Good afternoon. Welcome to the Bloomington Rotary Club's weekly celebration on service. I'm Steve Wicks, and I'm honored to serve as your president this year. Please silence your electronic devices. At the center of each table is a thank you note. Those arrived in the mail yesterday. I think we have a packet with about 25 of them. No return address. I think it's a school class somewhere in the area. Lots of thanking us for supplies, so I assume it's something to do with Teachers Warehouse, but I got a real kick out of seeing those. So last week during the Mystery Rotarian, I mentioned club member Bill Murphy's family relation to the Wright brothers. On this day in history, September 9th, 1908, Orville Wright made the first flight lasting over one hour. He flew for 62 minutes and 15 seconds in Fort Myer, Virginia. And now Hank Myer will share his reflection. Hank Walter will share his reflection. Excuse me. Somehow I ended up with the guests and the reflection today. So I'm going to go out of order a little bit and want to welcome all our guests, both here and online. And as we recognize you, if you would stand up to be appreciated, that would be great. Ellen Strohman, Visiting Rotarian from Wisconsin is with us. Speaking of visiting Rotarians, Jeffrey Berger, Assistant District Governor from Evansville. A guest of Sandy Keller, Matt Molina, with two men in a truck. A guest of Joy Harder, Jean Schick. It wouldn't be a Rotary meeting without a guest of Jim Brights. Randy Saunders. Jemerson Ingenue from IU. And then we have three guests who are here with me. And that relates to what I'm going to speak about as well. Nikki Bell from the Student Involvement and Leadership Center in the IMU. Sonia Rogers from IU Public Art and Cultural Heritage. And Katie Chattin, also from IU Public Art and Cultural Heritage. You might, you might recognize, oh, I should, before I forget. Do we have any guests online? Yes. Yes, we have one guest. It's Haoxi Wing, that is a potential applying to be a Rotarian and is in the process. Great. Welcome, Halsey. You might have recognized Katie because a little over a year ago, with a little help from me, Katie presented to this group on the IMU Art Collection at Sally Gaskell's request. Though I might say yes to almost anything Sally asks of me, I'm always happy to talk about the art collection and I wanted to take today's reflection time to give you a brief update of some things with the collection since Katie and I last spoke to you. When I came here a decade ago, I believed that the art collection was one of the things that made the IMU special. Our collection brings art into the everyday life of the campus and exposes students, whether they come from rural Indiana, Gary in the region, or Delhi, or anywhere in the globe. It exposes them to art when they might never choose to set foot in the museum down the street. I like that the collection focuses on Indiana art, and I've been told that we may have the largest collection of Indiana art outside of the state museum. union board started the collection in the 1920s before this building was even built and it began with the purchase of several tc steels and purchases continued regularly until sometime in the 1970s and then for some reasons i can only speculate about regular regular purchases stopped under winston shindel who you all There were several new pieces purchased and several more that were accepted as gifts. And Winston also started the IMU Art Restoration Fund, which provides for the care and upkeep of the collection and has allowed us to reframe just about the whole collection with special plexiglass that best preserves the artwork. Many of you have been coming to the IMU for Rotary meetings for a decade or two or three or more. And you've probably noticed that the majority of our art was oil paintings of landscapes and portraits of old men. And since I'm rapidly approaching that description, I've got nothing against old men, but we don't always captivate the interest of today's college students. My son will attest to that. As you can imagine, budgets are tighter than ever these days, but we started a new IMU Art Fund a few years ago, and with the help of three small grants and a few donors, a couple of whom are in this room, we've been able to add 19 pieces to the collection the last few years, or we will when the last couple pieces arrive. All of the art has been selected by students, and the purchases have been organized by students on Union Board. They are picking art that speaks to them And as the campus population has grown more diverse in many ways, it's not a surprise that the new art reflects that. Our goal is to be able to add art to the collection every year. And can I say that if you would like to help us do that, just let me know. Three of the newest purchases are on display in the back of the room. Chroma by Jamie Locke is the large colorful circular piece. Wee by Amaya Mims is also large and colorful. It's the one with two hands clasping. One looks to me like a young child's hand and one an adult's. And then See Me by Amy Maycheck is the back of someone's head and torso. Looking at that always gets me thinking, is that a man or a woman? Who is that? How much do we actually just assume or fill in the blanks from just a little view of a person? But for one of our new pieces, we have the artist with us today. A few months ago, I'm sure you also remember when our own club member Caleb Poor presented on a public art project he had led in Bloomington. Caleb's public art has now extended to the IMU because the students picked out one of his works