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- Good afternoon, everyone. Quite a buzz going on in the room. We've got lots of attendees. It's great

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- to see some faces back from vacation that we haven't seen in a while. Welcome to the Bloomington Rotary

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- Club's weekly celebration of service. My name is Tracy Yovanovich, and I'm honored to serve as your

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- president. And please silence your electronic devices. And in honor of Labor Day next week, if you are

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- able, please stand and we'll do the Pledge of Allegiance.

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- I pledge allegiance to the flag and the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

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- one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. And as you all know,

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- or those of you who've been coming recently, I am doing the Where in the World series. If I can get

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- this quicker to work. Can you forward it?

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- Okay, there we go. So, many of you may know that Sally just returned from being in Ireland, and she

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- shared a little sign. If you look in the middle, she saw a sign for Rotary Cork County and Cork City.

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- So, I thought I would do a little investigation to see what it is that they do in Ireland to raise and

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- help the community projects. And there were a couple of—and we have some screen issues, so use your

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- imagination here.

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- As I said, we have technical difficulties occasionally. And so what you see, they do Friendship Night,

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- and Art, you're going to love this one, Friendship Night for over 200 senior citizens at Cork City Hall

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- for an evening of music, dance and laughter. The Army Band performs, and the dance floor comes alive

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- with old friends and news, sharing waltzes, quick steps and line dances.

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- So, there's something to think about. They also do Art from Inside, which is a collaboration between

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- Cork Prison, the education unit at the university, and the Rotary Club. And it provides an opportunity

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- for prisoners to display talents during incarceration and raise funds for the Children's Leukemia

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- Association. And then the last one that I'm going to bring up is the Cork

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- tree of remembrance and it's adorned every year that if you look at the Christmas tree there those are

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- yellow ribbons it's adorned every year with thousands of yellow ribbons each carrying handwritten messages

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- of love remembrance and hope for family and friends near and far and has raised over 1.2 million pounds

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- not dollars pounds for local charities since 2003 so heroes

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- Sorry, euros. What was I thinking? Yeah, that's the part of Ireland that's down south. So anyway, euros.

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- But anyway, those are some fun ideas of something that they do elsewhere in the world. And after that,

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- I would like to invite Carol Ann Hossler up for our reflection.

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- Good afternoon. Thanks for that. Do we, that is you and I, share this post-vacation memory? Write a

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- two-page essay on what you did during vacation. When I lived in Connecticut, I hated that assignment.

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- Most of the kids went to really exciting places, Switzerland, Vermont,

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- Florida. I went to Campo Beach, which was located about 10 miles from our house, and I didn't go to

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- camp. I've just returned from vacation to California, where Don and I visited friends, longtime friends.

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- This trip was a royal pain in the neck to set up, and I'm not talking about the airline tickets. We

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- had several friends

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- we hoped to see. And when we contacted them, they were very happy that we were coming. But, and to no

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- surprise, everyone has their own schedule. And most families want to get together during the summer,

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- which is totally understandable. But the process of figuring out the dates, the times, and the whereabouts

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- of connecting was tricky to say the least.

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- It felt like we were moving the chairs around on the deck. And at one point, we seriously considered

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- canceling the trip altogether. I'm so glad we didn't. It was a nostalgic time at every stop. We rehashed

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- shared memories and times of days gone by. The journey from Sacramento to San Diego provided us with

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- a glimpse into the treasure

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- times that are etched into our hearts and minds. Let me introduce you to some of our friends and briefly

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- share about those friendships and some lessons learned. We met Mary Lou and Jim at the beginning of

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- the new year, new faculty event at Shawnee Bluffs. Some of you may remember that. That friendship spans

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- 40 years. Chris was my college roommate.

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- I learned about Manzanar from her. Her parents were interned there. It's a 57-year friendship. College

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- years are great years for friendship foundations. Melinda, college roommate, 57 years. Kate and Tom,

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- college friends, 55 years. Mike and Sue, college friends, and basketball buddy, 58 years. Barron and

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- Joanie, college roommate,

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- 55 years. Reg and Peg, 54 years. College friends who share common connections to beloved mentors and

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- friends from the past, Ron and Eilidh Jean, Jerry and Jan. Doug and Pam, basketball buddy and teaching

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- colleague, 55 years. Connie and John, concert choir connection, 57 years. Then there's Margaret, 61 years.

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- I met Margaret during summer school at Point Loma High School. I was new to San Diego and we connected

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- immediately. Fortunately, there was room for me in her social network. Sometimes you just need one friend,

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- especially if the school is big. We've shared life with all these people and they've shared theirs through

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- joyous days and sad ones. Most importantly,

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- They supported us and loved us as we made the most difficult decision of our lives to place our son,

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- Jonathan, in a group home. And not only that, they never, ever forget him and the challenges he faces

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- every day. That's 923 years of friendship. But I would be remiss if I didn't add in the years for Mike and John.

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- With those years added in, the total becomes 1,016. Husbands, dear friends who have passed away, but

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- whose spirits were with us during our time with Chris and Melinda. Three couples married just a week

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- apart in 1971. We always said we'd share a 150th anniversary. It wasn't to be, but the memories are

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- vivid and the friendship remains strong.

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- Is it true that you can never make a new old friend? Maybe so, maybe no. But if you find yourself looking

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- back on friendship, my wish for you is that you have friendships that are as beautiful and treasured

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- as what I've experienced.

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- Thank you, Carol Ann. That conjured up visions of the Big Chill reunion. It's lovely. And for introductions

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- of guests, Katie. Hello, everyone. I'm here to introduce today's guests. First, we have, oh, sorry.

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- When I say your name, if you are able, please stand so that we can recognize you and welcome you to

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- Rotary. First, we have Ann Bright, guest of Jim Bright.

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- Next, we have Mara Green, guest of Leanne Ratcliffe. Nicole Mante, also guest of Leanne Ratcliffe. Brian,

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- is this Hayne? All right, from Bloomington North. Sorry, Brian. Next, we have Kerry Martin, guest of

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- Liz Irwin.

