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- Well, welcome to another program. Good afternoon. My name is Michael Carter. And as always, welcome

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- to my beautiful wife, Paulette, and my cousins, and my brother over there to my right. I left some sheets

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- of paper on all the tables with our upcoming attractions going all the way into September next year,

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- I think. And keep in mind, these aren't all set in stone. We have changes sometimes. We've had cancellations

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- before, and we just deal with them as they happen. We just finally work around it.

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- Many thanks to the American Legion for allowing us to have these programs. We've been partners in presenting

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- and preserving local history for over 12 years now. And thanks so much to their wait staff and kitchen

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- staff who does such a great job. It's great we have two such people as Brooke and Amanda. Please be

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- generous with them. I'd also of course like to thank CATS TV for recording our programs for

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- 10 years now, about. Yeah. And I'd like to recognize the fellow who's been recording these guys the

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- last few years, Dave Walter. Our expert cameraman. He does such a great job. It's an important service.

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- It allows us to upload each program to YouTube for people who can't make it to the live programs.

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- In addition, it allows us to preserve our local history for future generations to enjoy.

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- to our local history enthusiasts who attend these programs. That's great. We really appreciate your

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- support. And also the ones that watch these programs on YouTube are very much appreciated. It's great

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- that all these transplanted Bloomingtonians can see this, these all over the country, because they contact

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- me and tell me to keep doing it. They like it, to keep in touch with their old town. How many new attendees

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- today? We got some new faces here?

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- Not very many. Anybody that is new that has an email address they want to leave with us to be contacted

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- by direct email, you can do that. We won't sell your information, honestly. No, we won't. So our next

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- program, how many people have heard of Modesta, Indiana?

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- I don't even know where the heck it is, but the guy's going to do a program on that next month. So I'm

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- kind of curious where Modesto is. We'll find out. And we're taking December off, which we had the last

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- two or three years. It's kind of difficult for them to have their staff completely controlled as we

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- get into the holiday season. So we'll take December off, as usual, and then start in again in January.

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- But right now, Daniel Slegel.

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- Director of the History Center has a few remarks. Thank you, Michael. I just wanted to let everybody

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- know that coming up on Friday, November 7th, so next Friday,

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- And Saturday, November 8th, we are having our November garage sale extravaganza. That's the way that

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- we raise a lot of funds. A little over 25% of our funding come from the two garage sales. These ladies

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- work hard year round. So if you were looking to donate, you're going to have to wait till after the

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- new year. But the sale is coming up on Friday and Saturday. So you don't know how many amazing finds

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- you'll find out there. You say you don't need anything.

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- I say that every year and every year I go out there, I find something else I can't live without. So

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- make sure to come by and visit. There's a lot of great stuff. We also are very excited. Rod volunteers

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- at the History Center and does a lot of great work for us. So we're excited about his presentation.

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- But we also have an exhibit about this Hoosier team that's on display. It just opened.

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- I think a week, maybe two weeks ago, so it's still a very, very new exhibit in addition to Hey Neighbor

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- about the historic districts in downtown Bloomington. And then we have another exhibit about lantern

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- slides. So the way we've had to explain it to some school groups or even college students is this was

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- PowerPoint presentations before PowerPoint presentations.

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- And then they get it, it clicks right away and they go, oh, there's slides. I get why these are called

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- slides as you had to slide those.

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- It's fun to see that light bulb click on for them. But make sure you come by and visit. That is a really

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- neat exhibit about early 20th century Bloomington. So a lot of pictures from the very, very early 1900s.

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- And it's fun to see how some of the areas looked and how they've developed since. So make sure to come

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- by and see us at the History Center. And as usual, I brought a bunch of different items. Rod will even

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- highlight some of the photographs we have for sale that he's used in his presentation.

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- have some spooky fun Halloween-related stuff and some new books and things over there. So feel free

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- to pop over and say hi or grab one of these little reminders of when the garage sale is next week so

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- you can stop by and see us. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thanks, Daniel. Now to today's business.

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- So look, I know I use a football school. We all know that now.

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- But try to imagine a time when it wasn't. We're going to talk about a time when football was not a big

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- deal. Basketball wasn't. I think basketball will be again eventually. But the name of the program today

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- is Picture Perfect, HT Photos of the 1975-76 IU Undefeated Basketball Season by Rod Spah. And we'd also

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- like, and he'll probably tell you this, to hear from the attendees

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- about their favorite stories and memories from that year as it goes along. Feel free to comment any

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- time on what he's showing. So Rod? Oh, I'm going to take a few pictures. Then I'll turn the lights down,

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- just a couple of minutes. Thank you very much. And again, during the presentation, if my voice lowers

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- and you can't hear me, just wave, yell, whatever.

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- My name is Rod Spaw, and I'm currently a retired journalist. I worked for the Herald Times for 15 years,

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- starting in 2003. And before that, about for the time of this period, I was in Evansville, where, as

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- you may know, there's one or two IU fans in Evansville. So we were all keyed in on what was happening

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- in this season.

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- started. Okay, and we're going to talk about 75-76. We may stray here and there as is relevant to talk

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- about other teams in other years. But what do I mean by picture perfect? What does a perfect season

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- look like? Well, it looks like 32-0. It looks like an NCAA championship.

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- a Big Ten championship, a number one ranking every week of the season, having the national player of

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- the year, having the coach of the year, and being named the all-time March Madness team by the NCAA

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- in 2013. It'd be hard to improve on that unless you could win more than 32 games. And here's what we're

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- going to breeze through today.

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- We have to talk a little bit about this was kind of a redemption tour for IU. And we'll go through conference

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- and non-conference highlights, the NCAA tournament, and how people in Bloomington reacted to this team.

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- And if there's time at the end and you want to get into it, we can talk about how likely it would be

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- to ever repeat as an undefeated NCAA champion.

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- And particularly in the Bedlam and Bloomington section, please feel free to add your experiences of

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- that time. And if you see yourself in any of these images, please let me know after the presentation,

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- because it helps us document what we have.

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- I'm going to start out with the credits, because I was a journalist for 40 years. And of course, I never

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- thought that they got enough credit for their work. These are the HT photographers whose work you'll

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- see in these images. Dave Mathers, Russ Cochran, Phil Whitlow, Larry Kruehl. Larry was a chief photographer

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- for 30 years at the HT, and he did

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- He became the principal IU photographer and did all three of Coach Knight's championships. He was at

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- the 67 Rose Bowl. He was at the bowl trips with Bill Mallory's team. So he was the man when it came

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- to IU sports. And then, of course, the man on the writing side was Bob Hamill.

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- Now, unfortunately, as you know, he passed away this past summer. But he is here in spirit because I've

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- read every piece that he wrote during the 76th season. And I also got to visit with Bob for a couple

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- of hours last winter. So you'll see him quoted here. And most of the factual information has some origin

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- in Bob Hamill's work.

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- And of course, the Monroe County History Center, where I volunteered since I retired in 2018. And much

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- of my work there, particularly with Hillary Fleck, the curator, is in processing the HD photo archives,

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- which we picked up when Gannett closed the old building on South Walnut Street. And we picked up 8,000

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- prints and nearly 50 years of negatives.

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- And as you can imagine, we are still processing it. So it will take a long time. Now, I know that there's

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- a certain danger in doing this kind of presentation in Bloomington. And anywhere where there's a bunch

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- of Hoosier fans, for this reason, because we all know everything there is to know about the greatest

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- game and the greatest team and the greatest game.

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- You know, I remember them. I saw every game, talked about them, analyzed them with my friends.

