Si, I was all set. I had my flag. I got in the pamphlet and the mail the week before. A beautiful weekend
was planned at the Polish-American Suds Festival in Panawonomi, Wisconsin. I'd plan to show you the
footage this very week. Well, things happen for a reason, don't they? And although it's impossible to
draw a straight line between my broken carburetor and the Monroe County Fall Festival, let's try, shall we?
You're going to have to tell me the story here about how you got involved in collecting a lot of Coca-Cola
stuff. We've collected them for years and years and years. How did you start? What was the first piece
that you got? Oh, goodness, probably trays.
Now, these are reproductions. These are reproductions. Now, everyone should have the IU Tower.
That's right. All colleagues. That's still Bobby when he had brown hair. That's right. Now, in Philadelphia,
these were selling as empty little mini-coat cases. See the nails? Yes, and they had little bottles.
I remember that. And they had bottles in them, but they were plastic molded together, $35. And I thought, geez.
We have the miniature cases. We'll sell them for $9.50 and throw in the toothpicks. Now, what lady wouldn't
like to have one of those for the shelf? I wonder. For kids and table? I wonder. Actually, my image
of what Santa Claus looks like comes a lot from those old ads. Sure. It never quite looks that good
in the department store. That's right. And of course, we have the Sprite yo-yo. This is the yo-yo.
Yeah, if you ever use the yoyo. Okay, now here's a question for you. Can you remember the first Coca-Cola
you ever had? The first Coca-Cola you ever bought? Well, you've been a Republican for how long?
Well, I have to tell you about my age. I've been a Republican for 50 years. 50 years? Well, that's a
long time. So you've always voted Republican. That's quite a record. No, I voted for Kennedy. You did,
huh? Well, so you feel good about the election this year? I certainly do, sure. Well, good luck to you.
I hope things go OK for you. Thank you kindly. It's always good to be on the winning side. It certainly is, sure.
Hi, how are you doing? We're from Channel 3 and thought we'd ask you a few questions. Just finished
talking to Republicans and thought we'd walk across the way here and talk to you all. How does it feel?
I guess you guys are coexisting peacefully, he said, at least until November, huh? There hasn't been
a Democrat in the State House for a long time. Twenty years. Twenty years. I imagine you have a pretty
good feeling about that.
It's a 30 gallon kettle and we start out with 30 gallon of cider and boil it down to about 15 gallon
and then we put 15 gallon of apple sauce in that and boil it down again about half.
So we end up with approximately 12 to 15 gallon of apple butter. This is great. So how long has your
family been making this? We started just four years ago. Four years ago. So this kettle is heating the
mixture and what does the churning do? Keeps it from burning.
Just like when you cook anything, you don't want it to burn. So this is what does it. It's a copper
kettle. And once it burns in the copper kettle, then you have to dump it out and start all over again.
That's happened to you before? No. It hasn't happened yet. Not yet. So then you can can this and store
it for a while. Right. Do you ever find yourself with too much apple butter? No, we never have enough.
You never have enough.
Last year, we didn't have any for ourselves. We sold it on, so we cooked us a batch at home. They always
say the butcher's dog is the one who starves. That's a good example. 1 Peter 5 and 8 says, to be sober
and to be vigilant, for your adversary the devil is walking about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he
may devour.
by listening to a lot of this music over and over and over again, and then little by little, because
that's how it ever even happened to me, then I started into the drug scene.
you're no longer sober, and you're no longer vigilant, and even in alcohol, and you believe. I mean,
you actually believe in the country. They're superheroes today. John Baker has been an evangelist for
the last seven years, and I've been in jail and prison evangelism for the last five years.
long before I ever gave my heart to God. I played in rock and roll bands and I've always been musically
minded. I write songs and I've made five recordings myself. But we see the change in America and we
believe that it all starts right here in rock music. How long have you lived here? About 12 years.
12 years, huh? Where are you from originally?
Detroit, Michigan? Yeah. So you moved from a pretty big city to a small town. How did that come about?