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- and Michelle Kirby, also guest of Liz Erwin. And do we have any guests online? No, we do not. Just all

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- Rotarians here. All right. Thanks, Leslie. Thank you, Katie. And now for birthdays and anniversaries.

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- If you could bring it to that page for me, Tyler. We have Laurie Garrity on the second, Jeremy Graham

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- on the 31st,

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- Don Hossler on September 3, Maryland, September 5, and Shelly Yoder just had one on the 30th. Anniversaries,

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- Peyton Flynn for one year, Emily Herman four years, Diana Hoffman two years, Charlie Osburn 34 years,

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- Leanne Ratliff two years, and Eric Spoonmore two years. So there's the anniversaries and birthdays.

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- And for announcements, just reminders, no one signed up for reflections yet. So we still have three

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- openings for September. There is a scholarship committee meeting right after this event here in the

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- room. And then quick additions, December 10th, we'll be having our holiday party. So get that on your

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- calendar. We'll be doing that at the country club. And then again, toast. We have the rotary toast tickets,

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- individual tickets go on sale next week. Is that right, Brian?

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- next Tuesday. So still got quite a few tables that we can sell. If you want to sit with specific people,

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- tables are your best bet. Do us all a favor and get them while the getting's good. And with that, I'd

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- like to bring up, I don't even know how to describe you, Mr. Baker for a very special presentation.

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- And when I say that, you'll understand why when you see him.

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- Can you see me okay? Okay, just wanna make sure. So I just also wanna mention that I didn't tell my

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- wife to sign as a guest, but my wife Beverly is with me today. And I wanna thank her, especially thank

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- her for picking this out for me. So, maybe. So good afternoon, Rotarians and guests. As you might have

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- noticed today is special for me and it is gonna be for the club. It's a special presentation of Paul

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- Harris Fellow.

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- They're all special, but I thought I would try to dress this one up just a little bit. I know you're

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- aware that Rory does good in the world, but here's some results from 2025, 2026 for Rory International

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- that sort of make a point. $477 million donated, not all by us, but Rory returns all over the world.

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- 1,800 global grants,

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- The vaccinations are over 350 million people in 128 countries, protecting people from malaria and other

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- major diseases. These are made possible by donations from Rotarians all over the world, like Rotarians

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- in this room. So thank you for that. Okay, today we're going to have a special mystery Rotarian recognized.

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- One of our newest members,

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- less than a month. This person has collected more crayons, school supplies, packed more food boxes,

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- volunteered at teacher warehouse more hours almost than anyone in our club and only been a member for

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- less than a month. Any guesses? You have a guess? Oh, okay, okay. Maybe this'll help.

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- She once acted as assistant district governor, although not on official position. Any guesses? Ann Bright,

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- would you please come forward? Katie, Katie.

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- You stand here, it'll be easier to embarrass you, okay? Okay. Just, I have just a few notes.

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- First of all, has anyone ever told you you spell your first name wrong? Yes. And you really spent a

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- year of high school in Nova Scotia. So how was that? Wonderful. Best year of education I ever had. And

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- later taught school in Newfoundland? For how long? Two years. Okay.

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- Well, I heard special sisters on the news this morning. They have an open position teaching geography

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- lessons about the Great Lakes, if you're interested. Even though you've worked tirelessly by Jim's side

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- in raising money for a beacon and other causes and helping him with all of his roadie duties, including

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- when he was our district governor,

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- and club president. Service above self-attitude made it easy for a club to make you a Paul Harris Fellow

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- Plus One. We know your extended family of kids have been impacted along with Jim. Would all love to

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- be here with you, recognize your service to others today. Often quietly behind the scenes, you are an

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- inspiration and real force of nature. So would you please welcome

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- We come over here, Natalie and Penner, and would everyone please rise and join me in recognizing and

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- with the knee bright.

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- Hold on and we have one more thing so I think we may have thrown you for a loop on the questions by

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- saying the member less than a month did that throw you guys so the board voted and you are officially

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- an honorary member for life in the club

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- So please, after wearing that outfit, don't stop. And with that, Kyla Cox Deckard, if you could introduce

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- our speaker. Congratulations, Anne. That is very exciting. I'm thrilled to be here for this honor.

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- So our guest speaker today is a colleague of mine from Indiana University. John M. Kiesler is an alum

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- of the University of Buffalo, New York and associate professor tenured at Indiana University School

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- of Social Work here on the Bloomington campus. He teaches in the graduate program and engages students

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- in innovative community focused initiatives to complement their classroom education.

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- His scholarship focuses on adversity, trauma-informed care, and quality of life in the disability service

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- industry and in rural communities. He has presented and published nationally and internationally. His

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- teaching and research has been honored with awards from Indiana University, University at Buffalo, ABAI,

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- National Association for the Duly Diagnosed, and American Association of Intellectual and Developmental

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- Disabilities.

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- John was among the first faculty members who I had the good fortune to work with at the Center for Rural

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- Engagement. He was part of the pilot program Sustaining Hoosier Communities, which has continued and

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- is thriving today, partnering with its seventh community this year in Brown County. He has gone on to

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- serve at the Center for Rural Engagement on our Faculty Advisory Council alongside Alon Barker. So we

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- actually have two members of our Faculty Advisory Council here today.

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- He is also part of our ministry in rural areas and small towns initiative where he's developing a trauma

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- informed care training for clergy and lay leaders in rural congregations across the US. And I have really

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- appreciated the opportunity to work alongside Dr. Kiesler, get to know him and watch him help students

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- connect with these rural opportunities. So please join me in welcoming Dr. Kiesler to talk with us today

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- about trauma informed care.

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- you advance the slides? Or is there something I need to do? Okay. Good afternoon, folks. Normally I

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- lecture for upwards of three hours. So I'm assuming you're all here for that. It's good to be here with

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- you. This is only my second Rotary meeting in my lifetime, and I certainly

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- appreciate the work that all of you do and what you stand for. As a social worker, by training

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- and profession, we share a lot of the same values. Carol Ann, I think, was the person that spoke about

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- the summer reflection. Where are you, please? Thank you. I need to see a face and a name to get the

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- rest of what I was going to say. Thank you so much for your story.

