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-  >> All right. We're going to go ahead and get this meeting started. Today is Tuesday,

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-  March 25th, 2025. We're coming to you from the NatU Hill meeting room and Teams Connection.

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-  I will note for the record that we have Councilmember Wilz, Councilmember Henry, Councilmember Pfeidl,

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-  Councilmember Decker, and Councilmember Iverson in the room. I want to express our sincere

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-  well-wishes to Councilmember Crossley, who is at home with sickness. So, yes?

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-  >> It appears that Councilor Hock is virtual. >> Okay. Welcome, Councilmember Hock, online.

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-  And again, I just want to make sure that your video is working for voting purposes. Let's

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-  start today with a Pledge of Allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

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-  States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible,

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-  with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you, Council. Today's agenda can

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-  be found on the events calendar, and I'll ask Council if you have any changes to today's

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-  agenda or updates. Councilmember Wilz? >> I was wondering if perhaps we could pull

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-  item B from the consent agenda out to be its own item just so that we could discuss it.

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-  If we can discuss it anyway and it doesn't make any difference, then I'm fine with that.

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-  I just, you know, I'm interested in hearing a little bit more either from the liaison

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-  or if the surveyors here. It just, it seemed more interesting than a consent agenda item

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-  to me. >> Sure. Okay.

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-  >> Remind me which one you're talking about. >> B, it's from the surveyors office, so it's

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-  6B. >> Because there's several Bs here.

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-  >> 6B. >> 6B. Now I know which one it is.

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-  >> Councilmember Wilz, are you comfortable when we get to the consent agenda items and

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-  we open it up for the conversation that we discussed it?

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-  >> That's perfect. >> Excellent.

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-  >> Thank you. >> Are there any other changes to today's

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-  agenda? Seeing none, we will go ahead and adopt that with, we need to do a roll call

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-  vote, right? >> There's no changes to the agenda.

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-  >> We can adopt it as is. >> You can just voice vote the adoption of

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-  the agenda. >> All those in favor, please say aye.

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-  >> Aye. >> All those opposed? The ayes have it unanimously.

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-  >> All right. Let's move on to public comments. If you would like to make public comments

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-  for an item not on the agenda, please come up to the podium or raise your hand on Teams

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-  and we will recognize you for your public comment. And as always, there will be a brief time

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-  limit on your comments, and we'll go ahead and start here in the NatU Hill Room. Welcome.

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-  >> All right. Good afternoon, evening. My name is Jen Pearl. I'm president of the Bloomington

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-  Economic Development Corporation. We're a nonprofit that serves all of Monroe County

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-  in attracting and growing quality jobs and wages for the community. I am here because

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-  we are trying to spread the word about the many opportunities that are available in Monroe

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-  County right now. We recently did a snapshot among a number of our largest employers, and

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-  there are literally hundreds of jobs that are open in Monroe County. We know that graduation

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-  season is coming up on us, and others might be in job transitions, so we wanted everyone

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-  to be aware of what's out there. Folks can find the article that we published in the

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-  Herald Times. It's also available through the LinkedIn page for the Bloomington Economic

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-  Development Corporation. And just briefly, our driving industries that have opportunities

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-  include healthcare and life sciences, education are really leading the way on job openings.

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-  We also have opportunities in advanced manufacturing, tech, and there are always opportunities in

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-  small business growth as well as defense. The article that we have talks about ways

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-  that you can find these listings and find the employers that are in our community. And

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-  we would also ask that folks visit our LinkedIn page, find that article, and share it with

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-  others as well, because we want to make sure that we're really retaining and promoting

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-  great talent for our community. Also, this is a special thank you to the County Council

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-  because many of the employers that are listed in here are employers that you've supported

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-  in recent years as they've worked to expand, such as Syntra, such as Phoenix, and others

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-  across the community. Everyone in the room, you all have copies of this in front of you,

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-  but I can also share the links for you to share as well. So thank you and tell your

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-  friends to come work in Monroe County. Thank you, Ms. Pearl. Thank you, Jen. Are there

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-  any other public comments? Again, looking to the podium here in that you Hill or people

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-  raising their hands on teams? Seeing none, let's move on to department updates. Are there

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-  department heads here in the net you Hill room or online that wish to offer a department

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-  update? Seeing none, we will move on with our agenda for item number six. This is where

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-  I go, right? That is correct. Perfect. This is my first time at this. Bear with me. Council,

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-  I move to approve the following consent agenda items for March 25th at the February 25th

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-  meeting summary minutes, the February 27th joint meeting of the Monroe County Board of

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-  Commissioners and County Council and the March 11th executive session of the County Council

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-  and the surveyors request in the fund 1202-0000 surveyors corner perpetuation fund to create

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-  account line 38002 ATLP higher ed and longevity. Second. All right. We have a motion and a

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-  second. Thank you so much for reading that. Councilmember pilot do a great job. Does council

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-  have any comments or questions? Yes. I would just like to know a little bit more about

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-  the item B and the program that that he the surveyor is utilizing and I don't know if

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-  the surveyors even here since this was put on consent agenda. Oh, yeah. John, are you

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-  there? All right, Mr. and right Randolph, we see your hand raised. Mr. President, is

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-  that taking this point of order? Are we taking a motion to divide the question out of consent

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-  agenda and then move it to discuss it? Or how would you like to proceed? At this point,

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-  I think I'm comfortable with having a conversation about this this agenda item. And if we need

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-  to take more concerted action, then I'll entertain a motion to separate it. Yes. Is there a way

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-  you could please promote? I might be live. There you are. Yeah. And my Internet said

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-  I had poor connectivity. So the reason to create this line is to kind of track the dollars

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-  going into it that will be coming from the corner perpetuation line. We had a training

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-  line in the corner perpetuation budget. But I think this is kind of a little outside of

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-  it. So this will be a good tool to kind of track that. I actually intended to come and

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-  give a presentation about the program itself. And I could kind of go into that. I actually

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-  even put a presentation together. Since I am not at the office, I don't have access

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-  to that document, that PowerPoint. But I would be more than happy to come back and give you

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-  kind of a not just a presentation on the program, but also how that relates to our perpetuation

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-  efforts. And, you know, I could kind of keep it tight around, you know, five to six minutes.

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-  But I think it's a great way to show you what we're up to. And I'd be more than happy to

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-  do this. This was just kind of something that was recommended to do to kind of set some

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-  best practices. And, you know, unfortunately, I just kind of was trying to move this along

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-  since we have the program in place, but I'm more than happy to come back and give you

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-  a full presentation. If you want to approve it today or hold off, I'd leave that to your

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-  discretion. But in a nutshell, it's investing in our employees for further education, and

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-  it's a great opportunity. Marion County had established the program originally, and so

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-  I'm kind of following off of their template, and it allows our survey technician to get

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-  further education that eventually could go into getting their license, which really helps

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-  our office with, you know, kind of streamlining our workflow, maximizing our time. Regardless,

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-  if we had to do the research or not, we would have to take that time. So all that time spent

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-  doing that research actually can be an incentive to our employees. So I think it just has a

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-  great outcome. All right, thank you so much. Councilmember Wilts.

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-  Thank you for that explanation. I think it's great from, you know, by all accounts, looking

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-  at the description, I'm totally in support of anything that can help the folks who work

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-  for the county pursue their education. It looks like it's an associate's degree in surveying

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-  technology and the help program supports this. Where is that housed? What is it? Where's

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-  the degree coming from? Well, there's an outline. Let me grab my folder. I'm not completely

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-  unprepared. I just don't have access to the end drive with the PowerPoint. So there's

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-  a reimbursement agreement. So basically, after they complete everything, they agree to stay

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-  with the county for two years. And then there's a sliding scale of that reimbursement program.

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-  So basically, after the completion of their last class, they stay with the county for

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-  two years. If they don't complete it, then they have to go through the reimbursement.

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-  That was put together by me and legal Mr. Schilling. And then there's an outline of

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-  the program itself. And this is focused on Vinson's University. It's a hybrid virtual

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-  program. And since the survey technician already has a degree, a lot of it was able to transfer

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-  over. In the state of Indiana, there's a big need for professional surveyors. So another

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-  couple benefits is that they're going to learn the profession. And if there's the opportunity

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-  for them to practice, they're going to really know how the surveying was conducted in Monroe

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-  County and how that relates to our perpetuation efforts. They're not completely different

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-  from county to county, but there is somewhat of a way to identify when they're working

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-  in that local area, which would be a multi-county jurisdiction, if you will. They practice surveying

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-  a bit different in other areas. Okay. Thank you. All right. We have a motion

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-  and a second. Are there any other council comments or questions on today's consent agenda

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-  items? Seeing none, we'll go to the public. If you have any questions or comments on the

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-  consent agenda items, raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, we'll

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-  take a roll call vote because we have a member on zoom or teams.

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-  Councillor Wilz. Yes. Councillor Decker. Yes. Councillor Iverson. Yes. Councillor Hawke.

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-  You're muted. I'm going to go ahead with Councillor Henry. Yes. Councillor Feidl. Yes. And we'll

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-  go back to Councillor Hawke. Yes. My answer is no. It sounded me like we're putting in

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-  place an additional person there in the surveyor's office and and I'm just going to try my best

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-  not to agree to any additional appropriations. Can we clarify that before we. Councillor Hawke,

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-  this is not the addition. I know it isn't it but is it not approving the person placed

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-  within the budget? No. But we have a record of the vote. It's fine. Just put me down as

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-  a no and move forward. Thank you. All right. Motion passes by majority five to one. Excellent.

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-  All right. We will move on to agenda item number seven. And I don't think Ms. Feidl has anything

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-  to read here. So I'm going to recognize members of the Monroe County Civil Air Patrol, particularly

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-  Second Lieutenant Brad Thompson to introduce the group. And I think we've got some materials

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-  here on our desk. It looks like we've got a slide deck ready to go for our enjoyment.

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-  So Second Lieutenant Brad Thompson, the next 15 minutes are all yours. Thank you. I'm just

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-  going to turn it over to our cadets. Thank you, sir.

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-  Good evening, counsel. My name is Cadet Captain Mara Keeta Thompson. I am the deputy commander.

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-  Excuse me. Can you pull your mic a little bit closer? Yeah. Thank you.

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-  I am Cadet Captain Mara Keeta Thompson. I am the deputy commander of operations. And

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-  I'm here with Cadet Second Lieutenant Lydia Parker. I am the cadet commander.

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-  I am Cadet Senior Master Sergeant Zachariah Schmidt. I am the cadet first sergeant.

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-  And here today we are with our squadron, the Monroe County Composite Squadron. And we are

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-  a composite squadron. So we are made of both senior members and cadet members. And cadet

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-  members are students anywhere from 12 years old to 21 years old. If you join before you

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-  are 18, you can stay at cadet until you are 21. But if you join after 18, you have to

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-  join as a senior member. With that being said, we have 30 cadets and 30 senior members in

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-  our squadron. Who we are, Civil Air Patrol is two organizations in one. We are a congressionally

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-  chartered non-profit all of the time and an auxiliary of the Air Force some of the time.

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-  As a part of the total force of the Air Force, Civil Air Patrol can be activated for missions

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-  that meet the operations' call abilities. The total force consists of the Air Force,

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-  the Air National Guard, the Air Force Reserve, and the Civil Air Patrol. Auxiliary missions

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-  of the defense support for civil authorities typically include search and rescue, joint

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-  readiness training, preservation of life and property, and humanitarian relief. Going into

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-  our history, Civil Air Patrol was established in December 1st, 1941 after the United States

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-  was thrust into World War II. Civil Air Patrol was a part of the civilian effort and an all-volunteer

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-  force using privately-owned aircraft in a variety of roles that include patrolling the

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-  Atlantic coast from Maine to Mexico to monitoring and harassing German U-boats and shipping

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-  lanes, searching for survivors of ships that succumb to torpedo attacks or weather, and

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-  training pilots for the military. Franklin Roosevelt, Franklin, President Franklin Roosevelt

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-  transferred Civil Air Patrol from the Office of Civilian Defense to the Department of War,

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-  which later became the Department of Defense. In 1943, Truman established Civil Air Patrol

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-  as the Air Force Civilian Auxiliary on May 26th, 1948. On August 28th, 2015, General

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-  Mark A. Welsh III Civil Air Force Chief of Staff officially announced Civil Air Patrol

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-  as a member of the U.S. Air Force Total Force, joining the Regular Guard and Reserve Force

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-  as American Airmen. And as you can see, we are actually older than the Air Force itself.

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-  I've got my papers mixed up here. Civil Air Patrol is the nation's premier volunteer-driven

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-  aviation-based nonprofit, which can be summed up in our mission statement, which is Volunteers

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-  Serving America's Communities, Saving Lives and Shaping Futures. We have around 70,000

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-  volunteers that are all volunteers, with 36,000 being adults and 32,000 being youth cadets.

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-  Aviation-based, we operate the world's largest American fleet of 555 single-engine aircraft,

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-  operating more than 2,200 drones and operating high-tech aerial imaging capabilities used

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-  for damage assessment. And we are tasked with three missions from the Air Force, which are

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-  Aerospace Education, Youth Program, and Emergency Services, which these two will go into more.

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-  So our first mission, which is Aerospace Education, we provide aerospace education to both cadets

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-  and the community. We can provide classrooms with support and free STEM kits to teachers

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-  and other educators. And of course, aligning to national academic standards, AE offers

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-  more than 40 educational products consisting of hundreds of lesson plans that span through

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-  pre-K through grade 12. AE also offers 21 different STEM kits for ages 4 and up, textbooks,

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-  and activity books for the youngest learners. We also have with Civil Air Patrol Aerospace

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-  Education members or AEMs. AEMs can be teachers, homeschoolers, scout leaders, anyone that

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-  teaches STEM. They can join for $35 a year flat rate. AEMs can get free STEM kits for

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-  use in their classrooms as well as free TOP or teacher orientation flight program flights,

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-  a ride in a Civil Air Patrol aircraft in which they can take control of the aircraft and

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-  fly it themselves. So if you know an educator, let them know about our program. Pictured

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-  on the slide is a science teacher and robotics leader at Bloomington High School North who

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-  had just completed her teacher orientation flight last year. With Aerospace Education,

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-  our cadets learn about weather, physics, mechanics, aerodynamics, other STEM items related to

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-  aviation including building model rockets, getting to fly drones and fly aircraft on

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-  orientation flights, which as part of Aerospace Education, cadets receive five powered orientation

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-  flights in a Civil Air Patrol aircraft, getting to have their hands on the controls flying

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-  the airplane themselves. Turn it over to Lieutenant Parker.

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-  Our second mission is the cadet program. There are many ways youth can choose to spend their

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-  free time such as sports, band, scouts, video games, etc. CAP is unlike any other service

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-  organization out there. CAP is based on a military type organization so we achieve rank

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-  by taking specific tests such as physical training tests, knowledge tests and aerospace

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-  tests and also participating actively in our program. The aviation component in the cadet

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-  program, every cadet gets up to five orientation rides before they turn 18. CAP can help with

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-  college and military academy placement. About 10% of military academy cadets are CAP cadets.

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-  It also allows cadets to enter the military with a higher rank but we are not a recruiter.

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-  Cadets have no obligation to join any branch of military. We provide an opportunity to

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-  serve alongside family for a shared experience and can help bring families together. Cadets

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-  can also participate in emergency services and be involved with search and rescue, ground

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-  teams, communications and air crews. Other things that cadets can take advantage of are

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-  our summer camps. This is the first summer camp that cadets must attend to be eligible

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-  to go to. I don't want to say more impressive but sometimes are more fun camps. It is kind

00:22:26.360 --> 00:22:31.320
-  of like basic training for kids but it's also a lot of fun. It is called encampment. This

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-  was at Camp Atterbury. It has since moved but the one pictured here was at Camp Atterbury

00:22:36.600 --> 00:22:41.640
-  where cadets built and launched model rockets, went flying and rappelling, learned drill

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-  and participated in physical training. Also available to cadets are unique special activities

00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:53.560
-  called NCSAs or National Cadet Special Activities such as mountain rescue in Colorado, honor

00:22:53.560 --> 00:23:00.440
-  guard, flight training all over the states, civil leadership academy and computer networking,

00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:09.600
-  cyber security taught by the Air Force and others. Pictured on this slide is us, so next

00:23:09.600 --> 00:23:16.920
-  slide. So pictured here is us helping with Rees Across America because a big part of

00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:21.800
-  Civil Air Patrol is the volunteer service. Every year we help place Rees and post the

00:23:21.800 --> 00:23:30.960
-  colors. And next slide. This is us helping at the 279 Food Pantry a couple years ago

00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:39.640
-  near Thanksgiving. And then the next one is us helping Kiwanis Club with the Balloon Fest.

00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:45.480
-  We helped launch and recover the balloons and helped with parking and other jobs. And

00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:50.840
-  then this is me receiving my Mitchell Award from the mayor. The Mitchell Award is the

00:23:50.840 --> 00:23:56.920
-  second milestone in the program. It is also the biggest milestone. It is the pivot point

00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:03.180
-  from NCO to officer and not only do we get to have all the opportunities to come to officers,

00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:08.920
-  we also if we want to enter the Air Force we would join as an E3 which is a higher pay

00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:21.480
-  and higher rank. Also available to us are aerospace education scholarships.

