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- Welcome everyone. I would like to call this Tonight's meeting of the Monroe County Council to order

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- today is Tuesday October 6 and I want to record that we have council members Peter Iverson Trent Deckard

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- Liz vital Marty Hawk and Kate wilt in the room councilmember David Henry had to step out, but he'll

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- be right back and now I would ask that I

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- As you are able, please rise with us to say the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag

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- of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible,

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- with liberty and justice for all. Thank you for that.

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- The next item on our agenda is the adoption of the agenda. You can find tonight's agenda on the county's

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- website and you'll see it on the calendar there. And so council, does anyone wish to amend tonight's

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- agenda? I move to add item 9B, Highway Department 2027 budget amendment. Second. We have a motion and

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- a second. Any other discussions about this? All those in favor of the amendment, please say aye. Aye.

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- All those opposed?

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- the eyes have it unanimously. Does anyone else wish to amend tonight's agenda? Is there a place on the

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- agenda where it would be appropriate to put a motion on the floor to no longer be saying we have a hiring

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- freeze and so the people aren't having to come back and spend hours trying to do that? Because clearly

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- we don't have a hiring freeze. It would just save a lot of department head time and our time. So I don't know what

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- where that could be added, but I certainly think it's important that we do that. I will note that for

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- the record, we are going to have a robust conversation about the hiring freeze and KSA and all those

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- those things related things at our meeting on the 13th, which is next week at five p.m. So we'll have

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- plenty of opportunity to be here that night before budget adoption.

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- Are there any other changes to tonight's agenda? Hearing none, all those in favor of the amended agenda,

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- please say aye. Aye. All those opposed? The ayes have it unanimously. Welcome, everyone. This is the

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- public hearing portion of the Monroe County 2027 budget. And before we begin, I want to set some ground

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- rules for these public hearings.

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- We will open a budget and anyone who wishes to make comment will be given the opportunity at that time

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- to make comment on that budget. Those present here in the NatU Hill meeting room will be asked to come

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- to the podium. Those attending virtually are asked to raise their hand feature on your computer and

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- we'll call on you in order. Participants will be given a time of three minutes to make a comment on

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- any budget. You'll be given a 30 second remaining reminder as follows.

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- and we ask that you please limit your comments to the budget that is open on the floor. Following the

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- public comments, Council will have an opportunity to make comment on the budget. And once Council is

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- finished with their comments, the public hearing for each of those budgets will then be closed. So we're

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- going to start with our first reading and public hearing of ordinance 2026-29, the Monroe Fire Protection

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- District 2027 budget. I open.

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- the 2027 Monroe Fire Protection District. And I would ask Councilor Deckard to read ordinance 2026-29

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- into the record. Be it or pardon me here. Councilors, do you all have yours? Because I have multiple.

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- OK. All right. Be ordained resolved by the Monroe County Council that for the expenses of Monroe County Fire

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- Protection District Monroe County for the year ending December 31st, 2027. The sums herein specified

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- are hereby appropriated and ordered set apart out of the several funds herein named and for the purposes

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- herein specified subject to the laws governing the same. Such sums herein appropriated shall be held

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- to include all expenditures authorized to be made during the year unless otherwise expressly stipulated

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- and provided for by law.

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- In addition, for the purposes of raising revenue to meet the necessary expenses of Monroe Fire Protection

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- District, Monroe County, the property tax levies and property tax rate as here and specified are included

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- here in budget form for be for all funds must be completed and submitted in the manner prescribed by

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- the Department of

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- local government finance. This ordinance resolution shall be in full force in effect from and after

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- its passage in approval by Monroe County. And then I go down to council or Mr. President. I just read

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- these main levy type lines if you would please. All right. So jumping to the funds, property tax, max

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- levy type, fund code,

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- zero zero six one rainy day is zero dollars in adopted budget zero for adopted tax levy adopted tax

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- rate is zero point zero dollars under the property tax max levy type civil line fund code eight six

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- zero three special fire fire general the adopted budget is nineteen million four hundred fifty seven

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- thousand fifty four dollars the adopted tax levy

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- is thirteen million, two hundred and fifty seven thousand five hundred twenty six dollars for an adopted

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- tax rate of point three, two, three, seven. Under the outside maximum levy fund, we have fund code eight,

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- six, nine, one special cum fire adopted budget is one million five hundred

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- Pardon me, $1,511,563. The adopted tax levy is $1,406,110 for an adopted tax rate of 0.033 for an adopted budget of

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- $20,968,617 with an adopted tax levy of $14,663,636 pardon me, $14,663,636 for an adopted total tax

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- rate of 0.3570.

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- And I can read the home rule funds as well. Fund code nine five zero zero donation fund adopted budget

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- one hundred and twenty four thousand five hundred sixty five dollars. And then in their fund code nine

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- five zero one restricted donation fund, it's an adopted budget of

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- $1,546 for a total there under home rule and $126,111. Well, thank you, Mr. Deckard. Do we have anyone

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- from the public that wishes to speak on the Monroe Fire Protection District's 2027 budget? If so, please

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- come to the podium or raise your hand on teams.

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- Are there any council members that wish to comment on the 2027 Monroe Fire Protection District budget?

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- Wilts Sure, I mean I think just For transparency sake pointing out that the Budget exceeds the levy

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- on a few of these things is something I believe we discussed

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- at the budget presentations. And we have been assured that there are funds available to make up the

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- difference there. If that is an exaggeration or incorrect, or if you have anything to add, that's absolutely

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- fine. Please come up. I just wanted to make sure that it didn't go without saying, I guess, at the hearing

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- that we see that.

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- this on? Yes. Laurie Robinson, Monroe Fire Protection District. Yes, we did discuss that during our

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- budget hearings, and that's due to the merge with Bean Blossom Township. So we presented we're presenting

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- all our information to the state this month to increase our max levy. Our max levy will actually be

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- a little bit higher than what we're asking for for the levy to the tune of about five hundred thousand

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- higher than that.

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- Thank you. Yes, please. OK, it's Lori. You didn't think you could get off that easy, did you? I thought

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- I got away. OK, so you're saying you want us to vote on a levy that's really less than what you're hoping

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- to get, or did you put the max in there that you think you're going to get? So our new max levy will

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- be $12,757.

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- and change, but the we're only taxing for 2027 on 12,257 and change. And then the next thing I want

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- to ask is your present tax rate and what your projected tax rate is going to be now that you've added

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- being brought some in there and the expenses. So I see an adopted tax rate of point three, five point

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- talk to me about your tax rates. So our tax rates based on a net assessed value of about 97% of what

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- the auditor's numbers actually were presented. Just to make sure that there are no errors, no mistakes,

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- nothing withheld. When the net assessed value goes to the full amount, then our tax rate should fluctuate

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- down just a little bit more than what you're seeing there tonight. But that's the maximum that it would

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- be at 97%.

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- And how much is it now? Our tax rate right now. Yeah, right. I'm just trying to see what the difference

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- is between 25 right at point 25 to 2469, something like that for our general fund. So it is going to

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- trend upwards a few points. Taking on Bean Blossom, adding an extra million dollars to our budget for

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- next year.

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- I just want to get all the numbers out there because there's a lot of people on social media that's.

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- Making things sometimes seem worse than it is, and sometimes better than what it is, and it's better

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- to just get the exact facts and let people know. Absolutely. Marley's willing to talk to anyone, have

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- some questions. Chief Dillard. Yeah, I was just going to add that that 25 cent rate that we have now,

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- we held that in 2026.

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- We should have modified that to fit Senate Enrollment Act 1. We held the 25 cents because that's what

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- we'd talked about in previous hearings, but this time we looked at what the cost would be per household

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- and we adjusted that rate to kind of keep the revenues where we needed them to be. Any other comments

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- from council? I will just note that the 4B, it looks very healthy.

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- So really happy to see the the revenues over expenditures are solidly in the black so All right, if

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- there are no further comments So just looking at the adopted text rate column I think I would like to

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- see percentages there instead of dollars for those point whatever numbers they are and

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- They're just labeled incorrectly. I think they have dollar signs, but they are written to be percentages,

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- right? The rate would be a percentage instead of a dollar amount, right? This is a form that's generated

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- by the state. We don't have any control over the formatting that's used, but they are percentages. Am

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- I correct? Is that column? It says adopted tax rate. So that would be a percentage. Is that correct

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- or not? So that would be the amount per dollar.

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- Which would also be a percent, right? Yes. Okay. Okay. So yeah. So what this indicates, it would be

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- 0.3. The first one would be 0.3237 per dollar. Is that right? Correct. Is that right? Okay. But it seems-

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- It's not 32 cents. Yeah, it wouldn't be 32 cents. That's why it needs the same percentage. You would

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- have two zeros before to get to the percent. And that's the difference. If they put a dollar sign- Yes.

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- And then left, then adjust it. So it's just confusing. That's per $100 of assessed value.

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- Yeah. 0.3237 cents per $100 of assessed value. Yeah, not a dollar, just $100. Now we got the decimals

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- in the right places. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Councilmember Deckard. Well, to kind of follow up, that's

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- why I read the point on that. But I, you know, I sometimes look at how these things all like structure

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- out. And I wonder how the public can even begin to follow the way the state has us explain that.

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- When sometimes I wonder if it just say there's a bucket of money and it's about this amount and they

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- can take about that much. But that's great. Reminds me. I did catch something that maybe a Scribner's

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- era error or it may not at the top of the form. And when I was reading, I caught it. Be it ordained

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- resolved by the Monroe County. I think that's supposed to be council and I said council when I read

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- it, but I don't know if that's just how they the state has set the form up, but I wonder

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- point that out. I haven't looked at the top of the other ones. We can research whether that is an editable

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- portion or not. Funny name. Council members, keep your eye out because that is going to be on all the

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- rest of the forms. Thank you. All right. If there are no further comments from council, I'm looking

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- on teams. I'm looking in the NatU Hill room. The public hearing for the twenty twenty seven Monroe Fire

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- Protection District budget is closed.

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- All right. You take those kids home. All right. Next is the first reading public hearing of ordinance

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- twenty twenty six thirty Monroe County Public Library twenty twenty seven budget. I open that twenty

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- twenty twenty twenty

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- Hold on, that 2027 budget for the Monroe County Public Library, and I would ask Councilor Feidl to read

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- ordinance 2026-30 into the record. Be it ordained resolved by the Monroe County that for the expenses

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- Monroe County Public Library, Monroe County for the year ending December 31st, 2027, the sums herein

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- specified are hereby appropriated and ordered set apart

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- out of the several funds here in named and for the purposes here in specified subject to the laws governing

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- the same such sums here in appropriated shall be held to include all expenditures authorized to be made

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- during the year unless otherwise expressly stipulated and provided for by law in addition

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- for the purposes of raising revenue to meet the necessary expenses of Monroe County Public Library.

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- Monroe County, the property tax levies and property tax rates are herein specified, are included herein.

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- Budget form 4B for all funds must be completed and submitted in the manner prescribed by the Department

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- of Local Government Finance. This ordinance resolution shall be in full force and effect

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- from and after its passage and approval by the Monroe County. Should I say council or not? Yeah, well,

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- whatever, it just says Monroe County. I'll say council. All right, so down on the funds section and

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- fund rainy day fund code 0061. The adopted budget amount is $730,000. Adopted tax levy amount is zero.

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- Adopted tax rate is zero.

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- In the civil fund code 0 1 0 1 general fund name 13 million two hundred forty eight thousand four hundred

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- ninety seven dollars adopted tax levy eight million seven hundred and eighty one thousand three hundred

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- and forty six dollars with an adopted tax rate of zero point zero seven nine three. And the type debt

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- The fund name is Debt Service, fund code 0180, adopted budget $640,713, adopted tax levy $639,713, and

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- adopted tax rate of 0.0058. Then with adopted budget total of $14,619,210,

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- Adopted tax levy of nine million four hundred and twenty one thousand zero fifty nine dollars and adopted

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- tax rate of zero point zero eight five one. Thank you very much, council member Fiddle. Do we have anyone

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- from the public that wishes to speak on the library's fund? If so, please step forward to the podium

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- here in the Natu Hill Room or if you're on teams, please raise your hand.

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- Hearing none. Are there any council comments? Yes. Right. I would like to have someone from the library

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- come up and explain to the public how their budgets are different. Really? They tell us how their budgets

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- work because it is different from the way County Council looks at the county budgets. Come on forward

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- to the podium. Thank you for being here.

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- We're going to give our money for tonight. I'm Gary Littler, finance director. And I didn't could could

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- you go over that question again? I didn't quite understand. Well, because the rules about library funding

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- is different than county government, because it depends on.

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- what your budgets are and so forth. It's really different from the way we do county budgets. Unless

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- something happened in the last few months has changed all that. If you go over a certain amount, then

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- you have to come to the county council. Right. So I mean, I just wanted you to explain

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- Okay, so the growth quotient for 2027 is 6% and half of that, 3%, is that limit you were talking about.

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- So if the library chose to accept a growth quotient of less than half what other units get, then the

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- library board

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- can approve the budget. But we need the full 6%. And so that's why we are coming to the council to get

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- the budget approved. And your board is appointed, not elected, correct? Correct. And so do you have

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- something in front of you that says,

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- how much of a tax this is going to be on the local taxpayers more than what it is presently? Like, what

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- is the amount of tax that they're paying now versus what will they be paying since you want the entire

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- 6%? Well, the tax, what they're paying is the tax rate. The tax rate is

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- 0.0851 cents per hundred dollars of assessed value. We can compare that to last year's tax rate, which

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- I don't have in front of me, but it's very close. I think this rate is slightly more than last year's

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- rate. And just for the public at large, everybody pays

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- If you live any place in Monroe County, whether it's in the city or out of the city, everybody pays

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- the same rate for the library. So it isn't like cheaper if you live one place and the other. It is a

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- rate that is used, that is arrived at. So and I ask at the time that you were presenting information

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- that because

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- You have relied so heavily on a rather large portion of the income tax, which could very well mean that

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- you would not be receiving that in a couple of years. And you have said that you think you've worked

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- your way around that. Is that correct? We know what our projection for local income tax is for 2027.

