well, welcome everyone. I would like to call tonight's meeting of the Minerva County Council to order for Tuesday, June the 10th. I want to note that for the record, we've got Council Members Fiddle, Council Members Wilts, Council Member Deckard, Council Members Henry and Council Member Iverson present in the room. Do we have Council Member Crossley online? Does that not look like it? Do we have Council? We do? All right. Thank you for joining us Council Member Crossley and Council Member Hawk. Is Council Member Hawk online? Don't see her. All right, will you all please rise and join me in our Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all very much. I'll move on to the adoption of our agenda this evening. Does anyone wish to amend tonight's agenda? We have a couple of items here for us. We are going to be tabling the Health Department items. For those of you keeping score at home, those are items 8E and 8F. Those will be tabled to the June 24th meeting to allow more time for information gathering. So 8E and 8F are tabled to June 24th. And we also want to add the following items. 10A, approval of an appointment to the Monroe County Public Library Board. And 10B, discussion and approval of resolution 2025-27, approving 2026 target fund balances. Council, I think you do have a copy of that resolution on the desk here. All right. Any questions or comments? Mr. Chairman, please. My understanding, and this was a quick inference from staff, was that 10B was a request by Councilor Hawk for it to be on the agenda today for a full council discussion. And I'm wondering, and I'm looking towards Council, if Councilor Hawk is not here and the full council is not here, do we need to do that? And I don't want to go contrary to what the leadership wants or anything, but I just am wondering if we're fulfilling a purpose or taking up time. I think this resolution was presented at LTF and the committee wanted it to be presented to the full council. As a caveat, I have not presented or provided FSG our advisors a copy of this, so they haven't seen it yet. So if the item is added to the agenda, it could be a discussion item, and then I could provide it to FSG for feedback and we can vote on it at a different meeting, or you could do discussion and approval. I would withdraw my question and I would go ahead and move the chairs additions on if that helps. Right. Any other comments or questions. Seeing none, could we please have a roll call vote to approve tonight's agenda. Councilor Iverson. Yes, counselor Henry. Yes. Councilor Wilts. Yes. Councilor cross Lee. Yes. Councilor final. Yes. Councilor Decker. Yes. Motion passes unanimous. Thank you so much. And just before we move on to public comment we do want to wish counselor cross Lee health in this moment so we are eager for you to return to us. Thank you. This item on our agenda is public comments. If there is an item, not on the agenda that you would like to speak, please come up to the podium, or raise your hand on teams as a reminder there will be a time limit of three minutes per speaker. And so we are going to start with a person at the podium and then we'll go online, and then we'll go to another person to the podium, we'll go with that so please Mr mg, the floor is yours for three minutes. Thank you. counselor Thank you. Council and and staff today this is Christopher mg from the greater Bloomington Chamber of Commerce. I just want to give my support for the work done by the county's long term financial planning committee. The county council is the fiscal body of county government and that two hours was a very sobering two hours and a very unclear two hours. But it has major ramifications moving forward and that specifically with bonding for one, and according to estimates I have in my notes, we're looking between 2026 and 29.66 million dollars revenue loss, and the county did not have that cushion, it makes me very glad that your stewards of our tax dollars with a nice rainy day fun, but that long term does not help us in matters when we're looking at major capital improvement projects with the highway. The jail, the new justice center at North Park, I don't know how that's going to work, and just future economic efforts but I continue to have those, I continue to encourage to have those conversations. Hopefully the more we look into this more we know I cannot begin to kind of give the details and point my finger on what's what, but nothing of it looked like good news from the two hours on Friday so just continue the work I appreciate it. And so do the residents here, Monroe County. Thanks. Thank you so much. Next we'll go online, I have a hand raised Mr muchler. Please go ahead you've got the floor for three minutes. Good evening council, Seth muchler here, resident of Monroe County. I wanted to speak today also in response to the news from Friday's long term finance planning committee meeting, specifically the cap on debt allowance for local income tax revenue. I want to first acknowledge that SB one has had an impact on of course all county residents but it's also impacted your work and make your jobs those responsible for fiscal management significantly harder so I sympathize with you as you navigate these unexpected challenges. I do think, however, this specific component of SB one has given us an opportunity to reconsider our county's approach to incarceration, criminal legal system and the jail. As we are unable to finance the proposed new jail. I hope that you will reconsider renovation of the existing facility as a legitimate option that satisfies both the need for humane conditions in our jail, and the need for a solution that fits within our new changing and rapidly changing fiscal needs. Now I know that we've heard time and time again the current jail is beyond repair, and I understand that's been said but the facts and figures say otherwise. The 2020 criminal justice and incarceration study which colloquially referred to as the kin ray study which the county commissioned estimated repair between 22 and $56 million. Now admittedly those are $20 21 and Dr Ray is not an architect, but in 2024, the county once again commissioned to study this time by our QAW a professional firm, and the cost of renovation was given as 58 to $67 million. They even provided an estimate of the cost of moving inmates during renovation which adds only 16 me only but adds $16 million to that cost. Note that the bulk of these costs are for out of county housing at 258 inmates, if we reduced our jail population that cost would go down. Now, I know we don't want to just do something because only it's the fiscally prudent move, we also need to make sure it's the right move, but I believe that it is, if we spend, if we renovate the jail and spend the remainder of the lit funds which we would not need to take debt on and could disperse on an annual basis. I think it's the right move. Looking back to that Kinray study the source for much of the belief that we need a newer and bigger jail. In that report, they estimated that in 2025 we would need a jail with 370 beds. Well, according to the jails 2024 annual report, we only average 227 daily inmates last year, so this demonstrates that we are not beholden to this idea of linear growth in our jail population. If we don't have to build just a bigger jail, we can reduce our jail population and reduce our reliance on the facility. I know that for social service organizations, those who have recidivism, half of the state average, funding is often the bottleneck for service expansion. So I hope that you will take all this into consideration as you navigate both serving the community and also serving these unique fiscal needs that the state has handed to you. Thank you for your time and for your service. Thank you, Mr. Muchler you timed that perfectly. Right. Who would like to come to the podium next. You're welcome and next three minutes are all yours. Yes, thank you very much. My name is Stephen Clark I work for the US Small Business Administration Office of disaster recovery and resilience. And I will begin by saying that two years ago I was in Bloomington working on a tornado outbreak and now two years later I am back in Bloomington because of the May 16th tornado outbreak and wanted to specifically address the availability of SBA disaster loans for homeowners renters private nonprofits and small businesses in Monroe County. We have physical damage disaster loans for all four of those categories, which