00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:26.120
-  With the picture on the right that you've seen previously, I was on our nation's capital

00:24:26.120 --> 00:24:31.440
-  about ready to talk to our two senators about our budget request and just kind of letting

00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:35.440
-  them know what Civil Air Patrol is getting our name out there and being able to meet

00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:39.760
-  with our federal government. Later on that week I was actually able to speak with my

00:24:39.760 --> 00:24:49.000
-  congresswoman and have a meeting with her giving her our budget request for the year and that

00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:53.560
-  was just an amazing opportunity. I actually was able to go up there for free being able

00:24:53.560 --> 00:24:58.280
-  to tour the capital, different monuments and things like that and just being able to see

00:24:58.280 --> 00:25:10.200
-  how the government worked. It was absolutely amazing, such an amazing program. Our final

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-  and third program of Civil Air Patrol Emergency Services, it's arguably the most important

00:25:17.520 --> 00:25:22.840
-  program of Civil Air Patrol. Civil Air Patrol is who performs 90% of search and rescue missions

00:25:22.840 --> 00:25:28.680
-  in the U.S. Many searches are conducted using proprietary cell phone forensics and radar

00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.760
-  analysis. Advanced search capabilities make CAP an invaluable resource to facilitate searches

00:25:32.760 --> 00:25:38.080
-  for downed aircraft, missing persons, stranded motorists, injured hikers, drift boaters and

00:25:38.080 --> 00:25:42.760
-  much more. Before cell phone forensics and radar analysis searches took hours, days,

00:25:42.760 --> 00:25:48.960
-  even weeks to complete and today in a matter of minutes Civil Air Patrol can help reduce

00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:54.560
-  probable search area with our cell phone location software so rescues and resources are much

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-  quicker even after dark and in bad weather, thereby dramatically increasing survival rate.

00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:06.560
-  Our E.S. teams also respond to a variety of requests from local and state and even federal

00:26:06.560 --> 00:26:12.520
-  agencies post disasters like floods, wildfires, hurricanes, earthquakes and tsunamis. Support

00:26:12.520 --> 00:26:18.720
-  may include search and rescue, point of distribution, aerial imaging for rapid damage assessment,

00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:23.200
-  personal and supply transport, communications networking and much more. We even have our

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:29.600
-  own communications network funded and operated by the Air Force by their equipment and frequencies.

00:26:29.600 --> 00:26:38.640
-  It is secure so we are able to communicate locally or nationally securely. And Civil

00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:44.240
-  Air Patrol was the only non-military aircraft that were allowed to fly after the attacks

00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:50.280
-  on September 11th. Civil Air Patrol is who took most of the pictures of the Twin Towers

00:26:50.280 --> 00:26:57.960
-  disaster site for federal agencies such as DHS or FEMA that were doing damage assessment.

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-  Last year this aircraft was retired and is now on display at the National Museum of the

00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:09.000
-  United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. As a total force partner of the Air Force the

00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:13.680
-  Auxiliary plays an integral role in joint readiness training for the military. You can

00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.800
-  read more about these missions in the packet that you have.

00:27:16.800 --> 00:27:21.160
-  One interesting program is RPP, the Rated Preparatory Program. It's a joint training

00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:25.360
-  initiative that relies on Civil Air Patrol aircraft and personnel with flight instructors

00:27:25.360 --> 00:27:29.880
-  to help Air Force Airmen on their journey to become rated aircrew. The Air Force funded

00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:35.040
-  program provides training for active duty non-flying Air Force personnel with skills

00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:39.860
-  to improve their Airman's pilot candidate selection method score. The RPP candidates

00:27:39.860 --> 00:27:45.920
-  receive more than 40 hours of training with support, discussion, simulator time, and air

00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:51.240
-  and ground training. There are two locations of this training, one in Texas and one just

00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:55.880
-  over in Columbus, Indiana. Some of the senior members from our squadron here in Monroe County

00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:00.800
-  as well as the entirety of Indiana wing help with this program.

00:28:00.800 --> 00:28:07.660
-  CAP is heavily involved in most national disasters such as the California wildfires, the fires

00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:14.860
-  in Hawaii, hurricanes in Florida, flooding across Kentucky and the Carolinas. On the

00:28:14.860 --> 00:28:21.560
-  next slide we have pictured cadets after participating and during participation in the Red Cross

00:28:21.560 --> 00:28:22.260
-  exercise

00:28:22.260 --> 00:28:28.200
-  Operation Safe Harbor in October of 2023. Cadets learned how to use a survey app on

00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:40.500
-  their phone to do damage assessment for emergency management agencies and coordinating resources.

00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:46.260
-  Most recently in last July our squadron here was called to help set up a point of distribution

00:28:46.260 --> 00:28:54.480
-  for water after the heavy storms on June 30th. Local emergency management agencies like the

00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:58.780
-  Monroe County Emergency Management can call the Indiana Department of Homeland Security

00:28:58.780 --> 00:29:04.460
-  and request our help. This help can be volunteers, search and rescue teams, point of distribution

00:29:04.460 --> 00:29:10.660
-  support, damage assessment, airborne photography and emergency communications. The Air Force

00:29:10.660 --> 00:29:14.380
-  purchases and maintains equipment such as the Cessna 182, one of which we have at the

00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:19.220
-  Monroe County Airport. The Air Force trains and coordinates Civil Air Patrol to be a service

00:29:19.220 --> 00:29:24.640
-  to you and other communities. We are an all-volunteer organization. The assets of CAP are all free

00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:30.300
-  to call upon except for our aircraft, but aircraft time is only about $160 an hour as

00:29:30.300 --> 00:29:35.980
-  compared to a National Guard helicopter, which can be upwards of $4,000 per hour. So as you

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:41.820
-  can see, we are quite a bargain. This aircraft and air crews can be useful in events like

00:29:41.820 --> 00:29:50.080
-  Like the storms last June, tornadoes in Steinsville a few years ago, and much other situations.

00:29:50.080 --> 00:29:53.300
-  And lastly we'll talk about the impact by the numbers nationally.

00:29:53.300 --> 00:29:57.040
-  Every year is different, but on average we save over 100 lives.

00:29:57.040 --> 00:30:06.600
-  There are 555 plus aircraft, 1000 plus vehicles, 1400 plus locations, 100,000 plus hours flown,

00:30:06.600 --> 00:30:13.580
-  500,000 plus students impacted, and 200 million dollars value of time volunteered.

00:30:13.580 --> 00:30:20.060
-  We have a three to one return of investment for every dollar spent in the service of others.

00:30:20.060 --> 00:30:23.380
-  We can also assist in other events, not just emergencies.

00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:27.980
-  During the eclipse last year we had all of our aircraft in the air and updated traffic

00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:34.460
-  information to the Indiana Department of Homeland Security to support the Indiana State Police,

00:30:34.460 --> 00:30:41.460
-  the Indiana Wing, 34 squadrons around the state with 470 adult volunteers, 904 cadets

00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:48.180
-  ages 12 to 21, 62 air crews, and 777 emergency responders.

00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:53.940
-  The assets that could be put into use are 8 aircraft and 18 vehicles consisting of cars,

00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:56.800
-  trucks, and multi-passenger vans.

00:30:56.800 --> 00:31:07.420
-  60 communication systems that include 16 VHF/FM repeaters, 221 VHF/FM stations, and 31 FM stations.

00:31:07.420 --> 00:31:11.180
-  This is part of a nationwide communication system.

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:13.420
-  Conclusion.

00:31:13.420 --> 00:31:17.180
-  This is a great program for young people to learn leadership, character development, learn

00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:21.460
-  new skills, work on STEM activities, and participate in physical training.

00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:26.680
-  This organization is also a great opportunity for adults to volunteer in their community

00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.620
-  and use their skills or learn new ones.

00:31:29.620 --> 00:31:34.220
-  Adults can be active with the cadets or participate in the ground or air crew's emergency services

00:31:34.220 --> 00:31:35.220
-  and communications.

00:31:35.220 --> 00:31:39.980
-  We believe that the Civil Air Patrol is one of the best-kept secrets of a local community.

00:31:39.980 --> 00:31:45.580
-  We can support educators, emergency management agencies, and support young people's growth.

00:31:45.580 --> 00:31:51.020
-  We meet every Thursday evening from 645 to 915 p.m. at the Trinity Reform Church on End

00:31:51.020 --> 00:31:52.160
-  Right Road.

00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.220
-  You are all welcome to drop by and learn about us.

00:31:55.220 --> 00:31:59.660
-  For more information, please go to our website, gocivilairpatrol.com, and we thank you for

00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:00.660
-  your time.

00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:02.700
-  Does anyone have any questions?

00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:06.580
-  Thank you so much, Commander Thompson, Sergeant Schmidt, and Lieutenant Parker.

00:32:06.580 --> 00:32:07.580
-  What a great presentation.

00:32:07.580 --> 00:32:12.440
-  I'll now turn to Councilor here on my right for any questions or comments.

00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:13.440
-  Thank you, Mr. President.

00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.300
-  Thank you for your presentation tonight.

00:32:15.300 --> 00:32:19.500
-  I do have one question for you each.

00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:24.780
-  What's been your most memorable mission or experience that you've had in the Civil Air

00:32:24.780 --> 00:32:25.780
-  Patrol?

00:32:25.780 --> 00:32:27.500
-  And that's for all of you.

00:32:27.500 --> 00:32:28.500
-  Wow.

00:32:28.500 --> 00:32:29.500
-  Yeah.

00:32:29.500 --> 00:32:32.300
-  So for me personally, I think it was probably encampment.

00:32:32.300 --> 00:32:35.660
-  This past year, I got to staff encampment, which means I was the one getting to yell

00:32:35.660 --> 00:32:37.700
-  at all the basics and get them learning.

00:32:37.700 --> 00:32:39.300
-  So that was a lot of fun.

00:32:39.300 --> 00:32:42.260
-  It also was kind of a kick in the pants to get me going in the right direction.

00:32:42.260 --> 00:32:47.500
-  So I believe encampment has probably been my favorite.

00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:51.740
-  For me, it was what I spoke about previously where I got to go on the nation's capital

00:32:51.740 --> 00:32:56.100
-  and speak to my congresswoman, and that really influenced me in what I want to do, because

00:32:56.100 --> 00:33:01.340
-  I do want to go into political science or law and work on the capital.

00:33:01.340 --> 00:33:11.300
-  And I actually got to—I forgot what they're called.

00:33:11.300 --> 00:33:17.140
-  When I was speaking to two of the congresspeople, they offered me an internship—that's what

00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:18.140
-  it's called.

00:33:18.140 --> 00:33:19.140
-  Yeah.

00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:22.220
-  They offered me an internship there for when I'm old enough, because I'm only a junior

00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:28.140
-  in high school, and if they are still in their term, I'm able to go back and take them up

00:33:28.140 --> 00:33:29.140
-  on that internship.

00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:34.260
-  I'm going to have to agree with Lieutenant Parker.

00:33:34.260 --> 00:33:36.380
-  My favorite experiences also have to have been in encampment.

00:33:36.380 --> 00:33:41.780
-  I've been to two as well, once as a basic student and once as an advanced student.

00:33:41.780 --> 00:33:48.380
-  And next week, I will actually be—next two weekends, first two in April, I will be staffing

00:33:48.380 --> 00:33:50.940
-  and encampment up in Illinois Wing.

00:33:50.940 --> 00:33:52.780
-  So get at a third one.

00:33:52.780 --> 00:33:53.780
-  Thank you for that.

00:33:53.780 --> 00:33:57.780
-  I will just comment that you leave me hopeful.

00:33:57.780 --> 00:34:01.780
-  It's another example—Civil Air Patrol—another example of how federal resources come the

00:34:01.780 --> 00:34:06.180
-  whole way down from Washington to our community and how essential they are for everything

00:34:06.180 --> 00:34:08.380
-  that you've described in your presentation.

00:34:08.380 --> 00:34:13.340
-  I'm also hopeful, apparently from the internship offer, that our two senators remember their

00:34:13.340 --> 00:34:17.820
-  Navy and Marine Corps oaths, as you have for what you've already done in service to our

00:34:17.820 --> 00:34:18.980
-  country and community.

00:34:18.980 --> 00:34:20.740
-  So thank you for that.

00:34:20.740 --> 00:34:22.860
-  Councilmember Hawke.

00:34:22.860 --> 00:34:32.700
-  Yes, Justin, I'm so sorry to you folks that I'm not there to meet with you this evening.

00:34:32.700 --> 00:34:38.180
-  I bet my very best friend is watching tonight.

00:34:38.180 --> 00:34:46.820
-  Helen is somebody that I graduated from high school with and been lifelong friends, and

00:34:46.820 --> 00:34:50.540
-  this is her family there that's involved, the Thompsons.

00:34:50.540 --> 00:34:55.860
-  So I know how proud she is of them, and I'm excited for them too.

00:34:55.860 --> 00:35:01.360
-  And they are really, that whole group is doing so much more than most anybody here would

00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.860
-  know about if they hadn't come to talk with us about it.

00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:11.740
-  It sounds like an exciting opportunity for so many people.

00:35:11.740 --> 00:35:15.100
-  Thank you, ma'am.

00:35:15.100 --> 00:35:17.780
-  Mr. Deckard.

00:35:17.780 --> 00:35:22.780
-  Thank you so much for spending some time with us this evening and for telling us this important

00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:23.780
-  information.

00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:30.420
-  In a community like this, we can sometimes take for granted the riches and the good things

00:35:30.420 --> 00:35:32.040
-  that we have.

00:35:32.040 --> 00:35:36.460
-  And I think you have reminded us, not only here on this council, but you've reminded

00:35:36.460 --> 00:35:41.420
-  the public of the wondrous things that you all do and the impact that you're having in

00:35:41.420 --> 00:35:42.860
-  so many different ways.

00:35:42.860 --> 00:35:47.540
-  I love that you have spent some time on Capitol Hill as well.

00:35:47.540 --> 00:35:50.360
-  I love that you're going to go back to Capitol Hill.

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:54.920
-  Maybe one of these days, I'll get a chance to vote for you and send you to Capitol Hill.

00:35:54.920 --> 00:36:02.180
-  But it's remarkable to think of these things and the experience and the leadership you're

00:36:02.180 --> 00:36:04.220
-  getting is robust.

00:36:04.220 --> 00:36:10.660
-  One thing that I love about our folks that are in the service and are serving as you

00:36:10.660 --> 00:36:16.260
-  are is whenever we see you, we get to see all the badges that you have.

00:36:16.260 --> 00:36:20.860
-  All throughout these presentations, I go down and I look at that and it tells me that you

00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:24.620
-  don't get that just walking into a convenience store and saying, "I'd like that one.

00:36:24.620 --> 00:36:25.620
-  That one's cool."

00:36:25.620 --> 00:36:31.140
-  You got that from a lot of work that you've done for this community and for others.

00:36:31.140 --> 00:36:33.980
-  I love that that walks around with you in this role.

00:36:33.980 --> 00:36:40.180
-  I know that for folks like myself and others, that is a reassuring moment in a flood, in

00:36:40.180 --> 00:36:42.980
-  a tough time, at a food pantry.

00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:46.660
-  And I love that that message comes to us tonight, goes out on cats.

00:36:46.660 --> 00:36:51.900
-  This will be recorded that hopefully more people see this and hear that message.

00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:54.340
-  And what a blessing that is for all of us.

00:36:54.340 --> 00:36:59.020
-  So thank you so much for taking time to educate us on a night when you could have been doing

00:36:59.020 --> 00:37:01.320
-  other things, but yet again, here you are serving.

00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:02.320
-  So thank you.

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:03.820
-  Thank you, Mr. Decker.

00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:04.820
-  Councilmember Wilts.

00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:08.820
-  I would just like to say thanks for thinking of us.

00:37:08.820 --> 00:37:12.060
-  Thanks for coming out to our meeting.

00:37:12.060 --> 00:37:13.820
-  I've learned a lot.

00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:18.740
-  I read in the packet and so and I was like, oh, yeah, okay, that's very cool.

00:37:18.740 --> 00:37:22.220
-  But hearing you all speak about it is extra special.

00:37:22.220 --> 00:37:24.500
-  And I learned even more from that.

00:37:24.500 --> 00:37:29.580
-  I'm curious how each of you got involved.

00:37:29.580 --> 00:37:33.340
-  So how did you find out about the program at first?

00:37:33.340 --> 00:37:36.060
-  Yes, ma'am.

00:37:36.060 --> 00:37:40.540
-  So funny enough, it all started when I was watching a TV show with my family and one

00:37:40.540 --> 00:37:44.700
-  of the characters got into the Air Force Academy and I decided that I wanted to do that.

00:37:44.700 --> 00:37:49.340
-  So I did a lot of research and I found Civil Air Patrol through the Air Force Academy website

00:37:49.340 --> 00:37:52.260
-  and I did even more research into that and decided, you know what, this is something

00:37:52.260 --> 00:37:53.520
-  I want to look into.

00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:56.180
-  So I told my parents and funny enough, they'd already heard about it.

00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:58.060
-  So they were like, yeah, we know.

00:37:58.060 --> 00:38:03.300
-  And then I have been here ever since.

00:38:03.300 --> 00:38:08.140
-  I was at an air show here in the state, I don't exactly remember where, but they had

00:38:08.140 --> 00:38:10.740
-  a booth set up and a whole mascot.

00:38:10.740 --> 00:38:16.620
-  They had one of our Cessna 182s out there and I was able to tour the plane, look at

00:38:16.620 --> 00:38:20.620
-  all the different things and one of the cadets, I think she might have been 15 or 16, told

00:38:20.620 --> 00:38:24.380
-  me that she had flown that before and that was really special to me and I found out that

00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:26.940
-  there was a squadron in my town.

00:38:26.940 --> 00:38:30.980
-  So I went and visited it and I've been in here for five years now.

00:38:30.980 --> 00:38:37.940
-  Yeah, for me, I really just was so interested in the Air Force and really wanted to get

00:38:37.940 --> 00:38:44.060
-  into the Air Force Academy and just wanted to do something for it and obviously because

00:38:44.060 --> 00:38:46.820
-  I was 14 at the time, I couldn't.

00:38:46.820 --> 00:38:51.780
-  And then I did a lot of searching around on the Air Force's website and I saw auxiliary

00:38:51.780 --> 00:38:56.340
-  there and I'd never heard of it, so I looked into it and saw this looks really interesting,

00:38:56.340 --> 00:39:00.500
-  I saw some of the things that cadets get to do, saw that there was a squadron here in

00:39:00.500 --> 00:39:06.340
-  Bloomington and I was really scared to join the first day, but been in almost two years

00:39:06.340 --> 00:39:09.380
-  and I love it every day.

00:39:09.380 --> 00:39:17.300
-  Okay, I think I'm on.

