WEBVTT 00:00:00.130 --> 00:00:07.624 - We'll go ahead and start our meeting. I will call this meeting to order. Our regular county council 00:00:07.624 --> 00:00:15.418 - business, yay. I feel like I slept in here so much recently. So we have a quorum and it looks like from 00:00:15.418 --> 00:00:22.688 - council members here in the room, we're a little tight here, but we got Councilor Spital, Wilts, 00:00:22.688 --> 00:00:25.086 - and Decker, and it appears that 00:00:25.346 --> 00:00:33.942 - Council Member Hawke is joining us. And then of course, we have Council Members David Henry and I don't 00:00:33.942 --> 00:00:42.290 - see Councilor Iverson. Okay. But nonetheless, all the party people are here, so we will go ahead and 00:00:42.290 --> 00:00:50.887 - get started. But before we get started, all those that are able to stand, please stand for the reciting 00:00:50.887 --> 00:00:55.102 - of the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:55.810 --> 00:01:06.570 - of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, 00:01:06.570 --> 00:01:16.733 - with liberty and justice for all. All right. Thank you very much for that. Good to see you, Councilor 00:01:16.733 --> 00:01:22.910 - Hawk. All right. Does anybody wish to amend tonight's agenda? 00:01:27.394 --> 00:01:38.448 - Let me get my microphone in my throat here. Okay. So per request from the prosecutor's office, I move 00:01:38.448 --> 00:01:49.393 - to table items 8B, high tech crimes and item 8C, VOCA grant, additional appropriation request to the 00:01:49.393 --> 00:01:54.270 - October 27th County Council meeting. Second. 00:01:55.586 --> 00:02:04.956 - All right, we got a motion and a resounded two seconds. Is there any other questions? Well, no questions. 00:02:04.956 --> 00:02:13.883 - I guess we'll see. Are there any questions or comments on this move? All right. And seeing none, may 00:02:13.883 --> 00:02:22.899 - we have a roll call vote since we have members attended virtually. Councilor Crossley? Yes. Councilor 00:02:22.899 --> 00:02:25.374 - Hogg? Yes. Councilor Feidl? 00:02:25.570 --> 00:02:33.481 - Yes. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Decker? Yes. Motion passes unanimous. 00:02:33.481 --> 00:02:41.637 - All right. Thank you. Are there any other changes to tonight's agenda that councilors might wish to 00:02:41.637 --> 00:02:49.793 - make tonight? All right. Seeing none, we will go ahead and move forward. Next up are for items that 00:02:49.793 --> 00:02:54.686 - are not on the agenda, which is the public comment portion. 00:02:54.946 --> 00:03:00.841 - So if you are attending with us in person, or if you are virtually via Teams, you can either raise your 00:03:00.841 --> 00:03:06.793 - hand, state your name for the record, and you'll have up to three minutes. Or if you are here in person, 00:03:06.793 --> 00:03:12.518 - I feel like I'm talking to a blank room. If you're here in person, you can come to the lectern here. 00:03:12.518 --> 00:03:18.300 - Again, state your name for the record, and you'll have up to three minutes. So I'll go to Teams first 00:03:18.300 --> 00:03:21.758 - to see if there is anybody that wish to make public comment. 00:03:26.850 --> 00:03:34.399 - raised via teams, or anybody coming to the podium here, we will go ahead and keep going. So the next 00:03:34.399 --> 00:03:42.246 - portion of our agenda is the department updates. And these are for departments to make updates for items 00:03:42.246 --> 00:03:49.795 - not on tonight's agenda. Each department will have up to 10 minutes. Is there any department here in 00:03:49.795 --> 00:03:55.550 - the NetU Hill Room or virtually that would like to make a department update? 00:03:56.546 --> 00:04:05.783 - And I'll look to the auditor's office with Miss Woodruff. Yes. Hello. Good evening, Council. Good evening. 00:04:05.783 --> 00:04:14.847 - I'm going to share my screen. On the screen and on the tables in front of you, you should see an updated 00:04:14.847 --> 00:04:23.134 - ARPA project listing. And the only changes you should see on this document are the expenditures 00:04:23.234 --> 00:04:31.896 - departments have made so those items that are in the green section are going to be open projects on 00:04:31.896 --> 00:04:40.905 - the screen you'll see that two of them in the unexpended column are blue we ran into a situation excuse 00:04:40.905 --> 00:04:50.174 - me sorry where the septic one of the septic programs they needed a little bit of additional funding and so 00:04:50.914 --> 00:04:54.846 - We plan to move via an in-house transfer. 00:04:55.330 --> 00:05:01.341 - approximately $1,500 from the ARPA program support line to the septic line just to be able to pay that 00:05:01.341 --> 00:05:07.293 - contractor what they need to be able to get the septic in the ground and fully functional. Previously 00:05:07.293 --> 00:05:13.362 - we had done these via appropriation and deappropriation. This time we're going to do it via an in-house 00:05:13.362 --> 00:05:19.256 - transfer and we're just telling you that we're going to do this for full transparency and just since 00:05:19.256 --> 00:05:25.150 - we're at the end of this program and we have some deadlines approaching we don't have the time to do 00:05:25.506 --> 00:05:32.715 - additional appropriations. All right. Thank you for that update. Does anybody have any questions or 00:05:32.715 --> 00:05:40.140 - comments? Yes. Council member Wilts. And just just to be clear, the deadline for. Spending is. There's 00:05:40.140 --> 00:05:47.421 - an October deadline, but there's a December deadline. Can you tell me the two? I guess or is there a 00:05:47.421 --> 00:05:55.134 - September and December or two deadlines, right? Well, there are actually three deadlines specific project. 00:05:55.810 --> 00:06:03.241 - The deadline for vendors to complete the projects. I'm so sorry. The deadline for vendors to complete 00:06:03.241 --> 00:06:07.102 - the projects and submit in voices is September 30th. 00:06:07.266 --> 00:06:13.377 - There is an October deadline for the department. So this will be the health department to then submit 00:06:13.377 --> 00:06:19.367 - all those invoices for payment to the auditor and commissioner. And then the December deadline that 00:06:19.367 --> 00:06:25.418 - we hit on is going to be the deadline for the county to fully expend. So the reason we set the other 00:06:25.418 --> 00:06:31.409 - deadlines a little bit sooner is to give us a little bit of time and wiggle room that if we need to 00:06:31.409 --> 00:06:35.902 - move some pennies around, we're not giving anything back. And how are you? 00:06:36.226 --> 00:06:43.777 - meaning the auditor's office feeling about how that's going to play out. I mean, it looks like you've 00:06:43.777 --> 00:06:51.179 - got anticipated dates for most of these. We've done our absolute best to touch in with all of these 00:06:51.179 --> 00:06:58.952 - programs and make sure that we're good. We can't promise that they will close on the dates that we think 00:06:58.952 --> 00:07:06.206 - they will, but we're doing everything within our power to try to help those deadlines. Thank you. 00:07:07.746 --> 00:07:15.666 - So I have a quick question. So considering September 30th is a week from tomorrow, are there any outstanding 00:07:15.666 --> 00:07:23.150 - vendors that have yet to submit? So the deadline for this program, the septic, we do have some vendors 00:07:23.150 --> 00:07:30.489 - that we have not received the invoices. I have talked to the health department. They believe that we 00:07:30.489 --> 00:07:37.246 - are on track for all the open projects. There is one project that we heard about today where 00:07:38.114 --> 00:07:44.563 - It looks like an invoice may have been missed in the past for payment and that was not accounted for 00:07:44.563 --> 00:07:51.076 - on the obligations. Right now I believe the health department is looking for ways to pay for that out 00:07:51.076 --> 00:07:57.589 - of their own funding and not out of ARPA funding. It's a very small amount of $475. So it may come to 00:07:57.589 --> 00:08:04.166 - where we might have to look at doing an in-house transfer, but right now we are not trying to do that. 00:08:04.166 --> 00:08:07.806 - We're trying to have the health department pay for that. 00:08:08.354 --> 00:08:16.396 - departments have until October 30th to do this. Is there anything or anybody, and you don't have to 00:08:16.396 --> 00:08:24.438 - out anybody just in case, but is there anything or any department that's kind of given you a little 00:08:24.438 --> 00:08:33.043 - concern that we might not meet the deadline? I've got some really detailed responses from some departments 00:08:33.043 --> 00:08:38.110 - and other departments are a little more vague. I'd be happy to 00:08:38.626 --> 00:08:44.052 - present that at the next meeting if that's something you want, but I don't think I'm prepared to go 00:08:44.052 --> 00:08:49.804 - in detail to every single project today. And that's totally fine. I'm just trying to look to us to figure 00:08:49.804 --> 00:08:55.338 - out if there's any way that we can help you all as liaisons to departments and whatnot to really kind 00:08:55.338 --> 00:09:00.927 - of light a fire to make sure, you know, because if there are members of the public that are benefiting 00:09:00.927 --> 00:09:06.516 - from these projects and they might be in jeopardy of not getting completed because people aren't doing 00:09:06.516 --> 00:09:07.710 - what they need to do. 00:09:07.970 --> 00:09:17.420 - that we definitely need to light a fire and get to move it. But now this is a great time for us to say, 00:09:17.420 --> 00:09:26.689 - we should probably have our joint meeting here soon with the commissioners to go over the ARPA. Would 00:09:26.689 --> 00:09:32.414 - you think that it would be? Or are we? So the last time we had 00:09:32.674 --> 00:09:38.786 - meetings regarding ARPA, I believe there was a consensus that any additional dollars would go to the... 00:09:38.786 --> 00:09:44.840 - That's right. ...CARST, yes. And unless we run into issues where we have too much, which I don't think 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:50.952 - we're there right now, I don't think there'll be a need for a joint meeting. We're always happy to have 00:09:50.952 --> 00:09:56.946 - one, but I don't think we need one at this moment. Okay. Okay, cool. I'm totally spaced that I forgot 00:09:56.946 --> 00:10:00.414 - about that. Okay. Thank you so much. Councilor Hawke. Yes. 00:10:00.738 --> 00:10:09.036 - Could you repeat what you said about the health department? It's $475 or something like that, and they'll 00:10:09.036 --> 00:10:17.022 - take it out of their funds? Why would we want to do that? I mean, because we want ARPA to pay for it, 00:10:17.022 --> 00:10:24.851 - right? So what fund do they think they take it from? I believe they're investigating what funds can 00:10:24.851 --> 00:10:25.790 - pay for it. 00:10:25.890 --> 00:10:33.211 - What happened is we had an invoice that was dated for September of 2025 that was submitted to our office 00:10:33.211 --> 00:10:40.184 - today for payment that was not accounted for in the obligations. And the deadline for the vendor to 00:10:40.184 --> 00:10:47.226 - send that contractually to the county was September 1st of 2025. So they did miss that deadline. And 00:10:47.226 --> 00:10:54.408 - as far as our records and the vendor's records go, they don't see where it's been sent until this week 00:10:54.408 --> 00:10:55.454 - to the county. 00:10:57.986 --> 00:11:06.404 - So is this deadline a deadline that we set or something that is coming someplace else? Because I wanted 00:11:06.404 --> 00:11:14.579 - to come from ARPA money if we can. I mean, why? Is there any legal reason why we cannot take it from 00:11:14.579 --> 00:11:22.916 - the ARPA funds? As of right now, the invoice as it stands is not in compliance with the ARPA contract. 00:11:22.916 --> 00:11:27.934 - So we would have to update the ARPA contract with the vendor. 00:11:28.098 --> 00:11:35.327 - the contract with the health department and the commissioners, the ARPA plan, and then we would also 00:11:35.327 --> 00:11:42.628 - have to make that adjustment for the ARPA plan. I'm sorry, the appropriation. So when I talked to the 00:11:42.628 --> 00:11:49.785 - commissioner's administrator, it seemed like the desire was to have the health department fund that 00:11:49.785 --> 00:11:51.646 - out of their own dollars. 00:11:53.666 --> 00:12:02.607 - When you say their own dollars, it's the county dollars they're paying it out of. Anyway, you go at 00:12:02.607 --> 00:12:11.636 - it. So are you saying paying it for out of the 1159 fund or the 1161 fund or where? That would be up 00:12:11.636 --> 00:12:20.845 - to the Health Department. I mean, it's just like, oh well, it's $400,000. I can remember when that was 00:12:20.845 --> 00:12:21.918 - real money. 00:12:22.882 --> 00:12:32.336 - Now it won't even get my dog's teeth cleaned. There's nothing else to add to that. Okay, anybody else 00:12:32.336 --> 00:12:41.882 - have any other questions or comments on this item? All right. Thank you very much. Are there any other 00:12:41.882 --> 00:12:51.614 - department updates that would like to make an update? I think we got, yay, come on in. Well, come on in. 00:12:51.938 --> 00:12:59.202 - either sit or stand, whichever one you like. Good evening, counsel. How are you? Good evening. Great. 00:12:59.202 --> 00:13:06.750 - How are you doing? Good. I'm just here for a couple of things. First, I just wanted to thank you guys all 00:13:06.882 --> 00:13:12.444 - last time for welcoming kip and we all have kip and laura I have to be another part of my role is just 00:13:12.444 --> 00:13:17.951 - to go to other budget hearings and presenting and not all counties see the value of extension so it's 00:13:17.951 --> 00:13:23.351 - not an easy budget hearings but I always know that minor counties just you guys are very supportive 00:13:23.351 --> 00:13:28.804 - of us so again just want to thank you all for continuing support of extension just seeing the impact 00:13:28.804 --> 00:13:33.502 - the work that we do in our community it's really we're really really thankful for that 00:13:34.146 --> 00:13:39.995 - I have handouts I forgot to give Kip and Laura just talked a little bit about the transformation just 00:13:39.995 --> 00:13:45.729 - some more information if you all would like it just has more language on what transformation is and 00:13:45.729 --> 00:13:51.635 - what they're heading towards. I also wanted to clarify the additional educator role that they proposed 00:13:51.635 --> 00:13:53.470 - last week or so. So usually the 00:13:54.562 --> 00:14:00.641 - As Laura mentioned, a new educator role is like a general educator. And the priority right now is with 00:14:00.641 --> 00:14:07.134 - the transformation, they're moving, shuffling people around. And the priority is to have 4-H in every county. 