WEBVTT 00:00:01.794 --> 00:00:08.867 - Good afternoon. Welcome to the Bloomington Rotary Club's week of celebration of service. I'm Steve Wicks. 00:00:08.867 --> 00:00:15.806 - I'm honored to serve as your president this year. Thank you for fighting parking today. Lots of us made 00:00:15.806 --> 00:00:22.611 - it. Few people are still coming in, so thanks for your patience there. Please silence your electronic 00:00:22.611 --> 00:00:29.150 - devices. On this day in history, June 2nd, 1924, President Calvin Coolidge signed the Snyder Act. 00:00:29.314 --> 00:00:36.941 - also known as the Indian Citizenship Act, declaring all Native Americans as U.S. citizens. However, 00:00:36.941 --> 00:00:44.796 - the legislation did not include voting rights, and it would be decades before all 50 states guaranteed 00:00:44.796 --> 00:00:50.974 - Native Americans the right to vote. Hank Walter will share his reflection today. 00:01:08.738 --> 00:01:19.668 - So, every once in a while, the last two or three years, I've had the opportunity to stand up and talk 00:01:19.668 --> 00:01:30.597 - a little bit about the art in the Union, which I know some of you are very fond of. And we have a new 00:01:30.597 --> 00:01:36.062 - piece coming, which I have very little to do with. 00:01:36.354 --> 00:01:44.047 - Dr. Bill Yarbers, who some of you may know, who has spearheaded this initiative. You can see Bill is 00:01:44.047 --> 00:01:51.739 - a very well-regarded scientist in his field. Not only is he senior director, but he's the founder of 00:01:51.739 --> 00:02:00.041 - the Rural Center for AIDS and STD Prevention at IU. And if you spend much time in the Union or the Starbucks 00:02:00.041 --> 00:02:05.982 - on Indiana Avenue, you will run into Bill Yarber. Yep, very friendly, chatty. 00:02:06.082 --> 00:02:15.625 - man. But if you'll allow me to kind of meander to the point here, it really has to do with Ryan White, 00:02:15.625 --> 00:02:24.889 - who many of you are probably who I'm sure are familiar with. But just to do a brief recap, I had to 00:02:24.889 --> 00:02:31.838 - had to refresh my memory on some pieces of this. Ryan was born in Indiana, 00:02:31.938 --> 00:02:40.566 - childhood in much of it in Kokomo, but was born with hemophilia and contracted AIDS through a contaminated 00:02:40.566 --> 00:02:48.630 - blood because he was a hemophiliac and had to get transfusions. And as many of you remember, it was 00:02:48.630 --> 00:02:57.259 - a while before science figured out exactly how AIDS was contracted and passed. And so people often thought 00:02:57.259 --> 00:03:01.694 - that it could be, maybe it could be contracted through 00:03:02.818 --> 00:03:11.137 - through the air, for instance. They just didn't know. And because it seemed like—well, and then you 00:03:11.137 --> 00:03:19.293 - would—you would throw into the fact that a number of the people who got it early on were gay, and 00:03:19.293 --> 00:03:27.448 - so you had some homophobia going in there as well, as well as drug users. And so there was a lot of 00:03:27.448 --> 00:03:31.934 - what I might call victim blaming going on at the time. 00:03:32.130 --> 00:03:39.371 - Ryan was banned from school in Kokomo and, in fact, harassed to the level where, in fact, there were 00:03:39.371 --> 00:03:46.110 - gunshots fired through his family home just trying to discourage them from being even around. 00:03:47.138 --> 00:03:55.638 - But they moved to Cicero, Indiana, where both the principal of the school and the student council president 00:03:55.638 --> 00:04:03.587 - became a good friend of his, really did a good job before he got to school, educating everyone about 00:04:03.587 --> 00:04:11.614 - that. And he was welcomed there. Ryan also then became sort of a national spokesperson and a face put 00:04:11.614 --> 00:04:14.526 - to the AIDS epidemic. The Ryan White 00:04:14.882 --> 00:04:23.367 - Comprehensive AIDS Resource Emergency Act really was one of those bipartisan things that we don't see 00:04:23.367 --> 00:04:31.686 - very often these days, but signed by both President Bush's and reauthorization's Clinton and Obama, 00:04:31.686 --> 00:04:39.422 - passed by congresses that were majority either or both sides of the political spectrum, etc. 00:04:41.122 --> 00:04:48.130 - And Ryan also has some connections to IU. In fact, it was his intention to come here to go to college. 00:04:48.130 --> 00:04:54.798 - Unfortunately, he passed away during his senior year of high school, in April of his senior year. 00:04:54.798 --> 00:05:01.806 - His friend, Jill Stewart, that student council president who played a role in educating the school and 00:05:01.806 --> 00:05:08.677 - other students about AIDS and Ryan's condition, came here and actually started the IU Dance Marathon 00:05:08.677 --> 00:05:09.630 - in his honor. 00:05:09.762 --> 00:05:17.503 - which has raised millions for Riley Children's Hospital over the years. It raises a few million every 00:05:17.503 --> 00:05:25.244 - year these days. And it's still—his name is still associated with it, as is at Riley the Ryan White 00:05:25.244 --> 00:05:32.606 - Center for Infectious Disease and Research. The IU Rural Center for AIDS and STD Prevention that 00:05:33.282 --> 00:05:41.848 - Bill Yarber founded and gives out a Ryan White Award every year. You may be familiar with some of the 00:05:41.848 --> 00:05:50.329 - award winners by name. A number of the former Surgeon Generals, David Satcher, Everett Koop, as well 00:05:50.329 --> 00:05:59.147 - as Anthony Fauci, Greg Louganis have all received the award and spoken at the dinner. And so Bill Yarber 00:05:59.147 --> 00:06:01.246 - came up with the idea of 00:06:02.274 --> 00:06:11.265 - Ryan White could never come to IU, but to an extent, let's bring him as we can. And so he developed 00:06:11.265 --> 00:06:20.705 - this and worked with a faculty member in the Eskenazi School of Art and Design to develop this sculpture 00:06:20.705 --> 00:06:27.358 - or this bust of Ryan. It's called Keep Going because that was part of his 00:06:27.554 --> 00:06:34.729 - mantra, so to speak, and his mother still talks about that. And so there's actually, it hopefully looks 00:06:34.729 --> 00:06:42.180 - a little bit like he's moving, like there's some sense of motion and action to it. There'll be an unveiling 00:06:42.180 --> 00:06:49.285 - next Wednesday, a week from tomorrow in Alumni Hall, if you're interested, from 2.45 to 4 o'clock. And 00:06:49.285 --> 00:06:51.838 - then it will go to the South Lounge. 