00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:21.660
-  So I think that I am impressed that you're here and willing to come and talk to us like

00:39:21.660 --> 00:39:25.900
-  the others have said and all that you've done, but I'm interested to know when you have,

00:39:25.900 --> 00:39:33.100
-  is it your weekly meetings, right, like about how many come and then also how do you go around

00:39:33.100 --> 00:39:39.260
-  and sort of promote who you are in the area for young folks to find out about this, right?

00:39:39.260 --> 00:39:44.380
-  Where do you put your, do you maybe even make a recording and leave it on cats where people

00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:45.380
-  can find out about it?

00:39:45.380 --> 00:39:49.140
-  I don't know what you do, I'd like to know how you promote yourselves.

00:39:49.140 --> 00:39:56.500
-  So in our system we have 35 cats, I believe, and active around 20.

00:39:56.500 --> 00:40:01.820
-  Every meeting we get that showing, putting our name out there, I'm not entirely sure

00:40:01.820 --> 00:40:04.900
-  my dad is actually the recruiter for us.

00:40:04.900 --> 00:40:10.020
-  But I know in my school, because I do go to Bloomington North, we have posters around,

00:40:10.020 --> 00:40:15.820
-  we also go to air shows and we have booths try to promote that, send out flyers or whenever

00:40:15.820 --> 00:40:20.140
-  we're volunteering anywhere, we try to talk to people, get our name out there and we also

00:40:20.140 --> 00:40:25.380
-  have a booth at the fair whenever that takes place.

00:40:25.380 --> 00:40:26.380
-  Very nice.

00:40:26.380 --> 00:40:27.380
-  Thank you.

00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:28.380
-  Thank you, ma'am.

00:40:28.380 --> 00:40:31.500
-  Let me turn my mic on.

00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:37.860
-  Let me conclude with this number $5,406,970.

00:40:37.860 --> 00:40:41.820
-  That is the value of your volunteer hours in the Indiana Wing.

00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:43.060
-  That is phenomenal.

00:40:43.060 --> 00:40:46.820
-  That is such a great investment in what you're doing.

00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:49.980
-  Of course, I think Councilmember Decker and I have been fortunate enough to come out and

00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:54.680
-  visit you out at the airport and we're just so thankful for all you do.

00:40:54.680 --> 00:40:57.420
-  Your presentation was phenomenal.

00:40:57.420 --> 00:40:58.420
-  Thank you for that.

00:40:58.420 --> 00:41:04.860
-  Also, for those watching, that presentation starts on page 26 of today's packet.

00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:08.300
-  If you heard something you liked and want to reference that again, go ahead and head

00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:12.220
-  over to today's agenda and you can see it on page 26.

00:41:12.220 --> 00:41:15.580
-  Thank you for your time and again, you're welcome here anytime.

00:41:15.580 --> 00:41:18.900
-  So have a good night and thank you very much.

00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:23.100
-  Thank you, Council.

00:41:23.100 --> 00:41:25.820
-  All right.

00:41:25.820 --> 00:41:28.460
-  Let's move on to item number eight.

00:41:28.460 --> 00:41:30.980
-  I think that's me again.

00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:32.460
-  I think it is.

00:41:32.460 --> 00:41:33.460
-  Okay.

00:41:33.460 --> 00:41:35.780
-  Items A and B are combined.

00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:45.380
-  Council, I move to the Emergency Management Department's request and fund 8188-9624 EMPG

00:41:45.380 --> 00:41:52.140
-  salary fund to create account lines, approve additional appropriations of $55,000 in the

00:41:52.140 --> 00:41:59.620
-  personnel category and simultaneously amend the 2025 salary ordinance to add account lines

00:41:59.620 --> 00:42:13.980
-  13701, Deputy Director, 40 hours, PATB, non-exempt and account line 15115, Director, 40 hours,

00:42:13.980 --> 00:42:16.660
-  PATD, exempt.

00:42:16.660 --> 00:42:18.180
-  Second.

00:42:18.180 --> 00:42:20.620
-  We have a motion and a second.

00:42:20.620 --> 00:42:24.820
-  Mr. Justin Baker is here with us from the Emergency Management Department.

00:42:24.820 --> 00:42:26.220
-  Tell us about these agenda items.

00:42:26.220 --> 00:42:27.220
-  Yes.

00:42:27.220 --> 00:42:28.220
-  Good evening.

00:42:28.220 --> 00:42:29.220
-  My name is Justin Baker.

00:42:29.220 --> 00:42:31.180
-  I'm the Director of Emergency Management for the county.

00:42:31.180 --> 00:42:40.020
-  This is our annual grant that we get each year that we inverses the county up to $55,000

00:42:40.020 --> 00:42:43.180
-  for our salary and benefits.

00:42:43.180 --> 00:42:44.420
-  So that's what this is.

00:42:44.420 --> 00:42:51.220
-  It's the Emergency Management Performance Grant, and it's to make sure we're compliant

00:42:51.220 --> 00:42:54.620
-  with the state and the federal, like we got to submit our timesheets, we got to have an

00:42:54.620 --> 00:42:59.900
-  exercise each year, and we have to have a good program going on.

00:42:59.900 --> 00:43:00.900
-  All right.

00:43:00.900 --> 00:43:01.900
-  Well, thank you for that.

00:43:01.900 --> 00:43:05.020
-  And may I just remark before we go to council questions how appropriate it is that you are

00:43:05.020 --> 00:43:07.340
-  following the Civil Air Patrol in your presentation.

00:43:07.340 --> 00:43:08.860
-  That was quite nice.

00:43:08.860 --> 00:43:09.860
-  All right.

00:43:09.860 --> 00:43:12.060
-  I went to my right last time, so I'll go to my left.

00:43:12.060 --> 00:43:14.740
-  Any comments or questions for Mr. Baker?

00:43:14.740 --> 00:43:15.740
-  Council Member Wilts?

00:43:15.740 --> 00:43:16.740
-  Yeah.

00:43:16.740 --> 00:43:24.180
-  Well, first, congratulations on a grant because we can't get enough of that.

00:43:24.180 --> 00:43:25.180
-  I mean, that's amazing.

00:43:25.180 --> 00:43:30.940
-  Bringing in money from outside to help fund things that we have to do.

00:43:30.940 --> 00:43:35.380
-  And appreciate that and the work that it takes to maintain that.

00:43:35.380 --> 00:43:41.660
-  As I was looking through the paperwork that you submitted in the packet, it was a little

00:43:41.660 --> 00:43:47.460
-  unclear to me about the reimbursement component and the timeline.

00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:49.860
-  Is it reimbursing costs for 2024?

00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:50.860
-  Yes.

00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:51.860
-  Okay.

00:43:51.860 --> 00:43:52.860
-  2024.

00:43:52.860 --> 00:43:53.860
-  Yes.

00:43:53.860 --> 00:43:54.860
-  Thank you.

00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:55.860
-  Yep.

00:43:55.860 --> 00:43:56.860
-  No problem.

00:43:56.860 --> 00:43:57.860
-  Any other comments or questions?

00:43:57.860 --> 00:43:58.860
-  Mr. Deckard.

00:43:58.860 --> 00:44:02.940
-  I always appreciate when you all come before us because my observation over the years has

00:44:02.940 --> 00:44:07.620
-  been that the role of what you all do and what you experience only expands over time.

00:44:07.620 --> 00:44:13.260
-  And every season we learn something or think of something or somebody very fiercely tells

00:44:13.260 --> 00:44:16.780
-  us something that informs our next year of service.

00:44:16.780 --> 00:44:21.920
-  I know that we're starting to get into that season where we're leading towards either

00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.900
-  June storms or heavy showers or other things.

00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:30.100
-  Anything you want to share with us while you're here before us and have a camera that's recording

00:44:30.100 --> 00:44:36.240
-  this that maybe folks should think about or just kind of be wary of as we head into this

00:44:36.240 --> 00:44:39.820
-  season that we've had pretty steadily here for a number of years?

00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:40.820
-  Yeah.

00:44:40.820 --> 00:44:42.420
-  So always keep track of the forecast.

00:44:42.420 --> 00:44:46.620
-  Make sure you know when bad storms are going to be coming.

00:44:46.620 --> 00:44:47.620
-  Follow our Facebook page.

00:44:47.620 --> 00:44:53.860
-  Sign up for the county and work system as it doesn't cost nothing for any all residents.

00:44:53.860 --> 00:44:56.660
-  Have many ways to get a word.

00:44:56.660 --> 00:45:04.260
-  Don't just solely focus on one thing.

00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:10.340
-  Have many ways to get a word about severe letters or any kind of events.

00:45:10.340 --> 00:45:11.780
-  Right.

00:45:11.780 --> 00:45:14.500
-  Any other comments or questions to my left?

00:45:14.500 --> 00:45:15.500
-  Seeing none.

00:45:15.500 --> 00:45:16.500
-  I'll go to my right.

00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:17.500
-  Mr. Deckard.

00:45:17.500 --> 00:45:18.500
-  Good Lord.

00:45:18.500 --> 00:45:19.500
-  I'm so sorry.

00:45:19.500 --> 00:45:22.860
-  I'm from the East Coast Deckards.

00:45:22.860 --> 00:45:26.340
-  Thank you, Mr. President, David Henry, for the record.

00:45:26.340 --> 00:45:28.220
-  Justin, thanks for coming in.

00:45:28.220 --> 00:45:31.460
-  I just want to maybe toot the horn of this program a little bit.

00:45:31.460 --> 00:45:36.540
-  By the way, I'll be over on Friday in the building, so I'll say hi again.

00:45:36.540 --> 00:45:40.460
-  The Emergency Management Performance Grant Program, do you know how many years we've

00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:41.900
-  been getting that in the county at all?

00:45:41.900 --> 00:45:43.220
-  I know it's like a trick question.

00:45:43.220 --> 00:45:45.500
-  I didn't prep this, sorry.

00:45:45.500 --> 00:45:46.500
-  It's been a while.

00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:53.380
-  The program has been around since 1988 nationally, and just to understand for everybody just

00:45:53.380 --> 00:45:58.220
-  how important this program is, it helps undergird all the work we do locally for threat hazard

00:45:58.220 --> 00:46:01.700
-  identification assessment, for meeting the national preparedness goal, to show we're

00:46:01.700 --> 00:46:07.580
-  doing our part as a whole here from a county up to the state, and that is a FEMA-funded

00:46:07.580 --> 00:46:08.580
-  program.

00:46:08.580 --> 00:46:12.820
-  It helps us to integrate with all the standards, all the technology, all the things we need

00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:18.580
-  to do to be a good federal and state partner, and as FEMA has been maligned in the media

00:46:18.580 --> 00:46:23.780
-  and attacked from up in DC, it's really important for folks to understand just how much we rely

00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:29.060
-  on that resource not only to keep our community safe, but also to do all the work that Councilman

00:46:29.060 --> 00:46:34.140
-  Decker and you mentioned on preparing for our season and getting ready for when the

00:46:34.140 --> 00:46:38.580
-  next disaster happens, how to assess it, and how to continue to get, as Councilor Wills

00:46:38.580 --> 00:46:41.540
-  mentioned, more federal resources to our community in times of crisis.

00:46:41.540 --> 00:46:43.660
-  It is an incredibly important program.

00:46:43.660 --> 00:46:46.540
-  I hope we continue to see that support year in and year out.

00:46:46.540 --> 00:46:47.620
-  Happy to support it.

00:46:47.620 --> 00:46:49.620
-  Thank you, Mr. President.

00:46:49.620 --> 00:46:51.700
-  Mr. David Henry, thank you for your wisdom.

00:46:51.700 --> 00:46:52.700
-  That was very helpful.

00:46:52.700 --> 00:46:54.700
-  Council Member Hawke.

00:46:54.700 --> 00:46:55.700
-  Yes.

00:46:55.700 --> 00:47:04.820
-  Just to show you how far the county has come, this used to be half time for this service

00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:10.540
-  and the other half of the person's time was spent with Veterans Affairs.

00:47:10.540 --> 00:47:18.240
-  So as we grow, we need to have more emphasis placed on different issues.

00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:25.220
-  And I'm so grateful that you were able to continue to get this grant to cover those

00:47:25.220 --> 00:47:27.420
-  salaries and your expenses.

00:47:27.420 --> 00:47:30.420
-  So thank you so much for everything you do.

00:47:30.420 --> 00:47:36.940
-  And boy, you know, it was just last year when trees were down everywhere and you were like

00:47:36.940 --> 00:47:42.580
-  doing everything you could to try to make sure that people got the news and got the

00:47:42.580 --> 00:47:45.460
-  service and the protection that they needed.

00:47:45.460 --> 00:47:47.700
-  So much appreciated.

00:47:47.700 --> 00:47:51.100
-  Thank you, Councilmember Hawke.

00:47:51.100 --> 00:47:56.620
-  Mr. Baker, I'll just ask that you share our congratulations and support with your team.

00:47:56.620 --> 00:47:59.700
-  As you can hear, we're all very happy that you got this.

00:47:59.700 --> 00:48:00.700
-  All right.

00:48:00.700 --> 00:48:04.580
-  I'm going to ask for any public comments on these agenda items.

00:48:04.580 --> 00:48:09.080
-  So I'm looking, asking for folks to come to the podium here in the NatU Hill Room or raise

00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:15.060
-  your hand on teams for this grant from the Emergency Management Department.

00:48:15.060 --> 00:48:19.500
-  Seeing none, may we have a roll call vote?

00:48:19.500 --> 00:48:20.980
-  Councilor Wilts?

00:48:20.980 --> 00:48:21.980
-  Yes.

00:48:21.980 --> 00:48:23.860
-  Councilor Hawke?

00:48:23.860 --> 00:48:24.860
-  Yes.

00:48:24.860 --> 00:48:26.060
-  Councilor Decker?

00:48:26.060 --> 00:48:27.060
-  Yes.

00:48:27.060 --> 00:48:28.060
-  Councilor Henry?

00:48:28.060 --> 00:48:29.060
-  Yes.

00:48:29.060 --> 00:48:30.060
-  Councilor Iverson?

00:48:30.060 --> 00:48:31.060
-  Yes.

00:48:31.060 --> 00:48:32.060
-  Councilor Feidl?

00:48:32.060 --> 00:48:33.060
-  Yes.

00:48:33.060 --> 00:48:35.860
-  That passes unanimously.

00:48:35.860 --> 00:48:36.860
-  Thank you, Council.

00:48:36.860 --> 00:48:37.860
-  Thank you very much.

00:48:37.860 --> 00:48:40.660
-  That brings us to item number nine, the Employee Services Department.

00:48:40.660 --> 00:48:52.380
-  Council, I move to approve the Employee Services Department's request and fund 1,000-0309 General

00:48:52.380 --> 00:49:01.540
-  Fund Employee Services for an additional appropriation of $120,334 in the personnel category.

00:49:01.540 --> 00:49:02.580
-  Second.

00:49:02.580 --> 00:49:07.300
-  We have a motion and a second, Denise Ensgenstein, here to tell us what is going on.

00:49:07.300 --> 00:49:08.300
-  Sure.

00:49:08.300 --> 00:49:09.300
-  Good evening, Council.

00:49:09.300 --> 00:49:14.660
-  This is a housekeeping item related to the classification changes that you approved for

00:49:14.660 --> 00:49:21.580
-  our office in the fall of last year, plus the addition of a new position.

00:49:21.580 --> 00:49:29.020
-  Last year, I was able to move some funds around in our lines to account for those classification

00:49:29.020 --> 00:49:35.940
-  changes but do not have all of the money to be able to do so for that new position and

00:49:35.940 --> 00:49:40.460
-  the classification changes with what we budgeted for this year, so that is the reason for this

00:49:40.460 --> 00:49:41.460
-  request.

00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:42.460
-  All right.

00:49:42.460 --> 00:49:43.460
-  Thank you very much for that update.

00:49:43.460 --> 00:49:45.780
-  I'll go to my right to begin this time.

00:49:45.780 --> 00:49:46.780
-  Mr. Henry.

00:49:46.780 --> 00:49:47.780
-  All right.

00:49:47.780 --> 00:49:52.460
-  Ms. Hawk, do you have anything to say or comments or questions?

00:49:52.460 --> 00:49:59.700
-  Yes, I'd like very much to have the commissioners find this dollar amount someplace in their

00:49:59.700 --> 00:50:01.300
-  budget.

00:50:01.300 --> 00:50:07.300
-  They wanted so much to have this done and we know we're trying to watch every dollar

00:50:07.300 --> 00:50:15.180
-  and this was not an addition that I supported during budget hearing, so I'm not going to

00:50:15.180 --> 00:50:21.900
-  support this move, but I certainly think that the commissioners could get into their budget

00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:25.700
-  and try to find the dollars to support this.

00:50:25.700 --> 00:50:26.700
-  Thank you.

00:50:26.700 --> 00:50:28.980
-  I'm going to look to my left for comments or questions.

00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:29.980
-  Yes.

00:50:29.980 --> 00:50:32.020
-  Council Member Woods.

00:50:32.020 --> 00:50:39.900
-  Yeah, so I don't know that it would make a big difference where the money came from in

00:50:39.900 --> 00:50:45.820
-  terms of whose budget, but, you know, we committed to supporting the position.

00:50:45.820 --> 00:50:53.540
-  It's been created and I think it's a no-brainer to pay our bills and support the position

00:50:53.540 --> 00:50:57.140
-  that's been put in place.

00:50:57.140 --> 00:51:00.580
-  Any other comments or questions from my left here?

00:51:00.580 --> 00:51:01.580
-  Seeing none.

00:51:01.580 --> 00:51:06.740
-  Let's look to see if there's any public comments on this item, whether it's here in the Not

00:51:06.740 --> 00:51:17.460
-  U Hill Room or online, seeing none, could we have a roll call vote?

00:51:17.460 --> 00:51:18.460
-  Councilor Iverson.

00:51:18.460 --> 00:51:19.460
-  Yes.

00:51:19.460 --> 00:51:20.460
-  Councilor Henry.

00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:21.460
-  Yes.

00:51:21.460 --> 00:51:22.460
-  Councilor Hawk.

00:51:22.460 --> 00:51:23.460
-  No.

