WEBVTT 00:00:00.994 --> 00:00:06.999 - Hello, welcome to Collective Action, Multisector Strategies to Build Community Protections. We are so 00:00:06.999 --> 00:00:13.181 - happy to have Stephanie Solomon, Olivia Smith, and Colleen Yeagle here to join us today. But a few quick 00:00:13.181 --> 00:00:19.186 - housekeeping items before we get started. If you need any assistance during the presentation, my name 00:00:19.186 --> 00:00:25.191 - is Cassidy. I'll be up here at the front. Ruth is also in the back waving her hand over there. If you 00:00:25.191 --> 00:00:30.960 - need anything, please feel free to flag either of us down. Your feedback will shape MC3 planning, 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:36.711 - So please fill out a session feedback form for this session. You can scan the QR code on your little 00:00:36.711 --> 00:00:42.690 - table tent there, as well as all of the resources from our sessions today. We also have paper evaluation 00:00:42.690 --> 00:00:48.385 - forms that you could fill out as well, and those should be turned in in the blue bin in the back of 00:00:48.385 --> 00:00:54.307 - the room at the end of the session. Lastly, if you are planning to receive continuing education credits 00:00:54.307 --> 00:01:00.286 - for this session, please stay until the end and mark this session on your CE tracking form as you leave. 00:01:00.286 --> 00:01:00.912 - All right. 00:01:00.912 --> 00:01:02.942 - Thank you very much for being here and I'll go ahead and pass the mic. 00:01:06.562 --> 00:01:15.796 - All right, welcome everyone. Thanks for joining us. I'm Stephanie Solomon and it's lovely to see friendly 00:01:15.796 --> 00:01:24.594 - faces. I've had the privilege of working in Monroe County for many years, but now I'm working out of 00:01:24.594 --> 00:01:33.740 - Indy with the Indiana Coalition Against Domestic Violence and love the big circle of the work that we're 00:01:33.740 --> 00:01:36.528 - gonna do today. So I wanna give 00:01:36.528 --> 00:01:44.417 - my co-presenters a minute just to introduce themselves. And then we're really gonna get to dig into 00:01:44.417 --> 00:01:52.385 - how collective action works. And these are some activities and threads that those of you who've been 00:01:52.385 --> 00:02:00.511 - to the summit in the past or were are involved with BTCC will recognize. Right, Olivia, would you like 00:02:00.511 --> 00:02:01.694 - to do a quick? 00:02:06.914 --> 00:02:13.380 - My name is Olivia Smith. I'm a policy analyst with the Indiana Community Action Poverty Institute. So 00:02:13.380 --> 00:02:19.846 - we primarily focus on research and advocacy that supports the financial well-being of low to moderate 00:02:19.846 --> 00:02:26.629 - income Hoosiers, which is a pretty big umbrella because financial well-being ties into many, many aspects. 00:02:26.629 --> 00:02:30.686 - So that's how we are crossing paths with lovely folks at ICADB. 00:02:35.938 --> 00:02:42.815 - Good morning, everyone. I'm Colleen Yackel, and I get to do evaluation for the Indiana Coalition Against 00:02:42.815 --> 00:02:49.364 - Domestic Violence. I've been there for 17 years, but prior to moving to the coalition, I was raised 00:02:49.364 --> 00:02:56.372 - here locally by Middleway House, worked for the home team for 11 years prior to going to go, hey, friends. 00:02:56.372 --> 00:03:03.118 - So very excited to be with you today and to talk about our potential impact through collective action. 00:03:03.118 --> 00:03:05.214 - And over to you for disclaimer. 00:03:06.850 --> 00:03:16.252 - OK, so in a smaller group, we would want to hear from all of you, but hopefully we'll get to connect 00:03:16.252 --> 00:03:25.654 - as we move along. But a quick disclaimer, this project is supported by an award from the Centers for 00:03:25.654 --> 00:03:36.638 - Disease and Prevention. It's called the Delta Award, but we want to be clear that the opinions and findings are ours. 00:03:36.802 --> 00:03:47.091 - Yeah, want to make sure to put that out there as we get started. All right. I love how this is like 00:03:47.091 --> 00:03:57.379 - running a relay race. Terrific. So let's see, that's not the one I want. That's the one I want. Why 00:03:57.379 --> 00:04:03.038 - is collaboration across sectors essential and awesome? 00:04:05.506 --> 00:04:15.170 - Real question, not hypothetical. We will run with a mic. Why is our collaboration critical, please? 00:04:15.170 --> 00:04:25.027 - It helps break down silos that we have within our community, and it keeps us more engaged together in 00:04:25.027 --> 00:04:33.918 - working towards that collaborative goal of helping children and families within the county. 00:04:34.082 --> 00:04:40.488 - And without that collaboration, we're all just going to keep running in circles around each other. Say 00:04:40.488 --> 00:04:46.831 - more about running around in circles without each other, please. Yeah. A lot of us end up, when we're 00:04:46.831 --> 00:04:53.050 - in our silos, we're stuck dealing with the same situations that we may not all have the answers for 00:04:53.050 --> 00:04:56.222 - individually in our organizations or as individual 00:04:56.482 --> 00:05:02.808 - people. But if we collaborate, we can use each other's resources and be available to each other in ways 00:05:02.808 --> 00:05:08.892 - that the systems don't necessarily want us to. And that's beautiful. OK. So by working together, we 00:05:08.892 --> 00:05:15.096 - can really get at the roots of the problem. Root cause issues are where it's at. Right. And it's hard 00:05:15.096 --> 00:05:21.301 - when we are so occupied and overburdened with managing the symptoms. So it's an act of intentionality 00:05:21.301 --> 00:05:26.046 - to be like, we've got to team up. Yeah. And one behind you? We have one here. 00:05:26.210 --> 00:05:36.906 - Hello? So another way is kind of further along that line, we can think further outside the box, as well 00:05:36.906 --> 00:05:45.854 - as getting community buy-in, the more we spread it around. I love that. So we can just 00:05:47.714 --> 00:05:54.174 - Catalyze one another's creativity when we work together because we have shared interests and different 00:05:54.174 --> 00:06:00.508 - perspectives. Dig it. And the idea of bringing in more community engagement and commitment. Everyone 00:06:00.508 --> 00:06:06.654 - write that down on your to-do list. It's what we need to leverage real change, right? Cool. Yeah. 00:06:07.138 --> 00:06:14.018 - Within the field of applied behavior analysis, there are specific lanes or areas which we are allowed 00:06:14.018 --> 00:06:20.763 - to work when we receive funding through insurance companies. And so understanding who is working in 00:06:20.763 --> 00:06:27.576 - the areas that we cannot work because of the structure of funding allows us to direct people towards 00:06:27.576 --> 00:06:34.456 - those who are working in the areas that we cannot or should not be working in. Okay, so it can extend 00:06:34.456 --> 00:06:35.198 - our reach. 00:06:36.098 --> 00:06:43.980 - in all kinds of ways. Yeah, I love that. What else? I was just going to say it helps eliminate duplication 00:06:43.980 --> 00:06:51.420 - of effort. So you're not doing something that someone else is doing and dividing the funding and the 00:06:51.420 --> 00:06:59.007 - human resources that are needed to do that. Right. And it's astonishing to me the degree to which that 00:06:59.007 --> 00:07:01.438 - happens when each of us is under 00:07:02.050 --> 00:07:08.739 - funded and under supported. How can we be redundant when there aren't enough of us? But if we can be 00:07:08.739 --> 00:07:15.760 - in communication to be better aligned, we can better meet the extent of the need through our insufficient 00:07:15.760 --> 00:07:18.078 - means. Love it. Anybody else? Yes. 00:07:18.210 --> 00:07:25.564 - One thing is it gives us a louder voice when we're working together. The other thing that I think is 00:07:25.564 --> 00:07:32.918 - really important is we make, when we're all divided, we are making it a full-time job to get support 00:07:32.918 --> 00:07:40.272 - from your community when you have no resources. So when we work collaboratively, we can make finding 00:07:40.272 --> 00:07:47.262 - support not a job, but really a service for the people we're trying to reach. Right. Excellent. 