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- And I recognize the challenges of placing a child in a group home. For more than a decade, I worked

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- with individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities and their families directly in various

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- positions. And that support is very much needed. And we also need to improve the care that folks get,

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- and we need to recognize them as members of our community as well. So thank you. So trauma-informed

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- care, what is it about? Where does it come from?

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- I want to begin with an understanding of trauma. I think we've become very loosey-goosey with the term

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- trauma. I know I've said this before, if you've ever heard me talk, but my students will tell me that

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- sometimes they find migrating as traumatic. Now, you don't like migrating, you might be stressed out,

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- but it's not traumatic. We use that word

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- so commonly that it's lost some of its power. If you think of a Vietnam veteran with post-traumatic

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- stress disorder, then you think trauma. And I think times have changed, and our understanding has changed

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- a little bit, but sometimes I think we need to get back to the roots. Because trauma is not something

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- that we need to take lightly, it's not just everyday stress. Because if it's everyday stress, then what

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- is stress?

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- And so I begin here with a definition, so we're all on the same page about what we're talking about.

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- SAMHSA at our federal level, Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration, agreed that we needed

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- to come up with a common definition of what trauma is. And so they have the three E's. The event, the

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- experience, and the effects. Good thing I've not done this before. So the event, something has to happen.

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- A car crash. A plane crash. I hate to say that. Sorry, Kyla. But it was on my mind. You know, murder.

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- Poverty. Neglect. Ongoing conditions even. So something has to happen. We oftentimes think of trauma

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- as the event. It's not. The event is just the event.

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- The next critical piece is the experience. How does the person assign meeting to that event? How many

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- of you have been in a car accident? Many of us, many of us. And we don't necessarily see it as traumatic

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- life threatening, but for some of us it is, it is. So it's how we assign meaning to that event, how

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- we experience that event. And there's so much that goes into how we experience it.

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- What are our friends and our social connections? Friends that last 50 and 60 years, totaling over a

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- thousand years. That can bolster our resilience and our ability to bounce back from traumatic experiences.

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- But imagine that you're isolated. Imagine that you don't have access to mental health resources or to

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- basic needs. These can really influence how you see or experience an event and how you experience it

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- ultimately predicts or influences the effects of that event or those circumstances on your life. Sometimes

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- these effects can be immediate. Sometimes they can be delayed. Sometimes you can get over them pretty

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- quickly, and sometimes they're lifelong. The only way to truly understand if something is trauma or

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- traumatic to a person is to ask them. We cannot assign that meaning for a person

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- We cannot walk or replace or be there in their shoes, but we can ask them. They're the best person to

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- give us that information. But I wouldn't also advise that you go around asking people if they've been

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- traumatized. So what is trauma-informed care? Here again, we have four Rs. So we had the three Es for

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- trauma. We have the four Rs for trauma-informed care.

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- It's about realizing the widespread impact of trauma and understand that there's multiple pathways for

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- healing and recovery. People with intellectual and developmental disabilities, three, four, ten times

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- more likely to experience trauma, depends on the study. Veterans, military-connected populations, twice

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- as likely as the general population.

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- many of us will experience potentially traumatic events in our lifetime. Okay. So we have to understand

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- that it is very common. It was once thought that it was outside the norm. It was until the nineties

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- that we realized how common actually adversity and potentially traumatic events are in people's lives.

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- Okay. We need to recognize the signs and symptoms. So things like hypervigilance, nightmares, night terrors,

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- Changes in mood, negative changes that is, negative changes in cognitions or thinking processes, avoiding

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- places and things that remind you of that event. But there's also others. Inability to sit still, inability

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- to self-regulate, inability to learn and pay attention in the classroom, inability to do well on a job

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- interview,

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- All of these things we're finding are actually linked to trauma. Not always, not always, it's not a

00:25:40.094 --> 00:25:46.560
- given, but in many cases, it has been linked, okay? So we need to realize that trauma's pretty widespread.

00:25:46.560 --> 00:25:52.785
- We need to recognize the signs and symptoms, and we need to respond. We need to respond by integrating

00:25:52.785 --> 00:25:59.010
- what we know about trauma and the principles of trauma-informed care that I'll talk about here shortly

00:25:59.010 --> 00:26:01.790
- into our policies, procedures, and practices.

00:26:02.690 --> 00:26:09.717
- So right there, you should have some idea of what I'll be talking about next regarding organizational

00:26:09.717 --> 00:26:16.883
- wide approaches or systems approaches to responding to folks who may or may not have experienced trauma

00:26:16.883 --> 00:26:23.910
- because we're talking about policies, procedures, practices, how we train our staff even, and we need

00:26:23.910 --> 00:26:31.006
- to resist causing further harm. There are things that we can do the way we approach people, the things

00:26:31.006 --> 00:26:31.902
- that we say,

00:26:32.546 --> 00:26:38.791
- how we respond that can actually cause more harm. That can trigger them, can re-traumatize them. I'm

00:26:38.791 --> 00:26:45.283
- not talking about we won't need to walk around and handle everybody with kid gloves. That's not reality.

00:26:45.283 --> 00:26:51.527
- But we do need to understand the impact of trauma. We need to be kind, and there's other things that

00:26:51.527 --> 00:26:52.702
- we can do as well.

00:26:54.018 --> 00:27:01.229
- So realize that trauma is common, recognize the signs and symptoms, respond with integrating this knowledge

00:27:01.229 --> 00:27:08.106
- into what we do and how we interact with folks, and resisting causing further harm. But where did this

00:27:08.106 --> 00:27:14.983
- come from? There's two places that I'd like to talk about here briefly. One is psychiatric and patient

00:27:14.983 --> 00:27:21.660
- facilities. Sandra Bloom is a psychiatrist, and she realized patients were not getting better. They

00:27:21.660 --> 00:27:23.262
- were getting treatment.