are available to make repairs rebuild or to be used to relocate. In addition to our physical damage loan program we have an economic injury disaster loan program available for private nonprofits and small businesses to be a working capital loan to make up for lost revenue due to disruptions which may have occurred due to the storms. Those are our basic programs. A couple of items I would like to highlight, we have what we call a disaster loan outreach center currently at Ivy Tech 200 Daniels way. It is open Monday through Friday from 8am until 5pm Saturday, 10 to two, and there you can get assistance applying for in person for these, these disaster loans. I am also a representative of the Indiana Department of Homeland Security and they have grant funds available for disaster survivors as well. So both of those things would be available. I will add that this center is scheduled to close on Wednesday, June 18 at 3pm permanently so it is a resource which is available for in person assistance for a period of time but not forever. Beyond that, the other really important deadline I would like to highlight is that the physical damage disaster loan application deadline is July 29th. I have sent all this information by email and feel free to share that information. If you do run into anyone who is in need of assistance, please have them give me a call on my cell phone or send me an email so I can try to point them in the right direction, whether it's answering questions myself or sending them to the Disaster Loan Outreach Center to get some in person assistance. We encourage people do not wait to receive an insurance settlement before applying for an SBA loan. We can fund you up to the extent of your uncompensated losses up to our loan limits, which for homeowners are $500,000 for real estate, and for homeowners and renters that be an additional $100,000 for personal property. This loan limits are generally $2 million. So the funds are available to get the SBA disaster loan before receiving an insurance settlement, and then be able to begin and make repairs or the rebuilding or even relocation before you're able to, or before you have to get that so that may open up a lot of possibilities for people to get things done more quickly than under their insurance and I thank you very much for your time this evening. Thank you. Thank you, Mr Clark and if you would stay at the podium for just one second, I think, because of severity of the storm and the impact on our community. I'm going to give a minute to our my colleagues here to ask questions if you're okay with that. I'll answer questions all night long. All right. Who's our first taker here. I wanted some idea of how many you might have served already and what types of service you might have been providing already. Based on the data we had today, we've had, I believe, one business application and 14 homeowner or renter, you know, the home loan applications. But, you know, we're only about a week into this this was only declared I believe on May 30, so people have not had a lot of time really starting just last week that they were aware of it to make the applications. Thank you. Let's go online. I just wanted to thank you for sending this information ahead via email and giving us a chance to get it out. Two weeks ago at our last meeting we had members of our community come and speak to us about the damage to their property and their lives and their livelihoods and asking what could we do. And it's, it's tough to be in that position when you don't feel like there are a lot of options so hearing from you that you're in our community and actively providing options is a comfort. Thank you. Sir, thank you so much for being here I had a question and you may be able to answer it or you may need to get back at whatever works. Thank you so much for taking these. If I have a constituent that I'm working with it has indicated that getting their property getting their home back to normal means, finding revenue or assistance to get things off of the property and they cannot do it. Yes, you can use funds for debris removal. Okay, so that is an option or demolition perhaps if things need to be rebuilt in that way that those would both be authorized uses the loan funds. And beyond that you can get additional funds up to 20% greater than the amount of uncompensated losses for mitigation improvements to make your structure or landscaping or I guess just generally the premises better suited to deal with potential storms or other hazards in the future. So I mean for tornadoes that that might include changes to maybe pruning trees or things back so that you don't have limbs falling on buildings. It could involve anchoring buildings to foundations, but there also could be things just like changes to drainage. If flooding was a concern that I mean that comes up a lot in places that I've been. Anyone to me if they have additional questions because we want to get them pointed in the right direction and get their applications in. I guess I should add you know our loans. There's no application fee and there's no obligation to take alone when you apply. So I mean the downsides are will take a bit of time to get the information together. You know so that may be a few hours and we will run a hard credit check, but those are really the only downsides. So otherwise we encourage anyone who thinks they might need this. Please you know put in your application, then you can find out what you're eligible to get from the SBA, and then you can decide if you want to take it or not. Like I said, it's no obligation. So you know if you decide for whatever reason, it's not for you. You don't want to take on the debt. You get the insurance money to take care of it. You decide you want to go some other direction. Those are all perfectly good and then at least you will not be missing out by waiting too long past application deadlines or things like that. Thank you, Mr. President, and thank you for being here again I know your your trips to Bloomington are always under these circumstances hopefully you can visit us under different conditions. I do appreciate SBA for being here. Given that you know we do know there's already some challenges with the state disaster relief funding getting folks the resources they need here, and as well as you know we do not meet the federal threshold for FEMA this is really the next stop and I'm glad the resources and hopefully folks are hearing you tonight and continue to use the resource I know there's quite a few more parcels out there homes out there that were damaged that need to find their way to IV tech so happy to share the information wherever we can. Yes, thank you and I know that the county emergency management agency has already shared our information on on the county website and on their Facebook page and I think that's already received some good views and help to get some people the information they need so thank you very much for helping us share our information, you know with your friends and neighbors. I have a question I was just going to point that out that if you go to co.monroe.in.us or Google Monroe County, Indiana, an overview of the US Small Business Administration disaster assistance sheets that you just talked about is right there so you know, head over there there's also other disaster resources available at that website so thank you for being here and thank you for answering questions that we had. Yes, thank you very much. All right, do we have any more public comment I'm looking online and in the NatU Hill Room. Seeing none we're going to move on to department updates and tonight we're going to begin with the Youth Services Bureau. First we have Vicki Thevenile for a department updates. You've got 10 minutes, should you need it. I don't. Good afternoon, Vicki Thevenile, Youth Services Bureau. I'm here because Michelle instructed me that our new protocol is to come to you in a department update for this particular issue. I have a counselor who's leaving and is full time they're moving to Chicago we wish them good luck but we'll miss them. We have hired the replacement and we'd like a two week overlap for training these counselors work with families and youth and it's really abrupt for someone to leave and not have an opportunity to introduce the person that's replacing them in that kind of intimate setting and with our programs. So, we already have in our budget, a transitional temporary training position account line