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- We're grateful to Drs. Londergan and Victoria for agreeing to present for us today. Steve and Tim's

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- presentation is titled, Live Free and Die, Why Are Voters in Red Counties Dying Younger Than in Blue

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- Counties? Tim Londergan is an emeritus professor of physics at Indiana University, former chair of the

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- Department of Physics, associate dean of the graduate school, director of the Indiana University Nuclear

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- Theory Center, and director of the Wells Scholars

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- He's also a co-founder of Concerned Scientists of India at the University of Cooke. It supports

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- evidence-based science, funding for science research, and policy-based, best available scientific

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- information. Our faculty member, Tim, also served as a consultant for numerous research centers around

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- the world, including the Baba Atomic Research Center in Mumbai, India, Los Alamos Laboratory, University

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- of Adelaide. Steve Vigdor is also an emeritus professor

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- at the Brookhaven National Library for Nuclear and Particle Physics. At Brookhaven, he oversaw operations

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- of the relativistic heavy-ion glider and all high-energy physics research in the laboratory, including

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- extensive contributions to the Atlas detector and the large-capacity glider. He's the author of the

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- book Signatures of the Artist, The Vital Perfections that Make Our University Powerful. Steve and Tim,

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- the interface between science and policy. They expose the cynical label of science to the language.

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- Please join me in welcoming them. Thank you, Jane. Thanks so much for all of your efforts and for the traveling

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- title of our talk, Live, Free, and Die. Why are voters in red counties dying younger than those in blue

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- counties? We'll bombard you with data today to try to prove our point, show you what's going on, and

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- you can draw your own conclusions as to the reasons behind the invincible show. Many of you nowadays

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- may think that you're living in actually two countries, a red state country and a blue state country,

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- and what we want to show you today

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- to health outcomes, that's actually quite literally true, that you find very different outcomes in red

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- and blue areas. We're trying to show you all of this and why in our talk today. Here is an example of

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- this. This graph shows the life expectancy in two states, Connecticut and Oklahoma, from 1959 to 2019.

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- And you see that in 1959, a resident of Oklahoma

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- would live on average about one year longer than one in Connecticut. However, they started to diverge.

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- They have continued to diverge. So that today, our resident in Connecticut has a four year longer life

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- expectancy than one in Oklahoma. And it's getting bigger. And as we'll show you, if the current trends

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- continue, we expect these disparities to grow substantially.

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- on our blogdebunkingdenial.com, specifically these two, Live Free and Die and the Deployment Divide.

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- So, here's a disclaimer that we use. I don't represent official news of anybody who hears anything.

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- Although they should. So here is a page from our blog, Debunking Denial. By now we have over

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- 100 posts on our blog on the following categories. And the two categories relevant today are demographics

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- and partisan divides over science. I want to mention that our talk follows basically after Rob Stone's

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- talk, Medicare for All. And it precedes a public panel that will be held on Tuesday, Vaccines in a Changing

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- Political Landscape.

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- 5 to 6.30 p.m. on Tuesday here in the Monroe County Public Library. You've got a typo in the title.

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- Yeah, I just noticed that. Thank you. Oh, and by the way, that reminds me. If you have comments, questions,

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- challenges, please feel free during the talk. You can fix that before the next presentation.

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- Yes, thank you. Okay, so here's an outline of our presentation. We'll show you that life expectancy

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- in general is increasing worldwide, but in the U.S. there's evidence of a growing partisan mortality

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- gap and education gap in the U.S. We'll talk a little bit about the impact of COVID-19 on this. We'll

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- talk in great detail about chronic disease prevalence in the U.S.

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- And we'll show you the impact of state government control, state government laws and attitudes. And

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- then we'll talk about some specific situations, smoking restrictions and lung cancer, gun laws and firearm

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- deaths, abortion laws and maternal infant mortality, medication expansion, constant medical infrastructure.

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- And we'll just mention at the end, vaccine hesitancy and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., which could be

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- top all on its own. And then future trends in summary. So life expectancy has been generally increasing

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- worldwide. Here's a graph from 1800 to 2023. The red curve here is US population. The blue is Europe.

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- The green is Asia and the black.

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- Sorry, I'm colorblind, so please turn around. It's beautiful. Or you can shout out if I miss that. Anyway,

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- until about the start of the Industrial Revolution, populations were more or less static. They began

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- to increase in Europe and the US rapidly after, in about 1870 or thereabouts, and have increased since.

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- Populations in Asia, for example, remains

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- for a longer period of time that have now shot up. There's many reasons for this increase. Improved

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- vaccines and medical treatments. Improved air and water quality. And in the U.S., that's the particularly

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- environmental protection agencies, clean air and clean water laws. Improved personal hygiene and nutrition.

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- Improved access to hospitals and healthcare and insurance. Yes. What happened in Asia?

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- Chinese family. That is all Chinese. And this is Spanish food. So in the U.S., the health care, mainly

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- government, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare, and then improved education.

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- All of these have led to this increase in life expectancy in the US, Europe, and around the world. Yes?

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- I was an electorate in Sweden by an English public health president who said hygienic behavior is the

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- number one reason for the change from about 1920. Really? Could be. Could be. Can you repeat the question,

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- please? I'm sorry. I'll repeat it. The statement was that probably the single most

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- which I don't know. It certainly sounds believable. Yes? Yeah, Rob. There's a marvelous book that I

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- always recommend called Mirage of Health from 1959 by, what's his name? Rene Dubot. He was an epidemiologist

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- and microbiologist. So he knew a lot about the antibiotics

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- He wrote this book making this exact point that actually it's been public health that is the biggest

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- thing, hand washing and cleaning, particularly separating sewage from fresh water. But he had this wonderful

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- quote in there where he said, it is easy to believe one is emptying the ocean with a bucket when the

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- tide is going out. Thank you. OK.

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- So lately, however, the US has fallen behind with respect to other developed countries, the OECD countries.

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- This shows from 2003 to 2023, life expectancy, the light blue dots are the average of the OECD countries,

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- and the dark blue are the US. And you'll see that they're essentially equal in 2003, but then they begin

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- to diverge. And they diverge even more during COVID, where the US responds to COVID.

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- particularly in terms of deaths, was much higher than in the other OACP countries. And here, Rob Stone

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- showed this as well, despite this poor health outcomes in the US, despite the fact that in the US, we

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- spent our capita two and a half times more than the OACP average, and 10 times more than countries like Turkey.

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- Yes. What is those? OECD? Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. That's in the fine

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- print. It's in the fine print, yeah. This is a test. I test, yeah. The U.S. currently ranks 30th out

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- of 30. Oh yeah, Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

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- It's a group of 38 countries, developed countries. And we ran out of 38 OECD countries in life expectancy

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- despite the tremendous amount that we spend on health care. Now, in the US, life expectancy is strongly

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- correlated with the income and education. And here is a slide showing how much it depends on income.

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- So this slide shows

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- the expected age of death for US citizens who reach the age of 40 versus the household income percentile

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- from zero to 100. So for example, men whose income is in the bottom 1% in the US have a life expectancy

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- of 72.7 years, men in the top 1%

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- have a life expectancy of 87.3 years. They have a 15-year difference. Women in the US, in the lowest

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- 1%, 78.8 years life expectancy. In the top 1%, 88.9 years. So it's a 10-year difference from around

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- 15 years from now. So you see the real strong effect of income here. Also, it depends significantly

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- on educational attainment.

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- So the bottom curve here is life expectancy for Americans who have less than a high school education.