00:06:52.770 --> 00:07:02.088 - where it will be housed. We've got a few other sculptures of famous people, all with connections to 00:07:02.088 --> 00:07:11.686 - IU, Wendell Wilkie, McNutt are a couple of them. A former Civil War Confederate prison camp commandant 00:07:11.686 --> 00:07:21.470 - who went on to be the first president of some little school up in West Lafayette, some things like that. 00:07:22.754 --> 00:07:29.209 - So one of the interesting things and you can see I think on that in the photo one of the interesting 00:07:29.209 --> 00:07:35.599 - things about the sculpture will be not only is it kind of hang off one end to create hopefully that 00:07:35.599 --> 00:07:42.054 - sense of motion and activity but they wanted to the sculptor wanted to also think about how could we 00:07:42.054 --> 00:07:47.678 - make it interactive and so they'll be in the in the pedestal that it sits on they'll be 00:07:48.194 --> 00:07:55.458 - some explanation of IU Dance Marathon working with Union Board will have some cards there that students 00:07:55.458 --> 00:08:02.583 - can write notes on. How do you keep going? How do you with advice or other comments for students? How 00:08:02.583 --> 00:08:09.847 - do you keep going through challenging academic times or other times like that? And then I UDM will kind 00:08:09.847 --> 00:08:16.832 - of collect those periodically and post them on Instagram on a special account for that. So I really 00:08:16.832 --> 00:08:17.950 - like the way of 00:08:19.042 --> 00:08:26.153 - and it was IUDM and Union Board who came up with how do we do this, but like the way of trying to get 00:08:26.153 --> 00:08:33.753 - that message and keep it as more than just a sculpture that you walk by, but a way for it to be interactive. 00:08:33.753 --> 00:08:40.446 - So just wanted to share that info with you. If you have any questions or comments, let me know. 00:08:46.018 --> 00:08:54.609 - Thank you, Hank. You said the unveiling was this Wednesday, is that correct? Yep. A week from tomorrow. 00:08:54.609 --> 00:09:03.448 - Okay, excellent. Markay Winston will share or rather introduce our guests today. Good afternoon, everyone. 00:09:03.448 --> 00:09:10.718 - It's great to see you all. It's a beautiful, beautiful summer day, beginning of summer. 00:09:10.978 --> 00:09:22.619 - So we have four guests that we'd like to recognize today. Zoe Roman is the guest of Leslie Kutsenko. 00:09:22.619 --> 00:09:34.260 - Welcome. Ed Ryan is the guest of Steve Engel. Hello, Ed. Carolyn Play is the guest of Andrea Murray. 00:09:34.260 --> 00:09:40.830 - Hello, Carolyn. And last but not least, Connie Griffith. 00:09:41.282 --> 00:09:57.528 - is the guest of Hank Walter. Welcome. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Dr. Winston. Peggy, 00:09:57.528 --> 00:10:10.462 - do we have any online guests? Peggy's muted. Peggy, do we have any online guests? 00:10:14.562 --> 00:10:22.851 - I don't believe so. Thank you. Thank you very much. Guests, if you'd like to learn anything about Rotary, 00:10:22.851 --> 00:10:30.672 - please ask a Rotarian at your table. Number of birthdays to celebrate. Jim Bright has a birthday on 00:10:30.672 --> 00:10:38.492 - the 5th of June. Jeff McKim on the 11th of June. Steve Engel, a birthday on the 11th of June. Maria 00:10:38.492 --> 00:10:43.966 - Carrasquillo on the 12th of June. And Liz Fiddle on the 14th of June. 00:10:45.186 --> 00:10:52.985 - We have four anniversary days to observe. A week ago, Sally Gaskell asked me when her anniversary was. 00:10:52.985 --> 00:11:00.783 - She thought it was coming up. Um, but she's listed in, in the program as June 3rd and she will observe 00:11:00.783 --> 00:11:08.582 - 23 years with the club and 27 years overall as a Rotarian. Uh, on the 9th, Raj Shadawi, six years with 00:11:08.582 --> 00:11:11.838 - our club, eight years total as a Rotarian. 00:11:11.970 --> 00:11:25.371 - On the 11th, Cindy Brumbarger, two years, and on the 13th, Jim Sims, seven years. Tyler, will you go 00:11:25.371 --> 00:11:34.526 - ahead and put up my PowerPoint? Okay, number of announcements today. 00:11:34.722 --> 00:11:40.325 - I covered this last week. I'll just touch on it this week. Remember, if you're here at the meeting, 00:11:40.325 --> 00:11:45.984 - make sure you initial that you're here. And then if you're not eating, go ahead and circle your name 00:11:45.984 --> 00:11:51.587 - or your number. We use this document, one, to keep track of attendance long term. It's also what we 00:11:51.587 --> 00:11:57.302 - use. We're on the honor system with IU Dining. So it's what we use to make sure that we pay them what 00:11:57.302 --> 00:11:58.142 - we should pay. 00:11:59.682 --> 00:12:07.031 - A reminder, I put out an email about this a week ago. Total club dues will increase $2.25 effective 00:12:07.031 --> 00:12:14.747 - July 1st. We're still accepting applications for the club executive assistant position. We have a number 00:12:14.747 --> 00:12:22.390 - received already. We hope to begin interviews in the coming week. Still have a few weekly meeting rolls 00:12:22.390 --> 00:12:27.902 - to fill during the month of June. The link is in the roundabout each week. 00:12:28.386 --> 00:12:35.693 - And then the sign up for the next quarter will be coming out probably later this week. And 00:12:35.693 --> 00:12:43.964 - then President-elect Tracy busy lining up committee chairs. You can see some of the chairs she's lined 00:12:43.964 --> 00:12:51.994 - up for next year. I'm sorry, that was a bad joke. However, we do need a roundabout co-chair to work 00:12:51.994 --> 00:12:53.118 - with Marilyn. 00:12:53.314 --> 00:12:59.578 - Person would be responsible for editing the roundabout during some weeks of the year. So if 00:12:59.578 --> 00:13:06.659 - you're interested, talk to Marilyn to get a feel for what the job entails or talk to Tracy. Celebration 00:13:06.659 --> 00:13:13.673 - of service. So we did another project with Meals on Wheels on Friday, some meal kit preparation. Diana 00:13:13.673 --> 00:13:20.958 - Hoffman organized it again and Jim Harvey, Sarah Laughlin and Winston Schindel put together the meal kits. 00:13:21.506 --> 00:13:28.723 - And while I'm on Meals on Wheels, they're looking for lots of volunteers, particularly drivers. I think 00:13:28.723 --> 00:13:36.009 - Diana put out flyers on each table. If you have any questions, Diana is sitting at that table back there 00:13:36.009 --> 00:13:43.017 - and she can answer them. Okay, now we'll touch upon next week. So next week is one of the weeks when 00:13:43.017 --> 00:13:48.638 - the union is booked with other groups. So we find another place for our meeting. 00:13:49.154 --> 00:13:57.054 - And we will be meeting at the Neal Marshall Black Culture Center on 275 North Eagleson Avenue. 