00:14:07.394 --> 00:14:13.571 - program areas like health and agriculture. Those won't be in every county, but 4-H will. And so with 00:14:13.571 --> 00:14:20.114 - that, since we had two 4-H educators, part of the shuffling was one educator went to cover another county. 00:14:20.114 --> 00:14:26.352 - So we were down to really one educator. So with the additional educator, we're just going back to two 00:14:26.352 --> 00:14:32.468 - educators, what we were before. So I think you all were told that it would be three, but we're just 00:14:32.468 --> 00:14:37.360 - going back to two, because we lost one and we gained them back. So I apologize. 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:42.131 - to communicate that well with Laura. I just wanted to let you all know that's what the new educator 00:14:42.131 --> 00:14:47.045 - role would be, just to provide clarity for council. We weren't trying to sneak anything past you guys, 00:14:47.045 --> 00:14:51.912 - but just to provide clarity. I think I just didn't communicate that well with her. So that's what the 00:14:51.912 --> 00:14:56.778 - new educator role would be. And I was watching the recording, but I think they ran out of time. So if 00:14:56.778 --> 00:15:01.549 - there are any questions that council had about extension, I'm happy to answer them now. I know that 00:15:01.549 --> 00:15:06.654 - the public hearings, I think on the 6th, I'm happy to come back and answer questions. But I also wanted to 00:15:06.722 --> 00:15:13.915 - opportunity to answer any questions. I think they ran out of time at the last budget hearing. But thank 00:15:13.915 --> 00:15:21.316 - you again for having us. We appreciate it. Thank you. And while we got you here, we do have any questions. 00:15:21.316 --> 00:15:28.301 - I think we could ask those of you. So does anybody have any questions at all? Councillor Hawke? Yes, 00:15:28.301 --> 00:15:35.218 - I had to ask about which department person would be covering the planning because in the past, it's 00:15:35.218 --> 00:15:36.670 - always been somebody 00:15:36.802 --> 00:15:46.388 - from one of the educators or somebody from your department. And I understand that because of lack of 00:15:46.388 --> 00:15:55.974 - personnel, that there was a decision to appoint someone in the community that was familiar with what 00:15:55.974 --> 00:16:04.990 - would be needed. And I have since been told who that person is. And it appears that people are 00:16:05.858 --> 00:16:13.627 - pretty satisfied. So do you know who makes that appointment? Do you folks find somebody and appoint 00:16:13.627 --> 00:16:21.629 - it or is that come back to the county? So by the state statute, the county extension board would elect 00:16:21.629 --> 00:16:29.631 - somebody to be in the place if the educator is not there. So the extension board, people who appointed 00:16:29.631 --> 00:16:31.806 - Joe to be our interim until 00:16:32.610 --> 00:16:38.419 - who important appointed Joe to be our interim in the meantime so it's not necessarily uh the county 00:16:38.419 --> 00:16:44.519 - or the educators with the county um the extension board makes that appointment and extension board makes 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:50.328 - the appointment it does not necessarily have to be one of your staff it could just be anybody right 00:16:50.328 --> 00:16:56.311 - the board themselves i mean we help to facilitate the board we're there with them but the actual board 00:16:56.311 --> 00:16:59.390 - they're the ones who make that decision not up to us 00:17:01.986 --> 00:17:09.920 - and who appoints the board? We elect, or not elect, sorry, we find people who cover different program 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:17.466 - areas, who are also representative of the community, and so we find people to make up our board. 00:17:17.466 --> 00:17:25.400 - Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? Yes, Council Member Decker. The budget proposal we saw is helping 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:31.390 - us to kind of maintain the status quo. Am I saying that right? Yes, correct. 00:17:32.866 --> 00:17:40.566 - Thank you. Seeing no other further questions. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. All right. 00:17:40.566 --> 00:17:48.907 - Thank you, Council. I appreciate it. Of course. Thank you. Are there any other updates from departments 00:17:48.907 --> 00:17:57.088 - that would like to make an update that are not on tonight's agenda? All right. See, oh, yeah, Council 00:17:57.088 --> 00:18:02.462 - Member Woods. I had a question. I know it was a department update. 00:18:03.746 --> 00:18:13.831 - I don't even see anymore. But were we supposed to vote on that, auditors? I don't think so. But you 00:18:13.831 --> 00:18:24.622 - can clarify. That's okay. You're just letting us know. Yep. Got it. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. It's an in-house 00:18:24.622 --> 00:18:33.598 - transfer and council doesn't vote on in-house transfers. Thank you. Thank you very much. 00:18:34.242 --> 00:18:41.037 - yes we do oh and are you saying it depends on whether it's transferring within a category or if it's 00:18:41.037 --> 00:18:48.033 - transferring from one category to the next we do vote on that right if it's a category transfer council 00:18:48.033 --> 00:18:54.828 - votes this is an in-house transfer she was just letting uh you know that they were going to be doing 00:18:54.828 --> 00:19:01.623 - this they're both in the threes they're both in the threes got it thank you yes i was just gonna say 00:19:01.623 --> 00:19:02.430 - i think the 00:19:03.650 --> 00:19:09.953 - massive good thing that comes out of the way the auditor's office has handled this is the very public 00:19:09.953 --> 00:19:16.256 - way that we talk about ARPA and every nuance which sometimes is I think hard for them hard for us but 00:19:16.256 --> 00:19:22.683 - it is out here in the public for when people want to go back and because ARPA is so rare it's out there 00:19:22.683 --> 00:19:28.862 - in the public for when people want to go back much like the pandemic that preceded it there's a lot 00:19:28.862 --> 00:19:32.446 - people can sort through digest for future counselors down 00:19:34.114 --> 00:19:46.227 - Thank you. Thank you. All right. So seeing no other further questions or comments or any other department 00:19:46.227 --> 00:19:58.339 - updates, we will proceed with our agenda. And this is the consent agenda items that are next up. I didn't 00:19:58.339 --> 00:20:03.710 - go far enough. Excuse me. Yeah, there you are. 00:20:04.802 --> 00:20:14.216 - I moved to approve the following consent agenda items for September 22nd. The Highway Department's request 00:20:14.216 --> 00:20:23.191 - in fund 1176-0000 motor vehicle highway for a category transfer of $10,000 from the services category 00:20:23.191 --> 00:20:29.438 - to supplies category. That was the first part. Here's the second part. 00:20:30.178 --> 00:20:39.280 - The Highway Department's request in Fund 1169-0000 Local Road and Street for a category transfer of 00:20:39.280 --> 00:20:48.929 - $125,000 from the supplies category to the services category and $10,000 from the services to the capital 00:20:48.929 --> 00:20:53.662 - category for a total category transfer of $135,000. 00:20:55.522 --> 00:21:04.690 - all right we got a motion and a second is there any further discussion from council on these items all 00:21:04.690 --> 00:21:14.480 - right being none um we will have a voice vote or no not voice vote um may we have a roll call vote councillor 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:24.894 - crossley yes councillor iverson oh sorry councillor iverson is not present councillor fiddle yes councillor hogg yes 00:21:25.378 --> 00:21:33.956 - Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor Decker? Yes. Motion passes unanimous 6-0. All 00:21:33.956 --> 00:21:42.619 - right thank you very much and next up we will go to the hire and freeze reviews and first up is from 00:21:42.619 --> 00:21:45.278 - TSD. I'm ready. Yep go for it. 00:21:46.562 --> 00:21:54.448 - Council I move to open for discussion and possible approval the technical services department's request 00:21:54.448 --> 00:22:02.031 - to be exempt from the hiring freeze and be allowed to hire and fund 1000-0106 County General TSD to 00:22:02.031 --> 00:22:09.613 - part-time support technician positions. Second. All right. Thank you. We got a motion and a second. 00:22:09.613 --> 00:22:16.286 - We're here with Mr. Greg Cohn. Welcome. Thank you. Good evening everyone. Good evening. 00:22:16.450 --> 00:22:22.667 - So as it states in my description, the part-time technician that you allowed me to fill earlier in the 00:22:22.667 --> 00:22:28.885 - year, that technician was promoted to the full-time position that was opened up. So we did retain that 00:22:28.885 --> 00:22:35.102 - individual. The second part-time position that's become vacant was held by a local student who has now 00:22:35.102 --> 00:22:41.440 - graduated, has moved on to pursue his career in life, and has left us with another vacancy. Particularly 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:43.070 - with that second position, 00:22:43.266 --> 00:22:50.065 - That was largely meeting coverage that we utilize that person for. So again, we're having to have more 00:22:50.065 --> 00:22:56.797 - full time employee coverage for these meetings and some of the stuff that's going on at night because 00:22:56.797 --> 00:23:02.078 - we do flex instead of earning comp. We are short staffed. We are running a gap. 00:23:02.274 --> 00:23:07.966 - It'd be a lot worse if we were doing everything on comp. So we're doing the best we can to manage it. 00:23:07.966 --> 00:23:13.937 - But we are seeing the issues coming up with those two vacancies. Additionally, right now, while temporary, 00:23:13.937 --> 00:23:19.797 - I do have someone out on paternity leave. So that's another extension. So that's created another vacancy 00:23:19.797 --> 00:23:25.489 - that's created this vacuum. So that's why I'm requesting both positions, please. OK. All right. Thank 00:23:25.489 --> 00:23:30.846 - you very much. And it's good to hear we retained one. And best of luck to the student who left. 00:23:31.074 --> 00:23:37.433 - All right, any other questions or any questions or comments? Yes, Councilor Decker. I had just a kind 00:23:37.433 --> 00:23:43.917 - of operational question about the help desk. I don't recall time I've ever called in random places I've 00:23:43.917 --> 00:23:49.278 - been in the world that I've not got a response. What are the hours 24 seven or is it? 00:23:49.442 --> 00:23:56.302 - 24 7365 so we maintain our office from 8 a.m. actually 730 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday and 00:23:56.302 --> 00:24:03.369 - then it goes on to an on-call rotation after normal operating hours so the way we do that we have four 00:24:03.369 --> 00:24:10.229 - full-time technicians who share that so one week out of every month a full-time tech is covering 24 00:24:10.229 --> 00:24:17.570 - 7 on call during those hours that were closed so yes we do maintain constant coverage you have to remember 00:24:17.570 --> 00:24:18.942 - to we have the jail 00:24:19.042 --> 00:24:25.850 - the sheriff's deputies and the youth services bureau that are 24 seven facilities so we have to maintain 00:24:25.850 --> 00:24:32.398 - that we do get calls not so much from the shelter but the jail and patrol deputies that is a routine 00:24:32.398 --> 00:24:38.946 - that we get calls from them during that so they never seem surprised at the time or the question and 00:24:38.946 --> 00:24:45.495 - that's why i kind of ask that because it does seem to be you know a real evident wraparound services 00:24:45.495 --> 00:24:48.542 - and i would say to council if we think back to 00:24:48.674 --> 00:24:55.200 - things counties and localities pay for today that they did not back in the day, there was a time where 00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:01.726 - A, that department didn't exist and those hours would definitely not be staffed, but now counties have 00:25:01.726 --> 00:25:08.125 - to do that and it's different than our predecessors and you can't go away from that. You gotta do it 00:25:08.125 --> 00:25:14.525 - with everything everybody's doing and the tech involved. All right, that's all I got. Thank you very 00:25:14.525 --> 00:25:17.566 - much. I will go to Council Member Hock and then 00:25:17.890 --> 00:25:25.161 - Councilmember Henry next. Just in response to some of your statements there, of course, I knew you were 00:25:25.161 --> 00:25:32.501 - 24-7 because if I ever need anything, you guys are there. But I hear that you spent a lot of time having 00:25:32.501 --> 00:25:39.562 - to do with because the jail was 24-7. And right away I'm thinking about, well, could we put like one 00:25:39.562 --> 00:25:41.310 - fourth of this position? 00:25:41.538 --> 00:25:48.095 - Yeah, I mean, you know, we're trying to figure out a way to make all the numbers work. I just wanted 00:25:48.095 --> 00:25:54.848 - to throw that out there. I'm not saying that's anything anybody would do. But if we ever get desperate, 00:25:54.848 --> 00:26:01.470 - those are the kinds of things we have to look for. Like one fourth of the expense or something of the 00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:08.222 - sort to and then we can put it in the jail lit and not in county general. Just thoughts for the moment. 