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- Here, high school graduates in the US. Here, Americans who have some college. And here is Americans

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- with a college degree. So you see that there is about 74 to 84, about a 10 year difference depending

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- on educational attainment here. And furthermore, you see that between 2000

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- And in 2019, the only one piece that is actually increasing by an invisible amount is those with college

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- degree. So there is what Steve calls a diploma divide in the US. And higher income means access to higher

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- quality health care. We don't have a national health service. We don't have Medicare for all. And college

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- graduates have better information about health, less dangerous jobs.

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- They have generally better access to eyeballing health care, and they can work remotely during COVID.

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- So a lot of advantages here that lead to these discrepancies. But there is an increasing partisan mortality

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- gap in the US. This is the free environment we're talking about. So here, from 2001 to 2019, just before

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- COVID, the red dots here show the mortality rate.

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- deaths for 100,000 Americans in Republican counties, and the blue dots are the mortality rate in Democratic

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- counties. And we see that while there was a small gap between them in 2001, there's a really big gap

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- in 2019, and it's growing. And we'll argue later in this talk that you can expect it to grow even further

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- if current policies stay in place.

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- The effect was largest among white voters of both sexes. It was predominantly a discrepancy among white

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- voters. Here we show that. So here are the mortality rates by race or ethnicity in Republican and Democratic

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- counties from 2001 to 2019. The highest mortality rate, i.e., the lowest life expectancy is for blacks.

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- And you see there is some difference between red and blue counties, but it's not hard.

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- And it is dropping more rapidly than the white Hispanic. Yes? Have you made any attempt to disaggregate

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- this and to ask the question, what should the gap be given the educational circumstances and the revenue?

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- Well, actually, have we made any effort to actually unpack this to find out?

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- You know, the only thing we can say is that, as we'll show you, as the talk goes on, there are actually

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- a lot more different elements in play here than just education. And it turns out there are many intertwined

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- contributions. So it's not so trivial to unravel. But here, you see, the large discrepancy is Republicans

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- versus Democratic counties.

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- And thirdly, you see the Hispanic case, where you see very little difference between red and blue counties.

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- But you also see what's called the Hispanic parasites, which is the following. That Hispanics in the

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- US, as a group, have less educational attainment, less household income, and less access to high quality

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- medical care than whites. But they live longer.

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- Now, we're told that this difference between Hispanic and white became much smaller during COVID. So

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- we don't know whether post-COVID, this will once again separate out or whether they'll remain about

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- the same in the future. So mortality rates are also strongly correlated with community education level.

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- So what this graph here shows is

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- the mortality rate per 100,000 people versus the share of the local population of college degrees going

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- from 10% at the bottom here to 50% at the top. So they divided the US into 20 different groups every

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- 5% of the population. And each of those is shown as a dot. The blue dots are from 1990. And the straight

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- blue line is the average of those blue dots.

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- The yellow are 2000, and the brown are 2010. And you see, first of all, that this difference in mortality

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- rates is increasing as we go from 1990 to 2010. And you see that it's actually a very strong correlation.

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- So the higher percentage in your community

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- college degrees, the longer their life expectancy. And it's getting bigger. Here, we also have a growing

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- partisan college education gap. So what's shown here is all of the presidential elections from 1984

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- through 2020. So this red, I hope, is people without a college degree.

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- here is people with a college degree. And the zero line, which is right here, means equal numbers of

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- people voting as Republican and Democratic. You see that up until 2004, there were not extremely large

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- differences between people with college degrees and without college degrees and how they voted

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- for Republicans and Democrats. Starting in 2004, you see this gap

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- increasing such that in the 2020 election, people without a college degree, 20% more, voted Republican

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- than Democrat, and people with a college degree, about 13% more, voted Democrat than Republican. So

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- there is this partisan divide, which I suspect you're familiar with, and it's growing. So here, that's actually

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- Here we see that college educated Americans tend to cluster geographically. So what's shown here is

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- a graph of the U.S. and the red areas represent areas where you have more college graduates than the U.S.

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- average. And blue represent areas where you have fewer college graduates than the U.S. average.

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- And the color, the darker red means more college graduates, the darker blue.

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- It's fewer, even fewer college graduates. And you see, there is this clustering, Eastern Seaboard, New

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- England, then individual Chicago, Madison, Wisconsin, Minneapolis, Colorado, Pacific Northwest, Northern

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- California, and so on to our surprise, Southwestern Montana have high clusters

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- Is it? Yeah. It's impressive. Furthermore, you see this area where you have significantly fewer college

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- graduates than the U.S. average. And I want you to look at it carefully because you're going to see

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- this area of the country again and again and again in all the slides that show evidence, okay? So it's

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- the deep south.

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- Actually, we'll show, yes, we'll show that with respect to certain health care outcomes later. Yeah,

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- there is a definite effect. But in any case, this area, we will be seeing more and more the deep south

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- and then going up into Appalachia.

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- You know, some states will occur in various other slides, and they won't, but this particular area is

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- really outstanding in terms of having poorer health outcomes than the rest of the country. Now, this

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- is the best jobs are here. College graduates will tend to cluster here. The hotspots for college grads,

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- the red, have the best access to high quality.

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- health care, whereas the cold spots are called diuretics, aligned with geographic areas with the worst

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- health outcomes. So there are significant state by state differences in life expectancy. This is 2022,

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- and the state with the highest life expectancy in that year was Hawaii, life expectancy of 80.

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- And the state with the lowest was West Virginia, 72.2. So there is a 7.8 year difference in life expectancy,

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- depending on whether you live in West Virginia or live in Hawaii. And you see the same cluster of states

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- that occurred with respect to college graduates, deep south, going up into the Appalachian. Once again,

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- yes? I don't know whether it's possible, but can you separate out

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- In West Virginia, we'll have huge drug-related deaths during that time period. Whether it's possible

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- to attribute any of that. Yeah, we'll go through various outcomes, and we'll see that coming up again

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- later. So just for comparison, life expectancy of 80 is comparable with life expectancies in Western

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- European countries. Life expectancy of 72.2 is about that of Egypt.

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- However, you haven't seen anything yet. Now let's break it down by counties. So these are counties in

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- the US. Once again, the blue are counties that have higher life expectancy than average. And the red,

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- once again, the same. Deep South, South, Appalachia.

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- And the difference. Is there a blue dot there? Actually, quite possibly. Quite possibly. So the lowest,

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- the county with the lowest life expectancy, life expectancy is 66.8 years, and the county with the highest

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- life expectancy, 86.8 years. That's a 20 year difference. 86.8 is comparable to the countries like Monaco

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- and Singapore,

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- Longest life expectancy in any country in the world. 66.8 is about equal to Afghanistan. And where are

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- those counties? Ah, OK. They're the darkest red. So you see here, here, here. These are Native American

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- reservations. And you'll see also down here, almost equal, southwestern West Virginia.

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- a little bit. Yes? I keep thinking as you're presenting these statistics, we would be great to see by

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- census track, because thinking about our own county, for example, there are enormous discrepancies between

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- urban and rural parts of the county. Is some of this data available at the census track? Well,

00:27:42.542 --> 00:27:49.134
- we'll be sure. So there are these enormous differences that we see in a life expectancy county.

00:27:49.134 --> 00:27:50.782
- By the way, which state

00:27:51.394 --> 00:28:02.106
- has the county with the highest life expectancy. Where is Connecticut? Massachusetts. That's a good

00:28:02.106 --> 00:28:13.139
- choice, yes. It's blue out there. Massachusetts? It's Colorado. A couple of suburbs of Denver have the

00:28:13.139 --> 00:28:20.958
- highest. Sorry, in 2020. It varies from year to year. As does the state.