1145 00:13:57.054 --> 00:14:04.955 - will serve lunch. Program begins at noon. There will not be a Zoom next week. And then we'll have a 00:14:04.955 --> 00:14:11.038 - shortened program and then we'll have a tour at 1230 and we'll be done at 1. 00:14:11.170 --> 00:14:16.998 - There'll be quite a bit of walking throughout, we'll go throughout the building, but there will be no 00:14:16.998 --> 00:14:22.712 - stairs. We'll use the elevator to get up and down. So if you're limited mobility, ask me questions, 00:14:22.712 --> 00:14:28.655 - but I think you'll be able to join us. Parking, it's always a popular subject. So there's a really nice 00:14:28.655 --> 00:14:34.426 - parking area on the northeast side of the Neil Marshall building at Eagleson and Seventh. And you go 00:14:34.426 --> 00:14:40.140 - in and you go past the theater entrance and there's a smaller elevator and you go down one floor to 00:14:40.140 --> 00:14:41.054 - the Grand Hall. 00:14:41.474 --> 00:14:47.796 - You should be able to park for free at the IMU lot. However, next week is mini-university, so it might 00:14:47.796 --> 00:14:54.487 - be crowded. If you do that, walk past the south side of the auditorium, enter Neal Marshall at the southwest 00:14:54.487 --> 00:15:00.687 - door. You go down one floor to the Grand Hall. You can pay for parking at the IU East Garage. On the 00:15:00.687 --> 00:15:06.825 - upper deck, there's a designated area. It's Cross Eagleson from the Delta Gamma House. So you would 00:15:06.825 --> 00:15:10.078 - walk and enter Neal Marshall via the southeast door. 00:15:10.690 --> 00:15:18.394 - And for those of you who like to live dangerously, if you can get past the guard shack getting up towards 00:15:18.394 --> 00:15:25.806 - Showalter, you can possibly park along the south side of the auditorium. Your car may not be there at 00:15:25.806 --> 00:15:33.074 - the end of the gathering. But if you want to live dangerously, that's the way to go. Here is a very 00:15:33.074 --> 00:15:40.414 - crude map. You can see my scribbled NM. But it's really, it's probably a five minute walk from here. 00:15:40.866 --> 00:15:48.429 - Um, and the grand hall is on the south side of the building. And if you like a satellite view here is 00:15:48.429 --> 00:15:55.918 - the same with the satellite view down on the bottom, right? You can see the Henderson, the East, the 00:15:55.918 --> 00:16:01.182 - East garage, um, not Henderson where parking, I think it's $3 an hour. 00:16:04.162 --> 00:16:11.622 - Are there any questions about next week's meeting? I'll go ahead and take them there. If you have a 00:16:11.622 --> 00:16:19.157 - question, put up your hand. Or if you have a question online, let Peggy know. I'll try to repeat the 00:16:19.157 --> 00:16:26.766 - question and then answer it as best I can. Tim? The question is, is a meeting about the Neal Marshall 00:16:26.766 --> 00:16:32.958 - Center? And the answer is yes. Center Director Dr. Gloria Howell will be our host. 00:16:33.314 --> 00:16:43.533 - and she'll take about 15 minutes to provide us with some background information, and then Dr. Al and 00:16:43.533 --> 00:16:54.055 - her assistant will give us the tours. Show of hands, how many people think they might be at the meeting 00:16:54.055 --> 00:17:00.126 - next week? Okay. All right, excellent. Any other questions? 00:17:04.002 --> 00:17:12.172 - Okay, moving on, Beacon organizational member, their solidarity sleep outs coming up Friday, June 5th, 00:17:12.172 --> 00:17:19.628 - the Saturday, June 6th. They'd like you to go and sign up at sleep out, sleep out, excuse me. 00:17:19.628 --> 00:17:27.639 - And unfortunately, I can't read it because it's covered, sleepout.info. And it's at the First United 00:17:27.639 --> 00:17:32.478 - Methodist Church, green space. So please do that if you can. 00:17:33.954 --> 00:17:41.650 - Teachers Warehouse Supply Drive, the sign-up sheet is now out. Remember that's our biggest volunteer 00:17:41.650 --> 00:17:49.650 - event of the year. This sign-up sheet link should be in the roundabout this week. If you save the dates. 00:17:49.650 --> 00:17:57.423 - Club Picnic at Bryan Park will be meeting at the Woodlawn Shelter. That's on Tuesday, June 23rd. That 00:17:57.423 --> 00:18:00.318 - will be in lieu of a regular meeting. 00:18:01.026 --> 00:18:08.242 - The Chamber Business After Hours is on the 24th, 530 to 730 at Harris Services. Let's see, the Rotary 00:18:08.242 --> 00:18:15.600 - Book Club, July 8th. Do I have the dates right? Sally and Judy, yes, okay. Home of Cindy and Dave, 3000 00:18:15.600 --> 00:18:22.958 - East Winston Street. There is information on the book that's going to be read. Sally Gaskell is sitting 00:18:22.958 --> 00:18:30.174 - over there if you're interested, and then Judy Schroeder can probably help you if you have questions. 00:18:30.786 --> 00:18:37.946 - And then November 6th, the Rotary Toast at Ivy Tech. The Rotary Toast website is selling tables. So 00:18:37.946 --> 00:18:45.106 - if you have any interest in buying a table, go there and go for it. Rotary seminary is a focus. And 00:18:45.106 --> 00:18:52.481 - we're now in the month of June. June designation is Rotary Fellowships Month. And what binds Rotarians 00:18:52.481 --> 00:19:00.286 - together is a unity of desire, unity of purpose to serve society and to serve mankind, a unity in diversity. 00:19:01.954 --> 00:19:09.153 - And remember, as Rotarians, we believe in service above self. And May-June Happy Dollars will be donated 00:19:09.153 --> 00:19:16.009 - to the Rotary Foundation to fight polio, undertake service projects around the world. We're running 00:19:16.009 --> 00:19:22.865 - a little bit behind schedule, so we won't do Happy Dollars today. So at this point, Connie, can you 00:19:22.865 --> 00:19:25.950 - come up and introduce our speaker for today? 00:19:33.922 --> 00:19:42.198 - This is probably the last time I'll say this. Thank you, President Steve. Bill Daniels has degrees in 00:19:42.198 --> 00:19:50.312 - musical theater, theology and health science. Bill retired in 2019 from a work life spent primarily 00:19:50.312 --> 00:19:57.534 - in horticulture and as an environmental health and safety professional. When he retired, 00:19:57.698 --> 00:20:05.279 - Bill has been focusing on projects that enable networks of amateur and professional plant growers. He 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:12.861 - hopes they will work together regionally to obtain and propagate native plant seeds. The goal is more 00:20:12.861 --> 00:20:20.368 - ecologically appropriate native plants in all of our landscapes. A master gardener, and that's a big 00:20:20.368 --> 00:20:26.686 - deal. Are there any other master gardeners here? Yeah, that is super hard to become. 