named Stroll for addition to the IMU collection. And Caleb has agreed to say a few words about it. Thank you, Hank. So I'll briefly tell you all about this piece. It's titled Strolled, and it comes from a series that I've been working on for a couple years called Between Us. And Between Us explores the themes of male bonding and male love, which often is hidden because of the social and safety risks there for showing it publicly. Strolled depicts a very small gesture, just holding someone's finger while you're on a walk together. And funnily enough, I've done that a few times in the union. So it feels like it's the right place for it to live. I really couldn't think of a better piece for them to select. And I'm very grateful to have my work on display. And it's very meaningful to me as an IU alumni and also my familial connection through Winston. So thank you very much. And Steve, I'll turn it back over to you. Thank you, Hank, and congratulations, Caleb. Rotary birthdays, we have a few to celebrate. Tomorrow, the 10th, Jimmy Torrey. The 11th, Vivian Bridges. Alann Barker and Betsy Trotsky on the 12th. And then also on the 12th, we have birthday for our oldest active club member, I think, Wendell St. John. We have no rotary anniversaries to celebrate this week. Announcements. So as many of you know, we are co-sponsoring the IU Law School's Constitution Day Luncheon program on Wednesday, September 17, separate event from our normal weekly meeting on the 16th, which we'll have upstairs in the Georgian room. So our obligation as a sponsor for the law school event, we need to show up, we need to eat pizza, and we need to enjoy the program. And it's free. What isn't free is that you'll have to pay for parking in the Henderson Street garage, which is only a block away. Or you can try to find something on the street. We have a huge club members who have a driver driver can drop you off on the north side of the building And then you can get down the hall up an elevator and down another hall to the meeting room So far 34 attendees have registered most of them are members of our club If you haven't yet registered and you'd like to attend see me after the meeting or send me an email and I'll tell you how to register IU Rotorack Club has invited members of our club to join them for their meeting tonight, September 9th at 7 p.m. in Woodburn Hall. Peace Building Committee had scheduled a meeting for after this meeting. It's been delayed one week. Jonas Chang, who isn't here today, has volunteered to coordinate our club's involvement in the October 4th Hoosiers Outrun Cancer Event. And so I'm really happy Jonas is one of our newer members and very happy that he stepped up to coordinate that for us. I will be out of town starting tomorrow through next Tuesday. Be available much of the time by email and phone. Might be a little bit slower than usual to respond. Our president-elect Sam Udak sitting over there will run the meeting. And we still need a volunteer to introduce guests next week. Spirit of September being Rotary Literacy Month, Constellation's stage and screen needs volunteers to read scripts. They are down to 17 readers, and they'd like to have over 30. Susan Jones, the literary manager at Constellation, is the person to contact. And also club member Diana Hoffman, who's sitting right there, can also provide details. Several club members have recently battled COVID, it's back. So just please be careful and be cautious. Sign-up sheet is out for the next quarter. Ocnof Dis, Rotary Second Quarter sign-ups to do things like greet guests, volunteer. So please sign up if you haven't done so already. Last week, I mentioned that our technical assistant Tyler is job hunting. And then we talked afterwards, and some members talked to him. We didn't communicate what it is that he does, so I'll just give you a little bit of background of Tyler. Past May, Tyler completed two master's degrees, master of music and French horn, and an MA in arts administration from the O'Neill School. While a student at Jacobs, Tyler spent a year as assistant coordinator for the school's pre-college and extension program, known as Jacobs Academy. He also served as Professor Dale Clevenger's graduate assistant, served as co-chair of the school's student representative committee, a role that include full voting positions on the school's faculty council, as well as the academic fairness and administrative review committees. Tyler's currently looking for work in the nonprofit sector, preferably arts related, or higher education with the eventual goal of working for IU, either at Jacobs or in a campus level office. He's particularly interested in positions related to fundraising, operations, event management, academic advising, or as an administrative executive assistant. However, given the current job market, he is open to anything that will help him fill out his resume with transferable skills. I can tell you from a club standpoint, Tyler is quietly competent, and he does a great job for us, and I think he would do a good job for his next employer. So keep Tyler in mind. So now it's time for the Mystery Rotarium. Tyler so enjoyed the last segment that he was kind of lost focus. OK. So Monroe County native, this Rotarian earned an IUBA in English, studio art, and art history before going to work for the IU credit union. You know the answer? Put up your hand. OK. If you're online, electronically put up your hand, but don't shout anything out. OK. Next clue, a Paul Harris fellow, this Rotarian has served our club in various roles, including treasurer and point person for the annual