Well, I just moved. How do you think you moved? Well, a lot of people like to stay in a large city all
their lives, but you moved from a... Oh, I was in larger cities than that before. Yeah, I was in New
York. New York City? You lived in New York City for a while? Yeah.
I liked it there. So after all that traveling, all that moving around, you finally come to Ellisville,
Indiana. How did you get here? How did you come to choose Ellisville as a place to live? I didn't choose
it. I come here, that's all. You just came here, huh? Yeah, I was going to go ahead and go to Indianapolis,
which is a big city, and I said that's too big for nobody because nobody that's anybody is in Indianapolis.
And so I said, the best thing to do is get out of there and look for something nicer and smaller. So
I came to Bloomington. And then they found out that there's a lot of homes here for sales, so I come
up here. And that's how I'm here. Well, that's great. What did you do when you were in Detroit? What
was your occupation? Oh, investigator. You were a private investigator? Not a private investigator for
an insurance company.
That's good. That's interesting work. So it took you all over the country then? It did. It took me all
over. So you've traveled around a lot and seen a lot of the country and traveled around the world in
different places. How would you rate Allittsville as a place to live compared to other places you've
lived in your life? I would compare, this stands out in comparison as far as any other city is concerned.
Because all cities are the same as this, but this has only got one feature here that the other cities
haven't. Here, they don't want to grow. Here, they don't want to expand. Here, when you talk to older
people, they say, oh, we like it just the way it is. You see what I mean? So you don't have to worry
about it, because if the council has anything in mind, the people here kill it. You see what I mean?
So you're in good hands when you're right here.
Or in the other cities, if you go to, like I've been in smaller towns, too. Now, I was up in Adrian,
Michigan, which is a good-sized town, but it has a couple of factories there. And people like to be
where there's factories so they can go to work. Right. People here don't like factories because there's
no work. Here, they like to fool around, take it easy, and watch for storms or rain or anything like
that. And turn around and say, oh, hopefully we don't get a thunderstorm.
They'll go about their business afterwards. I'm on the air. Oh, hello, everybody. Hello. Thanks for
talking to us. Martha Parks Jumay. And Martha, you worked for, what did you say, 27 years at the New
Mode shop? Oh, about 30 years I worked. 30 years at New Mode, which is beyond Square and Bloomington.
And you used to do the teens and the pre-teens. 7 to 14, the pre-teens.
And after finishing that career, you went on to bake pies. I baked pies for 60 years. 60 years, huh?
Actually, I should, while Jeff is shooting Martha here... Don't shoot me, yeah. When you came in, I
wondered if... It's only a technical term, Martha. Don't worry. We're going to treat you really nice.
This is an extraordinary
coconut cream pie that was made from scratch. It was. Okay, Martha, first question is, where did you
get the recipe? Nobody passed it on to you? No, no, I watched Mother make them. You watched Mom make
them? I just put it in. Was this your mom's specialty? No. She used to bake all the time? Everything.
Everything was my mother's specialty. Sunday dinner.
I'm sure it doesn't apply to the women at this table, but there aren't many women who can really put
on a good Sunday spread anymore. Maybe eating with the last three women in the United States who can
do it. Make sure you get this on film, Jeff. Is this your favorite type of pie to bake?
Okay, what's your favorite? Chocolate. Chocolate pie? Dorothy was making the chocolate when I got here.
Gosh, this is good. So she said Martha makes some coconut pies and some pumpkin and pumpkin is my least
favorite pie of anything. The truth is that you got up at 4.30 in the morning? No, I got here about
6.30. 6.30, you got to sleep late. And ordinarily I sleep about 9.30 again. So do I. That was good for
her this morning.
Well, I couldn't believe that I could get up. But there were a lot of women you said here that were
here? Oh, sure. They were here when I got here. Before the sun was up. They were already baking when
I got here. They were baking up here in this little kitchen over here. I'll just shoot later. We just
had two stoves. Two stoves. And out of that, you baked how many pies this morning? Let's see.
There was 31. There were 35. 37 pies. Two compers. Two compers.