00:51:23.460 --> 00:51:24.460
-  Councilor Wilts.

00:51:24.460 --> 00:51:25.460
-  Yes.

00:51:25.460 --> 00:51:26.460
-  Councilor Feidl.

00:51:26.460 --> 00:51:27.460
-  Yes.

00:51:27.460 --> 00:51:28.460
-  Councilor Decker.

00:51:28.460 --> 00:51:29.460
-  Yes.

00:51:29.460 --> 00:51:34.900
-  Motion passes majority five to one.

00:51:34.900 --> 00:51:35.900
-  You're welcome.

00:51:35.900 --> 00:51:36.900
-  All right.

00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:40.460
-  That brings us to item number 10, the prosecutor's office.

00:51:40.460 --> 00:51:47.580
-  Council, I move to approve the prosecutor's request and fund four one zero two dash zero

00:51:47.580 --> 00:51:56.060
-  zero zero zero donations hyphen APS unit 10, the creation of account line three eight one

00:51:56.060 --> 00:52:03.260
-  one zero services and charges and simultaneously an additional appropriation of one thousand

00:52:03.260 --> 00:52:09.060
-  five hundred sixty nine dollars and seventy eight cents in the services category.

00:52:09.060 --> 00:52:10.500
-  Second.

00:52:10.500 --> 00:52:13.560
-  We have a motion and a second and Beth Hamlin with us tonight.

00:52:13.560 --> 00:52:15.700
-  What is going on with this agenda item?

00:52:15.700 --> 00:52:17.120
-  Good evening, counselors.

00:52:17.120 --> 00:52:24.100
-  This is a fund that we have maintained for as long as I've been here, 18 years.

00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:28.940
-  We have not ever previously had to have this appropriated because it was a donation fund

00:52:28.940 --> 00:52:31.100
-  that was specific for APS.

00:52:31.100 --> 00:52:35.660
-  I believe there's a new rule that requires us to have this appropriated.

00:52:35.660 --> 00:52:40.460
-  We are only asking to appropriate the balance that's in the fund, which is the fifteen sixty

00:52:40.460 --> 00:52:43.640
-  nine seventy eight.

00:52:43.640 --> 00:52:44.640
-  All right.

00:52:44.640 --> 00:52:45.640
-  Short and sweet.

00:52:45.640 --> 00:52:46.640
-  Looking to my left.

00:52:46.640 --> 00:52:47.640
-  For any comments.

00:52:47.640 --> 00:52:48.640
-  Can I make one clarification?

00:52:48.640 --> 00:52:49.640
-  Of course you can.

00:52:49.640 --> 00:52:51.820
-  For counselor Hawk specifically.

00:52:51.820 --> 00:52:53.900
-  These funds are from donations.

00:52:53.900 --> 00:52:55.400
-  These are not county general funds.

00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:56.400
-  Okay.

00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.020
-  And as your mind reader.

00:52:58.020 --> 00:52:59.020
-  All right.

00:52:59.020 --> 00:53:00.020
-  Going to the left.

00:53:00.020 --> 00:53:01.020
-  Right.

00:53:01.020 --> 00:53:02.020
-  And then we have the first concern.

00:53:02.020 --> 00:53:03.020
-  Well.

00:53:03.020 --> 00:53:04.020
-  Yeah.

00:53:04.020 --> 00:53:08.100
-  Obviously the action seems like a no brainer.

00:53:08.100 --> 00:53:14.060
-  You're just doing what what the auditor's office has asked you to do, which is great.

00:53:14.060 --> 00:53:25.500
-  But reading about funding and adult protective services brings to mind some of the uncertainty

00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:28.380
-  around the future of of that funding.

00:53:28.380 --> 00:53:29.580
-  Do you have an update?

00:53:29.580 --> 00:53:33.780
-  I haven't been keeping up like, you know, week to week or anything, but I am aware that

00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:37.940
-  there might be some threats to APS funding.

00:53:37.940 --> 00:53:38.940
-  That's correct.

00:53:38.940 --> 00:53:45.580
-  The state did not recontract with prosecutors offices as they have for decades.

00:53:45.580 --> 00:53:55.420
-  They opened an RFP and received some proposals to provide the service of protecting endangered

00:53:55.420 --> 00:53:56.660
-  adults.

00:53:56.660 --> 00:54:03.260
-  The prosecuting attorneys council did, on behalf of prosecutors offices, submit a proposal

00:54:03.260 --> 00:54:04.600
-  that was fully funded.

00:54:04.600 --> 00:54:10.300
-  That was the reason for the breakdown originally was that a program just has not been funded

00:54:10.300 --> 00:54:14.400
-  adequately for a very long time.

00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:20.140
-  We still have no answer from the state, which is concerning because our contract, our current

00:54:20.140 --> 00:54:29.260
-  contract ends on June 30th, and to my understanding, there's no decision that's been made, which

00:54:29.260 --> 00:54:30.940
-  is extremely concerning.

00:54:30.940 --> 00:54:35.180
-  We've already lost one of our investigators because obviously, you know, there's such

00:54:35.180 --> 00:54:42.540
-  uncertainty, you know, they need to take care of their families.

00:54:42.540 --> 00:54:47.500
-  So yeah, I wish I had an update for you, but I do not.

00:54:47.500 --> 00:54:51.300
-  Mr. Deckard, thank you.

00:54:51.300 --> 00:54:55.060
-  Thank you very much, Beth, for being here, and I don't have any comment on this line

00:54:55.060 --> 00:55:00.860
-  other than the information that Counselor Wiltz has kind of asked and that you were

00:55:00.860 --> 00:55:02.780
-  very candid to supply.

00:55:02.780 --> 00:55:09.420
-  I, you know, I entered into our meeting today in a better place than I've started recent

00:55:09.420 --> 00:55:13.660
-  meetings and you've had to be here and listen to a couple of my editorials and my blood

00:55:13.660 --> 00:55:18.740
-  pressure, I think if you took it earlier before your last comment was probably in better shape.

00:55:18.740 --> 00:55:22.940
-  But now my soapbox is going to come out just for about 12 seconds.

00:55:22.940 --> 00:55:23.940
-  You go, girl.

00:55:23.940 --> 00:55:24.940
-  I thank you.

00:55:24.940 --> 00:55:33.940
-  I have to be frank, there are sometimes I read the news, I watch things and I'm a calm entity,

00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:38.120
-  but this is a regression in society.

00:55:38.120 --> 00:55:40.260
-  So for folks back home, here's what I mean.

00:55:40.260 --> 00:55:45.340
-  We're moving backwards in time and not in a good nostalgic backwards.

00:55:45.340 --> 00:55:47.580
-  We're moving to bad nostalgia.

00:55:47.580 --> 00:55:54.620
-  And I get memories from being in undergrad criminology classes, it was one of my majors.

00:55:54.620 --> 00:55:59.020
-  By the way, they tell you in criminal justice criminology majors to never tell anybody that

00:55:59.020 --> 00:56:03.820
-  that's your major, particularly if you get pulled over because no one will be impressed.

00:56:03.820 --> 00:56:13.420
-  And they said, you'll make it worse, but I can remember vividly talking, this is 1996/7/8,

00:56:13.420 --> 00:56:20.020
-  talking about how communities moving to adult protective services is the new wave of where

00:56:20.020 --> 00:56:21.020
-  we're going.

00:56:21.020 --> 00:56:26.940
-  And this is, we got to do this because elder abuse and other things that are unmentionable

00:56:26.940 --> 00:56:31.700
-  but happen when you have older populations and all these things, they occur.

00:56:31.700 --> 00:56:34.940
-  And so we were bright-eyed students there and thinking, well, this will just be one

00:56:34.940 --> 00:56:37.140
-  of those things that never goes away.

00:56:37.140 --> 00:56:45.780
-  Now we hear this, and I have to say for our state and our future, I keep hearing about

00:56:45.780 --> 00:56:48.060
-  all these things that we're going to do this better.

00:56:48.060 --> 00:56:53.020
-  This is what cutting looks like, and these are people's families, and a lot of times

00:56:53.020 --> 00:56:57.260
-  they're families that are not going to have folks that can take care of them or they're

00:56:57.260 --> 00:57:00.860
-  not going to have folks that are taking care of them in the right way.

00:57:00.860 --> 00:57:04.660
-  And occasionally the state's got to jump in there because nobody else is.

00:57:04.660 --> 00:57:09.860
-  So I hear this, and I'll say what I've said in recent meetings.

00:57:09.860 --> 00:57:13.720
-  I'm sorry for going on so long, but folks, this will be one of those when we'll look

00:57:13.720 --> 00:57:15.860
-  back and remember when kind of moments.

00:57:15.860 --> 00:57:22.940
-  For our legislators and others of any way that are doing the people's business, this

00:57:22.940 --> 00:57:25.760
-  is one, you don't want to screw this one up.

00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.980
-  So make your calls to your agency heads, make your calls to those who are budgeting, and

00:57:30.980 --> 00:57:33.500
-  say is this really where we're heading?

00:57:33.500 --> 00:57:36.500
-  Is this really, really, really where we're heading?

00:57:36.500 --> 00:57:41.640
-  And I hope that the answer is no, this is just one of those mistakes, oversights.

00:57:41.640 --> 00:57:49.540
-  But folks moving back like this, this isn't nostalgia, this is how cruel things happen

00:57:49.540 --> 00:57:51.140
-  in bad societies.

00:57:51.140 --> 00:57:57.100
-  It'd be different if we were not a place that had the means and the efforts and the abilities

00:57:57.100 --> 00:57:58.660
-  to figure it out.

00:57:58.660 --> 00:58:03.460
-  Good Lord, we put a man on the moon in 1969, we can't look out for our seniors in the year

00:58:03.460 --> 00:58:05.740
-  of 2025?

00:58:05.740 --> 00:58:06.740
-  Come on now.

00:58:06.740 --> 00:58:11.940
-  So thank you, Beth, and I apologize for my soapbox, but sometimes people in my job that

00:58:11.940 --> 00:58:15.980
-  took an oath to the state and the federal constitution have to get a soapbox out or

00:58:15.980 --> 00:58:19.500
-  two and remind folks of their oaths they took as well.

00:58:19.500 --> 00:58:21.540
-  Mr. President.

00:58:21.540 --> 00:58:22.540
-  All right.

00:58:22.540 --> 00:58:26.020
-  After those 12 seconds, is there any other comments or questions?

00:58:26.020 --> 00:58:27.020
-  All right.

00:58:27.020 --> 00:58:29.380
-  I see Councilmember Hawke with her hand raised.

00:58:29.380 --> 00:58:30.380
-  Right.

00:58:30.380 --> 00:58:36.940
-  I would object to Trent's long dialogue there, except that he was awfully good to help me

00:58:36.940 --> 00:58:41.060
-  get home the other day when I couldn't make it on my own.

00:58:41.060 --> 00:58:48.340
-  So maybe I'm one of those endangered species there.

00:58:48.340 --> 00:58:52.900
-  I just want to say to Beth, because that's what we were talking about to begin with,

00:58:52.900 --> 00:58:58.300
-  that, of course, I understand that this is money that you've held back, not had to come

00:58:58.300 --> 00:59:01.500
-  and ask for an appropriation on it.

00:59:01.500 --> 00:59:04.740
-  But thank you for sharing that information with us.

00:59:04.740 --> 00:59:15.140
-  And indeed, if you can see a way or if you will let me know what people you've been speaking

00:59:15.140 --> 00:59:21.420
-  with at the state level, I'll do what I can to see where we are on that.

00:59:21.420 --> 00:59:24.860
-  Just shoot me a message and let me know.

00:59:24.860 --> 00:59:25.860
-  All right.

00:59:25.860 --> 00:59:26.860
-  Thanks.

00:59:26.860 --> 00:59:29.260
-  No other comments?

00:59:29.260 --> 00:59:34.460
-  To my right, I will just say as someone who is a caretaker for a vulnerable adult and

00:59:34.460 --> 00:59:39.460
-  as someone who is married to someone who used to work for APS, it feels really good to be

00:59:39.460 --> 00:59:42.100
-  able to support you in this moment.

00:59:42.100 --> 00:59:47.840
-  So I really appreciate that and I'll put an additional addendum on to what Councilmember

00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:53.020
-  Deckard was saying, is that if folks have not read Senate Bill 2 yet, they should do

00:59:53.020 --> 01:00:01.500
-  so because the current iteration of that bill is an all out war against the folks that APS

01:00:01.500 --> 01:00:02.820
-  is serving.

01:00:02.820 --> 01:00:06.380
-  So I do appreciate everything you're doing here.

01:00:06.380 --> 01:00:07.380
-  All right.

01:00:07.380 --> 01:00:08.380
-  Let's...

01:00:08.380 --> 01:00:09.380
-  Mr. President, could I add on to that?

01:00:09.380 --> 01:00:15.180
-  We're going to look for public comment because I think we're done here with Council comments.

01:00:15.180 --> 01:00:16.940
-  I don't...

01:00:16.940 --> 01:00:25.740
-  If you have any public comments in the NatU Hill Room or online, please raise your hand.

01:00:25.740 --> 01:00:31.340
-  Seeing none, let's have a roll call vote.

01:00:31.340 --> 01:00:39.900
-  Councilor Hawke, yes. Councilor Decker, yes. Councilor Feidl, yes. Councilor Wilts, yes.

01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:45.620
-  Councilor Henry, yes. Councilor Iverson, yes. Motion passes unanimous. Thank you all very

01:00:45.620 --> 01:00:46.620
-  much.

01:00:46.620 --> 01:00:47.620
-  Thank you.

01:00:47.620 --> 01:00:48.620
-  All right.

01:00:48.620 --> 01:00:51.780
-  That brings us to item number 11, Board of Commissioners.

01:00:51.780 --> 01:01:02.100
-  So, Council, I move to approve the Board of Commissioners request and fund 1000-0068 County

01:01:02.100 --> 01:01:08.820
-  General Commissioners of an additional appropriation in the amount of $10,000 in the services

01:01:08.820 --> 01:01:09.740
-  category.

01:01:09.740 --> 01:01:10.740
-  Second.

01:01:10.740 --> 01:01:16.300
-  All right. We have a motion and a second, and we have Angie Purdy here with us from

01:01:16.300 --> 01:01:19.700
-  the Commissioner's office. Tell us what's going on here.

01:01:19.700 --> 01:01:27.140
-  Well, actually, I'm hoping that Mr. Cockrell could be promoted to Panelist as he has had

01:01:27.140 --> 01:01:33.820
-  firsthand connections with this particular item.

01:01:33.820 --> 01:01:39.900
-  All right. We do see that Mr. Cockrell is online.

01:01:39.900 --> 01:01:40.900
-  Good evening.

01:01:40.900 --> 01:01:43.420
-  All right. The floor is yours, sir.

01:01:43.420 --> 01:01:49.500
-  Yes. What we have here is a request for a $10,000 appropriation, and I'll give a little

01:01:49.500 --> 01:01:55.220
-  bit of the background of it. I think it's pretty spelled out in the agenda cover sheet.

01:01:55.220 --> 01:02:04.460
-  But last fall, the Bean Blossom Trustee was looking to add Bean Blossom Township to the

01:02:04.460 --> 01:02:10.420
-  Monroe Fire Protection District, and as part of the Commissioner's kind of standard routine

01:02:10.420 --> 01:02:18.700
-  is they set some rules. One of those rules was that if 50 people filed an objection,

01:02:18.700 --> 01:02:22.060
-  then the commissioners would have a public hearing, and the commissioners had that public

01:02:22.060 --> 01:02:29.180
-  hearing at the Steinsville Elementary School. At that hearing, what we heard from the public

01:02:29.180 --> 01:02:34.020
-  was essentially a lack of information and a lack of understanding of what all the options

01:02:34.020 --> 01:02:40.500
-  are, what problems they were going to address with changing the fire protection district,

01:02:40.500 --> 01:02:47.900
-  and a lot of concern with essentially lack of information. So the Commissioner Thomas

01:02:47.900 --> 01:02:55.240
-  and I have met with the Ellitsville Fire Chief, the Monroe Fire Protection District Chief,

01:02:55.240 --> 01:03:02.740
-  and the Township Trustee, and at the last meeting there also was Representative Mike

01:03:02.740 --> 01:03:07.980
-  Farmer from the town of Ellitsville, as well as the Bean Blossom Steinsville Volunteer

01:03:07.980 --> 01:03:12.820
-  Chief was at the meetings, and what we're trying to do is put together an information

01:03:12.820 --> 01:03:20.900
-  sheet that explains what the problem is, and what the Ellitsville's offer has been to provide

01:03:20.900 --> 01:03:25.340
-  the fire protection in that area, what the Monroe Fire Protection District's plan would

01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:30.780
-  be, and then also a financial analysis so that people can see what the cost differential

01:03:30.780 --> 01:03:36.580
-  is for those levels of service. This $10,000, we have a quote from Baker Tilley to kind

01:03:36.580 --> 01:03:42.060
-  of do run that financial analysis for that to include in that program, and so that's

01:03:42.060 --> 01:03:46.300
-  what this $10,000 additional appropriations for.

01:03:46.300 --> 01:03:51.740
-  Thank you very much. Anything else to add? All right. I'm going to start to my right

01:03:51.740 --> 01:04:02.420
-  here, Council Member Henry. All right. Looking online. All right. I'll look over to my left.

01:04:02.420 --> 01:04:07.800
-  All right. We have no comments. This is a good thing, I think, for fire protection,

01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:14.540
-  so we'll look to the public to see if they want to say anything about this item. If you

01:04:14.540 --> 01:04:19.540
-  would come up to the podium in that room or raise your hand on teams. Seeing none, could

01:04:19.540 --> 01:04:24.060
-  we have a roll call vote?

01:04:24.060 --> 01:04:25.060
-  Councilor Feidl?

01:04:25.060 --> 01:04:26.060
-  Yes.

01:04:26.060 --> 01:04:27.060
-  Councilor Iverson?

01:04:27.060 --> 01:04:28.060
-  Yes.

01:04:28.060 --> 01:04:29.060
-  Councilor Henry?