00:07:47.682 --> 00:07:55.652 - All good ideas, you have 100% convinced me. So what I'm wondering is, why don't we? Why don't we? And 00:07:55.652 --> 00:08:03.466 - there's some cheaty answers for you up there, but don't look. Look away. I think one of the reasons 00:08:03.466 --> 00:08:11.671 - we don't is because we're afraid. Like, if you don't know where to go and you don't know where to start, 00:08:11.671 --> 00:08:15.422 - it's really daunting to just reach out blindly. 00:08:15.842 --> 00:08:24.712 - or to put effort into something that might not go anywhere. OK. Also, on our to-do list, then, I don't 00:08:24.712 --> 00:08:33.496 - know what the right phrase is here. Not get over ourselves, because that fear is real. But stare into 00:08:33.496 --> 00:08:42.366 - it, because I think it is our obligation. Great. I think like what you said before, being understaffed 00:08:42.530 --> 00:08:52.397 - and overworked, and it seems like it's one more thing to research, investigate, and I think you mentioned 00:08:52.397 --> 00:09:01.985 - it being a job versus a service. It's hard to make space. It's hard to make space. How many of us wait 00:09:01.985 --> 00:09:10.270 - an hour too long to pee? It's hard to make space. It is an act of intentionality to say, 00:09:11.394 --> 00:09:18.775 - we can be stronger together, and I'm gonna figure out what that requires of me and how I will make space. 00:09:18.775 --> 00:09:25.947 - And I will write it into my calendar to make it so. Next to go pee. Awesome. There's not always buy-in 00:09:25.947 --> 00:09:32.980 - from the organizations that we're involved with or working under, and I think that's a big challenge 00:09:32.980 --> 00:09:39.038 - for a lot of folks here. Yeah, so part of making space is who do you need to persuade? 00:09:39.522 --> 00:09:45.931 - in order to allow yourself to have space, because otherwise you're just frustrated seeing the bigger 00:09:45.931 --> 00:09:52.468 - vision and the connections, but not being able to access them. Why else? I feel like we are constantly 00:09:52.468 --> 00:09:59.067 - being told there's not enough to go around, that the people who control the purse strings, whether it's 00:09:59.067 --> 00:10:05.413 - a boss or a state legislator, the governor, other people in power, are like, there's not enough. So 00:10:05.413 --> 00:10:06.238 - I think that 00:10:06.466 --> 00:10:12.730 - what surrounds you shapes you. And that makes you feel like you have to hoard and hold on to what you 00:10:12.730 --> 00:10:18.994 - have and be afraid to take the risk of saying, hey, can you come do this with me? Because what if you 00:10:18.994 --> 00:10:25.136 - get a slice of my very tiny piece of pie when, in fact, it's a bunch of lies? It's simply not true. 00:10:25.136 --> 00:10:31.338 - I agree. I mean, I think in a lot of ways, our silos are sort of self-imposed through organizational 00:10:31.338 --> 00:10:36.190 - habits of keeping our head down and just managing the overwhelming to-do list. 00:10:36.290 --> 00:10:44.814 - But in other ways, we are driven into those silos by funding competition, competition for the same work. 00:10:44.814 --> 00:10:53.662 - We're placed in that position every year to compete with our friends and to smooch the bottoms of people who 00:10:53.794 --> 00:11:00.072 - probably have different interests than us. It's a very strange structure that we're operating under. 00:11:00.072 --> 00:11:06.351 - So I think thinking very clearly about how we are pressured into silos through scarcity and again to 00:11:06.351 --> 00:11:12.878 - face the fear and think about how will I make space to make this possible. Yeah, over there. A new thing 00:11:12.878 --> 00:11:16.670 - that I recently heard was avoiding healthy conflict. So like 00:11:16.770 --> 00:11:22.639 - not wanting to partner with someone because you do the same kind of work. And so thinking that yours 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:28.451 - is going to be conflict if you come together because you're competing for funding, but your purpose 00:11:28.451 --> 00:11:34.494 - aligns. And so you're avoiding conflict, but in the end, your impact would be greater. So just avoiding 00:11:34.494 --> 00:11:39.550 - that healthy conflict in the beginning could stop you from connecting with them. Yeah. 00:11:40.802 --> 00:11:47.591 - Yeah, putting that also in the bucket of get over our lovely, wonderful selves and make space for trust, 00:11:47.591 --> 00:11:54.057 - for greater growth, for collaboration. Yeah. Just a quick comment. My name is Marcus Whitehead. I'm 00:11:54.057 --> 00:12:00.781 - the program director at the Community Foundation in Bloomington Monroe County. When you started talking 00:12:00.781 --> 00:12:05.630 - about funding, are there any other funders in the room? Am I the only one? 00:12:07.010 --> 00:12:14.709 - For us, oftentimes when we have a competitive grant cycle, one of the things that gives a proposal a 00:12:14.709 --> 00:12:22.714 - leg up is if it is a collaborative effort. That's something we like to just kind of encourage the spirit 00:12:22.714 --> 00:12:30.718 - of collaboration. So when we get a proposal, it just makes sense for these entities to come together and 00:12:30.850 --> 00:12:37.441 - provide solutions. That's actually something that we find very appealing with a proposal when it makes 00:12:37.441 --> 00:12:44.096 - sense and it's done well. So I just thought it might be worth mentioning that. I appreciate that deeply 00:12:44.096 --> 00:12:50.879 - and I think it is most impactful when all the collaborators are funded. Otherwise we are working together 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:57.790 - but we're still in ways facing economic scarcity and competition. I think also to recognize that nonprofits 00:12:57.790 --> 00:12:59.390 - are constantly sprinting 00:12:59.522 --> 00:13:06.926 - I mean, we have so many one year grants that means we're always getting started and it's really hard 00:13:06.926 --> 00:13:14.476 - to not always feel like you're checking your rear view to see what's coming up. It's hard to do longer 00:13:14.476 --> 00:13:21.806 - term planning and collaboration when you're running a relay every year. Yeah. Coalition building is 00:13:21.806 --> 00:13:24.958 - energy intensive and coming up with common 00:13:25.250 --> 00:13:35.220 - goals and understanding between all of the partners is, again, it's labor intensive, and most of us 00:13:35.220 --> 00:13:45.488 - are burned out, if not just exhausted. So it's being able to see that long-term need that's being met, 00:13:45.488 --> 00:13:52.766 - being able to identify it, pull people together around that common need, 00:13:53.218 --> 00:14:01.856 - or value, whichever you prefer, and keep people engaged and help them see the big picture and the big 00:14:01.856 --> 00:14:10.494 - goal. Right, and I think that is also a strategy for making space to do that work up front to help us 00:14:10.494 --> 00:14:18.878 - see we have distinct expertise and experience and perspectives and work, but we have common values 00:14:19.746 --> 00:14:26.244 - and we share a common goal when we think about root causes. So getting on a page around that to help 00:14:26.244 --> 00:14:32.807 - people understand why they're making the investment, I think will fuel them in making it. And I think 00:14:32.807 --> 00:14:39.305 - also sharing that conversation with your community stakeholders to help them connect the dots and to 00:14:39.305 --> 00:14:43.230 - support your work. Any other reasons why we're not doing it? 00:14:46.690 --> 00:14:52.521 - Here are a few that occurred to us. So we talked about limited resources and competition. Turnover makes 00:14:52.521 --> 00:14:58.129 - it really hard to stay on the same page. Even if you establish the same page, there are new friendly 00:14:58.129 --> 00:15:03.737 - faces in the room every six months, three. So it's hard to feel like you're ever really getting your 00:15:03.737 --> 00:15:07.902 - feet and running together when you always feel like you're trying to grow. 00:15:08.962 --> 00:15:14.705 - So I've sat on coalitions for 28 years, and I think for a whole lot of them, I felt like I 00:15:14.705 --> 00:15:21.268 - was a collaborator. But what I was doing was just being an ally, nodding and smiling and saying, I care 00:15:21.268 --> 00:15:27.705 - about your work. We thought about it as, I support your work, you support my work. And what I want us 00:15:27.705 --> 00:15:34.331 - to think about in terms of collaboration is seeing it as our work and how we can align around our common 00:15:34.331 --> 00:15:36.414 - interests, around root problems. 