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- When I know more about the impact of the changes to our portion of the local income tax, and I can compute

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- what that means dollar-wise, then I would have a better understanding of the impact. But I just don't

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- know. I have no idea where we're going to end up.

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- Right. And I just know about next year. I think there's a lot of people that's just trying to work their

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- way through this. But I think it's really important when we're looking at that point to and now that

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- if things should stay as it's written by legislation now, then that point to income tax would have to

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- be shared with the townships and with the

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- with the transportation, Bloomington transportation. And so there's and solid waste if they should decide

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- they want something. So there's a lot of people needing that point too. And I'm just weighing in on

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- this because I don't want anybody to come up short and think they were not advised that this could happen.

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- Appreciate that. And so. Mr. Decker.

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- Since we've kind of broached this topic and feel free to answer or just say I need to get back to you

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- later on this and You can even forget I asked if you want now. I might have Greer answer This might

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- be pretty straightforward does any you all I know we have the one of the best libraries that you could

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- have You talk to your association and your peers and the leaders of that and then yeah I'm sure you've

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- got people up in India and elsewhere that are

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- watching things and making sure that we can still read books tomorrow and all that. But do they know

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- what's going to happen? Or are they in the same boat as the rest of us? Not really sure what is going

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- to happen in the future. I will agree.

00:25:44.322 --> 00:25:49.670
- Thank you. Hi, everyone. That's a very good question. My understanding in talking with peer library

00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:55.178
- administrators and staff and board members across the state is that everybody is very much in the same

00:25:55.178 --> 00:26:00.900
- boat, not really sure how libraries are going to be funded going forward. And so the change in legislation

00:26:00.900 --> 00:26:06.301
- that's impacting us this year and that has us coming to you all is something that has kind of rocked

00:26:06.301 --> 00:26:10.526
- the public library sphere in Indiana considerably. But we feel that we're in a

00:26:10.626 --> 00:26:16.498
- Pretty fortunate position here in Monroe County, enjoy a whole lot of support. We're not worried as

00:26:16.498 --> 00:26:22.547
- much as some of our peers are, but that's the sense that I get from talking with colleagues within the

00:26:22.547 --> 00:26:28.596
- field. Yeah. Let me ask you one more. And again, you don't have to answer this. Are you hearing of any

00:26:28.596 --> 00:26:33.470
- communities making decisions about whether or not libraries will stay open or not?

00:26:33.730 --> 00:26:40.263
- There's a lot of anxiety about that, but I haven't heard of any decisions to actually close public libraries.

00:26:40.263 --> 00:26:46.380
- We do have public libraries in the state that are effectively run by one or two professionals and then

00:26:46.380 --> 00:26:52.319
- a bunch of volunteers. And they were quite concerned about this change in legislation, but I've not

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:58.317
- heard of any libraries actually closing it. I always like to ask because I think we need to remember

00:26:58.317 --> 00:27:00.574
- the values 100 plus years and longer.

00:27:00.738 --> 00:27:07.502
- on how we got here and make the public, we're all watching this, so thank you. Yeah, absolutely. Council

00:27:07.502 --> 00:27:14.073
- members, any other comments or questions? Let me just conclude, I'm gonna point again to the four Bs,

00:27:14.073 --> 00:27:20.644
- which is the revenue over expenses. The rainy day looks very healthy. The general fund looks healthy.

00:27:20.644 --> 00:27:27.280
- It seems like we're in a good spot given the numbers that we know. So we'll continue to rent books and

00:27:27.280 --> 00:27:29.470
- use hoopla and all the fun stuff.

00:27:29.954 --> 00:27:38.034
- Thanks. Thank you. All right. If there are no further comments, I'm just looking to teams real quick.

00:27:38.034 --> 00:27:46.590
- The public hearing for the twenty twenty seven in Monroe County Public Library budget is closed. Thank you.

00:27:48.066 --> 00:27:57.395
- Next we have the first reading and public hearing of ordinance 2026-31 Waste Reduction District for

00:27:57.395 --> 00:28:07.004
- their 2027 budget I open that 2027 Waste Reduction District budget and I would ask councilmember Wilts

00:28:07.004 --> 00:28:14.654
- to read ordinance 2026-31 into the record Ordinance number 2026-31 be it ordained

00:28:15.010 --> 00:28:22.101
- by the Monroe County Council that for the expenses of the waste reduction district of Monroe County

00:28:22.101 --> 00:28:29.475
- for the year ending December 31st, 2027, the sums here in specified or here by appropriated and ordered

00:28:29.475 --> 00:28:36.566
- set apart out of the several funds here in named and for the purposes here and specified subject to

00:28:36.566 --> 00:28:38.622
- the laws governing the same.

00:28:39.810 --> 00:28:46.134
- Such sums herein appropriated shall be held to include all expenditures authorized to be made during

00:28:46.134 --> 00:28:52.520
- the year unless otherwise expressly stipulated and provided for by law. In addition, for the purposes

00:28:52.520 --> 00:28:58.782
- of raising revenue to meet the necessary expenses of the waste reduction district of Monroe County,

00:28:58.782 --> 00:29:04.542
- the property tax levies and the property tax rates as herein specified are included herein.

00:29:05.346 --> 00:29:12.938
- Budget form 4B for all funds must be completed and submitted in the manner prescribed by the Department

00:29:12.938 --> 00:29:20.529
- of Local Government Finance. This ordinance shall be in full force in effect from and after its passage

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:27.902
- and approval by the Monroe County Council. So for a reading of the specific funds, we have fund 1215

00:29:27.902 --> 00:29:30.238
- non-reverting capital projects.

00:29:30.338 --> 00:29:42.074
- The adopted budget is zero, adopted levy zero, and adopted tax rate is zero. For fund 8210, special

00:29:42.074 --> 00:29:54.397
- solid waste management, the adopted budget is $3,309,451, excuse me. The adopted tax levy is $2,497,199,

00:29:54.397 --> 00:29:58.622
- and the adopted tax rate is 0.0265.

00:30:00.898 --> 00:30:09.177
- We're fund 8283 solid waste district debt service. The adopted budget is one hundred thirty seven thousand

00:30:09.177 --> 00:30:17.301
- two hundred thirty five dollars. Adopted tax levy is forty six thousand eighteen dollars and the adopted

00:30:17.301 --> 00:30:20.318
- tax rate is point zero zero zero five.

00:30:21.090 --> 00:30:36.141
- The total adopted budget therefore is $3,446,686 with an adopted tax levy of $2,543,217 and an adopted

00:30:36.141 --> 00:30:45.054
- tax rate of 0.0270. Thank you Council Member Wilts for that.

00:30:45.186 --> 00:30:53.799
- Now is the time where I invite anyone from the public to speak on the Waste Reduction District's 2027

00:30:53.799 --> 00:31:02.497
- budget. If you're in the NatU Hill Room, please come to the podium. And if you're online, please raise

00:31:02.497 --> 00:31:10.941
- your hand on Teams. All right, hearing none, let's go to council. Are there any council comments on

00:31:10.941 --> 00:31:14.910
- this budget? Stumped them. No comments herein.

00:31:15.746 --> 00:31:27.313
- Okay. Yes, as you might remember, I did not vote in favor of this budget when it was presented originally

00:31:27.313 --> 00:31:38.225
- because. While we have kept the perhaps the race for county employees at one rate, we are approving

00:31:38.225 --> 00:31:44.990
- a larger amount for other employees that we can vote on their

00:31:45.538 --> 00:31:56.394
- raises. And so I just felt that was unfair to our own county employees. But I do know that this is not

00:31:56.394 --> 00:32:07.144
- just the people appointed to that board is not just the county people. So I have to recognize that as

00:32:07.144 --> 00:32:12.414
- well. Thank you. Any other comments or questions?

00:32:13.378 --> 00:32:21.287
- I will just note that the 4B for the special solid waste management fund is remarkably solid. It's very

00:32:21.287 --> 00:32:29.120
- consistent the way it goes from cash balance to cash balance. So that's really nice to see. All right,

00:32:29.120 --> 00:32:36.953
- seeing no other comments or questions, the public hearing for the 2027 Waste Reduction District budget

00:32:36.953 --> 00:32:37.790
- is closed.

00:32:38.722 --> 00:32:46.732
- Next, we will go on to the first reading and public hearing of ordinance 2026-32, the Monroe County

00:32:46.732 --> 00:32:54.982
- Government 2027 budget. I open that 2027 Monroe County Government budget and I would ask for Councilor

00:32:54.982 --> 00:33:00.990
- Henry to read ordinance 2026-32 into the record. Thank you, Mr. President.

00:33:01.442 --> 00:33:06.707
- Be it ordained by the Menor County Council that for the expenses of Menor County for the year ending

00:33:06.707 --> 00:33:12.025
- December 31, 2027, the sums herein specified are hereby appropriated and ordered set apart out of the

00:33:12.025 --> 00:33:17.342
- several funds here named and for the purpose herein specified subject to the laws governing the same.

00:33:17.538 --> 00:33:22.641
- Such sums herein appropriated shall be held to include all expenditures authorized to be made during

00:33:22.641 --> 00:33:27.795
- the year unless otherwise expressly stipulated and provided for by law. In addition, for the purposes

00:33:27.795 --> 00:33:33.101
- of raising revenue to meet the necessary expenses of Monroe County, the property tax levies and property

00:33:33.101 --> 00:33:35.678
- tax rates as herein specified are included herein.

00:33:35.842 --> 00:33:42.616
- budget form for B and all funds must be completed and submitted in the manner prescribed by the Department

00:33:42.616 --> 00:33:49.201
- of Local Government Finance. This ordinance shall be in full force in effect from and after its passage

00:33:49.201 --> 00:33:55.912
- and approval by the Monroe County Council on to the funds. I drew this short stick again. I'm I'm willing

00:33:55.912 --> 00:34:02.750
- to read half of them if your voice falters. Yeah, I brought water. There we go in fund code 0061 rainy day.

00:34:03.074 --> 00:34:15.276
- adopted budget $3 million, adopted tax levy $0 for adopted tax rate of 0.0. And fund code 0101 General

00:34:15.276 --> 00:34:27.359
- adopted budget $49,085,325, adopted tax levy $35 million, adopted tax rate 0.3713. And fund code 0102

00:34:27.359 --> 00:34:31.742
- Election Registration adopted budget

00:34:32.642 --> 00:34:47.146
- $2,000,750,900 adopted tax levy $2,000,199,000 adopted tax rate .0233. In fund code 0124 2015 reassessment,

00:34:47.146 --> 00:35:01.918
- the adopted budget is $916,640. The adopted tax levy is $923,000. The adopted tax rate is .0098. In fund code

00:35:02.850 --> 00:35:09.948
- zero one eight zero debt service. The adopted budget is nine million four hundred fifty four thousand

00:35:09.948 --> 00:35:17.047
- four hundred dollars. The adopted tax levy is eighteen million seven hundred fifty eight thousand and

00:35:17.047 --> 00:35:24.354
- sixty seven dollars. The adopted tax rate is point one nine nine zero. In funds code zero two zero three

00:35:24.354 --> 00:35:31.870
- self insurance. The adopted budget is twelve million five hundred nine thousand nine hundred sixty dollars.

00:35:32.034 --> 00:35:42.754
- The adopted tax levy is $0.00. The adopted tax rate is 0.00. In fund code 0254 local income tax, the

00:35:42.754 --> 00:35:54.430
- adopted budget is $4,530,089. The adopted tax levy is $0.00. The adopted tax rate is 0.00. In 0256 fund code,

00:35:54.978 --> 00:36:06.618
- The adopted budget is $4,176,508. The adopted tax levy is $0.00. The adopted tax rate is 0.00. In fund

00:36:06.618 --> 00:36:17.919
- code 0616 Convention and Visitors Bureau, the adopted budget is $6,187,742. The adopted tax levy is

00:36:17.919 --> 00:36:24.926
- $0.00. The adopted tax rate is 0.00. In fund code one, sorry,

00:36:25.154 --> 00:36:37.869
- The adopted budget is $6,626,647. The adopted tax levy is $0.00. The adopted tax rate is 0.00. In fund

00:36:37.869 --> 00:36:50.214
- code 0706, local road and streets, the adopted budget is $1,720,007. The adopted tax levy is $0.00.

00:36:50.214 --> 00:36:53.918
- The adopted tax rate is 0.00.

00:37:06.306 --> 00:37:22.341
- In Fund 0790 Cumulative Bridge, the adopted budget is $1,819,376. The adopted tax levy is $2,357,553.

00:37:22.341 --> 00:37:28.158
- The tax rate is 0.0213. In Fund Code

00:37:28.418 --> 00:37:49.950
- The adopted budget is $9,434,058. The tax levy adopted is $3,685,751. The tax rate is .0333.

00:37:50.114 --> 00:38:02.139
- The adopted budget is $1,198,150. The tax levy is $788,000. The adopted tax rate is 0.0084.

00:38:02.139 --> 00:38:15.341
- In fund 1310, park non-reverting capital, the adopted budget is $100,000. The tax levy is $0.00. The

00:38:15.341 --> 00:38:17.694
- tax rate is 0.00.

00:38:18.050 --> 00:38:30.945
- 102 aviation airports. The adopted budget is $1,679,089. The tax levy is $1,252,000. The tax rate is

00:38:30.945 --> 00:38:44.478
- 0.0133. In Fund 2391, cumulative capital development, the adopted budget is $3,211,000. $3,211,000, yeah.

00:38:44.578 --> 00:38:56.727
- The tax levy is $3,685,751. The tax rate is 0.0333. In Fund 2402 Economic Development, the adopted budget

00:38:56.727 --> 00:39:08.418
- is $9,496,413. The tax levy is $0, and the tax rate is 0.00. This brings us to a total adopted budget

00:39:08.418 --> 00:39:10.366
- of $126 million.

00:39:10.498 --> 00:39:21.043
- $896,304, a total tax levy of $68,649,122 at a tax rate of 0.7130. On to the home rule. All right.