Well, maybe we'll get maybe one other person and I'll lock myself up here with the 37 pies and see what
I can do. Would you like to have a piece of that pie? That's a good idea. This will do wonders for you,
wonders for you. This is marvelous, marvelous pie. So, you've never bought pie from a store? No, not me.
You can tell the difference blindfolded, right? Yes, our cake either. I don't buy boxes of anything.
If I'm going to cook it, I cook it. You would have served, what, Vietnam? Well, no, I was in the zone.
I just happened to be in Cuba. In Cuba? Yeah, in Cuba during the Bay of Pigs, sorry to say, and also
the Cuban Missile Crisis.
We were at Guantanamo? Yes sir. And this was in 1962? 1962. That was a pretty interesting time. We were
very close to war. President Kennedy and Mr. Khrushchev. It was sort of a trying time for us down there
too because we didn't radio silence and we really didn't know what was happening
We didn't know anything about it until we got back to the States at the time. You were in the U.S. Navy?
Yes, sir. We brought back all the dependents from Guantanamo Bay at the time. We brought the women and
children back from down there. It was getting ready for war is what it was at the time. That's the way
that they had looked at it.
So tell us a little bit about the Bay of Pigs invasion. Now, that was an operation by a group of Cuban
nationals that were based in Florida. And with some help, I guess, from the U.S. military, mostly strategic
help and transport help, they made a landing, I guess. Right, they did make the landing.
We were set offshore, but we were told that we wouldn't be involved. Alls we were was sort of a delivery
service for the Cuban nationals, is what it was. We delivered approximately about 15,000 Cuban nationals
on the shore. Some of them made it, some of them didn't.
It was a pretty sad scene. You waited offshore. Could you see the hostilities going on? We couldn't.
We couldn't. We set off 10 miles off. Our guns could have reached it. We set just far enough off where
the guns of the ship could reach it, but we didn't. We were told that we wouldn't fire. The guns weren't
even ready to fire, so we were just there as a delivery service.
When the hostilities and the action was over at the Bay of Pigs, you basically served as medical? Right,
and then we started evacuations then. We brought back probably two-thirds of what we took over there.
Most of them didn't even hit the beach. Most of them were taken prisoner before, just as they'd come on shore.
You might have been worried at the time that you would have been even indirectly involved in it. Right.
Just by being in the vicinity. Right. That was the whole thing. We were afraid that if we were attacked,
we didn't know at the time whether we would fight back or not even. It was sort of a sticky situation,
really. It was not very well thought out. It was something that was just
You know, there's no telling where the ideas on riding on air eventually end up.
I know this is a limited access station, but hey, I'm sure you've all heard the story of the Hindenburg
broadcast that was trapped inside that radio, purchased in an Omaha garage sale in 1973. No telling
where these waves journey to. Like, for instance, to the household of the Hodskins. Someone named Hodskin
is responsible for drawing the Henry comic strip, Behold the Herald Telephone, Monday, September 19,
1988. In the first frame,
Henry's walking down the street past Ralph's Cajun restaurant. In the window is a sign that says, try
our blackened fish. Henry goes home, and in the third frame, he sees a toaster ejecting two pieces of
burnt toast. In the final frame, Henry has a booth outside of his house where he's selling pieces of
Henry's Cajun toast. Truth stranger than fiction.
five episodes back, as I remember. Ah. Ooh. A beautiful example of Cajun toast, burned and hot, ready
for butter, and of course, ready for our crew. As in most good cooking programs, I always like to share
the final results with the camera crew. Jennifer, bring the butter. Time to chow down. Well, I'll be generous.
We'll call it square. After all, Henry's given me some big laughs over the years. Very few as big as
this one, though. If this were 35 years ago, and you were a 13-year-old Catholic paperboy in suburban
Cleveland, this is what you'd want to see under the tree, a 1952 Columbia Deluxe. Now, are you absolutely
sure you're going to get anything this beautiful for Christmas?