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- And so I know, as you all do, that all these players were 10 feet tall. They scored 100 points a game,

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- and they were always kind to animals and small children. But in curating this, and it took me about a year,

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- to go through, to find and then go through all the negatives particularly. There were some things, and

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- talking to Bob of course, there were some things that I didn't remember, didn't remember correctly or

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- never knew. And one of those, and then I also kind of wanted to reflect on the

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- putting this achievement in perspective. And one of the first factoids I came across was this. This

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- is from 2023 census figures that nearly over 72% of the population is not old enough to have seen this

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- team play. They are 50 years and under.

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- So think about that. So the next time you're talking to your grandkids and you mention Scott May and

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- they go, huh? Well, that's why. And that's why it's important for places like the History Center to

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- collect and celebrate these stories. And we consider IU part of our community and part of our story.

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- So that's what we try to do.

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- I also was thinking what's happened in sports since 1976. There have been 15 perfect games played in

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- Major League Baseball. You know, that doesn't happen every day. We have four horses and win the Triple

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- Crown. There have been 30 undefeated national football champions in the last

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- And then according to Google AI, an estimated 275,000 college basketball games have been played since

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- Indiana were crowned NCAA champions in March of 1976. So it's something, it's an achievement that kind

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- of gets bigger every year that it's not duplicated.

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- There have been close calls since 76. Six men's basketball teams have begun the tournament with perfect

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- records. Two have reached the title game before losing. You know, I didn't remember Indiana State was

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- one of those. 133 games that year. One more than the Hoosiers. But they had one more loss. And then

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- Gonzaga was also 31-1. And I think other undefeated teams that got to the final four, I think,

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- or got to the tournament, UNLV, Kentucky did, and the other two escaped me. But last year's champion,

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- University of Florida, had a record of 35 and 4. And if you notice that,

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- That's 39 games. It's several more than 32. And it's not been unusual since in the last 20 years for

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- the champion to have played 39, 40 games in a season. That's because of all the new preseason tournaments

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- that have cropped up and the conference tournaments and things like that. 76 was Indiana's third championship.

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- And the first two were under Branch McCracken. These are photos from the 53 team. And here's another

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- reason we should have never let UCLA in the Big Ten. Before UCLA, it just screws up all the records

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- and the statistics in basketball because of their dominance in the early, in the 60s. But before UCLA,

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- throw them out. IU and Michigan State are still the only of those original Big Ten schools that have

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- more than one title. Michigan State has two. And these pictures are from the Arbitus, the yearbook of

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- the 53 team. And I picked these two because it features the guy right here who is probably the main

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- reason I'm an IU fan. Got anybody?

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- Anybody recognize that person? Yeah. Bonus points to these two right here. But yeah. Dick Farley, pride

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- of Pike County, Indiana in Winslow High School, which my mother attended about a decade before this

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- guy. But I grew up in a household where basketball was measured against the achievements of the great

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- Dick Farley.

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- And if you drove down to Winslow after this meeting, you'll see his name is still on the town signs.

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- 60 years after he died, proof again that in Indiana, the surest way to immortality is not baptism, but

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- basketball. You're probably more familiar with some of these playing teammates.

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- Bob Leonard and Dick Schlunt there. Then we have Fardley, Berkscott, and then Charlie, and all those

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- guys were Hoosiers. Charlie Crack was from Illinois. Of course, the great Branch McCracken. And this

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- was a pretty good two-year record. This was a starting five for two years, two outright Big Ten championships

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- and NBA championships. 43-7 overall.

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- So anybody would be pleased with that. But let's take a look at these are the seniors on the 76 team.

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- All of these guys were recruited in Bob Knight's second year at IU. And these are all, I would never

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- question Hamill on any of his statistics because that's what he was famous for. 108 games, four Big

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- Ten championships.

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- 37th Street Big Ten games. And here they're the seniors and we have Bobby Wilkerson, Tom Abernathy,

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- Scott May, Jim Cruz, and Quinn Buckner. And those guys had a two-year record of 63-1. So I don't think

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- there's any doubt of who's

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- can come out on top there. And this is a photo of them with some of the hardware they won during their

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- four years at IU. Absent from here, there is no, you know, the NCAA championship should go right there.

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- But it's not there, which tells me that this was probably taken preseason before the 75-76 play began.

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- Whoa. Now, I got to talk a little bit about that one blemish on the record. Over the years, friends

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- have asked me, why do you dislike Purdue so much? Why can't you ever root for Purdue, even when they're

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- not playing IU? And I always have one answer. They broke Scott Mazar. And this was from, this was at

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- the locker room at West Lafayette, February 22nd.

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- May broke his arm. IU went on to win that game by two points. They won the last three games of the regular

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- season and the first two games of the NCAA tourney. And then the day that will live in infamy,

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- March 22, 1975 in Dayton, Ohio, NCAA regional finals, and Kentucky of all people.

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- beat IU by two points. Kentucky was a team IU had beaten by 24 points earlier in the year. And you can

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- see there, May played, but his heavily wrapped arm, he was very ineffective. And Kentucky just played

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- an inspired ball game, particularly in the second half, to pull it out.

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- Coach Knight put up a sign in the locker room the next season that referenced this score and blamed

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- bad defense for that game. Not poor officiating or anything else. He just said bad defense. Because

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- this was way more, 92 was way more than they allowed any other person that entered the team that year.

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- And 90 points.

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- was more than they usually scored. And here is, oh, let me see. Look down that bench there. This was

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- the look of somebody who's just shot their dog, all of them. And here is Steve Green, who was a starter

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- on that team, who consoling Kent Benson, who had 33 points in that game. So he tried his best.

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- And here is the next day, they return home to Bloomington. And there you have a nice crowd gathered.

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- And this sign says, number one in our hearts, still the best. And here is Knight looking like he has

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- not slept in days, and probably hasn't. But that loss gave them a mission.

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- Now, Bob Hamill told me this, that on October 14th of every year, Knight would meet with his players

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- before the start of official practices and go over his goals for the year. Bob said Knight's goal was

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- always number one, win the Big Ten, except for this year.

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- He got them together and said, you guys are not going to be satisfied just winning a Big Ten championship,

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- just winning an NCAA championship. We can win every game, and that should be our goal. And I don't see

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- anywhere that was ever publicized until after they won the championships.

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- The first game, it really didn't count in the 32-0. It's a preseason exhibition game against the Soviets.

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- But this was a tough match. This was the core of the Soviet team that had upset the USA in the 72 Olympics.

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- They played together for more than a decade. And you could see they're huge. This is Mark Hamor. He's 6'8".

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- And this is Vladimir Tichenko. I remember that name from 72, who is just a giant. And I included this

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- picture of Knight because see what he's wearing here? This is the last time you'll see a solid sports

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- coat on Bob Knight. He broke out the plaids right after that. But this was a tough game. Because the

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- Soviets were so tough, four of his starters got in foul trouble the first game.

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- So it fell to Haymore. And here's Wayne Radford, sophomore of that year. Here is Rich Valavicius. Everybody

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- remember that name? Freshman from Hammond. And as you can see here, he showed a knack very early on.

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- He didn't mind a little of the rough stuff. He was going to do OK in the Big Ten.

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- And there was these three reserves that actually allowed IU to go into halftime, up six, and then the

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- starters came back in the second half and pushed it out to almost 20 points. And it was played in Market

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- Square Arena, brand new. They didn't build an easy schedule that year. Don't let anybody think they

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- had a cakewalk by any means, because they didn't.