00:28:21.218 --> 00:28:30.394
- The state with the highest life expectancy tends to compare it to Hawaii and California. And for people

00:28:30.394 --> 00:28:39.482
- who are asking, the darkest blue dot in Indiana is Hamilton. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is.

00:28:39.482 --> 00:28:48.129
- It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is.

00:28:48.129 --> 00:28:49.982
- It is. It is. It is.

00:28:50.306 --> 00:28:57.912
- How have these changed? That's the next slide. Thank you. So here is changes in life expectancy between

00:28:57.912 --> 00:29:05.371
- 1980 and 2014. So over a 35-year period, once again, you see the same thing, right? You see this area

00:29:05.371 --> 00:29:12.903
- of the country by far the smallest life expectancy in that other areas of the country, the larger. And

00:29:12.903 --> 00:29:14.366
- therefore, you see.

00:29:22.850 --> 00:29:30.874
- And once again, we mentioned that, perhaps surprisingly, the growth in this mortality gap has occurred

00:29:30.874 --> 00:29:38.821
- mostly among white males and white females. Okay, I'm going to turn it over to Steve, who will unpack

00:29:38.821 --> 00:29:46.767
- a little more of the story. They're happy, apparently. Oh yeah, that's not all of it. There we go. So

00:29:46.767 --> 00:29:52.766
- Tim has shown you the statistics. I'm going to try to understand two things.

00:29:53.314 --> 00:30:01.187
- What are the causes of mortality that are leading to this mortality gap? And second, what are the causes?

00:30:01.187 --> 00:30:08.763
- So first, let's consider what features of health account for the growing mortality gap. And the first

00:30:08.763 --> 00:30:16.191
- thing I want to show you is something which doesn't contribute very much, and it answers one of the

00:30:16.191 --> 00:30:22.430
- questions that came before. There was a very influential book that came out in 2020

00:30:23.106 --> 00:30:31.939
- by economists Angus Heaton and Case, which argued that life expectancy in the US was stagnating largely

00:30:31.939 --> 00:30:40.518
- because white middle-aged American males without a college degree were dying what they called deaths

00:30:40.518 --> 00:30:49.267
- of despair, meaning deaths from suicide, drugs, and alcohol, from opioid deaths. Somebody asked before

00:30:49.267 --> 00:30:51.390
- about the opioid deaths.

00:30:53.730 --> 00:31:01.573
- So it turns out there is much more detail than we have time to show you in this. It turns out that is

00:31:01.573 --> 00:31:09.648
- a minor contribution to the growing mortality gap. If you look at the map again to see where the highest

00:31:09.648 --> 00:31:17.337
- rate of opioid deaths were, it's the red and yellow dots. So it's sort of the mid-Atlantic but high

00:31:17.337 --> 00:31:21.182
- incidence in New England and some in the Midwest.

00:31:21.570 --> 00:31:30.595
- not much in the South and Appalachia. So it's a different geographical distribution and turns out to

00:31:30.595 --> 00:31:39.531
- be only a minor contribution to this growing mortality gap. So it's not really opioid deaths that's

00:31:39.531 --> 00:31:48.556
- causing the problem. Okay, so while these males, white, middle-aged American males without a college

00:31:48.556 --> 00:31:51.326
- degree, often vote Republican,

00:31:51.682 --> 00:32:01.840
- These are secondary contributions. So now what we want to look at is this is a list of some of the leading

00:32:01.840 --> 00:32:11.903
- causes of mortality in the US. So heart disease on the left, cancer, those are the two big ones. Strokes,

00:32:11.903 --> 00:32:20.542
- chronic lung disease, and so forth. And the blue bars here represent the average mortality

00:32:21.154 --> 00:32:30.223
- Democratic voting counties, and the red in Republican voting counties. And the dark blue and red are

00:32:30.223 --> 00:32:39.740
- for 2001, and the lighter blue and red are for 2019. And what you see, for example, is that the mortality

00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:48.809
- gap, the difference between blue and red increases for heart disease from 2001 to 2019. It increases

00:32:48.809 --> 00:32:49.886
- for cancer.

00:32:50.242 --> 00:33:00.733
- It gets worse for lung disease. It gets worse for diabetes. It gets worse for suicide. This is a very

00:33:00.733 --> 00:33:11.121
- broad-based contribution of mortality causes to the mortality gap. So we want to investigate that in

00:33:11.121 --> 00:33:15.646
- more detail now. And let's start with coke.

00:33:16.258 --> 00:33:24.540
- So we showed you before life expectancy and mortalities up to 2019. That cut off before COVID. This

00:33:24.540 --> 00:33:32.988
- is now including COVID. You see that the life expectancy in the US dipped much more during COVID than

00:33:32.988 --> 00:33:41.270
- it did in a comparable country. Average, the US has 4.2% of the world population, but it had 17% of

00:33:41.270 --> 00:33:43.838
- COVID deaths around the world.

00:33:44.290 --> 00:33:55.076
- And that's because the U.S. government response was one, to put it. Okay, and that contributed very

00:33:55.076 --> 00:34:06.078
- strongly to a partisan mortality gap. So what is shown here, this is from May to December of 2021. So

00:34:06.078 --> 00:34:11.902
- after the first COVID vaccines were widely available,

00:34:12.610 --> 00:34:21.931
- The left plot here shows that every dot in this plot corresponds to one county in the US. And this shows

00:34:21.931 --> 00:34:30.276
- the percent of adults vaccinated in the county versus the percent that voted for Trump in the

00:34:30.276 --> 00:34:39.331
- 2020 presidential election. This is vaccinated for COVID, yes. It's COVID deaths per 100,000 again in

00:34:39.331 --> 00:34:40.574
- every county.

00:34:40.962 --> 00:34:50.990
- versus the percent voted for Trump. You see a very strong correlation so that the vaccination rate dropped

00:34:50.990 --> 00:35:00.642
- as the vote for Trump increased. In average of Biden voting counties, the blue cross here, the average

00:35:00.642 --> 00:35:08.702
- vaccine uptake was 75%, which was above the herd immunity level for COVID, excuse me.

00:35:09.218 --> 00:35:17.488
- the average of Trump voting counties, the Red Cross, the Red Cross is an unfortunate allusion, but the

00:35:17.488 --> 00:35:25.759
- Red Cross there corresponds to a vaccine uptake of 50%, which is below the herd immunity threshold for

00:35:25.759 --> 00:35:34.110
- COVID. And because of that, the death rate from COVID was about three times higher in the average Trump

00:35:34.110 --> 00:35:38.526
- voting county than in the average Biden voting county.

00:35:39.682 --> 00:35:48.450
- And the reason for that is that once the vaccines were available, the death rate in red here for unvaccinated

00:35:48.450 --> 00:35:56.741
- individuals was 10 times higher than the death rate for COVID for vaccinated individuals. So COVID only

00:35:56.741 --> 00:36:05.031
- made that mortality gap grow much more. It accelerated the mortality gap. Now we're going to go through

00:36:05.031 --> 00:36:07.422
- a number of chronic diseases.

00:36:09.122 --> 00:36:16.711
- So first, consider obesity. The darker colors here are where obesity in the states with the highest

00:36:16.711 --> 00:36:24.680
- obesity rates. So the leaders are in terms of most obesity are Mississippi, Arkansas, and West Virginia.

00:36:24.680 --> 00:36:32.876
- But in general, a lot of the red states here, which also have relatively high obesity rates, are Republican

00:36:32.876 --> 00:36:37.278
- voting states. Obesity is often correlated with diabetes.

00:36:37.762 --> 00:36:46.026
- And again, the darker colors here are the states with the highest diabetes rate, diabetes prevalence.