00:15:36.514 --> 00:15:43.333 - Does that make sense? So collaboration doesn't mean nodding and smiling and caring about each other. 00:15:43.333 --> 00:15:49.342 - It means what do we do together for our mutual benefit? You want to talk about the rest? 00:15:55.202 --> 00:16:02.532 - We all have things to say about this. Yeah, so we were thinking these things that get in our way. And 00:16:02.532 --> 00:16:09.718 - I know that people in the room have that experience of, oh, we're sharing resources. We meet once a 00:16:09.718 --> 00:16:17.120 - month. We're collaborating. We're building relationships. But what does it take to take that next step 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:18.270 - and really act? 00:16:18.498 --> 00:16:27.015 - together within our shared interests. So we've been thinking about what it takes to address those barriers. 00:16:27.015 --> 00:16:34.979 - And one of the early things that BTCC did was bring in strategic doing. And we're not actively using 00:16:34.979 --> 00:16:43.102 - that, but I think a few of those principles of really holding ourselves accountable when we're members 00:16:43.102 --> 00:16:48.464 - of coalitions, which is really challenging, to what are we doing to 00:16:48.464 --> 00:16:57.377 - act on the shared interests that we have. And knowing that it is fragile because of all of the reasons 00:16:57.377 --> 00:17:06.031 - that we brought up, the turnover, and that we have to really have an intentional focus on how we're 00:17:06.031 --> 00:17:14.857 - going to act together, even when it's hard. So going back to that conflict aversion that we can have, 00:17:14.857 --> 00:17:17.886 - pushing past that and knowing that 00:17:17.986 --> 00:17:27.258 - If we're collaborating well, we're not gonna agree on everything. We're gonna have different organizational 00:17:27.258 --> 00:17:36.015 - norms, different interpersonal norms, but really being able to address those and be intentional about 00:17:36.015 --> 00:17:45.630 - how we can build power together. Say, I'm much newer to this work, and I feel like Colleen and Solomon are just 00:17:46.562 --> 00:17:52.640 - fantastic collaborators, and I'm just kind of trying my best to be a good collaborator and learn and 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:58.958 - internalize these things. But I just feel like the meetings that we've had together, it's so nice. We've 00:17:58.958 --> 00:18:05.096 - definitely all had meetings that could have been an email, or meetings that felt like, well, that was 00:18:05.096 --> 00:18:11.595 - nice to see everybody, but nothing has changed, and there goes two hours. And it's really hard to quantify, 00:18:11.595 --> 00:18:15.326 - well, what do you do differently? How can we not repeat this? 00:18:15.458 --> 00:18:23.141 - And I think for me, not thinking about it as your work, my work, our work was really transformative, 00:18:23.141 --> 00:18:30.899 - especially when, as we will see, there are just so many shared interests that most of us already have 00:18:30.899 --> 00:18:38.582 - that if we can dig just a little bit and find those and connect over those, it's been pretty amazing 00:18:38.582 --> 00:18:43.070 - to see kind of the cross-collaboration between groups that 00:18:43.170 --> 00:18:49.432 - I wouldn't have necessarily thought would have a lot in common or have the same goals. So I also have 00:18:49.432 --> 00:18:55.693 - a background in state government. So you want to talk about siloing and barriers to collaboration. Oh 00:18:55.693 --> 00:19:02.016 - my goodness. Yeah, that's kind of the administrative design of government. And so I think it does take 00:19:02.016 --> 00:19:08.585 - a lot of effort and intentionality to create those spaces. So I just feel like I got to give kudos because 00:19:08.585 --> 00:19:11.102 - Solomon and Colleen are fantastic at it. 00:19:14.242 --> 00:19:22.429 - a little kudos in there that applies to a lot of folks in these rooms as well. When we're at the State 00:19:22.429 --> 00:19:30.378 - House, our role is really educating and informing on why things like paid leave are beneficial. And 00:19:30.378 --> 00:19:38.644 - we've gotten to work with mentors who've really dug in. Colleen and Erin Macy have been doing this work 00:19:38.644 --> 00:19:44.208 - a long time. And Olivia and I have had the benefit of really learning 00:19:44.208 --> 00:19:52.954 - learning from them about how can we be working on this long-term goal. If you were in the last session, 00:19:52.954 --> 00:20:01.699 - Colleen talked about how long we've been working on paid leave in Indiana and what does it mean to stay 00:20:01.699 --> 00:20:11.454 - focused and continue to intentionally work together. So I think that is part of how we work intentionally together. 00:20:17.602 --> 00:20:28.838 - Okay, have we convinced you? I want to go the other way. Now I've ruined everything. So what I want 00:20:28.838 --> 00:20:31.422 - to do is to invite you 00:20:31.938 --> 00:20:39.496 - lovingly, urgingly to stand. And we would like to do an activity that we created to help really explain 00:20:39.496 --> 00:20:47.054 - in concrete ways to multi-sectoral community members why our collaboration can be so impactful. So here 00:20:47.054 --> 00:20:54.539 - at the front of the room, three of the tables have crazy looking piles of colored spaghetti. If we can 00:20:54.539 --> 00:21:00.062 - get nine people to stand around each of those tables, I'll be well pleased. 00:21:00.962 --> 00:21:24.727 - I'll give you a moment to relocate yourselves. Nine people around each table. How are we doing? Do we 00:21:24.727 --> 00:21:28.222 - have nine? OK. 00:21:29.474 --> 00:21:36.449 - What is happening next is, so you all don't get to play the game, but I want your moral support, badly, 00:21:36.449 --> 00:21:43.291 - and I want you to witness it and make observations so we can get your feedback at the end too, but if 00:21:43.291 --> 00:21:50.266 - you can just kind of crowd round and see what's going on, that'd be terrific. Okay, so what we're gonna 00:21:50.266 --> 00:21:56.638 - do now is hand out to you, to each of you, are going to get a social or public health problem, 00:21:57.090 --> 00:22:02.398 - that you are working passionately to prevent and eliminate, okay? So we're gonna pass those out. 00:22:40.226 --> 00:22:47.397 - Over here. Come on in. Okay. Does everyone have a public health problem ready to go? They all do at 00:22:47.397 --> 00:22:54.784 - this table. Way to go, Sullivan. I'm very good at my job. I feel like you wanted to star there. It was 00:22:54.784 --> 00:23:02.099 - in your voice. Can I ask you please, I'm going to pass around the mic, can you read the public health 00:23:02.099 --> 00:23:09.342 - problem that you're working on so we all know the work that we're working to address as a community? 00:23:10.882 --> 00:23:20.691 - Suicide. Sexual violence. Intimate partner violence. Substance abuse. Youth violence. Mental health. 00:23:20.691 --> 00:23:30.597 - Cardiovascular disease. Homelessness. Child abuse. Excellent, thank you very much. Now if you look on 00:23:30.597 --> 00:23:38.270 - the back of your public health problem, you're going to have a very brief list 00:23:38.530 --> 00:23:45.050 - of risk and protective factors associated with that public health problem, okay? Risk and protective 00:23:45.050 --> 00:23:51.634 - factors are the building blocks of what surrounds us, shapes us. So in your community, you know these 00:23:51.634 --> 00:23:58.347 - are just a sample of risk and protective factors related to your public health problem. Now if you look 00:23:58.347 --> 00:24:04.931 - down at your table, you're gonna see those risk and protective factors. And what I'm gonna ask you to 00:24:04.931 --> 00:24:08.094 - do is grab a spaghetti thread that's attached to 00:24:08.322 --> 00:24:19.107 - the risk of protective factors associated to your public health problem. Does that make sense? So just 00:24:19.107 --> 00:24:29.893 - dive in there, help each other get the threads that you need. It will get tangly and that's A-OK. Yep, 00:24:29.893 --> 00:24:38.270 - yep. So you wanna grab a string for each of the factors listed on your problem. 00:25:22.882 --> 00:25:28.766 - What are we doing? Is it unfolding? Need another minute. 