so that's already established. I have the money to cover this already in my budget I'm not asking for money it's $2,888 and 60 cents for that two week overlap. And I think I am here just to ask for your blessing to move forward is that correct is correct. Well thank you for that do we need a motion for a blessing. Like I explained to miss them and all the line is already in the, in the budget. She is going to do an in house transfer. I said it would be a good idea to just give you a heads up on what is going to be happening, and why that account lines being used again. Right, counsel do you have any questions or comments on this item. I think you have your blessing. Thank you so much. Have a good evening. Thank you. Next we have Jen Pearl with the Bloomington Economic Development Corporation and guests. So welcome to the podium the next 10 minutes is yours. Good evening my name is Jen Pearl and I'm president of the Bloomington Economic Development Corporation we're a nonprofit that serves all of Monroe County in helping to attract and grow quality jobs for the community. I just wanted to come and share with you some great news that a new company called all boy has selected Monroe County for its us expansion. And for that I have Monica, who's with us here from all boy to share more details. Thanks. Welcome. Thank you. Hi Council, Monica think with envoy, we just really wanted to come and say thank you to Bloomington and to all the partners that have helped us. You know, launch our operations here we're a Canada based company who found the need to kind of land in the US as our customers are really pulling us here. We're a steel manufacturer in the telecom industry so the easiest way to think about it is these devices require networks to make those happen. We manufacture all of the structures and the mounts and some of the other parts that put those networks up right so it's not an industry that off that's often thought about until those devices don't don't work right so. But, but we chose Bloomington because number one it's, you know, geographically located for all of our customer base, we have a heavy customer base here in the Midwest. We also have some great partners in Indianapolis and Louisville so Bloomington is like pleasantly right in the middle of all of that so we're really thrilled for that, but really from the standpoint of just workforce development. With the universities here, we have an engineering side to our business that is really important to the steel manufacturing. So, with Indiana University Purdue, you know closely located on that's a great pull from the engineering side and then also with Ivy Tech on the trade side I think that's a great resource for us as well so we've we found a home in kind of a under the live space and the Phoenix packaging facility they've been gracious to open that up for us and it's a great fit for our operations so we're really looking forward to kind of getting up and going there. We're anticipating between 50 and 100 jobs over the next couple years and and really telecom if you look at those projections the infrastructure and the funding right now from this administration has been great. Brendan car chairman the FCC is a great supporter of this industry so we're seeing a lot of positives in terms of the growth over the next five to 10 years within telecom so lots of positives, you know, in light of all of that so we're really looking forward to that excited to be here in Bloomington. We just love this community. So thank you just wanted to give a quick introduction to to envoy. Thank you. Please. So I wanted to add that some of your past decisions as counsel is actually bearing fruit here. So they're locating in the former Otis elevator facility, and that has been redeveloped beautifully in recent years by Phoenix, with the support Council in investing in Phoenix to be able to do that so that is something that has born fruit in other ways and we love being able to redevelop old properties to bring that investment into our community so thank you for that as well. Well, thank you. Would you stick around for questions from Council, they haven't I'll start with my right. I mean it's not so much questions but comments. Welcome. First of all, it's wonderful I do live on the west side of the county and anytime we can really work on the redevelopment of Curry Pike where our industrial heart is we tend to think of college and Walnut is you know the downtown of Livingston but that's the other downtown when it comes to our light industrial and economic core there and welcome, this is just a great opportunities exactly the stuff we should be doing and smartly developing our community and way to track jobs and, and folks I'm glad we can be home where are you located in Canada. We're in Toronto, Canada. Yep. So, very good. Hopefully we can do some exchange there through the beast you see I haven't been to that side of Lake Erie in a long time like Ontario but I'm welcome welcome. Thank you. Thank you. And I do want to commend just the Council I'm sure you've had a heavy hand in this we found a ton of opportunity with partners to you know play veterans we have programs with that. We have a program that helps you know employee previously incarcerated so there's some programs here within the community, and we just really appreciative because you don't always find that, and really Bloomington is opened up their arms so we're very grateful. So I have a personal history with that building my husband was in that building for 40 years so welcome welcome to the club. Thank you. But I also wanted to know how many employees you have here now that you currently employ so we just got the keys to the building. We actually I was sharing with Jen earlier we just opened Rex on we're looking at about 10 to 15 applications that we just opened up to help get our operations we have machinery and equipment still very much in the process of moving in, but we are anticipating 50 to 100 over the next couple years so that's going to taper out over the next few months. And like I said we just got started so this is we're still very much in our living in the building from Curry Pike there which, where are you at in the so we're on the side with the with the license branch the yes. So yep we're on the south side right there. Great. Yep. And how much area do you will your operation take on we were that whole back. Yes, so and we'll fill that space pretty quickly is what it's looking like. Great. Thank you. Thank you. All right, I'm going to go to the floating head above you. Councilmember Crossley has her hand raised. Hi, can y'all hear me. Yes. Okay. All right. Thank you so much and I'm apologize for not being there in person. So, I wanted to ask a quick question. How many jobs, did you say that you would be bringing or proposed, so we're projecting between 50 and 100 over the next couple of years. I'm sorry, say that one more time. 50 to 100 over the next couple of years to 100. Okay, and those are and then did I. Sorry, I'm going to primarily on you know like manufacturing, you know, trade type jobs. And then a handful of engineers as well. And then, did I also hear you say that you also work with incarcerated formerly incarcerated people to. Yes, we do have a program where we like to partner with some formerly incarcerated to help with their rehabilitation and get them back into the community and provide a path to that so that is part of our hiring practices and we found a lot of success with that and some of our other locations. So that's a program we do have intention to kind of launch here as well. I appreciate hearing that, and I'd appreciate you know, jobs and things like that and opportunities to continue to come to Monroe County. I also would be remiss if I didn't say I wish we could, you know, the jobs and opportunities that we can bring, we can attain those by the housing that we would be able to have here in Monroe County as well. So it's a I appreciate you know you all come in here and start in here and fresh, but we definitely want to make sure that as we are getting the jobs vital and important. Due to a lot of the restraints that SB one will put on us that we continue to have our dollars here too so there's a way that we can all work together to make that work I know that's a wish and a prayer right now. That's something else but I just wanted to take the time to say thank you so I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for being here