00:26:11.394 --> 00:26:18.240 - Council Member Henry. Thank you. I appreciate that. Greg, to follow up on Councilor Deckard's comment 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:25.020 - then, so the on-call, are they working virtually? I mean, so there's an opportunity for them to work 00:26:25.020 --> 00:26:31.799 - virtually or are they driving in? What does that look like after hours? For the after hours on-call, 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:38.713 - we operate under two formats. If it's a call that, let's say it's a simple, I need to have my password 00:26:38.713 --> 00:26:39.518 - reset call. 00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:45.974 - we can still do that the interfaces we have that's about a 10 minute process so the tech is clocked 00:26:45.974 --> 00:26:52.361 - is credited 15 minutes if it's something that can't be fixed through that method through some of the 00:26:52.361 --> 00:26:58.685 - interfaces we have and the technician has to drive in which we do then that's a minimum two hour so 00:26:58.685 --> 00:27:01.278 - there is lots of times we get called out 00:27:01.570 --> 00:27:07.327 - seems to happen a lot with the jail when they go into a shift change. Your second shift starts at midnight. 00:27:07.327 --> 00:27:12.870 - There are plenty of times we get called out at midnight 1 a.m. and have to drive into the jail. So it's 00:27:12.870 --> 00:27:18.307 - a mix of that counselor. Okay now that's helpful. So it does sound like there's some virtual work and 00:27:18.307 --> 00:27:23.691 - you've got logs that show when someone's working virtually versus driving in and okay. Yes sir. Yeah 00:27:23.691 --> 00:27:27.262 - I appreciate that. Counselor Hawk I appreciate your comment too on 00:27:27.522 --> 00:27:33.829 - you know, what you're describing as basically cost centers, you know, where we could be looking at that 00:27:33.829 --> 00:27:39.893 - holistically in the years to come through PAC or WIS about, you know, if we have employees that are 00:27:39.893 --> 00:27:46.199 - drawing on multiple or supporting a multiple services, like there's ways to fund of FT through multiple 00:27:46.199 --> 00:27:52.324 - lines that might be interesting in the future. So I appreciate your suggestion there too. Thank you, 00:27:52.324 --> 00:27:57.054 - Madam President. Thank you. Anybody else have any other questions? All right. 00:27:57.474 --> 00:28:05.491 - Seeing none, we'll move to public comment. If there's public comment on this item, raise your hand via 00:28:05.491 --> 00:28:13.275 - team so you can come forward to the lectern here in the room. Seeing none, maybe please have a roll 00:28:13.275 --> 00:28:21.759 - call vote. Councilor Feidl? Yes. Councilor Hawke? Yes. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:26.974 - Decker? Yes. Councilor Crossley? Yes. Motion passes unanimous 6-0. 00:28:27.234 --> 00:28:35.147 - Thank you very much. Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Next up is from the health department. 00:28:35.147 --> 00:28:42.541 - Council, I move to open for discussion and possible approval. The health department's request to be 00:28:42.541 --> 00:28:50.306 - exempt from the hiring freeze and be allowed to hire and fund 12 zero six dash zero zero zero zero local 00:28:50.306 --> 00:28:56.222 - health department trust account one maternal child health coordinator position. 00:28:56.994 --> 00:29:06.495 - second. We got a motion and a second. We're joined here by Dr. Sarah writer. Welcome. Good evening. 00:29:06.495 --> 00:29:16.187 - Good evening. So as you see in your packet, we have had our maternal child health coordinator poached 00:29:16.187 --> 00:29:25.118 - by the state. And so we are in a position of wanting to replace that individual. She has done 00:29:25.634 --> 00:29:34.810 - as you can see in your packet, a lot of good work over the time coordinating, running around the city 00:29:34.810 --> 00:29:44.076 - and county, handing out childcare seats when people were in accidents or in the middle of the day when 00:29:44.076 --> 00:29:53.343 - something happened and they had to have them replaced. So she did that. She also was working under the 00:29:53.343 --> 00:29:54.782 - grant, which is 00:29:55.010 --> 00:30:05.298 - part of our HFI grant to simply help reduce the amount of infant mortality, which is still very high 00:30:05.298 --> 00:30:15.483 - in the state. It's one of the highest states, unfortunately. Some of the efforts in HFI have helped 00:30:15.483 --> 00:30:22.206 - to reduce that, but we're nowhere near where we would want to be. 00:30:22.434 --> 00:30:30.762 - as a state, and our maternal child care coordinator was the person who would work with the pregnant 00:30:30.762 --> 00:30:39.090 - moms, then would work with them after they delivered, and also did some of the education. They also 00:30:39.090 --> 00:30:47.501 - did tobacco education. The rest of tobacco education was withdrawn from HFI funding, but it was kept 00:30:47.501 --> 00:30:51.582 - in this area because it is such a contributor to 00:30:52.290 --> 00:31:03.754 - at least infant morbidity, if not mortality. So at least we were able to continue to do tobacco education 00:31:03.754 --> 00:31:15.109 - at that level and extend it as much as we could. I'm certainly open to questions from the members. Thank 00:31:15.109 --> 00:31:21.598 - you very much. Anybody have any questions or comments? Yes. 00:31:21.730 --> 00:31:30.037 - right? I remember looking at the packet online and I was thinking some of these showed what the balances 00:31:30.037 --> 00:31:38.107 - were and what was available. Is that it's not here on what I'm looking at. I mean, I'm looking to the 00:31:38.107 --> 00:31:46.176 - Auditor's Office and would you tell me that this is sustainable for us to do this and there's revenue 00:31:46.176 --> 00:31:50.686 - for it? I mean, because I'm not seeing that here. Just a 00:31:50.818 --> 00:31:59.682 - I understand the question. You're asking if it's sustainable in the fund? I mean, this doesn't show 00:31:59.682 --> 00:32:08.723 - the balance or anything in the fund, but I know it's it. I think you sent it to us online. Some of it 00:32:08.723 --> 00:32:17.676 - was it didn't look like there was enough money for it, but this might not have been the one. I don't 00:32:17.676 --> 00:32:20.158 - have my laptop with me, so. 00:32:20.482 --> 00:32:27.962 - I can't look at it. Give me just a second. I'm pulling up the 4B information. While Ms. Woodruff is 00:32:27.962 --> 00:32:35.592 - looking at that, does anybody have any other questions? Yes, Council Member Wilts. This is a point of 00:32:35.592 --> 00:32:43.297 - curiosity and absolutely no pressure if you don't have this figure off the top of your head. But under 00:32:43.297 --> 00:32:47.710 - the trauma and injury prevention section in the narrative, 00:32:48.482 --> 00:32:58.400 - It said that in 2025, drowning was the fourth leading cause of injury resulting in accidental death 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:08.317 - in Monroe County. What it is across the state is particularly, we see it in infants. When the state 00:33:08.317 --> 00:33:17.342 - looks at it all, children are certainly subject to drowning as one of the important deaths 00:33:17.666 --> 00:33:27.688 - that we see, but the highest rate is under age one. So certainly educating parents about how they handle 00:33:27.688 --> 00:33:37.424 - their children in the bath, making sure, obviously, that you don't take them to the swimming pool and 00:33:37.424 --> 00:33:46.206 - let them go, as well as trying to educate parents in terms of safe sleep. That's one of the 00:33:46.338 --> 00:33:54.235 - big, big programs that is important in this. So yes, in terms of education, those are some of the primary 00:33:54.235 --> 00:34:01.982 - objectives. Well, that was exactly, you answered what I needed to know because it goes on to talk about 00:34:01.982 --> 00:34:09.656 - accidental drowning water safety with respect to water safety kits, and it was about swimming. And I'm 00:34:09.656 --> 00:34:16.286 - thinking, gosh, I bet it's not just swimming in a swimming pool. It's not just swimming. 00:34:16.482 --> 00:34:24.813 - Thank you. Miss Woodruff. And I did do some research on this fund. It looks like there is currently 00:34:24.813 --> 00:34:33.145 - no revenue that's anticipated in this fund. This is the only line, the salary and the FICA perf. So 00:34:33.145 --> 00:34:41.560 - the fringe associated with the main salary. We do expect if that line were to be fully expended this 00:34:41.560 --> 00:34:46.142 - year, we would end the year at roughly 35,000 and then 00:34:46.530 --> 00:34:53.900 - it looks like the budget for next year is $35,000 and change. So if they fully expend this 00:34:53.900 --> 00:35:02.161 - year's appropriation and next year's, they should end the year, looks like about negative $500. Given 00:35:02.161 --> 00:35:10.584 - the gap that we're seeing right now, I wouldn't anticipate for them to spend this full year unless they 00:35:10.584 --> 00:35:15.038 - do in-house transfers. Council Member Hawke, does that 00:35:15.234 --> 00:35:24.114 - answer your question. It does makes it's the kind of thing that we need to know. And I appreciate you 00:35:24.114 --> 00:35:33.254 - letting us know. It looks like it's if you're going to be short about 500 or something. So if they don't 00:35:33.254 --> 00:35:41.699 - fill it immediately, even a week or so that would make up the difference, right? Correct. That's 00:35:41.699 --> 00:35:43.614 - Councilmember Decker. 00:35:45.218 --> 00:35:54.935 - This is a classic example of something where there's immense amounts of important details in the position 00:35:54.935 --> 00:36:04.470 - and what we're doing but there's a larger topic here that is red flashing lights and one that sometimes 00:36:04.470 --> 00:36:14.462 - I think council never fully can get to because we get hung up in the in the ledger but my question doctor is 00:36:15.842 --> 00:36:22.689 - with all, and I'm saying this as a parent, among parents, among constituents, how does this coordinator 00:36:22.689 --> 00:36:29.866 - really effectively, when they're doing their job well, how do they get to all these people in very difficult 00:36:29.866 --> 00:36:36.647 - situations that sometimes turn into these, how do they do this job to be among folks that are not here 00:36:36.647 --> 00:36:43.362 - in the Na'u Hill, or I know how, like when you're at the hospital, how you leave there with lots, but 00:36:43.362 --> 00:36:44.350 - how does this, 00:36:44.546 --> 00:36:53.769 - county employee get out there to do this well? I'll tell you first of all that she's not the only maternal 00:36:53.769 --> 00:37:02.993 - child health coordinator in the county. There's also one through IU Health. This individual was partnering 00:37:02.993 --> 00:37:11.958 - a lot with Tandem, so a lot of the clients she got were through that particular network. I was offering 00:37:11.958 --> 00:37:13.854 - multiple suggestions. 00:37:13.986 --> 00:37:24.282 - as to agencies, pantries, all of the places that I would reach out to in her position to try and reach 00:37:24.282 --> 00:37:34.677 - people who may be underserved. And I believe that really your question is, how do we reach those folks? 00:37:34.677 --> 00:37:42.174 - And I suggested obviously connecting with doulas in the community as well. 00:37:44.226 --> 00:37:54.329 - And I can only make those suggestions. I can't force anyone's hands. So yes, what I would hope is that 00:37:54.329 --> 00:38:04.432 - we find a better way to coordinate activities with the other eternal child health coordinator so that, 00:38:04.432 --> 00:38:14.142 - one, we're not duplicating services such as Milk Bank and that we're more able to expand our reach 00:38:14.466 --> 00:38:22.450 - and our effect in this community. And again, I don't have the crystal ball to tell you that that's what 00:38:22.450 --> 00:38:30.358 - will happen, but that's my dream. Well, I like dreams and I like thinking about this in very big terms 00:38:30.358 --> 00:38:38.035 - to get to lots of different places. And I know that we've talked in other meetings about, you know, 00:38:38.035 --> 00:38:42.334 - a mobile unit, not a mobile unit, all those things, but 00:38:42.690 --> 00:38:49.819 - This is a big county with a lot of geography that is often very separated out among busy people that 00:38:49.819 --> 00:38:56.878 - are just overwhelmed and penetrating that message out to those areas and into those homes and where 00:38:56.878 --> 00:39:03.937 - you can. Some people don't want that or they don't they got to figure it out. But I think this is a 00:39:03.937 --> 00:39:11.207 - larger discussion to help with that vision and dream. So thank you. The only thing I was going to add, 00:39:11.207 --> 00:39:12.478 - well, you kind of 00:39:12.962 --> 00:39:19.987 - answered a question that I had because and obviously with you know some moving parts that are missing 00:39:19.987 --> 00:39:27.081 - right now currently in the health department. I just wanted to know like in the future if you did have 00:39:27.081 --> 00:39:34.176 - a crystal ball like what that partnership would look like because one person doing all of this I would 00:39:34.176 --> 00:39:40.030 - think that maybe we could collaborate with other entities in the community to try to 00:39:40.386 --> 00:39:48.772 - to expand upon that. So I'm just kind of thinking of something that you said last week during budget. 00:39:48.772 --> 00:39:56.417 - But then you just said it. So nothing else needs to be said. All right. Any other questions? 00:39:56.417 --> 00:40:05.296 - Yes. Councilmember Woods. As just a reaction, I think, to you bringing up the suggestions about partnering, 00:40:05.296 --> 00:40:09.982 - which I think is foundational to really being effective. 