00:20:27.778 --> 00:20:35.609 - A master gardener, Bill is the program leader for Native Seed Communities, a project of the Indiana 00:20:35.609 --> 00:20:43.909 - Native Plant Society, a grower and organizer for MC Iris' Fall Native Plant Sale, and volunteer co-leader 00:20:43.909 --> 00:20:51.740 - for Sycamore Land Trust's Native Plant Conservation Nursery. I met Bill because we sang together in 00:20:51.740 --> 00:20:56.830 - the UU Choir, and I must tell you that Bill is also a performer. 00:20:57.122 --> 00:21:07.969 - He sings beautifully. I give you Bill Daniels. Thank you, Connie. Is this doing okay? All right. Thanks 00:21:07.969 --> 00:21:18.608 - so much, Connie, for that kind introduction. And hi, everyone. This is my second Rotary presentation. 00:21:18.608 --> 00:21:20.798 - The first one was in 00:21:21.026 --> 00:21:28.877 - Probably mid-80s, 1980, that is. And it was at Rotary International. And I was in a musical group, and 00:21:28.877 --> 00:21:36.651 - we performed. And I honestly don't remember which year or whatever. But anyway, it's good to be here. 00:21:36.651 --> 00:21:39.166 - I've got a very different topic. 00:21:39.298 --> 00:21:49.091 - As Connie said, I'm representing a few different organizations, MCIRIS, the Indiana Native Plant Society, 00:21:49.091 --> 00:21:58.515 - which specifically is the program Native Seed Communities, which I'm the program leader, and then she 00:21:58.515 --> 00:22:08.862 - already said Master Gardeners. So today, if we could move my slide, please. Or I do that, don't I? There we go. 00:22:08.994 --> 00:22:19.108 - Thank you. First off, are many of you familiar with native plants and the benefits of? I figured probably 00:22:19.108 --> 00:22:28.841 - so. But I thought it would just, for those that may not have that understanding. So native plants are 00:22:28.841 --> 00:22:35.902 - ones that have grown in a particular environment, a particular ecosystem. 00:22:36.002 --> 00:22:44.639 - Over time, these plants have evolved and adapted to the soils, to the climate, as well as other native 00:22:44.639 --> 00:22:53.192 - plants and animals. So, let me... So, some of the benefits of the native plants are really to hit the 00:22:53.192 --> 00:23:00.990 - ecosystem services. One of the main ones is, at least that I focus on, is food for wildlife. 00:23:01.826 --> 00:23:11.278 - Whether it's seeds, nectar, leaves, insects, and then the birds are the, and into the mammals. The native 00:23:11.278 --> 00:23:20.462 - plants are really the foundation of our ecosystems. They are the base of all of our food webs. And one 00:23:20.462 --> 00:23:29.022 - thing that a lot of people may not realize is that the majority of our insects are specialists. 00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:37.965 - And when I say a specialist, they can only eat certain plants. So there are host plants that allow them 00:23:37.965 --> 00:23:46.764 - to survive. And if we have a lot of plants from Asia, from Europe, et cetera, in our yards and our parks 00:23:46.764 --> 00:23:51.038 - and everything, well, our insects can't eat those. 00:23:51.202 --> 00:23:58.971 - It's a myth that most of our insects are generalists. Sometimes in our gardens, it appears that, 00:23:58.971 --> 00:24:07.061 - you know, everybody can eat our plants. But really, it's really a rare thing. And I know many of you 00:24:07.061 --> 00:24:14.590 - are very familiar with the relationship of a monarch butterfly. It's caterpillar to milkweed. 00:24:14.722 --> 00:24:22.776 - and uh... but that's just one of thousands and hundreds of thousands i would imagine so anyway habitat 00:24:22.776 --> 00:24:28.094 - and shelter pollinator support many of our pollinators too can only 00:24:28.482 --> 00:24:37.664 - pollinate very specific flowers, genuses of plants. And not only can, you know, as far as the eating 00:24:37.664 --> 00:24:47.027 - part, eating of the leaves and everything, the nectar and the pollen as well can be a challenge. Soil, 00:24:47.027 --> 00:24:56.118 - water health, flood, climate reliance, then again, biodiversity boost, and then carbon storage. So, 00:24:56.118 --> 00:24:57.118 - what I do, 00:24:57.218 --> 00:25:06.141 - My thing is growing natives from seed. And one of my—one of the people that inspired me the most was—it 00:25:06.141 --> 00:25:14.816 - is Heather McCargo. And she started the Wild Seed Project out of Maine. And in one of her presentations, 00:25:14.816 --> 00:25:22.334 - she had the quote that our native plants are losing their place in our world. We need both 00:25:22.594 --> 00:25:33.104 - from seed. So anyway, I was already doing a lot of this. I was studying how to propagate our native 00:25:33.104 --> 00:25:43.930 - plants. One of the things about our native plants, like our garden, regular garden plants, is that our 00:25:43.930 --> 00:25:45.822 - native plants are 00:25:45.922 --> 00:25:53.990 - The majority, over 80%, need a cold, moist period for our region. Not surprisingly, they need winter 00:25:53.990 --> 00:26:02.059 - before they can properly germinate. But there are a lot of other needs if we want to have consistent 00:26:02.059 --> 00:26:10.846 - and timely germination, things that we can do. And I've got a lot of tools up here and equipment on my table. 00:26:11.522 --> 00:26:20.501 - that I may point to, and Michael may come up with the camera and take some pictures for those of you 00:26:20.501 --> 00:26:30.013 - online. But I probably won't be doing a lot of demo, that's usually a longer presentation. So, but anyway, 00:26:30.013 --> 00:26:38.903 - so there are two main methods. Container, on the left hand, the left hand picture there, that's our 00:26:38.903 --> 00:26:41.214 - property in Brown County, 00:26:41.378 --> 00:26:50.296 - where I had lots of plants all over the place, tried to put them in places deer wouldn't get to. And 00:26:50.296 --> 00:26:59.303 - then there's also the direct seeding of seeds. And this is just a 14 and a half ounce bean can that's 00:26:59.303 --> 00:27:08.398 - been burned. And the acorns are put down and then the can is tapped down into the ground. And have any 00:27:08.398 --> 00:27:10.782 - of you heard of Ray Major? 