00:39:21.043 --> 00:39:32.120
- Batter up. All right. Fund code. We are now moving on to home rule funds that are not reviewed by DLGF.

00:39:32.120 --> 00:39:35.102
- There are a number of them.

00:39:35.202 --> 00:39:41.155
- Fund code nine five zero zero extradition and sheriff's assistance adopted budget zero dollars. Fund

00:39:41.155 --> 00:39:47.225
- code nine five zero one surveyors corner perpetuation adopted budget eighty nine thousand nine hundred

00:39:47.225 --> 00:39:53.178
- sixty six dollars. Fund code nine five zero two local public health services one one six one adopted

00:39:53.178 --> 00:39:57.598
- budget one million two hundred sixteen thousand seven hundred two dollars.

00:39:58.498 --> 00:40:09.312
- fund code 9503. Monroe County 9-1-1 fund adopted budget $688,730. Fund code 9505, auditors and eligible

00:40:09.312 --> 00:40:19.918
- deductions. The adopted budget is $348,648. In fund code 9507, community corrections fees $1,122. The

00:40:19.918 --> 00:40:21.790
- adopted budget is

00:40:21.890 --> 00:40:28.047
- one hundred seventeen thousand five hundred three dollars and fund code nine five zero eight user fee

00:40:28.047 --> 00:40:34.143
- jury pay the adopted budget is thirty eight thousand dollars the funds code nine five zero nine user

00:40:34.143 --> 00:40:40.421
- fees juvenile probation two one five zero the adopted budget is seven thousand and seventy nine dollars

00:40:40.421 --> 00:40:45.310
- in fund code nine five one zero user fees adult probation twenty one hundred the

00:40:46.050 --> 00:40:58.070
- adopted budget is $119,403. In fund code 9512, supplemental PD services, the adopted budget is $1,022,838.

00:40:58.070 --> 00:41:00.766
- In 9513, clerk's record

00:41:00.898 --> 00:41:11.381
- The adopted budget is $103,193. In fund code 9514, user fees, diversion and prosecutor, the adopted

00:41:11.381 --> 00:41:22.494
- budget is $95,437. In fund code 9515, user fees, court, alcohol and drug, the adopted budget is $270,175.

00:41:22.562 --> 00:41:32.282
- In Fund Code 9516, Local Health Maintenance, the adopted budget is $190,089. The Fund Code 9517, Emergency

00:41:32.282 --> 00:41:41.457
- Planning Right to Know, the adopted budget is $25,950. In Fund Code 9519, Mr. Mean, what is that? Is

00:41:41.457 --> 00:41:50.814
- that a typo? No, Community Corrections. Mr. Mean. Mr. Mean, thank you. The adopted budget is $128,500.

00:41:50.946 --> 00:41:58.934
- In fund code 9521, alternative dispute resolution, the adopted budget is $27,700. In fund code 9522,

00:41:58.934 --> 00:42:07.160
- sales disclosure county share, the adopted budget is $8. In fund code 9523, convention visitors capital

00:42:07.160 --> 00:42:15.702
- improvement maintenance, the adopted budget is $100,000. In fund code 9524, county offender transportation,

00:42:15.702 --> 00:42:20.606
- the adopted budget is $2,500. In fund code 9525, local health

00:42:20.770 --> 00:42:31.921
- Department Trust account. The adopted budget is $35,420 in Fund Code 9526. User fees, problem solving

00:42:31.921 --> 00:42:43.620
- courts. The adopted budget is $22,544. Third page. Fund Code 9527, Westside Economic Development, Richland

00:42:43.620 --> 00:42:49.086
- Township, TIFF. The adopted budget is $2,040,000.

00:42:49.250 --> 00:43:01.123
- $572,692 in 9528 46 corridor economic development Bloomington Township TIF the adopted budget is $67,001

00:43:01.123 --> 00:43:12.318
- in 9529 Fullerton Pike economic development TIF the adopted budget is $388,001 in fund 9530 Platte

00:43:12.386 --> 00:43:21.676
- the adopted budget is $500. In 9531 Convention Center operating, the adoption budget is $0. In 9532

00:43:21.676 --> 00:43:31.152
- User Fees Cable Franchise, the adopted budget is $0. In 9533 Firearms Training, the adopted budget is

00:43:31.152 --> 00:43:38.398
- $100,000. In 9534 Donations, Sheriff's K9-4108, the adopted budget is $4,500.

00:43:38.466 --> 00:43:47.583
- In 9535 PSAP Interlocal, the adopted budget is $4 million. In 9543 Public Health Emergency Fund, the

00:43:47.583 --> 00:43:56.610
- adopted budget is $2. In 9544, the Identification Security Protection adopted budget is $18,000. In

00:43:56.610 --> 00:44:06.268
- 9548 Park Non-Reverting Operating, the adopted budget is $300,000. In 9551 Recorders Records Perpetuation,

00:44:06.268 --> 00:44:08.254
- the adopted budget is

00:44:08.610 --> 00:44:19.908
- $572,793 in 9522 stormwater management. The adopted budget is $3,416,689 in fund 9559. Excuse me, I

00:44:19.908 --> 00:44:31.431
- think you said 9522 and it should be 9552. Thank you for the correction, Councilor Feitel. I will say

00:44:31.431 --> 00:44:37.758
- 9522 stormwater management. 9552 stormwater management.

00:44:37.954 --> 00:44:43.897
- three million four hundred sixteen six hundred eighty nine thousand dollars and fund nine five five

00:44:43.897 --> 00:44:49.246
- nine county elected officials training twenty four thousand dollars in fund nine five six

00:44:49.314 --> 00:45:01.604
- for Sheriff's Sale Administration, $54,000. In Fund 9569 Aviation Construction, $51,251. In Fund 9571

00:45:01.604 --> 00:45:13.652
- Lane Mile Direct Distribution, $421,932. In Fund 9580 Lit Correctional Rehab Facilities, the amount

00:45:13.652 --> 00:45:18.110
- of the adopted budget is $3,242,150.

00:45:18.210 --> 00:45:29.637
- In fund 9585 donations, youth shelter, the adopted budget is $2,250. In fund 9586 donations, emergency

00:45:29.637 --> 00:45:38.846
- management, the adopted budget is $1,628. In 9587 donations, veterans affairs, the

00:45:39.170 --> 00:45:50.113
- The adopted budget is $160. In fund 9588, federal award title IBD, the adopted budget is $58,518. In

00:45:50.113 --> 00:45:55.422
- fund 9589, curry profile TIF, the adopted budget

00:45:56.354 --> 00:46:07.238
- is $15,000 in 9590 donations. Safe place. The adopted budget is $1000 in 9591 donations. Sheriff's

00:46:07.238 --> 00:46:18.233
- Department. The adopted budget is $12,000 in 9592 donations. Prevention General. The adopted budget

00:46:18.233 --> 00:46:23.070
- is $1495 and funds 9593 donations. BTCC the

00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:29.865
- Adopted budget is eleven thousand eight hundred dollars in fund nine five nine eight donations parks.

00:46:29.865 --> 00:46:36.465
- The adopted budget is two hundred thousand dollars, bringing us to a grand total of twenty million one

00:46:36.465 --> 00:46:43.001
- hundred eighty seven thousand seven hundred forty eight dollars. Thank you so much, Councillor Henry.

00:46:43.001 --> 00:46:47.806
- Well, I'm going to move for a raise. Just kidding. That's across the hall.

00:46:48.706 --> 00:46:56.111
- All right, given all that, do we have anyone from the public that would like to speak on Monroe County

00:46:56.111 --> 00:47:03.443
- government's twenty twenty seven budget? If so, please come to the podium. If you're here in the Natu

00:47:03.443 --> 00:47:11.064
- Hill meeting room or online on teams, just simply raise your hand. All right, let's come back to council.

00:47:11.064 --> 00:47:17.246
- Are there any council comments on this twenty twenty seven Monroe County budget? Yes.

00:47:18.690 --> 00:47:27.342
- Yes. First of all, thank you to council office. Kim Shell for preparing this budget comparison. I hope

00:47:27.342 --> 00:47:35.994
- that we since we just got it, but I'm quickly going down to see if I can pick up some of the something

00:47:35.994 --> 00:47:44.730
- we need to take a closer look at when we look at stormwater management. It looks like we are increasing

00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:48.510
- that budget by a million 26,000 point or six

00:47:48.802 --> 00:47:56.600
- dollars. So that that's quite a bit increase for stormwater because we know that that stormwater is

00:47:56.600 --> 00:48:04.632
- tied to a fee that people are charged on their property taxes, but that's only going to the people who

00:48:04.632 --> 00:48:12.664
- do not live in the city. And so I think we have to keep a very close eye on what we're spending there.

00:48:12.664 --> 00:48:18.590
- The other big one that jumped out that I saw was that peace app interlocal.

00:48:18.690 --> 00:48:29.774
- that we went from $2,781,462 up to $4 million of an increase of $1,218,538. And so when you see those

00:48:29.774 --> 00:48:40.966
- kind of jumps, that percentage of a jump, that means we need to be watching very carefully where we're

00:48:40.966 --> 00:48:47.486
- going to end up with the dollars. Now, I'm looking at this.

00:48:48.322 --> 00:48:55.752
- I would, you know, if I'm sitting here with let it die, nothing else to do. I'd be looking at the four

00:48:55.752 --> 00:49:03.110
- beats at the same time. But I'm which says we just got these numbers. But I'm just this isn't a final

00:49:03.110 --> 00:49:10.395
- decision tonight. Anyway, there's no vote on it. But I think that's just things that we need to keep

00:49:10.395 --> 00:49:11.838
- an eye on. And it's

00:49:12.258 --> 00:49:20.522
- It's one thing reading off all these numbers, but the whole other thing for us to understand where it's

00:49:20.522 --> 00:49:28.468
- guiding us, where it's taking us, what path are we on? And so as I'm looking at it, I think we need

00:49:28.468 --> 00:49:36.573
- to do some studying here to see where we're actually happening. You know, with that lid correctional,

00:49:36.573 --> 00:49:41.182
- we're spending over half a million dollars more proposing

00:49:41.602 --> 00:49:48.137
- than we did before, and I'm not sure that that additional that they had said that they wanted to have

00:49:48.137 --> 00:49:54.737
- in their spending included. So that's it. You know, it's an extra six hundred and seven thousand seven

00:49:54.737 --> 00:50:01.336
- hundred forty five dollars that we're spending down out of that correctional. So those are just things

00:50:01.336 --> 00:50:06.398
- that I'm hoping we'll all have time to take a look at before our next meeting.

00:50:06.690 --> 00:50:14.211
- Thank you, Council Member Hawke. And as a reminder to Council, the Otter's Office has produced a spreadsheet

00:50:14.211 --> 00:50:21.387
- that tallies up the four Bs and where they are above, in the black or in the red. So look in your inbox

00:50:21.387 --> 00:50:28.356
- for that spreadsheet. Council, if it's all right, we do have a hand raised on Teams, and I'd like to

00:50:28.356 --> 00:50:31.806
- go to that hand if that's all right with Council.

00:50:32.290 --> 00:50:39.885
- Jamie Ford, you have your hand raised. Please unmute and you'll have three minutes. Hi, my name is Jamie

00:50:39.885 --> 00:50:47.335
- Ford. I'm a Monroe County resident. I just wanted to say that I heard the reading for the prosecutor's

00:50:47.335 --> 00:50:54.713
- office. Yeah, it seems based on news articles that I've recently read, it seems like our prosecutor's

00:50:54.713 --> 00:50:57.534
- office and the probation office aren't

00:50:58.114 --> 00:51:03.813
- really keeping the people safe. I mean, there's literally going to be a convicted pedophile released

00:51:03.813 --> 00:51:09.738
- tomorrow that is having charges expunged off his record because the prosecutor's office decided to plead

00:51:09.738 --> 00:51:15.663
- that down. There was also somebody at a high school football game that was supposed to be on home arrest

00:51:15.663 --> 00:51:21.588
- because he was convicted for shooting four different people, quote unquote, accidentally at a nightclub.

00:51:21.588 --> 00:51:25.086
- Why are we paying all this money for our prosecutor's office?

00:51:25.218 --> 00:51:32.081
- probation office if they're not going to actually prosecute and keep people you know like I get in jail

00:51:32.081 --> 00:51:38.813
- is bad but so is you know accidentally shooting people and so it's harming children so if they're not

00:51:38.813 --> 00:51:45.742
- going to prosecute I think their budget could be cut. Thank you. Thank you Ms. Ford. All right I'm gonna

00:51:45.742 --> 00:51:51.550
- come back to council and if you do have another comment please raise your hand on teams

00:51:51.842 --> 00:51:57.934
- or a step forward to the podium here in the U-Hill room. And let me just make sure no other council

00:51:57.934 --> 00:52:04.208
- members have any comments. All right, council member, we'll go with you first and then we'll head down

00:52:04.208 --> 00:52:08.350
- the bench. Thanks. Appreciate it, Mr. President. Council, I want to

00:52:08.610 --> 00:52:14.500
- Thank you all. I was in and out of our hearings with my teaching commitments. And so some of the,

00:52:14.500 --> 00:52:20.570
- you know, items that were listed here, I did not have an opportunity to hear during the hearing, but

00:52:20.570 --> 00:52:26.761
- had to do my own work on that. This is a it's a solid budget. I think we are finding ourselves in year

00:52:26.761 --> 00:52:32.771
- two of what the transitions in state tax policy are giving us. You know, last year at this time, we

00:52:32.771 --> 00:52:34.334
- were very concerned about

00:52:34.498 --> 00:52:39.459
- You're making payroll. We started to leverage other funds like the edit to help balance our budget,

00:52:39.459 --> 00:52:44.470
- which we are again doing this year. I wanted to take a moment maybe just to clarify in the ordinance

00:52:44.470 --> 00:52:49.432
- from the auditors table. We have a line item that talks about the status of our estimated levy, our

00:52:49.432 --> 00:52:54.790
- total property tax, and then a status that says over max by twelve million one hundred ninety four thousand

00:52:54.790 --> 00:53:00.446
- eight hundred eighteen dollars. Would you like to share what that means for the public so we can understand that?