and thank you this is great news that really sings our love language here in this county. Anytime I hear about reuse of a facility that was a loss facility turning into something that is putting people back to work. Veterans recently incarcerated. This is, these are our values, and I'll say as the child of a person that lost their job when some of those industries left this community in the 90s. I am always apprehensive Lee thinking about who do we need to bring in and get in the conversation. And so, this is making my heart swell. I also want to say thank you to the BDC for beating this drum. Thank you also to the chamber for also beating these drums on other issues. And these are important conversations that we need to have my encouragement to use you work in this community. As you see things that we need to be doing on our end to keep you and to get more like you, or to think through those things and some of these issues that counselor cross these talking about around housing, and what things look like. Do not be afraid to tell us, because that is the only way our jobs truly work and while we try to get as many places as we can. Sometimes it's those candid conversations like Miss Pearl has. And sometimes she hears me kind of go off a little bit like oh we can't fix all these things, but we've got to be here in those things so please bring those to us keep bringing those to us, and we appreciate our partners very much. Good to hear this. Thank you. We appreciate it and I do have to commend the BBC they've been fantastic to help us through this whole process and really were kind of one of the last check marks of why we choose Bloomington is just having partners available to us like that so we absolutely appreciate it and part of our philosophy and our culture is to be good stewards and partners in our community so we do intend to have these types of interactions and engagements and will provide that feedback so thank you for that I appreciate it. Let me conclude by not repeating anything my esteemed colleagues have said, other than to say, when you finally get set up and you got everything exactly where you need it and you've got everything humming around. Let us know we'd love to come and tour and like see how things are going particularly as you're coming to us in this introductory stage. We like to do that follow up so we'd appreciate that invitation if you, if you would. Absolutely. Wonderful. Great you actually be making things there. We will. Yeah, cool. It is a production facility so we will be welding steel and doing all kinds of really cool things. Very nice. Monica thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Jen. All right, before we move on to item number six on our agenda. Do we have any other departments with an update looking on teams and in the net you hill I don't see any we'll move on to item number six on our consent agenda items we don't have any, which means that we'll move on to item number seven ongoing business we don't have any there. So that means that we'll go on to new business and it looks like we have something from parks and rec. Council I moved to approve the parks request and fun 1178 0000 parks, non reverting capital for an additional preparation of $80,000 in the services category second. All right, this seems like a very interesting item as Kelly Whitmer comes to the podium, would you mind telling us a little bit about what's happening here in your non reverting capital fund. Excellent, thank you. We have a big project that cars farm part you probably know about it. We're putting in synthetic fields and improving drainage and irrigation and athletic lights. Well during this time, oh I don't know a few months back we had a few big storms. And we actually have a railroad track right next to these fields, and on the other side of the railroad tracks is a farm field owned by the Monroe County Airport, and they were in the middle of doing an erosion control project, but it was not completed until it really started in all the water came under the culverts under the railroad and hit our project. Unfortunately, but fortunately, with all the engineers decided that we needed to upgrade how we move water how we move sediment and putting in a sediment basin pond. I won't say pond it's a little thing of mud. We talked to the airport, and we've also talked to Monroe County stormwater, and they're involved in the project too. So, the airport is doing what stormwater once we are doing what stormwater once, but it costs money to do both sides and we, I believe there's things that will take care of everything on our side of the tracks, and they will take care of everything on their side of the tracks, and it will prevent water and mud coming on to the brand new turf fields. Fast forward, the park board. They did approve they want to spend our money out of non reverting. So I'm asking for additional 80,000 to spend out of our non reverting accounts I'm not asking you for a penny. This permission to spend the money that we already have. We have 20,000 appropriated right now on contractual plus 80 equals $100,000. This project is actually going to be 114,000 but we'll, we'll find it from other means to pay for it. So, any questions about water or mud. All right, with that enticing prompt I'm looking look to my left, Mr. Deckard is that a quick one related but unrelated. So we're on the synthetic fields, when can we expect to see those just, I'm very curious. Currently, we're hoping to be done in October of this year, weather permitting, there's been a lot of rain in the last seven days so every time it rains it pushes us back one or two days why everything's drying out. I mean, best case scenario, October 1, maybe November 1. But we're not rushing things to just rush and we want to make sure everything's done properly correctly. The first time, so the other fields six and seven should be ready to play in spring or summer. And we use largely ARPA dollars to do those, am I right on that? Correct. Most of the money is ARPA. Some bond and the park board is chucked in almost a half million dollars, give or take. Thank you, Mr. Decker. Further questions? Yes. So you answered the only question I was going to have, which is, have you been working with stormwater? And I knew, I knew you were, but it's just really, it's gratifying to hear something, I think, presented as, wow, we had this big problem happen, but hang tight, we've got a solution and we're figuring it out. And so I really appreciate that, especially cooperating with the other departments and having them involved. So, I don't, I think this is a no-brainer. All right. All right, Ms. Crossley, do you have any comments or questions? All right, I don't either. I agree this is a no-brainer. So let's have any public comments on this mud and water agenda item. Seeing none, may we please have a roll call vote. Councillor Decker. Yes. Councillor Iverson. Yes. Councillor Henry. Yes. Councillor Fiddle. Yes. Councillor Crossley. Yes. And then Councillor Wilts. Motion passes unanimous. Thank you. You're very welcome. Next, we have Emergency Management. Council, I move to approve the Emergency Management's request and fund 49389625 Emergency Management Duke Grant for the creation of a new account line 44220 Emergency Response Equipment and simultaneously approve an additional appropriation of $5,500 in the capital category. Second. All right, we have Mr. Justin Baker from Emergency Management joining us online. Good evening, Council. Yes, the department is pleased to announce that the county has been awarded a grant with the Duke Energy Foundation. This grant will help purchase a multi-purpose communication and command and public outreach trailer. That will be used to enhance the department's ability to coordinate incidents throughout the county as well as provide effective education and outreach to the community. This trailer will be used through a partnership with the Indiana University Emergency Management Team and we have MOU with the IU drafted and it was sent to the legal department. All right. Thank you so much for that explanation. I'll look to my right and online. Any comments or questions? All right. Look to my left. Any comments or questions? Seeing none, I don't have any either. Let's go to the public to see if they have any comments and/or questions. Seeing none, let's go back to Mr. Henry. Thank you. I just got a little, I was thinking there, Justin. Thanks. Aside from the prompts, can you maybe walk through how you're thinking about using the fund and the preparedness phase with IUM EMC? I mean, I know, do you have something like a project in mind that's forthcoming? So it'll be for public outreach, like going to like some of the festivals and stuff in the area, in the county, and help coordinate events and disasters. So that's, and when you say go to events, you mean like help plan around the safety around those public events in the county? Yes, like any kind of fairness events, yes. Very good, thank you. All right, I just want to make sure that didn't jog any additional questions, my colleagues here. Did it jog additional questions for those in the public? All right, seeing none, may we please have a roll call vote. Councilor Iverson? Yes. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor Feidl? Yes. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Crossley? Yes. Councilor Decker? Yes. Motion passes unanimous. Thank you so much Mr. Baker. Thank you. All right, next we have courts. Council, I move to approve the courts request in Fund 1213-0000-GL-CASA for an additional appropriation of $50 in the services category. Second. Second. All right, we were going to have Lisa Abraham come and talk to us about it, but Kate Wilts, I think you have the ability to handle this. I do. I talked with Lisa and since this is just really a housekeeping issue and getting things aligned with what council had already expressed an intent, I relieved her of the obligation for appearing and said that I would move this one forward to you all. So it's really if you look at the explanation, it was something that we voted on previously and just had a math error, so we seem to correct it. All right, colleagues my left any questions or comments colleagues my right and online any comments or questions. Okay, does the public have any comments or questions about this $50 item. Seeing none, may we please have a roll call vote. Councilor welts. Yes, Councilor cross Lee. Yeah, count for Decker. Yes, Councilor Henry. Yes, Councilor Iverson. Yes, Councilor vital. Yes, motion passes unanimous. All right, thank you so much, Councilor for what's next we have the public defender. Council, I moved to approve the public defenders request and fund 9160000 system navigator grant, the creation of two account lines 18001 full time self insurance and 30006 contractual and simultaneously approve an additional appropriation of $86,953 in the personnel category and $9000 in the services category for total appropriation of $95,953. Second. All right, we have a request for creation of a new account line. Tell us what's going on here. Can you pull the mic close to your mouth please. We had a, we had a contractual account line in this fund for a data component data collection component. And when we drained that at the end of 2024 there wasn't an extra dollar in there to keep that line open so that the 9000 that I'm asking to go into that. I have to have a line for it to go into. All right, pretty simple explanation. Let me start to my right and online any questions or comments. Seeing none, just go to the left here. Any questions. All right, pretty straightforward. Let's go online to see if we have any public comments or here in the net you hill room. Seeing none, may we please have a roll call vote. Counselor cross Lee. Yes. Counselor Henry. Yes, counselor final. Yes counselor Iverson. Yes. Counselor Decker. Yes. Motion passes unanimous. All right. Thank you so much. I have and we need to move to the next. Yes, please. I think the motion read was to be the creation of new account lines and for the appropriation. I did a big motion. I thought I got it all. Yes. I think we're good. You're good. Perfect. How's that for efficiency. Good. Thank you very much. Thank you. Enjoy your evening. You too. All right. Items E and F were tabled. Next move on to presentations and discussions. Seeing none. Let's move on to item number A boards and commission appointment. Yes, sorry. Council. I moved to approve the appointment of Jennifer Whitley to the Monroe County Public Library Board of Trustees, completing the remainder of a four year term, which expires on January 31st, 2026. Second. All right, I'm going to present this item, the Monroe County Public Library had an opening on their board and they asked us for assistance and making a recommendation to fill that board. I had the honor and privilege of talking to all three candidates and win consultation with folks over there at the public library I feel very confidently in moving forward with Jennifer Whitley for completion of the remainder of a four year term that term would expire on January 31st, 2026 on that county public library board. Jennifer Whitley has extensive work with in this in library sciences, and has worked at numerous libraries, as well as on multiple boards here locally. So, I think, at this point, I can open it up to counsel for any comments or questions that you have about this appointment. And I believe the resume was sent virtually and it looks like one's being passed around as well. I appreciate anyone that is stepping forward for any board and Commission, particularly this one. One of the reasons I say that is our library is such a strong, strong resource in all of its branches. And to illustrate that, just if you indulge me for two seconds, I remember a few years back when the co-workspace craze kind of took off. People were saying this is like a new invention that we've got here, a place where people can gather, have Internet access, share resources, get information, share information, et cetera. And that is true about co-workspaces, but libraries were the original co-workspace doing all those things for many, many decades. And I appreciate very much the leadership of our library, which has made such a huge influence on all sides of this county. So I appreciate Miss Whitley offering her service to this. Any other comments or questions online or down here at the table? Could the director also support this appointment to the board? The director and I have been in pretty regular communication and he appreciated our decision making on this. And the three people that were given to us to fill this role were all exceptionally well qualified. And this is an incredibly difficult decision to make, but I think given Miss Whitley's resume, she'll do a fantastic job for my kiddos who use the library all the time. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Is there, do we take public comment on, I don't think we do. All right. Can we please have a roll call vote. Councilor Fiddle. Yes. Councilor Henry. Yes. Councilor Deckard. Yes. Councilor Iverson. Yes. Councilor Crossley. Yes. Councilor Wills. Yes. Motion passes unanimous. All right. Thank you so much. And I guess in terms of follow up. Will council office be communicating with the public library or is that something that I should be doing. We will take care of we have a signature page that we forward on to them. All right. Michelle you are always professional. Thank you so much. All right. Next we have an item from the legal department. Council I move to open for discussion and approval resolution 2025-27 approving the 2026 target fund balances. Second. All right. I believe that our legal counsel Molly Turner King is going to be tackling this one. So this resolution is similar to the one that was passed in the last year at the direction and advice of financial solutions group. Our advisors the text of the resolution and I'm trying to display it changed slightly because last year we had a minimum cash balance column and a target fund balance column. This resolution now only has a minimum balance column. And so like I said oh that's super tiny now that I look at it on the screen. The financial solutions group recommended establishing minimum cash balances for certain funds which help our bond rating for helps us receive a favorable bond rating. So like I said the language is the same. The main thing that changed was the numbers and I'm displaying them if Miss Gregory would like to speak to them. Sure. One moment. So we made a couple changes from what you saw last year as far as the minimum recommendation. The general fund last year we had a 10 million dollar minimum balance. My comfort level is raising that up to 15 which it's it's always higher than that amount but I don't think we should dip below that number and I think that's easy for us to achieve. Moving on down. These are, again, just