00:27:11.234 --> 00:27:19.265 - Yes, Amy has. But anyway, Ray Major from Trees from Seed. He's also a local musician, harmonica player, 00:27:19.265 --> 00:27:26.986 - and everything. But anyway, I'll let Ray come sometime to do that presentation. But we've got a lot 00:27:26.986 --> 00:27:35.172 - of stuff going on here from a standpoint of growing natives from Seed. The upper left-hand corner, that's 00:27:35.172 --> 00:27:38.878 - a city event collecting in Miller Showers Park. 00:27:39.074 --> 00:27:48.733 - I've done gobs of presentations at churches and for garden clubs and for Native Plant Society chapters. 00:27:48.733 --> 00:27:58.206 - The Sycamore Land Trust, the middle picture there at the top, collecting at the Sam Schein Foundation 00:27:58.206 --> 00:28:02.942 - seeds. MC Iris, I think you had Mary Reardon here. 00:28:03.074 --> 00:28:11.792 - Not too long ago talking about invasive plants. Well, I I help out with the replacing those invasives 00:28:11.792 --> 00:28:21.023 - with with natives so in in and we're just We're taking some of these some of ceilings that we've germinated 00:28:21.023 --> 00:28:26.750 - we've propagated and we're putting them in individual pots for the 00:28:27.298 --> 00:28:36.367 - for the upcoming, for the fall sale. A workshop on building a germination station, which I've got a 00:28:36.367 --> 00:28:45.617 - kind of a fancy example of that up here. And then other pictures of sales and sewing events. So we've 00:28:45.617 --> 00:28:54.776 - got a lot going on here from that standpoint. So anyway, as far as this whole process, you gotta get 00:28:54.776 --> 00:28:55.774 - some seed. 00:28:55.938 --> 00:29:05.112 - You can go out and collect it on your own. We've got a lot of resources on how to do that. And some 00:29:05.112 --> 00:29:14.470 - of those pictures reflect that. The lower left-hand corner shows just a picture of the Indiana Native 00:29:14.470 --> 00:29:24.286 - Plant Society. We have a major seed swap at our annual conference. Over on the right-hand side, the little 00:29:24.514 --> 00:29:33.708 - It looks like a little library box. That's a little native seed library box, Johnson County, Blair Beavers. 00:29:33.708 --> 00:29:42.561 - They've got a project there that all the gardens that they've got throughout the city in Franklin, they 00:29:42.561 --> 00:29:48.350 - collect the seed and then they provide those seeds to the visitors. 00:29:48.578 --> 00:29:58.755 - So, but our Monroe County downtown library, we've got a native seed swap there as well as a library 00:29:58.755 --> 00:30:09.136 - there as well. And other groups around town do that, have swaps. So these are just some of the tools. 00:30:09.136 --> 00:30:16.158 - I'm not gonna go into them a lot. I've got a number of them up here. 00:30:16.418 --> 00:30:24.740 - uh... upon how to collect seeds uh... let's see and and when we we collect the seeds unlike the seeds 00:30:24.740 --> 00:30:32.900 - that you buy from maize or wherever you get them uh... those are live pure seed they've been really 00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:41.630 - cleaned and everything but when we when we trade seeds when we collect the seeds uh... they've they've got 00:30:41.954 --> 00:30:49.182 - all this other material with them. So we've got to, we want to get to down as close as we can to what 00:30:49.182 --> 00:30:55.843 - the seed is. And that way, then we're going to have a more consistent germination, et cetera. 00:30:55.843 --> 00:31:03.001 - Now in nature, the seeds drop and they, it may take two, two years, three years before they actually 00:31:03.001 --> 00:31:10.654 - break down and are able to germinate. So, so we've got different tools. We've got seeds. We've got, um, um, 00:31:11.010 --> 00:31:20.662 - Even some of the hard coats, a lot of our legumes, we have sandpaper that we thin the coats so that 00:31:20.662 --> 00:31:29.445 - they'll readily germinate the next year. Otherwise, it may take two, four years, whatever, 00:31:29.445 --> 00:31:39.096 - for many of them. So we've got just a number of tools like this. I will show you this. We use a lot 00:31:39.096 --> 00:31:40.158 - of sieves. 00:31:40.322 --> 00:31:48.715 - ones that I've bought. My dad was a, he bought boats and I've bought sieves. This whole set costs about 00:31:48.715 --> 00:31:57.350 - $300, but they're really worth it. And then from Goodwill, I just found a basting pan and it works perfect 00:31:57.350 --> 00:32:03.806 - on the bottom. But you can, you don't have to spend that much. You can actually 00:32:04.194 --> 00:32:14.422 - You can get graduated sieves to take out all the vegetative matter. And I just got those from Goodwill. 00:32:14.422 --> 00:32:23.864 - But anyway, we've got a lot of tools that can be used for cleaning that seed, getting it ready. 00:32:23.864 --> 00:32:29.470 - All right, and then the sewing, we want to sew the seed. 00:32:29.634 --> 00:32:40.738 - We need pots, we need soil. One of the things that can be important is that many of the soil mixes that 00:32:40.738 --> 00:32:51.842 - you buy, there's not a lot of food to them. They're very sterile. And so one thing that Heather McCargo 00:32:51.842 --> 00:32:58.142 - teaches is it's good to get a good compost-based soil mix. 00:32:58.370 --> 00:33:06.310 - when you're doing this. And I have really seen a difference between using it, just a basic soil mix 00:33:06.310 --> 00:33:14.646 - and a compost base. You need some seed, that's the top, the picture, second from the right. We use sand. 00:33:14.646 --> 00:33:22.745 - I've got some up here, a coarse sand to cover many of the seeds. Not all seeds should be covered, but 00:33:22.745 --> 00:33:26.238 - many of them do require it. Labels, pencil, 00:33:26.978 --> 00:33:35.136 - You need to water it in and then provide some kind of protection. And that's just some hardware cloth 00:33:35.136 --> 00:33:43.214 - there. So here's the process. Fill the pot to the rim and press soil down so that it's firm. Get all 00:33:43.214 --> 00:33:45.374 - the air pockets out of it. 00:33:45.474 --> 00:33:52.049 - then we would sprinkle the seed on top. It's okay to be generous with the seed. Our native plants, if 00:33:52.049 --> 00:33:58.689 - you look at the, if you look at road sides, there's not a lot of space in between the seeds. They are, 00:33:58.689 --> 00:34:05.393 - they're all growing together, elbow to elbow. So you can do that as well, and I kind of demo that here. 00:34:05.393 --> 00:34:11.646 - This is kind of a neat one. It's American wisteria. So it's not the Asian one that's taking over 00:34:11.938 --> 00:34:20.376 - some of our woodlands. It is the American. It's less aggressive, but you still may not want to put it 00:34:20.376 --> 00:34:29.394 - on an eighth of an acre yard. But anyway, you can put those closely together. Many of them, I had mentioned, 00:34:29.394 --> 00:34:37.667 - you cover with a coarse layer of sand to the depth of the thickness of the seed itself. You want to 00:34:37.667 --> 00:34:41.886 - label it. Every year, I forget to label something. 