future cast. If you know, put up your hand. Third clue, this Rotarian was just named interim director for the IU Center for Rural Engagement. Yeah, we have a whole lot more. And it's Kyla Cox-Dekard. So Kyla is one of several members whose spouse is also a club member. Kyla and Trent occasionally bring their daughter Lucy to club meetings. It's always a welcome addition. has been very active in the community, recently serving as President, Treasurer of the Community Kitchen of Monroe County, Board Member of the Community Foundation, and President of the City of Bloomington Board of Public Works. So thank you, Kyla. So I think I saw Diana Hoffman and Jim Cachu put up their hands at the same time. Did you both get it right? OK, excellent. And did anyone get it online? Maybe they've tuned out. Rotary International, this is Basic Education and Literacy Month. Tyler's going to cue up a short video for us. Education is a bridge to opportunity. That's why Rotary remains committed to ensuring inclusive, quality education for all. From cutting dropout rates, to supporting literacy programs, to empowering teachers, Rotary's initiatives build bright futures and create lasting change. Learn more, find your cause, and take action at Rotary.org. And we have a minute or two for happy dollars. Let's start online. Do we have anyone who's happy about anything today? If anybody wants to do happy dollars, go ahead and unmute yourself. I have 10 happy dollars, actually 20 happy dollars because I visited with Charlotte and she is looking good, sounding good, and so excited to see her doing well. I'm giving $20 in honor of my husband. You mentioned earlier about this being an anniversary relating to the Ripeweathers. And he has completed building a plane, a four passenger plane, has completed all his flying restrictions and can take anybody anywhere. So it was a very, very long process. Really proud of him. Yes. Um, I'd like to, uh, give $30 happy dollars because happily I have been at IU working at IU for 30 years. Uh, 20 bucks for it's been a while and had a lot happen since turned 40 10th wedding anniversary trip to Africa and seven year old. Now I was president when he was Brand new. So seven years now. So glad to be back. OK. Art Omec will introduce our speaker today. need to get to the mic. I grew up with a father who was hard of hearing, so I could project my voice through this room without a mic. I would like to extend a heartfelt rotary welcome to Lola Nicholson, the CEO and owner of Raptors Rise Rehabilitation. Lola retired from a career as an officer in law enforcement in 2020. Law enforcement. Lola, did you write me a speeding ticket in Bedford a few years ago? That wasn't you? OK. Where was I? Hadn't retired, she wanted to continue to serve her community. Helping animals in need has always been her passion. Therefore, operating a rehabilitation center was a perfect fit. After four years of being an apprentice at another rehabilitation center, Lola decided to open her own facility in Lawrence County. Here, they are today averaging 125 birds yearly, with an amazing release rate of 80 to 85%. They are extremely proud of the fine work they do, and all of her funding is purely by donations. Please welcome Lola Richardson. Hello, and thank you for having us today. I brought my husband, Rick, and he is going to be my Van of White today, and he's going to be showing the birds to you. He doesn't actually call himself my husband anymore. He calls himself my wingman. He is a dad and you can tell it. So like Art said, we have opened our own facility and we've done pretty well, averaging 125 birds a year. And our release rate is phenomenal. It doesn't look like it's gonna be quite as phenomenal this year. We've had really a rough late summer and early fall we've lost a lot of birds they sometimes we just can't save them they come in you know busted up so bad we can't fix them but we try very hard we have taken care of 97 birds thus this far in the year and we've brought a couple for you to see today we brought little ones because sometimes the big ones get pretty rowdy we have everything from a six ounce screech owl up to a 17 pound bald eagle. So right now we have 17 birds at the facility that we are caring for. Seven of those are our educational ambassadors and three of those are foster parents who when we get baby chicks of their species they will raise those babies and we are able to release them. So that is our goal is release. Our motto is rescue, rehabilitate, and release. So we try our hardest to get those birds back out there where they belong. I kind of lost my train of thought, sorry. We have these two birds today. One is an American Kestrel and the other is a Eastern Screech Owl. And these are both non-releasable birds. And that's the only kind of bird that we will keep as an education bird is something that's non-releasable. So that just means that it came to us as a wild bird and its injury or its story is preventing it from surviving in the wild. So we are licensed through the Federal Fish and Wildlife and through Indiana Department of Natural Resources. We have very strict rules that we have to follow on birds that we are allowed to present to the public and birds that are we allowed to keep as educational ambassadors. So this bird is Amelia, and she's an American Kestrel. She has a very unique story. She is six years old now. She was brought to us by a veterinarian, and she was a tiny little chick. Actually, she was still white and fuzzy when she came to us. So her story is that someone had found her in the wild and thought it would be very