00:26:03.586 --> 00:26:11.309 - You're not. It's OK if it's tangled. If you can't find one of your risk or protective factors, you can 00:26:11.309 --> 00:26:18.956 - kind of just hold on to the person next to you who shares that factor. And when we have them all, I'm 00:26:18.956 --> 00:26:26.454 - going to ask you to take a couple of steps back to expand your web. All right. Let's get some video 00:26:26.454 --> 00:26:33.502 - action on that. OK. Fabulous. OK. Now I want to invite you to look around your web and notice 00:26:34.178 --> 00:26:42.314 - Who are you connected to? What public health problems are you connected to through a shared risk or 00:26:42.314 --> 00:26:50.449 - protective factor? Right, when you see these common connections where you're sharing a same colored 00:26:50.449 --> 00:26:58.666 - thread, this is someone you could work with and that risk or protective factor is something that you 00:26:58.666 --> 00:27:01.758 - could collaborate on together, right? 00:27:03.490 --> 00:27:16.447 - Do any of the connections that you see surprise you? What are your thoughts? Yeah. So I have suicide, 00:27:16.447 --> 00:27:29.911 - and I don't have a connection to protective factor of safe and accessible neighborhoods and green spaces. 00:27:29.911 --> 00:27:33.214 - And I think green spaces, 00:27:33.410 --> 00:27:40.155 - probably have some connection to prevention of suicide. So this activity is based on a lit review that 00:27:40.155 --> 00:27:47.031 - we did a little bit ago. So it was based on the existing literature. But you will see, you have suicide, 00:27:47.031 --> 00:27:53.777 - and you don't have safe and accessible green space. But your friend Donna, who is doing mental health, 00:27:53.777 --> 00:28:00.391 - critically related to suicide, does have that threat. So I think for you to argue, I'm in. I'm in on 00:28:00.391 --> 00:28:02.814 - your green space work. I'm with you. 00:28:03.394 --> 00:28:13.518 - Anybody else? Any connections that you're like, huh, I wouldn't have thunk? Yeah. Coming about. I have 00:28:13.518 --> 00:28:23.641 - the exact same connections as homelessness, and I have substance abuse. The same exact ones. Does this 00:28:23.641 --> 00:28:29.342 - surprise us? It doesn't surprise us, but it's sad. Right. 00:28:30.594 --> 00:28:40.440 - But sometimes this is both revelatory and a whole lot of duh. Like, yeah, yeah, obviously. Anybody else? 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:50.474 - Any connections surprise you? I'm surprised that my child abuse is not connected in any way with substance 00:28:50.474 --> 00:29:00.414 - abuse or in a very limited way. That surprises me. Me too. Me too. And so I suspect, again, that was just 00:29:00.866 --> 00:29:08.449 - something that hadn't been studied in the lit review at the time that we put together this activity. 00:29:08.449 --> 00:29:16.182 - But again, I think you're right, and we can make that case. Yeah. Yeah. I have youth violence, and I'm 00:29:16.182 --> 00:29:23.764 - a little surprised that I have every one of them. Why are you surprised by that? I guess not really, 00:29:23.764 --> 00:29:29.470 - but I think it was that. It's glaring in my face. All of them. All of them. 00:29:31.042 --> 00:29:38.385 - Great. Anybody else? Yeah. So I have cardiovascular disease and I just find it sort of interesting that 00:29:38.385 --> 00:29:45.516 - I'm labeled in this way amongst the crowd of other things because it's more like a physical ailment. 00:29:45.516 --> 00:29:52.858 - And so it feels like it kind of belongs in a different category, but it of course makes sense that it's 00:29:52.858 --> 00:30:00.766 - related in terms of like resourcing to all of these other categories. And so I think that that's something that 00:30:01.442 --> 00:30:08.724 - It's just kind of interesting to point out in this idea that you think maybe if you're addressing sexual 00:30:08.724 --> 00:30:15.659 - violence or suicide or homelessness, that you're only addressing certain subsets of the population. 00:30:15.659 --> 00:30:22.593 - But really, you're also then addressing other larger needs of the whole community with other issues 00:30:22.593 --> 00:30:29.598 - related to things beyond what it is that you think you're addressing. Thank you so much. That is the 00:30:29.598 --> 00:30:31.262 - entire why of the game. 00:30:32.066 --> 00:30:37.893 - Right, because it might not surprise you to be sitting in a community coalition where you have pretty 00:30:37.893 --> 00:30:43.892 - regular obvious allies if you're working on preventing child abuse. It makes sense for you to be friends 00:30:43.892 --> 00:30:49.834 - with the youth violence people and the domestic violence people. But you need the cardiovascular health 00:30:49.834 --> 00:30:55.547 - people too. You have a different outcome but a shared common interest if we think about the drivers 00:30:55.547 --> 00:31:01.374 - of the problem. And I think the cardiovascular health people might have different pockets than we do. 00:31:02.690 --> 00:31:09.498 - So we want their help, right? Over there? It's reminding me a lot, if you're familiar with UDL, or Universal 00:31:09.498 --> 00:31:15.743 - Design for Learning, so kind of special education world, is if you make accommodations for a subset 00:31:15.743 --> 00:31:22.176 - of people, it's actually going to help everybody. So thinking about prevention from that same approach 00:31:22.176 --> 00:31:28.547 - is like, we may not be aligned to work with these certain topics, or that may not be our passion. But 00:31:28.547 --> 00:31:30.046 - if we can do something, 00:31:30.722 --> 00:31:36.801 - one of these protective factors specifically, it's going to help most people or the general population 00:31:36.801 --> 00:31:42.939 - as well. Perfect. So underline that, highlight it, because we have to remember the barrier slide. Those 00:31:42.939 --> 00:31:49.077 - things are going to push us back into our silos and make it harder for us to see universal design helps 00:31:49.077 --> 00:31:55.038 - all of us. And therefore, I'm going to invest outside of my immediate to-do list in silo. Were there 00:31:55.038 --> 00:31:57.694 - any other thoughts or are we ready to pivot? 00:32:03.938 --> 00:32:11.394 - just comment that adverse childhood experiences, which we talked about in the earlier session, is connected 00:32:11.394 --> 00:32:18.435 - to all of these, every single one of them. And I think it's pretty clear, you know, if you understand 00:32:18.435 --> 00:32:25.822 - ACEs, why that is. Yes, thank you. I'm conscious that your arms are getting weary, so let's work together. 00:32:26.434 --> 00:32:31.924 - You are all part of a community, part of a community collaboration, and you make the investment, you 00:32:31.924 --> 00:32:37.741 - make the space, and you decide that we're gonna step outside of our silo, we're gonna collaborate together 00:32:37.741 --> 00:32:43.449 - and take on one of our shared risk and protective factors, okay? So the first thing that feels available 00:32:43.449 --> 00:32:48.830 - to you, you've got a little money, you've got community support, is increasing safe and accessible 00:32:48.830 --> 00:32:53.886 - neighborhoods in green space, okay? So if you are currently holding a green thread, drop it. 00:32:59.810 --> 00:33:07.691 - Okay, that went well. Everyone is enjoying the new park and garden. So you decide, it makes sense now, 00:33:07.691 --> 00:33:15.573 - because we have this new space that brings people together in equitable and engaging ways, that we are 00:33:15.573 --> 00:33:22.689 - gonna take on community support and connectedness. So if you're holding a light blue string, 00:33:22.689 --> 00:33:28.734 - please drop it. I want you to think about that light blue string for a minute. 00:33:28.962 --> 00:33:36.315 - Because I think people often think that community connectedness is just kind of squidgy hallmark, good 00:33:36.315 --> 00:33:43.525 - things for people. But if you look around, every single one of you had it. It is a superpower. It is 00:33:43.525 --> 00:33:50.949 - connected to everything. If we're having struggle, being connected enables us to reach out for support. 00:33:50.949 --> 00:33:57.374 - And if we're blowing it, it makes it easier for the people who care about us to check us. 00:33:58.242 --> 00:34:07.591 - So community support and connection is a superpower. Huzzah. OK. That went so well we liked it. We were 00:34:07.591 --> 00:34:16.941 - into it. So we decide while we have fostered community support and connectedness, let's get after those 00:34:16.941 --> 00:34:26.110 - norms that support aggression towards others. So if you're holding red or hot pink, drop it. Love it. 00:34:27.618 --> 00:34:34.918 - And then we think about where places that norms that tolerate aggression towards others are fomented, 00:34:34.918 --> 00:34:42.433 - see a lot of that being raised up in school and in political environments. So we decide that we're going 00:34:42.433 --> 00:34:49.733 - to take on, what is that dark purple one? School and school connectedness and educational attainment. 