Hey, he taught John Wayne everything he knew. Sexist? His films probably ruined more women's lives than
Donna Reed. But simplistic. Watch out. John Ford was Katharine Hepburn's lover. He spoke five languages
fluently. If I can forgive Ray Charles for singing at the White House, do you think? It must be Christmas.
this quarter to be me. Wake up. Come here boy. What's your name? I'm Dexter. Who gave you that? Mr.
with reflection.
of our path by eating up all the fat hens in the whole bunch and leaving us nothing but a lot of old
skinny Dominic roosters. You remember, boys? Come to think of it,
I don't get on your high horse that way, you know, we ain't in a great big hurry, but, uh, interesting
about her, what are you, what are you charged with at most? Nothing good, but I wasn't mad I'm chicken
shawarma, I'm just fishing. Fishing? Why were you fishing?
Come here, what do you use for bait? Oh, I've got a hunk of beef liver. Beef liver? Yeah, I have to
take the beef liver and put it on the hook and chuck it out there, let them out of the place, feed them
nothing, feed them, then you put some more on that and chuck it out there, and then they think they're
gonna get that for nothing and you're just, you're catching them long as you got some liver. And I've
been out there all the time, I don't care nothing about that liver.
his clothes got to take them in the house. Yes, Lord, got to get out that old ironing board, fix them
up for the jets to wear. Yes, Lord, that's what I want to do.
What do you mean he's been feeding you? What have we got for supper?
With a diploma, you're now looking at a full-fledged member of the bar. Let me look at you.
Hmm. Full-fledged, my gizzard. Yeah, I know you. You know, you better get your britches half-sold, because
you're going to sit around a long dive before you get your first client. Well, I don't mind, Uncle Billy.
You know what happened to me before I got my first client, don't you? Lord, I sat through two Republican
administrations before I
a plan. Just doing a little practice in here for the championship. I got Jeff here, he's doing the retrieving
for me. Me and Herman Felsberg is going to play against Jimmy Bagby and Doc Lake. Two of them balls
down there, will you Jeff? Two? I'm going to show you what had happened to Jimmy Bagby now. I just want
to show you how
Oh, that's fine. Just take your button shoes with you and just step that off and see just how full it is.
still. In this morning. I didn't but I could but. I think. I want to ask you a question. Will you please
tell us why you didn't answer my letters I've got to really I have to tell the truth the whole truth
and nothing but the truth so help you.
You know why. Well, I know, is it? You've changed since I went away. Well, that isn't it, Rome. It's...
It's just that we've grown up. You mean you don't like me anymore? Oh, Rome. Well, if my mother or anybody
has said anything... Oh, Ellie May, I mean... Well, I'm old enough to choose my own friends.
Please let me go. We've got to get this thing settled once and for all. I've got to go in, really, I have.
I'm coming back tonight and find out what it's all about. You can. I have an engagement. Who with? Fleming
Talley. Well, how about tomorrow night? Wrong. It's no use. All right. That's the way you feel about
it. You can sit right there. We understand each other. That's all right. That's all right. We don't
really need no more practice for them old men. Besides, that exertion calls for a duel.
Wait for him unless young folks has changed since I was skirmishing around He won't be back for quite
a while Eat that a pretty sight Say nothing pretty in the world and two young folks in love in the spring
Oh my lord, did you got any sentiment? Did you got no girl?
Jim would never love to stand around here talking about a goat or something. But you're mint. What about
my mint? The goat in your mint bed. In my mint bed? What is it? The goat. The goat. Actin' like you.
Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you.
Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you.
Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you.
Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you.
Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin' like you. Actin'
going to come in here and eat up my mint bed there. I bet he must have been the ruination of a million
julep. You and your precious mint julep. A circuit court judge. Where's your dignity? Dignity? I don't
reckon the priest family will ever have to worry about dignity, Carrie, not as long as you're alive
and kicking. Well, it's a good thing somebody in this family
you that he saved the family name. He wouldn't be fooling around the front yard with a ghost. That's
not what I came for. Have you seen Rome? Rome? Rome? Oh, it appears like I did see that son of yours
around here a while ago. I expect he's downtown now, you know, strutting around, showing off his button
shoes. Now don't you play possum with me, as if I didn't know you'd been encouraging that
If you had the biggest heart of any woman in the world, I'd think you're the most suspicious creature
that ever come down to fight. Never mind that. You come up on the porch. I want to talk to you. If I
didn't know that's the way you felt about it, I wouldn't have hurried home so fast. I'm sorry, Ron.