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- Three of the first four opponents were ranked in the top 20. Three of the first four games were on the

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- road. And the first regular season game that counted was the defending national champion in preseason

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- number two, UCLA. And that was played in St. Louis. It was made for TV extravaganza.

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- hyped as the championship game that should have been but wasn't from the previous NCAA tournament. And

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- I love this photo. You see Benson here going up, getting ready to spike the ball. And did any of you

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- see his daughter Ashley play volleyball for IU? Any of you? Well, I saw her

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- quite a few her matches. And she assumed this pose many times. I can recognize the form and where she

00:25:39.793 --> 00:25:50.149
- got it now. She was the only all-American volleyball player IU has had. And they won. It was just kind

00:25:50.149 --> 00:25:59.198
- of pushed out the lead the whole game. And Quinn addressed the elephant in the room about

00:25:59.362 --> 00:26:08.996
- We're not playing last year's game. We're playing every game the best as we can. And it was a good attitude

00:26:08.996 --> 00:26:18.005
- because the next game was a home game against Notre Dame, and they nearly lost. They blew a 14-point

00:26:18.005 --> 00:26:27.371
- lead in the second half to one point with a minute remaining. It was not pretty by any means. Both teams

00:26:27.371 --> 00:26:28.798
- shot under 40%.

00:26:29.026 --> 00:26:39.860
- and IU held on for a three-point win. And if that wasn't close enough, then they go to Kentucky and

00:26:39.860 --> 00:26:51.236
- playing in Lexington. Oh, Louisville, excuse me. And this, you know, sometimes you just got to be lucky.

00:26:51.236 --> 00:26:54.270
- Well, this was a lucky one.

00:26:54.402 --> 00:27:02.023
- Kentucky led with under eight minutes left in regulation. And as time expired, there was a shot from

00:27:02.023 --> 00:27:09.946
- IU that missed. And Benson had another volleyball move. He stuck out his big hand and just hit the ball,

00:27:09.946 --> 00:27:17.568
- just going to tap it up. He wasn't actually taking a shot, but it went straight up and then straight

00:27:17.568 --> 00:27:19.454
- down through the basket.

00:27:20.930 --> 00:27:29.318
- And then they went ahead 13 to 4 in the extra period to win. This was not a close game by any means,

00:27:29.318 --> 00:27:37.705
- but it was an important one for Coach Knight. This one was also played in Indianapolis. And this was

00:27:37.705 --> 00:27:46.259
- his 200th coaching victory. And a couple of people I want to point out here. Here is Tim Knight, Coach

00:27:46.259 --> 00:27:50.494
- Knight's oldest son. And here, this is Tate Locke.

00:27:50.626 --> 00:28:01.308
- coach at Army and he hired Knight to be his assistant and then later Locke went on to coach at places

00:28:01.308 --> 00:28:11.990
- like Clemson and Indiana State. The rest of the non-conference schedule was pretty routine, only they

00:28:11.990 --> 00:28:20.158
- had their regular Indiana classics and holiday tournaments where they cruised

00:28:20.386 --> 00:28:29.984
- most of the time. And the only, the toughest one was they played in a holiday tournament at Madison

00:28:29.984 --> 00:28:40.159
- Square Garden where they beat the St. John's Redmond 76-69 and there is Coach Knight with Luke Carneseca.

00:28:40.159 --> 00:28:43.710
- This came from Bob saying, you know,

00:28:43.874 --> 00:28:52.072
- Bob Knight started at IU in 1971, came from Army, but he had played at Ohio State, and he was an Ohio

00:28:52.072 --> 00:29:00.833
- native, so he was very familiar with the Midwest. And he came in convinced that you could build a basketball

00:29:00.833 --> 00:29:08.871
- team with nothing but kids from Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. As Hamill said, he liked the idea that

00:29:08.871 --> 00:29:10.398
- a player's parents

00:29:10.530 --> 00:29:20.478
- could drive, could be within driving distance to see a game once in a while with their kids playing.

00:29:20.478 --> 00:29:30.820
- And here are the, these are the seniors and Kent Benson who started, he was a junior in this year, Bobby

00:29:30.820 --> 00:29:35.646
- Wilkerson. And look at their size, Quinn Butler,

00:29:36.802 --> 00:29:48.128
- Scott May, Tom Abernathy. These weren't any little fellas. These were men. And if you remember, Buckner

00:29:48.128 --> 00:29:59.017
- played his first two years. He played for the football team and was a starting linebacker, I think.

00:29:59.017 --> 00:30:00.542
- Safety? Yeah.

00:30:04.930 --> 00:30:16.574
- And of course, Benson was just a huge person. And here were the three. Well, Cruz had started several

00:30:16.574 --> 00:30:28.447
- games in his four-year career. He only started one game in the championship year. He'd started the game

00:30:28.447 --> 00:30:33.470
- when they played UCLA in the 73 semifinals.

00:30:34.114 --> 00:30:42.820
- Cruz started that game. And then here we have sophomore Wayne Radford, sophomore Jim Wiseman, and then

00:30:42.820 --> 00:30:51.863
- here's Valovich's freshman from Hammond. And those were the guys that got the lion's share of the minutes.

00:30:51.863 --> 00:31:00.062
- These were the other guys on the team, because I didn't think it was fair to omit them entirely.

00:31:00.226 --> 00:31:10.145
- But they didn't get a lot of playing time except in cleanup. And here was Knight's staff. And this was

00:31:10.145 --> 00:31:19.872
- a nice photo of Knight talking to his players during a game that was taken by Larry Kruehl. I'm just

00:31:19.872 --> 00:31:29.214
- going to show, we don't have photos of every game home and away. We have most of the home games.

00:31:29.538 --> 00:31:39.966
- one or two of the way games. So I'm just going to show images from the games we have. And here is Knight

00:31:39.966 --> 00:31:50.394
- getting some exercise during the Northwestern game. This is the first Michigan game. And IU had an eight

00:31:50.394 --> 00:31:56.254
- point lead. I just added that this morning with 429 to go.

00:31:56.706 --> 00:32:05.953
- And they ended up winning by six. They had five turnovers in the last five minutes. Many, some of you

00:32:05.953 --> 00:32:15.471
- may remember, night, it was a much different game back then. There was no time clock. There was no three

00:32:15.471 --> 00:32:24.718
- point line. You had a center jump to start each half. Oh, there was no dunking this year. Dunking had

00:32:24.718 --> 00:32:26.078
- been outlawed.

00:32:26.210 --> 00:32:34.643
- So it was a much different game. And part of the regular night strategy was if you were up a few points

00:32:34.643 --> 00:32:43.157
- with three or four minutes to go, you just held the ball out. It wasn't the North Carolina four quarters

00:32:43.157 --> 00:32:51.671
- as much. They would still run some motion. But you only took a shot if it was a layup or you got fouled.

00:32:51.671 --> 00:32:53.374
- And this was a game.

00:32:54.050 --> 00:33:02.443
- Michigan State in all three games they played that year were much quicker, particularly at the guard

00:33:02.443 --> 00:33:11.002
- post than IU. And that strategy almost came back to bite him a couple times, and this was one of them.

00:33:11.002 --> 00:33:19.893
- And Butler's on the bench, as he often was because of foul trouble. He had a really bad habit of preaching

00:33:19.893 --> 00:33:23.134
- instead of guarding, so with his feet.

00:33:24.322 --> 00:33:32.594
- I guess he thought he was still safety and was going through the player. This is one of the few way

00:33:32.594 --> 00:33:41.446
- games we have. Illinois, no big deal. I put this up because these are the two main guys. And they averaged

00:33:41.446 --> 00:33:49.801
- about 40 points a game and 20 rebounds a game. And if you've got those guys playing at that level in

00:33:49.801 --> 00:33:53.854
- a game, IU was always going to be in good shape.