00:34:49.733 --> 00:34:53.598 - So if you're holding dark purple, please drop it. OK. 00:34:54.242 --> 00:35:04.340 - As a community, you've done so many good things, you decide that you're going to take on the big mammer 00:35:04.340 --> 00:35:14.728 - jammer. So if you're holding a yellow thread for poverty, go ahead and drop it. OK. Feelings, reflections. 00:35:14.728 --> 00:35:19.486 - Way to go. Job done. It's before noon. Thoughts? 00:35:31.010 --> 00:35:41.211 - Homelessness seems to be pervasive, and it gets so much money and attention. And I feel like some of 00:35:41.211 --> 00:35:52.219 - these other categories are more important, but early childhood education and trauma prevention for children, 00:35:52.219 --> 00:35:59.390 - just a thought that homelessness, well, it's important too, obviously. 00:35:59.650 --> 00:36:05.351 - One of the strongest protective factors, preventive factors for adult homelessness is school connectedness 00:36:05.351 --> 00:36:10.679 - for children. It's all connected, right? And so I think seeing that, when people are thinking about 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:16.167 - homelessness prevention in their community, they're usually addressing the immediacy, the problem, not 00:36:16.167 --> 00:36:21.655 - thinking about how do people get here and what do we need to do in their early educational environment 00:36:21.655 --> 00:36:25.118 - to support their academic success and ability to earn and learn. 00:36:27.394 --> 00:36:34.243 - I guess I have a question. I'm wondering if the order with which you had us drop our strings was deliberate. 00:36:34.243 --> 00:36:40.651 - I made it up as I went. OK, thanks. I guess I think that it's really interesting that you had us drop 00:36:40.651 --> 00:36:46.934 - poverty last, because I think that we were all holding poverty. You were all holding poverty. But I 00:36:46.934 --> 00:36:53.406 - also feel like poverty is one of the hardest things to actually address. But then it's also this like, 00:36:53.602 --> 00:36:59.883 - real core underpinning and so many issues more than just the nine things that we have highlighted here. 00:36:59.883 --> 00:37:06.284 - But yet it's such a hard nut to crack. So that felt kind of symbolic. And next time you do this activity, 00:37:06.284 --> 00:37:12.564 - maybe you should be purposeful about that symbolism. Yeah. Well, I was kind of purposeful in connecting 00:37:12.564 --> 00:37:18.845 - them in my head. I think also poverty, it's a risk and protective factor. But it's also a public health 00:37:18.845 --> 00:37:21.502 - problem, right? So a lot of the other risk. 00:37:21.666 --> 00:37:28.885 - protective factors that we addressed before that are the building blocks of poverty. So they were kind 00:37:28.885 --> 00:37:35.893 - of incrementally getting a platform to enable you to work on it. And I think I also took it on last 00:37:35.893 --> 00:37:42.972 - because it's the big mammer jammer and I wanted your communities to have time to build relationships 00:37:42.972 --> 00:37:49.630 - and practice and experience before you took in the real headwinds. Yeah. You've just said that 00:37:49.890 --> 00:38:00.443 - poverty is a public health problem. And public health departments cannot change poverty. In fact, it's 00:38:00.443 --> 00:38:10.893 - one of the most impoverished of departments in our government. So it's kind of like chasing the tail. 00:38:10.893 --> 00:38:18.782 - And if indeed we're calling it a public health problem, how would you expect 00:38:19.330 --> 00:38:26.969 - public health to address poverty? Well, me calling it a public health problem was the world according 00:38:26.969 --> 00:38:34.608 - to Colleen. I think it is. And it doesn't necessarily translate that it's your responsibility to take 00:38:34.608 --> 00:38:39.326 - it on. I think to name it and to ask legislators to take it on 00:38:39.426 --> 00:38:46.488 - Yes. And for the community to say this is a risk factor for all of the things that cost us, that are 00:38:46.488 --> 00:38:53.759 - bad for our children, for our families, for our public health and our public safety. To say all of that 00:38:53.759 --> 00:39:00.751 - is our role, I think. Is that helpful? OK. Yeah. This isn't a fully formed thought. So it's kind of 00:39:00.751 --> 00:39:06.974 - a noodle, OK? Thanks for sharing it with all of us. Sure. No problem. Let's work it out. 00:39:07.074 --> 00:39:13.257 - So it's actually kind of a good, thank you for, you gave me a little segue. So when I think about poverty, 00:39:13.257 --> 00:39:19.036 - it's a giant problem. And if I'm going to run a campaign, I have to do an issue cut. And that issue 00:39:19.036 --> 00:39:24.989 - cut, like if I'm going to organize a group of people to tackle something that I think is going to like 00:39:24.989 --> 00:39:30.768 - lead me on the pathway to chipping away at the giant problem of poverty. I can't, we can't say like 00:39:30.768 --> 00:39:35.102 - we're going to run a campaign and end poverty. That's not going to happen. 00:39:35.874 --> 00:39:45.018 - But we could do an issue cut that addresses some of the pieces of it. So I feel like this exercise challenges 00:39:45.018 --> 00:39:53.580 - me, I'll just speak for myself, to hold the big picture while trying to figure out what are the pieces 00:39:53.580 --> 00:40:01.726 - and slices that can be done. That's just what I'm noodling on. I love that, and I'm an evaluator. 00:40:01.954 --> 00:40:07.703 - So I have strange interests. But I also love a logic model and an easy one, a translatable one, a beautiful 00:40:07.703 --> 00:40:13.026 - one, a clear one, so that when you are doing an issue cut, you can say to your stakeholders, here's 00:40:13.026 --> 00:40:18.402 - why I'm working on this child tax credit or paid family leave, and here's the bigger picture that we 00:40:18.402 --> 00:40:20.638 - are building together. Let's go, friends. 00:40:30.786 --> 00:40:37.629 - Also, as I'm looking at all these protective factors, each of these eliminated reduces the amount of 00:40:37.629 --> 00:40:44.676 - poverty. Because community connectedness, if you have to go to the ER and you have kids, you could face 00:40:44.676 --> 00:40:51.587 - getting the kids taken away. And then you get further down into the hole, stuff like that. Education, 00:40:51.587 --> 00:40:58.566 - it depends on your tax bracket, where you are. That is just like a symptom of poverty. It's like these 00:40:58.566 --> 00:40:59.582 - are the steps. 00:40:59.778 --> 00:41:07.482 - to take away big parts of poverty, things that I've personally experienced. And having a culture and 00:41:07.482 --> 00:41:15.415 - people who support you and community and support and people who have your back, you don't have to worry 00:41:15.415 --> 00:41:23.119 - about, oh, well, I'm not going to eat. Because my neighbor knows how to garden. Or my neighbor works 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:27.390 - at this place and gets a discount. And just connection. 00:41:27.810 --> 00:41:36.246 - And poverty are so close together. And I just see them all tangled up with poverty. It's so huge. Yeah. 00:41:36.246 --> 00:41:44.925 - I agree. It's impossible to disentangle a lot of these from each other. They travel in packs. Risk factors 00:41:44.925 --> 00:41:50.846 - and protective factors travel in packs. It's really hard to disentangle. 00:41:51.042 --> 00:41:56.637 - We originally wrote this game, my colleague Marie wrote this game in 2014. So we just did a refresh 00:41:56.637 --> 00:42:02.567 - last year and updated our risk and protective factors and the issues that we're working on. And we really 00:42:02.567 --> 00:42:08.162 - wanted to think about where to put racism. Or like is it a risk factor on the table? Is it a public 00:42:08.162 --> 00:42:13.924 - health problem we wear around our neck? And we just found we couldn't disentangle it. There was no way 00:42:13.924 --> 00:42:20.190 - to say it was isolated to one of the problems or its impacts were isolated. So instead we thought about getting 00:42:21.218 --> 00:42:27.279 - So this is part of a toy box of games that we use. It's a giant binder, and we mail them all over the 00:42:27.279 --> 00:42:33.637 - world. So I have to figure out how to make these things pretty small. So we're like, how do we add racism, 00:42:33.637 --> 00:42:39.816 - we thought, just to put together a shroud to throw over the net when you're all holding it, to say this 00:42:39.816 --> 00:42:46.055 - is the impact of racism, because it translates across all of the things. So thanks for that observation. 