00:40:10.754 --> 00:40:19.436 - I just spent the afternoon with the Monroe County Health Equity Coalition. They've changed their name. 00:40:19.436 --> 00:40:28.034 - And that's an organization that is still, I would say, in its infancy, finding its feet, figuring out 00:40:28.034 --> 00:40:36.716 - exactly how it can be helpful. But as they mature over, and I think after today, there's a process for 00:40:36.716 --> 00:40:39.582 - that put in place, they might be, 00:40:40.418 --> 00:40:48.574 - able to help make connections and make the case and reach underserved folks because that's part of their 00:40:48.574 --> 00:40:56.342 - mission is reaching underserved audiences around health issues and connecting them to services. I'm 00:40:56.342 --> 00:41:04.110 - just throwing that out there to keep them in your tote bag. One of the other things I had suggested 00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:10.014 - was that she reach out to the township offices because our township offices 00:41:10.146 --> 00:41:18.595 - know who is in need and so again I'm only one human and I can only make suggestions I can't force people 00:41:18.595 --> 00:41:26.802 - but I know that there are lots of ways that we can reach people in this county and I hope that that's 00:41:26.802 --> 00:41:31.710 - what we're going to be doing more of me too thanks very much 00:41:32.226 --> 00:41:40.912 - And seeing no other further questions or comments, we'll move to public comment. If there's public comment, 00:41:40.912 --> 00:41:49.357 - you can come forward to the lectern here in the room or raise your hand via Teams. All right, and seeing 00:41:49.357 --> 00:41:57.481 - none, maybe please have a roll call vote. Councilor Feil? Yes. Councilor Hawk? Yes. Councilor Wilts? 00:41:57.481 --> 00:42:01.502 - Yes. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor Decker? Yes. 00:42:01.666 --> 00:42:09.861 - Councilor Crossley? Yes. Motion passes unanimous 6-0. Thank you very much. Next up is item C from the 00:42:09.861 --> 00:42:18.217 - Health Department. Council, I move to open for discussion and possible approval the Health Department's 00:42:18.217 --> 00:42:26.734 - request to be exempt from the hiring freeze and be allowed to hire and fund 1161-9625 Local Public Health 00:42:26.734 --> 00:42:30.430 - Services HFI 1 Health Administrator position. 00:42:31.330 --> 00:42:40.108 - Second. All right, we got a motion and a second. What would you like to add to this item? Well, as you 00:42:40.108 --> 00:42:48.715 - are well aware, we have no health administrator per se at the time. We are now meeting as a team and 00:42:48.715 --> 00:42:57.237 - had our very first team meeting today. And we'll continue to meet, have invited our two liaisons to 00:42:57.237 --> 00:42:58.686 - meet with us and 00:42:59.010 --> 00:43:08.269 - haven't heard back from them quite yet. We need an administrator and I am reaching out to my managers 00:43:08.269 --> 00:43:17.437 - to try and begin to gather what qualities they would like to see in their next administrator. I know 00:43:17.437 --> 00:43:27.422 - I have needs and I know that there are different departments in this county that also have some very specific 00:43:27.906 --> 00:43:36.240 - that they would enjoy having in their next administrator for the health department. It's a big job, 00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:44.823 - and it may well take a team of people to do it together, but if we can find one magical person who can 00:43:44.823 --> 00:43:53.323 - handle all of the parts and keep them all juggling all of those balls up in the air at the same time, 00:43:53.323 --> 00:43:56.990 - I would be delighted to have that person to 00:43:57.250 --> 00:44:04.538 - with in moving this health department forward. Thank you very much. Any questions or comments? Councilmember 00:44:04.538 --> 00:44:11.224 - Henry. Thank you, Madam President. Thank you, Dr. Rayderband. I apologize to you in the room that I 00:44:11.224 --> 00:44:17.977 - have not been able to connect with you and the team to talk about this before this evening. I'm also 00:44:17.977 --> 00:44:25.064 - practicing some social distancing as I'm under the weather and I didn't want to, you know, go to a public 00:44:25.064 --> 00:44:26.334 - health meeting and 00:44:26.530 --> 00:44:33.822 - Yeah, be spreading the germs around. So I ask your indulgence there. I wanted to say, I appreciate the 00:44:33.822 --> 00:44:41.113 - way that you're going about this very deliberately to canvas the workforce about needs. It sounds like 00:44:41.113 --> 00:44:48.193 - you're having some conversations in the community about ways to rethink the position. And I want to 00:44:48.193 --> 00:44:53.502 - say I appreciate that. I guess my first question really then is if you are 00:44:54.146 --> 00:45:00.041 - working through sort of re-imagining what that role could be, would it make sense to come back to us 00:45:00.041 --> 00:45:05.995 - in like two weeks with a packet entry kind of like the maternal health entry that you provided in the 00:45:05.995 --> 00:45:11.891 - previous item to really show us kind of what it is we're putting out onto the market? And I say that 00:45:11.891 --> 00:45:17.786 - because it sounds like if we put the current job description out or position description out and you 00:45:17.786 --> 00:45:23.390 - are discovering things you want to change, I would hate to delay the hiring of somebody because 00:45:23.490 --> 00:45:32.657 - things are changing. Does that make sense? I'm not exactly sure I'm understanding you. There is a clearly 00:45:32.657 --> 00:45:41.392 - is a job description. I think that it's the job description that would go online for the and that it 00:45:41.392 --> 00:45:50.213 - would be in the hiring process that we would work our way through what qualities are they bringing to 00:45:50.213 --> 00:45:52.894 - the table that would make them 00:45:53.058 --> 00:46:01.464 - best fit for the personnel within the health department and to work with all of the other groups not 00:46:01.464 --> 00:46:09.953 - only in the community but within the county. So you don't see the the team approach changing anything 00:46:09.953 --> 00:46:18.276 - in the position description now because that's what I'm asking is like is it that much of a change? 00:46:18.276 --> 00:46:20.190 - Yeah I'm not sure that 00:46:21.090 --> 00:46:30.912 - I think that a good administrator would, and this is just my opinion with no background whatsoever in 00:46:30.912 --> 00:46:41.312 - administration, but that a good administrator works as a team. They are working with all of their managers. 00:46:41.312 --> 00:46:50.942 - They are working with other county directors and listening and sharing and hearing them accurately. 00:46:51.682 --> 00:47:01.060 - The team may well be an individual who has all of that capability and knows how to use a finance director 00:47:01.060 --> 00:47:09.907 - well, knows how to use the personnel that are already within the department, and has vision for how 00:47:09.907 --> 00:47:19.108 - can they both balance what the board wants and what are the best interests of this community. Does that 00:47:19.108 --> 00:47:21.054 - answer your question? 00:47:21.826 --> 00:47:28.837 - It gets there, and again, thank you for answering, and I'm sorry I can't be in the room. I know there's 00:47:28.837 --> 00:47:35.578 - delay and audible issues. I guess, yeah, and I think it's worth saying, you know, that the way that 00:47:35.578 --> 00:47:42.387 - we handed off this position last time was interesting in the community. It predated your time on the 00:47:42.387 --> 00:47:45.758 - board. You came on on 23. As I understand it from 00:47:46.050 --> 00:47:53.010 - former board members, you know, Penny Cottle had retired in June of 22, and Ms. Kelly came on in July 00:47:53.010 --> 00:48:00.176 - of 22, and there wasn't really, you know, a transition between them. You know, it was sort of one person 00:48:00.176 --> 00:48:06.590 - walked out of the office, the next person walked in. We have an opportunity here, I think, to 00:48:07.682 --> 00:48:15.350 - go into the market and put that position out into the world to see who, as you said, we find that special, 00:48:15.350 --> 00:48:22.659 - that magic person, I guess. So I'm concerned about the handoff, right? And this is an abrupt one, and 00:48:22.659 --> 00:48:30.040 - I know we're gonna, we have some issues around that, but that's fine. But I guess I raise that to say, 00:48:30.040 --> 00:48:37.278 - are you looking to market nationally for this, through like, NACCHO, or like, what is your plan for, 00:48:37.378 --> 00:48:47.617 - finding that person. I will certainly put it out through NASHO because they are community health and 00:48:47.617 --> 00:48:58.363 - but it will also go through IDOH so it may well be that there is someone within IDOH who would be willing 00:48:58.363 --> 00:49:06.878 - to take on Monroe County having done their work at IDOH. We'll put it to the public 00:49:07.330 --> 00:49:16.920 - at the School of Public Health will put it out anywhere and everywhere. And I think the one thing that 00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:26.231 - I heard in your statement was that, you know, that Penny ended and Lori started and there was a six 00:49:26.231 --> 00:49:36.286 - month, as I understand it, I wasn't here, but there was a six month overlap where indeed Penny was training 00:49:37.282 --> 00:49:45.402 - Lori to be the health administrator. So yes, you're right. This is abrupt and it won't be the first 00:49:45.402 --> 00:49:53.685 - abrupt change that IDOH has had to deal with. They've already come down last week and spent some time 00:49:53.685 --> 00:50:02.942 - with the team from our regional, our southern regional representative from IDOH. And she spent two hours with us. 00:50:03.202 --> 00:50:13.282 - answering many of our questions and is always available to us. We're very fortunate in that your new 00:50:13.282 --> 00:50:23.462 - head of human relations has been a health administrator and has also offered to meet with us and help 00:50:23.462 --> 00:50:27.454 - us in this process and has told us that 00:50:28.066 --> 00:50:36.323 - She's someone we can rely on for guidance. So we have a lot of guidance from both IDOH and locally. 00:50:36.323 --> 00:50:44.663 - And over time, as I have gone to meetings through IDOH, I've been able to meet a lot of other health 00:50:44.663 --> 00:50:52.920 - administrators and health officers who also have reached out and are willing to help and support us 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.654 - in any way possible. 00:50:56.450 --> 00:51:04.156 - looks really big to me, but in the moment, it would be really helpful just to have the approval so that 00:51:04.156 --> 00:51:11.565 - we can post this and start to look at possible candidates for the role because yes, it's a big role 00:51:11.565 --> 00:51:18.975 - and they are big shoes to step into and I would like them to be gorgeous shoes and I'd like them to 00:51:18.975 --> 00:51:26.014 - be worn and that this person should be able to dance with everything that goes on around here. 00:51:26.658 --> 00:51:32.849 - Thank you for your answers. I appreciate it. Thank you, Madam President. Thank you. Yes, Council Member 00:51:32.849 --> 00:51:38.802 - Deckard. I just wanted to add on this. I do recall the overlap time period. I did not recall it was 00:51:38.802 --> 00:51:44.994 - six months, but I knew it was considerable because we've been in that model for some time. And if there 00:51:44.994 --> 00:51:50.947 - ever was a place where you would put that overlap, it certainly would be there if you're able. This 00:51:50.947 --> 00:51:56.126 - is obviously a situation that that's just not in the cards and that's just part of it. 00:51:56.514 --> 00:52:02.803 - I do want to say on the you know sometimes we look externally sometimes we look broadly and what do 00:52:02.803 --> 00:52:09.469 - I know but I will say this penny coddles name came up and I just want to say on this microphone something 00:52:09.469 --> 00:52:16.009 - I thought think of often when I see her name or find her in the community and she doesn't run shrieking 00:52:16.009 --> 00:52:22.298 - from another county official. I firmly believe we got to the other side of that pandemic because of 00:52:22.298 --> 00:52:23.870 - that woman's leadership. 00:52:24.354 --> 00:52:30.995 - And I think that her heart, she stood at that very podium right there many times, two tears over our 00:52:30.995 --> 00:52:37.702 - very constituents. I think that that held us together in a lot of situations. And I think it's a good 00:52:37.702 --> 00:52:44.343 - example of you're talking about dreams and visions and all that. And I think a health department can 00:52:44.343 --> 00:52:50.918 - do that. I think that's part of what you're maybe looking for out there and you'll know it when you 00:52:50.918 --> 00:52:54.206 - find it or you'll know when you're still looking. 00:52:54.306 --> 00:53:00.869 - I didn't want her name to get past this podium without saying that. And that said, I am going to vote 00:53:00.869 --> 00:53:07.432 - yes on this because we absolutely have to have this role and we have to have that department and your 00:53:07.432 --> 00:53:13.994 - board and everything else as healthy as we can get it for those moments that may come, God forbid, as 00:53:13.994 --> 00:53:20.750 - we did in 2020 and 2021, where literally everyone knew the name Penny Cottle and her voice on the radio. 00:53:20.750 --> 00:53:23.710 - They knew that more than they knew any of us. 00:53:23.810 --> 00:53:33.159 - and for good cause and good reason. Thank you very much. And it is reassuring that our HR directors 00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:43.162 - jack of all trades. So that would be helpful. And I do think that to some of the points that Councilmember 00:53:43.162 --> 00:53:45.406 - Henry had made, I think 00:53:45.762 --> 00:53:53.095 - because this person also will work with IDOH. You kind of said something that sparked my spidey senses 00:53:53.095 --> 00:54:00.641 - is that maybe, I don't know what the process looks like, but if there's a way that maybe a representative 00:54:00.641 --> 00:54:07.902 - could be involved, as you all are kind of going through and vetting and interviewing, maybe that will 00:54:07.902 --> 00:54:14.238 - give us some type of perspective, so to speak, that maybe we're not used to having here. 00:54:14.498 --> 00:54:20.627 - So that's just one thing that I was just thinking about is because, you know, they've been working in 00:54:20.627 --> 00:54:26.756 - tandem with you as well as we navigate this process. So I think that would be something that might be 00:54:26.756 --> 00:54:32.946 - helpful as well. All right. So seeing no other further questions or comments on this item, I will move 00:54:32.946 --> 00:54:39.195 - to public comment. If there's public comment, you can raise your hand via Teams or you can come forward 00:54:39.195 --> 00:54:41.118 - to the podium here in the room. 00:54:45.506 --> 00:54:59.621 - and seeing none, maybe please have a roll call vote. Councilor Hawk. Councilor Wilts. Yes. Councilor 00:54:59.621 --> 00:55:15.134 - Henry. Abstain. Councilor Decker. Yes. Councilor Crosley. Yes. I say yes. Councilor Feidl. Yes. Motion passes. 