00:33:54.338 --> 00:34:02.982
- Now, of course, you know, they had defenses that wanted to take one or the other out of the game, then

00:34:02.982 --> 00:34:12.046
- the other guys had to pick up the slack. Like this, these two Purdue games. They used a zone, and basically

00:34:12.046 --> 00:34:21.278
- it was a collapsing zone, and they wanted to force Benson out of the middle, which they did. And the Hoosiers

00:34:21.410 --> 00:34:30.953
- were always in the lead, but not by very much. And IU also won the rematch in West Lafayette, which

00:34:30.953 --> 00:34:40.974
- they used the same tactic. Here's a couple more. Scott May going up against a pretty good Purdue player,

00:34:40.974 --> 00:34:43.646
- Wayne Walls. And Key Stats.

00:34:45.026 --> 00:34:53.378
- May had 32 points in this one. Benson didn't score quite as much because of the zone. And then Wilkerson

00:34:53.378 --> 00:35:01.412
- had eight assists and four steals. Now, this was always, you know, when I started, I said, oh, well,

00:35:01.412 --> 00:35:09.366
- Buckner was the guy. He was the quarterback, and he did all the playmaking and stuff. Wilkerson had

00:35:09.366 --> 00:35:13.502
- 40 more assists on the season than Buckner did. And

00:35:13.634 --> 00:35:21.813
- Buckner had 30 more fouls than anybody else, which gave Wilkerson more of an opportunity to get an assist

00:35:21.813 --> 00:35:29.684
- with Buckner out of the game. The airplane was constant here, and I didn't put the score on the front

00:35:29.684 --> 00:35:35.934
- slide because I don't think you'd believe it. Here's Benson going in for a shot.

00:35:42.562 --> 00:35:53.249
- They won by 53 points. Now, we haven't beaten Wisconsin a half a dozen times in the last 25 years. And

00:35:53.249 --> 00:36:04.041
- maybe they're still getting even. But I put these three up, because those of you that are photographers

00:36:04.041 --> 00:36:05.182
- will know.

00:36:05.666 --> 00:36:14.611
- They were a 35 millimeter film. It's a little, narrow strip of film with images that are about an inch

00:36:14.611 --> 00:36:23.469
- square. Well, these are, and during a game at Assembly Hall, the HD photographers, there were usually

00:36:23.469 --> 00:36:32.328
- two. And between them, they would shoot 500 or 600 images. These are three. And as you can see, I put

00:36:32.328 --> 00:36:35.454
- all the frames on a roll or number.

00:36:35.938 --> 00:36:45.937
- So you can see at what point they occurred. And so all these three images are clearly one event. And

00:36:45.937 --> 00:36:55.936
- here's Knight starting with L3. And then he follows this guy to the scores table and giving him some

00:36:55.936 --> 00:37:03.262
- advice. And he's still going at him here just to make sure he understood.

00:37:05.794 --> 00:37:15.410
- And I did look it up, and I got two technical fouls in this game. His team is ahead 30 points at halftime.

00:37:15.410 --> 00:37:24.576
- They win the game by 53, and he still gets upset enough to get two technical fouls. Next, oh, this is

00:37:24.576 --> 00:37:34.462
- the game I remember most from that year. Maybe some of you do too. This was the second Michigan game at home.

00:37:35.138 --> 00:37:44.365
- And it was a national game. You can see this is what TV cameras used to look like when they brought

00:37:44.365 --> 00:37:53.592
- out the big guns for a national game. And you see here, I'm sure Knight didn't appreciate this. And

00:37:53.592 --> 00:38:03.742
- here's Knight's son Tim again. He had a heck of a year. You see pictures of him on the team bus and at games.

00:38:06.178 --> 00:38:16.590
- IU trail by 10 at halftime. It was the largest deficit at halftime since 1973. They just couldn't hit

00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:27.410
- the side of a barn. Michigan showed off their quickness, got out in transition and got some easy buckets.

00:38:27.410 --> 00:38:35.678
- And then Radford came in and keyed an IU rally with 16 points and five rebounds.

00:38:36.098 --> 00:38:44.700
- But the Hoosiers were still down four with 30 seconds left. And this is what I remember. I'm watching

00:38:44.700 --> 00:38:53.302
- the game with my folks at their house. And you know, IU didn't lead, hadn't led the entire game. They

00:38:53.302 --> 00:39:01.988
- were having a heck of a time catching up. And I was a nervous wreck by 30 seconds left. I'm sure a lot

00:39:01.988 --> 00:39:03.422
- of IU fans were.

00:39:03.554 --> 00:39:13.808
- I just didn't see it, you know. And finally, my dad looked at me and says, boy, don't you know, the

00:39:13.808 --> 00:39:24.062
- refs won't let them lose at home. Now, I can see you know where I'm going with this. Here's a great

00:39:24.062 --> 00:39:29.086
- photo, six seconds left. There's still down two.

00:39:30.114 --> 00:39:38.978
- Their best player has a ball, but he didn't get a shot off. Buckner got a shot off. He missed. It got

00:39:38.978 --> 00:39:47.407
- batted up against the backboard, came off, and then somehow Benson tipped it in as time expired.

00:39:47.407 --> 00:39:56.097
- But you know, there was no instant replay in those days, so the refs had to get together and make a

00:39:56.097 --> 00:40:00.094
- decision of whether that last basket counted.

00:40:01.026 --> 00:40:12.183
- And they decided it did. And then my dad suddenly became the smartest guy since old Scooter. Or he knew

00:40:12.183 --> 00:40:23.662
- everything, even before it was going to happen. IU Michigan State, not much there. But Benson, he exploded

00:40:23.662 --> 00:40:28.382
- for 38 points and 10 rebounds in that game.

00:40:28.482 --> 00:40:38.257
- IU Illinois was closer than it should have been. It was another one of those Illinois I think was playing

00:40:38.257 --> 00:40:47.664
- a zone and IU was trying to hold it out and that, and they needed some outside shooting from crews to

00:40:47.664 --> 00:40:55.134
- secure the win. There are more shot. There's a, this is Validicious and Buckner.

00:40:58.978 --> 00:41:07.633
- IU was pretty much in control of these games, although they did in both. That was the only Big Ten opponent

00:41:07.633 --> 00:41:15.887
- to lead IU at halftime in both games that year. Prior to the first Minnesota game, the Hoosier did not

00:41:15.887 --> 00:41:23.980
- trail at the half in two years. And across the whole season, there were six times where they trailed

00:41:23.980 --> 00:41:25.022
- at halftime.

00:41:27.106 --> 00:41:35.140
- And I also, there's Radford doing what he did. He was a battler, you know. If you needed somebody to

00:41:35.140 --> 00:41:43.334
- go in and mix it up, you know, he wasn't the tallest guy on the floor, but he was one of the toughest.

00:41:43.334 --> 00:41:51.686
- Look at it. Bobby Wilkerson, 6'7", and he regularly jumped center. He's jumping here against a guy named

00:41:51.686 --> 00:41:53.118
- Michael Thompson.

00:41:53.666 --> 00:42:01.707
- an all-American from Minnesota. And I want you to look at these reference points. Look at where the

00:42:01.707 --> 00:42:09.828
- heel is. Look at the knee compared to his knee, the waist compared to that waist, and even where his

00:42:09.828 --> 00:42:18.110
- wrist is compared to this guy. This guy had a crazy vertical jump. And of course, when he got the tip,

00:42:18.110 --> 00:42:21.246
- he would tip it toward Benson, who was

00:42:21.730 --> 00:42:31.652
- who was 6'11". So they got most of the center jumps. Next game was the season finale at Assembly Hall.