00:53:00.674 --> 00:53:08.702
- Absolutely. Thanks for the question, Counselor Henry. So we're over max by design. What we do is we put

00:53:08.770 --> 00:53:14.673
- all of the levy funds, except for the general fund, where we think they need to be. You've got an email

00:53:14.673 --> 00:53:20.009
- recently kind of with an explanation about that. But then for the general fund, that's where,

00:53:20.009 --> 00:53:25.741
- if you recall, FSG usually calls it pennies from heaven, where we wanna make sure we get every piece

00:53:25.741 --> 00:53:31.645
- of the levy available. So we inflate that to make sure all the additional levy is funneled there, where

00:53:31.645 --> 00:53:34.142
- it has the most flexibility to be utilized.

00:53:34.274 --> 00:53:40.584
- I appreciate that. Again, I think a solid approach here for this year. I do worry about long term. I

00:53:40.584 --> 00:53:46.832
- do worry about some of our funds that we've done well, I think, to reduce reversions over the years

00:53:46.832 --> 00:53:52.830
- to have people come to us and ask her what they need. I think a lot of counties in the state do

00:53:53.122 --> 00:53:58.120
- Do not usually appropriate the entire line just because of department asks for it. I mean simply because

00:53:58.120 --> 00:54:02.879
- a department has a fund and there's a balance that's positive Does not necessarily mean the council

00:54:02.879 --> 00:54:07.734
- has to hand over the entire appropriation at that time We're seeing that with our city partners right

00:54:07.734 --> 00:54:12.446
- now as they are throttling some of their full appropriations to have offices come back and explain

00:54:12.738 --> 00:54:18.103
- At a midpoint in the year what if they really do need those funds? I think last year we had a lot of

00:54:18.103 --> 00:54:23.679
- success with that with elections when we worked through that I appreciate that Eric. You're here tonight

00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.991
- with the health department. I want to reiterate for the public that In my view it might be somewhat

00:54:28.991 --> 00:54:34.302
- biased that your department in particular got thrown a monkey wrench and to try to present a budget

00:54:34.302 --> 00:54:36.958
- of some kind to us that while it is here and it's

00:54:37.026 --> 00:54:41.953
- good. We're probably going to be revisiting that a few times over the next quarter or two as we really

00:54:41.953 --> 00:54:46.975
- figure out what the future of our health department is and who's leading it and who's also on that board

00:54:46.975 --> 00:54:51.902
- and maybe even the health officer at that point as we understand the future there is really important.

00:54:51.970 --> 00:54:57.645
- I will say I have my own reservations. I don't know if there's time or if there's interest from the

00:54:57.645 --> 00:55:03.319
- Council on looking at some of those padded funds that we still have. And we do have funds that have

00:55:03.319 --> 00:55:09.335
- account lines. I think about like special projects and the cumulative capital fund, which is very opaque.

00:55:09.335 --> 00:55:13.534
- And where we see spending that happens in the Board of Commissioners that

00:55:13.634 --> 00:55:19.381
- We don't really get a vote on it. It's just contracts happen. Things happen in there that we need. So

00:55:19.381 --> 00:55:25.071
- I think get clarity on what those funds are really doing, because this is our one and only chance to

00:55:25.071 --> 00:55:30.706
- set that table. From that point, departments are empowered with their budget to go forth and govern

00:55:30.706 --> 00:55:32.734
- for the year and do their work. But

00:55:32.994 --> 00:55:38.887
- It's like I said, solid budget. I'm proud of the effort we've put in here. I think we're again year

00:55:38.887 --> 00:55:44.838
- two of rocky shoals with the state legislation. And, you know, I imagine the years to come are going

00:55:44.838 --> 00:55:50.731
- to have to get a little tighter on our questions for folks to make sure we're using our tax dollars

00:55:50.731 --> 00:55:56.682
- where folks in our community voted for and want them to go. But thank you, Mr. President. Thank you.

00:55:56.682 --> 00:56:02.398
- When I was mentioning the other numbers that was from one page, there's more than one page here.

00:56:02.690 --> 00:56:12.636
- The two that really jump out from the first page that has like the general fund and airport so forth

00:56:12.636 --> 00:56:22.483
- is that great big jump in the economic development income tax. And that is a major jump. We went up

00:56:22.483 --> 00:56:29.278
- from four million, six, six, seven, seven, one nine to nine million.

00:56:29.506 --> 00:56:40.802
- increase of $4.8 million plus. So that is a big one, and that's income tax dollars is just. And it gets

00:56:40.802 --> 00:56:51.882
- replenished as people who are paying income tax, but that is a major jump that that we took in there.

00:56:51.882 --> 00:56:58.942
- And what I saw on that when I looked at it and I missed the last

00:56:59.138 --> 00:57:08.467
- part of that meeting where this discussion was for the million dollars for a donation. It appeared to

00:57:08.467 --> 00:57:17.978
- me that when you look down at the debt, if we had included, if we had reduced that debt by that million

00:57:17.978 --> 00:57:27.216
- dollars that we're just donating elsewhere and used it for county government expenses, we could have

00:57:27.216 --> 00:57:28.862
- reduced that debt

00:57:28.962 --> 00:57:42.159
- of. Repayment which is the difference between those two numbers is 8,000,523,200. Now we haven't actually

00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:54.983
- voted as yet on that total bond, but that is a gigantic difference. Of what the total expenditures are

00:57:54.983 --> 00:57:58.718
- going to be for the taxpayer.

00:57:59.074 --> 00:58:09.168
- a bond of over $9 million with an increase of $8,500,000, then that's just a big jump. And then you

00:58:09.168 --> 00:58:20.271
- add in that almost $5 million jump in the economic development income tax. I think that's a lot of additional

00:58:20.271 --> 00:58:24.510
- spending the taxpayer will be paying for.

00:58:25.666 --> 00:58:32.900
- Thank you. I'm going to look over to our auditor, Ms. Gregory. Yes, thank you. Great points, Councillor

00:58:32.900 --> 00:58:40.064
- Hawke, as always. You kind of hit it before I raised my hand, but I do want to point out to the public

00:58:40.064 --> 00:58:47.158
- and to the council that our our tax rates that you're looking at now is inflated and will be adjusted

00:58:47.158 --> 00:58:52.862
- by the Department of Local Government Finance. That is because one of the GO bond

00:58:53.058 --> 00:59:00.468
- advertisement. We left that geobahn budget where we advertise essentially and because we haven't closed

00:59:00.468 --> 00:59:04.030
- on it yet and because you haven't voted to adopt.

00:59:04.226 --> 00:59:09.972
- We know it's not going to be that high, but it does include a portion of the budget to pay the 2025

00:59:09.972 --> 00:59:15.775
- geobond. So that's part of it. But then the remainder of it is what hasn't been decided yet. I think

00:59:15.775 --> 00:59:21.578
- the last number I saw was about 4.8 million that you're considering for projects. So I don't know if

00:59:21.578 --> 00:59:27.381
- that's what's going to pass or if you're going to go below that. But the rate obviously is dependent

00:59:27.381 --> 00:59:28.990
- upon the number you choose.

00:59:29.090 --> 00:59:34.780
- In addition to that, we've already talked a little bit about the general fund, which is also inflated.

00:59:34.780 --> 00:59:40.360
- So those are both increasing that bottom line, that rate, the overall rate for the county. So if you

00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:46.050
- look at the 2026 budget order, for example, that's where it all kind of tallies out and the department

00:59:46.050 --> 00:59:51.574
- has adjusted everything. So they'll do the same for 2027, but we'll know a lot more when we can get

00:59:51.574 --> 00:59:53.342
- the corrected numbers in there.

00:59:57.058 --> 01:00:04.439
- Auditor, is there any questions, please? Just continuing in that vein. When will we be we everyone be

01:00:04.439 --> 01:00:11.748
- able to see corrected numbers in there? OK, I was just thinking I misspoke slightly because we don't

01:00:11.748 --> 01:00:19.346
- get the budget order until middle or so of January. Unfortunately, but we can give you a better ballpark

01:00:19.346 --> 01:00:23.326
- prior to that. Once we you know, we know the amount of

01:00:23.842 --> 01:00:31.946
- the bond officially, and we can give you a better idea of tax rate. It won't be exact because the department

01:00:31.946 --> 01:00:39.900
- does that, but better if that helps. So, I mean, right now, if we look at the twenty twenty seven document

01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:47.632
- here, we see point seven one three zero. However, when you take out the inflation for the general fund,

01:00:47.632 --> 01:00:51.870
- we're at point five eight three six approximately. Don't

01:00:52.002 --> 01:00:58.934
- quote me on those numbers, it's just an estimate for you. However, we still, with the .5836, still has

01:00:58.934 --> 01:01:05.933
- the inflated debt service. So it's gonna be reduced again. Does that make sense? Okay. And I would just

01:01:05.933 --> 01:01:10.846
- remind Council and the public that we are gonna be very busy this month.

01:01:11.010 --> 01:01:16.884
- So in one week, we're going to be having a regular session meeting where we're going to be going over

01:01:16.884 --> 01:01:22.701
- some of those general obligation bond conversations. So that's happening in one week. And then we're

01:01:22.701 --> 01:01:28.690
- adopting this budget the week after that. So we're going to be here for the next two Tuesdays, starting

01:01:28.690 --> 01:01:34.910
- at five o'clock to do a lot of this work. I will also mention to counsel that right now the budget is open.

01:01:35.234 --> 01:01:43.171
- So if you have changes or you have adjustments, now is the time to do so. We certainly can do that at

01:01:43.171 --> 01:01:50.407
- our meeting next week. But if there are this, this is one of the times that you have to make

01:01:50.407 --> 01:01:58.344
- those adjustments. Yes, please. Yes. In regards to the million dollars in the edit that was discussed

01:01:58.344 --> 01:02:04.958
- at the meeting at the last meeting, I've asked if I could, if I could, if the public

01:02:05.122 --> 01:02:17.066
- you could see what the grant request was. What it's for. And then also what a copy of the contract would

01:02:17.066 --> 01:02:22.526
- look like. What are we contracting to for them?

01:02:22.626 --> 01:02:29.193
- What do the people, what do the taxpayers get for the million dollars? And it needs to be specific,

01:02:29.193 --> 01:02:35.630
- not generalized. It needs to be specific. Just like when we do the grants with the Sophia Travis,

01:02:35.630 --> 01:02:42.197
- you know, those things influence on, but they're specific and they have to do what they say they're

01:02:42.197 --> 01:02:48.830
- going to do, or there's a callback on there. And so I would like to see, maybe you all have seen it,

01:02:48.830 --> 01:02:50.078
- I haven't seen it,

01:02:50.594 --> 01:02:58.198
- And I've called and asked several people and everybody going, oh, I don't know, you just think it's

01:02:58.198 --> 01:03:05.955
- a donation. Well, we can't, we're not allowed to do donations. I mean, we're just not allowed to just

01:03:05.955 --> 01:03:13.939
- donate. So we'll have to have a, it must be in the form of a grant or something of the sort. So. I mean,

01:03:13.939 --> 01:03:18.654
- I think we all, as with previous conversations, we agreed to,

01:03:20.514 --> 01:03:27.329
- move forward with that as one of the items included in, I believe we were talking about the edit. I

01:03:27.329 --> 01:03:33.666
- would assume that there would be some sort of contractual agreement. Could, does anyone have

01:03:33.666 --> 01:03:40.549
- more information? I just, you know, I was okay with just general, but I agree. We at some point need

01:03:40.549 --> 01:03:48.045
- to see more. I think Mr. Cockrell was looking into that. I know he was talking to SBOA after his conversation

01:03:48.045 --> 01:03:50.430
- with Ms. Hawk, our counselor Hawk.

01:03:51.490 --> 01:03:57.765
- I think there are a couple ways to do it. And I don't want to commit to doing it one way without talking

01:03:57.765 --> 01:04:03.800
- to Jeff. But I think one possible way is to structure it like Sophia Travis, where it's a grant. And

01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:10.015
- there is a grant agreement for that. So that is one of the things we're looking into. But I think there

01:04:10.015 --> 01:04:12.286
- might be other possibilities. Thanks.

01:04:12.930 --> 01:04:19.078
- And I will also point out that not only is the council busy, but the commissioners who handle contracts

01:04:19.078 --> 01:04:25.226
- and who handle this sort of thing are meeting on Thursday right in this room at 10 AM. And you can find

01:04:25.226 --> 01:04:31.137
- the link to join that meeting and ask all the questions you need to about contracts and things like

01:04:31.137 --> 01:04:37.226
- that. Please. Just when they're putting those numbers together, I think it would be very important for

01:04:37.226 --> 01:04:42.014
- the public to know, certainly I want to know, is a million dollars for services?

01:04:42.114 --> 01:04:49.995
- or is it for bricks and mortar? And when I've asked that question, I'm not sure anybody has the answer.

01:04:49.995 --> 01:04:57.649
- If they do, it's not coming through very clearly to me what it is. All right, Councilmember Deckard.

01:04:57.649 --> 01:05:05.605
- Mr. President, I have a suggestion rather than us talking in and around all this. I think that we invite

01:05:05.605 --> 01:05:09.470
- the folks from Beacon to come and talk about this.

01:05:09.570 --> 01:05:17.371
- and where the short for all their campaign is. Also, I would recommend that for any counselor that has

01:05:17.371 --> 01:05:25.020
- not ever paid a visit down there to talk with them on site with some of our constituents, as I have,

01:05:25.020 --> 01:05:32.593
- and I know others have, that might be a good time to do a visit. I also know that I appreciated the

01:05:32.593 --> 01:05:38.046
- invitation I think all of us got when that effort for this new facility

01:05:38.530 --> 01:05:45.981
- rolled out and we were able to go talk about our hopes, wishes for it in the new neighborhood where

01:05:45.981 --> 01:05:53.581
- they were doing the outreach, where it's going to be. As I said in our last meeting, we wouldn't have

01:05:53.581 --> 01:06:01.330
- many of these things that counties and cities and townships and towns have to do if we didn't have many

01:06:01.330 --> 01:06:05.950
- of the issues that we have currently right now in a difficult

01:06:06.082 --> 01:06:12.729
- economy and otherwise. And so counties, cities, maybe even libraries and waste reduction districts will

01:06:12.729 --> 01:06:19.121
- now be figuring out under a new set of rules how to take care of a diverse set of different people.