00:36:46.026 --> 00:36:54.777
- And it's very similar to that map that Tim showed you earlier with the states that have, or the clustering,

00:36:54.777 --> 00:37:03.365
- the low clusters of college graduates. Basically, again, the deep south up into Appalachia at the highest

00:37:03.365 --> 00:37:05.310
- prevalence of diabetes.

00:37:06.786 --> 00:37:15.094
- You're going to see a lot of maps that all look basically the same. This is chronic heart disease, still

00:37:15.094 --> 00:37:23.244
- the number one killer in the US. This is age-adjusted heart disease death rates per 100,000 people for

00:37:23.244 --> 00:37:31.710
- inhabitants over 35 years of age. County by county in the US, the darker red are the highest heart disease

00:37:31.710 --> 00:37:36.062
- death rates. And again, it's very much the same region

00:37:36.226 --> 00:37:45.008
- from the south up into Appalachia. This is chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, COPD. Again,

00:37:45.008 --> 00:37:54.622
- very similar. The darker colors, again, have the highest rate of COPD. And they're, again, in the south

00:37:54.622 --> 00:38:04.051
- and up into Appalachia. When we gave this talk to a different audience, they asked, can you correlate

00:38:04.051 --> 00:38:05.438
- the COPD rates

00:38:06.050 --> 00:38:14.373
- with the level of fine particulate matter air pollution. It turns out that there is a correlation, but

00:38:14.373 --> 00:38:22.535
- it's weak, because fine particulate matter air pollution is also quite bad in the industrial Midwest

00:38:22.535 --> 00:38:31.262
- and Southern California, where you don't see high incidences. Yeah. What would a California world have been

00:38:33.410 --> 00:38:42.923
- Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know the answer to that. There are not a lot of people there in

00:38:42.923 --> 00:38:52.721
- North America. They all snore. Maybe they all snore. I really don't know. It's a good question. So the

00:38:52.721 --> 00:39:01.854
- one thing is if you look in detail now, you do see that the South and Appalachia are not solid.

00:39:02.722 --> 00:39:10.241
- There are lighter areas in there. And that addresses a question that Pat asked earlier. And we're going

00:39:10.241 --> 00:39:17.905
- to show a lot of maps in this talk, but this is probably the single most important map. So this addresses

00:39:17.905 --> 00:39:25.279
- also a question of vital grains. Benavides et al, a couple of years ago, did an analysis by zip code.

00:39:25.279 --> 00:39:28.894
- So not even by county, but by zip code in the US.

00:39:29.282 --> 00:39:38.548
- and they analyze the prevalence of the 10 most costly chronic diseases. So that is obesity, hypertension,

00:39:38.548 --> 00:39:47.727
- high cholesterol, coronary heart disease, COPD, asthma, chronic kidney disease, diabetes, cancer, except

00:39:47.727 --> 00:39:56.382
- for skin cancer, and depression. And the brown areas here are hot spots. Those are areas where the

00:39:56.546 --> 00:40:04.273
- incidence of all these chronic diseases is much higher than the national average. And the blue dots

00:40:04.273 --> 00:40:12.155
- are cold spots. They are regions where the incidence of all these chronic diseases is much lower than

00:40:12.155 --> 00:40:20.269
- the average. And what you see is that, again, the south and up into Appalachia are regions where there's

00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:25.214
- a high prevalence of chronic diseases. But there are blue dots.

00:40:25.922 --> 00:40:34.852
- There are the big cities in the south are not affected by this chronic disease prevalence. So you see

00:40:34.852 --> 00:40:43.956
- cold spots in the Atlanta region, Nashville, Charlotte, North Carolina, Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina,

00:40:43.956 --> 00:40:52.886
- Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Texas, and at least average behavior in Little Rock

00:40:52.886 --> 00:40:54.462
- and Oklahoma City

00:40:55.042 --> 00:41:05.412
- So what we're looking at is primarily a rural South and Appalachian high prevalence of all chronic diseases.

00:41:05.412 --> 00:41:15.021
- That is a large contribution to the mortality, yes. The term costly chronic diseases, does that mean

00:41:15.021 --> 00:41:20.254
- the incident of death is the cost you're referring to?

00:41:20.610 --> 00:41:26.758
- I don't think so. I'd actually have to go back. That's the term that's used in the Benavides paper.

00:41:26.758 --> 00:41:32.907
- And I'd have to go back to see exactly what they define it as. But I think it's just overall health

00:41:32.907 --> 00:41:38.502
- care costs. It's not financially costly. It's not financially costly, is it? I would guess

00:41:38.502 --> 00:41:44.527
- it's hospitalization costs. It may be hospitalization. It's an intensive care unit, specifically,

00:41:44.527 --> 00:41:49.630
- particularly related to cancer and heart disease. There is a financial cost issue.

00:41:49.794 --> 00:42:02.442
- Huge cost, that's where most of healthcare is spending its time. White areas are areas I think are just

00:42:02.442 --> 00:42:10.590
- active, no data. Either no data or active. I suspect there's data.

00:42:22.402 --> 00:42:31.241
- Are there various places like Oxford and Mississippi that are high in the same situation, but low in

00:42:31.241 --> 00:42:39.379
- the same situation? Are Bloomington would be the same? We're not high in the same situation.

00:42:39.379 --> 00:42:48.481
- High in college. All that I can tell you is a place like Bloomington, I'm not sure exactly where Oxford

00:42:48.481 --> 00:42:51.806
- is in Mississippi, are about average.

00:42:58.850 --> 00:43:15.456
- I'm not sure what you thought. I thought that was Jackson. That's probably Jackson. Oxford is down.

00:43:15.456 --> 00:43:28.574
- Where is Oxford? Down through the south. Down through the south. I don't know.

00:43:29.122 --> 00:43:36.974
- I don't know. But basically we have a high prevalence of chronic disease, especially in rural areas

00:43:36.974 --> 00:43:44.826
- of the South and Appalachia. Turns out chronic disease prevalence is only partially correlated with

00:43:44.826 --> 00:43:53.227
- educational attainment. So we showed you educational attainment from the high end of the spectrum earlier,

00:43:53.227 --> 00:43:58.174
- the clustering of college graduates. This map is the opposite.

00:43:58.690 --> 00:44:07.508
- It's the map of where there are the largest portions of the population that have less than a high school

00:44:07.508 --> 00:44:15.989
- diploma or the equivalent. And again, you do see in the red areas the South and Appalachia, but also

00:44:15.989 --> 00:44:24.219
- a very intense area along the Texas-Mexico border, along the Indian reservations, Native American

00:44:24.219 --> 00:44:27.998
- reservations in northern Mexico and Arizona.

00:44:28.258 --> 00:44:37.922
- and in the San Joaquin Valley in California. And you don't see the chronic disease prevalence here or

00:44:37.922 --> 00:44:48.060
- here. That may be an indication of this Hispanic paradox that Tim showed you earlier because those regions

00:44:48.060 --> 00:44:57.630
- are very heavily Hispanic. So it's not only education which goes here. So next issue is how do state

00:45:00.002 --> 00:45:09.613
- It's with a reaction to a question. I'm just looking. So now we're going to go into causes. So one cause

00:45:09.613 --> 00:45:18.950
- you can ask about is how does state government impact health? So this is a complicated graph, but let

00:45:18.950 --> 00:45:28.286
- me try to take you through. These are all cause age-adjusted mortality rates in states, the dark blue

00:45:28.610 --> 00:45:36.756
- are states which have unified democratic control. That is, a democratic governor and democratic control

00:45:36.756 --> 00:45:44.745
- of both houses of the state legislature. The dark red are the opposite. They are Republican governors

00:45:44.745 --> 00:45:52.577
- and full Republican control. And the other colors are mixed situations that you don't have to worry

00:45:52.577 --> 00:45:55.710
- about right now. So focus on dark blue.