00:42:46.055 --> 00:42:47.838 - Anybody else? I was thinking, 00:42:51.042 --> 00:42:59.470 - Oh, sorry. In response to what you said and also just sort of making it into more of a pasta salad situation, 00:42:59.470 --> 00:43:07.285 - because that's what I see the whole thing being, is that as you were saying, all these things lead up 00:43:07.285 --> 00:43:15.177 - to poverty. That poverty leads to all these things, but all these issues also lead up to it. It's like 00:43:15.177 --> 00:43:19.774 - an infinity symbol. It is the figure eight that's going on. 00:43:19.874 --> 00:43:26.675 - And I feel like it's important to work at both ends. Yeah, it's necessary. It's critical to work at 00:43:26.675 --> 00:43:33.476 - both ends. But I'm going to steal pasta salad, Donna. I'm using that in the future, credit you. And 00:43:33.476 --> 00:43:40.277 - that is our point. Because it's all interconnected, when you dropped a thread, how did it feel? Ah, 00:43:40.277 --> 00:43:46.942 - lighter? Did it feel different when you didn't drop a thread but other people did in your circle? 00:43:48.034 --> 00:43:54.032 - Still lighter, right, because it's a pasta salad. Excellent. Thank you so much for playing, and God 00:43:54.032 --> 00:44:00.089 - love you for cleaning up. Look, no one's ever done that before. At the end of the day, I'm like, oh, 00:44:00.089 --> 00:44:06.147 - the madness. So if you want to take off your public health problems and just drop them in the middle 00:44:06.147 --> 00:44:09.086 - of the table, we can all return to regular life. 00:44:25.890 --> 00:44:34.638 - Well, as you take your seats, I want to endorse the world, according to Colleen, in poverty as a public 00:44:34.638 --> 00:44:43.218 - health problem. I know I see some of my public health friends out there. And I think of public health 00:44:43.218 --> 00:44:51.630 - as any time that a risk or protective factor is impacting community level, population level health. 00:44:51.630 --> 00:44:54.238 - And so that's where sometimes, 00:44:54.594 --> 00:45:03.018 - Yeah, there's some good arguments for why public health, definitely good arguments for why we need to 00:45:03.018 --> 00:45:11.938 - invest in public health, but also why public health approaches are so exciting to us in terms of addressing 00:45:11.938 --> 00:45:16.894 - multiple forms of social problems. So we want to highlight. 00:45:17.058 --> 00:45:26.229 - one of the most exciting collaborations that we've gotten to do. And I'm going to turn it over to Olivia. 00:45:26.229 --> 00:45:35.054 - All right. So I just joined my organization, the Indiana Community Action Poverty Institute, a little 00:45:35.054 --> 00:45:44.830 - over a year ago. And when I joined, it was pretty expressly through grant funding to work on advancing basically 00:45:45.218 --> 00:45:52.128 - positive outcomes for young children in the zero to three range, specifically through tax supports, 00:45:52.128 --> 00:45:59.245 - financial supports. And so we were really interested in pursuing some kind of child tax credit policy. 00:45:59.245 --> 00:46:06.569 - As Solomon's already talked about, my boss and Colleen go way back on paid family medical leave advocacy. 00:46:06.569 --> 00:46:09.886 - And so together, we were really able to combine 00:46:10.114 --> 00:46:17.313 - the amazing evaluation that Colleen did on the state's paid family leave program to give us, you know, 00:46:17.313 --> 00:46:24.303 - Indiana specific inside state government employees that are using this benefit, supervisors who are 00:46:24.303 --> 00:46:31.432 - talking about how fantastic it is for morale, for recruitment, for productivity. Families get to talk 00:46:31.432 --> 00:46:35.486 - about how it's fantastic for, you know, child bonding and 00:46:35.810 --> 00:46:41.663 - financial security and loyalty to your job and all sorts of these wonderful benefits. But then it's 00:46:41.663 --> 00:46:47.634 - a matter of, like we've talked about, how do you, you know, we know this information is out there and 00:46:47.634 --> 00:46:53.663 - especially when we can get really good focused work, how do you get that into the hands of people that 00:46:53.663 --> 00:46:59.692 - make those decisions? How do you make this persuasive? And so, you know, a lot of times as an advocate 00:46:59.692 --> 00:47:05.662 - trying to make this case, you know, I have to mention the data from California and nobody likes that. 00:47:05.858 --> 00:47:12.888 - And so this has been kind of a game changer when we're having these conversations with lawmakers, because 00:47:12.888 --> 00:47:19.652 - we can say, hey, we've collaborated with ICADD. They have this wonderful evaluation. You want to talk 00:47:19.652 --> 00:47:26.483 - about ROI? We can talk about ROI. You want to talk about benefits to business? We can talk about those 00:47:26.483 --> 00:47:33.314 - things. So I think it's just been kind of a game changer in how even we are received, and we can bring 00:47:33.314 --> 00:47:35.038 - that to the conversation. 00:47:35.234 --> 00:47:40.880 - But then even more in our larger kind of campaign, when we did this Babies in the Budget press conference 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:46.314 - at the start of session, it was just a really nice show of force among a lot of different groups. And 00:47:46.314 --> 00:47:51.640 - I think the term that we heard a few different times was like, oh, like kind of strange bedfellows. 00:47:51.640 --> 00:47:56.967 - But that also says something to your audience when like, well, wait a minute. These people, I don't 00:47:56.967 --> 00:48:02.294 - necessarily think of them in the same bucket, but if all 10 of them are here to say that we need to 00:48:02.294 --> 00:48:04.158 - support babies and young families, 00:48:04.514 --> 00:48:10.292 - maybe there's something to this. So I think in addition to collaborating with the people that are very 00:48:10.292 --> 00:48:16.182 - like-minded, if you can find some of those common risk or protective factors in groups, especially where 00:48:16.182 --> 00:48:22.128 - you don't have as much overlap, and bring them all to the table, like we're talking about cardiovascular, 00:48:22.128 --> 00:48:28.018 - that can go a long way. So we did this wonderful press conference, and another kind of really nice thing 00:48:28.018 --> 00:48:30.206 - from that is we were able to highlight 00:48:30.530 --> 00:48:36.367 - a bipartisan paid family medical leave bill that was also introduced. So that's the first time that 00:48:36.367 --> 00:48:42.379 - they had a bipartisan paid family medical leave bill in the state house. So we were really happy about 00:48:42.379 --> 00:48:48.390 - that. And then also a newborn tax credit. So that would have given $500 to parents the first time that 00:48:48.390 --> 00:48:54.344 - they claim their child on their taxes. So it would work either through birth or adoption. And both of 00:48:54.344 --> 00:49:00.414 - those, we were highlighted. We were standing side by side with ICADV. We were standing with United Way. 00:49:00.706 --> 00:49:06.187 - with Lafayette Urban Ministries and also pediatricians and bringing in that public health angle and 00:49:06.187 --> 00:49:11.887 - talking about one doctor saying how $500, that could be a safe sleep crib. That could be life changing, 00:49:11.887 --> 00:49:17.533 - that could be life saving, because I think also sometimes we get pushback, or especially when we think 00:49:17.533 --> 00:49:23.014 - about programs, they're like, well, what is this really going to do? Is that really going to make a 00:49:23.014 --> 00:49:27.070 - difference? And I feel like that's something we really run into a lot is, 00:49:27.330 --> 00:49:33.208 - OK, well, I guess you all kind of care about this. What's the big deal? And so being able to have such 00:49:33.208 --> 00:49:39.315 - a wide variety of voices saying, this is important for public health. This is important for our workforce. 