00:27:23.394 --> 00:27:29.785
- But they're not getting better. Why? Why? Because they were using restrictive practices. Their staff

00:27:29.785 --> 00:27:36.175
- were about power and control. They weren't listening to clients. Clients had no voice. And they also

00:27:36.175 --> 00:27:42.566
- were not addressing or responding to the trauma that was underlying some of the mental health issues

00:27:42.566 --> 00:27:46.046
- that were—folks were experiencing. The other part—

00:27:46.274 --> 00:27:52.800
- was from an obesity clinic in California where doctors were recognizing that patients were losing weight,

00:27:52.800 --> 00:27:59.081
- so the treatment was effective, but they weren't staying in the treatment program. They were dropping

00:27:59.081 --> 00:28:05.361
- out. Well, they began to question, was eating a way of coping with underlying stress? So in 1998, the

00:28:05.361 --> 00:28:12.318
- study was published by Felity and ANDA around adverse childhood experiences. How many of you have heard of that?

00:28:14.050 --> 00:28:20.209
- Yeah, adverse childhood experiences are 10 types of adversity—that could be a whole presentation in

00:28:20.209 --> 00:28:26.490
- and of itself, but I'll refrain from that now—that are categorized as abuse and neglect and household

00:28:26.490 --> 00:28:32.528
- dysfunction. What they know at the population level is that they are pretty good predictors of poor

00:28:32.528 --> 00:28:36.574
- outcomes later in life. That's why early intervention is critical.

00:28:37.762 --> 00:28:46.839
- But since 1998, there has been a influx of studies and scholarship around adversity, trauma, trauma-informed

00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:55.333
- care, and how do we respond? So they notice these things in inpatient units. They notice these things

00:28:55.333 --> 00:29:01.246
- in a clinic. Where else do such trends occur? Lots of places, schools.

00:29:01.986 --> 00:29:08.226
- We've recognized a lot about schools and the environment and teaching kids to identify their emotions,

00:29:08.226 --> 00:29:14.345
- helping them to cope. You may not be for social emotional curriculums, but I assure you that there's

00:29:14.345 --> 00:29:20.949
- a reason for them and it's backed by science because kids aren't learning this stuff elsewhere. So sometimes

00:29:20.949 --> 00:29:26.462
- we have to teach them in the classroom. So trauma informed care is a system wide approach.

00:29:27.042 --> 00:29:33.553
- In the upper corner, you'll see a picture of two people one-on-one. I'm not talking about trauma-specific

00:29:33.553 --> 00:29:39.818
- treatment like directly addressing somebody's trauma. I'm talking about, at the organizational level,

00:29:39.818 --> 00:29:45.960
- the environment, the culture and climate of workplaces, how we train staff, how we support clients,

00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:51.550
- how we support each other. This is the one thing that's unique about trauma-informed care.

00:29:52.418 --> 00:29:59.324
- is it's a philosophy for system-wide way of doing things. It's not just about how our clients or our

00:29:59.324 --> 00:30:06.229
- customers are doing, it's how our staff are doing. There's five basic principles. Six in this one, I

00:30:06.229 --> 00:30:13.203
- used a different. There's basically five, but depends on the model you use. So first thing is safety.

00:30:13.203 --> 00:30:20.382
- We have to make sure that our environments are safe, not only physically safe, but psychologically safe.

00:30:21.346 --> 00:30:27.987
- Do people feel OK sharing their thoughts and feelings and perspectives? Or do they fear retribution

00:30:27.987 --> 00:30:34.694
- or harm or being belittled? OK. Trustworthiness and transparency. We have to build trust. We have to

00:30:34.694 --> 00:30:41.866
- follow through with what we say we're going to do. Collaboration and mutuality. Sharing power. Empowerment,

00:30:41.866 --> 00:30:48.573
- voice and choice. Giving people a sense of agency, allowing them to have a voice in their treatment,

00:30:48.573 --> 00:30:50.366
- in their work environment.

00:30:50.946 --> 00:30:57.215
- and recognizing cultural, historical, and gender issues. From a social work perspective, I call that

00:30:57.215 --> 00:31:03.671
- cultural humility. I only know my life experience. I only know my family's culture. I don't know yours.

00:31:03.671 --> 00:31:09.506
- So I need to take a step back and ask you about yours. It's not OK for me to assume what your

00:31:09.506 --> 00:31:15.837
- life experiences have been, or what's important to you, or what's culturally valued. OK? If you think

00:31:15.837 --> 00:31:19.934
- about these things, you're probably like, John, OK, that's great.

00:31:20.066 --> 00:31:26.894
- That's pretty basic. Yes, we should be trustworthy. Yes, we should follow through with what we say.

00:31:26.894 --> 00:31:34.064
- We should provide collaboration. Yes, we should engage people that have lived through what we're talking

00:31:34.064 --> 00:31:41.029
- about. But it's all of these things combined. And it's with the purpose of recognizing that folks may

00:31:41.029 --> 00:31:48.062
- have experienced trauma that can be lifelong and enduring. The other thing is, is all of these things,

00:31:48.738 --> 00:31:58.391
- or most of them, are generally compromised in a traumatic experience. Think about combat. You're probably

00:31:58.391 --> 00:32:07.953
- not feeling very safe. Think about sexual assault. You're not feeling safe. You don't know who to trust.

00:32:07.953 --> 00:32:17.150
- You certainly were not a collaborator in the matter. Your power was taken away from you. Think about

00:32:17.150 --> 00:32:18.334
- child abuse.

00:32:19.586 --> 00:32:29.521
- Children don't feel safe. They don't have a say in the matter. They're disempowered. So that's where

00:32:29.521 --> 00:32:39.850
- all of this is coming from. It's about restoring what has been jeopardized by the traumatic experiences.

00:32:39.850 --> 00:32:44.670
- It works. It works, I can tell you. When you use

00:32:45.058 --> 00:32:53.512
- or adopt practices that align with trauma-informed care. We see a reduced use of restraints and restrictive

00:32:53.512 --> 00:33:01.810
- interventions. We see a reduced dropout rate, so clients stay in treatment longer. Employees are happier.