00:45:56.066 --> 00:46:03.771
- compared to the dark red 2015 through 2021. Full Republican control gives you a higher mortality rate

00:46:03.771 --> 00:46:11.628
- by a significant margin than full Democratic control of the state. And it only gets worse as we've seen

00:46:11.628 --> 00:46:19.182
- before during COVID in 2021. So state government seems to have some effect. And now we can ask why.

00:46:19.182 --> 00:46:25.150
- So we're gonna go through a number of things that the state government can do.

00:46:26.018 --> 00:46:35.953
- First we're going to look at smoking restrictions and lung cancer deaths. So the map on the left, the

00:46:35.953 --> 00:46:45.012
- gray states are the states with the least restrictions on smoking behavior. The green states

00:46:45.012 --> 00:46:54.558
- have comprehensive smoking ban laws, including in restaurants and bars. The right hand map is the

00:46:54.818 --> 00:47:05.603
- shows the prevalence of lung cancer deaths from 2016 to 2020. And what you see is that among the gray

00:47:05.603 --> 00:47:16.176
- states with weak smoking restrictions, there is a heavier concentration of lung cancer deaths. Then

00:47:16.176 --> 00:47:21.886
- you can ask about gun restrictions. So here it is the

00:47:22.146 --> 00:47:33.792
- map on the right that shows you the stringency of gun laws. The white end is the least stringent gun

00:47:33.792 --> 00:47:45.439
- laws, and states like Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky, Virginia, Virginia has a big tobacco opinion on

00:47:45.439 --> 00:47:51.550
- it, especially here, Montana, and Wyoming, and other

00:47:52.066 --> 00:48:00.641
- left, unfortunately, with the reverse color coding. The states in red have the highest firearm death

00:48:00.641 --> 00:48:09.300
- rates. So in general, there's a correlation between weak gun restrictions in the state laws and heavy

00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:18.384
- firearm deaths. It's not surprising, because if you actually look at it, there's a very strong correlation

00:48:18.384 --> 00:48:21.950
- between the prevalence of guns in a state

00:48:22.082 --> 00:48:31.818
- and the firearm deaths. Next, I'm going to turn it back over to Tim, and we're going to talk about abortion

00:48:31.818 --> 00:48:41.014
- laws and maternal mortality and infant mortality. Thank you, Steve. So in 2022, the Supreme Court and

00:48:41.014 --> 00:48:51.742
- the Dobbs decision left it up to individual states to decide what their abortion laws, abortion restrictions would be.

00:48:51.842 --> 00:49:00.463
- In May of this year, 17 Republican-controlled states currently ban all abortions or those after the

00:49:00.463 --> 00:49:09.084
- first six weeks of pregnancy. So these are the dark, permanent ones. So then there are a few states

00:49:09.084 --> 00:49:17.791
- that have bans after 12 weeks. And then in blue are the states with fewer restrictions on abortions.

00:49:17.791 --> 00:49:20.894
- And the darker the blue, the looser

00:49:25.698 --> 00:49:33.584
- Now, let us look at the correlation between strict abortion laws and the prevalence of maternity care

00:49:33.584 --> 00:49:41.547
- providers in different states. So the level of restriction is shown here. This looks like brown to me,

00:49:41.547 --> 00:49:49.279
- but orange. Not orange, orange, thank you. So the orange is states that have a full abortion ban or

00:49:49.279 --> 00:49:52.990
- a ban after six weeks, and what looks like pink

00:49:55.298 --> 00:50:07.412
- the states that have orange. It's light. You can tell me, hey. It's really embarrassing. And then the

00:50:07.412 --> 00:50:19.407
- color of the state is the number of maternity care providers per 100,000 female population age 15 to

00:50:19.407 --> 00:50:23.326
- 44. So the lightest color states

00:50:23.778 --> 00:50:31.857
- have maternity care providers 105 to 160 per 100,000 population. The darkest-colored states have the

00:50:31.857 --> 00:50:39.936
- least 52 to 69 abortion care providers per 100,000. And you see there's a strong correlation between

00:50:39.936 --> 00:50:48.255
- the severity of the abortion ban and lacking maternal care providers. And that's not really surprising.

00:50:48.255 --> 00:50:53.374
- You would be more restricted in such states, and you could also

00:50:57.666 --> 00:51:26.942
- So here's something which is really, I think, sort of a national disgrace.

00:51:28.578 --> 00:51:37.474
- The maternal mortality rate in the US versus various other countries is the maternal deaths per 100,000

00:51:37.474 --> 00:51:46.369
- live births in select countries for 2018. This is before the Dow's decision. So US 17.4, which is twice

00:51:46.369 --> 00:51:55.094
- the next largest, which is France at 8.7, but it's 10 times the maternal mortality rate in Norway. So

00:51:55.094 --> 00:51:58.430
- we somehow are tolerating embarrassing

00:51:58.818 --> 00:52:07.787
- high maternal mortality rate. And it's getting worse. Now this, unfortunately, there's a lot on this

00:52:07.787 --> 00:52:17.466
- graph, but what we have here are the maternal mortality rates for every state in the nation. From California

00:52:17.466 --> 00:52:26.524
- up to Louisiana, we're missing data from three states, Delaware, New Hampshire, Vermont. There are 47

00:52:26.524 --> 00:52:27.678
- states here.

00:52:28.962 --> 00:52:40.716
- So California is about four deaths per 100,000 births. Louisiana is about 47. And here is the average U.S.

00:52:40.716 --> 00:52:52.251
- maternal mortality rate. It's about 25. That in Iran is shown here in blue. This group of nine developed

00:52:52.251 --> 00:52:58.622
- countries here, this is the maternal mortality rate here.

00:52:58.754 --> 00:53:06.742
- The top is the maternal mortality rate in Mexico and Nicaragua, which is actually lower than the maternal

00:53:06.742 --> 00:53:14.428
- mortality rate in Louisiana. Okay, so once again, now also, you might ask how this is correlated with

00:53:14.428 --> 00:53:22.114
- the poverty level in these states. And the X's here, and this right-hand axis, show the poverty level

00:53:22.114 --> 00:53:28.670
- in these states. And you see there's very little correlation between the poverty level

00:53:37.122 --> 00:53:48.629
- Yes, two things. Indiana, which I'm proud of this, is the third highest maternal mortality rate in the

00:53:48.629 --> 00:53:57.566
- country. And Texas, yes. So from 2019 to 2022, maternal mortality rate in Texas

00:54:07.874 --> 00:54:32.449
- Okay, so this shows infant and perinatal mortality rates for 1,000 births by race, ethnicity, and abortion

00:54:32.449 --> 00:54:37.502
- policy in the states.

00:54:38.754 --> 00:54:48.142
- The states with the strongest abortion restrictions are here in, orange again? Sam. Sam, okay. And the

00:54:48.142 --> 00:54:57.713
- states with fewer abortion restrictions are in need. Okay, this is broken down by, so this is, left-hand

00:54:57.713 --> 00:55:07.010
- one is for all groups, non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic black, non-Hispanic Asian, Hispanic, and this

00:55:07.010 --> 00:55:08.286
- is perinatal.