kind of like guidelines thresholds that we do not want to dip below in order to, you know, to keep the county in great financial shape so election fund, we like to, you know, keep that around a million dollars. We raise it slightly as we have elections happen. CCD we would like to maintain about community cumulative capital development we'd like to maintain about a million dollars and traditionally it, it's exceeds that self insurance. We've discussed in depth lately, we would like to keep a minimum of 1.5 million, and we're hoping to achieve that between this year next lit edit we exceed that the million dollars. Right now I mean as we spend that down with future projects, you know, we'll have to revisit this 400,000 for reassessment rainy day we've all discussed that we'd like to keep that comfort level that $10 million. So just again, the rest of these are around a million as well with the exception of aviation fund where we'd like to keep that at least 250,000 so any specifics, or we'd like to dive in and see something from now like current balances. I'm happy to do that. And again, financial solutions group has yet to review this so we would like their consideration as well. However, this is where we are now. All right, I'm going to look to members of LTF for initial comments so Councilmember cross Lee, if you would like to say anything about this or customers are vital, if you'd like to say anything about this. Oh, I believe that we brought it to the council because we didn't want to have it just be. I think supporting what SG was interested in having happen is, is exactly where I'm at with this I think that it's. I mean, I think we have these consultants for a reason. And I think that they should be relied upon to give us the advice that we're paying them for. Councilmember cross Lee do you have anything to add to that. She basically said everything that I can say more. And that's again why we are bringing this to the full council so that we can make sure that we are on target with what we have. Thank you, Madam President, Mr. Deckard I saw your hand first. Yeah, so help me out with just the process for just a second. So the auditor for this. So we see these recommended amounts on these cash balances, is that FSC recommended balances or kind of a mix of FSC and your recommended balances, and then we will get comments from FSC on those amounts might saying this right. Sure. So, yes, these, these numbers didn't fluctuate much with the exception of the, we added cumulative capital development I don't, I don't think we had that one last year. Just because there are salaries in that fund we think that it's appropriate to maintain a minimum. The general funds I, I increased from the minimum last year. However, we do want FSC is review and recommendation but yes we have collaborated on these numbers. I guess my follow up question is FSC is helping us to understand what will help with bonding. The recommendation also helping us to understand what will help with the state. And here's what I mean by that we are two narratives out there, right. And I'm not trying to be argumentative but I am as an elected official with this community's job given to me. I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do, because I hear two different things. Number one, I hear a narrative counties. You have too much money coming in from taxpayers and we need you to stop doing that. And then I hear a second narrative counties, you need to have a lot of reserves. And when you think you have a lot of reserves that far outpace what a human walking around this community as for their personal reserves, and I say this is a person that just recently looked at a medical bill that came in the mailbox and thought well there goes the reserves. You, such as you got to have the reserves but you're taking in too much you have the reserves. I'm just looking somewhere in this and maybe it's F SG. Maybe it's at one of our conferences, maybe it's somewhere. I'd like to hear a consistent narrative on some of this, because we clearly with the fact that we have a balance not every county I think can speak to that or sing to that, but the fact that we have a balance tells a story about the county and how we got through the pandemic, and how we'll figure out the next big headaches that are all emerging Mr M G's comments tonight, and then some, and then balance this and all that. I'm just, I'm trying to figure out as a local official, and I don't expect you to have those answers, but I would like someone out there that listens to these meetings to try to figure out what that narrative is, because we don't have the dollars to afford the bureaucratic state of what they have they've got 45 people looking in on us, we have our own auditor. Right. And yet we also get the narrative when you push all this and hold all this and do this and if you don't do it by the third day and ringing of the shapes and all that jazz you'd be in trouble. I'm passing that message in joining you with a bit of frustration and trying to figure it out too. Thank you. Thank you. And with regard to this I just do you want to remind you that these are the minimums so these aren't target balances I mean we would like these balances to be much higher and typically they are. This is just a guideline that we will not fall below. With regard to SB one it's not fun. And we have to work together and we're still waiting on information from the state and we're all very frustrated with that, but the transition from you know that from tax revenue and putting that into lit it's it's going to be difficult it's definitely a big transition and we there's so many unknowns still so I'm with you when I appreciate that very much. I just see it's a continuing moving target. It's, you've got enough now well actually, you don't have enough now because we found this definition by price waterhouse Cooper blah blah blah, and it just keeps changing. So anyway, I'll leave it alone. Thank you. All right, Mr. Henry. Mr. President, I do I just have one question because I did have the good fortune of sitting in on some of the LG TF meeting, or, oh yeah, on Friday. The motor vehicle highway with that this number changed from Friday didn't it wasn't out of 2 million and now it's a million in the second draft. Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. So there was confusion with the draft on Friday whether this was meant to be a target fund balance or minimum fund balance and in further clarifying communication with FSG, it's to be a minimum. So that was why the number changed. I know I know Mr was here to talk about that a little bit. Are there other. So, the numbers here that that all that all tracks is the minimum at this point is that. There was confusion from having the two columns which had minimum, and then target to just minimum so yeah we. There was some fluctuation with the minimum but you're basically with the exception of what I went through. You're seeing what you saw last year. Have you ever once had questions like Mr rigid with the highway fund, or is this okay with with the other departments that draw from these funds. If they haven't gotten back to you that's okay too. I don't think other departments have seen this in all honesty this is a draft that got finished today. And so FSG or no one else is seeing it until now. Thank you. I think the bond rating was the clincher for me if it's going to affect our bond rating I think that's important to consider having this established. Could you either counselor Henry or the folks over there. Tell me what the concern or maybe it was just a question from highway was sure I think I can speak to that. Yeah, I think there was concern about being able to achieve a $2 million I think it was we had it at two or $2.5 million target balance that funds is often fully utilized. So, I think Miss rich is more comfortable with, you know, a $1 million minimum so and you know this is this is new, where it's, it's been tweaked for 2026. So, you know, still discussing and we do need our financial advisors to review as well and give their blessing. All right, any other further questions from Council Council member cross Lee you're good. All right. The only thing I want to add is there's just a lot of uncertainty. If you watch the two hour and 11 minute video from Friday, that's kind of the underlying thing, I will point out to the public and to our departments that have not yet watched that that meeting right now on cats dot