00:33:01.810 --> 00:33:10.264
- There's increased satisfaction. There's decreased dropout, or burnout rather, decreased secondary traumatic

00:33:10.264 --> 00:33:14.334
- stress. We see increased organizational commitment.

00:33:14.498 --> 00:33:24.016
- People wanna stay with their employers longer, okay? The fundamental mechanism for trauma-informed care

00:33:24.016 --> 00:33:33.168
- is you and me. Relationships. I wanna come back to Carol Anne, right? Your presentation was perfect

00:33:33.168 --> 00:33:43.326
- timing. Because you talked about the relationships, the friendships, and you talked about how they endured for

00:33:43.490 --> 00:33:50.362
- many years, decades. In this day and age, a lot of people are struggling with isolation and loneliness

00:33:50.362 --> 00:33:57.434
- despite the fact that we have social media. But what did you get back to? Your college campus interacting

00:33:57.434 --> 00:34:04.773
- with people. One evidence-based curriculum around trauma-informed care has this phrase of risking connection.

00:34:04.773 --> 00:34:09.310
- And that's really what this is about is we need to risk connection.

00:34:10.018 --> 00:34:16.773
- If I walk up to somebody like Kyla, I'm not guaranteed that she's gonna like me. I'm not guaranteed

00:34:16.773 --> 00:34:23.730
- that she's gonna be receptive to what I have to say. I could be rejected. But if I fear that rejection

00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:30.484
- and I don't reach out, then I miss the opportunity for collaboration, a friendship, a relationship,

00:34:30.484 --> 00:34:37.577
- somebody I can trust, somebody I can confide in. Simultaneously though, if Kyla reaches out to me, she's

00:34:37.577 --> 00:34:38.590
- taking a risk.

00:34:39.234 --> 00:34:46.588
- Because I could say, Kyle, no, thank you. Risking connection. In human services and organizations, how

00:34:46.588 --> 00:34:53.941
- likely are we to connect with people? In our communities, how likely are we to step out of our comfort

00:34:53.941 --> 00:35:01.295
- zone and reach out to somebody and connect with them to recognize their humanity? That's a fundamental

00:35:01.295 --> 00:35:06.078
- part of trauma-informed care. You become that vehicle for healing.

00:35:06.434 --> 00:35:14.247
- So much can happen between us as human beings based on how I respond to you. If you're interested in

00:35:14.247 --> 00:35:21.984
- learning more, IU has this handy-dandy online platform called Expand, and you can take many courses

00:35:21.984 --> 00:35:30.261
- for free, not all of them, this one is free, and provides you with more information around trauma-informed

00:35:30.261 --> 00:35:32.350
- care. For our base course,

00:35:33.026 --> 00:35:38.660
- as well as submodules around working with children and youth, working with folks with intellectual and

00:35:38.660 --> 00:35:44.294
- developmental disabilities, working with veterans. We did a collaboration between the Center for Rural

00:35:44.294 --> 00:35:50.037
- Engagement here and Goodwill International Industries to do a training supporting justice-involved folks

00:35:50.037 --> 00:35:55.726
- reentering the workforce, so folks that have a criminal history getting back into the workforce because

00:35:55.726 --> 00:36:01.524
- they realized that they were not being successful and in large part because of their own trauma histories

00:36:01.524 --> 00:36:02.782
- were influencing that.

00:36:03.714 --> 00:36:11.183
- And the latest is we will be working with Alasi down in Dubois County, developing a training on how

00:36:11.183 --> 00:36:18.950
- to support our Latino immigrants because there are a lot of issues there, especially with their journey

00:36:18.950 --> 00:36:26.717
- over and everything that's happening now across our nation around immigration. So how was that? I don't

00:36:26.717 --> 00:36:30.750
- know if I was 20 minutes or less, but I felt like it.

00:36:44.098 --> 00:36:54.177
- depression could that be a result from trauma yes yes I could share personally as well as professionally

00:36:54.177 --> 00:37:03.967
- not always I mean there are chemical imbalances as well there's other reasons but yes trauma can lead

00:37:03.967 --> 00:37:12.510
- to depression as well you are Kayla mentioned earlier that you'll be working with clergy

00:37:12.930 --> 00:37:21.123
- and which is interesting and that's great. But sometimes the church in certain denominations can actually

00:37:21.123 --> 00:37:29.085
- cause trauma. Oh, yes. Depending on what your sexual orientation is or your marital status or the list

00:37:29.085 --> 00:37:37.278
- goes on. So I'm wondering in addition to helping them understand some of these tools to deal with trauma,

00:37:37.278 --> 00:37:42.302
- do you also have a moment where perhaps the church and your team

00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:49.306
- calls for a bit of self-reflection and self-awareness. Yes, so in my prior life, before joining IU in

00:37:49.306 --> 00:37:55.858
- 2016, I worked as a director of music and church for 22 years. So I'm very familiar with the context

00:37:55.858 --> 00:38:02.474
- and everything that goes on. And yes, so we're not only talking about trauma-informed care with them,

00:38:02.474 --> 00:38:09.609
- but we're also giving them tools from evidence-based interventions, like solution-focused therapy, acceptance

00:38:09.609 --> 00:38:11.166
- and commitment therapy,

00:38:11.266 --> 00:38:17.242
- et cetera, but yes, we also do encourage them to pause and reflect. I'm not a miracle worker. I'm grateful

00:38:17.242 --> 00:38:22.995
- for the collaboration with CRE. I'm grateful for the funding from Lilly, and this is just, we're gonna

00:38:22.995 --> 00:38:28.581
- see what we can do, but we're building it in such a way that we can add more to it. Same thing like

00:38:28.581 --> 00:38:34.222
- with the way we structured the trauma-informed care training. We're building this in such a way that

00:38:34.222 --> 00:38:40.254
- we can add and augment. We're gonna ask faith leaders for their feedback, but yes, that is a critical part.