01:06:19.121 --> 01:06:25.513
- And that's probably not going away. But I think a presentation here just to get to the point and in

01:06:25.513 --> 01:06:31.904
- visits down there, we can maybe get us all in my car and drive down there or walk down there or any

01:06:31.904 --> 01:06:33.758
- number of things to do that.

01:06:33.986 --> 01:06:40.692
- and see what's going on and what this would do and to see the maps and the plans and all those things

01:06:40.692 --> 01:06:47.529
- have been talked about for, I think, three or four years now. I think there's a pretty healthy website,

01:06:47.529 --> 01:06:54.234
- right, light the way? There is a healthy website. That's just not the point, though. We need to, with

01:06:54.234 --> 01:07:01.071
- the fiscal body, we need to see what it's supposed to be for exactly and what the contracts should look

01:07:01.071 --> 01:07:02.846
- like. Yes. That's our job.

01:07:03.266 --> 01:07:09.860
- project or not, we need to see. All right. We're going to we're going to take this down a little bit.

01:07:09.860 --> 01:07:16.065
- If you need to speak, let me know. And I'll acknowledge you, Mr. Decker. I don't have to speak,

01:07:16.065 --> 01:07:22.723
- but I will. I guess the only thing I'll say is, you know, I'm going to go back to a statement. I think

01:07:22.723 --> 01:07:29.317
- I made it the last meeting and I noticed one one or two things happening out there in the world right

01:07:29.317 --> 01:07:31.838
- now. People griping were people doing.

01:07:32.482 --> 01:07:39.591
- griping or doing. And I think in the community right now, we're moving from griping to doing on this

01:07:39.591 --> 01:07:46.842
- kind of a project. I'm not sure everything's 100% perfect, but it's got to be better than what we have

01:07:46.842 --> 01:07:53.881
- now, which is everybody sitting on Facebook complaining about what they see every day while they're

01:07:53.881 --> 01:08:00.286
- driving. And I think that beyond driving, if you get out among the people out of the cars,

01:08:00.450 --> 01:08:06.157
- You see a lot of lives living that. And I hope that this project gets the attention that it deserves.

01:08:06.157 --> 01:08:11.809
- I hope that we schedule a beacon in here for 20 to 30 minutes. I think that we should probably every

01:08:11.809 --> 01:08:17.460
- once a month have a beacon in here. Mary Morgan in here. We should probably have new hope. We should

01:08:17.460 --> 01:08:23.055
- probably ask questions why we have to have so many of those organizations and why that those things

01:08:23.055 --> 01:08:24.734
- are happening elsewhere, too.

01:08:26.562 --> 01:08:36.724
- All right, we have currently the 2027 Monroe County government budget open. Are there any other counselor

01:08:36.724 --> 01:08:46.406
- comments? Oh, or questions? Absolutely, Council Member Wilz. I have a question for the auditor about

01:08:46.406 --> 01:08:52.350
- the debt service. Obviously, that is directly impacted by our

01:08:52.546 --> 01:09:00.114
- and we'll figure that out next week. That kind of thing. Is there anything else in there or is it just

01:09:00.114 --> 01:09:07.462
- all of the geo bonds? OK, so it is just geo bonds. It's just a pair geo bond debt. So right now the

01:09:07.462 --> 01:09:14.810
- only outstanding geo bond we have is the 2025, whereas where we began the six year. Bonding period.

01:09:14.810 --> 01:09:19.806
- Alright, with the when the new law came into effect and so that so.

01:09:20.578 --> 01:09:30.265
- The budget for 2026 covered. That payment. And probably the tail end of 25 or I'm sorry, 24 OK, so then

01:09:30.265 --> 01:09:39.672
- 20 have and then 27 is going to have the 2025 longer term and 26 and 26. You got it and that gets to

01:09:39.672 --> 01:09:49.918
- the point I was making at our last meeting. This is going to get very expensive if we keep doing it this way.

01:09:50.114 --> 01:09:58.317
- Thank you for that. All right. Just second on that. I think you're seeing the snowball coming. Councillor

01:09:58.317 --> 01:10:04.894
- Wilts and kind of ties to my earlier point that we have a solid budget this year but

01:10:05.026 --> 01:10:13.254
- The level of scrutiny that we really need to start putting here is it's just paying the debt. It's it's

01:10:13.254 --> 01:10:21.798
- running up the card And by year five, we'll be paying on five years worth exactly right before the cool-off

01:10:21.798 --> 01:10:29.709
- in year six, right? And so yeah and and wondering where our millions went Good point. Thank you Any

01:10:29.709 --> 01:10:32.478
- other council comments Seeing none

01:10:33.378 --> 01:10:40.503
- The public hearing for the 2027 Monroe County government budget is closed. All right, next we are going

01:10:40.503 --> 01:10:47.629
- to do the first reading for ordinance 2026-38 Monroe County 2027 salary ordinance. There's two of these

01:10:47.629 --> 01:10:54.754
- and instead of making counselor file read both of them, I would like to volunteer to read B if you will

01:10:54.754 --> 01:11:00.030
- read A. Oh good, B is the longer one, right? Yes. Thank you. You're welcome.

01:11:00.770 --> 01:11:09.197
- All right, we'll have the first reading of our 2027 salary ordinance. I will ask Councilor Feidl to

01:11:09.197 --> 01:11:18.467
- read ordinance 2026-38A, the 2027 salary ordinance for the elected officials. Whereas the Indiana legislature

01:11:18.467 --> 01:11:26.978
- adopted Indiana Code 36-2-3, and I don't know what that stands for. Et sec, just say et sec. Et sec,

01:11:26.978 --> 01:11:28.158
- I got et sec.

01:11:28.290 --> 01:11:36.775
- which established the Monroe County Council as the governing fiscal body of Monroe County, and whereas

01:11:36.775 --> 01:11:45.179
- Indiana Code 36-2-5-3 grants the Monroe County Council the power to, one, fix the number of officers,

01:11:45.179 --> 01:11:51.934
- deputies, and other employees, two, describe and classify positions and services,

01:11:52.098 --> 01:11:59.363
- three, adopt schedules of compensation, and four, hire or contract with persons to assist in the development

01:11:59.363 --> 01:12:06.162
- of schedules of compensation. Whereas the Monroe County Council wishes to establish a salary schedule

01:12:06.162 --> 01:12:13.228
- and compensation policies, now be it ordained by the Monroe County Council of Indiana that this ordinance

01:12:13.228 --> 01:12:16.894
- affixes the salary for elected officials of the county

01:12:17.058 --> 01:12:26.281
- from the period of January 1, 2027 to December 31, 2027, whose salary is comprised of funds payable

01:12:26.281 --> 01:12:35.874
- from any county fund or budget as provided by IC 36-2-5 at SEC. These salaries are hereby solidly fixed

01:12:35.874 --> 01:12:43.806
- and follows the maximum level of salary as shown on the elected official salary grid.

01:12:44.290 --> 01:12:51.399
- All payments made pursuant to this ordinance are contingent upon the strict compliance with and adherence

01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:58.173
- to the benefit, compensation, fiscally related, and state and federally mandated requirements of the

01:12:58.173 --> 01:13:05.148
- Monroe County Personnel Policy Handbook. It is the intent of the County Council that this language will

01:13:05.148 --> 01:13:12.190
- encourage compliance with personnel policies which may have a fiscal impact on Monroe County government.

01:13:13.250 --> 01:13:21.180
- For elected officials, time worked on or after January 1, 2027, and prior to midnight, December 31,

01:13:21.180 --> 01:13:29.269
- 2027, shall be calculated and paid within the parameters of the salary ordinance and personnel policy

01:13:29.269 --> 01:13:37.278
- handbook, regardless of when the payment is issued. Elected officials shall not receive compensation

01:13:38.082 --> 01:13:45.509
- above the salary range authorized for their position in the elected official salary grid. The county

01:13:45.509 --> 01:13:53.156
- auditor shall not issue pay warrants for pay that exceeds the authorized amount specified in the salary

01:13:53.156 --> 01:14:00.729
- ordinance. The salary amounts listed are an annual appropriation amount. Calculation of the daily rate

01:14:00.729 --> 01:14:05.950
- may result in a slight variation and will not be adjusted at year end.

01:14:07.042 --> 01:14:13.497
- elected official base rate schedule to establish a more equitable system of setting salaries for the

01:14:13.497 --> 01:14:19.889
- Monroe County elected officials not set by the state. The county council has established within the

01:14:19.889 --> 01:14:26.280
- annual salary ordinance a base rate for elected officials with a schedule of amounts to be applied.

01:14:26.280 --> 01:14:32.799
- The base rate schedule is outlined in section one of the election. Excuse me, of the elected official

01:14:32.799 --> 01:14:33.630
- salary grid.

01:14:33.890 --> 01:14:45.806
- for elected officials whose salary is set by the state. The state mandated salaries are amended annually

01:14:45.806 --> 01:14:57.495
- on July 1st. The sheriff is excluded from the base rate schedule as his or her salary is paid pursuant

01:14:57.495 --> 01:15:01.694
- to IC 36-2-13-2.5 or IC 36-2-13-2.8.

01:15:02.402 --> 01:15:09.555
- It is the intent and direction of the Monroe County Council that all salaries paid by the County Council,

01:15:09.555 --> 01:15:16.438
- which are tied or related to the Monroe County Sheriff, as is mandated by the state of Indiana, shall

01:15:16.438 --> 01:15:23.524
- be automatically amended at the same time as the state mandated salaries on July 1st. The County Council

01:15:23.524 --> 01:15:30.407
- recognizes that this is an exception to the general rule for county set salaries, which are generally

01:15:30.407 --> 01:15:32.094
- modified on January 1st.

01:15:33.314 --> 01:15:41.348
- Additional information regarding payments of certifications, supplementals and or per diems is outlined

01:15:41.348 --> 01:15:49.072
- in section two of the elected officials salary grid. Presented to the Monroe County Council read in

01:15:49.072 --> 01:15:57.183
- full for the first time on the sixth day of October, twenty twenty six. Thank you so much, Councilmember

01:15:57.183 --> 01:16:00.350
- Pytel. Do we have anyone from the public

01:16:00.674 --> 01:16:08.139
- that would like to speak on ordinance 2026-38A, the 2027 salary ordinance for elected officials. If

01:16:08.139 --> 01:16:15.530
- you're here in the NatU Hill Room, come to the podium. If you're on Teams, simply raise your hand.

01:16:15.530 --> 01:16:23.966
- All right, we do have a hand raised. Jody Medeira, Commissioner, please unmute yourself. You have three minutes.

01:16:37.474 --> 01:16:48.863
- I am here because on behalf of the board of commissioners, because my colleague is not able to be here

01:16:48.863 --> 01:16:57.598
- and sorry. Sorry, sick kid. Take your time. We've all we've all had sick kids.

01:17:10.306 --> 01:17:19.252
- Commissioner Madeira, are you still there? Yeah, go. The. I'm sorry, can you come back to me? Absolutely,

01:17:19.252 --> 01:17:28.029
- yeah. If you have public comment again, if you're here in the Natu Hill room, please come to the podium

01:17:28.029 --> 01:17:36.638
- or if you are on team, simply raise your hand. I see Jamie Ford has their hand raised. Please unmute.

01:17:37.058 --> 01:17:44.483
- and you will have three minutes to speak on this elected official salary ordinance. Yeah, just quick,

01:17:44.483 --> 01:17:51.763
- I don't know, maybe this is just me having what these call a crash out, but I know this council has

01:17:51.763 --> 01:17:59.042
- in the past decided to like freeze their salaries because of, you know, budget issues and all that.

01:17:59.042 --> 01:18:06.686
- And to me, that shows great leadership. It would be great for the board of commissioners to do the same.

01:18:07.010 --> 01:18:13.125
- We are literally, the county is gonna be in litigation next year because of this jail situation.

01:18:13.125 --> 01:18:19.555
- And yet, based on the last time I looked at the budget, it looked like they are supposed to get a pay

01:18:19.555 --> 01:18:26.490
- raise. Everybody else that's elected, I don't have a problem with it, but the commissioners, we're literally,

01:18:26.490 --> 01:18:32.983
- I mean, outside council has had to be hired with extra tax dollars. We're literally gonna be in courts

01:18:32.983 --> 01:18:34.622
- paying fees and all that.

01:18:34.818 --> 01:18:42.430
- because of their failure to maintain the building. And so, yeah, I think they should demonstrate leadership,

01:18:42.430 --> 01:18:48.855
- and they, at this point, honestly, I'm angry enough, they should have to pay to continue to

01:18:48.855 --> 01:18:55.559
- be the commissioners, but I'll take a pay freeze at this point. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Ford.

01:18:55.559 --> 01:19:02.752
- All right, looking to see if we have any other folks that would like to speak on this salary ordinance

01:19:02.752 --> 01:19:04.638
- for the elected officials.

01:19:07.554 --> 01:19:16.297
- We're gonna go to council questions or comments and we'll hold space for Commissioner Madeira if they

01:19:16.297 --> 01:19:25.126
- are able to come back online. Please. I wanted to point out that they have changed it from a bi-weekly

01:19:25.126 --> 01:19:34.041
- salary rate to a daily rate. I'm sure there's a reason for that, but I see that it's been changed. Yes.