After all you had your career, your family, everything in the world that matters to you right here.
I don't think you care what matters to me. I'm not a woman to beat about the bush. This business of
Rome and that girl next door have got to stop. What have you got against early May? She's an awful sweet
girl, it seems to me. She's got gumption and she teaches coo and supports herself. I don't want to be unkind.
in Kentucky. Well, I've never heard that it meant intolerance. It means good stock and family pride.
Do you know the kind of stock she comes from? Yeah. Her ma come to this town penniless and died giving
birth to Ellie Mae. I remember the night. She was afraid little woman. Wasn't any bigger than Ellie
Mae is now.
Mr. Sporty. But who was her father? Well, nobody don't rightfully know. A family may not mean anything
to you, but it means a whole lot to me. I'm not going to have my grandchildren coming to the world under
a cloud. You haven't by any chance picked Hard Maydo as a grandpappy, have you? Oh, I know you've never
liked Senator Maydo, but you can't say anything against his folks.
Virginia's a lovely girl. She's always been crazy about Rome. He could do a lot worse. Well, I guess
me and Rome, we ain't got anything to say about it. I knew you'd come around to my way. You're going
to stay for supper, are you, Carrie? Not tonight, thank you, William. The daughters of the Confederacy
are having a chicken supper at Cape Maydew, and I'm late already.
Looks like you daughters get more ferocious every year towards Yankees and fried chicken. You got your
badge on there. Mighty pretty. Good night, William. Sometimes I think you women got more badges and
medals out over the soldiers' beds.
for nobody, either man or bird lived by themselves. Uncle Billy, why didn't you come and live with us
after Aunt Margaret died? Oh, well, I never could stand him old cookin'. Oh, fine sling over there on
that other pole. I wouldn't be surprised if that ain't a pretty girl.
another fella tonight. Yeah, he may show his pudding. Well, it gets hurled. Certainly have to do some
prancing. He can't sit around and look glum all the time. There he is now. Who? That flim tally.
The barber? Yeah. He was awful full-shaded.
Now, there ain't nothing to get your mind off women folks like work. Well, you run back in my library
there and get my old Kentucky code of statute. It's an old calfskin book up on the top shelf there.
It gets me. That's brand, man. Long years. I'm just going to see if I can't stop him.
I can have all the fun I want right here at home. Now guess who I was talking about?
Yeah. You. Know what you'd be doing around here. But. What are you talking about who's there. To.
He doesn't shoot him, that's all. There ain't a thing that I can do about it. My job don't stop until
they've got him all laid out in the mall. Full of buckshot, cold and dead, and ready for burial. Then
I stepped in.
Oh, maybe I didn't have one. Kelly Mae's waiting for you over there. What? How do you know?
Are you sure? Now, don't be standing here like a Jaybird gawking when I tell you she's waiting. Go on
out of here and go.
I found out I couldn't lick the whole United States. I come back here to my hometown and I put up my
shingles. It wasn't long before I was sitting on that bench. Maybe I did have a hanker for the spirit
of the law.
As far as I know, nobody ever found cause to complain till now. Now you, you jury, you forget everything
that I've said. And my feelings has no place in the records of this trial.
You will excuse me either side has any objection. I'd like to ask the Honorable Floyd Fairley. If he
won't come up here and take. Take him up on the bench.
But once you three all armed with billiard cues... Well, never heard of nobody playing pool without
them. It's just like Flam and Joe said. He come in looking for trouble. You don't like the defendant, do you?
of the witness.
give you the limit when you've got to tell the truth. Don't you see you don't. Tell them anything.
Yes I. Lied all the way through. They lied to it was three against one billy gainers by room three against
one of the fear courtroom.