00:38:40.770 --> 00:38:49.027
- Definitely. Thank you. I'm interested in the role of school teachers, especially with these adverse

00:38:49.027 --> 00:38:57.285
- childhood effects, because they're the ones most likely to see them. And I want to know whether you

00:38:57.285 --> 00:39:05.542
- provide any sort of training or what an awful lot is expected of our school teachers. And I want to

00:39:05.542 --> 00:39:08.350
- get your take on that. Thank you.

00:39:08.514 --> 00:39:15.277
- Yes, thank you. Excellent point. Yes, I do do trainings and I'm happy to assist however I can. There

00:39:15.277 --> 00:39:21.974
- are other trainings out there as well. There's various curriculum around this. Teachers have a hard

00:39:21.974 --> 00:39:28.737
- job. Even at the university level, I've had two students with significant trauma histories. One died

00:39:28.737 --> 00:39:32.286
- by suicide and then the other one attempted suicide.

00:39:36.002 --> 00:39:42.430
- Yeah, I had to pause there because I don't know where my mouth was going to go. But yes, we also need

00:39:42.430 --> 00:39:48.857
- to support our teachers, not only giving them the education and the training and the tools to support

00:39:48.857 --> 00:39:55.285
- the students, but we also have to support our educators from a higher up perspective because they are

00:39:55.285 --> 00:40:01.586
- taking all of this in on a daily or regular basis. Can you talk about in the situation of a natural

00:40:01.586 --> 00:40:04.926
- disaster where people are traumatized, just the role

00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:11.964
- of having people to listen and so as the traumatized people can just tell their stories over and over

00:40:11.964 --> 00:40:18.771
- and over again. Okay, so if you always want to learn more about trauma, I'm happy to come back or do

00:40:18.771 --> 00:40:25.712
- one-on-one or something else because what you're doing is getting a little bit deeper. So what we know

00:40:25.712 --> 00:40:32.721
- is that trauma between two people is far worse than a natural disaster for a number of reasons. In part

00:40:32.721 --> 00:40:34.878
- because with natural disasters,

00:40:35.234 --> 00:40:40.942
- there's an influx of resources and support and people to connect with. That immediate response actually

00:40:40.942 --> 00:40:46.431
- alleviates and helps to soften the blow, if you will. I would not encourage people to talk over and

00:40:46.431 --> 00:40:52.084
- over again about their experience unless you're trained, a trained listener, because it could actually

00:40:52.084 --> 00:40:57.682
- get worse. But yes, being able to share your story and your experience in a safe environment and with

00:40:57.682 --> 00:41:03.006
- somebody that's gonna be supportive and well-trained is part of the healing process, definitely.

00:41:12.866 --> 00:41:19.792
- Hello. I work with students. I work at IU. I work with college freshmen in a residential setting and

00:41:19.792 --> 00:41:26.855
- I teach a course for them as well. We do a lot to build community and to be as supportive and kind and

00:41:26.855 --> 00:41:33.986
- respectful as possible. I can cultivate that in my classroom, but what I find sometimes is they go back

00:41:33.986 --> 00:41:37.758
- to the dorm and sometimes those interactions are maybe

00:41:38.306 --> 00:41:44.551
- not as positive and sometimes I've worked with students who have had trauma and it's been triggered

00:41:44.551 --> 00:41:50.858
- for, I don't know if that's the word that you would use. So I guess my question is someone who works

00:41:50.858 --> 00:41:57.227
- with students or working with people and wants to take that approach but sees it not always happening

00:41:57.227 --> 00:42:03.721
- with others. How do you recommend handling that or supporting students who had an experience that maybe

00:42:03.721 --> 00:42:08.030
- brings up that trauma and addressing it with both the person who was

00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:15.268
- perhaps retraumatize in the person who maybe wasn't fully aware of what was going on, if giving the

00:42:15.268 --> 00:42:22.478
- most charitable interpretation. Yeah. This happens not only at the college level, but organizations.

00:42:22.478 --> 00:42:29.901
- I mean, even as a faculty member, I have had some issues and I've asked higher up for support. How they

00:42:29.901 --> 00:42:37.182
- respond can make it actually worse in some cases. I would say be very careful with how you respond or

00:42:37.378 --> 00:42:43.434
- whoever else is in that situation. Grounding and stabilizing that person depending on how activated

00:42:43.434 --> 00:42:49.490
- they are. I mean, if you see that they're visibly upset, being present with them, if that's calming

00:42:49.490 --> 00:42:55.849
- to them, talking to them, moving them to a different environment to just breathe, sit and relax. I mean,

00:42:55.849 --> 00:43:01.905
- there's other things that I'm happy to share with you. For the peer, I think that there needs to be

00:43:01.905 --> 00:43:05.054
- some accountability. They may or may not have known

00:43:05.954 --> 00:43:12.753
- but they may have done things intentionally as well. But I can tell you, even as a professional, we

00:43:12.753 --> 00:43:19.688
- can only do the best we can do. And sometimes our humanity takes over. Sometimes we lose our control.

00:43:19.688 --> 00:43:26.691
- We lose our cool. We say things that are hurtful. The best thing you can do is go back and repair that

00:43:26.691 --> 00:43:33.694
- relationship. Nobody's expecting perfection. Not one of us here is God. Maybe, I don't know. But yeah.

00:43:33.858 --> 00:43:40.242
- I think accountability, retraining, but also not chastising that person, because they may not have known.

00:43:40.242 --> 00:43:46.385
- And again, you are in that position sort of triangulating with the person that was re-traumatized and

00:43:46.385 --> 00:43:52.468
- the perpetrator, and you can be that point of connection for both of them and a point of healing for

00:43:52.468 --> 00:43:58.491
- both of them. So you have to be mindful about how you approach them. But yes, I do think, you know,

00:43:58.491 --> 00:44:03.550
- helping that person come, but also holding the other person accountable and saying,

00:44:03.874 --> 00:44:14.357
- How could you do that differently? Do we have any questions online? So I'll do one. So in my role in

00:44:14.357 --> 00:44:25.255
- staffing the Human Rights Commission at the city, I frequently have to do interviews and take interviews

00:44:25.255 --> 00:44:33.662
- with people in the community who feel like they have been discriminated against.