00:55:15.938 --> 00:55:25.510 - five zero one abstain all right thank you thank you very much all right next up is item eight we will 00:55:25.510 --> 00:55:35.552 - move to council business from the clerk's office council i moved open for discussion and possible approval 00:55:35.552 --> 00:55:45.406 - the clerk's office request and fund one two one five dash zero zero six two election fund election board 00:55:45.730 --> 00:55:57.949 - to add new account lines as outlined on the agenda and simultaneously approve additional appropriations 00:55:57.949 --> 00:56:09.815 - of $25,050 in the personnel category, $25,500 in the supplies category, and $273,450 in the services 00:56:09.815 --> 00:56:15.454 - category for a total appropriation of $324,000. 00:56:16.258 --> 00:56:21.278 - We got a motion in a second. We are joined here by Ms. Kylie Farris and Mr. Tanner Branham. Welcome. 00:56:21.278 --> 00:56:24.062 - Good evening, council. Thank you for having us tonight. 00:56:24.482 --> 00:56:30.353 - We are here to request additional appropriations to fund the 2026 general election. In the spring of 00:56:30.353 --> 00:56:36.341 - this year, the clerk came before you to request funding for both the primary and the general election. 00:56:36.341 --> 00:56:42.328 - And in that meeting, the council chose to fund the primary and suggested that we would come back later 00:56:42.328 --> 00:56:48.606 - to request funding for the general election. And so we are here tonight to request that additional funding. 00:56:49.762 --> 00:56:57.883 - We are also requesting the creation of three new lines. These are to allow us to add appropriations 00:56:57.883 --> 00:57:06.086 - to three lines that we could not request additional appropriations for because they were in the edit 00:57:06.086 --> 00:57:14.451 - plan and could not be edited. So that is why we are requesting the creation of three new account lines 00:57:14.451 --> 00:57:18.430 - is to cover those expenses. Thank you very much. 00:57:19.202 --> 00:57:29.106 - All right, any questions or comments from council on this item? Council Member Woltz and Dr. Next. 00:57:29.106 --> 00:57:39.211 - Two things, if you wouldn't mind pointing out which lines were moved from the edit, do you happen to 00:57:39.211 --> 00:57:46.014 - know? Yes, so it was, yes, so in the edit, it was our three, sorry, 00:57:46.146 --> 00:57:55.730 - 3006 contractual services, 30028 training and, oh, sorry, 2001 office supplies, 22002 machine precinct 00:57:55.730 --> 00:58:05.966 - supplies, 22003 precinct setup supplies. So those three lines were in the edit plan. And so we are requesting 00:58:05.966 --> 00:58:15.550 - the creation of three new ones, which will be 20001 office supplies, 22002 machine precinct, and 22003 00:58:16.098 --> 00:58:23.387 - increasing setup supplies. So basically recreating the three lines that were in the edit, recreating 00:58:23.387 --> 00:58:30.675 - them outside of the edit so that we can request additional appropriations in those lines. Thank you. 00:58:30.675 --> 00:58:37.964 - And I'll hold off. I'll let other people go. We'll come back. I'll go Council Member Decker and then 00:58:37.964 --> 00:58:42.366 - Henry next. I wanted to ask our election supervisor director 00:58:42.562 --> 00:58:48.527 - I get your title wrong every time, but I know who you are and I know you do it well. My question is 00:58:48.527 --> 00:58:54.492 - for you. You've been around the block a couple times. How busy is this one looking on your based on 00:58:54.492 --> 00:59:00.993 - your initial things you monitor? So right now one thing that we're noticing a large increase on is overseas. 00:59:00.993 --> 00:59:06.958 - So our FPCA is we've already sent out over 200 ballots to individuals who are overseas. In total on 00:59:06.958 --> 00:59:12.446 - Saturday we sent out 888 ballots. That is the online and email ballots that were delivered. 00:59:12.546 --> 00:59:18.898 - We're seeing a larger amount of applications come in for the general election than we did at this time 00:59:18.898 --> 00:59:25.127 - period in the 2024 election. We did not send out nearly this many overseas ballots this early on. So 00:59:25.127 --> 00:59:31.726 - right now we're looking at expecting for a high turnout. We are getting a mix of calls of some individuals 00:59:31.726 --> 00:59:38.263 - saying that they're definitely doing early voting and others who are saying they're avoiding early voting 00:59:38.263 --> 00:59:41.470 - and that they want to vote on Election Day instead. 00:59:43.042 --> 00:59:50.551 - Are the parties sending signals that they're going to send you the volunteers you need for Election 00:59:50.551 --> 00:59:58.436 - Day? So far for early voting, we're looking good. Election Day, the seats are still very empty. I always 00:59:58.436 --> 01:00:05.945 - want to ask about that because I've heard that from your predecessors and clerks and deputy clerks, 01:00:05.945 --> 01:00:10.526 - but essentially for our system of a two-party check to work, 01:00:10.882 --> 01:00:17.265 - from the polling place to early voting, what she needs is both parties sending people that will work 01:00:17.265 --> 01:00:23.901 - in that. It doesn't work that way without. They have to make do. And nobody wants to make do even though 01:00:23.901 --> 01:00:30.284 - they make do quite well. So I just wanted to ask that to kind of kick off on the activity. Thank you 01:00:30.284 --> 01:00:36.667 - very much. Council Member Henry. Thank you, Madam President. And thank you for coming in. I did have 01:00:36.667 --> 01:00:38.942 - a chance to review this budget with 01:00:39.202 --> 01:00:45.821 - in my liaison role with Kylie and Tanner. So I'm glad we're presenting. I will say there's probably 01:00:45.821 --> 01:00:52.638 - a cautionary tale for later when we talk about the edit to make sure that if we are agreeing to a plan 01:00:52.638 --> 01:00:59.455 - to use the fund for things like elections, that maybe if it gets this granular that we have the detail 01:00:59.455 --> 01:01:06.073 - here. Because this, I think in some ways got caught up in the difference of using these proceeds in 01:01:06.073 --> 01:01:09.118 - the edit for the election versus where we are 01:01:09.218 --> 01:01:16.618 - with asking for this correction. So I appreciate that with you bringing it in. Tanner or Kylie, do you 01:01:16.618 --> 01:01:23.802 - have a sense of, like with our approach of trying to manage the fund a little better to save up for 01:01:23.802 --> 01:01:31.129 - the presidential year, how close we are to, I guess your overall estimate for the year, if we did not 01:01:31.129 --> 01:01:36.158 - go down the path of breaking this in half, do you know, like, are we, 01:01:36.322 --> 01:01:42.737 - pretty much on target with what you had asked for initially before we broke this in half. Do you know 01:01:42.737 --> 01:01:47.454 - that? Yes, so right now we are looking on target as to what was originally 01:01:47.586 --> 01:01:54.578 - requested for the budget for 2026. One thing that we are seeing a difference in is going to be the ballots 01:01:54.578 --> 01:02:01.113 - because for the general election, we had to move to a custom size ballot due to the amount of races 01:02:01.113 --> 01:02:07.779 - on the ballot and public questions. So there will be a completely new ballot size that has never been 01:02:07.779 --> 01:02:14.706 - seen before. Ballots costed more than what we were expecting. So they went from the legal size to another 01:02:14.706 --> 01:02:16.862 - eight and a half by 17, which is 01:02:17.346 --> 01:02:24.527 - It's a learning curve for all of us right now. Yeah, I heard something about that too, about the public 01:02:24.527 --> 01:02:31.155 - question being awfully long. It's going to give the appearance of some white space on page two, 01:02:31.155 --> 01:02:38.750 - is that right? Yeah, so on the front page there did have to be some open spaces due to regulations on how the 01:02:39.010 --> 01:02:45.370 - each race shows up on the ballot so all of the instructions for straight party has to be with the straight 01:02:45.370 --> 01:02:51.314 - party choices so that created a very large gap on the front side left side column but then the back 01:02:51.314 --> 01:02:57.317 - most of your ballots are completely full front top to bottom yeah i know you i know you treated this 01:02:57.317 --> 01:03:03.321 - like uh puzzle pieces or you know yeah this this was worked so hard so i hope the public understands 01:03:03.321 --> 01:03:07.838 - that what may look like you know why is this you know so empty it's because 01:03:08.258 --> 01:03:14.588 - frankly, there's no other way to get it on there. I know you spent a lot of time with it. So I thank 01:03:14.588 --> 01:03:21.169 - you for your effort. That's it, Madam President. We ended up with a total of 109 different ballot styles 01:03:21.169 --> 01:03:27.749 - just for reference as well. Yeah. Yeah. Good work. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else have any questions 01:03:27.749 --> 01:03:34.142 - or comments? I'm going to circle back to Councilor Wilts. I know you said you have more. I don't want 01:03:34.142 --> 01:03:37.150 - to put you on the spot. Kind of following along 01:03:38.210 --> 01:03:47.309 - I have to admit I was distracted, so you might have covered this. And I apologize if you already did. 01:03:47.309 --> 01:03:56.408 - I know he asked about how this was comparing with the total. And I heard you talk about the out size. 01:03:56.408 --> 01:04:00.958 - Is this exactly the amount that you had carved out 01:04:01.282 --> 01:04:07.128 - in the spring? It's not exactly so there are a couple of spots that did increase but due to us not spending 01:04:07.128 --> 01:04:12.704 - as much in other lines it is evening evening out overall. Okay yeah I will just to clarify we did like 01:04:12.704 --> 01:04:18.442 - have like some getting closer as we approached the general we were able to kind of target specific things 01:04:18.442 --> 01:04:23.963 - that we identified that we needed so that's why it kind of fluctuated a little bit right because when 01:04:23.963 --> 01:04:29.918 - we're requesting back in February we didn't know exactly what we might end up needing come here in September. 01:04:30.530 --> 01:04:35.994 - one thing that I will say and why supply lines we are asking for as much as what we are our boxes for 01:04:35.994 --> 01:04:41.673 - our Franklin boots have been the same boxes since we bought the Franklin boots and they are deteriorating 01:04:41.673 --> 01:04:47.191 - we did just find out that we can buy covers for the Franklin boots that have just now been created and 01:04:47.191 --> 01:04:52.548 - that's something that we want to look at doing that's why we're requesting the money for it because 01:04:52.548 --> 01:04:58.494 - instead of spending approximately a hundred thousand per Franklin booth we're spending sixty dollars per cover 01:05:02.786 --> 01:05:09.325 - Thank you. Yeah. Councilmember Decker. This may be something that's a dumb question so feel free to 01:05:09.325 --> 01:05:16.060 - slap me if it is but does the Secretary of State have any HAVA dollars or those gone? We received HAVA 01:05:16.060 --> 01:05:22.795 - dollars I want to say 2024 and that's what we used for the print devices that we purchased to increase 01:05:22.795 --> 01:05:29.726 - the number of those but we have not had any opportunities of requesting any or applying for any of those. 01:05:30.242 --> 01:05:39.795 - But cycle to cycle, it's still a thing that's not run out. OK. And seeing no other further questions 01:05:39.795 --> 01:05:49.254 - or comments, I will take the point of privilege and say congratulations to Kylie on her 40 under 40 01:05:49.254 --> 01:05:56.254 - award. So you're very welcome. Congratulations. Well deserved. All right. 01:05:56.450 --> 01:06:06.126 - So seeing none, I will move to public comment. If there's public comment, you can raise your hand via 01:06:06.126 --> 01:06:15.898 - Teams or you can come forward to the lectern here in the room. And for the record, I want to note that 01:06:15.898 --> 01:06:26.238 - Council Member Hawke has left. So maybe please have a roll call vote. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Henry? 01:06:28.738 --> 01:06:55.966 - Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 01:06:56.226 --> 01:07:05.125 - which is Monday, and then October 6th is early voting. Got it. All right. Thank you very much for that. 01:07:05.125 --> 01:07:13.340 - Bye. All right. And as requested, we are moving past item B originally because that got tabled. 01:07:13.340 --> 01:07:22.067 - If I may, before we move past this item, I do think with the addition of that overtime line, we might 01:07:22.067 --> 01:07:25.918 - have to amend our overtime resolution. Okay. 01:07:26.178 --> 01:07:33.375 - So I mean, I can bring it back for amendment later, but the resolution which Michelle is pulling up 01:07:33.375 --> 01:07:40.932 - provides for $5,000. But I do believe in the spring there was an additional appropriation. So this would 01:07:40.932 --> 01:07:48.129 - be in addition to that. So I would just like to clarify in the overtime resolution those additional 01:07:48.129 --> 01:07:55.326 - appropriations, which we can do at the next meeting. I just wanted to make sure you're aware of it. 01:07:56.354 --> 01:08:03.604 - Okay. Will they need to come back? Are they needing to be here now or would they have to come back? 01:08:03.604 --> 01:08:11.072 - No. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it looks like you all can exit the historic NatU Hill Room. All right. If you 01:08:11.072 --> 01:08:18.467 - want to stick around, great. If not, go home. All right. Thank you. Okay. Thank you for bringing that 01:08:18.467 --> 01:08:25.790 - to our attention, Ms. Turner-King. All right. Next up, we have items from the Youth Services Bureau. 01:08:28.002 --> 01:08:35.691 - Council I move to open for discussion and possible approval the Youth Services Bureau's request in fund 01:08:35.691 --> 01:08:43.381 - four one one one dash zero zero zero zero donation hyphen BTCC for an additional appropriation of three 01:08:43.381 --> 01:08:50.922 - thousand three hundred dollars in the services category second all right we got a motion and a second 01:08:50.922 --> 01:08:53.214 - and it looks like we have miss 01:08:53.506 --> 01:09:00.339 - Vanessa Schmidt that is joining us. And then also for the record, we have Council Member Iverson joining 01:09:00.339 --> 01:09:06.977 - us virtually as well. So Ms. Schmidt, you should be able to take it away. Thank you. Can you hear me, 01:09:06.977 --> 01:09:13.484 - Council? Yes, we can hear you. Okay, perfect. So yes, thank you. Like I mentioned, we are here just 01:09:13.484 --> 01:09:18.430 - to request approval of additional appropriations of donations made to BTCC. 01:09:18.530 --> 01:09:25.905 - that will help to support our 2026 MC3 event that we're trying to pull together through a variety of 01:09:25.905 --> 01:09:33.206 - resources. And I do just wanna acknowledge we received a total of $3,800 in sponsorships so far for 01:09:33.206 --> 01:09:39.997 - just this appropriation. And we are scheduled for the MC3 event to be held on November 16th. 01:09:39.997 --> 01:09:47.006 - These contributions include $800 from the IU School of Public Health, 1,000 from United Health, 01:09:47.138 --> 01:09:57.213 - 500 from CareSource, 500 from the Southern Indiana Exchange Club, $250 from Ivy Tech, $250 from Farrington 01:09:57.213 --> 01:10:06.629 - Specialty Center, and $500 from the City of Wilmington. Thank you very much for that. I'm just glad 01:10:06.629 --> 01:10:16.798 - to see that this is continuing. Any other questions or comments from or anything from council on this item? 01:10:20.706 --> 01:10:30.576 - I was gonna say Council can do another plug as she passed out flyers for us. I happened to be in a meeting 01:10:30.576 --> 01:10:39.986 - with Melanie Veselich this afternoon. So she gave me the little papers to distribute. So just for the 01:10:39.986 --> 01:10:47.550 - public, the 2026 Monroe County Childhood Conditions Summit will be November 16th. 01:10:48.354 --> 01:10:57.532 - at the Bloomington Convention Center, 8 AM to 4.30 PM. It's a really amazing time. It's a good event. 01:10:57.532 --> 01:11:06.529 - Check it out. Thank you. I would definitely want to acknowledge Melanie's hard work in pulling this 01:11:06.529 --> 01:11:15.617 - together with limited funding this year. She has been able to make magic happen. We're very excited. 01:11:15.617 --> 01:11:18.046 - That's awesome. Thank you. 01:11:18.274 --> 01:11:26.970 - PSD, can you please promote Peter Iverson? Thank you. All right, so seeing no other further questions 01:11:26.970 --> 01:11:35.580 - or comments on this item, we will move to public comment. If there's public comment, raise your hand 01:11:35.580 --> 01:11:44.276 - via Teams or come forward to the lectern here in the room. And seeing none, may we please have a roll 01:11:44.276 --> 01:11:45.214 - call vote? 01:11:54.498 --> 01:12:09.666 - Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 01:12:09.666 --> 01:12:22.558 - Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 01:12:23.554 --> 01:12:31.807 - Council I move to open for discussion and possible approval the Youth Services Bureau's request in Fund 01:12:31.807 --> 01:12:39.822 - 9103-9628 Project Safe Place for deappropriation of $950 in the services category. Second. All right 01:12:39.822 --> 01:12:45.694 - we got a motion and a second and what would you like to add to this item? 01:12:46.690 --> 01:12:54.052 - Thank you, Council. So this is a grant, a state grant provided to us by Indiana Youth Services Association. 01:12:54.052 --> 01:13:01.005 - It's a routine grant that we have received for decades. However, they had some funding cut after they 01:13:01.005 --> 01:13:07.890 - awarded these grants, and so they had to reach out, do an amendment. That was previously approved by 01:13:07.890 --> 01:13:14.366 - commissioners on August 20th of 2026, and so we are just requesting the appropriation of $950. 01:13:16.002 --> 01:13:24.282 - Thank you very much. Council, do you have any questions or comments on this item? All right. Thank you 01:13:24.282 --> 01:13:32.402 - very much. We will move on to public comment. If there's public comment, you can raise your hand via 01:13:32.402 --> 01:13:40.682 - Teams or come forward to the lectern here in the room. And seeing none, may we please have a roll call 01:13:40.682 --> 01:13:44.862 - vote? Councilor Iverson? Yes. Councilor Feidl? Yes. 01:13:45.634 --> 01:13:57.143 - Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor Decker? Yes. Councilor Crossley? Yes. Motion passes 01:13:57.143 --> 01:14:08.217 - unanimous six zero. All right, thank you. Item F. Council, I move to open for discussion and possible 01:14:08.217 --> 01:14:15.166 - approval the Youth Services Bureau's request and fund 8120-9628 01:14:15.778 --> 01:14:25.112 - runaway and homeless to add new account lines as outlined on the agenda and simultaneously approve additional 01:14:25.112 --> 01:14:29.694 - appropriations of $164,018 in the personnel category. 01:14:29.794 --> 01:14:39.253 - $5,379 in the supplies category and $12,695 in the services category for a total appropriation of $182,092. 01:14:39.253 --> 01:14:47.486 - Second. All right, we got a motion and a second. And what would you like to add to this item? 01:14:48.354 --> 01:14:54.897 - Thank you. This one, we're excited about this. So this is a three-year federal grant that we received 01:14:54.897 --> 01:15:01.311 - from the Administration for Children and Families. It supports two positions at YSB, 80% of one and 01:15:01.311 --> 01:15:08.174 - 100% of the other, along with our Youth Advisory Board, Safe Place Outreach, Crisis Intervention Services. 01:15:08.174 --> 01:15:15.294 - And we are awarded a three-year period. However, we have to reapply every year to receive that funding. And so 01:15:15.394 --> 01:15:23.048 - This was our continuation application that has been approved. We have been approved for the third year 01:15:23.048 --> 01:15:30.924 - of funding for a total of $182,092. Congratulations. That's awesome. Thank you. Any questions or comments 01:15:30.924 --> 01:15:38.429 - on this item from council? Seeing none, we'll move to public comment. If there's public comment, you 01:15:38.429 --> 01:15:44.894 - can raise your hand via Teams or you can come forward to the lectern here in the room. 01:15:48.226 --> 01:16:00.575 - and seeing none, maybe please have a roll call vote. Councilor Feidl? Yes. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor 01:16:00.575 --> 01:16:13.039 - Henry? Yes. Councilor Decker? Yes. Councilor Crossley? Yes. Councilor Iverson? Yes. Motion passes unanimous 01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:17.886 - six zero. All right, thank you very much. 01:16:18.146 --> 01:16:26.151 - Thank you, Council. Have a great night. You too. All right. Next up are items that Ms. Turner-King will 01:16:26.151 --> 01:16:33.848 - be taking care of for us. Oh, we'll be presenting to us, I should say. But we'll start off with the 01:16:33.848 --> 01:16:42.238 - council office, item G. Council, I move to approve ordinance 2026-28, approving the recorder sworn affidavit 01:16:42.238 --> 01:16:47.934 - regarding use of the Recorder Perpetuation Fund for 2027 office expenses. 01:16:48.066 --> 01:16:55.959 - second. All right we got a motion and a second. So during the recorder's budget she mentioned that she 01:16:55.959 --> 01:17:03.851 - filed her annual statement that states that the recorder may pay office expenses out of the recorder's 01:17:03.851 --> 01:17:11.667 - perpetuation fund if there was enough funding in that fund. The statute requires the recorder to file 01:17:11.667 --> 01:17:15.422 - a sworn statement and it requires the council to 01:17:15.522 --> 01:17:23.829 - And so that's what this ordinance is. We do it annually. And so it's pretty much similar to the one 01:17:23.829 --> 01:17:32.301 - we did last year. Thank you very much. Any questions or comments from council on this item? It's what 01:17:32.301 --> 01:17:40.608 - we do. All right. Self-explanatory. All right. Well, seeing none, I've had a lot of questions about 01:17:40.608 --> 01:17:41.854 - the ordinance. 01:17:41.954 --> 01:17:50.126 - There is just so happens to be a comment from public on this item. You can raise your hand via Teams 01:17:50.126 --> 01:17:58.299 - or you can come forward to the lectern here in the room. And seeing none, I'm trying to stall. I can 01:17:58.299 --> 01:18:06.633 - do the roll call. I know she's about to walk in. Maybe please have a roll call. So this is a roll call 01:18:06.633 --> 01:18:11.326 - to approve ordinance 26-2028 or dash 28. Councilor Feidl? 01:18:11.906 --> 01:18:21.046 - Yes. Counselor Wilts. Yes. Counselor Decker. Sorry. Counselor Decker. Yes. Counselor Crossley. Yes. 01:18:21.046 --> 01:18:30.369 - Counselor Henry. Yes. Counselor Iverson. Yes. Motion passes 6-0. Great. Thank you very much. Next up, 01:18:30.369 --> 01:18:39.966 - item H. Council, I move to open for discussion Financial Solutions Group FSG contract amendment. Second. 01:18:40.866 --> 01:18:49.716 - All right, we got a motion in a second, Ms. Turner-King. So at a previous council meeting, there was 01:18:49.716 --> 01:18:58.653 - a discussion on using FSG for must and whether that required the execution of a new contract or if we 01:18:58.653 --> 01:19:07.854 - could just do an amendment to our current contract. I spoke to Mr. Garitas and he was amenable to either 01:19:07.854 --> 01:19:09.694 - way. So I prepared a 01:19:10.146 --> 01:19:21.202 - contract amendment, which I can share my screen. So this contract amendment does a couple different 01:19:21.202 --> 01:19:32.369 - things. The first thing it does, so it acknowledges that we signed an agreement in February of 2025. 01:19:32.369 --> 01:19:38.782 - Sorry, I'm trying to make it bigger while talking that we 01:19:38.946 --> 01:19:46.216 - the agreement outlined to the services and that the previously established not exceed amount was $28,000. 01:19:46.216 --> 01:19:53.074 - So the addendum adds additional services related to must, which include facilitating and moderating 01:19:53.074 --> 01:20:00.070 - must meetings, providing guidance and analysts on local income tax distribution strategies, reviewing 01:20:00.070 --> 01:20:06.654 - local income tax distribution agreements, supporting if needed document submission to the DLGF, 01:20:06.786 --> 01:20:15.204 - services and assisting with the development of the report for submission to the state legislation. The 01:20:15.204 --> 01:20:22.805 - amendment adds those additional duties. It increases the shall not exceed amount to $34,000. 01:20:22.805 --> 01:20:31.224 - So it's a $6,000 extra expense. In talking to Mr. Garitas, he did not anticipate that we used the full 01:20:31.224 --> 01:20:33.022 - $6,000, but we could. 01:20:33.154 --> 01:20:40.750 - However, I will also add that I do believe Michelle is going to end up asking possibly for an additional 01:20:40.750 --> 01:20:48.057 - appropriation in our FSG line for services that they're rendering under our current contract without 01:20:48.057 --> 01:20:55.364 - the additional services. So increasing the shall not exceed amount to 34,000 potentially covers both 01:20:55.364 --> 01:21:02.526 - the must services and the services that Michelle is going to ask for. And then the last thing that 01:21:02.626 --> 01:21:10.311 - the amendment does is it extends the termination date from December 31st of 2026 to December 31st of 01:21:10.311 --> 01:21:18.148 - 2027. I have not shared this with Mr. Garitas yet. I wanted to see what council's thoughts were on the 01:21:18.148 --> 01:21:22.942 - amendment before I sent it to him. One thing that this does is 01:21:23.266 --> 01:21:31.209 - In the must proposal that we received for SSG, the consulting rate was slightly higher than our current 01:21:31.209 --> 01:21:38.922 - contract. So this locks it in at the lower rate. And although I did not point that exact fact out to 01:21:38.922 --> 01:21:46.635 - Mr. Garitas, he did. He seemed OK with amending our current contract. OK, well, thank you. I already 01:21:46.635 --> 01:21:51.294 - saw Councilmember Iverson's hand up, so I'll go to him next. 01:21:52.898 --> 01:22:00.552 - Thank you, Madam President. I just wanted to make two very quick points here. Number one is that I am 01:22:00.552 --> 01:22:08.506 - in favor of this because if you've read the article on the B Square Beacon covering Friday's must meeting 01:22:08.506 --> 01:22:16.160 - and you go down into the comments, you can see just how confusing Senate Bill 1 is and the whole must 01:22:16.160 --> 01:22:20.062 - process is. Having FSG there to walk people through 01:22:20.322 --> 01:22:27.625 - and provide their material was I think a great benefit and something that we certainly rely on and I 01:22:27.625 --> 01:22:35.218 - think is important to have. The second point that I'll make is after Friday's must meeting, it is fairly 01:22:35.218 --> 01:22:42.593 - certain that the October meeting, the next meeting will be the final meeting. So we should be able to 01:22:42.593 --> 01:22:49.246 - get through this must process with only two meetings. Thank you and thanks again for taking 01:22:49.602 --> 01:22:59.072 - over or doing a good job with facilitating that with Mr. Garitas. That was a good meeting and you kept 01:22:59.072 --> 01:23:08.449 - it under an hour and a half. So there you go. All right. That's right. All right. Any other questions 01:23:08.449 --> 01:23:13.598 - or comments on this item from council? OK, seeing none. 01:23:14.242 --> 01:23:21.986 - I will move to public comment. If there's public comment on this item, raise your hand via Teams, or 01:23:21.986 --> 01:23:29.730 - you can come forward to the lectern here in the room. All right. And first up, we have somebody hand 01:23:29.730 --> 01:23:37.628 - raise via Teams. You'll state your name for the record, and you'll have up to three minutes. So screen 01:23:37.628 --> 01:23:44.222 - name Lee, if you can unmute, and you would be able to proceed. Hello. My name is Lee. 01:23:44.354 --> 01:23:57.868 - I'm a resident of Monroe County. I just wanted to comment about the special lit tax, which is not represented 01:23:57.868 --> 01:24:10.522 - in this must procedure and talk about taxes in general, because one of the things that I found lacking 01:24:10.522 --> 01:24:13.470 - is how the reduction in 01:24:13.762 --> 01:24:21.948 - property taxes is, you know, in comparison. So a bigger picture of the reduction that you're seeing 01:24:21.948 --> 01:24:30.053 - in property taxes with this increase or change in the way the local income tax is done. Thank you. 01:24:30.053 --> 01:24:37.502 - Thank you. Is there anybody else via Teams that would like to make a comment on this item? 01:24:43.714 --> 01:24:55.906 - May we please have a roll call vote. Councillor Wilkes. Yes. Councillor Henry. Yes. Councillor Deckard. 