Kind of caught me red-handed there. Could I, you know, kind of in vagal, been a long tiresome day and
it's mostly me. No, thank you, William. I appreciate your sympathy. You know, I kind of thought that
you'd be working on your Memorial Day address.
of itself. What I'm worried about is this poor devil of a gillis. You know gillis? My trade takes me
into queer quarters sometimes. I feel just as sorry for that fellow gillis as you do. I'm plumb out
of it then. Hod got the best of me and sure did. The case is closed and it's all settled. I don't think Hod will
He'd be fool enough to reopen the case for nobody or nothing. William, I have a duty to perform. The
Christian's duty. I'm going to violate the sacred confidence of another. I'm going to break a pledge
of secrecy because it's the only course that I see that lies before me.
Mr. Nasty. Twenty five years ago. The judges show him. Misery. Reckonful things been acting just right.
Maybe his stomach's been complaining and he needs a party this night.
Let him know how he got there. That's all I got to do. Wait a minute. Can you play Dixie on that thing
there? I couldn't cause. I played Dixie with marching through Georgia. Marching through Georgia. I got
you out of one lynching. I couldn't cause. I thought I was going to get through Georgia. If you're playing
marching through Georgia, I'll join the lynching.
For the time being, I'm an ordinary member of the bar. In good standing? Not ordinary, sir, but absolutely
in good standing. Thank you, sir. Thank you kindly. Then I have the honor of announcing myself as Associate
Counsel for the Defense.
has been reopened. Mr. Gillis, were you always a man of turbulent and violent nature? I always left
them alone, I always left me alone. Is that so? What was the name of the man you once upon a time murdered?
I never looked on it, there's no, no it wasn't murdered.
a life. I won't tell you no matter what you ask me you don't need to. Judge priest. No questions your
honor. Billy.
I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, not the whole truth, and take down plenty of his court.
I do. Reverend Brand, before you come to this town, what was your occupation? In my early manhood, before
I took holy orders, I had the honor to be a captain of artillery in the late war. In the war of the
rebellion?
the seven confederates. That's right.
of that great conflict must awaken every true Kentuckian's bosom. I fail to see any possible connection
As many of you know, I am a Virginian. On the day my state seceded from the Union, I enlisted. I was
a private in Penn's Virginia Battery. By the latter end of the third year, I was in command of that
battery. All the officers ranking me had been killed or disabled. We lost heavily at Chancellorsville.
In Fredericksburg, we were almost wiped out. We kept our field pieces. We kept our pieces until the
end. But we had not sufficient men to man those guns. No anywhere to turn for more men. There were no
more men left to come in. The Confederacy in 64 was robbing both the cradle and the grave for cannon fodder.
I got temporary leave and went to Richmond to see our war governor. I said to him, sir, I've come to
you to ask for men to serve my guns. He laughed and said, tell me where they are to be found. I said,
among the chain gangs from the state penitentiary. He said, you've come too late, young man.
freed every convict that might conceivably be trusted with freedom. They are left only delightless,
and I dare not turn them loose. They are working on the guard, building defenses for you to fight behind.
He opposed me, but I argued with him. Finally, I won. He gave me authorization, signed it, and with
his own hand,
of the sovereign state of Virginia. I rode back to the line, sir, and I found my chain gang. I told
them to drop their tools and line up before me. I told them, if you go with me, you go to face a hell
of destruction and suffering and death. But I said, if you do go,
The future, if you survive, is in your own hands. And I promise you this much, if you stand fast, if
you do your duty, if bravely and honorably you acquit yourselves as men, then such of you as live through
to the end, and some of you will live, are not to come back to this. It's for you to decide.
see every one of them. And as time went on, they won for themselves the name of the battalion
you're in the back
away from the Monroe County Fall Festival. A pretty piece of rope, a jar of homemade apple butter, a
sturdy loaf of bread, and a wonderful piece of homemade pie from the Rebeccas. Hey, they could have
hung me with a full stomach and a smile on my face. Till next week, walk slow, breathe deep, treat yourself
real good.