00:49:39.315 --> 00:49:45.136 - This is important for mothers. This is important for mental health. The more voices that we were able 00:49:45.136 --> 00:49:51.015 - to bring up there, I just felt like the message resonated that much more strongly. So it's been really 00:49:51.015 --> 00:49:56.094 - wonderful also. I've been working with Solomon the past few months on health narratives. 00:49:56.290 --> 00:50:02.767 - She's kind of kicked off this think tank within our Delta team that she was talking about where we're 00:50:02.767 --> 00:50:09.307 - trying to really come up with timely ways to respond to a lot of these pushbacks as well. It is really 00:50:09.307 --> 00:50:15.783 - difficult when you're trying to connect with someone over a value or you want to get on common ground 00:50:15.783 --> 00:50:22.387 - and they say something and you just go, oh, I'm not working with that narrative. That's totally counter 00:50:22.387 --> 00:50:24.990 - to either what I know or what I believe. 00:50:25.186 --> 00:50:31.298 - And so how can we either challenge some of those that lead you down to just making a lot of assumptions 00:50:31.298 --> 00:50:37.351 - or that get in people's way? So I feel like if anyone wants to geek out about dominant narratives, you 00:50:37.351 --> 00:50:43.580 - should find us after, because we're really excited about it. But I think something that Solomon mentioned 00:50:43.580 --> 00:50:49.574 - in the last presentation, too, is that we have to be very thoughtful and intentional about how we use 00:50:49.574 --> 00:50:53.982 - those narratives. I think the example I was thinking is I'm not just going 00:50:54.114 --> 00:50:59.944 - oh hey, you have a value, I'm gonna have that value too, so then we have a shared value and now we can 00:50:59.944 --> 00:51:05.944 - get along. That's not the idea. It's always about what your individual or organizational mission, vision, 00:51:05.944 --> 00:51:11.604 - your objectives, it's about finding something that's a genuine shared value, not just I'm gonna try 00:51:11.604 --> 00:51:17.264 - and squeeze myself into the shape so that we can get along. I'm not trying to say that. But when we 00:51:17.264 --> 00:51:20.094 - have to think about how dominant narratives work, 00:51:20.546 --> 00:51:26.961 - alongside what you're trying to push back against, what narratives your partners are using. I think 00:51:26.961 --> 00:51:33.632 - it's just a really cool, I just felt very honored to be part of this group during session because yeah, 00:51:33.632 --> 00:51:40.559 - it was just a wonderful example of people coming together with different resources, different perspectives, 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:47.038 - all looking at one kind of simple policy mechanism that would lead to a lot of really good outcomes. 00:51:49.346 --> 00:51:51.934 - I'm not sure what's next, so I'm gonna pass it off. 00:51:53.378 --> 00:52:02.270 - Thanks, Olivia. Yeah, and I think those of you involved with BTCC know about the dominant narrative 00:52:02.270 --> 00:52:11.429 - work. Colleen brought back dominant narrative training years ago. And it has been a really fascinating 00:52:11.429 --> 00:52:20.499 - time for us to work on how do we find the shared values that don't uplift narratives that end up then 00:52:20.499 --> 00:52:23.344 - getting in the way of our work. 00:52:23.344 --> 00:52:34.318 - Yeah, we all of us big nerds about dominant narrative some others in the crowd there too. Yeah, so we, 00:52:34.318 --> 00:52:39.326 - we talked about the barriers to collaboration. 00:52:39.522 --> 00:52:48.480 - You know, we got to dig deep and then we got to go through Netty's spaghetti and look at the reason 00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:57.438 - why it's in our best interest for us to work together on these shared risks and protections. But... 00:52:57.762 --> 00:53:07.945 - We wanted to take some time to explore collaboration. So if you know us at all, you know that activities 00:53:07.945 --> 00:53:18.030 - are going to be a big part of what we do together. And so we wanted to take some time for folks at your 00:53:18.030 --> 00:53:27.728 - tables to really explore what collaboration looks like. So we wanted to give you a chance to either 00:53:27.728 --> 00:53:35.656 - or write down or share, and maybe combine tables if you've got only a couple of people. A community 00:53:35.656 --> 00:53:43.664 - problem example. This could be one where Cassidy and Ruth are at a table and they're like, oh, we're 00:53:43.664 --> 00:53:47.390 - already working on one. Let's talk about this. 00:53:48.002 --> 00:53:58.019 - Or it could be one where you're like, you know, this has really made me think about how I want to work 00:53:58.019 --> 00:54:07.939 - on connectedness, especially across ex-provider in Monroe County. So we want to give you some time to 00:54:07.939 --> 00:54:15.038 - sit together and talk about a shared risk or protection or social issue. 00:54:15.170 --> 00:54:22.034 - and talk about where there might be room for collaboration. So I'll give you a minute to kind of resettle 00:54:22.034 --> 00:54:23.070 - as you need to. 00:54:52.738 --> 00:54:59.198 - So take some time to connect and then we'll let you know when you should choose someone ready to report out. 00:56:59.906 --> 00:57:07.901 - 11.57, you end at 12.15. So at 12.04-ish, we're gonna give you the 10, five, and one half. I just, like, 00:57:07.901 --> 00:57:16.048 - I was so in the, the neti spaghetti was so good. I was so in it that I, like, lost my track of absolutely. 00:57:16.048 --> 00:57:19.550 - That's all right. That's what we're here for. 00:57:38.978 --> 00:57:40.254 - I'll take you up on that bandwagon. 00:59:27.266 --> 00:59:33.960 - In the name of wanting to make sure to hear back from you, take about a minute, make sure you have someone 00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:40.216 - who can report out on either what you're working on or what your idea was. And then we'll have some 00:59:40.216 --> 00:59:42.718 - time for discussion and Q&A. Thank you. 01:01:33.698 --> 01:01:39.347 - So I've heard some of you are still doing introductions. So I'm going to give you more time, even though 01:01:39.347 --> 01:01:44.727 - I was rushing you. So I'm going to take my cue from you. We'll do a walk around, and we get a sense 01:01:44.727 --> 01:01:46.718 - that people already will report out. 01:02:26.434 --> 01:02:34.685 - But then when I'm off stage, it's definitely like, we're done. And so I consider this to be, you know, 01:02:34.685 --> 01:02:42.695 - I have my, what I call my low energy people. And it's like, you know, you and Dana and Tara, people 01:02:42.695 --> 01:02:47.742 - I've known for a while. I'm like, okay, that's my safe person. 01:03:37.346 --> 01:03:49.614 - OK. All right. Well, we're going to come back together whether you have something to report out or not. 01:03:49.614 --> 01:04:01.647 - I see some people finishing up. Five, four, three, two, one. All right. So I'd love to hear, is there 01:04:01.647 --> 01:04:04.478 - anyone who had a clear, 01:04:05.282 --> 01:04:17.521 - possible collaboration that maybe you hadn't thought of before this. So we have discovered that we have 01:04:17.521 --> 01:04:25.406 - a lot of intersecting interests and populations that we work with. 01:04:25.634 --> 01:04:32.612 - And there are some training opportunities that we can support each other with. There's some outreach 01:04:32.612 --> 01:04:39.729 - opportunities that we can support each other with. And it's all based off supporting folks where there 01:04:39.729 --> 01:04:46.708 - are gaps in services for different things within our community. So that's super exciting. Yay. Thank 01:04:46.708 --> 01:04:52.926 - you so much for that. All right. I see one back there as well. OK. So we talked about the 01:04:54.498 --> 01:05:01.390 - Yes, it's basically systems of care. But thinking about like we have a provider perspective, we have 01:05:01.390 --> 01:05:02.686 - like an organizing 01:05:02.818 --> 01:05:08.235 - pull the community together perspective. And then we have like other service provision as well. 01:05:08.235 --> 01:05:13.990 - So it's like, okay, so there's the pull together. So providers understand what services are available 01:05:13.990 --> 01:05:19.689 - in the community. But then the collaboration being we take it to the people and say, oh, you can ask 01:05:19.689 --> 01:05:25.558 - for that. We know where to find that. It is possible. It is available. And then it was pointed out that 01:05:25.558 --> 01:05:31.313 - that helps us recognize where the gaps are. So we're not sitting around going, well, I think somebody 01:05:31.313 --> 01:05:31.934 - does that. 01:05:32.642 --> 01:05:42.582 - or not, or on either side, and that that makes it easier than to make change. Yeah. Hearing those gaps 01:05:42.582 --> 01:05:52.522 - come up, and then working in this field for the years that I have been, I think it's been this endless 01:05:52.522 --> 01:05:56.382 - work to keep track of who's doing what. 01:05:56.802 --> 01:06:05.508 - and then where there are possibilities. So there's the part that's about connecting folks with resources, 01:06:05.508 --> 01:06:14.459 - but then there's the bigger picture work of when we're talking about addressing shared risk and protections. 