00:34:42.210 --> 00:34:50.144 - And so you want to make sure you label it. I've got one at home. It's beautiful, but I just, I've tried 00:34:50.144 --> 00:34:58.154 - a lot of new things this year and I'm not sure what it is. So anyway, provide protection and then again, 00:34:58.154 --> 00:35:06.622 - and I'll let you all come up and look at this, but we just make a germination station. Many of these seeds are 00:35:06.722 --> 00:35:15.019 - not only valuable to us, but they're especially valuable to rodents and squirrels, and even if they 00:35:15.019 --> 00:35:23.564 - don't go for the seed, they just like to dig in, you know, and can really mess things up. And then you 00:35:23.564 --> 00:35:32.109 - simply, at least in this process, and by the way, this is done the sowing late fall, early winter, and 00:35:32.109 --> 00:35:35.262 - then I had mentioned earlier that 80% 00:35:35.842 --> 00:35:46.640 - of our native plants do require some kind of winter. And so you just put them outside. And even if they 00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:56.919 - don't require it, it's okay. And let nature do its thing. Let it go through the winter. All right, 00:35:56.919 --> 00:36:02.526 - and then, so here are just some pictures, April, May, 00:36:03.362 --> 00:36:11.838 - June, so late June, and since a lot of the stuff that I grow and the organizations that I help out with, 00:36:12.290 --> 00:36:20.506 - grow, they're for sales, they're fundraisers. Sycamore we raised so far, I think it was about $18,500 00:36:20.506 --> 00:36:28.723 - and that will go specifically to our native plant nursery. Has anybody ever been to like the Sycamore 00:36:28.723 --> 00:36:37.342 - sale at Blooming Foods? There's Amy and yeah, and Connie. So, and then we have the really big one as well. 00:36:37.602 --> 00:36:47.468 - at Switchyard Park in the maintenance building. So anyway, so we take them like, we take it like this, 00:36:47.468 --> 00:36:57.237 - we just then turn it over, we empty it out, and then we delicately pull the plants apart, and then we 00:36:57.237 --> 00:37:07.582 - replant those in typically just what's called a plug pot, a two-inch pot, thank you, Michael, two-inch pot, 00:37:07.746 --> 00:37:18.263 - And then we put them in the pots, and we put them in a flat. And then on the very right-hand side, that 00:37:18.263 --> 00:37:28.578 - picture, it just shows, when I do this for myself, I don't put them in individual pots. I put them in 00:37:28.578 --> 00:37:32.926 - clump pots. And then by the fall, they're, 00:37:33.058 --> 00:37:41.723 - They get pretty nice and big, and I often just either plant them as a clump or I pull them apart and 00:37:41.723 --> 00:37:51.074 - plant two or three together, because that's kind of what nature does. And then we've got a lot of resources. 00:37:51.074 --> 00:38:00.254 - This is in the Indiana Native Plant Society's website. We have a whole section under seeds. It talks about 00:38:00.546 --> 00:38:09.059 - how to grow from seeds, talks a little bit about the project, native seed communities, and then Ray 00:38:09.059 --> 00:38:17.997 - Major has a section on there as well for growing trees from seed. All right, and then we've got a Trello 00:38:17.997 --> 00:38:26.935 - board. We've done 21 presentations on how to do this at different organizations. Any of you know Jillian 00:38:26.935 --> 00:38:28.382 - Field? Yeah, so. 00:38:28.482 --> 00:38:39.774 - A lot of people know Jillian with MCIris and with the city. She does incredible work with working with 00:38:39.774 --> 00:38:51.175 - invasives, pollinator support, et cetera, pollinator partnership activities and Bee City stuff and all. 00:38:51.175 --> 00:38:57.534 - And then we've got a YouTube channel as well. All righty. 00:38:57.634 --> 00:39:06.423 - Questions, kind of short and sweet, but I think that's, yes sir. So we'll have to wait till Michael 00:39:06.423 --> 00:39:15.300 - gets to you. Thank you for your presentation. You're welcome. I'm not a very smart botanist, but I'm 00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:24.441 - not sure what seeds you're talking about. You've not mentioned the names of the plants that are endemic 00:39:24.441 --> 00:39:26.814 - to this area. Okay, well I 00:39:26.946 --> 00:39:37.822 - Just an example, this is the spotted bee ball. And let's see, it's Menardia punctata, that's right. 00:39:37.822 --> 00:39:49.351 - And so it is, it's one of, it's one of the mints. That's an example. I talked about wisteria. Joe pieweed 00:39:49.351 --> 00:39:56.094 - is, hollow Joe pieweed is a really common seed. So there are, 00:39:56.514 --> 00:40:05.162 - There are the native plants that you would see in the woods. It could be trees. In fact, I've got some 00:40:05.162 --> 00:40:13.811 - seedlings right now growing on a property that I planted, this large oak, the acorns of this large oak 00:40:13.811 --> 00:40:22.711 - down below, many of you below here. Are you familiar with that? I think it's Big Burrow. Yeah. So anyway, 00:40:22.711 --> 00:40:25.566 - it could be those kinds of seeds. 00:40:25.890 --> 00:40:35.096 - I can name you others, but does that give you an idea? Okay, excellent. Yes. The whole can example with 00:40:35.096 --> 00:40:44.302 - a, can you elaborate more on that and like which ones you can do it for and which ones you can, because 00:40:44.302 --> 00:40:53.950 - that's the first time I've ever heard of burying a can. So what that is is it's just a little vegetable can. 00:40:54.146 --> 00:41:03.766 - bean can, and you take that, and how Ray does it, he puts it in a, he starts a fire, maybe illegal, 00:41:03.766 --> 00:41:13.482 - but he starts a fire, and then he burns off the coating on the can, and then, so he'll take three or 00:41:13.482 --> 00:41:23.294 - four, I mean, he'll wheel, I've done it too, you take three or four acorns, and you sew those acorns, 00:41:23.842 --> 00:41:31.702 - and then you take the can, you turn it upside down. Well, first you poke holes in it with a piece of 00:41:31.702 --> 00:41:39.561 - rebar is one of the easiest things, and you poke three or four holes in it, and then you tap it down 00:41:39.561 --> 00:41:47.343 - over those acorns, and then the squirrels and, or chipmunks, et cetera, they can't get to it, so it 00:41:47.343 --> 00:41:51.934 - protects it. And then when they actually germinate, those, 00:41:52.194 --> 00:42:00.193 - those seedlings find those holes and they grow up. And then within the first year, seedlings for an 00:42:00.193 --> 00:42:08.432 - oak are about this big probably. And then by the time they start really going the second year, the can 00:42:08.432 --> 00:42:16.590 - disintegrates. Yeah. So it rusts away. So it's a Droste can. The person that kind of invented that is 00:42:16.590 --> 00:42:18.590 - his last name is Droste. 