cool to keep her as a pet. Highly illegal in Indiana. Wild animals deserve to be wild animals. Domestic animals are for people. They kept her as a pet and they did some online research that said that she is a bird of prey. Bird of prey only eat meat. They will not eat birdseed or any grasses or anything like that. They only eat meat. So when they found that out, they went to the refrigerator to get her something to eat and they fed her hot dogs and bologna. Yes. So we all know how bad processed food is for humans. So now you can only imagine how bad it is for birds of prey or any wild animal. So they had her for a few weeks, and they continued to feed her hot dogs and baloney. And she began to decline. And she got sicker and sicker until they took her to a veterinarian because they thought she was going to pass. And the veterinarian, of course, said, do you have a license for this bird? And they said, no, we don't. So the veterinarian said, I'm sorry that we can't release this bird back to you. So then the veterinarian called us and said, we have this little kestrel chick. We don't really know if she's going to survive or not. But if you would like a chance to take her and get her healthy again, you're welcome to. And so of course, we jumped on that opportunity. We jump on every opportunity. So we did pick her up. And she was actually so sick that her feathers were just starting to come in. Her adult feathers were just starting to come in. But when you would touch her, her feathers would break off. So it took us about two complete full years with the proper diet to get her healthy again. So what had happened to this bird is when you are a baby bird, chickens and ducks and turkeys, all baby birds do this, they imprint. So whoever feeds you becomes your parent. So since this little bird had been fed by people almost her whole life, she imprinted, she doesn't know that she's a bird. She thinks she's a human or else she thinks we're all birds. I'm not sure which one, but anyhow, she has no communication skills with other birds because she didn't have bird parents to teach her. And she has no hunting skills. So it is illegal in Indiana to release a bird of prey that is imprinted because we know that they will not survive. So she is ours until she expires, which is probably about 25 years and she's six years old now. So our children are probably going to inherit this bird, which they're not happy about. but she lives in a big parrot cage in our house. So we have other imprinted birds that actually live outside, but they had some time to be outside before they were captured and put in the house, and they didn't get acclimated to being in the house. Basically, Amelia only knows that she's been in the house. So she stays in our house. She's allowed to free fly. We opened her cage door and she free flies around our house for about four or five hours a day. And when she's had enough, she'll fly back into her cage and put herself up. So the only problem with that, well, actually there's two problems with that. The first problem is, is she takes a bath every day in the dog's water bowl. The dog is not impressed at all. So we have that problem. And the other problem is she sometimes will perch on the curtain rods. And since she is still a wild animal, she does not have very good manners. So we do not have nice drapes at our house. We have washable drapes at our house. So in the wild, she is a fantastic bird to have around her property. And these birds are found all across the lower 48 states in the United States. But in the wild, she would have five babies every year, and she would be catching mice like crazy, five to six mice every single day. So here's something really cool to think about that we as humans just don't think about. One bass will cost a farmer $125 a year in waste because they ruin bags of feed and they eat the crops and they eat the corn. And so it costs a farmer $125 a year. Well, Amelia over there would eat six mice a day and her five children, would eat five or six mice a day. So just Amelia and her children would save a farmer $750 a year. That's a lot. And not only does it cost that farmer that much, but do you know who makes up that difference? We do. So birds of prey are very important to have around. So they also are important to have around because they keep the mice in check so we don't have them in our homes. They catch little snakes, which a lot of people are objective to. So they're very important birds. Now, unfortunately, all the birds in the United States are in decline. So we work very hard to get these kestrels back out there where they belong. We actually had 21 kestrel babies this year. So only two of them were siblings. The others were singles that had fallen out of the nest. They come to us as little chicks not able to fly yet. They just doodle around and fall out of the nest somehow. So they come to us. We have to hand feed them with tweezers. And then once they are big enough to feed themselves, We will offer them food and they'll eat on their own. Then we will place them outside in a big mew or a big pen with a foster parent. And then that foster parent will continue to raise that bird and teach it things like communication, bird behaviors like preening their feathers to keep them clean. And then the foster parent and help from us will teach the bird to hunt. And so once they're strong hunters, then we are able to release those back into the wild where they belong. So we got quite a few of them back out this year and it was a good thing. So Amelia weighs a big 10 ounces. She is a female and the male looks