01:04:29.060 --> 01:04:30.060
-  Yes.

01:04:30.060 --> 01:04:31.060
-  Councilor Decker?

01:04:31.060 --> 01:04:32.060
-  Yes.

01:04:32.060 --> 01:04:33.060
-  Councilor Wilts?

01:04:33.060 --> 01:04:34.060
-  Yes.

01:04:34.060 --> 01:04:35.060
-  Councilor Hock?

01:04:35.060 --> 01:04:36.780
-  No.

01:04:36.780 --> 01:04:40.460
-  Motion passes, majority five to one.

01:04:40.460 --> 01:04:45.460
-  All right. Thank you very much. That brings us to letter B.

01:04:45.460 --> 01:04:57.100
-  Council, I move to approve the Board of Commissioners request and fund 1000-0106 County General

01:04:57.100 --> 01:05:13.190
-  TSD or in fund 1186-0000 Rainy Day, the creation of account line 30006, contractual and

01:05:13.190 --> 01:05:14.300
-  simultaneously

01:05:14.300 --> 01:05:20.460
-  approve an additional appropriation of $200,000 in the services category.

01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:22.140
-  Second.

01:05:22.140 --> 01:05:28.380
-  We have a motion and a second on this unusual motion. Ms. Purdy, what do we need to know

01:05:28.380 --> 01:05:29.380
-  about this?

01:05:29.380 --> 01:05:35.500
-  What you need to know is that we, the commissioners currently have the option of entering into

01:05:35.500 --> 01:05:42.880
-  a contract in which we make lease payments or, and when we do lease payments, then there's

01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:49.340
-  an interest that's assessed. And in this particular case, it's over five years and I believe it's

01:05:49.340 --> 01:05:54.800
-  $68,000. This was the information I found back in December when I was first looking

01:05:54.800 --> 01:06:03.620
-  at this. And so what we wanted to do was to provide you with the opportunity to decide

01:06:03.620 --> 01:06:12.500
-  if you wanted to incur the interest expenses or if you wanted to pay for it upfront in

01:06:12.500 --> 01:06:14.620
-  its full amount.

01:06:14.620 --> 01:06:28.660
-  I was able to locate $300,000 to go toward this expense, our older bonds. And that bond,

01:06:28.660 --> 01:06:38.980
-  as you may or may not know, had some furniture and redesign for offices in the Justice Building.

01:06:38.980 --> 01:06:43.060
-  I know that, for instance, the prosecutor's office, due to the fact that we've actually

01:06:43.060 --> 01:06:49.540
-  started moving forward on the provision of our jail and justice center, they elected

01:06:49.540 --> 01:06:56.340
-  to just get chairs because they thought it was going to be 10 years down the road. And

01:06:56.340 --> 01:07:04.260
-  so that's how that happened. So we've actually moved those funds into another line for Justice

01:07:04.260 --> 01:07:09.660
-  Building expenses. Also, I think included in that bond, I believe that's how that played.

01:07:09.660 --> 01:07:17.380
-  But we also have another line for the clerk's office. And so we purpose that line into the

01:07:17.380 --> 01:07:18.380
-  software line.

01:07:18.380 --> 01:07:23.580
-  All right. Thank you for that explanation. I went to my right last time. So let's go

01:07:23.580 --> 01:07:31.380
-  to my left for counsel. Do you have any comments or questions? I'm going to call on Councilmember

01:07:31.380 --> 01:07:36.550
-  Wilts because it looks like you've got a question formulating. However, if it's not quite

01:07:36.550 --> 01:07:36.940
-  formulated

01:07:36.940 --> 01:07:41.100
-  yet, I can go on.

01:07:41.100 --> 01:07:45.300
-  It's not quite formulated. Thank you. Sorry, my face was...

01:07:45.300 --> 01:07:50.540
-  No, no, it's good. It's good. All right. Go to my right. Any comments or questions? Yes,

01:07:50.540 --> 01:07:51.540
-  Mr. Henry.

01:07:51.540 --> 01:07:56.860
-  Thank you, Mr. President. So Ms. Purdy, if you could maybe walk me through the bond piece

01:07:56.860 --> 01:08:03.300
-  a little more. As I recall, I think the last time I was exposed to some conversation about

01:08:03.300 --> 01:08:10.400
-  this particular item that we were looking at the bond for repurposing and not recommending

01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:18.500
-  that we pull the funds out of the options here in the proposal. So are we not using

01:08:18.500 --> 01:08:23.700
-  that resource? Am I missing something here in what I'm looking at?

01:08:23.700 --> 01:08:27.180
-  I'm not sure I understand the question. We are using the bond.

01:08:27.180 --> 01:08:31.180
-  We have an or option here for rainy day fund use. We have an or option for county general

01:08:31.180 --> 01:08:36.740
-  fund, but is the bond a third vehicle or can you clarify that for me so I can understand

01:08:36.740 --> 01:08:37.740
-  it?

01:08:37.740 --> 01:08:48.660
-  The total cost of the software is over $500,000. So I was able to locate 300 and now I'm asking

01:08:48.660 --> 01:08:54.060
-  council and giving you the option of which particular fund you would want to use if that

01:08:54.060 --> 01:08:57.140
-  was your decision to pay in full.

01:08:57.140 --> 01:09:02.940
-  So just so I'm clear then, so the 300 is accounted for and the balance, the 200 to apply to the

01:09:02.940 --> 01:09:06.140
-  500 is what we're talking about this evening. So I guess that wasn't clear in the notes

01:09:06.140 --> 01:09:10.060
-  I had in front of me, but thank you for that.

01:09:10.060 --> 01:09:14.140
-  All right. Councilmember Hawke, I see your hand raised.

01:09:14.140 --> 01:09:23.140
-  Yes. Can you tell me if it's allowed to pay for this out of that QM fund?

01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:28.460
-  Yes, that's where we pay for all of our software right now out of QM.

01:09:28.460 --> 01:09:32.660
-  That's what I'm saying. Just you've got, what's your balance in your QM fund? Just pay for

01:09:32.660 --> 01:09:38.680
-  it out of the QM fund. I mean, all these additionals, and I saw a lot of others coming from the

01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:44.780
-  commissioners coming up in the next meeting or so, and either we're going to watch these

01:09:44.780 --> 01:09:50.180
-  budgets and watch these dollars, but to come up with additionals when we're sitting at

01:09:50.180 --> 01:09:56.300
-  the beginning of the year is, I mean, I just think you ought to go into your present dollars

01:09:56.300 --> 01:10:01.060
-  and present budgets and find a way to cover this.

01:10:01.060 --> 01:10:05.100
-  Want me to answer?

01:10:05.100 --> 01:10:11.580
-  And going to Rainy Day to cover it is actually the same thing as doing a total additional

01:10:11.580 --> 01:10:20.580
-  in general fund, because we can move that Rainy Day back over into general.

01:10:20.580 --> 01:10:25.740
-  If you want to know, we have a budget of 3.8 million in our cumulative capital. We currently

01:10:25.740 --> 01:10:29.340
-  have a million dollar software line.

01:10:29.340 --> 01:10:35.060
-  I know, I want to know what is your balance in the CUMCAP cash balance?

01:10:35.060 --> 01:10:36.060
-  1.9 million.

01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:37.060
-  What?

01:10:37.060 --> 01:10:38.060
-  1.9 million.

01:10:38.060 --> 01:10:39.060
-  9.9 million.

01:10:39.060 --> 01:10:41.060
-  No, we're not going to be able to do that.

01:10:41.060 --> 01:10:44.060
-  No, 1.9 million.

01:10:44.060 --> 01:10:55.700
-  1.9 million. And you'll be getting in June, you'll be getting more dollars coming into

01:10:55.700 --> 01:10:56.700
-  that.

01:10:56.700 --> 01:11:05.220
-  Correct, because we have a 3.8 million dollar budget.

01:11:05.220 --> 01:11:09.940
-  Sometimes you have to make choices.

01:11:09.940 --> 01:11:15.380
-  All right, Councilmember Wilts, looks like that question came up.

01:11:15.380 --> 01:11:22.260
-  You were starting to explain about the budget that you have, and I guess I felt like you

01:11:22.260 --> 01:11:28.620
-  weren't finished, or at least I wanted to hear more, so you said that you had a software

01:11:28.620 --> 01:11:29.620
-  line.

01:11:29.620 --> 01:11:34.740
-  Yes, there is a software line already in that particular bond, and because of that, the

01:11:34.740 --> 01:11:43.100
-  bond works, you get the money to complete these projects.

01:11:43.100 --> 01:11:48.380
-  Some projects are more, some are less, and some projects don't get done if other ones

01:11:48.380 --> 01:11:55.700
-  become more expensive, so we would be able to transfer that into ... because we put it

01:11:55.700 --> 01:12:02.340
-  in lines for the projects in the bonds, we could move it into the software line, and

01:12:02.340 --> 01:12:09.220
-  we're still meeting the intent of that bond.

01:12:09.220 --> 01:12:18.660
-  Sure, so to Councilor Hawke's point about your existing budget, is there a line in your

01:12:18.660 --> 01:12:23.020
-  budget that you could use to fund this?

01:12:23.020 --> 01:12:28.600
-  I haven't looked at your budget in a few months, so I don't remember what your options might

01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.940
-  be, just to be fair to Councilor Hawke's point.

01:12:31.940 --> 01:12:37.700
-  Sure, we have a million dollars appropriated in a software line that's in our cumulative

01:12:37.700 --> 01:12:47.620
-  capital fund, and that million dollars is spoken for, so this particular project is

01:12:47.620 --> 01:12:52.060
-  actually more than $500,000, and so I think it's like 50, and I don't remember off the

01:12:52.060 --> 01:12:58.100
-  top of my head, and we will take that from that particular line, and hoping that we're

01:12:58.100 --> 01:13:09.420
-  able to make things work, because we generally do make this fund work, but we don't have

01:13:09.420 --> 01:13:14.500
-  the capability of doing the full $500,000, so that's why we came to ask.

01:13:14.500 --> 01:13:17.500
-  Your choice.

01:13:17.500 --> 01:13:23.300
-  You remind me then when this will come back around to us, so will your budget for next

01:13:23.300 --> 01:13:26.500
-  year be in the software line $1.5 million?

01:13:26.500 --> 01:13:29.540
-  No, this is five years.

01:13:29.540 --> 01:13:37.140
-  So doing a $200,000 appropriation right now covers this need for five years.

01:13:37.140 --> 01:13:38.140
-  Correct.

01:13:38.140 --> 01:13:48.060
-  And if we, okay, so no matter where we take it from, the other part is coming from an

01:13:48.060 --> 01:13:55.300
-  old bond, and you mentioned that it was coming from rearranging from some things, and one

01:13:55.300 --> 01:14:01.700
-  of the things you mentioned was the clerk's office, and I'm curious as to, is that a project

01:14:01.700 --> 01:14:07.340
-  that then is no longer happening, and is the clerk aware of that?

01:14:07.340 --> 01:14:10.660
-  Clerk has not responded to any communications.

01:14:10.660 --> 01:14:16.740
-  Okay, but the clerk has been made aware via email or some other communication.

01:14:16.740 --> 01:14:21.340
-  I have not communicated this particular option.

01:14:21.340 --> 01:14:29.180
-  The commissioners, I don't know if they have contacted her regarding that, so no.

01:14:29.180 --> 01:14:34.300
-  So this could come as a surprise to the clerk that this project isn't going to happen?

01:14:34.300 --> 01:14:36.700
-  I don't think so.

01:14:36.700 --> 01:14:37.700
-  Okay.

01:14:37.700 --> 01:14:38.700
-  Okay.

01:14:38.700 --> 01:14:45.020
-  And again, like I said, the projects are not promised from the very beginning.

01:14:45.020 --> 01:14:46.020
-  They're recommended.

01:14:46.020 --> 01:14:49.420
-  They're the ideal, right, if we can get them all done.

01:14:49.420 --> 01:14:50.420
-  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:50.420 --> 01:15:00.420
-  Yeah, I just would hate to be less than transparent, yeah.

01:15:00.420 --> 01:15:09.140
-  Okay, so presumably you're asking for $200,000.

01:15:09.140 --> 01:15:15.460
-  Whether or not you're getting the rest of it from somewhere else is probably a relatively

01:15:15.460 --> 01:15:18.460
-  moot point on this particular request.

01:15:18.460 --> 01:15:33.740
-  So that brings me to my just putting forward that if we are going to do this, it looks

01:15:33.740 --> 01:15:43.260
-  as though the remit, the fund information for county general that you've provided, Michelle.

01:15:43.260 --> 01:15:51.220
-  Not accurate, the $17 million, I looked at it today and I provided it to Michelle, it's

01:15:51.220 --> 01:15:52.220
-  like 19.

01:15:52.220 --> 01:15:57.220
-  Do you have an update?

01:15:57.220 --> 01:15:58.220
-  Yes.

01:15:58.220 --> 01:15:59.220
-  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:59.220 --> 01:16:10.260
-  Yeah, so as of today, we have $19,842,646 as a cash balance.

01:16:10.260 --> 01:16:17.220
-  Okay, I was saying, I'm looking at your face, general fund, yes.

01:16:17.220 --> 01:16:23.220
-  Okay, it was in parentheses, which implied to me that it was negative and that was freaking

01:16:23.220 --> 01:16:24.220
-  me out.

01:16:24.220 --> 01:16:26.900
-  That's what you're saying, yeah.

01:16:26.900 --> 01:16:30.180
-  That might have just been our agenda, you know.

01:16:30.180 --> 01:16:36.460
-  Right, probably at that moment, and that, yeah, so that's why I read about it, yeah.

01:16:36.460 --> 01:16:37.460
-  Perfect, okay.

01:16:37.460 --> 01:16:38.460
-  Thank you.

01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:40.580
-  I have a moment.

01:16:40.580 --> 01:16:47.700
-  I want to remind council that rainy day is to be for emergency expenses only.

01:16:47.700 --> 01:16:54.440
-  So this would be above what we've already appropriated with regards to emergency expenses.

01:16:54.440 --> 01:17:04.340
-  So you would have to make sure, consider that, you know, that rainy day is for emergencies.

01:17:04.340 --> 01:17:05.340
-  All right.

01:17:05.340 --> 01:17:06.340
-  We've got some more hands raised here.

01:17:06.340 --> 01:17:07.740
-  Councilmember Henry, I saw yours next.

01:17:07.740 --> 01:17:10.140
-  Thanks, and maybe we already got at it.

01:17:10.140 --> 01:17:13.380
-  So the Councillor Hock brought up the CUME cap.

01:17:13.380 --> 01:17:16.060
-  What's the cash fund balance on CUME cap right now?

01:17:16.060 --> 01:17:17.060
-  I can tell you.

01:17:17.060 --> 01:17:18.060
-  The auditors got it.

01:17:18.060 --> 01:17:19.060
-  I'll just, that's okay, Angie.

01:17:19.060 --> 01:17:20.060
-  Cash balance as of today is $1,957,908.78.

01:17:20.060 --> 01:17:21.060
-  Further?

01:17:21.060 --> 01:17:22.060
-  No, I'm all right.

01:17:22.060 --> 01:17:23.060
-  All right.

01:17:23.060 --> 01:17:38.460
-  Councilmember Feidl.

01:17:38.460 --> 01:17:43.460
-  So I guess I have what I might call a fundamental question here.

01:17:43.460 --> 01:17:50.100
-  And so I hear you talk about this other $300,000, and so we're asking for this $200,000 now.

01:17:50.100 --> 01:17:56.620
-  So I guess I'm wondering what you can do with that $300,000 of the $500,000 you need.

01:17:56.620 --> 01:18:01.900
-  What would you be able to do with just $300,000 of it rather than the full $500,000?

01:18:01.900 --> 01:18:05.580
-  Would you be able to satisfy any of the things you're talking about, what the request is

01:18:05.580 --> 01:18:09.100
-  for with $300,000 that you've already made arrangements?

01:18:09.100 --> 01:18:16.260
-  It seems like you said you had money for $300,000 to apply to something, is that right?

01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:24.140
-  The bond in which there were different projects, and one of those projects isn't going to happen,

01:18:24.140 --> 01:18:30.540
-  and it's not going to happen because we're actually going to be moving into a new facility

01:18:30.540 --> 01:18:31.540
-  sooner than later.

01:18:31.540 --> 01:18:34.740
-  Originally it was going to be, everybody thought it was going to be like 10 years from now,

01:18:34.740 --> 01:18:41.500
-  but we are moving forward on our justice complex, and so to expend those dollars at this point

01:18:41.500 --> 01:18:52.860
-  in time would actually be by the county.

01:18:52.860 --> 01:19:01.520
-  And so instead of using it for a redo of an old office, those funds will go into a software

01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:09.060
-  line that was already in that bond and has already been expended to cover this other

01:19:09.060 --> 01:19:10.580
-  part of this cost.

01:19:10.580 --> 01:19:12.540
-  Does that make sense?

01:19:12.540 --> 01:19:16.900
-  It does, but it seems to me like if I could do the math, and I don't pretend to know everything

01:19:16.900 --> 01:19:21.820
-  about all those, how this works at this point in my political career, but I think that there's

01:19:21.820 --> 01:19:25.020
-  a $500,000 amount here total, is that right?

01:19:25.020 --> 01:19:29.020
-  You've got $300,000 from somewhere else in $200,000 now, is that not right?

01:19:29.020 --> 01:19:30.020
-  Correct.

01:19:30.020 --> 01:19:37.580
-  Okay, so what will the $300,000 be able to do for you for this type of project, or am

01:19:37.580 --> 01:19:39.580
-  I not understanding?

01:19:39.580 --> 01:19:41.500
-  It costs over $500,000.

01:19:41.500 --> 01:19:42.500
-  Right.

01:19:42.500 --> 01:19:44.140
-  $500,000, right?

01:19:44.140 --> 01:19:45.140
-  Yeah.

01:19:45.140 --> 01:19:49.460
-  Okay, so what will you get for the $300,000, I guess is my question.