00:42:31.652 --> 00:42:41.574
- And this was against Ohio State, and it was the last game of Fred Taylor's coaching career. Taylor had

00:42:41.574 --> 00:42:48.702
- been Knight's coach at Ohio State when he won an NCAA championship there.

00:42:49.282 --> 00:42:56.556
- And then Knight, I don't know if he'd done this before, but it was kind of his tradition when a Big

00:42:56.556 --> 00:43:04.049
- Ten coach retired, when he came in for the last time, Knight would, you know, give him a gift. I think

00:43:04.049 --> 00:43:11.614
- he was usually a rocking chair, and Fred got a rocking chair, and you see he's got a fishing pole here.

00:43:14.658 --> 00:43:23.463
- The other tradition of the last game Knight started was senior day. And here are May and Buckner coming

00:43:23.463 --> 00:43:31.929
- out of the game for the last time. And Buckner getting that patented Knight slap on the back of the

00:43:31.929 --> 00:43:40.734
- head. They only reserved for people he really liked, like Buckner and Kentucky coach Joe B. Hall. Yeah.

00:43:41.794 --> 00:43:49.294
- I don't, Hall didn't appreciate as much as Buckner did though. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. And then

00:43:49.294 --> 00:43:56.867
- there was that, he smacked him with a rolled up program one year or two that didn't go over real good.

00:43:56.867 --> 00:44:04.734
- But anyway, here's Buckner waiting to get his chance to speak. And here are the five seniors taking there.

00:44:05.122 --> 00:44:13.399
- waiting for their turn. And then as Knight said in the past four years, and I speak now as a fan, we've

00:44:13.399 --> 00:44:21.517
- been privileged to sit in this building and watch five tremendous young men perform their skills. And

00:44:21.517 --> 00:44:29.715
- fans broke out this sign on the last game. And of course, you know, the final four that year was going

00:44:29.715 --> 00:44:33.694
- to be in Philadelphia. And of course, we were all

00:44:33.954 --> 00:44:43.901
- knew we were going to be there. We were all looking forward to that. A couple quick things about the

00:44:43.901 --> 00:44:53.946
- tournament started in 1939. It was just an 18 tourney. It was mainly major conference champions. They

00:44:53.946 --> 00:45:00.446
- just got together and they played and expanded 16 teams in 51. So

00:45:00.610 --> 00:45:09.541
- McCracken won an 18 tourney, and he won a 16-team tourney with his 53-team. The Bill Russell-led San

00:45:09.541 --> 00:45:18.384
- Francisco Dons were the first undefeated national champion. University of North Carolina duplicated

00:45:18.384 --> 00:45:27.404
- that the next year. And then, of course, John Wooden just messed up everybody's stats. Again, he went

00:45:27.404 --> 00:45:29.438
- undefeated four times.

00:45:30.050 --> 00:45:41.391
- in that period of time. And then the tourney expanded to 32 teams, I think it was in 75. And now we

00:45:41.391 --> 00:45:53.073
- have 68 teams play, including a play-in of four teams. Indiana won five tournament games in 76. Nobody

00:45:53.073 --> 00:45:56.702
- got a bye in a 32-team tourney.

00:45:57.122 --> 00:46:06.319
- But now, a team that did not receive a first round bye would have to win six games. And I had to include

00:46:06.319 --> 00:46:15.515
- the women, because I am a season ticket holder for the IU women's team. I was there last night for their

00:46:15.515 --> 00:46:23.486
- first preseason game. There have been 10 undefeated women's champions in much fewer years.

00:46:23.810 --> 00:46:32.482
- And University of Connecticut has taken over the UCLA role there with multiple. This is IU's Denise.

00:46:32.482 --> 00:46:41.240
- I think this is from 83, which was the first year they became eligible for the tournament. And she is

00:46:41.240 --> 00:46:49.912
- still IU's third leading scorer and still holds a rebounding record for career. The first tournament

00:46:49.912 --> 00:46:52.574
- game for IU was in South Bend.

00:46:52.930 --> 00:47:02.251
- And again, they duplicated their win over even one by a little bit more. You can see, you know, all

00:47:02.251 --> 00:47:11.759
- the tournament games get a little rougher even than the Big Ten a lot of times. And this one was. And

00:47:11.759 --> 00:47:20.894
- keep the points. Here we have May and Benson combining for 20 rebounds and 53 points. Next up was

00:47:21.058 --> 00:47:30.671
- The regional semifinal and final both played in Baton Rouge, Alabama, led with 328 to go and then IU

00:47:30.671 --> 00:47:40.759
- shut them down. And then they won with three free throws. And here you can see Benson got in foul trouble

00:47:40.759 --> 00:47:47.326
- trying to guard this guy named Leon Douglas. He was an All-American.

00:47:47.778 --> 00:47:57.789
- So they, so Benson wasn't an effective against him. We see May got 25. Then Wilkerson and Buckner picked

00:47:57.789 --> 00:48:07.514
- up the slack on the scoring. And you see Wilkerson had 12 rebounds. So, you know, if you can out jump

00:48:07.514 --> 00:48:16.190
- a 6'11 guy at the center jump, you ought to be able to get a rebound or two. And he could.

00:48:16.866 --> 00:48:25.886
- This is Marquette, which was the number two ranked team in the country when they played in the regional finals.

00:48:26.050 --> 00:48:35.185
- McGuire got a technical with 25 seconds to go. IU was ahead, and then he got the technical on a foul

00:48:35.185 --> 00:48:44.862
- call against his team. So IU got two free throws. They got the technical. They got the ball out of bounds,

00:48:44.862 --> 00:48:54.449
- and that accounted for the final margin. But don't feel too sorry for Al McGuire. He won the championship

00:48:54.449 --> 00:48:55.806
- the next year.

00:48:58.850 --> 00:49:07.721
- and there was his star, Bo Ellis. This, you would think this might be for after the Final Four,

00:49:07.721 --> 00:49:17.700
- but it wasn't. This was the scene at Monroe Airport when the plane, team plane came back from the regional.

00:49:17.700 --> 00:49:24.446
- You know, IU was going to the Final Four and you can see who came out to

00:49:25.154 --> 00:49:33.353
- congratulate them. If you remember that 75 photo at the airport, there was all the fans there could

00:49:33.353 --> 00:49:41.635
- fit under one of these wings. And here, they're out on the tarmac. Was anybody here that was in this

00:49:41.635 --> 00:49:50.244
- scene? Did you go? You were? You know you could never get out on the tarmac again. They would be calling

00:49:50.244 --> 00:49:53.278
- Homeland Security if you tried this.

00:49:57.090 --> 00:50:11.640
- And here's the, I'm curious, what drew so many people there? Were you just so happy? Ma'am? Uh-huh.

00:50:11.640 --> 00:50:23.134
- OK. Nobody hears it. And if anybody knows who these people are, tell me later.

00:50:24.034 --> 00:50:31.792
- But you see, it was a cold day that day, right? You remember? Because these guys are really bundled

00:50:31.792 --> 00:50:39.706
- up. And here's Scott May looks as scared as he was the whole season trying to get through this crowd.

00:50:39.706 --> 00:50:47.852
- The Final Four was played in Philadelphia at the Spectrum. And that might sound familiar, because that's

00:50:47.852 --> 00:50:50.878
- also where IU won the 81 championship.