pretty much like her except where she's a little gray on the head. The male is blue and he has blue on his wings. They're stunning birds. They're actually from the falcon family. And they can actually hover like a hummingbird. And I'm sure everyone's heard of the peregrine falcon, the fastest animal on earth. Well, she's a cousin. So the peregrine can dive at 270 miles per hour. Amelia can dive at 200 miles an hour. Pretty impressive for such a little bird. OK, Rick, you want to get the other one out now? Thank you. So while he's doing that, About 90% of the birds that we treat are all human-related injuries. So very rarely do we actually get a sick bird. And if we do, we're usually not able to save it. So birds have to stay pretty healthy on their own. But we're happy to help them recover from human injuries. Car strikes are our number one reason we have birds, probably 65 or 70% of the birds we get are car strikes, and they'll come in with broken wings or broken legs or concussions. We usually do pretty well with getting those guys back out. I'm trying to think of what else. We are, like Art said, we are a nonprofit. We don't get any help from the government. They bring us birds, but they don't help us pay for them, which is okay. So far this year, we have used about $15,000 in mice. We purchase our mice from a company in Indianapolis that ships them in from China for zoos and things like that. And that's the main diet for most of our birds, our mice. The bigger birds like the eagles and the great horned owls, they'll eat rats. We do butcher venison and feed a lot of venison because we try to keep their diets as natural as we can. It's just for the overall health of them. So this is Sparky. Sparky is an Eastern screech owl. Sparky is full grown. We do not know how old Sparky is. Sparky is a female. We do know that. But Sparky has a very unique story too. Sparky came to us about three weeks ago with both of her eyes swollen shut and unable to fly. So the person that called us to help take care of Sparky and brought a Sparky said, I just found her in the grass. I don't know what's happened to her. And when I got to examining her to try to help her, I thought, boy, this bird's got two infected eyes. This is so odd. I've had him with one, one infected eye before, but never two. So I got to thinking about it, and this little bird came from Medora, Indiana, which is down by the river, and it's all flat farmland, and they grow crops in those fields all the time. So I called the finder back, and I said, hey, any chance they've done any crop dusting around there? And maybe this bird got into some kind of chemical? And he said, no, I don't think so. He said, I don't recall it. And I said, OK. And I said, well. It would really help me if I knew what was going on with this bird because then I would know how to treat it. So I was going to treat it for eye infection with antibiotics and lots of cleaning. But the next day, that guy called me back and he said, I'm really embarrassed to tell you. And I said, what's going on? And he said, I was spraying an herbicide at my farm to kill some tall weeds. And this bird must have gotten into it. And I said, you know, it happens. It happens. We don't use herbicides at our farm, but it happens. Other people do. But that told me how to treat this little bird. So he didn't need antibiotics. He needed his eyes flushed and flushed and flushed. And then he needed some soothing ointment in his eyes because his eyes were burned. And it not only affected him in his eyes, it infected him neurologically. So that's why he couldn't fly. So she, she is starting to fly a little bit now and I'm not sure if she will be able to be released before winter because right now she is not a strong hunter, but she is starting to fly. So our hope is she will continue to get strong and the neurological problems will clear themselves up and we'll be able to, to release her back where she belongs. She probably has a family. Most of the birds of prey will mate for life. If they don't mate for life, they usually live in family units. So Sparky, being a female, probably has a family unit that includes some of her babies. So what happens when birds of prey have babies is they'll let them hang around in the same area with them until they nest the next year. And then they have new chicks. So before those eggs are hatched, the mom and the dad will push the older chicks out just a little farther away from the nest, which makes room for the new chicks so they can get up and learn to fly. So she weighs a big six ounces. She eats one mouse every day in captivity because she's not flying and we don't want to get her overweight or she'll have trouble flying. But in the wild she would eat two, maybe three mice every day. So she's another great bird to have around. And she too would have anywhere from three to five babies every year. So screech apps come into two different colors. This is the red morph and they have a gray morph which mimics tree bark just perfectly. So that's part of their camouflage. So right now at our facility, we have two bald eagles, one adult and one juvenile. We've got several red-tailed hawks. We have a barn owl. We have another screech owl that looks just like Sparky. And we have two great horned owls. One's an education bird and one is a foster parent. And we have a barred owl. And he's a little male. And he raised 15 chicks this year on his own without a female to help. And every day when I would bring another bird to that poor fella, you could just see his face and he would be like, oh, lady, what are you doing to me? But