00:55:08.418 --> 00:55:17.169
- which is the combination of infant mortality and fetal mortality. And you see that in every case, the

00:55:17.169 --> 00:55:25.833
- states with stronger abortion restrictions have higher infant mortality rates. In the year following

00:55:25.833 --> 00:55:34.670
- Texas's 2021 abortion law, infant mortality rates rose by 13%. And in the year following the 2022 DOPS

00:55:34.670 --> 00:55:37.758
- decision, national infant mortality

00:55:46.402 --> 00:55:54.169
- between these increased abortion restrictions that came in after Dow's and the rise of infant mortality.

00:55:54.169 --> 00:56:01.640
- The U.S. currently ranks number 32 among the 38 OECD countries in infant mortality. So don't we like

00:56:01.640 --> 00:56:09.259
- to frighten ourselves on our wonderful medical? Do you know who's worse? Huh? Do you know who's worse?

00:56:09.259 --> 00:56:10.590
- Oh, the citizens.

00:56:15.074 --> 00:56:24.595
- No, I don't know. I don't know if 32 is. So here, this is the rate of clinical abortions in the US as

00:56:24.595 --> 00:56:34.023
- a function of time. Starting with 1973, Roe v. Wade decision. And going up to 2024, although there's

00:56:34.023 --> 00:56:43.451
- a gap here during the COVID years. But you see that starting in 1973, there was a very rapid rise in

00:56:43.451 --> 00:56:44.478
- abortions.

00:56:45.442 --> 00:56:53.603
- in about 1980 at 1.6 billion portions per year, and remaining constant for about 10 years. And then

00:56:53.603 --> 00:57:01.845
- you see a fairly rapid decline for some time. Part of this is due to better access to birth control.

00:57:01.845 --> 00:57:10.006
- A major factor in this decline is that we've seen a very rapid decline in the US in teenage births,

00:57:10.006 --> 00:57:14.494
- women 21 and younger. That has decreased very rapidly.

00:57:17.282 --> 00:57:27.972
- It was out in 2017, but you see between 2020 and 2024, it increases by 10%. This is post-docs. Amazingly

00:57:27.972 --> 00:57:38.154
- enough, these draconian abortion restrictions have managed to increase abortions, increase maternal

00:57:38.154 --> 00:57:42.430
- mortality, and increase infant mortality.

00:57:50.274 --> 00:57:58.569
- There's also the question of the uninsured people in each state. Starting in 2014 with the Ford Care

00:57:58.569 --> 00:58:06.946
- Act, Obama Care, states were able to increase their Medicaid with relatively little contribution from

00:58:06.946 --> 00:58:13.598
- the states, mainly federal. And many states did, but there were also many states

00:58:19.906 --> 00:58:28.494
- And what this graph shows is every state in the union. And the coloring here, the lightest color, this

00:58:28.494 --> 00:58:36.998
- is the percentage of uninsured people in the state who live below the poverty line. So it ranges from

00:58:36.998 --> 00:58:45.503
- 6% to 13% for the lightest, up to 28.5% to 46.9% for the darkest. And once again, you see, with a few

00:58:45.503 --> 00:58:48.254
- exceptions, the deep south here,

00:58:48.482 --> 00:58:57.130
- going up somewhat into the prairie states. This map also shows for each state whether or not they expanded

00:58:57.130 --> 00:59:05.455
- their Medicare and if so when. And you'll see that there are a lot of the states here with the highest

00:59:05.455 --> 00:59:13.861
- rates of uninsured, Kansas, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and Wyoming,

00:59:13.861 --> 00:59:16.286
- which have never raised their

00:59:17.698 --> 00:59:29.613
- expanded their Medicare coverage, and which have the highest rates of uninsured for Medicaid. Is that

00:59:29.613 --> 00:59:41.994
- Medicare? I'm sorry. The exception here is Wisconsin, which has its own Badger Care Plus. Now, red states

00:59:41.994 --> 00:59:47.134
- also have the most rural hospitals at risk.

00:59:49.154 --> 00:59:57.804
- In the past 15 years, 180 rural hospitals have closed or stopped providing an approach to care, and

00:59:57.804 --> 01:00:06.540
- another 432 are currently valued. Stuller for rule of law, okay? And here, so the color coding here,

01:00:06.540 --> 01:00:15.795
- the lightest color is 0% of the rural hospitals in that state at risk of closure, going up to the highest,

01:00:15.795 --> 01:00:17.438
- which is over 41%.

01:00:19.906 --> 01:00:30.319
- And once again, we see this cluster in the south growing up in the prairie regions. And it's likely

01:00:30.319 --> 01:00:40.733
- to get worse because the one big, beautiful bill, Trump's bill, contains a trillion dollars in cuts

01:00:40.733 --> 01:00:47.710
- to Medicaid, most of which will not occur until after the midterm.

01:00:48.930 --> 01:00:58.094
- So we're going to see this dramatic drop in Medicaid covered by Medicaid. And many of these rural hospitals

01:00:58.094 --> 01:01:06.749
- depend on Medicaid income to stay open. So we expect to see many rural hospitals in the United States

01:01:06.749 --> 01:01:10.398
- go out of business if things don't change.

01:01:27.138 --> 01:01:37.777
- So the 92 million Medicaid and CHIP beneficiaries, 26% of these were females ages 15 to 44,

01:01:37.777 --> 01:01:46.334
- as of child-bearing years. And in 2021, 41% of U.S. births were paid for.

01:02:05.602 --> 01:02:16.641
- shows the percentage of birth that were paid for by Medicaid in 2021. The lightest color is here, 21.7% to 34.5%.

01:02:16.641 --> 01:02:26.324
- The darkest, 45.7% to 67%. Once again, you see this cluster of states. So these are the states that

01:02:26.324 --> 01:02:34.942
- disproportionately lose rural hospitals, especially hard hit and about 2 thirds of rural

01:02:35.650 --> 01:02:48.476
- already lack hospital-based obstetrics. The future doesn't work. And Steve will now move into other

01:02:48.476 --> 01:03:02.200
- medical facts and figures and summarize them. Sorry, yes. One question. Did you discriminate as to whether

01:03:02.200 --> 01:03:05.022
- more babies are dying

01:03:05.730 --> 01:03:17.119
- or after they're born, because of, you know, the seizures. So the slide that Tim showed before, the

01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:28.622
- feeble and newborn deaths were the perinatal in the last column. The others were in mortality, so an

01:03:28.622 --> 01:03:33.406
- early childhood mortality. The difference

01:03:33.698 --> 01:03:53.401
- I don't want to bore you with too many more things. So it turns out many Republican states also have

01:03:53.401 --> 01:04:01.790
- fewer primary care physicians who hear the

01:04:02.850 --> 01:04:11.506
- beige and red states, and the fewest primary care for the physicians per capita. Another thing that's

01:04:11.506 --> 01:04:20.586
- really important is that COVID has increased Republican hesitancy about other vaccines. They were hesitant

01:04:20.586 --> 01:04:29.242
- about COVID vaccines, but it changed their view of all vaccines. So this is the result of Pew surveys

01:04:29.242 --> 01:04:30.430
- taken in 2016

01:04:30.722 --> 01:04:39.890
- 2019 was before COVID and 2023 after COVID. And the question asked was, should healthy children be required

01:04:39.890 --> 01:04:48.634
- to be vaccinated to attend public schools because of a potential risk for others? That's not positive.

01:04:48.634 --> 01:04:57.123
- Or alternatively, should parents be able to decide for themselves whether or not their children get

01:04:57.123 --> 01:04:58.142
- vaccinated?

01:04:58.498 --> 01:05:08.781
- Democratic voters and mean Democratic, it's always about 85% who favor mandated vaccination for school

01:05:08.781 --> 01:05:19.165
- children. Before COVID, about 79% of Republican voters favored that, but it dropped to 57% after COVID.