00:51:00.130 --> 00:51:12.536
- Reagan. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. But you went ahead to the game, right? Oh, absolutely. Oh, OK. Yeah. I took

00:51:12.536 --> 00:51:24.704
- a picture of the scoreboard with North Carolina and IU up there was zero. And something happened. The

00:51:24.704 --> 00:51:29.118
- final score, I took a picture of it.

00:51:29.474 --> 00:51:43.520
- and the final score is imposed over the 0-0 scoreboard. I don't know how it happened. Not intentional.

00:51:43.520 --> 00:51:57.566
- Well, in photography, some accidents are very fortunate. This was the semifinal game against UCLA. And

00:51:57.698 --> 00:52:06.987
- Benson again found himself in foul trouble trying to guard this all-American, Richard Washington. So

00:52:06.987 --> 00:52:16.828
- they switched and put Abernathy on him and really clamped down on him. And here we go, Wilkerson. Benson's

00:52:16.828 --> 00:52:22.622
- on the bench. Wilkerson picks it up. 19 rebounds in that game.

00:52:27.170 --> 00:52:37.121
- And this is a setup for the, oh, and here is one of the photographs that we have that Daniel has over

00:52:37.121 --> 00:52:47.170
- on the table. If you'd like to, we don't have many copies, but we have some. And about the photos that

00:52:47.170 --> 00:52:56.926
- Daniel has, they are not ones that Daniel made on his office printer. These are extra, a duplicate,

00:52:57.378 --> 00:53:05.617
- HD prints that they would print out for, they had several publishing projects concerning IU basketball

00:53:05.617 --> 00:53:14.256
- and what we have are duplicates from all that. And we have been given permission by the Gannett Corporation

00:53:14.256 --> 00:53:22.655
- that we can sell the duplicates and then we'll use those proceeds to, you know, there are costs involved

00:53:22.655 --> 00:53:26.334
- in maintaining and working with these images.

00:53:28.418 --> 00:53:39.429
- And it won't cover it. You know, it's very, very little. And the key stat. Oh, you might remember this.

00:53:39.429 --> 00:53:50.441
- It just started in an awful. Because three minutes in, Bobby Wilkerson, you just saw he got 19 rebounds

00:53:50.441 --> 00:53:56.158
- the previous game. And he just literally knocked out.

00:53:56.450 --> 00:54:04.353
- And it probably contributed to this fact that they trailed at halftime. Knight tried a couple people

00:54:04.353 --> 00:54:12.491
- in Wilkerson's plays, but Jim Wiseman, the sophomore, had the steadiest play, played most of the second

00:54:12.491 --> 00:54:20.473
- half. And Knight credited him with saving their bacon there in the second half by just keeping things

00:54:20.473 --> 00:54:24.542
- steady, getting a ball where it was supposed to go.

00:54:26.338 --> 00:54:36.922
- And here, of course, we have Knight with the Buckner, May, and the trophy, and the iconic one. And that's

00:54:36.922 --> 00:54:47.205
- another one Daniel has with the score and that. Now, you weren't at the 76 game. I was. You were? Yes.

00:54:47.205 --> 00:54:51.998
- Well, tell me about it. How was it? Wild. Wild?

00:54:56.098 --> 00:55:05.161
- left to go. No tickets or anything. But when we got there, the scalpers were out there with their tickets.

00:55:05.161 --> 00:55:13.801
- Did you leave from Boomington? Yes. I got my ticket from the final game. Do you remember what it cost

00:55:13.801 --> 00:55:22.526
- you from the scalper? Six dollars. I got my tickets. It was about $13.75 I think for original tickets.

00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:33.166
- Oh, well, they've gone out some there. The lower section is the seventh row in the first seat, right

00:55:33.166 --> 00:55:42.290
- underneath the basket. Well, that was some good shots there. Was that where he got the nets down? Did

00:55:42.290 --> 00:55:51.326
- you see them? We couldn't see that. They were jumping up in front of us, and I couldn't find my box.

00:55:53.282 --> 00:56:03.247
- And here is Benson celebrating. And I've heard on the panel discussions talking to these guys. I think

00:56:03.247 --> 00:56:13.503
- good ones you can find on YouTube from the 40th anniversary. And Buckner's saying that what he remembered

00:56:13.503 --> 00:56:21.630
- most vividly was Knight smiling. He had never seen him smile so much in four years.

00:56:27.106 --> 00:56:35.660
- Bedlam and Bloomington. Now, you all, I want you all to look for yourselves in these crowds and tell

00:56:35.660 --> 00:56:44.214
- me what was happening. Kirkwood, you know, 1030,000 people. This is looking, most of the ones I have

00:56:44.214 --> 00:56:52.684
- are looking North Walnut back toward Kirkwood. And you can see here, this one is at, this is at 7th

00:56:52.684 --> 00:56:55.902
- and Walnut where this guy got up for,

00:56:57.410 --> 00:57:12.390
- See it. Barzo's Blitz. Anybody remember that? Is that where Brothers is now? Brothers Nightclub,

00:57:12.390 --> 00:57:25.054
- Brothers Bar, next to the Vid? Yeah. Well, here are a couple fans getting a lift.

00:57:28.642 --> 00:57:46.379
- And of course, there's small to the department store. Mike's Tavern. That was before my day.

00:57:46.379 --> 00:57:57.822
- And this truck, I figured out, is in front of the Bluebird.

00:58:00.066 --> 00:58:11.705
- Maybe it was a band truck, you know, you always see those out there. And these are also from the Herald

00:58:11.705 --> 00:58:23.121
- Times, all the on the spot reporting, Drunks on Cars, Bacchanalia. And that's a pretty fancy word for

00:58:23.121 --> 00:58:27.262
- a journalist, you know, Bacchanalia.

00:58:28.546 --> 00:58:40.061
- And then we have a street sign going down here as a souvenir. And here is, this is a little bit further

00:58:40.061 --> 00:58:51.354
- up on North Walnut where you see the town cinema playing a naughty movie at the time. And there's the

00:58:51.354 --> 00:58:57.886
- princess there to orient you. Anybody seen themselves yet?

00:58:59.490 --> 00:59:18.003
- No? Oh. More, there's more up close. And here are some conscientious citizens picking up all the beer

00:59:18.003 --> 00:59:29.438
- cans and bottles. And the stat from the Herald Times was that,

00:59:29.538 --> 00:59:40.567
- Altogether about a half dozen celebrants ended up under arrest for public intoxication. Another 27 were

00:59:40.567 --> 00:59:51.914
- treated at Bloomington Hospital for everything from traffic injuries to, quote, acute alcoholism, unquote.

00:59:51.914 --> 00:59:57.534
- So was it the party of the year there before? Crazy?

01:00:04.962 --> 01:00:15.350
- OK, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I got a picture. That's coming up. That was the next day. Yeah. And then I don't

01:00:15.350 --> 01:00:25.738
- have any pictures of Showalter Fountain, but that was quite a scene. And it was one of the occasions

01:00:25.738 --> 01:00:31.806
- where one of the fish got removed from its moorings. Yeah.

01:00:34.306 --> 01:00:42.886
- And this was probably at the height of about 4,000 people. And North Walnut traffic was stopped all

01:00:42.886 --> 01:00:51.467
- the way back to Kirkwood, between Kirkwood and 7th Street. And it was 1 a.m. police reported before

01:00:51.467 --> 01:00:58.846
- traffic could move freely through North Walnut. Here we go. Here's your welcome home.

01:00:59.874 --> 01:01:09.640
- These are all the people that stayed sober the night before, because they're out there the next morning.