00:44:33.922 --> 00:44:41.285
- And a large portion of the time there are people clearly who have suffered a lot of trauma. Like what

00:44:41.285 --> 00:44:48.793
- are you or we doing in that world of trying to get those people trauma? I mean, when we try to get them

00:44:48.793 --> 00:44:56.156
- to any other kind of help, we're pretty stymied because they're not interested in it. And yet you can

00:44:56.156 --> 00:45:03.230
- tell they really, really need it. Can you talk about that at all about what you do in that world?

00:45:04.770 --> 00:45:12.223
- Yes. All you can do is offer. You can't force. Um, and there is, I'm going to go a little bit too deep

00:45:12.223 --> 00:45:19.530
- here, but it's relevant. Jeff Young, uh, talks about, uh, the 10 life traps and sometimes people get

00:45:19.530 --> 00:45:27.128
- stuck in the victim mentality and that's all they see. Again, it's based on life experiences, but that's

00:45:27.128 --> 00:45:33.278
- not someplace where we should be staying. However, you can't force people to change.

00:45:34.178 --> 00:45:41.854
- How many of you have tried to change somebody? How many of you have been successful? So there's some

00:45:41.854 --> 00:45:49.758
- tools around motivational interviewing, I think, that can help get people more motivated, more inclined

00:45:49.758 --> 00:45:57.662
- to seek the help, to accept the help that you might be offering. So there's strategies and ways to talk

00:45:57.662 --> 00:46:00.094
- with them. But other than that,

00:46:00.226 --> 00:46:06.891
- You can do the best you can, offer support, follow through with what you're saying, but it's ultimately

00:46:06.891 --> 00:46:13.300
- the person's choice. And I'm also not talking about trauma-specific treatment because that requires

00:46:13.300 --> 00:46:19.836
- usually a graduate degree, credentialing, and specialized training. Trauma-informed care is something

00:46:19.836 --> 00:46:20.990
- everybody can do.

00:46:25.282 --> 00:46:34.276
- I want to go back to where you started, where you're talking about stressed versus traumatized and your

00:46:34.276 --> 00:46:43.270
- people interpreting stress as trauma. As a society, how do we create individuals or nurture individuals

00:46:43.270 --> 00:46:52.264
- to be kind and sensitive, yet also resilient? And it just seems like we've lost some of our resilience.

00:46:52.264 --> 00:46:54.686
- Yes. And how do we do both?

00:46:55.522 --> 00:47:01.846
- Yeah, that's a good question. I do believe that, and I've seen the change in the classroom over the

00:47:01.846 --> 00:47:08.170
- 10 years of being here, I do see a shift in resilience with students. And that's a good question. I

00:47:08.170 --> 00:47:14.494
- think some of it happens very early on. I think some of these interventions around social emotional

00:47:14.494 --> 00:47:20.818
- wellness can really be helpful to help people identify their emotions, to cope with their emotions,

00:47:20.818 --> 00:47:22.462
- to build that resilience.

00:47:23.426 --> 00:47:29.443
- I think that this idea that everybody's a winner? No. I mean, you know, everybody should get an award,

00:47:29.443 --> 00:47:35.343
- everybody should get a trophy. It doesn't work. That's not reality, folks. But what that has done is

00:47:35.343 --> 00:47:40.776
- I think has diminished people's resilience to cope with, OK, I need to try harder next time.

00:47:40.776 --> 00:47:46.910
- I can do better, or I will do better, or I'll practice more. This sense of it has, I think, in some ways

00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:53.722
- This is not based on science. This is my opinion now. I think it has decreased resilience in people's

00:47:53.722 --> 00:48:00.566
- ability to cope with stress. I also think that how people manage that has come out oftentimes in social

00:48:00.566 --> 00:48:07.410
- media rather than actual person-to-person resolution. We don't interact with people very well. We don't

00:48:07.410 --> 00:48:13.990
- play on playgrounds anymore. We don't run down to the milk machine at the end of the street for our

00:48:13.990 --> 00:48:16.030
- older senior citizen neighbor.

00:48:16.322 --> 00:48:24.115
- and I'd learned that not everybody had milk machines on their street. I did. It's 50 cents for a quart

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- of milk. So I think we need to get back to people skills. I think we need to, we've lost some of that,

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- quite frankly. And we need to, some of the basic lessons in life. I don't have the solution. Again,

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- I don't have the science behind that part, but I do think that giving people feedback

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- Criticism isn't always bad. It can help you to learn and grow, but it depends on how you respond to

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- it and whether or not you're given it. So couldn't agree with you more on the trophies. Feedback's a

00:49:03.836 --> 00:49:10.110
- gift. I'm very gifted, hence the gray hair. But one of the things I just

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- I've been doing CASA work since moving back here, so about seven years, and the ACEs scores is dead

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- on. Anyone in this room—you know, there's still about 130 kids out there that don't have CASAs helping

00:49:23.838 --> 00:49:30.653
- them as they navigate through everything you just talked about, and that's Monroe County only. You can

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- make a difference by helping those children.

00:49:33.858 --> 00:49:43.667
- by modeling and working with them. So while I'm not necessarily asking a question, I would just put

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- that out there, since we are about service, about self, that that's some way you can impact a child

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- very positively, albeit for a brief time. So. Yes, definitely. Thank you.

00:50:00.834 --> 00:50:07.664
- I have a statement and I have a question. First of all, I am very stressed and traumatized. And one

00:50:07.664 --> 00:50:14.563
- of the ways that helped me and has helped me is I do a kickboxing class through Revelation Wellness.

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- And it's also with prayer and scripture. And there's a group of ladies and it really like helps me.

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- But is there any other resource or besides exercising or things like that that will help in instances

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- besides medication?