01:19:49.460 --> 01:19:52.380
-  We will still pay interest on whatever is left.

01:19:52.380 --> 01:19:53.380
-  I don't...

01:19:53.380 --> 01:19:54.380
-  Okay.

01:19:54.380 --> 01:20:00.380
-  The way it was proposed to us is a five-year lease agreement or all up front, so I don't.

01:20:00.380 --> 01:20:01.860
-  I think I'm beginning to get it.

01:20:01.860 --> 01:20:02.860
-  Thank you.

01:20:02.860 --> 01:20:03.860
-  You're welcome.

01:20:03.860 --> 01:20:07.300
-  Okay, I'm going to go to Council Member Henry, and then I think our legal department has a

01:20:07.300 --> 01:20:08.300
-  comment.

01:20:08.300 --> 01:20:10.060
-  I'll pass in favor of legal department.

01:20:10.060 --> 01:20:13.900
-  All right, and then I'll go to Council Member Deckard, who had his hands raised previously.

01:20:13.900 --> 01:20:15.500
-  I'll yield to legal.

01:20:15.500 --> 01:20:16.500
-  Okay.

01:20:16.500 --> 01:20:17.980
-  All right, here we go.

01:20:17.980 --> 01:20:24.860
-  I just wanted to clarify, I wanted to clarify what the rainy day fund could be used for.

01:20:24.860 --> 01:20:30.420
-  According to Monroe County Code 27038, it's a little bit more expansive than just emergencies,

01:20:30.420 --> 01:20:36.580
-  because it's stated in there for any other use or purpose determined by the council.

01:20:36.580 --> 01:20:40.500
-  However, the money, if the money is an additional appropriation outside of the annual budget,

01:20:40.500 --> 01:20:43.700
-  it must be supported by a super majority, so two-thirds vote.

01:20:43.700 --> 01:20:46.820
-  So it's not just emergencies, it's a little bit more.

01:20:46.820 --> 01:20:47.820
-  Okay.

01:20:47.820 --> 01:20:53.120
-  I do have one question, I guess.

01:20:53.120 --> 01:20:57.660
-  So in terms of the options presented today, I guess, I know we've spent a little time

01:20:57.660 --> 01:20:58.660
-  talking about CUME-CAP.

01:20:58.660 --> 01:21:04.900
-  How did we arrive at these two choices as presented as options?

01:21:04.900 --> 01:21:08.060
-  What was the decision tree that got us to this point where we were looking at these

01:21:08.060 --> 01:21:10.380
-  two funds tonight specifically?

01:21:10.380 --> 01:21:21.460
-  Out to the board of commissioners and to you, the council, regarding this issue, and you

01:21:21.460 --> 01:21:30.220
-  all had an executive session to talk about this item, and I came back from my medical

01:21:30.220 --> 01:21:41.100
-  leave and reached out to see what the next steps were, and there had been no decision

01:21:41.100 --> 01:21:43.260
-  really come to about how to move forward.

01:21:43.260 --> 01:21:46.860
-  So I thought the best way to do that is to put it on your agenda.

01:21:46.860 --> 01:21:50.660
-  Yeah, I don't mean to shoot the messenger, so I'll take it that way.

01:21:50.660 --> 01:21:54.980
-  My question was specific to the two funds that were presented or proposed, but yeah,

01:21:54.980 --> 01:22:00.500
-  I get that you're in the chair and messaging for Mr. Crown, who's on leave on some of the

01:22:00.500 --> 01:22:01.500
-  particulars.

01:22:01.500 --> 01:22:02.500
-  So thank you.

01:22:02.500 --> 01:22:03.500
-  All right.

01:22:03.500 --> 01:22:04.500
-  Mr. Decker.

01:22:04.500 --> 01:22:10.180
-  I kind of want to pick up, and thanks for answering this and walking us through it again.

01:22:10.180 --> 01:22:15.660
-  I kind of want to pick up where Councilor Feidl left off and maybe go in a direction

01:22:15.660 --> 01:22:21.780
-  that she was either heading toward or could head to, but it provokes the question in me.

01:22:21.780 --> 01:22:27.660
-  We have sort of two options to fund the amount that is a remainder from what you've done

01:22:27.660 --> 01:22:32.020
-  to reconfigure with that existing bond money, and by the way, I want to say that any time

01:22:32.020 --> 01:22:38.980
-  we can look at any existing bond money and determine where that best goes first, I think

01:22:38.980 --> 01:22:44.580
-  it's a really powerful thing to do on behalf of the taxpayers, and I know that that's been

01:22:44.580 --> 01:22:49.700
-  something we've talked about a number of years.

01:22:49.700 --> 01:22:56.580
-  My question is, is there an additional possibility, because I believe the project, as I understand

01:22:56.580 --> 01:23:01.420
-  it, needs to move along, and it's due to move along.

01:23:01.420 --> 01:23:10.700
-  Is there a third potential option that 300,000 for services now and finance 200,000 later

01:23:10.700 --> 01:23:16.740
-  or revisit that they get to eat a bunch of apples versus a whole bunch of apples, and

01:23:16.740 --> 01:23:23.140
-  as a result, we kind of move down into additional time and can use dollars now for this?

01:23:23.140 --> 01:23:27.980
-  I don't know if that's something they could be asked, have been asked, or if I'm out of

01:23:27.980 --> 01:23:28.980
-  my mind.

01:23:28.980 --> 01:23:39.860
-  The provider offered two options, and that's where we have been from.

01:23:39.860 --> 01:23:53.500
-  I got reticent to wait, because they do know that this is before you today, but they're

01:23:53.500 --> 01:24:00.740
-  not going to be going with the full payment.

01:24:00.740 --> 01:24:07.500
-  The other option over five years is you do 100, so right now, out of that existing bond,

01:24:07.500 --> 01:24:14.460
-  we could do the 100, pay interest, do another 100 next year, pay interest, and on down the

01:24:14.460 --> 01:24:15.460
-  road we go.

01:24:15.460 --> 01:24:21.820
-  Of course, the risk to that always is, A, paying interest, and what have you.

01:24:21.820 --> 01:24:24.460
-  Okay, I'll stop my meandering question.

01:24:24.460 --> 01:24:32.460
-  It is a good question, though, and I was with you, counselor, if I can tell.

01:24:32.460 --> 01:24:33.780
-  All right.

01:24:33.780 --> 01:24:41.180
-  Any other questions to my left at this moment?

01:24:41.180 --> 01:24:46.940
-  I would like us to discuss which one we're doing.

01:24:46.940 --> 01:24:53.380
-  I mean, are we all considering an up-down vote on the general fund?

01:24:53.380 --> 01:24:57.300
-  It's just an odd motion, so I just need some clarity.

01:24:57.300 --> 01:25:04.260
-  I think you actually should vote on whether or not you want to pay in full.

01:25:04.260 --> 01:25:05.860
-  That makes sense.

01:25:05.860 --> 01:25:10.180
-  And let's go over to my right, Mr. Henry, and then I'll defer to my colleague, counselor

01:25:10.180 --> 01:25:11.180
-  Hawk online.

01:25:11.180 --> 01:25:12.180
-  All right.

01:25:12.180 --> 01:25:13.180
-  Thank you, Mr. Henry.

01:25:13.180 --> 01:25:14.180
-  Councilmember Hawk.

01:25:14.180 --> 01:25:23.260
-  Yes, I'm just wondering if we've all looked at the additional requests that commissioners

01:25:23.260 --> 01:25:30.980
-  have turned in recently and to look at that total and put this in with that entire total

01:25:30.980 --> 01:25:36.380
-  so that we can make a choice of what we can do about all these additionals that's coming

01:25:36.380 --> 01:25:40.020
-  in from the commissioner's office.

01:25:40.020 --> 01:25:46.660
-  I sent a message back earlier saying, do we have a total on what those are?

01:25:46.660 --> 01:25:49.420
-  Is there any reason why we have to make this decision tonight?

01:25:49.420 --> 01:25:54.860
-  Can we not look at the big picture to look at all the other requests that's coming in

01:25:54.860 --> 01:26:02.020
-  at our next meeting and then see what we can do?

01:26:02.020 --> 01:26:07.400
-  Thank you, Councilmember Hawk, offering us an alternative here.

01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:10.380
-  Any other questions or comments from council?

01:26:10.380 --> 01:26:12.660
-  Councilmember Henry, yes.

01:26:12.660 --> 01:26:14.340
-  Thank you, Mr. President.

01:26:14.340 --> 01:26:18.260
-  If I'm hearing the councilor right online, I would also entertain a motion to table until

01:26:18.260 --> 01:26:24.620
-  we can get clarity on either the additional possibility of the CUME cap as a source or

01:26:24.620 --> 01:26:29.700
-  just as you indicated there, I think waiting two more weeks on the project after potentially

01:26:29.700 --> 01:26:34.300
-  nine months of waiting would probably not harm us, so we can get a better answer on

01:26:34.300 --> 01:26:35.300
-  that.

01:26:35.300 --> 01:26:39.620
-  But I would support a motion to table if that's what I'm hearing online.

01:26:39.620 --> 01:26:42.820
-  Councilmember Wilts.

01:26:42.820 --> 01:26:46.620
-  I'm not opposed to tabling if that comes up.

01:26:46.620 --> 01:26:53.460
-  But I would like to know, is there any reason we shouldn't, couldn't, wouldn't consider

01:26:53.460 --> 01:26:54.740
-  CUME cap?

01:26:54.740 --> 01:27:10.940
-  And I'm asking people at this table.

01:27:10.940 --> 01:27:21.100
-  So just looking at the, I mean we currently have $3.8 million appropriation, $1.9 million

01:27:21.100 --> 01:27:22.100
-  fund balance.

01:27:22.100 --> 01:27:29.620
-  So I mean it's already relying on funding coming in.

01:27:29.620 --> 01:27:35.340
-  I mean we could watch the fund balance and we could always de-appropriate and appropriate

01:27:35.340 --> 01:27:36.340
-  elsewhere.

01:27:36.340 --> 01:27:42.700
-  There's always ways to go about it just depends on what actually gets expended.

01:27:42.700 --> 01:27:44.780
-  We always have reversions as we know.

01:27:44.780 --> 01:27:45.780
-  Right.

01:27:45.780 --> 01:27:46.780
-  Thanks.

01:27:46.780 --> 01:27:47.780
-  Council Member Deckard.

01:27:47.780 --> 01:27:53.500
-  I agree with Councilor Henry and I think the sentiment we picked up a little bit from Councilor

01:27:53.500 --> 01:27:54.500
-  Hawk.

01:27:54.500 --> 01:28:00.220
-  I think this is a classic scenario I said to one of our staff earlier today where council

01:28:00.220 --> 01:28:05.740
-  kind of sits around staring at each other like it's a strange wedding and I think probably

01:28:05.740 --> 01:28:07.120
-  a table is in order.

01:28:07.120 --> 01:28:13.460
-  So with that in mind, Council, I would move to table this to our next meeting.

01:28:13.460 --> 01:28:14.460
-  Second.

01:28:14.460 --> 01:28:15.460
-  Second.

01:28:15.460 --> 01:28:19.260
-  Do we need to withdraw the motion that was originally made?

01:28:19.260 --> 01:28:20.260
-  Okay.

01:28:20.260 --> 01:28:22.780
-  Thank you.

01:28:22.780 --> 01:28:31.020
-  If you're wanting to consider CUME-CAP, it won't be advertised for the next meeting.

01:28:31.020 --> 01:28:37.340
-  The earliest meeting I could get it would be for the April 22nd.

01:28:37.340 --> 01:28:40.340
-  Right.

01:28:40.340 --> 01:28:46.340
-  So I don't know if you'd want to table it to the April 22nd meeting so that you could

01:28:46.340 --> 01:28:53.380
-  also include a discussion with regards to using CUME-CAP.

01:28:53.380 --> 01:28:58.740
-  Mr. Deckard, would you like to update your motion with this new information?

01:28:58.740 --> 01:29:00.500
-  Here's the way I'm going to state this.

01:29:00.500 --> 01:29:06.020
-  I would like to move to table indefinitely for the following reason.

01:29:06.020 --> 01:29:11.980
-  If there is a reason we need to revisit the existing motion at the next meeting, we could.

01:29:11.980 --> 01:29:18.080
-  If there's a reason that the CUME-CAP advertisement needs to be done by the 22nd, either way then

01:29:18.080 --> 01:29:23.980
-  that is covered by that, and I think the council leadership at their discretion and consultation

01:29:23.980 --> 01:29:27.900
-  with staff and legal can help figure that out.

01:29:27.900 --> 01:29:30.100
-  I'll second the friendly amendment.

01:29:30.100 --> 01:29:31.100
-  All right.

01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:34.660
-  We have a motion with rationale and a second.

01:29:34.660 --> 01:29:41.460
-  Is there any other comments or questions with council on this motion?

01:29:41.460 --> 01:29:44.420
-  Seeing none, I will look to the public.

01:29:44.420 --> 01:29:49.240
-  Comments or questions come to Net-U-Hill or raise your hand on Teams.

01:29:49.240 --> 01:29:55.220
-  Seeing none, can we have a roll call vote on the motion?

01:29:55.220 --> 01:29:56.220
-  Councilor Feidl?

01:29:56.220 --> 01:29:57.220
-  Yes.

01:29:57.220 --> 01:29:58.220
-  Councilor Hawk?

01:29:58.220 --> 01:29:59.220
-  Yes.

01:29:59.220 --> 01:30:00.220
-  Councilor Henry?

01:30:00.220 --> 01:30:01.220
-  Yes.

01:30:01.220 --> 01:30:02.220
-  Councilor Deckard?

01:30:02.220 --> 01:30:03.220
-  Yes.

01:30:03.220 --> 01:30:04.220
-  Councilor Iverson?

01:30:04.220 --> 01:30:05.220
-  Yes.

01:30:05.220 --> 01:30:06.220
-  Councilor Wilts?

01:30:06.220 --> 01:30:07.220
-  Yes.

01:30:07.220 --> 01:30:08.220
-  Motion passes unanimous for table.

01:30:08.220 --> 01:30:09.220
-  Thank you.

01:30:09.220 --> 01:30:10.220
-  Thank you for being here.

01:30:10.220 --> 01:30:11.220
-  We look forward to working with you.

01:30:11.220 --> 01:30:12.220
-  I didn't mean it that way.

01:30:12.220 --> 01:30:13.220
-  I know you didn't.

01:30:13.220 --> 01:30:14.220
-  I know you didn't.

01:30:14.220 --> 01:30:17.980
-  I knew you were agreeing with me.

01:30:17.980 --> 01:30:18.980
-  All right.

01:30:18.980 --> 01:30:23.780
-  Let's move on to item number 12 from the council office.

01:30:23.780 --> 01:30:30.660
-  All right, council, as a reminder, due to a no vote at the March 11th meeting, this is

01:30:30.660 --> 01:30:33.540
-  the second reading for this request.

01:30:33.540 --> 01:30:39.020
-  I move to approve the public defender's request to approve the request of a knowledge skills

01:30:39.020 --> 01:30:46.540
-  and abilities KSA three-year level status, and to simultaneously amend the 2025 salary

01:30:46.540 --> 01:30:56.580
-  ordinance and fund 1200 dash 0000 supplemental PD services as outlined on the agenda.

01:30:56.580 --> 01:30:58.020
-  Second.

01:30:58.020 --> 01:31:02.660
-  We have a motion and a second and chief public defender Michael Hunt is with us here today

01:31:02.660 --> 01:31:03.700
-  with his staff.

01:31:03.700 --> 01:31:05.860
-  So would you like to kick us off?

01:31:05.860 --> 01:31:06.860
-  Yes.

01:31:06.860 --> 01:31:07.860
-  Thank you.

01:31:07.860 --> 01:31:08.860
-  Good evening.

01:31:08.860 --> 01:31:09.860
-  Can you hear me?

01:31:09.860 --> 01:31:10.860
-  Yes.

01:31:10.860 --> 01:31:16.940
-  With me tonight, I have Miss Amy Payne, who's a senior attorney in my office, and Heather

01:31:16.940 --> 01:31:20.100
-  Stufel, my administrative assistant.

01:31:20.100 --> 01:31:23.620
-  I would apologize for not being here last time when this first came up.

01:31:23.620 --> 01:31:25.960
-  I was out of the country.

01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:30.860
-  So if I misstate something, I won't feel bad if you correct me.

01:31:30.860 --> 01:31:39.260
-  It's my understanding this is the second hearing, and it's also my belief that for a change,

01:31:39.260 --> 01:31:42.260
-  we are not asking for more money.

01:31:42.260 --> 01:31:54.060
-  We're merely asking you to approve a potential employee being classified on a three-step level,

01:31:54.060 --> 01:31:59.620
-  which as I understand it, the counsel administrator and the personnel administrator has already

01:31:59.620 --> 01:32:08.460
-  determined that candidate does qualify.

01:32:08.460 --> 01:32:17.220
-  That was already budgeted for this year because the prior person was already at that level.

01:32:17.220 --> 01:32:29.980
-  In trying to explain that and talking about our lack of ability to hire attorneys, I was

01:32:29.980 --> 01:32:36.180
-  discussing that in the office, and Ms. Payne, who despite her youth is a senior attorney

01:32:36.180 --> 01:32:45.600
-  there and does the serious cases, asked if she could address the counsel with some of

01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.900
-  her concerns.

01:32:47.900 --> 01:32:53.900
-  With the counsel chairman's permission, I would ask that she be allowed to do that.

01:32:53.900 --> 01:32:58.220
-  I gladly would like to hear from the wise and Ms. Payne.

01:32:58.220 --> 01:32:59.940
-  Thank you.

01:32:59.940 --> 01:33:00.940
-  Okay.

01:33:00.940 --> 01:33:01.940
-  Yes.

01:33:01.940 --> 01:33:03.220
-  I'm a deputy public defender.

01:33:03.220 --> 01:33:09.460
-  I've been doing this for 14 years now, almost 15, and I work every day for the people of

01:33:09.460 --> 01:33:13.260
-  Monroe County, just like the people at the fire department, just like the people at the

01:33:13.260 --> 01:33:14.260
-  sheriff's department.