cats TV dot net, as well as YouTube. So you can catch that meeting and and all of the conversation that underlines this this item on those platforms which I think is really helpful. It's good to have transparency around this. And I think it's really vital that we're having these conversations in the public. My question is to our county attorney. The motion that was read was to adopt tonight, should, should, or actually the motion was discussion and adoption. So, should the motion be conditional upon Mr Garrett toss or others, looking at this. I think you could do it that way my preference and suggestion would be that we send it to miss get your gear toss before you vote on it and then I would bring it back to the 24th meeting. I would also give departments time to think about it, and that is very important. Well yeah, because I'm just seeing this for the first time I was, I have not caught up on the Friday streaming option, which I will be doing soon. But, can, could you just looking at I mean this is a lot of money. How aspirational is this and how realistic because I mean I guess, do we have this. We certainly do and this, this, this is, I mean at a very minimum, this is what needs to occur. So these, this is okay so very high rate was the only one that you said gets fully utilized and yeah, we can go over the detail and I can even provide those reports to counsel so you can see where we are, like, as of the end of last year, and then where we are currently. I have an idea, we settle settlement which means you know we, we get our tax revenues in, and so forth. This week. So, that will change our balances as well. Right. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Right. Any other further comments and questions from counsel. Seeing none. I think that concludes this discussion, and it sounds like we will take this up for more discussion and potential approval at a future meeting. All right, that concludes our business for the day but before we adjourn, it is time for us to look down at the end of the table at a color coded sheet of legal paper, Councilmember final. Do you have down there, I do have some things to report I've been doing. I asked for and got to meet with the Monroe County Airport recently I enjoyed my time with the director. President, and the vice president of the board Carlos Kenan Allen, and they went over their strategic plan update with me, and they'll be approving that in February of 2026 they said, but you can see this outline of all of this at www BMG masterplan.com. Looking at I think if you're interested. They have 100 plus acres of develop a land. They offer flight instruction rental hangar space charter service full service barber shop right there. They have an Airbnb right on site. So if you want to watch planes fly in and out it's a great place to have an Airbnb. And they also now do an Ivy Tech auto class which I found very very interesting. Also, things that I went to the eldersville legislative wrap up session on Tuesday, the third learned a lot there. Five legislators I believe are there certainly state legislators, and they. I think the biggest takeaway I got from that was there may need to be some fixes with the section, because it was. I've been saying for some time now it seems like there is a lot of unintended consequences that came as a result of all the session this year. The Washington Center groundbreaking, same day. The Monroe County Fair Board I did have something to pass along there that I thought was good for people who want to go to the fair especially people who want to ride rides, they're having fair tickets pre sale, and they're having them at all people state bank locations they're there now they tell me. There are 22 tickets for $20 which are normally $30 so this budget friendly mother of and grandmother thinks that's a good deal so 22 tickets for $20 normally $30 all at people state bank locations. Their vendor market went well they they cleared about 12,000 there. The roof on the community building, I think I reported earlier that it was going to be repaired well once they got up there they realized that it was going to be not just repair but needed replacement because there were major water issues with water standing between the roof, and the next layer down so that'll be a $73,000 and change. That'll come with a 20 year warranty. I attended a conference well actually a presentation at a law firm in Indianapolis about legislative issues that other has been discussed earlier this evening there's still no hard financial numbers to base decisions on which is very frustrating and I found that even the attorneys there are continuing to figure it out they were there was a PowerPoint presentation and even one of the PowerPoint slides was incorrect that they had to correct on site so I just find that very frustrating. We talked a little bit about the long term finance committee meeting and doing. I'm going to be doing coed meetings when necessary I couldn't make it back in time to attend the one that they had earlier but I'm in contact with Randy Rogers that united way about that and then I've been meeting with employee services about some issues there so I've, I've been out and about and around and doing things. Thank you. Once. Can we do these in a different order sometimes because this is rough. Oh, how can you not start with the color coded legal pad maybe that would be a great finish, or maybe we should not scotch. I don't know. All right. I swear Councilmember Wilson this is not a competition. Well, I feel like it might be. My thing is I've always had to do reports on anything that I've ever done with regard to serving anywhere and so I'm used to going through my calendar from the last time I met to this time and that's how I come up with this list it doesn't just happen by magic. And I do that regularly, all the time, but I know if I don't write it down. My, my only thing is I think I have met with most of the departments on my liaison list, and to varying extents have talked about budget, if we haven't, please call me, look me up, we will. If I don't hear from you I'll call you so that's that's where we are we met today with probation and community corrections and they're working on, you know, trying to figure out how to face the challenges so I feel free off we can be of help. That's our job. My gosh now I have to follow all that. I'll just be very quick and say that if I was giving my actual report, I spent an hour on the phone, driving it can't present crossly about this issue or that now. That's not what I did, I will say I do want to recognize the convention center groundbreaking, which are our president spoke at. I think that when we have those big accomplishments in the community. It's important to not only recognize those things, but look what made those work, and then replicate it. And I think for our big challenges ahead. There's a lot of good patterns there to kind of pick up and figure it out. We as a community are very much in a extreme transitional period on about just every level, imaginable. And so my ear to the ground, or eyes to the ground ear to the ground is to figure that out for a lot of people right now and then try to meaningfully bring that into discussions with our department heads as I do my pre budget kind of warm up. And it's good to be able to do that now as a non leadership member and to kind of go back out into my folks so I'll pass. Thank you, Mr. Decker. All right, Mr. Henry. Thank you. I'll just keep it short. There's no reason to keep it to the director's cut we could actually make this a longer meeting. No, no, we'll see, Peter, you didn't tie me anyway. The emac will meet this coming week, and of course the bodies representative on that body. And, you know, I've made some recommendations to the county commissioners to add some seats to the emac, I think we do, and should have someone from the township association at the table as well as our GIS person Dr. Baton who both have, you know, and they're in townships and his role have really shown some great value in the last tornado response that is released recommendation, Jamie and I have made to the commissioners for consideration. I've also had a chance to start attending the co add meetings when they meet regarding the response we heard from us be a time which is really great. But I think one thing to keep in mind is that, again, the tornado exposed just how few single single room occupancy spaces are available in our