01:19:34.041 --> 01:19:37.470
- What happens is at the end of the year,

01:19:37.794 --> 01:19:49.245
- when there's 2026 amounts and then there's 2027 amounts, we can't just do a bi-weekly check. So we have

01:19:49.245 --> 01:20:00.586
- to do those by daily rate. So then that way we can calculate, okay, you may have six days for 2026 and

01:20:00.586 --> 01:20:02.238
- then four days

01:20:02.562 --> 01:20:12.622
- for 2027. So that's why we changed it to a daily rate so that we can easily calculate that transition

01:20:12.622 --> 01:20:22.780
- period between the 2026 and the 2027. Okay, so may I speak? Does that also apply to the chief deputies

01:20:22.780 --> 01:20:31.262
- because their salaries are tied to the elected official? So it seemed to me you might

01:20:31.618 --> 01:20:41.200
- have to do the same thing with the chief deputies? No, it is not due to the fact that they are not elected

01:20:41.200 --> 01:20:50.244
- and an elected officials is paid through to the end of the year. Per our salary ordinance, the chief

01:20:50.244 --> 01:20:59.289
- deputies are lumped in with the Monroe County employees and they also receive the pay. So regardless

01:20:59.289 --> 01:21:00.990
- of when they work,

01:21:01.506 --> 01:21:09.795
- they will be paid out at the 2027 rate. The reason why question that, and I don't know whether you're

01:21:09.795 --> 01:21:18.653
- around. You probably work when they when we decided to start paying early and I said, look, what's happening

01:21:18.653 --> 01:21:27.186
- is that if you have a new elected person of January one and they have a new chief deputy, that new chief

01:21:27.186 --> 01:21:31.006
- deputies will get paid a different amount than

01:21:31.458 --> 01:21:40.229
- other chief deputies that for the same. Do you see what I'm saying? It made a difference. And I think

01:21:40.229 --> 01:21:49.257
- that's when Jeff Ellington was a three quarter because the chief deputies were not was not. They weren't

01:21:49.257 --> 01:21:58.028
- being paid equally. But that was then. This is now. Yeah, it's like it's like that's before. That was

01:21:58.028 --> 01:21:58.974
- before me.

01:22:00.674 --> 01:22:06.681
- Any other councilors have any comments? Any council members have any other comments before we go back

01:22:06.681 --> 01:22:12.923
- to Commissioner Madeira? Please, Mr. Henry. Maybe a point of clarification for the public and the comment

01:22:12.923 --> 01:22:18.871
- we had. I'll look to the table, Kim and Brian. So our adjustments here this year are just scheduled.

01:22:18.871 --> 01:22:24.878
- I want to make sure for the public's understanding that we're not, it's a raise, but it's a scheduled

01:22:24.878 --> 01:22:29.118
- percentage against what we usually do in the county with the exception.

01:22:29.314 --> 01:22:37.808
- the surveyors' salary, which we made an adjustment on. Is that a fair way to put it? Yes. So in plain

01:22:37.808 --> 01:22:46.218
- English for the public's understanding? Yes. The council decided for a COLA of 2% for all personnel,

01:22:46.218 --> 01:22:54.878
- which included the elected officials. So all elected officials got a 2% raise. We have a grid where the

01:22:56.546 --> 01:23:05.459
- the elected officials based on we have a base rate of 80 for 2027 is going to be eighty two thousand

01:23:05.459 --> 01:23:14.461
- nine fifty five well the council gave each of the elected officials a certain percentage of that base

01:23:14.461 --> 01:23:23.815
- rate so the commissioners therefore get seventy percent of that base rate so yes they do they are getting

01:23:23.815 --> 01:23:26.110
- that two percent increase

01:23:26.242 --> 01:23:31.656
- but they're getting a percentage of that base rate. In Monroe County, the board of commissioners are

01:23:31.656 --> 01:23:37.070
- a part-time position, basically. They're not a hundred percent position. Correct. They're not. Yeah.

01:23:37.070 --> 01:23:42.645
- You have labeled them as not. Yes. As well as the corner and as well as the council. I just wanted that

01:23:42.645 --> 01:23:48.113
- to be fair in the public reading there. I appreciate the public comment, but there's a little more in

01:23:48.113 --> 01:23:53.902
- the numbers there. And I thank you for clarification. Thank you. And the committee commissioners themselves

01:23:53.902 --> 01:23:54.974
- don't get to choose

01:23:55.554 --> 01:24:02.719
- the rate or get to choose their salary, that's all done by the council. Speaking of commissioners,

01:24:02.719 --> 01:24:10.102
- Commissioner Madeira has their hand raised. Commissioner Madeira, would you, are you in a position or

01:24:10.102 --> 01:24:17.557
- a point that you can unmute? If you are, you have three minutes to speak on this budget. Yes, I am now

01:24:17.557 --> 01:24:25.374
- in a position. I'm so sorry. So just because I had to step away and I may have misheard, I wanted to give a

01:24:25.634 --> 01:24:33.304
- a talk a few moments in support for just basically keeping the COLA. And so I want to say that the annual

01:24:33.304 --> 01:24:41.046
- US inflation rate is now 3.4% for the 12-month setting in August. And so I don't really want our employees

01:24:41.046 --> 01:24:48.426
- to take a pay cut. I think we're going to keep pay level not ahead. By keeping our COLA, we are going

01:24:48.426 --> 01:24:54.142
- to keep our employees where they were last year. Turnover is really expensive.

01:24:54.242 --> 01:25:00.161
- And if we replace a deputy dispatcher or clerk, that is just means more recruiting, training and overtime

01:25:00.161 --> 01:25:05.801
- to cover the gap. And we already faced strict competition for workers. And so, you know, I support a

01:25:05.801 --> 01:25:11.386
- cost of living adjustment for our county employees to the max in the council's discretion. And so I

01:25:11.386 --> 01:25:17.305
- wanted to just put that in there in case I heard something. I know we're talking about the elected budget

01:25:17.305 --> 01:25:22.945
- right now, but I just wanted to address that in case I misheard the public comment. I'm sorry, cause

01:25:22.945 --> 01:25:24.062
- I had to step away.

01:25:24.290 --> 01:25:31.816
- And just out of an abundance of caution, I will also say that my commissioner colleagues regret not

01:25:31.816 --> 01:25:39.568
- being able to be here tonight. Commissioner Thomas had to be at the Planning Commission. And so we are

01:25:39.568 --> 01:25:47.620
- both the legislative and executive branch of county government. I think this legislative position requires

01:25:47.620 --> 01:25:53.566
- a great deal of research and preparation. The executive side makes this a 24-7

01:25:53.666 --> 01:26:04.776
- position and so we must make decisions with deliberation and sometimes quickly we operate with an extremely

01:26:04.776 --> 01:26:15.474
- small yet dedicated staff and so we fully manage numerous administrative tasks and I think that, sorry,

01:26:15.474 --> 01:26:22.366
- just lost my, one second, sorry, I would just say with pay equity,

01:26:22.530 --> 01:26:34.176
- This issue will finally be closed, and I leave it to the Council's discretion. I'm so sorry. Thank you,

01:26:34.176 --> 01:26:45.823
- Commissioner Madeira, for your statement. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay. All right, Commissioner

01:26:45.823 --> 01:26:51.198
- Madeira is muted. Council, do you have any more

01:26:51.362 --> 01:26:55.966
- questions or comments regarding the ordinance for elected officials.

01:26:57.218 --> 01:27:02.749
- Oh, Mr. Henry. Thank you, Mr. President. I know council member and Madam President Crossley is not with

01:27:02.749 --> 01:27:08.068
- us this evening, but I think someone should put into the room again her comments that got us to the

01:27:08.068 --> 01:27:13.386
- COLA, which was thanking the commissioners for their flexibility in the use of the edits to be able

01:27:13.386 --> 01:27:18.864
- to deliver that this year for our community. And so I want to thank the board for considering that and

01:27:18.864 --> 01:27:24.608
- helping us work through that process so we could do what we could do there. I also want to say I appreciate

01:27:24.608 --> 01:27:25.406
- this council's

01:27:26.146 --> 01:27:31.458
- strategic pause, if you will, on questions of step and longevity, which are going to take a

01:27:31.458 --> 01:27:37.232
- longer conversation than a month to try to figure out when we're in budget season. But I think when

01:27:37.232 --> 01:27:43.179
- we get questions and comments like Commissioner Medeiros, which I do appreciate, it means that we need

01:27:43.179 --> 01:27:49.241
- a much longer runway of public dialogue about what it is to compensate folks in the county. For example,

01:27:49.241 --> 01:27:55.073
- I appreciate the comment about the board of commissioners and their dual-hattedness. I think there's

01:27:55.073 --> 01:27:56.112
- a part of Indiana

01:27:56.112 --> 01:28:01.066
- code that's a little antiquated where one body suggests a cola and the other one, the fiscal body, has

01:28:01.066 --> 01:28:06.308
- to decide it. I think that goes back about 100 years from my read in terms of the split of the commissioners

01:28:06.308 --> 01:28:11.214
- from not having fiscal responsibilities, but neither here nor there. My view on that is that if we're

01:28:11.214 --> 01:28:16.312
- going to look at that for real, we'd have to look at the counties in Indiana that also employ a full-time

01:28:16.312 --> 01:28:19.486
- county administrator. Now, I know in our county we don't call our

01:28:19.810 --> 01:28:25.446
- commissioner's administrator or county administrator, but statutorily they deliver that service. And

01:28:25.446 --> 01:28:31.026
- not every Indiana county has a full-time executive and a six-figure salary and a full-time board of

01:28:31.026 --> 01:28:36.607
- commissioners. And so if we're gonna really do that class and compensation, working with HR and our

01:28:36.607 --> 01:28:42.298
- WIS even, that's gonna be a much longer conversation than a two or three budget hearing conversation.

01:28:42.298 --> 01:28:47.879
- So I'm open to it. I think that that would be a interesting exploration in county government to put

01:28:47.879 --> 01:28:49.776
- it all on the table on what it is

01:28:49.776 --> 01:28:56.093
- to have a executive office and fund positions in that office. But I've been very hard pressed to find

01:28:56.093 --> 01:29:02.658
- a majority of counties that employ both full-time commissioners and a full-time administrator. But that's

01:29:02.658 --> 01:29:09.037
- just my off-the-cuff remark on that. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. Henry. Are there others?

01:29:09.037 --> 01:29:15.478
- Yes, Mr. Deckard. I appreciate very much the grid that we currently have. And I remember when Councilor

01:29:15.478 --> 01:29:17.150
- Wilts worked with Michelle

01:29:17.346 --> 01:29:25.111
- and everyone they could to get that grid. It has eliminated many, many headaches. It's eliminated a

01:29:25.111 --> 01:29:33.186
- lot of, I think, unnecessary discussion around things that really is not a pain point or a crying point

01:29:33.186 --> 01:29:40.950
- or even a concern for the public, and that is why elected officials get paid. I think there's a lot

01:29:40.950 --> 01:29:42.814
- of folks out there that

01:29:43.426 --> 01:29:51.087
- are a little bit more concerned with what they get paid, what they get to keep and what we're doing

01:29:51.087 --> 01:29:58.748
- to make life easier for them. I also like the notion on here that the way that this grid is set up,

01:29:58.748 --> 01:30:06.792
- it appropriates or it designates elected officials by what they do. And it also shows an access by which

01:30:06.792 --> 01:30:11.006
- citizens can take part in this as an elected official.

01:30:11.106 --> 01:30:18.086
- also have other activities outside of the building, but serve as they can ably from where they're at.

01:30:18.086 --> 01:30:25.272
- I mean, tonight we hear a commissioner who's out in the field under a lot of duress. Commissioner Madera

01:30:25.272 --> 01:30:32.389
- doing her job, going about her life, engaging that and then returning back to life. And also eventually

01:30:32.389 --> 01:30:39.438
- at some point, probably tomorrow, returning back to a profession outside of this building. And I think

01:30:39.438 --> 01:30:40.670
- there's a healthy

01:30:40.866 --> 01:30:48.367
- balance with what Councilor Wilts brought when she sat in Councilor Iverson C and really got this kind

01:30:48.367 --> 01:30:55.795
- of nailed out. And so for me, I don't spend a lot of time thinking about what elected officials make,

01:30:55.795 --> 01:31:03.077
- and sometimes that makes other elected officials mad, but I just, from the public, the thing I hear

01:31:03.077 --> 01:31:08.830
- over and over is they want us to serve and they don't want to hear a lot about

01:31:09.282 --> 01:31:18.949
- how painful that service might be. That might be right, it might be wrong, it just is, and I think it's

01:31:18.949 --> 01:31:28.245
- part of it. Thank you, Mr. Deckard. Any other comments or questions from council? All right. Now it

01:31:28.245 --> 01:31:37.726
- is time for myself to read ordinance 2026-38B, the 2027 salary ordinance for Monroe County employees.

01:31:38.050 --> 01:31:43.283
- uh... whereas the indiana legislature adopted indiana code thirty six dash two dash three at sec which

01:31:43.283 --> 01:31:48.517
- established the mineral county council as the governing fiscal body mineral county and whereas indiana

01:31:48.517 --> 01:31:53.649
- code thirty six dash two dash five dash three grants the mineral county council the power to one fix

01:31:53.649 --> 01:31:58.730
- the number of officers deputies and other employees to describe and classify positions and services

01:31:58.730 --> 01:32:01.118
- three adopt schedules of compensation and four

01:32:01.186 --> 01:32:06.206
- hire or contract with persons to assist in the development of schedules of compensation. Whereas the

01:32:06.206 --> 01:32:10.430
- Monroe County Council wishes to establish salary schedule and compensation policies.

01:32:10.530 --> 01:32:16.785
- be it ordained by the Mineral County Council of Indiana that this ordinance affixes the number and salary

01:32:16.785 --> 01:32:23.159
- of employees of the county from the period of January 1, 2027 to December 31, 2027, including all officers,

01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:29.119
- deputies, assistants, and other employees whose salary is comprised of funds payable from any county

01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:32.542
- fund or budget as provided by Indiana code 36-2-5 at SEC.

01:32:32.930 --> 01:32:38.091
- This salary is limited by the following lines and maximum levels of salary shown on the salary grids.

01:32:38.091 --> 01:32:43.455
- All payments made pursuant to this ordinance are contingent upon the strict compliance with and adherence

01:32:43.455 --> 01:32:48.819
- to the benefit salary fiscally related and state and federally mandated requirements of the Monroe County

01:32:48.819 --> 01:32:53.879
- personnel policy handbook. It is the intent of the county council that this language will encourage

01:32:53.879 --> 01:32:58.686
- compliance with personnel policies which may have a fiscal impact on Monroe County government.