01:33:14.260 --> 01:33:19.380
-  I work on behalf of the citizens of Monroe County every single day.

01:33:19.380 --> 01:33:24.600
-  When I was here two weeks ago, I was not familiar with the process, and that's my own fault,

01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:29.620
-  and that's something I obviously am going to work on becoming more familiar, and I didn't

01:33:29.620 --> 01:33:36.020
-  realize that if it wasn't a unanimous vote that we would not be able to move forward,

01:33:36.020 --> 01:33:38.180
-  and that's my own fault.

01:33:38.180 --> 01:33:42.020
-  But because I didn't realize that, I didn't speak up, and I really kicked myself for the

01:33:42.020 --> 01:33:46.020
-  last couple weeks because I didn't, so I wanted to come back and make sure that I did speak

01:33:46.020 --> 01:33:49.420
-  up about what this actually means.

01:33:49.420 --> 01:33:56.980
-  So my clients, your all's constituents, they are not getting what they deserve right now

01:33:56.980 --> 01:34:00.200
-  from me, every single day they're not getting it.

01:34:00.200 --> 01:34:06.420
-  And that's because the Constitution guarantees them adequate representation, and I don't

01:34:06.420 --> 01:34:12.660
-  believe because I have to pick up the cases when we don't have enough attorneys working

01:34:12.660 --> 01:34:19.380
-  in our office, my clients are not getting what they deserve of me, they're not.

01:34:19.380 --> 01:34:23.580
-  Every attorney in our office has to pick up the slack when we don't have enough attorneys

01:34:23.580 --> 01:34:28.480
-  and when we can't hire attorneys and when we can't hire a person at a level that they

01:34:28.480 --> 01:34:30.740
-  deserve to be paid at.

01:34:30.740 --> 01:34:38.220
-  And so the last two weeks, there has been a harm every single day of the last two weeks

01:34:38.220 --> 01:34:40.640
-  waiting.

01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:47.780
-  And so by Councilwoman Hawk voting no on the KSA request, there has been every day a tangible

01:34:47.780 --> 01:34:52.500
-  harm, especially when there's no fiscal impact to the county.

01:34:52.500 --> 01:34:57.660
-  This is not asking for a raise, we are not asking for more money, and it's doing a disservice

01:34:57.660 --> 01:34:59.980
-  to the people that we all serve.

01:34:59.980 --> 01:35:05.700
-  So I don't anticipate that Councilwoman Hawkins is going to change her vote tonight, I just

01:35:05.700 --> 01:35:13.340
-  want to make sure that it's clear that that vote has caused me, my coworkers, and my clients

01:35:13.340 --> 01:35:18.740
-  more strife than is necessary with no benefit to the county whatsoever.

01:35:18.740 --> 01:35:21.140
-  Thank you.

01:35:21.140 --> 01:35:23.740
-  I will take questions if you have any.

01:35:23.740 --> 01:35:24.860
-  All right.

01:35:24.860 --> 01:35:27.820
-  Thank you both for speaking, we appreciate hearing from you.

01:35:27.820 --> 01:35:28.820
-  Look to my left.

01:35:28.820 --> 01:35:29.820
-  Any questions or comments?

01:35:29.820 --> 01:35:32.020
-  Councilmember Deckard, and we'll go down the line.

01:35:32.020 --> 01:35:37.620
-  Just a point of information to clarify for all of us and the folks at home tonight, simple

01:35:37.620 --> 01:35:41.580
-  majority gets us this resolved and on down we go.

01:35:41.580 --> 01:35:42.580
-  Is that correct?

01:35:42.580 --> 01:35:43.580
-  All right.

01:35:43.580 --> 01:35:44.580
-  Thank you.

01:35:44.580 --> 01:35:45.580
-  Councilmember Wilts.

01:35:45.580 --> 01:35:54.980
-  I wanted to make that point as well and to thank you for speaking because I know that's

01:35:54.980 --> 01:36:04.920
-  not an easy thing to do and I hear you and I appreciate not just that you've said it

01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:09.940
-  but what you said.

01:36:09.940 --> 01:36:21.660
-  All right, Councilmember Hawk, you're muted.

01:36:21.660 --> 01:36:22.660
-  Almost there.

01:36:22.660 --> 01:36:23.660
-  Okay.

01:36:23.660 --> 01:36:24.660
-  Got it.

01:36:24.660 --> 01:36:31.500
-  I just want to make the point and I'm sorry it caused anybody any hardship but there's

01:36:31.500 --> 01:36:38.260
-  a lot of hardship going on here in county government and it's going to be for some time.

01:36:38.260 --> 01:36:45.860
-  I didn't make that $3.8 million mistake but I think each of us need to see where we can

01:36:45.860 --> 01:36:53.100
-  possibly try to live within what has to be a reduced budget because of reduced revenue

01:36:53.100 --> 01:37:00.900
-  in my opinion and so it was not particularly this department.

01:37:00.900 --> 01:37:06.980
-  I just think we should stop the KSA thing altogether until we see where we're going

01:37:06.980 --> 01:37:16.060
-  to be on this budget and revenue coming in but clearly it's only the first go.

01:37:16.060 --> 01:37:21.980
-  I can say no but what it does it just delays everything.

01:37:21.980 --> 01:37:29.400
-  So I can either like go along and just say yes to everything or I can say look we've

01:37:29.400 --> 01:37:36.300
-  got to start looking at our dollars and I regret that a department thinks that it doesn't

01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:40.980
-  matter if they've already got something else budgeted high they can just use that money

01:37:40.980 --> 01:37:41.980
-  anyway.

01:37:41.980 --> 01:37:46.620
-  If they didn't use that money that money would go back into county general to help us all

01:37:46.620 --> 01:37:48.700
-  get through.

01:37:48.700 --> 01:37:56.020
-  That used to be understood by all and it appears that's not no longer understood but I wish

01:37:56.020 --> 01:38:02.900
-  you well I really when I looked at the applicant I thought if we're going to do KSA well of

01:38:02.900 --> 01:38:09.580
-  course that person is qualified but in my opinion I think we should stop it.

01:38:09.580 --> 01:38:16.420
-  So there we go sorry you had a tough time we've all had a tough time.

01:38:16.420 --> 01:38:22.700
-  Right any other comments from council yes Mr. Henry.

01:38:22.700 --> 01:38:27.300
-  Thank you Mr. President I just want to thank you for your comments clearly decisions in

01:38:27.300 --> 01:38:32.420
-  this room have real world impact and I can't imagine how many clients of the county's public

01:38:32.420 --> 01:38:35.640
-  defenders office had to meander through a few weeks here.

01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:40.340
-  So I take your words to heart these are real world situations we're talking about they're

01:38:40.340 --> 01:38:45.300
-  not abstractions on a line and when we are not surgical about our approach it creates

01:38:45.300 --> 01:38:51.740
-  problems but I just wanted to say thank you for sharing thank you Mr. President.

01:38:51.740 --> 01:38:59.220
-  Right I also thank you all for coming as someone who also ruminates over things said and unsaid

01:38:59.220 --> 01:39:07.380
-  I appreciate the candor and coming forward and speaking thank you alright at this point

01:39:07.380 --> 01:39:12.020
-  I will ask for any public comments if you have any public comment please come to the

01:39:12.020 --> 01:39:22.340
-  podium or raise your hand on teams seeing none may we have a roll call vote.

01:39:22.340 --> 01:39:32.940
-  Councilor Fiddle yes Councilor Henry yes Councilor Wilts yes Councilor Hawk no Councilor Iverson

01:39:32.940 --> 01:39:41.900
-  yes Councilor Deckard yes motion passes majority five to one thank you very much you're welcome

01:39:41.900 --> 01:39:44.700
-  thank you what you do.

01:39:44.700 --> 01:39:49.980
-  All right we reached that point in the agenda where it's time for county councilors to update

01:39:49.980 --> 01:39:57.340
-  the public on their liaison ships and or any other comments they would like to make I'm

01:39:57.340 --> 01:40:02.100
-  going to start with on the far left here Councilor Fiddle.

01:40:02.100 --> 01:40:08.780
-  I'm ready with my color coded notes oh my goodness that seems to be drawing a lot of

01:40:08.780 --> 01:40:19.180
-  attention these days all right let's see it so first of all I don't have a specific liaison

01:40:19.180 --> 01:40:26.140
-  assignment with visit Bloomington however they made a presentation at a DBI meeting which

01:40:26.140 --> 01:40:32.700
-  is my purview and I thought I wanted to share publicly some of these things that they shared

01:40:32.700 --> 01:40:37.740
-  from their annual report which I found very interesting that the public may want to know

01:40:37.740 --> 01:40:39.620
-  about.

01:40:39.620 --> 01:40:50.780
-  For instance so this is titled what had the most impact in 2024 IU football was 60 million

01:40:50.780 --> 01:40:58.160
-  dollars in estimated football economic impact the solar eclipse 90 percent lodging occupancy

01:40:58.160 --> 01:41:06.820
-  Sunday through Monday during that event Airbnb short-term rental bookings grew by 27 percent

01:41:06.820 --> 01:41:14.940
-  in 2024 visitors spend over a hundred and fifty million on food in Monroe County every

01:41:14.940 --> 01:41:26.620
-  year and then in each of these categories it goes up the the numbers go up so from 2020

01:41:26.620 --> 01:41:34.220
-  through 2023 the amount the visitors spent ranged from 309 million to 509 million in

01:41:34.220 --> 01:41:43.820
-  a four-year or four-year period wages generated same time period 114 million to 191 million

01:41:43.820 --> 01:41:52.780
-  job supported ranged from 4,700 to 20 or excuse me to 7,800 the tax receipts generated both

01:41:52.780 --> 01:42:04.140
-  state and local went from 54 million to 90 million and then going on to economic and

01:42:04.140 --> 01:42:10.500
-  impact of tourism for every hundred dollars spent by visitor in Monroe County over a third

01:42:10.500 --> 01:42:17.840
-  of all food and beverage revenue in Monroe County is generated by visitors the 20 percent

01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:26.220
-  of lodging rooms purchased in Monroe County in 2024 were short-term rentals a couple more

01:42:26.220 --> 01:42:37.620
-  things here so this this topic is the sports travel marketing 17% of our visitors here

01:42:37.620 --> 01:42:44.100
-  are here to watch or participate in sports and then they just wanted to feature also

01:42:44.100 --> 01:42:52.900
-  the cars farm park investment and that begins in 2025 and visit Bloomington is already partnering

01:42:52.900 --> 01:42:57.640
-  with Monroe County Parks and Rec on that effort so that's all from visit Bloomington which

01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:06.220
-  I know you can find on there well for their that report for 2024 tourism report now on

01:43:06.220 --> 01:43:12.180
-  to my other service with liaison assignments I met with the Youth Services Bureau learned

01:43:12.180 --> 01:43:21.040
-  a lot there the ages they serve 10 to 17 at no cost they have a safe place program 24/7

01:43:21.040 --> 01:43:28.060
-  and that operates for people or young folks between 8 and 22 they have Bloomington after

01:43:28.060 --> 01:43:35.500
-  school network youth youth worker cafes building a thriving and compassionate community and

01:43:35.500 --> 01:43:39.980
-  then leadership opportunities for young folks there's Monroe County Youth Council plus the

01:43:39.980 --> 01:43:46.340
-  Youth Advisory Board and they also have programs that are community based for counseling and

01:43:46.340 --> 01:43:55.340
-  community based programming then the City Economic Development Commission meeting I attended as

01:43:55.340 --> 01:44:02.580
-  a council rep we made a recommendation for two resolutions that will come up at the City

01:44:02.580 --> 01:44:13.460
-  Council regarding Gene B Glick's purchase of and they'll be rehabbing the projects both

01:44:13.460 --> 01:44:21.700
-  at Cambridge Square on North Pete Ellis Drive which is 153 units as well as Henderson Court

01:44:21.700 --> 01:44:30.240
-  150 units which is on Winslow Court and then both of the rehab projects the developer will

01:44:30.240 --> 01:44:35.580
-  apply for low income housing tax credits so that seems like some good low income housing

01:44:35.580 --> 01:44:45.420
-  news my assignment is not with the highway engineer however I I met with the highway

01:44:45.420 --> 01:44:51.080
-  engineer Lisa ridge because I hadn't met her yet in my capacity and I wanted to see the

01:44:51.080 --> 01:44:58.540
-  facility and speak with her she was very generous in her time and I learned that they have 59

01:44:58.540 --> 01:45:06.940
-  employees 80% are male 20% are female 42 or highway employees five or bridge 12 stormwater

01:45:06.940 --> 01:45:12.620
-  and I got to see this special new system that they use for brining when they put down that

01:45:12.620 --> 01:45:19.140
-  to apply to help with the roads before any sort of inclement weather with no they can

01:45:19.140 --> 01:45:30.700
-  apply about 260 miles worth of brine in about two days before and the one of the last thing

01:45:30.700 --> 01:45:36.180
-  last couple of things I did was the Monroe County Women's Commission meeting they are

01:45:36.180 --> 01:45:43.360
-  developing a policy equity rubric which is almost complete and and so they're working

01:45:43.360 --> 01:45:49.760
-  on getting some more professional feedback on that and it'll be shared with county and

01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:56.180
-  local governments businesses community organizations they're also doing outreach to elevate the

01:45:56.180 --> 01:46:01.620
-  profile of the Women's Commission plus for each meeting coming up in 2025 there'll be

01:46:01.620 --> 01:46:06.780
-  a different topic it could be anything ranging from wages to health care to a variety of

01:46:06.780 --> 01:46:15.780
-  others the downtown Bloomington group they are doing a downtown strategies group session

01:46:15.780 --> 01:46:21.360
-  there'll be a market visit workshop in July of this year a strategic plan presentation

01:46:21.360 --> 01:46:28.100
-  in October of this year and then with the result of a five-year strategic action plan

01:46:28.100 --> 01:46:35.180
-  with which will come up with 20 to 30 strategies and recommendations and that's all councilmember

01:46:35.180 --> 01:46:41.900
-  vital would you hold up your notebook to the camera just just so that your constituents

01:46:41.900 --> 01:46:51.420
-  know they are getting what they voted for all right at a request we're going to go to

01:46:51.420 --> 01:46:57.820
-  mr. Deckard next my gosh don't ask me to hold up my notes that is I'm so glad that we have

01:46:57.820 --> 01:47:03.580
-  our new counselors on here to join us in this effort they strengthen us I've got just three

01:47:03.580 --> 01:47:08.060
-  quick ones that I will announce and I appreciate these reports us going back to it I kind of

01:47:08.060 --> 01:47:15.180
-  wish that I had had us doing this last year this is awesome but I spent a little time

01:47:15.180 --> 01:47:20.940
-  also with county highway along with counselor hawk we spent some time last Friday morning

01:47:20.940 --> 01:47:28.580
-  with Lisa Ridge and Toby Turner talking about some of the realities that they are facing

01:47:28.580 --> 01:47:33.780
-  out there and hearing about the good work that they do one thing that highway does exceedingly

01:47:33.780 --> 01:47:38.780
-  well as they figure out how to bring dollars into this county and they have the hot hand

01:47:38.780 --> 01:47:45.820
-  at it and if you go up to Indianapolis and say Lisa Ridge in the halls of the state house

01:47:45.820 --> 01:47:52.140
-  you get smiles and I'm not sure all of us get smiles when we go up there so awesome

01:47:52.140 --> 01:47:57.920
-  work that they do I also spent this morning with the Elstville Chamber of Commerce it's

01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:03.700
-  not technically a liaison ship but they invited me to come out and to meet with their policy

01:48:03.700 --> 01:48:08.420
-  committee and counselors I expect that others of you and other county elected officials

01:48:08.420 --> 01:48:13.820
-  will be having similar invitations and we talked a lot about mostly about what they

01:48:13.820 --> 01:48:19.740
-  wanted to talk about current events related to issues facing our community in our county

01:48:19.740 --> 01:48:25.620
-  and Elstville continues to be a community that is seeing tremendous growth and they're

01:48:25.620 --> 01:48:32.240
-  seeing a lot of change and we also at a county have a lot of change that we are going to

01:48:32.240 --> 01:48:38.180
-  be facing down ourselves we talked about recent population discussions the impact that that

01:48:38.180 --> 01:48:44.760
-  has on us and how as elected officials and other concerned business leaders and community

01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:50.740
-  members we need to be thinking about it the last thing that I just by the way also last

01:48:50.740 --> 01:48:55.460
-  night I spent some time I get a lot of these I don't know if other counselors do but I

01:48:55.460 --> 01:49:02.620
-  had a visit with the grand view scout we below I'm a grand view tiger myself it was good

01:49:02.620 --> 01:49:07.580
-  to meet these new tigers and particularly to hear about their activities and I have

01:49:07.580 --> 01:49:12.860
-  to tell you they had as many hard questions for me as they also chambered it this morning

01:49:12.860 --> 01:49:19.280
-  and that didn't diminish either group so they asked good questions and much like the folks

01:49:19.280 --> 01:49:24.100
-  that we saw at the beginning of our meeting is always awesome to see folks that are doing

01:49:24.100 --> 01:49:28.300
-  something serving something when they could be doing anything else but to give giving

01:49:28.300 --> 01:49:34.220
-  back finally I'll mention this not to steal anything from our liaisons that work with

01:49:34.220 --> 01:49:40.780
-  the clerk and the election board but council had reminded earlier that there is a vote

01:49:40.780 --> 01:49:46.620
-  center plan hearing on April 3rd at 1 30 p.m. I assume that's here in the Natu Hill room

01:49:46.620 --> 01:49:53.740
-  correct correct so for folks that either want to learn about both centers or weigh in on

01:49:53.740 --> 01:49:56.940
-  both centers because you have strong thoughts I know a lot of us have different thoughts

01:49:56.940 --> 01:50:02.340
-  on that this would be a chance to weigh in on a proposed draft plan and I am anxious

01:50:02.340 --> 01:50:07.180
-  to see that myself I don't know if a advance copy gets out but I would love to see that