01:06:14.459 --> 01:06:23.411 - And so, yeah, I like the identification of the gaps, but then also the how do we move beyond just connecting 01:06:23.411 --> 01:06:25.054 - resources, but then 01:06:25.154 --> 01:06:35.105 - these bigger actions that allow us to impact multiple social problems. Anything else in the room that 01:06:35.105 --> 01:06:45.348 - came up? Oh, yes. We're going to heal poverty. So we want to reach out to the faith community and create 01:06:45.348 --> 01:06:55.006 - a larger coalition of spiritual collaborators to try and help people really go back to core values 01:06:55.234 --> 01:07:03.560 - that may help us to begin to address poverty at a root level. I love that. Yeah, I love that. New ideas, 01:07:03.560 --> 01:07:11.569 - big ideas of what's missing and how can we pull together. All right, next. Yeah, I will go ahead and 01:07:11.569 --> 01:07:19.578 - say it took our table a little while to get on topic. But where we were just starting to have really 01:07:19.578 --> 01:07:22.750 - interesting conversation is about that. 01:07:22.850 --> 01:07:28.865 - a connectedness of organizations and this idea that if we're all cogs in this wheel of assisting to 01:07:28.865 --> 01:07:34.939 - really understand what everybody's doing, so then we can better connect needs and resources. Because 01:07:34.939 --> 01:07:41.375 - it's not just about, I think, the idea of, oh, somebody comes to you and says they need something. There's 01:07:41.375 --> 01:07:47.450 - also this matching. Somebody comes to you and says they have something. And then how can you connect 01:07:47.450 --> 01:07:52.382 - what people have with what people need and that there's not really a consolidated 01:07:52.514 --> 01:08:01.851 - a mechanism for doing that right now. And so it seems like a few people talked about that concept, but 01:08:01.851 --> 01:08:11.461 - that was where we ended and was really interesting. Thank you. Well, I hope that you were sharing contact 01:08:11.461 --> 01:08:20.798 - information, maybe connecting with somebody new or a new institution. I do want to offer just a little 01:08:20.798 --> 01:08:21.886 - bit of time 01:08:22.274 --> 01:08:30.896 - to kind of plant the seed in your head of what you'll do next. And I'll soapbox for one minute and say 01:08:30.896 --> 01:08:38.680 - that there was a long time where getting together in a meeting, sharing resources, that felt 01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:47.050 - like collaboration to me. And if you take nothing else from this room today, it's that there are so 01:08:47.050 --> 01:08:52.240 - many stronger ways that we can come together and make change. 01:08:52.240 --> 01:09:01.152 - And in fact, it's urgent and we need to, from child conditions to community state conditions. And so 01:09:01.152 --> 01:09:09.975 - what does it mean to move those meetings, those regular meetings from, you know, we're sharing this 01:09:09.975 --> 01:09:18.622 - resource and we know each other to, we're acting together in the name of the people that need us. 01:09:18.754 --> 01:09:27.133 - Yeah, so that was my little soapbox. So hoping that what you do next really includes those deeper actions, 01:09:27.133 --> 01:09:33.790 - those coalitions that are hard, but we address the conflict and we do them together. 01:09:34.018 --> 01:09:43.569 - So we wanted to make sure to leave just a teeny bit of time. We have four-ish minutes for some questions 01:09:43.569 --> 01:09:52.757 - or any follow-up that might be there, but we also want you to have our information. And so, yeah, be 01:09:52.757 --> 01:09:57.214 - in touch with us. We're really, as you can tell, 01:09:57.314 --> 01:10:05.549 - We're pretty passionate about this work. And if there's some way that we can support taking that next 01:10:05.549 --> 01:10:13.623 - step in addressing multiple social issues through collaborative action, yeah, we're here to support 01:10:13.623 --> 01:10:22.342 - you. Yeah, so I don't know if you all want to come up in case questions come up for all of us. One question 01:10:22.342 --> 01:10:24.926 - that I had based on some of the 01:10:25.506 --> 01:10:34.423 - presentation earlier was a distinction between genuine shared values and maybe contortion to fit into 01:10:34.423 --> 01:10:43.252 - what could be construed as a shared value. So I was interested in conversations or lines of question 01:10:43.252 --> 01:10:45.438 - or inquiry that pull out 01:10:45.730 --> 01:10:54.879 - what a genuine shared value might be, because that might not always be easy to discern, or how in a 01:10:54.879 --> 01:11:04.120 - coalition of multiple organizations, when there is a conflict between some genuinely held values and 01:11:04.120 --> 01:11:11.806 - others that are shared, are there research-based ways to overcome those challenges? 01:11:12.770 --> 01:11:20.280 - Well, I think we would need a whole nother session to address that. I will say I think that's really 01:11:20.280 --> 01:11:27.790 - messy. I think that's what BTCC has been trying to do since the beginning. Folks came together. They 01:11:27.790 --> 01:11:35.449 - said we're missing a lot in Monroe County. How can we use the public health approach to see how we can 01:11:35.449 --> 01:11:42.736 - address multiple problems with solutions that we can work on together? How do we get that funded? 01:11:42.736 --> 01:11:50.151 - How do we get support from our organizations? And it hasn't been easy. It's been messy. There's been 01:11:50.151 --> 01:11:57.712 - conflict. Values are not always aligned. And that lack of alignment, I'm thinking of the last session, 01:11:57.712 --> 01:12:05.347 - it doesn't mean that we have to align on everything in order to work together. So if we're really clear 01:12:05.347 --> 01:12:12.688 - on what we are aligned on, I think there's a lot of work that can be done. I don't have an evidence 01:12:12.688 --> 01:12:19.133 - space for you in this moment. Is there anything that folks want to add? But I actually would love to 01:12:19.133 --> 01:12:25.706 - continue the conversation and find that. Yeah, I just want to say that's a great question. If you come 01:12:25.706 --> 01:12:32.471 - up with an answer, please let us know. Because I think that can be really difficult when you and I define 01:12:32.471 --> 01:12:38.916 - family differently. And so we go, oh my gosh, we can relate over this. And then you start getting to 01:12:38.916 --> 01:12:41.150 - the details and you're like, wait, 01:12:41.698 --> 01:12:47.976 - We've defined things in a way that maybe we can't get along, or this is not going to work, 01:12:47.976 --> 01:12:54.531 - or we're not. So I think it is really hard to find out exactly what values you have in common. 01:12:54.531 --> 01:13:01.499 - But I think, depending on what your issue is or who you're reaching out to, I think as long as there 01:13:01.499 --> 01:13:04.190 - is some kind of nugget of genuineness, 01:13:04.418 --> 01:13:11.290 - we're not just saying that suddenly financial security is a value I like because I'm courting a partnership 01:13:11.290 --> 01:13:17.843 - with some group. Like, it should be something that you are, I feel like if you're starting with values 01:13:17.843 --> 01:13:24.206 - that you already feel strongly about, then it's a little easier to kind of find and match where you 01:13:24.206 --> 01:13:30.695 - can. So yeah, I think just having like a solid, I don't know, internal map of what values are guiding 01:13:30.695 --> 01:13:32.286 - your organization's work 01:13:32.642 --> 01:13:38.278 - will help you as you're trying to suss out, OK, what do other people, what are their motivations, what 01:13:38.278 --> 01:13:43.969 - do they really want to see? Awesome. Please join me in thanking our presenters today. Thank you so much 01:13:43.969 --> 01:13:45.118 - for a great session.