community for both times of crisis as well as when townships are placing people and assistance I know the city is looking at their UDO to add an SRO as a housing choice within the city limits of Bloomington losing the economy and which was a provider of that is just exposed a huge gap in our housing choices so I think again as I continue to beat the drum on the recovery from that event, even though many have moved on there's still many that are have not been able to really get back on their feet on that. Secondly, I did join. Councilor Fiddle and counselor hawk at the old school chambers legislative wrap up I will, I do have to reflect on something counselor Decker brought up about, you know, things up north and kind of how things affect our community representative Mayfield did go out of her way to remind us that in her view, some of the legislation that was passed that affects our localities ability to collect taxes and how we use our taxes was for us to really think about our needs once and luxuries as she put it. And it's something I take umbrage with because it's a county government and being a resident of this community I don't think the county government deals and luxuries very often. Yeah, I think we've been talking about that through our whole budget process this evening but it does show a disconnect in the manner by which that particular representative sees this county and all the good work people do in this building. Senator again wants to join this body and take a seat here to learn about that I'm sure President cross he would welcome her to but it was it was not it was not it was not a well received comment by me in the audience and other members of the audience who did speak up on a variety of what she perceives to be luxuries including public education our community so I'm glad folks attended that and said things in the room. I think about you know how we budget smarter and how we really think about smart development I was just so excited with all my here tonight but I will also raise the council's attention. As your rep on the plan commission that we've had some heat of exchange at the plan commission over the 25 year moratorium on development in the community that has been a contentious topic in the CDO. We did make an attempt to discuss that at the plan commission. Last week to basically send it back to the ordinance review committee for further consideration. So that's that's a lot of words to say basically as you all know that 25 year moratorium really limits our ability to help parcel owners develop their properties in the community in a manner that helps us generate revenue to share the burden of the quality of life and the taxes and the escalating costs of running our government. I am wide open to suggestions from my peers on how to proceed with communicating that message to those on the plan commission that think that the county council would not be interested in investing in the infrastructure to help build those housing choices in the community there seems to be some differences of philosophy there but I'm wide open to your suggestions in that space as we continue to have that debate. Just for the historical record the last time the plan commission took a vote on the 25 year moratorium in 2014 to lift it it failed for for. So it's not a unanimous thought in our community about whether or not that is a useful tool to plan for smart development. Lastly on a good note I look forward to rooting around the Monroe County History Center sale this weekend hope I see you there. Also the city's Juneteenth celebration on Friday and we still do that Monroe County in Bloomington I hope to see you all there as well. And I guess for the dads upstairs and here below Happy Father's Day this weekend too. That's it Mr. Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. Henry, Councilmember Crossley would you like to have the last word tonight. Oh also just I'll be brief because I'm only sitting up by just weird gravity and I feel like I'm sitting up like I am Hannibal Lecter in silence of the lambs so I'm trying to bear through and grit through everything. I just want to say really quick, maybe to Councilmember Henry's point, we should have a state legislation night or we invite all the state legislators and lawmakers who think they know more than we do and have all the suggestions. Maybe they can come in instead of watching cats they can see a live action version of what luxury looks like versus reality. And so, yeah, that might be great. Just a couple of quick updates. I wish I had a time frame for Lieutenant Governor Beckwith to show up but I also have repeatedly checked with his office, because as you may know two weeks ago I decided to invite him when I went to walk with us to see the disaster relief efforts and to just speak with us in community, but I still haven't heard anything. And I just want to remind folks that whatever party you decide to run on. You are the elected for all the Hoosiers in the state not just one group or one centralized group. So just wanted to say that. I appreciate the groundbreaking ceremony that I was able to attend and give some brief remarks on and it got me to think in, you know, the, the timeline of how everything happened with the convention center the blood sweat the tears the annoying times that everybody had to go through all the things and I just think about that as we proceed forward with our justice facility complex that we are imagining and try to figure out how we can do all those things here. Um, and kind of take some take some flavor from that as well. Um, the other thing that I really wanted to say in addition to this. Um, I made public comment at our city council meeting last week, and I wanted to because there was an interesting comment. There was an interesting comment that was being said that we have some county buildings that have some affordable housing units that are going to be going away by the expansion of the convention center. And I just want to, and you know there's a council member that basically said you know it's the county's buildings and didn't really give much umph into what it is that we should be doing and I actually had a constituent that reached out that wants to talk and I promise I'll talk to that constituent once I get to feeling better here soon. But I just want to remind people that you know we, our county council have the financial body component to this and so I just want to reiterate to any of our city colleagues that are paying attention to really try to work with us and really let's talk to each other first before we start talking at each other and we don't know what we're talking about. So I just really want us to figure out how we can do that because we all are passionate about affordable housing and attainable housing, but we just want to make sure that we're working together and not out of sync. So I again just wanted to make sure I say that and yes Councilmember Henry said the thing that I wanted to say in terms of Juneteenth celebration. I know it's being ripped apart from all avenues but the North always remembers and as long as people that look like me are continuing to be here that the Juneteenth celebration will continue. And so I'm as long as I feel better. I look forward to being out in the community with that as well. And I would be remiss if I didn't have anything to say about all the uncertainty that's happening that we see around the country. And I think that we have some community members right now that are looking to other places and wondering if Indiana is next. And I just want folks to know that I just stand with our community members who are feeling some type of way. Feeling so scared because we have leaders with the air quotes that think that they are by leading with fear that it's okay. Nothing is ever okay when you lead with fear. And there is no illegal human, point blank period. So that's all I have to say again. Thanks so much for the well wishes. I hate being on teams when I'm not in the building. And this is like killing me to not be there. But hopefully I will be back in the next couple of weeks. And just a major shout out to everybody at IU Health that took care of me during my spa day overnight this past weekend. So thank you. All right. Thank you, Madam Frankenstein. All right. We are at the end of our meeting, please remember to respect each other. Remember your breath. We are adjourned. (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music)