01:01:09.640 --> 01:01:19.034
- Yeah. And night did not. Oh, here we go. That's part of the crowd. You see they're not all students.

01:01:19.034 --> 01:01:27.870
- There's a good range of people there. And then this must be the trucks you were talking about.

01:01:29.794 --> 01:01:38.442
- Yeah, yeah. I think somewhere between here and the airport, they moved from the team bus on to this.

01:01:38.442 --> 01:01:47.004
- Because I've got another one. You can blow it up here. Yeah, you see here. Oh, OK. OK. Well, that's

01:01:47.004 --> 01:01:53.854
- what's happening here. They're getting up there so that everybody can see them.

01:01:58.370 --> 01:02:08.977
- Yeah, and Bob told me that, you know, riding back from the airport, you know, there were people standing

01:02:08.977 --> 01:02:19.382
- by the side of the road to see him and wave, and they were hanging off the overpasses, and it was kind

01:02:19.382 --> 01:02:25.342
- of like a holiday. Yeah. Yeah, no, night wasn't with them.

01:02:26.722 --> 01:02:36.076
- Because he had stayed to visit Bobby Wilkerson in the hospital. They kept him overnight for observation.

01:02:36.076 --> 01:02:45.073
- And the night was also going to an All-Star game down in Washington, D.C., before he flew home. This

01:02:45.073 --> 01:02:54.427
- is a big rally. I'm sure some of you probably were here at Assembly Hall the next day. Well over 10,000.

01:02:54.427 --> 01:02:56.030
- It was televised.

01:02:57.986 --> 01:03:08.323
- Channel 4. Huge crowd filled the floor and the lower bowl. I assume there are probably some people on

01:03:08.323 --> 01:03:18.760
- the balcony too. And then here are Nye, May, and Buckner. And I think there's an assistant coach here.

01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:22.206
- Some more scenes from that rally.

01:03:25.762 --> 01:03:35.637
- Anybody know who this woman and the baby is? If it looks familiar, let me know later. Because nobody

01:03:35.637 --> 01:03:46.000
- that I've spoken to with IU ties can tell me who that is. And then, of course, they had the chair leaders

01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:53.822
- waiting for them. And this is my favorite photo from that. Or if anybody knows,

01:03:54.402 --> 01:04:03.448
- Is this one of you? One of you here? If not, or if you know who it is, let me know. This picture is

01:04:03.448 --> 01:04:12.855
- not in the exhibit downtown, at least yet. I'm still working on Hillary to get that included. So I have

01:04:12.855 --> 01:04:19.006
- a few, particularly of the celebrations that she doesn't, so to get

01:04:19.618 --> 01:04:27.382
- To see all the images, you have to go both places. You have to be here, and you have to go downtown

01:04:27.382 --> 01:04:35.535
- and see what we have up in the, it's on the second floor in what's called the Monroe County Sports Room.

01:04:35.535 --> 01:04:43.455
- This is a month later. Bloomington is still celebrating. 3,200 people at Gladstone Field House at the

01:04:43.455 --> 01:04:49.278
- time. It was the largest crowd they'd ever gotten for one of these things.

01:04:52.226 --> 01:05:04.919
- Here you have Doc Bowen and Bob Knight. And Bowen giving a nice tribute to the team. And there is our

01:05:04.919 --> 01:05:18.110
- Bob Hamill right there. And there is Nancy Knight, which is a coach, first wife. John Ryan with a trophy.

01:05:21.890 --> 01:05:35.692
- Here's another one I love. Adolph Rupp came up from Kentucky to give this trophy to Scott May. And doesn't

01:05:35.692 --> 01:05:46.270
- he look happy to be there? And here are the IU's five seniors taking a final bow.

01:05:51.554 --> 01:06:02.300
- Yeah, I mean, they all broke out the plaids there. And of course, you got Bobby Wilkerson styling there.

01:06:02.300 --> 01:06:12.636
- He looked cool. I remarked to Hillary, if some of you know Hillary, with his hair and the sideburns.

01:06:12.636 --> 01:06:20.414
- He reminded me of Sly Stone from Sly and the Family Stone. And I said that.

01:06:20.642 --> 01:06:27.864
- I mentioned after Hillary and she gave me that blank look like, I don't know what you're talking about,

01:06:27.864 --> 01:06:34.739
- but I don't want to admit it. But, you know, she had no idea who I was talking about. And this is,

01:06:34.739 --> 01:06:41.892
- I'll give, we'll give the last word to Bob Hamill, because how could you not? This is from his memoir.

01:06:41.892 --> 01:06:48.350
- Those teams' deeds seem Arthurian. A college of basketball camel walk that didn't last long.

01:06:48.994 --> 01:06:57.878
- But don't let it be forgot to back-to-back unbeaten regular seasons, one ending in tears, the other

01:06:57.878 --> 01:07:07.296
- in triumph, unmatched to this day. And still unmatched going into our 50th season. And here's from the...

01:07:07.296 --> 01:07:16.447
- Now, I'm just going to ask a question here. You know, when these were first commissioned for the lobby

01:07:16.447 --> 01:07:18.046
- of Assembly Hall,

01:07:18.498 --> 01:07:29.184
- Coach Knight declined to be included. He didn't want his statue there. But now, if his family had no

01:07:29.184 --> 01:07:39.765
- objections, is it time to put the coach in with his players? All right. Well, relay that to anybody

01:07:39.765 --> 01:07:47.806
- you know at IU. Maybe we'll get that done this year. And of course, here is

01:07:49.282 --> 01:08:03.027
- And let's see if I can remember. This is Abernathy, Cruz, Buckner, May, Benson, and Bobby Wilkerson.

01:08:03.027 --> 01:08:16.773
- And that's all I got, unless you have questions or more memories. And please come down to the, yeah,

01:08:16.773 --> 01:08:18.814
- just a minute.

01:08:18.914 --> 01:08:27.554
- Please come down to the History Center and see the exhibit we have. We have 103 images up there of this

01:08:27.554 --> 01:08:36.443
- season. And I always put in a plug for the Canopy of Lights open house we have the day after Thanksgiving.

01:08:36.443 --> 01:08:45.000
- That's a fun time, refreshments. You know, especially if it's a cold, wet night, take a break and come

01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.326
- down to the History Center.

01:08:47.906 --> 01:08:58.575
- All right, thank you. Oh, ma'am? I'm sorry, you were watching. I was watching the Oscars. Oh, yeah.

01:08:58.575 --> 01:09:09.244
- And Elliot Gould came out to make a presentation for an award. And before he even did that, he said

01:09:09.244 --> 01:09:17.566
- Indiana one and he did the score. And it was quite a reception at the Oscars.

01:09:18.754 --> 01:09:27.253
- Well, how come you were watching the Oscars, not the game? Okay, anybody else? Yes, sir. This

01:09:27.253 --> 01:09:36.295
- is a sports-related topic, so I have a sports-related, not basketball, but baseball. Last night, or

01:09:36.295 --> 01:09:45.246
- this morning, I stayed awake till 3 o'clock to watch the World Series game. There were 18 innings.

01:09:45.666 --> 01:09:52.987
- The reason I stayed so late, I was going to leave about the 13th inning, but I noticed that in the Dodger

01:09:52.987 --> 01:10:00.031
- bullpen, there's only one pitcher left, a guy named Will Klein. And I had to watch him pitch, because

01:10:00.031 --> 01:10:07.006
- he used to play at North. He's from Bloomington. The guy that was the winner of that game last night

01:10:07.006 --> 01:10:14.120
- or this morning was from Bloomington. And his grandfather, who some of you may know, was Mickey Klein,

01:10:14.120 --> 01:10:15.294
- who did a lot of

01:10:15.490 --> 01:10:43.422
- All right. Thank you. Yes, sir. Yeah.