01:32:58.786 --> 01:33:03.306
- Any Monroe County employee, including those employees under a contractual agreement or whose salaries

01:33:03.306 --> 01:33:07.825
- are determined by the state prescribed rule order guideline or mandate shall not receive compensation

01:33:07.825 --> 01:33:12.389
- above the salary grids outlined within this ordinance. The county auditor shall not issue pay warrants

01:33:12.389 --> 01:33:16.908
- for any payment that exceeds the authorized amount specified in the salary ordinance. The salary, the

01:33:16.908 --> 01:33:21.384
- annual salary amounts are listed as approximate annual appropriation amounts. The calculation of the

01:33:21.384 --> 01:33:25.726
- annual appropriation amount may result in a slight variation and will not be adjusted a year end.

01:33:26.146 --> 01:33:31.593
- Salaries paid on or after January 1st, 2027 and prior to midnight December 31st, 2027 shall be calculated

01:33:31.593 --> 01:33:36.784
- and paid within the parameters of the salary ordinance and the personnel policy handbook, regardless

01:33:36.784 --> 01:33:41.974
- of when the work is performed. Specifically, the salary ordinance is applicable to dates encompassed

01:33:41.974 --> 01:33:47.113
- within claim one as outlined in the 2027 pay schedule. Monroe County personnel policy handbook. Any

01:33:47.113 --> 01:33:52.766
- item not covered within the salary ordinance shall be covered by the Monroe County personnel policy handbook.

01:33:52.898 --> 01:33:57.996
- job description classification definitions. Beginning calendar year 2022, council approved using the

01:33:57.996 --> 01:34:03.448
- updated classifications and levels for the Monroe County government job descriptions. Salary classification

01:34:03.448 --> 01:34:08.496
- levels have been updated using alphanumeric letters A through E. The listing of all classifications

01:34:08.496 --> 01:34:13.645
- is outlined in Section A of the ordinance notes. Full time hire dates, salary step increase schedule.

01:34:13.645 --> 01:34:18.995
- Employees will attain a new salary step increase level on the first day of the pay period, which includes

01:34:18.995 --> 01:34:21.822
- the anniversary of the most recent full time hire date.

01:34:22.146 --> 01:34:26.517
- The salary steps increase schedule is outlined in Section B of the ordinance notes. The salary step

01:34:26.517 --> 01:34:31.020
- increase level given to other county employees will not be given to jail correctional center employees

01:34:31.020 --> 01:34:33.118
- covered by the collective bargaining agreement.

01:34:33.410 --> 01:34:38.104
- knowledge skills and abilities or KSA salary procedures. Employees who have gone through the review

01:34:38.104 --> 01:34:42.798
- process and approved to receive a knowledge skills and employees KSA status may receive a salary at

01:34:42.798 --> 01:34:47.726
- either the three or eight year level based on the salary grid applicable to the assigned job description

01:34:47.726 --> 01:34:52.467
- classification and level. An approved KSA status will remain with the original requesting department

01:34:52.467 --> 01:34:54.110
- for the determined period of time.

01:34:54.210 --> 01:34:59.328
- departments may request an employee's KSA status be transferred when an applicable position becomes

01:34:59.328 --> 01:35:04.805
- vacant within their department. An employee's KSA status does not automatically transfer with the employee

01:35:04.805 --> 01:35:10.076
- and is subject to review. An employee's approved KSA status only adjusts the salary base rate for that

01:35:10.076 --> 01:35:15.604
- employee. An employee's approved KSA status is not included in the years of service pertaining to longevity

01:35:15.604 --> 01:35:20.773
- and or vacation calculations. A listing of approved KSA hires with term dates is outlined in section

01:35:20.773 --> 01:35:22.974
- C of the ordinance notes. Longevity scale.

01:35:23.202 --> 01:35:28.267
- Employees who have an official hire date and begun work within Monroe County government prior to November

01:35:28.267 --> 01:35:33.045
- 1st, 2023, shall receive a longevity payment for complete and uninterrupted years of service. These

01:35:33.045 --> 01:35:38.205
- payments will continue until either there's a break in the employee service or the employee ends employment

01:35:38.205 --> 01:35:43.127
- within the county. Any employee who has an official hire date and begun work on or after November 1st,

01:35:43.127 --> 01:35:48.287
- 2023, is ineligible to receive longevity payments. To determine longevity, the effective date for longevity

01:35:48.287 --> 01:35:51.966
- and employees most recent full-time hire date of employment with the county.

01:35:52.066 --> 01:35:57.295
- All records must be verified at the Employee Services Department that involved any type of interrupted

01:35:57.295 --> 01:36:02.727
- service. Longevity pay for eligible employees is based on a schedule outline in Section D of the ordinance

01:36:02.727 --> 01:36:07.803
- notes of complete and uninterrupted years of service. A break in service will result in the loss of

01:36:07.803 --> 01:36:13.134
- longevity pay at the very higher date is honored before November 1st, 2023. To be eligible for longevity

01:36:13.134 --> 01:36:18.312
- payout, an employee must still be employed on the day after their anniversary date. Elected officials

01:36:18.312 --> 01:36:20.190
- do not receive county longevity pay.

01:36:20.482 --> 01:36:25.605
- employees whose salaries are determined by a state prescribed rule order guidelines or mandated do not

01:36:25.605 --> 01:36:30.628
- receive county longevity pay probation officers would be an exception to this rule and would receive

01:36:30.628 --> 01:36:36.100
- longevity the annual longevity payment given to other county employees will not be given to jail correctional

01:36:36.100 --> 01:36:41.571
- center employees covered by the collective bargaining agreement as longevity is provided by the consideration

01:36:41.571 --> 01:36:46.694
- of the collective bargaining agreement prior years of service credit beginning January 1st 2017 county

01:36:46.694 --> 01:36:47.390
- government of

01:36:47.650 --> 01:36:52.147
- The County Council approved allowing complete years only of prior years of service per each term of

01:36:52.147 --> 01:36:56.779
- full-time mineral county government employment be applied when calculating the rehire of an employee's

01:36:56.779 --> 01:37:01.321
- salary step increase level. Months of service which are less than one full year shall not be counted

01:37:01.321 --> 01:37:05.863
- nor combined to achieve a complete year of service. For example, an employee who worked for one year

01:37:05.863 --> 01:37:08.606
- and three months shall be credited with one year of service.

01:37:09.090 --> 01:37:13.512
- For probation officers who have transferred to other county positions, the start date for probation

01:37:13.512 --> 01:37:18.068
- salary increases will be governed by the start date certified by the state for the employee's position

01:37:18.068 --> 01:37:22.667
- as a probation officer. For a probation officer who has prior years of service either in other counties

01:37:22.667 --> 01:37:27.355
- or states, they will receive credit for said time as determined by the state for that employee's position

01:37:27.355 --> 01:37:31.866
- as a probation officer. Said start dates and prior years of service will be verified by the probation

01:37:31.866 --> 01:37:36.377
- department, documented in the probation officer's personnel records, and be tracked by both probation

01:37:36.377 --> 01:37:37.438
- and the council office.

01:37:37.538 --> 01:37:42.182
- The Council Administrator and HR Director must verify all prior Monroe County Government service with

01:37:42.182 --> 01:37:47.009
- employee personnel records and or with PERF report before being applied to the returning employee salary.

01:37:47.009 --> 01:37:51.563
- The Council Administrator will notify the elected official and department head if the prior service

01:37:51.563 --> 01:37:53.566
- credit total has been verified and granted.

01:37:54.338 --> 01:37:59.429
- the Council Administrator will maintain a spreadsheet of employees with confirmed prior service credit

01:37:59.429 --> 01:38:04.421
- for future use. Any additional information and or explanation of the Monroe County Government salary

01:38:04.421 --> 01:38:09.858
- schedule and policies is included in this salary ordinance for the purpose of clarification and transparency.

01:38:09.858 --> 01:38:14.998
- See the section ordinance notes. Monroe County Council policy regarding salaries tied to state mandated

01:38:14.998 --> 01:38:19.940
- salaries. Annual salaries for the Monroe County Chief Public Defender, Chief Deputy Public Defender

01:38:19.940 --> 01:38:20.830
- and Monroe County

01:38:20.930 --> 01:38:26.018
- and Monroe Circuit Court Commissioner are all tied in or related to the salaries mandated by the state

01:38:26.018 --> 01:38:31.007
- of Indiana for the Monroe County Circuit Court judges, Monroe County prosecutor and or Monroe County

01:38:31.007 --> 01:38:35.947
- chief public chief deputy prosecutor. The state mandated salaries are amended annually on July 1st.

01:38:35.947 --> 01:38:41.085
- It is the intent and direction of the Monroe County Council that all salaries paid by the Monroe County

01:38:41.085 --> 01:38:46.222
- Council, which are tied in or related to the above mentioned salaries mandated by the state of Indiana,

01:38:46.222 --> 01:38:50.174
- shall be automatically amended at the same time as the state mandated salaries.

01:38:50.658 --> 01:38:56.800
- The Monroe County Council recognizes this, that this is an exception to the general rule for county

01:38:56.800 --> 01:39:03.187
- set salaries, which are generally modified in January 1st. Additional detail, including Defense Service

01:39:03.187 --> 01:39:09.513
- Standards, Section Standard G, Supreme Court Compensation for Information, Indiana Code 33-39-6.5, and

01:39:09.513 --> 01:39:15.102
- Indiana Code 36-2-3-17 are incorporated by reference. Monroe County Youth Services Bureau.

01:39:15.490 --> 01:39:20.763
- Due to the requirements established by Indiana Administrative Code for personnel employees at a child-caring

01:39:20.763 --> 01:39:25.842
- institution, the Binkley House Manager, the prevention coordinator and counselors employed at the Monroe

01:39:25.842 --> 01:39:31.454
- County Youth Services Bureau will be compensated at a minimum of the one-year salary for the PAT-C classifications.

01:39:31.554 --> 01:39:38.012
- This salary level meets the current minimum requirements for exempt employees pursuant to the Fair Labor

01:39:38.012 --> 01:39:44.471
- Standards Act. The starting annual salary level for these positions shall be reviewed annually to ensure

01:39:44.471 --> 01:39:50.621
- ongoing compliance with state and federal law and adjusted when necessary. Presented to the Mineral

01:39:50.621 --> 01:39:57.080
- County Council, read in full for the first time on the sixth day of October, 2026. All right, that being

01:39:57.080 --> 01:39:59.294
- read, do we have any public comment

01:39:59.682 --> 01:40:08.287
- here in the now you hear them, please come to the podium or if you're on teams, raise your hands to

01:40:08.287 --> 01:40:17.236
- talk about staff compensation. Seeing none, let's go to council for questions or comments, please. It's

01:40:17.236 --> 01:40:25.840
- amazing because it appears our county employees are not gonna come here to speak, but they have not

01:40:25.840 --> 01:40:28.766
- been the least bit shy of saying,

01:40:30.178 --> 01:40:38.805
- they're just somewhat disappointed that the council has a hiring freeze and if he about their salary

01:40:38.805 --> 01:40:47.432
- increase, and yet we've got a million to hand out to somebody else. And let me tell you, they're not

01:40:47.432 --> 01:40:56.571
- happy about it. They aren't. So I mean, I know it's going to go through, but I think you have to recognize

01:40:56.571 --> 01:40:59.902
- that the county employees see as being

01:41:00.450 --> 01:41:11.773
- and then they see it going back out the door and they feel like they're having to help pay for that.

01:41:11.773 --> 01:41:22.983
- At here. No doubt because they probably are concerned what their department head might think of it.

01:41:22.983 --> 01:41:29.822
- They do not mind telling you privately if you are willing to

01:41:32.802 --> 01:41:41.196
- I'm gonna go back to teams real quick and make sure no hands are raised back here in the NatU Hill Room.

01:41:41.196 --> 01:41:49.191
- All right. To remind everyone, the budget ordinances and salary ordinance will now be placed on the

01:41:49.191 --> 01:41:57.345
- October 20th agenda for a second reading and a vote. Folks, that's in two weeks. So that's coming up.

01:41:57.345 --> 01:42:01.662
- All right. That concludes our readings of the budgets

01:42:02.050 --> 01:42:12.043
- And next we will move on to item number nine, which is our health department. You're on again, yep.

01:42:12.043 --> 01:42:22.237
- This is item number nine from our health department. Okay, wait a minute. I'm not here. That's right.

01:42:22.237 --> 01:42:32.030
- Gotta get on the right page. Oh yeah, I got it here. I have it, thank you. All right, here we go.

01:42:32.706 --> 01:42:40.945
- Council, I move to open budget 1159 dash 0000 Health Fund and make the following amendments. Reduce

01:42:40.945 --> 01:42:49.514
- account line one zero one one four environmental health specialist foods to zero. Increase account line

01:42:49.514 --> 01:42:58.165
- one zero one one eight public health coordinator to fifty six thousand nine hundred eighty five dollars.

01:42:58.165 --> 01:43:01.790
- Reduce account line one eight zero zero one

01:43:02.306 --> 01:43:21.718
- self-insurance to $360,760, increase account line 18101 FICA to $30,042, increase account line 18201

01:43:21.718 --> 01:43:29.214
- PERF to $53,278, then open budget 1161

01:43:29.378 --> 01:43:38.514
- dash nine six two four local public health services HFI and increase account line one zero one one four

01:43:38.514 --> 01:43:47.914
- environmental health specialist foods to fifty four thousand one hundred forty five dollars reduce account

01:43:47.914 --> 01:43:57.050
- line one zero one eight three public health preparedness director to zero dollars increase account line

01:43:57.050 --> 01:43:59.070
- one eight one zero one

01:43:59.522 --> 01:44:17.338
- FICA to $11,513. Increase account line 18201 perf to $21,369. And then also open budget 1161-9627 local

01:44:17.338 --> 01:44:27.102
- public health services HFI and reduce account line 10118

01:44:27.490 --> 01:44:44.202
- public health coordinator to $0. Reduce account line 18101 FICA to $43,855. Reduce account line 18201

01:44:44.202 --> 01:44:55.998
- PERF to $81,404. Increase account line 20011 other supplies to $17,314.