he successfully raised all 15 of them. They were great hunters, and we've been able to release every one of those. So we don't have any babies left from this season. We were able to release all of those. And we're just really happy that we can do that. We've actually been taking in some birds from another facility that does not have the foster parents, and they pay us to take care of their babies. So they pay for the food so it doesn't come out of our budget. So that works really well. There's not a whole lot of us rehabbers, not for birds of prey. I know here in Bloomington, you've got a couple of good rehab facilities, pipsqueakery and wild care that do mammals, but they don't do birds of prey. So they send their birds of prey to us, which we're happy to help. And we collaborate pretty good together, and we're all glad to help each other. So is it time for questions and answers? Art? Yes, yes. So Art has a friend, a mutual friend with us, and his name is Frank Meadows, and he found a juvenile bald eagle in his mother's driveway. And it had been struck by a car, and it had an injury, a coracoid, which is like our Shoulder bone here, breast bone, collarbone. That's what I'm thinking, collarbone. Birds probably don't have collarbones. They have coracoids. But anyhow, it was injured and it had a concussion and we were able to take it and heal it. And then we were able to take it back to the farm where it was found and release it. I've got an idea for you. Say you need it for rats. Why not call the mayor of New York or something? I mean, They've got a lot of them. They're probably getting them for free. Yes, ma'am. Come get one from here. Have you noticed any changes in bird health over the years related maybe to climate or urban development? Not so much bird health, but bird behaviors. So we're finding some birds are having two clutches of chicks where they used to only have one. Sometimes they're nesting, not in their normal time period. Virge of prey only nest in the spring. So we've been taught, but now sometimes we're finding, we're finding they'll nest again in the fall. And used to there was specific times, like we knew eagles were going to be born in February. Now sometimes they're born in March. or April. So yeah, bird behaviors are really starting to change and their migration pattern is changing as well. The red-tailed hawks, the females will travel from Indiana. They will travel to South America. The males stay here and protect the territory, but now we're finding that more of the females are staying too. So that's climate change because of the weather and the temperatures. Yeah. Are your mice dead or alive? And are they white mice or like laboratory mice or wild mice? Good question. So the mice we buy are frozen. So we have to follow them to feed and the same thing with the rats and they are all white. So when we are feeding birds that are not babies, we feed them white mice. The babies we feed colored mice. And the reason we do that is so then when we release them, they're not out in the field looking for white mice. They're looking for natural colored mice. So those colored mice we raise ourselves, but it's really hard to keep up with it. They eat so many. And a lot of people have said to us, well, wouldn't it save you a lot of money if you didn't have to buy mice? Yes. I cannot keep up with raising that many. When you think about, well, even Millie, she eats two mice a day. And Sparky eats one mouse a day. But like the owls, a great horned owl eats seven or eight if it doesn't eat a rat. And a barn owl eats five every day. And our red-shoulder hawk, she eats five every day. So it just takes a lot. I can't keep up with it. But, yeah, good question. Hey, thanks for being with us today. I'm curious how did you get into this? How did you learn it? How did you get trained, you know, and all? It's clearly an intensive skill, so I'm curious how that happened for you. Okay. I was in law enforcement, but I was the animal control officer. So I only dealt with animals and I did not write artist speeding ticket. But one day I got a call that there was a red-tailed hawk that had been struck by a car and it was in the highway and it was still alive. So I went and picked it up and then I was like, what do I do now? And it's not something that's readily available, puppies and kittens. Piece of cake. But what am I going to do with this red tail hawk? So I did some research and I found that there was a rehabilitation center in Brown County. And so I took that bird over there and I just simply fell in love with these birds of prey. They're so intelligent and they're just fun. So I started volunteering for them and I volunteered for four years and apprenticed at the same time. And I was doing a lot of transport. So they'd get a call of a bird that was down that needed transport to the facility. So I was doing that. And then I just decided, you know, we could use, we're from Lawrence County. So I said, we could just use one in Lawrence County. So that was 10 years ago. And in that 10 years, there was a state facility called Hardy Lake down towards Scottsburg. And so they took care of a lot of those birds down there, but they have since closed their facility. And so now we are the closest one. from the Ohio River to Lawrence County. So that's a lot of transporting. So my husband Rick and I, we don't do this on our own. We have volunteers that help. We have a girl from college that's apprenticing with us. She's from Jasper, and she's wanting to open her facility. So two years from now, and when she gets her apprenticeship done, which is a