00:42:18.786 --> 00:42:26.935 - and Ray knew him. But there were other methods to protect, but those, the acorns are just so valuable 00:42:26.935 --> 00:42:35.244 - to wildlife. Even our buckeyes or anything, I had a buckeye. I'd sown some buckeyes and within a couple 00:42:35.244 --> 00:42:43.552 - hours, the buckeyes were gone. In fact, those oaks I was mentioning, I went to the backyard to get some 00:42:43.552 --> 00:42:45.310 - bricks I was going to 00:42:45.762 --> 00:42:56.446 - put them around the edge of a little cage that I had for it, a wire cage. And I see this chipmunk going 00:42:56.446 --> 00:43:06.924 - down the road and it had its cheeks full. And it had already gotten my acorns. So it was watching me. 00:43:06.924 --> 00:43:12.574 - I swear. I swear. Yeah. So anyway, they're high value. 00:43:13.570 --> 00:43:20.213 - When you were introduced, she said that you had studied theology. You also were a member of the UU choir. 00:43:20.213 --> 00:43:26.543 - So I'm going to be bold to ask this question. I look around this audience, I see several people that 00:43:26.543 --> 00:43:32.872 - have studied theology. And I know my seminary in Princeton, New Jersey, has a farminary now. And the 00:43:32.872 --> 00:43:39.202 - students just love to go out there and work with plants and learn about it. What is your theology of 00:43:39.202 --> 00:43:42.398 - the earth from these studies and your experiments? 00:43:44.674 --> 00:43:56.287 - Okay. Well, you know, honestly, I've not really delved into that a whole lot. I'm sorry. I've been more 00:43:56.287 --> 00:44:06.449 - practical. My theology was from many years ago. And so, right now, I'm a UU person and I'm 00:44:06.449 --> 00:44:12.926 - kind of free-spiriting, you know, when it comes that way. 00:44:13.186 --> 00:44:25.112 - Sorry, I don't know. Maybe you have some thoughts. Would you like to talk about it a bit? Anyway. Anybody 00:44:25.112 --> 00:44:36.926 - else? Yes, Amy. So people like to have pretty yards and it's really tempting to plant non-native species 00:44:37.154 --> 00:44:45.432 - Why is it not necessarily a good idea or if you have to plant non-native species to make sure they're 00:44:45.432 --> 00:44:53.548 - not invasive? Why is it a good idea not to plant them? Say that again. Why would we not necessarily 00:44:53.548 --> 00:45:01.907 - want to plant non-native species or especially invasive species and how do those affect native species 00:45:01.907 --> 00:45:06.046 - of plants and animals? We already talked about the 00:45:06.626 --> 00:45:16.181 - the ability of our insects are not able to eat those. So they, yeah, they're beautiful for us. We like 00:45:16.181 --> 00:45:25.643 - pretty flowers and everything, but they really don't add a lot to the environment. And then invasive, 00:45:25.643 --> 00:45:33.342 - why not evasives too? Okay, and then the invasives, well, I think you can look at, 00:45:33.666 --> 00:45:46.412 - many of the open areas, especially like on 69 and the second street out in that area, and the Bradford 00:45:46.412 --> 00:45:58.786 - pair is just taking over those open areas and just filling it in. I know the new Monroe County Park 00:45:58.786 --> 00:46:00.766 - out off of 446, 00:46:01.186 --> 00:46:11.602 - It's got a terrible infestation of Bradford pear out there. So anyway, a lot of those aggressives, well, 00:46:11.602 --> 00:46:22.117 - I talked about, hopefully this is what you're getting at, Amy, but wisteria in Brown County, my neighbors 00:46:22.117 --> 00:46:30.846 - had five acres along Salt Creek, and it was completely covered with the Asian wisteria. 00:46:31.266 --> 00:46:43.063 - they just take over and they choke everything else out. Some of them have allopathic, they've got results 00:46:43.063 --> 00:46:54.415 - where they've got a chemical that actually keeps other plants from growing around them. So anyway, is 00:46:54.415 --> 00:46:59.646 - that okay? Oh, okay, that's great. So you can, 00:46:59.810 --> 00:47:09.990 - We've got a lot of resources on the Indiana Native Plant Society's website. If you're on Facebook, the 00:47:09.990 --> 00:47:19.973 - Indiana Native Plant Society has a lot of information there. But our local organization, MCIRIS, and 00:47:19.973 --> 00:47:29.758 - you already had Mary Reardon here, on that website, it actually shares the list of state-regulated 00:47:29.922 --> 00:47:39.131 - plants. It shares a lot of the other plants as well that are invasive to our area. So thank you. As 00:47:39.131 --> 00:47:48.432 - somebody that grows plants, there's some that are particularly satisfying to do. Are there some that 00:47:48.432 --> 00:47:57.825 - you like, wow, when I get that to grow, I'm really happy? Is there anything like that? You know what? 00:47:57.825 --> 00:47:59.390 - Well, I actually 00:47:59.522 --> 00:48:14.904 - Actually, there is. One of the most wanted plants is our orange milkweed, all of a sudden. Butterfly 00:48:14.904 --> 00:48:21.758 - milkweed. And for some reason, it alludes me 00:48:22.178 --> 00:48:39.582 - time and again. 00:48:39.682 --> 00:48:48.009 - We would stop and dig them up. They've got a very long taproot. I've got a picture of showing the seedling 00:48:48.009 --> 00:48:56.336 - this big. And even then, it really goes this deep. And so they're very hard to transplant. And so, anyway. 00:48:56.336 --> 00:49:04.196 - So this is more of a comment about the invasive plants. I didn't know this before I kind of got into 00:49:04.196 --> 00:49:06.142 - the environmental realm. 