00:50:30.306 --> 00:50:35.838
- Yes, yes, that's an excellent question. Okay, so I could actually refer you to somebody if you wanted,

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- talk to you afterwards, my own therapist. So yes, I am a social worker and yes, I've gone to therapy

00:50:41.263 --> 00:50:46.795
- and need to tune up from time to time. Nothing wrong with that. No shame in the game. That's also part

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- of the process. We need to talk about mental health. We need to talk about mental illness. We need to

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- talk about these things. We need to stop stigmatizing them because there are people in our midst that

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- are experiencing what we're talking about.

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- So yes, physical activity, anything, is great. Doing activity with other people, even better. Adding

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- scripture and prayer, if that's for you, it's not for everybody, maybe it's mindfulness. Yes, all of

00:51:13.933 --> 00:51:20.758
- that together sounds like a great combination. Medications do help, whether that's with the depressive

00:51:20.758 --> 00:51:27.518
- experiences or the anxiousness or the intrusive thoughts, the sleepless nights, medications can help.

00:51:28.098 --> 00:51:34.966
- I would never say just rely on medication. I would say that needs to be paired with some mental health

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- intervention. There are specific—trauma-specific interventions that can be done. EMDR, eye movement

00:51:41.767 --> 00:51:48.502
- desensitization reprocessing, is well established, well researched, and is even effective for people

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- that are non-speaking. OK?

00:51:50.402 --> 00:51:56.777
- You don't have to go through and tell your whole life story. It's pretty focused. It's pretty effective.

00:51:56.777 --> 00:52:02.910
- There's trauma-focused cognitive behavioral therapy. There is exposure therapy. There's CPT. There's

00:52:02.910 --> 00:52:09.407
- progressive counting. There are a number of evidence-based practices. Not every mental health professional

00:52:09.407 --> 00:52:16.086
- is trained in all of them. Some of them aren't trained in any of them. But if you want to connect afterwards,

00:52:16.086 --> 00:52:17.118
- I'd be happy to.

00:52:21.314 --> 00:52:31.622
- One more question? No? Okay. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you. Thanks. We have about three minutes

00:52:31.622 --> 00:52:42.638
- left if there's any happy dollars for Teachers Warehouse out there. Is anyone happy in here after discussing

00:52:42.638 --> 00:52:46.782
- trauma? Lynn's always happy about the...

00:52:46.914 --> 00:52:54.995
- I should give you $17. Last night, the, oh no, I'll give you nine. Last night, the Cubs scored nine

00:52:54.995 --> 00:53:03.076
- home runs. Yes. Three of them from Bregman. Yes. We scored 17 runs, beat our nemesis, the Milwaukee

00:53:03.076 --> 00:53:10.430
- Brewers, who lead the division 17 to three. First game of a four game series. I'm hopeful.

00:53:13.410 --> 00:53:21.151
- Ironically, Phil Amerson was at that game. I saw a post from his daughter on it. So a lot of Cubby fans.

00:53:21.151 --> 00:53:28.745
- Steve? So to build upon Carol Anne's reflection, later next week, I'm going to head east, join a group

00:53:28.745 --> 00:53:36.413
- of friends whom I've known since kindergarten. We're going to bicycle 200 miles and then go to our 50th

00:53:36.413 --> 00:53:40.542
- high school reunion. Oh, that's cool. I'm pretty happy.

00:53:47.810 --> 00:53:56.385
- I'd like to give 20 happy dollars to say thank you to all these wonderful Rotarians. So many of you

00:53:56.385 --> 00:54:04.960
- I've known for a long time now and love you all. Thank you. I have a happy dollar because I'm going

00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:11.134
- to Italy in Thursday. So it's my first international trip. Oh, awesome.

00:54:15.554 --> 00:54:24.316
- I'm actually going to give a dollar because I told Emily she needed to do a happy dollar, so. And do

00:54:24.316 --> 00:54:33.251
- we have any online? Yes, we do. We have myself. I'm going to give 18 happy dollars. We lost you. Yeah,

00:54:33.251 --> 00:54:42.186
- the host muted me and I'm a host. That's funny. 18 happy dollars for the Wonder Lab Gala. We only have

00:54:42.186 --> 00:54:44.702
- 19 seats available. Alright.

00:54:45.410 --> 00:54:52.446
- And last one. So on the theme of high school reunions, I'll go to my 55th on Saturday. Wow. All right.

00:54:52.446 --> 00:54:59.482
- So we have lots of happy people. So John, thank you for your presentation. And in honor of your topic,

00:54:59.482 --> 00:55:06.313
- we will donate $100 for the quarter to C-Jam for their efforts. So thank you. I'd like to thank all

00:55:06.313 --> 00:55:13.144
- of our volunteers today, because without you, we couldn't do the program. Greeting was Dr. Winston,

00:55:13.144 --> 00:55:15.262
- Katie for guest introductions,

00:55:15.522 --> 00:55:21.777
- Kyla for a great speaker and introduction. And then Leslie, as always, for Zoom between you and Joy.

00:55:21.777 --> 00:55:27.970
- Thank you for all that you do. Carol Ann, a perfect reflection. Sarah Laughlin, so good to have you

00:55:27.970 --> 00:55:34.039
- back and now doing reporting. God bless you. Michael Shermus doing the camera and mic, as always.

00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.702
- And Alon, I think you did the photography.

00:55:37.026 --> 00:55:43.443
- And then Jill, as always, handling the desk, and Tyler, all our audio. And we will have the screen jumping

00:55:43.443 --> 00:55:49.861
- fixed next week. We just want to keep you guys on your toes. Our next meeting will be here in the Georgian

00:55:49.861 --> 00:55:56.038
- room on the 8th. Michael Arnold will be our guest discussing public media. That should be interesting.

00:55:56.038 --> 00:56:02.155
- So please join us if you can. And with that, if you could, Tyler, put the screen up and stand for the

00:56:02.155 --> 00:56:05.214
- four-way test. Of the things we think, say, or do,

00:56:05.570 --> 00:56:12.749
- First, is it the truth? Second, is it fair to all concerned? Third, will it build goodwill and better

00:56:12.749 --> 00:56:18.590
- friendships? Fourth, will it be beneficial to all concerned? And fifth, is it fun?