requirement, then maybe she'll be able to open her facility too. So yeah, good question. How much of a problem do you have with birds coming in that have been poisoned by people poisoning the mice? It happens. It happens. I don't know if everybody knows this or not, but when you put rat poison out or mouse poison out, and the mouse eats it, but he doesn't die immediately, and he crawls back outside, and then an owl swoops down and gets him and eats him, the owl will die as well. they've ate something that is poison, there's no saving them. Once we figure out what's going on with them, we'll euthanize them immediately because it's horrible. Yeah. So, yeah, get an owl. Don't get it, don't poison. Thank you so much for your service and for what you're doing for all the birds and thanks for bringing those birds in for us to look at up close. I was wondering how do you figure out how to release and where to release the birds? And are you looking for places to release the birds? We are always looking for places to release the bird. Our goal is to always take the bird back where it came from because they do live in family units. There are some exceptions that we don't take them back. This year we had three baby hawks come in. Two of those came from a nest right next to the interstate. and their parent had been hit by a car and killed, so we did not release those birds there. The other one came from a city park in Terre Haute, and the park was overran with feral cats. I said, no. So we do release a few at our farm. We don't want to overload it. So yes, we're always looking for properties to release safe properties. We work a lot with Sycamore Land Trust because their properties are protected and good and safe. And so we do release a lot there as well. Thank you. So how big is your farm? And then also, do you use veterinary services? We do. Our farm is 30 acres. It used to have cattle and horses and things on it. Since we're older, we don't do that anymore. The kids have grown up and moved away, so we don't have to do horses anymore. And what was the other part? Oh, the veterinarian. We use a veterinarian in Franklin, Indiana. So it's pretty good drive. It's about an hour and 45 minutes from where we're located. We are required by Department of Fish and Wildlife to use a veterinarian who is licensed to to treat wildlife. Right now, I only know two in the state. One's in Franklin, the other one is in Evansville, and he is not taking any patients because he's ready to retire. So yeah, it's a problem. Thank you so much for this presentation. I grew up in a house where we had seven birds flying around at all times, dogs and cats. And I'm wondering, I've already fallen in love with these two birds. Isn't it just heartbreaking for you both to release them? It can be bittersweet. It can be bittersweet. I try not to get attached to them, but some of them that we keep for a long time to get healed. you get attached to them. You really do. And what people don't realize, and I never realized it either, is every bird has its individual personality. So you'll get nice birds, you'll get hateful old ladies, you'll get, you know, just some birds that will not room with other birds. They're just like, no, you know, This is my place. Find somebody else to put this bird with. But yeah, all different personalities. So it is really fun. We were talking about the eagle that Frank brought us. He was very talkative. I can talk to that bird and he would grunt and growl and make noises back at me. Like, just like he knew what I was saying. It was, it was really fun. So, and you know, when you get a really super nice bird, you can spend a little bit of time with it without getting it too tame because that's another problem that we have. If we get them where they're not afraid of humans and then we release them, then it could be a problem. So you can be at the city park having a picnic with your fried chicken and a red-tailed hawk land in the middle of your table and take your chicken away from them. So we have to be careful what we do, but it's really hard. And especially the babies when they come in all white and fuzzy and they're missing their mom and they'll cuddle up with you. we can only do that for about two or three days, and then we have to put them back and let them be wild animals. Thank you again for being with us today. I'm intrigued with the concept of fostering and imprinting. They're just interesting to me, but how do you avoid from imprinting the bird so they'll be able to be released? Is there a method? There's really not a method. You'll see pictures sometimes of people in zoos with puppets feeding the birds and that kind of thing. We've not had to do that. We just, and this is really hard for the volunteers. It's really hard for me too, but it's really hard for the volunteers to help us. Those birds are adorable when they're babies, but we coochie coo them for about two or three days and then we leave them alone and we just let them be wild. And so then when we're feeding, we don't talk to them. We don't, stroke their little heads, we don't do any of that, and then we'll put them where they belong and we'll just walk off and leave them. That's the only thing that we can do. Ten years, we've never imprinted a bird, so it's working. The fostering, it's amazing. It is amazing because if we did not have those fosters, there's a chance that those birds could imprint. But more importantly, they teach them communication. So let's say the great horned owls, for example, if we raise one, and we can, we can raise them, we can teach them to hunt, flying comes