01:05:19.165 --> 01:05:25.854
- So general vaccine hesitancy was introduced or increased by COVID.

01:05:26.626 --> 01:05:35.155
- Turns out red states also have below average rates of the human papillomavirus vaccination. So here

01:05:35.155 --> 01:05:43.769
- the darkest states are the ones with the lowest uptake of HPV vaccination. And vaccine hesitancy has

01:05:43.769 --> 01:05:52.895
- consequences. So these are cervical cancer rates in the various states. The darker colors have the highest

01:05:52.895 --> 01:05:55.198
- cervical cancer prevalence

01:05:55.618 --> 01:06:07.612
- Also, again, largely in the south and up into Appalachia. Yeah? What does the tan Indiana mean? I think

01:06:07.612 --> 01:06:20.414
- that's MoData. That's MoData. It's not MoData. Then a couple of other things. We also looked at suicide rates.

01:06:20.834 --> 01:06:29.514
- So again, darker blue here is the highest suicide rates per county. There is some localization of high

01:06:29.514 --> 01:06:38.025
- suicide rates in the South and Appalachia, but largely in the West. And it turns out it's largely in

01:06:38.025 --> 01:06:46.451
- rural counties in the West, in Alaska. So it's believed that it's feelings of isolation and lack of

01:06:46.451 --> 01:06:49.822
- opportunity, along with access to guns.

01:06:50.050 --> 01:07:02.311
- which is increasing the suicide rates. And finally, if we look at traffic mentality, which to our surprise,

01:07:02.311 --> 01:07:14.005
- show up most prevalent in South and Appalachia. So I'm going to skip this now so we can have some time

01:07:14.005 --> 01:07:19.454
- for questions. Let me go to the question. Yeah.

01:07:20.546 --> 01:07:28.984
- Is a certain type of vaccine, as in the state, able to operate seatbelts? It could be. I mean, we haven't

01:07:28.984 --> 01:07:37.343
- looked into the real causes of this. There's also some correlation with just the number of miles driven,

01:07:37.343 --> 01:07:45.383
- which tends to be larger in those areas. But it may also be seatbelt. It may be drunk driving. There

01:07:45.383 --> 01:07:47.294
- are many possible ways.

01:07:50.658 --> 01:07:59.564
- So the average life expectancy of Americans in Republican counties is significantly less than in Democratic

01:07:59.564 --> 01:08:07.811
- counties, and the gap has been growing steadily throughout this century. The gap is growing fastest

01:08:07.811 --> 01:08:16.304
- among white voters of both sexes, and it's especially localized in the rural South and Appalachia. The

01:08:16.304 --> 01:08:20.510
- symptoms include higher incidences in red counties

01:08:20.610 --> 01:08:28.711
- of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, COPD, other chronic diseases, lung cancer, cervical cancer, firearm

01:08:28.711 --> 01:08:36.427
- deaths, maternal and infant mortality, COVID deaths, suicides, and even traffic deaths. It's a very

01:08:36.427 --> 01:08:44.220
- broad-based problem that we're seeing. The contributing factors include, and addressing the question

01:08:44.220 --> 01:08:50.238
- that was asked in the beginning, we haven't been able to unravel all of these

01:08:50.370 --> 01:08:59.189
- are all contributions. Educational disparities play an important role. So do lifestyle and diet. Access

01:08:59.189 --> 01:09:07.838
- to quality health care services, hospitals, and insurance is a very important contribution. Decreased

01:09:07.838 --> 01:09:09.534
- trust in scientists

01:09:09.890 --> 01:09:17.723
- and doctors and vaccines is an important contribution. State laws concerning Medicaid, smoking and guns.

01:09:17.723 --> 01:09:25.332
- State laws regarding abortion rights and women's healthcare. Susceptibility to medical misinformation

01:09:25.332 --> 01:09:32.941
- also is a contributor. Isolation and lack of opportunity in rural areas. And poverty does contribute,

01:09:32.941 --> 01:09:38.014
- but there are many regions of the country that have as much poverty

01:09:38.338 --> 01:09:46.699
- as these regions in the South and Appalachia, but not these problems with chronic disease.

01:09:46.699 --> 01:09:56.162
- Choosing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services, and the Medicaid cuts in the

01:09:56.162 --> 01:10:05.441
- one big, beautiful bill, the termination of the Subsidies for the Affordable Care Act, are all going

01:10:05.441 --> 01:10:07.646
- to accelerate mortality

01:10:08.674 --> 01:10:17.789
- There's no way around that. So finally, and we had a slide on the problems with RFK, but that's Tim

01:10:17.789 --> 01:10:26.904
- Smith. Many Republican voters interpret freedom today to include a growing distrust of experts. And

01:10:26.904 --> 01:10:36.201
- that has a substantial cost in death rate. That's why we called our talk Live Free and Die. Our other

01:10:36.201 --> 01:10:38.206
- alternative title was

01:10:38.594 --> 01:10:48.133
- liberty and give me death. In order to shrink the mortality gap, what we need are policies that enhance

01:10:48.133 --> 01:10:56.938
- rural health care and support rural hospitals, that improve health education and combat medical

01:10:56.938 --> 01:11:06.110
- misinformation, which is rampant right now and in many cases promulgated by our present government,

01:11:06.978 --> 01:11:14.351
- promote medicine and science as inherently non-partisan approaches to truth about human interactions

01:11:14.351 --> 01:11:21.943
- with nature and with disease, and educate voters that election preferences impact their health. I don't

01:11:21.943 --> 01:11:29.243
- think this has been widely understood by voters in this country. They tend generally to assume that

01:11:29.243 --> 01:11:34.718
- the elections will affect their economic output, their economic condition.

01:11:35.074 --> 01:11:42.396
- not their health condition, and it really does. Unfortunately, those changes are largely opposed to

01:11:42.396 --> 01:11:49.791
- the directions of the current Republican state and federal policies, including the One Big Beautiful

01:11:49.791 --> 01:11:57.113
- Bill Act. And that is a problem that we face right now. So the health care system in the US, as Rob

01:11:57.113 --> 01:12:01.726
- Stone told you a few weeks ago, is kind of the best right now.

01:12:02.210 --> 01:12:09.489
- The problem we have right now is we're in a hole and we're still digging. You know, we first have to

01:12:09.489 --> 01:12:16.985
- stop digging and then try to start climbing out. Whether that's through a Medicare for All or some more

01:12:16.985 --> 01:12:22.174
- incremental policy change, one can debate, but we have to stop digging.

01:12:36.482 --> 01:12:45.167
- Most people in this room are aware that the university is under pressure from the state with the threat

01:12:45.167 --> 01:12:53.517
- of dire consequences to the university to prove that education is worth it. On your third or fourth

01:12:53.517 --> 01:13:02.035
- slide, the fact that the outcomes of your entire life are helped by your education might be something

01:13:02.035 --> 01:13:04.958
- you would have said to Pam Witten.

01:13:05.858 --> 01:13:13.100
- A good point to note, that slide, by the way, did not have graduate degrees, which only increased the

01:13:13.100 --> 01:13:20.556
- life expectancy further. So graduate school also had value. I was struck by your very first slide, which

01:13:20.556 --> 01:13:27.869
- compared Connecticut and Oklahoma. Today, many of you probably saw in the New York Times a story about

01:13:27.869 --> 01:13:34.046
- people in Oklahoma who could afford their utility bills. Yeah. Threatfully hot summer.