00:49:06.498 --> 00:49:12.967 - The state-regulated list is very short, and it takes a lot to get on it. So you will find invasive plants 00:49:12.967 --> 00:49:18.826 - being sold in Indiana that are not on the list. So you want to check the... Yeah, for instance, 00:49:18.826 --> 00:49:25.540 - Bradford pear. Right. So you want to actually check other lists that even things for sale are not necessarily 00:49:25.540 --> 00:49:28.286 - not invasive. Yeah, that's great. Thank you. 00:49:34.146 --> 00:49:40.022 - I think you just covered this a moment ago, but to help Craig, did Craig leave? Oh, no, Craig left? 00:49:40.022 --> 00:49:46.015 - Well, anyhow, could you talk a little bit more about the variety of milkweeds? There are so many more 00:49:46.015 --> 00:49:48.894 - than I realized. Yeah, yeah. Well, for our area, 00:49:49.154 --> 00:49:57.462 - We've got the butterfly milkweed. We've got our common milkweed. A lot of people avoid that because 00:49:57.462 --> 00:50:06.517 - it can really escape from the gardens, but they're beautiful. In fact, somebody said, what is that beautiful 00:50:06.517 --> 00:50:14.825 - big pink bloom flower that I've got? And it's like, well, that's common milkweed. There's also the, 00:50:14.825 --> 00:50:17.982 - let's see, swamp milkweed, thank you, 00:50:18.242 --> 00:50:31.384 - The common name is swamp, but it grows really well in just normal soils and normal moisture soils. Those 00:50:31.384 --> 00:50:44.526 - are the three main ones that are grown here. Any others that people would recommend? Yeah. I think right 00:50:44.526 --> 00:50:48.030 - now blooming is the exulta. 00:50:48.642 --> 00:50:57.049 - the, can't think of the common name. But anyway, it's got four leaves and, but anyway, I saw it in the 00:50:57.049 --> 00:51:05.212 - woods just a few days ago. Can't think of the common name of it, but it's not normally grown in our 00:51:05.212 --> 00:51:13.456 - gardens and stuff. A pokemill milkweed? Oh, pokeweed is, yeah. Pokeweed is, yeah, native, yeah. It's 00:51:13.456 --> 00:51:17.374 - a great one, but a lot of people don't like it. 00:51:18.914 --> 00:51:29.950 - So, I've got it growing on my property. Well, I think the berries are kind of messy. It can really pop 00:51:29.950 --> 00:51:41.199 - up in a lot of places. Anybody else? Why not poke milkweed? Well, it is toxic, but you can eat it. Yeah, 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:46.878 - yeah. Yeah, you got to boil it and everything, yeah. 00:51:52.322 --> 00:52:05.894 - So can you tell us some of the best native bushes, plants, or whatever that produce a good return to 00:52:05.894 --> 00:52:18.526 - attract birds? Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, a lot of our herbaceous, a lot of our native forbs 00:52:18.786 --> 00:52:31.440 - they do feed caterpillars. And our birds, even though they may eat primarily seeds as adults, over 96% 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:43.971 - of our birds feed their young, especially highly valued caterpillars. And so the caterpillars, so I'm 00:52:43.971 --> 00:52:47.902 - gonna first start there because 00:52:48.034 --> 00:52:58.955 - Caterpillars are very nutritious. They're soft. And if you've ever seen mothers feeding their young, 00:52:58.955 --> 00:53:10.093 - they just ram the insects down the mouths. So they don't do a lot of harm. They only do good. The best 00:53:10.093 --> 00:53:17.662 - tree for that is our oaks. A lot of research has been done on various 00:53:17.858 --> 00:53:29.386 - trees that are really good. If you're not familiar with Doug Tallamy, I highly recommend that you read 00:53:29.386 --> 00:53:40.802 - some of Doug's books. And he goes into this quite a bit. So, our wild cherry tree is a fantastic tree 00:53:40.802 --> 00:53:47.294 - to have, not only for the fruit, but also for the leaves. 00:53:47.426 --> 00:54:01.845 - It's like number two in supporting the Lepidoptera or the caterpillars of moths and butterflies. Yes, 00:54:01.845 --> 00:54:15.134 - and then not everybody likes goldenrod, but goldenrod is a very good one for feeding insects. 00:54:15.234 --> 00:54:24.028 - And there are some that are not clump forming. We're very familiar with the Canadian goldenrod that 00:54:24.028 --> 00:54:32.910 - just, you've got one, one year, and then it fills in the whole front yard. But there are really some 00:54:32.910 --> 00:54:41.880 - good clump formings like stiff goldenrod, et cetera. But anyway, this goes into a lot of this. As far 00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.606 - as fruits, I already mentioned 00:54:44.962 --> 00:54:56.433 - the cherry tree, their shrubs, the gray dogwoods, many of the dogwoods, the viburnums, primary serviceberry, 00:54:56.433 --> 00:55:06.853 - they're marvelous. And those are good to eat too, but the birds get them as soon as they get ripe. 00:55:06.853 --> 00:55:14.430 - So anyway, hopefully that's how. All right, thank you, it's a pleasure. 00:55:15.106 --> 00:55:24.439 - Bill, thank you. So you appeared before Rotary International in the 80s. Now you're with us in the 20s. 00:55:24.439 --> 00:55:33.682 - That would put you on track to visit again in the 2060s. But I think we'd like to have you back before 00:55:33.682 --> 00:55:37.182 - then. So thank you very much. You will 00:55:37.282 --> 00:55:43.028 - happy to know that here a few weeks ago is one of our service projects working with Michelle Cohen and 00:55:43.028 --> 00:55:48.607 - the Lake Monroe Water Fund. We were out planting native trees and it was really interesting to hear 00:55:48.607 --> 00:55:54.298 - the naturalists tell us okay you're planting this tree for this reason and that tree for that reason. 00:55:54.298 --> 00:55:59.988 - So anyway thank you so much for your talk today. On of your talk a donation will be made this quarter 00:55:59.988 --> 00:56:01.662 - to Wheeler Mission. I want to 00:56:02.050 --> 00:56:12.213 - Apologize to everyone for all the flickering and the jackhammers. Nothing came through the ceiling, 00:56:12.213 --> 00:56:22.680 - so we're good to go. I'd like to thank today's volunteers. Remember, don't come here next week. So our 00:56:22.680 --> 00:56:32.030 - next meeting will be in the Grand Hall, the Neal Marshall Black Culture Center on June 9th. 00:56:32.290 --> 00:56:38.570 - We'll have an abbreviated meeting featuring center director, Gloria Howell. Dr. Howell and her assistant 00:56:38.570 --> 00:56:44.551 - will then take us on a 30 minute tour of the center. Be no zoom access next week. So please join us 00:56:44.551 --> 00:56:50.592 - at the Neil Marshall. I will need about three or four volunteers to get there a little bit early and 00:56:50.592 --> 00:56:56.813 - to help me get things set up a little bit and maybe with attendance and greeting and some directionals. 00:56:56.813 --> 00:57:00.222 - So if you can do that, please see me after this meeting. 00:57:00.898 --> 00:57:10.313 - So Tyler, if you could share the graphic for the four-way test, please stand if you're able. Of the 00:57:10.313 --> 00:57:19.822 - things we think, say or do, first, is it the truth? Second, is it fair to all concerned? Third, will 00:57:19.822 --> 00:57:29.330 - it build goodwill and better friendships? Fourth, will it be beneficial to all concerned? And fifth, 00:57:29.330 --> 00:57:30.366 - is it fun?