01:10:46.722 --> 01:11:15.102
- Do you want to give him the microphone so we can hear? Oh, Abernathy did a great job guarding

01:11:15.810 --> 01:11:24.831
- Richard Washington, and the Philadelphia paper said that he should be on the Philadelphia Flyers hockey

01:11:24.831 --> 01:11:33.939
- team, because he was so rugged. And didn't he hurt his ankle in that, or knee or something in that game,

01:11:33.939 --> 01:11:43.134
- and didn't know if he could get back? Yeah. But yeah, after Benson got in foul trouble. OK, anybody else?

01:11:48.674 --> 01:11:55.973
- Oh, yes, ma'am. OK, you had a picture of Nancy Knight. She sat two rows in front of us for all that

01:11:55.973 --> 01:12:02.762
- season. And I have never met such a religious woman in my life. She would carry in with her,

01:12:02.762 --> 01:12:10.281
- I could you not, something like, I don't know, close to 20 stuffed animals for good luck. Oh, yes. And

01:12:10.281 --> 01:12:17.726
- she was, and they sat in the seat beside her. She had piled them up. And usually she had the younger.

01:12:18.210 --> 01:12:24.285
- son with her and not the older one. But she, I mean, every game she swept that out and prayed. I've

01:12:24.285 --> 01:12:30.482
- never seen anybody so religious at a basketball game. I'm not kidding you. And we would watch her and

01:12:30.482 --> 01:12:36.618
- the ushers were really good. They would wait on her. You know, they would help carry her animals and

01:12:36.618 --> 01:12:42.754
- all these things down there. But I do believe she had one stuff per thing for each player, you know,

01:12:42.754 --> 01:12:44.030
- not voodoo doll, but

01:12:44.290 --> 01:12:51.147
- But she was so nervous, and I thought, I'd hate to go home to that. It could be really hard if they

01:12:51.147 --> 01:12:58.347
- didn't win and didn't play. But she, I mean, every game we would watch her. And she was, she loved every

01:12:58.347 --> 01:13:05.205
- one of those boys. And I think without her support, Bobby would not have been the Bobby he was. She

01:13:05.205 --> 01:13:06.782
- really totally let him

01:13:07.202 --> 01:13:14.524
- back up and take over in her home life. That was a whole different thing. But to see those boys win,

01:13:14.524 --> 01:13:21.846
- she's never been as happy as she was then. It was wonderful. Yeah. I'm surprised there was never any

01:13:21.846 --> 01:13:30.110
- picture taken of all those animals. I'll have to look again through the negatives and see if I can find some. OK.

01:13:32.706 --> 01:13:39.469
- So this isn't the same year, but I'd like to know. Was anybody actually at the game where Bobby threw

01:13:39.469 --> 01:13:46.498
- the chair? I was. Yeah, several people. We had really good seats. It was my boss's seat, so on the floor,

01:13:46.498 --> 01:13:53.129
- catacorded from where Bobby was across the court. And I remember I looked up. There was a foul that

01:13:53.129 --> 01:14:00.091
- happened. For some reason, I looked at the band just for a second. And my sister-in-law, who was sitting

01:14:00.091 --> 01:14:02.014
- next to me, said, oh my god.

01:14:02.562 --> 01:14:09.976
- And I turned around, and there was a chair floating on it. And Bobby said he wanted to give his seat

01:14:09.976 --> 01:14:17.316
- to an older lady there, I think, something like that. But anyway, oh, and I also remember the crowd

01:14:17.316 --> 01:14:24.729
- went totally silent at the moment he threw it, just for a second, and then just exploded. I mean, it

01:14:24.729 --> 01:14:32.510
- was the loudest noise. Let me get this guy, and then I'll come back. On top of what Mike was saying, I've

01:14:32.706 --> 01:14:40.968
- I've always thought that that game that he threw the chair to the lady, that was the first game that

01:14:40.968 --> 01:14:49.147
- he came out not wearing a sport coat. He was wearing the red sweater. And it was my opinion that he

01:14:49.147 --> 01:14:57.409
- intentionally wanted to get thrown out of that game. He had some reason he didn't want to coach that

01:14:57.409 --> 01:14:59.454
- day for something. Yeah.

01:15:00.002 --> 01:15:07.132
- And it was against Purdue. And that's why he was going to get thrown out. He just had the opportunity

01:15:07.132 --> 01:15:14.193
- to come over. And he threw that chair in. And she was standing over there. And he wanted to give her

01:15:14.193 --> 01:15:21.323
- a chair to sit down. So I don't know. But that was the first game that came out with the red sweater.

01:15:21.323 --> 01:15:28.733
- That was in 83. Yeah. I talked to the HD photographer that was working that game. His name, John Terhune,

01:15:28.733 --> 01:15:29.502
- later went

01:15:29.826 --> 01:15:37.769
- was a photographer at Lafayette. But I was going through his negatives and I tracked him down and talked

01:15:37.769 --> 01:15:45.561
- to him and said, hey, I could see by your negatives, you were right in line with Knight. What happened

01:15:45.561 --> 01:15:53.277
- with the chair? And there was kind of a silence on the line there for a second. And he said he had it

01:15:53.277 --> 01:15:58.270
- all lined up. And when he pushed the shutter, he was out of film.

01:16:04.514 --> 01:16:12.433
- For that ball game, my seats were straight across from the team. And I was sitting on row one. And when

01:16:12.433 --> 01:16:20.505
- that chair stopped, it was about 15 feet from where my seat was. So I had a prime view of what was taking

01:16:20.505 --> 01:16:28.501
- place. Also wanted to say, when I went to Philadelphia that year, my friend and I, my wife fixed a baked

01:16:28.501 --> 01:16:33.374
- pie for us. He made ham sandwiches. And we took our Volkswagen.

01:16:33.698 --> 01:16:43.910
- My ticket was free. And so I was the driver and a retired banker. And so we were driving down one of

01:16:43.910 --> 01:16:54.324
- the streets before the ball game. And I saw a $20 bill flowing across the street. So that paid for our

01:16:54.324 --> 01:17:01.502
- gas back home. Anybody else? Something to share? Let me get over here.

01:17:06.594 --> 01:17:19.200
- Yes, sir. I purchased the chair at a surplus auction at IU. Do you still have it? Oh, very good. Do

01:17:19.200 --> 01:17:31.805
- you sit in it? Oh, god, though. OK, anything else? Oh, someday you might consider a donation to the

01:17:31.805 --> 01:17:33.822
- History Center.

01:17:41.570 --> 01:17:49.531
- is it the game that they won in New Orleans when they won the final four? But the actual game, the first

01:17:49.531 --> 01:17:57.189
- game, was better than the second game. You know how they play? No, they play to see who gets, no, to

01:17:57.189 --> 01:18:05.150
- see who's going to be in the final game. The semifinal, thank you. The semifinal was a much better game,

01:18:05.150 --> 01:18:08.638
- but boy, that was a fun night in New Orleans.

01:18:10.114 --> 01:18:20.435
- I don't see how you could get much funner than a shot at the buzzer win. Anybody else? Okay. Well, thank

01:18:20.435 --> 01:18:30.560
- you very much. And we have a lot of, we have even more photos of the 81 and 87 championships. So just,

01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:35.966
- you know, you can look forward to that. We'll be back.