01:13:35.010 --> 01:13:42.760
- Data centers being built everywhere. And it happened that the family they focused on, the wife had,

01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:50.974
- was on oxygen. The husband had to sleep with a CPAP machine. And if they couldn't pay for their utilities

01:13:50.974 --> 01:13:58.879
- during this, they would die. And it's especially noted that Oklahoma, every county in Oklahoma in the

01:13:58.879 --> 01:14:02.366
- last three elections, might have overwhelmed

01:14:07.618 --> 01:14:15.533
- from that first slide, I mean, Oklahoma and Connecticut are not alkaline. They were just basically

01:14:15.533 --> 01:14:23.687
- representative red states and blue states. Yeah, Mike. I'm still worried there's something missing in

01:14:23.687 --> 01:14:31.681
- the granularity of the data looking at counties or states. So, I mean, one example, for example, is

01:14:31.681 --> 01:14:36.638
- chronic diseases in urban areas, particularly affecting black

01:14:37.698 --> 01:14:47.439
- white populations, I think those levels of those chronic diseases and the life expectancy statistics

01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:57.373
- are not good for those either zip codes or census spec. Yeah, so we, you know, the most granular study

01:14:57.373 --> 01:15:04.510
- we found of this study by Benavides, which looked wholly at the zip code,

01:15:05.186 --> 01:15:13.747
- They didn't break down the incident codes by ethnicity or race. But that's something one could look

01:15:13.747 --> 01:15:22.394
- at further. I mean, there's a lot of data. It just has to be handled. The slides and graphs wouldn't

01:15:22.394 --> 01:15:30.270
- be available on any of the websites or anything? They are already available on our website.

01:15:30.402 --> 01:15:39.823
- So if you go to debunkingdenial.com, there's a page called Our Presentations. And this presentation

01:15:39.823 --> 01:15:50.092
- is there. You can look at the slides, or you can download them. They're free to use. Yeah? So in correlation

01:15:50.092 --> 01:15:59.230
- with the conclusions that you brought that, and global climate change, most of the vast majority

01:16:03.522 --> 01:16:16.410
- Most of the WhatsApp has bad stuff. Climate change is going to make all of this worse for a number of

01:16:16.410 --> 01:16:29.298
- reasons. One of which is that as the globe warms, lots of species are shifting their range, and among

01:16:29.298 --> 01:16:30.814
- the species

01:16:31.298 --> 01:16:41.648
- shifting their ranges are disease-bearing mosquitoes, disease-bearing ticks. They are moving northward.

01:16:41.648 --> 01:16:51.699
- So things that one used to think of as southern hemisphere diseases, Zika, dengue fever, things like

01:16:51.699 --> 01:16:58.366
- that, West Nile virus, are moving north. So that's going to affect

01:17:00.770 --> 01:17:10.564
- But there are all sorts of, we have lots of posts on our site about climate change effects,

01:17:10.564 --> 01:17:21.316
- about biodiversity loss. All of these things are intertwined. And basically, the bottom line message

01:17:21.316 --> 01:17:29.406
- is that humans have become a dominant species on the planet, and ecosystems

01:17:30.882 --> 01:17:39.230
- when there is one dominant species. They tend to exhaust the resources and mess up things. You know,

01:17:39.230 --> 01:17:47.578
- that's what we're doing in climate change, biodiversity, in health. It's a very broad-faced problem.

01:17:47.578 --> 01:17:56.175
- I was just noting that you pointed out that Colorado was kind of an exception. Colorado is an altitude.

01:17:56.175 --> 01:18:00.638
- So how does that affect you? Colorado is an altitude.

01:18:00.962 --> 01:18:14.941
- It also has attracted a lot of educated people with high paying jobs. So whether it's the climate in

01:18:14.941 --> 01:18:25.598
- Colorado that makes it better or just the high density of college graduates.

01:18:47.650 --> 01:18:58.763
- There's not a complete understanding. Let me answer the second question first. The second question,

01:18:58.763 --> 01:19:10.210
- it is believed that family structure in Hispanic communities is a large contribution to this so-called

01:19:10.210 --> 01:19:14.878
- Hispanic paradox, but it's not understood

01:19:17.634 --> 01:19:25.306
- It did, as Tim mentioned earlier, it largely disappeared during COVID because Hispanics were hit by

01:19:25.306 --> 01:19:33.592
- COVID much more than whites, Hispanic communities. So there was still a small gap between white communities

01:19:33.592 --> 01:19:39.806
- and Hispanic, but much smaller than pre-COVID. In terms of the effect in Mexico,

01:19:55.938 --> 01:20:05.438
- ever looking to the physics department? Or is there an interesting story on how you got into it? Basically,

01:20:05.438 --> 01:20:14.674
- we talk about the interesting problems that come up. We assign ourselves reading assignments. And that's

01:20:14.674 --> 01:20:23.471
- how we attack these problems. We learn about things we don't know about. That's certainly something

01:20:23.471 --> 01:20:25.406
- we didn't know about.

01:20:25.826 --> 01:20:36.204
- So I'll tell you how we got to this. We wrote a different book addressing the question of whether partisan

01:20:36.204 --> 01:20:46.000
- differences that exist in the country now, which are fairly extreme, are from a demographic point of

01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:50.462
- view likely to get better or worse in states.

01:20:54.210 --> 01:21:02.488
- And it turns out things that matter there are birth rates versus blue counties, death rates, and also

01:21:02.488 --> 01:21:10.684
- childbirth, whether the children tend to have the same partisan preferences as their parents. And it

01:21:10.684 --> 01:21:18.962
- was when we were working on that that I saw this large mortality gap break. There's also a birth rate

01:21:18.962 --> 01:21:22.046
- which goes in the opposite direction.

01:21:23.010 --> 01:21:33.781
- thinking that this is going to get rigged, Republicans won't. That's how we got here. There are all

01:21:33.781 --> 01:21:44.982
- sorts of things that trigger our interest. My son was an economist, and he told me at one point he came

01:21:44.982 --> 01:21:52.414
- to a conference on the economic impacts of the declining birth rates

01:21:53.986 --> 01:22:21.694
- I see on your website you quoted Carl Sagan and mentioning some aspects of

01:22:22.338 --> 01:22:34.176
- the belief in pseudoscience, superstition. Did you have a breakout of the statistics of those who believe

01:22:34.176 --> 01:22:45.345
- in such things, including their religiosity? So, I'm now scrolling mentally through our posts. I've

01:22:45.345 --> 01:22:51.934
- been thinking about posts, you know, we have posts on the,

01:22:53.026 --> 01:23:04.777
- growing partisan gap in trust in science, which does have some data on trust in science as a function

01:23:04.777 --> 01:23:16.298
- of religiosity. So for example, Christian nationalists have very low trust in science. So there are

01:23:16.298 --> 01:23:22.174
- data on our site in that. I don't have any slides.

01:23:24.610 --> 01:23:32.202
- probably one or two other folks that also have relevant data for that. Can I just say a word about that?

01:23:32.202 --> 01:23:39.432
- There's a famous Pew research study about religious denominations and, well, it's not so much about

01:23:39.432 --> 01:23:47.097
- new medicine, but belief in evolution and interest in environmental, support for environmental movements.

01:23:47.097 --> 01:23:54.110
- And as you might imagine, there's an enormous spectrum. There's a correlation between those two.

01:23:54.242 --> 01:24:00.734
- but an enormous spectrum, depending on what particular religious group you might belong to. And in many

01:24:00.734 --> 01:24:07.038
- cases, religious communities have been very strong supporters of scientific and medical advances and

01:24:07.038 --> 01:24:13.592
- other cases. The other direction is quite interesting and complicated. I want to take a moment and thank

01:24:13.592 --> 01:24:17.150
- Steve and Tim again. They're going to be hanging around.