01:44:56.354 --> 01:45:06.540
- Increase account line 30028, training and travel to $50,040. Hearing a motion and a second, we are joined

01:45:06.540 --> 01:45:16.534
- by Dr. Sarah Ryderband, Mr. Eric Gauss, and I'm sorry, could you please state your name for the record?

01:45:16.534 --> 01:45:24.606
- Linnea Amy. Thank you, Ms. Amy. What do we have before us, folks? Well, in essence,

01:45:25.346 --> 01:45:36.090
- Ms. Amy is the preparedness coordinator. And as you've met Eric Gause before, you know that he is our

01:45:36.090 --> 01:45:46.835
- financial manager. The issue is essentially that preparedness, while we initially put it into the HFI

01:45:46.835 --> 01:45:55.262
- funding, we really cannot do preparedness through HFI funding because it limits

01:45:55.714 --> 01:46:05.447
- who we can deal with in an emergency. And Ms. Amy would be happy to talk to you about that. But we thought

01:46:05.447 --> 01:46:14.544
- that with the federal guidelines for treating anyone in an emergency, we could manage it. But after

01:46:14.544 --> 01:46:23.823
- speaking with legal, we found that, no, we are still under state statute. And so we are stuck. And so

01:46:23.823 --> 01:46:25.278
- we've moved it.

01:46:25.506 --> 01:46:33.484
- back into local funding. OK, anything else to add from either of you two? And when you're talking, the

01:46:33.484 --> 01:46:41.152
- mic is close to your mouth as you can, please. It'll just pop on. Yeah, sure. Just very basically,

01:46:41.152 --> 01:46:49.982
- you know, the legislative requirements for Health First Indiana funding require that the funds be spent on people

01:46:50.114 --> 01:46:56.990
- who are residents of the state of Indiana and lawfully present. What that does is create a burden of

01:46:56.990 --> 01:47:04.071
- having to check people's eligibility before we can provide them services. In many cases, that is doable

01:47:04.071 --> 01:47:10.948
- if inconvenient. In the event of emergency response, it is prohibitive. It also sort of flies in the

01:47:10.948 --> 01:47:16.190
- face of the notion that emergency response should be universally accessible.

01:47:17.026 --> 01:47:25.280
- We do have at least two grants that fund our work, the FUP grant, the preparedness grant, and the MRC

01:47:25.280 --> 01:47:33.939
- grant, which are both federal dollars and under federal guidelines, which do require that we intentionally

01:47:33.939 --> 01:47:41.950
- serve otherwise underserved populations, including low English proficiency, children, the elderly,

01:47:42.146 --> 01:47:48.981
- things like that, and requires also that we not obviously discriminate on the basis of national origin,

01:47:48.981 --> 01:47:55.553
- which could get complex. So for simplicity, we are moving those funds back to where they came from.

01:47:55.553 --> 01:48:02.190
- Thank you. Anything final notes to add? No, I think she's covered most of it. All right. Council, we

01:48:02.190 --> 01:48:09.091
- do have a handy dandy sheet here that numerically represents what was read in the motion. And I'll start

01:48:09.091 --> 01:48:10.142
- with Mr. Henry.

01:48:10.402 --> 01:48:16.833
- Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you for coming in. I said, Dr. Ryderban, you missed it earlier, but

01:48:16.833 --> 01:48:23.458
- I thank Derek for being here earlier with our overall discussion of the county budgets. I, Linnea, I'm

01:48:23.458 --> 01:48:29.953
- sorry on behalf of some government. It's not my apology to give. I cannot believe a year later we're

01:48:29.953 --> 01:48:35.870
- still in this space of picking and choosing who we help in disasters based on state policy.

01:48:36.162 --> 01:48:42.017
- I'm going to get on my soap box a little, sorry. I teach emergency management at IU. I've been in this

01:48:42.017 --> 01:48:47.758
- space for a long time. I worked at NACCHO for a bit and had the MRC program that went out across the

01:48:47.758 --> 01:48:53.499
- country, among other places. And what I teach in my class is pretty simple. There are no such things

01:48:53.499 --> 01:48:59.411
- as natural disasters. We have hazards. But disasters are caused by policy. And we are setting ourselves

01:48:59.411 --> 01:49:03.390
- up for, the state has set us up for failure in this case, where we've

01:49:03.522 --> 01:49:09.154
- put ourselves in a place where we have to ask for papers, please, before we help somebody in a time

01:49:09.154 --> 01:49:14.899
- of crisis. I cannot understand what that would look like if we actually had a COVID level incident in

01:49:14.899 --> 01:49:20.531
- the county again. It's fortunate we have some federal dollars that let us override what is going to

01:49:20.531 --> 01:49:26.670
- prove out to be a disastrous state policy when the next thing happens. And it is when. I know, Dr. Ryderman,

01:49:26.670 --> 01:49:32.190
- you talked about how contagion doesn't care about county borders or state borders or nationality.

01:49:32.290 --> 01:49:38.873
- And now we're asked to take that on as a local burden because of what can only be described as discriminatory

01:49:38.873 --> 01:49:44.978
- policy at the state level. And I it's it's it's kind of, you know, I won't be I'll be shocked and not

01:49:44.978 --> 01:49:51.082
- surprised. I guess that's the way to put it. And when this when it eventually happens, but we've been

01:49:51.082 --> 01:49:57.187
- putting a pickle here, it's not good. And I hope that crystal ball doesn't come true where we have to

01:49:57.187 --> 01:49:59.102
- try to figure that out based on

01:49:59.842 --> 01:50:07.022
- whether or not you reside in the state or not when a crisis happens. Thank you, Mr. President.

01:50:07.022 --> 01:50:14.806
- Thank you, Mr. Henry. Are there other council members? Yes, Councilmember Wilts. Yeah, I mean. Echoing

01:50:14.806 --> 01:50:22.439
- all of that sympathy and undercurrent of outrage, perhaps. But I do also recall talking about this a

01:50:22.439 --> 01:50:29.694
- year ago with respect to a lot of the different positions and a lot of your different services.

01:50:29.954 --> 01:50:38.856
- My recollection is that the way we resolved some of the concerns was to split how we were paying folks.

01:50:38.856 --> 01:50:47.587
- So we paid them a little bit out of this and a little bit out of that so that they had cover to serve

01:50:47.587 --> 01:50:56.404
- different, well, to serve everybody. And A, is that still the way things were set up? I guess I should

01:50:56.404 --> 01:50:59.742
- have paid more attention. B, what? No.

01:51:00.354 --> 01:51:08.956
- When they approved the budget last year, the administrator chose not to split the pay. So the person

01:51:08.956 --> 01:51:17.643
- or the position, it was full time within that fund. It was never split. But that position, but I mean

01:51:17.643 --> 01:51:26.842
- the other ones. All of them. I can answer it. Yeah, sure. So what we've done is basically we have positions

01:51:26.842 --> 01:51:30.078
- that are from the 1159 fund that will

01:51:30.178 --> 01:51:38.081
- allow those positions to work with the full public with no issues as far as, as requirements go.

01:51:38.081 --> 01:51:46.310
- So we've, we have our senior positions as far as environmental are all paid through, um, either 1159

01:51:46.310 --> 01:51:54.539
- or the health maintenance fund. Uh, we also have one vital records position that this year has, has,

01:51:54.539 --> 01:51:59.998
- uh, simplified, well, not simplified, but helped as far as waiting

01:52:00.354 --> 01:52:08.959
- are serving those individuals that under HFI we wouldn't be able to serve. So we've moved, we've got

01:52:08.959 --> 01:52:17.649
- the positions moved back and forth. The difficulty obviously is with the regulatory and HFI trying to

01:52:17.649 --> 01:52:26.510
- balance that with our limitation as far as how much we can spend on regulatory and having the positions

01:52:26.510 --> 01:52:29.662
- back and forth. So at this juncture,

01:52:30.402 --> 01:52:39.097
- We seem to have everything covered as far as besides the preparedness positions as far as giving us

01:52:39.097 --> 01:52:48.402
- allowing us to serve the public. So instead of splitting positions, you take positions within a department

01:52:48.402 --> 01:52:57.358
- or a service area and split those people essentially between the two funds. Yeah. All right. Any other

01:52:57.358 --> 01:52:59.358
- comments or questions?

01:53:00.578 --> 01:53:08.639
- I will just say as liaison, co liaison to your department, I wish for a year of stability for you. I

01:53:08.639 --> 01:53:16.780
- know that the budget that we are going to adopt in two weeks is going to have your budgets in it. And

01:53:16.780 --> 01:53:24.762
- my sincere hope is that these changes and the budget that we have is gonna allow you to provide the

01:53:24.762 --> 01:53:29.950
- best quality of public health to the residents of Monroe County,

01:53:30.050 --> 01:53:40.226
- uninhibited and to the maximum level that you can and then we can just build from there. So I'm happy

01:53:40.226 --> 01:53:50.502
- to vote for this and really just get out of your hair. Yeah. All right. We have a motion and a second.

01:53:50.502 --> 01:53:58.782
- Could we please have a roll call vote? Councillor Decker. Yes. Councillor Iverson.

01:54:00.610 --> 01:54:10.286
- Councillor Haug? Yes. Councillor Wilts? Yes. Councillor Henry? Yes. Motion passes unanimous.

01:54:10.286 --> 01:54:21.211
- I said yes. Oh, I thought you said yes. Pardon me. Motion passes 5-0, one pass. Thank you, Dr. Ryderman.

01:54:21.211 --> 01:54:27.038
- Thank you, Mr. Goussen. Thank you, Ms. Nami. Thank you.

01:54:29.922 --> 01:54:38.730
- All right, next we'll move on to the very last item on this agenda. Well, this last substantive item.

01:54:38.730 --> 01:54:47.710
- This is the amendment that we made. I'll read again. Thank you. Council, I move to open fund 1176-0000.

01:54:47.874 --> 01:54:56.391
- excuse me, motor vehicle highway and make the following amendments. Reduce account line 15117, interim

01:54:56.391 --> 01:55:04.661
- transition position to zero and add account line 16800, transitional temporary training with $1.00.

01:55:04.661 --> 01:55:13.426
- Second. We have a motion and a second. And do we have someone here from highway that can walk us through?

01:55:13.426 --> 01:55:17.726
- I'm going to do that for them. Thank you, Michelle.

01:55:18.146 --> 01:55:26.588
- As I was preparing the salary ordinance and I was making the adjustments, I noticed that they had budgeted

01:55:26.588 --> 01:55:34.477
- line 15117, which is an interim transition position. That line is used for positions that are going

01:55:34.477 --> 01:55:42.367
- to be there several months at a time. So after speaking with Lisa Ridge, the highway director, what

01:55:42.367 --> 01:55:48.126
- they're actually needing for the beginning of the year is a transitional

01:55:48.418 --> 01:55:55.889
- temporary training line. So that's why we're making that edit. She only wants a dollar because it's

01:55:55.889 --> 01:56:03.360
- all going to depend on when they get that person in and when that line will be utilized. Thank you.

01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:11.130
- Councilmembers, do you have any questions or comments about this $1 item? This is a very council thing.

01:56:11.130 --> 01:56:17.182
- We deal with millions and millions of dollars and then the very last item is $1.

01:56:17.666 --> 01:56:26.050
- All right. Is there any public comment on this item? Seeing none, can we please have a roll call vote?

01:56:26.050 --> 01:56:34.433
- Councillor Iverson? Yes. Councillor Feidl? Yes. Councillor Hug? Yes. Councillor Wilts? Yes. Councillor

01:56:34.433 --> 01:56:42.573
- Henry? Yes. Councillor Decker? Yes. Motion passes unanimous. All right. That brings us to the other

01:56:42.573 --> 01:56:47.294
- items and Council Member Wilts, do you have another item?

01:56:48.354 --> 01:56:57.774
- I might. I was reviewing the supplemental information that we were given for the health department budgets.

01:56:57.774 --> 01:57:06.670
- And it, Councilor Feidl is double checking, but I didn't hear the reading of the last fund. It wasn't

01:57:06.670 --> 01:57:14.782
- on the. No, it wasn't. And that's because they're going to come back at a later date because

01:57:15.042 --> 01:57:21.239
- They have to have additional appropriations to go along with that because it's a grant. So they have

01:57:21.239 --> 01:57:27.436
- to come back. They have to advertise that and then prepare. Got it. So they they weren't going to do

01:57:27.436 --> 01:57:33.818
- anything until they knew you guys were going to, you know, move forward with these changes. I'm telling

01:57:33.818 --> 01:57:40.076
- you, nothing gets past the left side of this bench. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. And it's like

01:57:40.076 --> 01:57:44.126
- something for a man to take the credit of two women. There we go.

01:57:45.954 --> 01:57:59.504
- We are at the end here and I will just make another plea to folks. We are going to be in this room for

01:57:59.504 --> 01:58:08.318
- the next two weeks. I'm going home. We will be coming back to this

01:58:08.418 --> 01:58:16.425
- room one week from tonight at 5 p.m. for a regular business meeting and then the very next week on the

01:58:16.425 --> 01:58:24.199
- 20th we will be back in this room at 5 p.m. for budget adoption so also be back on October the 27th

01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:32.129
- for a regular council meeting so you're hitting all four Tuesdays and you know it is what we're at it

01:58:32.129 --> 01:58:38.270
- October 23rd at noon is the next must meeting so there's a lot of one it is at

01:58:38.434 --> 01:58:45.650
- One or noon? One. One o'clock. I'm on the left side here. They're really catching all this stuff. So

01:58:45.650 --> 01:58:53.010
- there's a lot of ways to be engaged with the fiscal business of this body, both the short term and the

01:58:53.010 --> 01:58:58.654
- long term. So stay attention. Thank you folks for recording. We are adjourned.