01:24:55.906 --> 01:25:07.981 - Yes. Councillor Crossley. Yes. Councillor Iverson. Yes. Councillor Feidl. Yes. Motion passes unanimous 01:25:07.981 --> 01:25:13.374 - six zero. And procedurally I will now propose 01:25:13.762 --> 01:25:20.909 - these changes to Mr. Garitas and FSG. If they're amendable to such, then I will add the amendment to 01:25:20.909 --> 01:25:27.772 - the contract to a commissioner's agenda for approval. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Yes, 01:25:27.772 --> 01:25:34.848 - go ahead. You want to do anything else? Okay, so I'm going to based on our little mini conversation 01:25:34.848 --> 01:25:42.278 - here, I'm going to bring up the issue of Councilor Wilts was bringing up what we actually voted on here, 01:25:42.278 --> 01:25:43.198 - which in the 01:25:43.362 --> 01:25:50.882 - what I read to open for discussion. It didn't say anything about what we really talked about, right? 01:25:50.882 --> 01:25:58.475 - So it just said open for discussions, but we read, we listened to Molly present many things about the 01:25:58.475 --> 01:26:06.218 - amendments. And so maybe we do need to have a motion in a second to accept those amendments. Would that 01:26:06.218 --> 01:26:10.462 - be appropriate? What were we doing? I think for clarity, 01:26:11.234 --> 01:26:18.640 - we do the roll call, and it would be a motion to propose the changes to FSG. Somebody needs to make 01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:26.195 - a motion. Council Member Decker. Council, I move that we clarify our previous action by a resolution, 01:26:26.195 --> 01:26:33.749 - a motion with my motion that says we are adopting this amended contract proposal for FSG. And I amend 01:26:33.749 --> 01:26:39.230 - as outlined by Ms. Molly Turner King. I consent to the amendment. Second. 01:26:39.522 --> 01:26:49.685 - Okay, we got a motion in a second. Any other further questions or clarifications on this item? All right. 01:26:49.685 --> 01:26:59.560 - Seeing none, maybe please have a roll call vote. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor 01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:07.518 - Decker? Yes. Councilor Crosley? Yes. Councilor Iverson? Yes. Councilor Feidl? Yes. 01:27:07.810 --> 01:27:18.007 - Motion passes unanimous 6-0. All right. Tom is now 6-3. Do you know where your kids are? OK. Next up 01:27:18.007 --> 01:27:28.305 - is item I. And I actually, this is my fault. I forgot to motion or make a comment at the beginning of 01:27:28.305 --> 01:27:37.694 - the agenda approval to table this item. We're not ready for prom time just yet on this item. 01:27:38.050 --> 01:27:46.866 - And so I'm going to say our next regularly scheduled meeting is October 13th, correct? Okay, because 01:27:46.866 --> 01:27:55.769 - I know the six is the public hearing. So I counsel without any objections, I would like to table item 01:27:55.769 --> 01:28:05.022 - I, which is to approve the resolution 2629 to target fund balance resolution to our October 13th meeting. 01:28:05.022 --> 01:28:05.982 - All right. 01:28:06.306 --> 01:28:14.774 - We got a motion and a second. Is there any questions or comments from this item? I think by then we 01:28:14.774 --> 01:28:23.751 - should be ready for prom time for this one. All right. And seeing no other further questions or comments, 01:28:23.751 --> 01:28:32.812 - I apologize for the oversight on that. Maybe please have a roll call vote. Councilor Henry? Yes. Councilor 01:28:32.812 --> 01:28:36.030 - Decker? Yes. Councilor Crossley? Yes. 01:28:36.450 --> 01:28:46.515 - Councilor Iverson? Yes. Councilor Feidl? Yes. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Motion passes unanimous. Thank you 01:28:46.515 --> 01:28:56.385 - very, very much. And next up is the discussion of GO bonds with our Board of Commissioners. Council, 01:28:56.385 --> 01:29:03.518 - I move to open a discussion of the 2027 general obligation bond. Second. 01:29:04.002 --> 01:29:20.836 - all right we got a motion and a second and we will have the county version of the 18 come on up and 01:29:20.836 --> 01:29:33.630 - present to us tell me what you want first the present the yeah okay yeah so 01:29:33.730 --> 01:29:41.147 - We'll start off with the 2026 and good evening, sorry. Good evening. It's all good. You're all good. 01:29:41.147 --> 01:29:49.079 - And we're joined by Commissioners Madeira and Commissioner Thomas, and of course, Ms. Angie Berge. Welcome. 01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:56.643 - Thank you. And Michelle is going to help me with the presentation to display on the screen. And it was 01:29:56.643 --> 01:29:58.846 - emailed to you earlier today. 01:30:07.874 --> 01:30:15.646 - the presentation of the 2026 general obligation bonds. And you go to the next one. And the commissioners 01:30:15.646 --> 01:30:23.343 - just want to continue the necessary capital improvements, repairs, replacement, and purchases that keep 01:30:23.343 --> 01:30:30.819 - Monroe County government functioning efficiently and effectively to the best of its capability. Just 01:30:30.819 --> 01:30:36.222 - some background information during the past 10 years, we have secured 12 01:30:36.322 --> 01:30:46.743 - Um, G O bonds totaling up 34 million, 567,000 to $525 and 50 cents. And at this point we have 3 million, 01:30:46.743 --> 01:30:56.767 - 328,000, $152 and 60 cents that are remaining in projects that are, that are outstanding. And we can 01:30:56.767 --> 01:31:02.622 - talk about the older projects after this, if you like. Um, 01:31:03.458 --> 01:31:10.254 - The money that's remaining just kind of to give you a background is associated with projects that have 01:31:10.254 --> 01:31:17.049 - been delayed due to supply chain issues and utility issues, product build time complications, highway, 01:31:17.049 --> 01:31:23.845 - it turns out all of their things when they're built takes a considerably long length of time. And then 01:31:23.845 --> 01:31:30.509 - we have funds that have been appropriated for our IT needs and those are for ongoing and as problems 01:31:30.509 --> 01:31:32.158 - arise that we're able to 01:31:33.122 --> 01:31:43.475 - respond to those. So the next slide is just kind of showing you some pictures of some of the projects 01:31:43.475 --> 01:31:53.626 - that are planned for this particular bond. As you can see in the upper quadrant of the slide, those 01:31:53.626 --> 01:32:02.558 - are the what would be proposed as the new shower and flooring belts for our inmates and 01:32:02.850 --> 01:32:10.728 - This is a priority item. It was one, I think, that was not necessarily considered a priority when the 01:32:10.728 --> 01:32:18.606 - two groups looked at the projects. However, there's a water issue, a water penetration issue with our 01:32:18.606 --> 01:32:25.712 - current showers, which, as you all know, water and in buildings and in hot weather is never 01:32:25.712 --> 01:32:31.582 - a good combination. And then the other one is some examples of the highway. 01:32:31.746 --> 01:32:37.631 - items that they had requested. So Minero County government as a whole, with you guys assisting 01:32:37.631 --> 01:32:43.950 - the commissioners, are able to provide an improved security and building environment, but you're also 01:32:43.950 --> 01:32:49.587 - providing for our law enforcement and our community while taking care of our roadways, our 01:32:49.587 --> 01:32:55.844 - park accessibility, and our community in general through improved travel and leisure activities. And 01:32:55.844 --> 01:33:00.862 - in addition to the emergency notification system, so that's kind of a rundown of 01:33:01.090 --> 01:33:10.294 - most of the items that you're going to be looking at today. Next slide. So this next slide reflects 01:33:10.294 --> 01:33:19.590 - the projects as you saw on your initial presentation when we came a couple of months ago, I think it 01:33:19.590 --> 01:33:28.793 - was. And so this is primarily that presentation minus projects that were dropped off that were of a 01:33:28.793 --> 01:33:30.174 - lower category 01:33:30.306 --> 01:33:38.564 - lower classification between the two bodies as far as priority is concerned. And it does include three 01:33:38.564 --> 01:33:47.303 - additional projects that you were not aware of at that time. One of those is portal radios for the sheriff's 01:33:47.303 --> 01:33:55.481 - office, elevator repairs. There had been an elevator on the prior list, but we found that we could do 01:33:55.481 --> 01:33:57.726 - some repairs to the current 01:33:58.082 --> 01:34:05.452 - Elevator that is of a lesser value And hopefully keep it going And then the last one is highway I had 01:34:05.452 --> 01:34:12.750 - somehow left them off the prior Presentation and they want to do the pavement preservation They have 01:34:12.750 --> 01:34:20.121 - one five single axle salt spreaders That was the little one and then three of the tandem X three axle 01:34:20.121 --> 01:34:26.046 - salt spreader boxes So but this is not your final bond numbers. So the next slide 01:34:28.866 --> 01:34:35.619 - I also want to just kind of give you a highlight of those items that were removed from the 01:34:35.619 --> 01:34:43.410 - initial presentation so you know what we did take off. And one of those items is the jail plumbing parts 01:34:43.410 --> 01:34:50.904 - and fixtures. That was a high priority item, but we're able to do that out of the cumulative capital 01:34:50.904 --> 01:34:55.134 - development fund. And we also have the ability to reduce 01:34:55.266 --> 01:35:04.644 - some of the requests in this bond due to savings associated with prior year bonds. Emergency management 01:35:04.644 --> 01:35:13.841 - has a total of $39,349,346.22 that we're going to be able to apply to the cost of their siren project 01:35:13.841 --> 01:35:22.046 - for the 2026 bond. And the sheriff also has a total of 128,000 remaining in rugged laptops 01:35:22.146 --> 01:35:30.736 - and a body scanner in the 2025 general obligation bond that we can then move into the taser and body 01:35:30.736 --> 01:35:39.411 - cam and in-car camera line, which is also part of that 2025 general obligation bond. And as a result, 01:35:39.411 --> 01:35:48.766 - reduce that $440,000 that was requested for the 2026 GEO bond because it's a five-year payout on these items. 01:35:49.442 --> 01:35:56.360 - So we're able to reduce that amount because we have some of that additional money. Next slide. This 01:35:56.360 --> 01:36:03.692 - slide shows you the costs. So for emergency management, the siren replacement with the necessary electric 01:36:03.692 --> 01:36:10.610 - components was originally $345,100, but we can take off the 39,000 that we have in the other bonds. 01:36:10.610 --> 01:36:17.182 - And that brings that amount down to 305,000. The same thing with the sheriff when we moved the 01:36:18.050 --> 01:36:28.034 - the additional funds up into the same line, the taser body cam line that goes from $440,000 to $312,000. 01:36:28.034 --> 01:36:37.923 - So our next slide is just kind of highlighting some of the items that are proposed as part of this bond 01:36:37.923 --> 01:36:45.054 - park at park or county park access is a large component for parks. We have 01:36:46.114 --> 01:36:54.034 - We call non-law enforcement officer vehicles. Those are for community corrections and those are electric 01:36:54.034 --> 01:37:01.728 - vehicles. We also have a van that's proposed for Youth Services Bureau that's also electric. And then 01:37:01.728 --> 01:37:09.573 - the court has dome and dome is leaking. This is another water issue that is never a good thing. So that 01:37:09.573 --> 01:37:13.118 - became a priority. So we'll go on to the next. 01:37:13.954 --> 01:37:22.323 - This slide actually is reflecting the projects as presented and as finalized that we're presenting to 01:37:22.323 --> 01:37:30.937 - you. And it's also showing the reduced amount for the siren replacement project and also for the ongoing 01:37:30.937 --> 01:37:39.552 - Taser body cam in-car camera expenses. So this bond list, and if you want, I can go through all of them. 01:37:39.552 --> 01:37:43.326 - I'll highlight the names of what we're doing. 01:37:43.458 --> 01:37:52.455 - So siren replacement, car's form blacktop, the non-law enforcement vehicles, taser body cam, and in-car 01:37:52.455 --> 01:38:01.105 - cameras, portable radios, showers, cameras for the jail, prosecutor renovation, that's still in the 01:38:01.105 --> 01:38:10.015 - group, shelter nine parking, and splash pad parking, and fields nine through 12 dog parking, and those 01:38:10.015 --> 01:38:11.486 - all include ADA. 01:38:16.386 --> 01:38:29.184 - availability. Court has domed drones and cameras, elevator repairs, and the pavement preservation assault 01:38:29.184 --> 01:38:41.620 - boxes for highway. So the bond comes to, as proposed, a total of $3,894,853.78. And that's it for 2026 01:38:41.620 --> 01:38:44.638 - general obligation bond. 01:38:47.330 --> 01:38:55.602 - Thank you very much. I will look to council to see if anybody has any questions on this item as presented. 