naturally, and we can release them. But we're doing the birds an injustice if we don't teach them their communication skills, because if it's wild and it hears another great horned owl say, oh my goodness, there's a bobcat coming, be careful, that bird we released doesn't know what that means. So that's an injustice. So by raising them with an adult foster parent, that foster parent can teach them those communication skills that they need and simple things like preening. I mean, birds of prey will bathe every day. They're incredibly clean. And then they'll, they'll take those beaks and they'll stroke their feathers. And that's called preening. It's just cleaning the feathers and keeping their feathers in good shape. We as humans can't teach them to do that. So there again, you're releasing a bird and you're handicapping it by not teaching it all the things it needs to survive. Falcons innate to Indiana? I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. Falcons innate to Indiana? Falcons are found across the United States. We don't get a lot of Falcons. Um, the Kestrels we get a lot where they are in the Falcon family, but like the Paragon Falcons, we've only had one in 10 years. Um, the Merlins are Falcons. We've only had two or three of those. So yeah, we don't know. We just don't get very many of those. Now the Paragon Falcons, um, there was only 16 known nests in the whole state of Indiana. So we had a baby come in this year. It's the first one in 10 years, and we were able to patch it up and send it back, and we only had to have it a couple of days. It was when the weather was like over 100 degrees, and it had stood on a metal rod on a tower, and it burned the bottom of its feet. So then it was stuck on the ground. It couldn't learn to fly or anything. So we healed its feet up really quick. And we just had it a few days. And we took it back to where its parents were. And its parents came back and claimed it and finished raising it and teaching it to hunt. Yeah, it was good. It was really good. I'm curious. When you got a wild one in and you go to feed it like a rat or mouse, since they're dead or they're frozen, do you have to kind of move it so it looks like it's a live prey or something? We'll just offer it to them first, just lay it in the cage with them. And if they don't eat, eventually we will have to force feed them to get them going again. Sometimes when they have a head injury, like a concussion, it just kind of knocks them silly and they forget to eat. So once we start feeding them again, then they'll pick up and continue on. If you find an injured prey, bird of prey, how do you handle it to bring it to you? Actually, it's very easy. People, people really think it's hard, but it's really not. Um, all birds of prey can bite. They rarely do, but it's those talons on those feet that will get you. So we just tell people, put a pair of heavy gloves on, take a towel or a blanket and just throw it over the bird. and just scoop it up and put it in a cardboard box or a tote or a dog crate and bring it to us. We have lots and lots of older people do it, but then sometimes we'll get a young man and he'll say, huh, I'm not touching that thing. Sometimes I have to shame them into it. I was like, you know, I had an 80 year old lady last week. And so they'll go, okay. And then they'll catch it and bring it to us. How do you tell that, um, A bird is going to be a good candidate to be a foster parent. We just work with it and it's based on their personality and it's based on their nature. Some of the falcons and some of the hawks are just so nervous and high strung that it's just not a good fit. There's a card on your table with our Facebook on the bottom of it. We do have a Facebook page. It belongs to the birds. Any birds that come in, we will post their picture and their treatment and hopefully their release. And it also lists all of the fundraising events that we do. So we've got a really cool stained glass project coming up. I think it's the 20th of September. But yeah, it's on our page. And we do lots and lots of fundraising. So we will hang around after the meeting if you guys have more questions or you want to see the birds up close. But thank you so very much for having us. Thank you. Thank you. I'm so happy you're able to release so many birds back into the wild. And honor your talk, the donation we made this quarter to off-night productions. Yesterday headline, I think close to 49,000 students, a new record here at the IU Bloomington campus. I think I saw all 49,000 driving in today. So just remember for parking, besides the two IMU parking lots, you can park in the Atwater or Henderson Street garages. If you want more information about that, please ask. I'd like to thank our volunteers for today's program, Michael Shermas. And I want to single out Michael. He, during the session when the birds were being taken around, Michael followed so that the people on Zoom could see the birds. So thank you, Michael. Hank Walter, Art Onick, Leslie Katsenko, Glenda Murray, Jeff Richardson, Sarah Loughlin, Judy Schroeder. Our next meeting will be on September 16th in the Georgian Room. Katarina Koch will be speaking to us about the Lotus Festival. I'll be traveling that day, so Sam Udak will lead our efforts. And Tyler, if you could please share the graphic for the four-way test. And please stand if you're able and join me. of the things we think, say, or do. First, is it the truth? Second, is it fair to all concerned? Third, will it build goodwill and better friendships? Fourth, will it be beneficial to all concerned? And fifth, is it fun?