01:50:07.180 --> 01:50:11.020
-  as you all may recall from my time at the state I was co-director of the state election

01:50:11.020 --> 01:50:15.860
-  vision when both centers were first legally authorized and I'd love to see what this plan

01:50:15.860 --> 01:50:20.940
-  looks like for the community and county and figure out what's best for us and the draft

01:50:20.940 --> 01:50:27.340
-  plan is available on the election website this is going to be the first of two public hearings

01:50:27.340 --> 01:50:32.100
-  so at this public hearing they'll receive the draft plan and there'll be a presentation

01:50:32.100 --> 01:50:39.140
-  on it it will be the start of a 30 at least a 30-day public comment period where the public

01:50:39.140 --> 01:50:45.420
-  can provide written comment and details on how the election board will receive that written

01:50:45.420 --> 01:50:51.740
-  public comment will be determined at that first public hearing and then after the 30-day public

01:50:51.740 --> 01:50:59.740
-  comment period closes there'll be a second public hearing so really because vote center

01:50:59.740 --> 01:51:06.720
-  law in the state allows that plan to tell you how it's going to be to put it no blunder

01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:12.180
-  than that if you wonder how it's going to be for members of the public this would be

01:51:12.180 --> 01:51:17.900
-  a good chance to see this and this is a powerful and can be really good device but this is

01:51:17.900 --> 01:51:22.620
-  your chance to see that hopefully maybe ask some questions and then we all can weigh in

01:51:22.620 --> 01:51:28.500
-  so that's all the reporting I have thank you so much mr. Henry thank you mr. president

01:51:28.500 --> 01:51:33.060
-  and thank you counselor Deckard for covering that for me so I could talk about other stuff

01:51:33.060 --> 01:51:38.260
-  but I will also say that is the it's a busy week in the board of elections as the public

01:51:38.260 --> 01:51:43.180
-  hearing will happen and it's the regular meeting that week on a Thursday I think that's not

01:51:43.180 --> 01:51:47.100
-  the first Thursday are we gonna miss it how what's the sequence there Molly public hearing

01:51:47.100 --> 01:51:52.940
-  is scheduled during the regular meeting of the election so it is my impression that the

01:51:52.940 --> 01:51:56.820
-  public hearing will take place I don't know if they have regular agenda items for that

01:51:56.820 --> 01:52:00.980
-  day or not well then I stand corrected and yeah there you go that's why Trent covered

01:52:00.980 --> 01:52:04.100
-  it today all right I have some other things I like to chat about in terms of my liaison

01:52:04.100 --> 01:52:11.580
-  stuff first I want to offer a bit of accommodation to our Board of Health as well as Commissioner

01:52:11.580 --> 01:52:16.380
-  Madeira and some members of the public that alerted us to an issue in our health department

01:52:16.380 --> 01:52:22.900
-  late last Friday of a family was seeking a gender change on a birth certificate and at

01:52:22.900 --> 01:52:28.380
-  our public health department which is under was under a court order to do so there was

01:52:28.380 --> 01:52:32.500
-  some confusion based on the governor's executive orders on whether or not our locality could

01:52:32.500 --> 01:52:39.000
-  actually execute on those changes but as Commissioner Madeira had made it clear in local media that

01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:43.060
-  we will follow court orders in this county whether or not they go to Indianapolis and

01:52:43.060 --> 01:52:48.480
-  they're handled correctly will be up to litigation but I'm very proud that our Board of Health

01:52:48.480 --> 01:52:53.420
-  got together quickly I made it clear that for our transgender community we're not turning

01:52:53.420 --> 01:52:57.340
-  folks away at our public health department even if the state does so thank you for that

01:52:57.340 --> 01:53:04.500
-  good work and swift work in our community to represent our values secondly is I wanted

01:53:04.500 --> 01:53:08.980
-  to also share with the surveyors office while I was aware of mr. and right Randolph's proposal

01:53:08.980 --> 01:53:15.140
-  this evening which is a no-cost solution to provide a training in the county for surveyors

01:53:15.140 --> 01:53:19.060
-  who'll obviously tell us more about that next time we see him here I also did get a look

01:53:19.060 --> 01:53:24.500
-  at the dashboard that GIS specialist dr. Baten is working on for the auditor in terms of

01:53:24.500 --> 01:53:28.900
-  what the dashboarding of our budget looks like it is going to be wonderful to play with

01:53:28.900 --> 01:53:32.920
-  I don't want to give away any data previews on it but I was I walked away understanding

01:53:32.920 --> 01:53:37.500
-  that our criminal justice budget the slice of the pie is actually larger than the the

01:53:37.500 --> 01:53:43.180
-  talking point I usually say a 50% it's more like 62.5 but it's in there and it's a it's

01:53:43.180 --> 01:53:47.380
-  a really cool gadget so I look forward to seeing that now when we get that live that

01:53:47.380 --> 01:53:53.540
-  I got a preview so anyway there's that second comment I wanted to raise to the council's

01:53:53.540 --> 01:54:00.580
-  attention some work that was done on the plan commission this past week to vote on a split

01:54:00.580 --> 01:54:05.660
-  vote positive recommendation for the down zoning of parcels that have been long designated

01:54:05.660 --> 01:54:10.780
-  as high higher density parcels within the islands and the city of Bloomington their

01:54:10.780 --> 01:54:16.340
-  county property that was a 62 vote which I would just indicate that myself and the other

01:54:16.340 --> 01:54:20.260
-  elected official trying to write Randolph that were on the plan commission voted in

01:54:20.260 --> 01:54:26.340
-  the negative to make a recommendation to commissioners their meeting is on Thursday on that I will

01:54:26.340 --> 01:54:31.300
-  just say for the record that when we remove opportunities to restore and revitalize our

01:54:31.300 --> 01:54:36.500
-  community and especially in economically depressed areas we lose housing choices we lose the

01:54:36.500 --> 01:54:39.680
-  property rights of parcel owners that live there and how they can use their property

01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:44.340
-  that they purchased and ultimately lose the abilities of county to improve our ability

01:54:44.340 --> 01:54:50.180
-  to raise revenue off of parcels to help and share the tax burden in the community so this

01:54:50.180 --> 01:54:55.320
-  is not a settled issue or a partisan issue in the county where one party thinks this

01:54:55.320 --> 01:54:59.220
-  is appropriate and the other does not it is definitely a contentious issue for our body

01:54:59.220 --> 01:55:05.000
-  on how we approach zoning in the urbanized area and the fringe but I've said my piece

01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:09.420
-  about it tonight lastly I want to thank the jail commander for the opportunity to tour

01:55:09.420 --> 01:55:14.180
-  the jail last week and get my look in there I've been in there since Sheriff Kennedy was

01:55:14.180 --> 01:55:18.440
-  in office when I worked for the county 18 years ago and I just want to commend the sheriff

01:55:18.440 --> 01:55:22.180
-  Marte and the staff for the cleanup in there and the paint and the good work they do to

01:55:22.180 --> 01:55:26.860
-  maintain the facility we have while we try to figure out next steps and just want to

01:55:26.860 --> 01:55:31.620
-  share with Councillor Wills I did match your full shift with the deputy this week as well

01:55:31.620 --> 01:55:37.120
-  and got to ride with Sergeant Molden who is a chatterbox like myself and so we had a very

01:55:37.120 --> 01:55:42.100
-  fast eight hours driving around the county talking about all sorts of things I do want

01:55:42.100 --> 01:55:45.660
-  to say one more thing with the time I have we did talk about adult protective service

01:55:45.660 --> 01:55:50.920
-  tonight as one of our items I wasn't intending to talk about this but on one of our runs

01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:56.420
-  we did do a visit to a household out in Harrodsburg where there's an individual that needs checking

01:55:56.420 --> 01:56:00.060
-  on and it turns out when we don't have good APS our sheriff's deputies are the ones that

01:56:00.060 --> 01:56:04.460
-  are doing it and it's something to keep in mind when we think about the totality of how

01:56:04.460 --> 01:56:08.520
-  we're using our services here and what we fund and how we fund it so that's a lot Mr.

01:56:08.520 --> 01:56:11.580
-  President but there you go thank you very much.

01:56:11.580 --> 01:56:18.260
-  All right thank you Mr. Henry. Council Member Hawk would you like to share any updates?

01:56:18.260 --> 01:56:34.820
-  Yes I certainly would. Today in the Tax and Fiscal Committee the House Bill 1080 was discussed

01:56:34.820 --> 01:56:42.500
-  and torn apart and put back together and in a lot of different methods. You'll want to

01:56:42.500 --> 01:56:52.940
-  check Amendment 13 and to check the entire bill because it is changed dramatically but

01:56:52.940 --> 01:57:02.940
-  it was clear that they made it clear and because the County Commissioners are unwilling to

01:57:02.940 --> 01:57:12.860
-  work with Ellitsville in order to assist getting transportation for the most needy, the aged,

01:57:12.860 --> 01:57:22.620
-  the people with disabilities to be able to get to their appointments. It appears this

01:57:22.620 --> 01:57:28.620
-  is not going to go through as we had hoped it would. When I say we I'm not saying the

01:57:28.620 --> 01:57:34.860
-  majority of the council but certainly when we're talking about our senior citizens, whether

01:57:34.860 --> 01:57:39.180
-  or not they're covered, whether or not we care what happens to them, then we should

01:57:39.180 --> 01:57:45.180
-  be caring also if we're doing what we can do to assist getting them from point A to

01:57:45.180 --> 01:57:52.740
-  point B. And so I'm disappointed that the County Commissioners are not willing to work

01:57:52.740 --> 01:57:59.940
-  with our other communities and community partners to be able to see what we can do to address

01:57:59.940 --> 01:58:09.500
-  that. So that's very worrisome. The other thing that we have to look at is we know that

01:58:09.500 --> 01:58:19.820
-  many changes are going to be made, many. And so we're not in a position to be able to make

01:58:19.820 --> 01:58:26.300
-  long-range plans until we know what's happening at the state. And the taxpayers have made

01:58:26.300 --> 01:58:37.300
-  it clear they want an adjustment to their taxes. So we just have to have to be as prepared

01:58:37.300 --> 01:58:44.220
-  as we can be. Now, we know that we were we are looking toward changing what's going on

01:58:44.220 --> 01:58:51.660
-  in the health department. But it appears that indeed that budget, it looks like as if that

01:58:51.660 --> 01:58:57.820
-  for the state now that to be able to send to everyone is going to be cut. It looked

01:58:57.820 --> 01:59:05.640
-  like 50 million over a two-year period of time. And the state's revenue is way reduced

01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:12.580
-  as well, or at least they think it will be. They won't know until they've got their estimate

01:59:12.580 --> 01:59:22.020
-  of revenue before they can really make this decision. But we know that Senate Bill 1 had

01:59:22.020 --> 01:59:32.100
-  a lot of changes. And we also know that Representative Thompson is working on that 1402 to get

01:59:32.100 --> 01:59:32.680
-  those

01:59:32.680 --> 01:59:38.860
-  numbers to them and change the way the whole system is supposed to be working. And we just

01:59:38.860 --> 01:59:44.060
-  have to leave our minds open. And right now, I'd like for us to be able to tread water

01:59:44.060 --> 01:59:51.340
-  and just get by until we hear what is going to happen. And remember, every time we think

01:59:51.340 --> 01:59:57.140
-  it's less money for the county, it might just be that it makes more money for those people

01:59:57.140 --> 02:00:01.900
-  that we represent, the taxpayers. So thank you.

02:00:01.900 --> 02:00:11.220
-  >> All right. Let's go to Councillor Wilts. >> Thank you. And thank you for skipping me

02:00:11.220 --> 02:00:16.820
-  and coming back. I was super intimidated by the color-coded sheet to my left and I didn't

02:00:16.820 --> 02:00:28.140
-  know what to do with myself. In terms of updates from my liaison ships, I -- is that a word

02:00:28.140 --> 02:00:32.740
-  or liaison ship? >> It sure is.

02:00:32.740 --> 02:00:39.960
-  >> Sounds so weird. I'm liaison to the auditor's office and I don't know if you all have noticed

02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:43.660
-  the past couple of weeks there have been a flurry of emails from our internal auditor

02:00:43.660 --> 02:00:53.220
-  about assets and handling of assets. And I just want to commend them on really looking

02:00:53.220 --> 02:01:04.140
-  carefully and closely at how the real -- or the assets are handled within the county.

02:01:04.140 --> 02:01:12.020
-  You know, it's not something that is maybe the most sexy topic for everyone to be following

02:01:12.020 --> 02:01:20.620
-  along with, but it's a lot of work. And really making sure that we're following the law and

02:01:20.620 --> 02:01:24.540
-  doing what we need to do with those sorts of things is important. So I wanted to send

02:01:24.540 --> 02:01:30.540
-  out some kudos to the auditor's office on that. In addition, the waste reduction district

02:01:30.540 --> 02:01:37.820
-  is doing some really cool planning around the potential for -- and super early stages

02:01:37.820 --> 02:01:45.820
-  - but the potential for solar out at the old landfill. So we're getting some free technical

02:01:45.820 --> 02:01:51.620
-  assistance right now on the planning stages of what that could look like and how -- who

02:01:51.620 --> 02:01:58.380
-  we could partner with to make that happen. So that's pretty exciting. One other thing

02:01:58.380 --> 02:02:06.140
-  I wanted to just say, and then I promise we can end the meeting, but several times in

02:02:06.140 --> 02:02:14.780
-  this meeting the concept of caring for one another came up. And I think it's important

02:02:14.780 --> 02:02:21.740
-  for us to really pause and remember that that's an essential function of why we're here. It's

02:02:21.740 --> 02:02:31.140
-  an essential function of government. And as we go forth, and even as members of the public,

02:02:31.140 --> 02:02:34.940
-  caring for each other is fundamental. And if we don't hang on to that, especially in

02:02:34.940 --> 02:02:46.300
-  these times, I think we run the risk of really falling apart individually and collectively.

02:02:46.300 --> 02:02:53.500
-  And so I would encourage folks to just really think on that concept. I was in a meeting

02:02:53.500 --> 02:02:59.460
-  last week, walked out of this building, and on the corner there were folks demonstrating

02:02:59.460 --> 02:03:05.820
-  about the fact that the Medicaid waiver funding is under threat and people don't typically

02:03:05.820 --> 02:03:13.700
-  really understand how Medicaid waiver works. I don't fully, but it's not just about money

02:03:13.700 --> 02:03:25.260
-  for people who don't have resources. The waiver funding is what undergirds supports for people

02:03:25.260 --> 02:03:38.140
-  with disabilities, and it provides services for a huge proportion of our population who

02:03:38.140 --> 02:03:46.960
-  need services just to get through day-to-day activities. I'm reminded that that's under

02:03:46.960 --> 02:03:53.340
-  threat by our state. Adult protective services funding has been revoked apparently and doesn't

02:03:53.340 --> 02:04:01.920
-  have something in place yet. These are threats to how we care for each other in government,

02:04:01.920 --> 02:04:11.180
-  and I know we're facing an uncertain future. Councilor Hawk pointed out we've got a lot

02:04:11.180 --> 02:04:18.300
-  coming down at us from the state, and I think that we're taking measures to address those

02:04:18.300 --> 02:04:26.420
-  anticipated difficulties, those anticipated harms even, but not all harms are equal. And

02:04:26.420 --> 02:04:31.220
-  I don't think it's appropriate to justify our actions by drawing false equivalencies,

02:04:31.220 --> 02:04:41.660
-  and when someone is in our presence and expresses that harm has been done, it is not our place

02:04:41.660 --> 02:04:50.300
-  to put a value on their harm. It's our place as council to plan for and account for real

02:04:50.300 --> 02:04:57.980
-  and anticipated challenges, and I think that's why we have halted considerations of new positions

02:04:57.980 --> 02:05:03.780
-  that have monetary impact, but as we move forward this year we're going to face a lot

02:05:03.780 --> 02:05:08.740
-  of decisions around funding and not funding, and wherever we land I just hope that we can

02:05:08.740 --> 02:05:18.660
-  acknowledge any harms and mitigate those whenever possible. That's all I got.

02:05:18.660 --> 02:05:25.980
-  Thank you very much. Before we conclude, I would like to remind all of you that Women's

02:05:25.980 --> 02:05:30.300
-  History Month is today and every day for the month of March. It is quickly coming to a

02:05:30.300 --> 02:05:35.980
-  close and I am deeply honored to share this dais with some very strong and passionate

02:05:35.980 --> 02:05:42.300
-  women who take leadership very seriously, as you just heard, as well as those in council

02:05:42.300 --> 02:05:50.220
-  office staff, and we're just so thankful that we are able to do the work in this community

02:05:50.220 --> 02:05:56.780
-  thanks to strong women. I had the opportunity to be in Guatemala recently and was able to

02:05:56.780 --> 02:06:03.140
-  talk with some women leaders, an organization called Upavim. They made the tie that I'm

02:06:03.140 --> 02:06:10.860
-  wearing today. They are working diligently to train other women, to show leadership to

02:06:10.860 --> 02:06:15.700
-  other women throughout the country of Guatemala, indeed the world through their wares, to not

02:06:15.700 --> 02:06:23.940
-  only showcase that women can and are able to provide economically for their families

02:06:23.940 --> 02:06:28.580
-  even some of the most challenging situations, but also that when women come together we

02:06:28.580 --> 02:06:34.060
-  see some of the community's ills decrease, domestic violence and other forms of violence

02:06:34.060 --> 02:06:40.420
-  against women. So I wear this tie today in solidarity with not only the women in my life,

02:06:40.420 --> 02:06:49.060
-  but Todos Upavima and all the women around the world and I just want to express my gratitude

02:06:49.060 --> 02:06:55.820
-  to those folks and I want to end this meeting with a little bit of that celebration. This

02:06:55.820 --> 02:07:02.260
-  has been a pretty high stress meeting and some things have been said and I think it's important

02:07:02.260 --> 02:07:07.340
-  to recognize that we are surrounded by really strong women who are doing really great things

02:07:07.340 --> 02:07:34.460
-  for your community. We're adjourned.

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