01:38:55.602 --> 01:39:03.487 - Yes. Council member Decker. Thanks for noting the addition on highway. I kind of wondered about that, 01:39:03.487 --> 01:39:11.373 - but my question was, and I didn't hear, but then again, I may have missed it on the airport snowplow. 01:39:11.373 --> 01:39:15.006 - Did that make any cut or it was removed? Okay. 01:39:19.650 --> 01:39:29.397 - $70,000. Yeah, it looks like it said 70 on our sheet. Yes, Councilmember Woods. Thanks. The first of 01:39:29.397 --> 01:39:39.047 - all, thanks for the presentation. I'm always, you know, every year I'm like, I need more stuff. And 01:39:39.047 --> 01:39:49.566 - this is good. I love it. Thank you. The the projects that were removed. Are they collectively not happening? 01:39:50.242 --> 01:39:57.362 - at this time, with the exception of the jail plumbing parts and fixtures, the other items at this point 01:39:57.362 --> 01:40:04.482 - are not being provided. Unless there's other departments could find some other money. They need to move 01:40:04.482 --> 01:40:11.602 - to something and a miracle golden purse of money somebody found. Grant money. Yeah, things coming. Some 01:40:11.602 --> 01:40:18.174 - miracle like that. Right. Right. Just wanted to make sure. But the jail plumbing was completed. 01:40:18.530 --> 01:40:31.071 - that project is being completed. Right. Yeah. We purchased those. Okay. Go for it. Keep going. Oh, yeah. 01:40:31.071 --> 01:40:43.852 - No, that's yeah. The jail was we've already started that because that was that became more of a necessary. 01:40:43.852 --> 01:40:48.510 - So in the past we have done three year 01:40:48.642 --> 01:40:56.133 - bonds, right? Oh, in the past, we've done one year bond. They were usually three million, but we did 01:40:56.133 --> 01:41:03.772 - one year. That's what I meant. Those are the. Oh, sorry. One year bond, three million dollars. Got it. 01:41:03.772 --> 01:41:11.412 - But this is a different. This is a six year. Yes. And this occurred as a result of the Senate Bill one 01:41:11.412 --> 01:41:17.790 - in which we have to have the cooling off period. And so this helps. This allows us to 01:41:19.138 --> 01:41:29.310 - avoid that cooling off period. So now your bond is amortized, amortized, amortized. Thank you. Over 01:41:29.310 --> 01:41:39.583 - six years as opposed to one year. And the auditor's office can show you the amortization schedule if 01:41:39.583 --> 01:41:43.550 - you need to see how that's played out. 01:41:43.682 --> 01:41:52.983 - I do know that when we looked into this in 25, when this first came to our attention, I believe it was 01:41:52.983 --> 01:42:02.193 - FSG or may have been bond counsel who came and spoke about this process versus our older process. And 01:42:02.193 --> 01:42:12.126 - it was noted that a lot of counties before Senate and World Act I came into play were using the longer bonds. 01:42:12.546 --> 01:42:21.031 - It was just something that Monroe County had not done previously. Councilmember Decker. I want to follow 01:42:21.031 --> 01:42:29.354 - that up. Since we're in new territory here, I have kind of a, well, I'll start with one question. Does 01:42:29.354 --> 01:42:36.869 - interest rate on the bond go up because it's over six years then? That's going to be on the, 01:42:36.869 --> 01:42:42.526 - depends on the, that's an auditor question because the bonds will be, 01:42:42.754 --> 01:42:49.859 - to be sold, right? So we have, it depends on what the rate is at this point in time, but then that is 01:42:49.859 --> 01:42:57.103 - divided up through six years. I mean, interest rates are high right now compared. So yes, we're getting 01:42:57.103 --> 01:43:04.208 - a higher than we used to. But we do have a good bond rating in the county. That is good. But the fact 01:43:04.208 --> 01:43:10.686 - that it's longer means we're taking longer to pay it back and that is more interest payment. 01:43:11.138 --> 01:43:20.895 - So this is a more expensive way to get money, for sure. But it's less expensive upfront. So it's like 01:43:20.895 --> 01:43:30.653 - buying a car. You can pay for it all at once, right? Or you pay for it over seven years. You're going 01:43:30.653 --> 01:43:39.262 - to pay more in interest overall, but your yearly payments cost to you are less. So it's a 01:43:39.938 --> 01:43:47.657 - It's a six of one, half a dozen of the other. I just started a new one. Okay. We'll go for it Mr. Decker. 01:43:47.657 --> 01:43:55.231 - And because we're in new territory and I'm looking for anyone that can answer this so please don't feel 01:43:55.231 --> 01:44:03.023 - the pressure on this. Does that mean in one year we would be back with a second request for a new six-year 01:44:03.023 --> 01:44:07.902 - bond or is we're just done? No we will probably be coming back and 01:44:08.834 --> 01:44:18.317 - until we can get due until the legislation allows us to do a one-year bond without the cooling off period 01:44:18.317 --> 01:44:27.264 - I would anticipate that we are going to be coming with a six-year bond each year as I indicated the 01:44:27.264 --> 01:44:36.926 - in-car body camera tasers and body cams that's a five-year obligation at $440,000 a year unless we can find 01:44:38.050 --> 01:44:46.435 - something in another bond that meets that criteria to offset the cost. This is just general commentary, 01:44:46.435 --> 01:44:54.577 - but I did not fully understand that in all the changes, and I should have. That's on me. But it just 01:44:54.577 --> 01:45:02.640 - seems like the state changes. This is another dimension that just I don't fully understand how this 01:45:02.640 --> 01:45:06.590 - makes sense other than communities have to bond. 01:45:06.722 --> 01:45:13.029 - to get everything done or my gosh, you'd never get anything done. But it just doesn't seem like this 01:45:13.029 --> 01:45:19.336 - is something that someone knew what they were doing when they did it or they meant for it to be this 01:45:19.336 --> 01:45:25.830 - way. And I would throw that out to counselors that in the shifting sands of the state figuring out what 01:45:25.830 --> 01:45:32.386 - happens here and doesn't happen here. I could see all this being something completely different in three 01:45:32.386 --> 01:45:35.134 - and a half months and two and a half years. 01:45:35.810 --> 01:45:44.721 - I'll stop talking. Yes, Councilor Frido. So I'm, you know, anybody that understands the totality of 01:45:44.721 --> 01:45:53.631 - SEA-1, I think is a miracle worker. So keeping that in mind, I wondered if there was a limit on the 01:45:53.631 --> 01:46:03.166 - bond amount as a result of SEA-1 that we have to stay under. There is a, there is a limit on, it's either, 01:46:03.554 --> 01:46:11.563 - I think $6 million is the maximum amount that per year. I'm sorry? $6 million for six years. Yes. So 01:46:11.563 --> 01:46:19.571 - then when you come back next year, would that amount get added to this amount? Okay, so it's its own 01:46:19.571 --> 01:46:27.818 - new $6 million. Right, right. Thank you. Yeah, and this request is three point. I got it. I just wanted 01:46:27.818 --> 01:46:32.734 - to know what the max was. Yeah, it's six. Thanks. Point five. 01:46:33.666 --> 01:46:41.312 - The, what is the shortest term of the bond that allows us to not have the cooling off period? I think 01:46:41.312 --> 01:46:48.883 - this is it. It's my understanding that that was how it was presented to us in 25, which is why we're 01:46:48.883 --> 01:46:56.454 - using the six year bond. Right, but you don't have to obviously bond for the full six and a half, so 01:46:56.454 --> 01:47:02.526 - we're obviously. Right, right. I thought it was possible. I thought there was a, 01:47:03.202 --> 01:47:12.240 - It was a little bit less. The statute references short-term debt issuances under five years, so this 01:47:12.240 --> 01:47:21.368 - would be the shortest term. If it's under five, then you have the cooling off period. The cooling off 01:47:21.368 --> 01:47:31.390 - period means if you do it that way, you can't do it every year. We would have to wait. My understanding, again, 01:47:32.322 --> 01:47:40.268 - Just my understanding is, so you would get a bond, say, for now in 26, it would be paid off in, 01:47:40.268 --> 01:47:48.711 - let's say, a year, because that's the one I know. So we do it in a year. We can't bond in 27. I think 01:47:48.711 --> 01:47:57.154 - we have to wait until 28 before we can bond again, because you cannot bond. So you have a year to pay 01:47:57.154 --> 01:48:00.382 - off, and then you have to wait a year. 01:48:01.154 --> 01:48:12.155 - So that's why it becomes a problem, because you're looking at basically two years without being able 01:48:12.155 --> 01:48:23.264 - to fund for these projects. And these projects keep us afloat. Oh, yeah. It's just. Sorry, that's the 01:48:23.264 --> 01:48:27.294 - legislature. I mean, I think I think 01:48:27.554 --> 01:48:36.985 - I mean, it doesn't make sense. And there's so much that doesn't. And this is just one segment of what 01:48:36.985 --> 01:48:46.694 - doesn't make sense. But it's that is exactly where I am with this. I mean, I am I am frustrated by rules 01:48:46.694 --> 01:48:56.958 - that are impacting our ability to manage and steward money responsibly because I do feel backed into a corner. 01:48:57.314 --> 01:49:07.643 - We depend on a certain amount of bonding, and I was really proud of the way we've managed that over 01:49:07.643 --> 01:49:18.489 - the years, frankly. We have not increased that amount since I've been on council. It has been very close 01:49:18.489 --> 01:49:27.166 - every year, and that keeps everything needed to sustain it at a flat level as well. 01:49:27.586 --> 01:49:38.138 - granted interest rates do change. But this throws in a whole other level of complication in financing 01:49:38.138 --> 01:49:48.587 - and expense. I mean, let's just call it it's more expensive. And it's a no. Again, I want to go back 01:49:48.587 --> 01:49:55.518 - to that rate is divided by six as opposed to one. And so this is a 01:49:55.714 --> 01:50:04.633 - you guys really should talk to the auditor about how that affects, because I think if we look at some 01:50:04.633 --> 01:50:13.465 - forms that we did, our debt maybe, because the 2025 was a six year bond, instead of having the three 01:50:13.465 --> 01:50:22.734 - million in that box, we only had like 300 and some thousand, because it's over three, over the six years. 01:50:22.734 --> 01:50:25.182 - So your rate is spread out. 01:50:27.618 --> 01:50:37.355 - over that time period. So in actuality, so what happens going back to the older bonds, I think it was 01:50:37.355 --> 01:50:47.092 - in 2016, we got two bonds to $2 million bonds. So that was total of 4 million in 2016. We did that at 01:50:47.092 --> 01:50:56.542 - that time because we had the showers purchase falling off. So there was a tax rate incurred by the 01:50:57.090 --> 01:51:06.408 - community through that but when we added the addition so that fell off and when we added on the additional 01:51:06.408 --> 01:51:15.204 - two million that kept the rate at the same level so actually right now the rate is less because it's 01:51:15.204 --> 01:51:24.262 - spread over six years clear as mud i see and then we'll do it again next year and it'll add those rates 01:51:24.262 --> 01:51:26.526 - will add and i don't know 01:51:27.906 --> 01:51:35.649 - but as they add, they're also falling off. So it's a, again, this is a, please talk to the auditor about 01:51:35.649 --> 01:51:43.318 - this. I understand. And I'm not trying to put you on the spot for stuff that we should probably be more 01:51:43.318 --> 01:51:50.766 - informed about. I think another good way to think about this as well is, you know, this is where Ms. 01:51:50.766 --> 01:51:57.182 - Prudy does such a great job and all our department heads do a great job is things are, 01:51:57.538 --> 01:52:06.021 - are acknowledged in advance that are needed these capital expenses and we do things over time and have 01:52:06.021 --> 01:52:14.339 - a plan just like highway plans which roads are going to get paved year after year and because if you 01:52:14.339 --> 01:52:22.657 - drop if you drop a bond over a year for example and you don't bond at all and then you start bonding 01:52:22.657 --> 01:52:24.222 - again the taxpayer 01:52:24.418 --> 01:52:34.048 - really feels a hit. It's a seesaw that they don't need. Instead, we are consistently addressing the 01:52:34.048 --> 01:52:44.257 - capital needs for the county residents, and I think that's what's made this a better way to move forward. 01:52:44.257 --> 01:52:53.502 - I guess to that point, I have a quick question. Departments come into you all asking questions. 01:52:53.666 --> 01:53:00.023 - I mean, how early like when do they start? Like I'm thinking now. You know this list of things that 01:53:00.023 --> 01:53:06.570 - didn't get on the list for 26. Do you already have people that are lining up for 27 asking? Can we get 01:53:06.570 --> 01:53:12.927 - on that list? Yeah, I am. We talked about projects all the time and we you know the first thing you 01:53:12.927 --> 01:53:19.348 - like. Can we manage this in cumulative capital development fund? Can we manage this a different way? 01:53:19.348 --> 01:53:22.526 - Can can you get a grant? Can this happen? I mean, 01:53:22.626 --> 01:53:30.152 - It's all those questions get asked, and then it's timing, right? It is, and things come up that can't 01:53:30.152 --> 01:53:37.751 - wait. Things come up that can wait. So it is just a constant kind of give and take of trying to figure 01:53:37.751 --> 01:53:44.318 - out how you're going to triage the situation at hand. And email of capital is definitely 01:53:46.146 --> 01:53:53.919 - an important part of our ability to respond to those things that were maybe not caught by a bond. People 01:53:53.919 --> 01:54:01.618 - were not aware of that this was coming up, that kind of situation. And so far, we've been good at being 01:54:01.618 --> 01:54:09.243 - able to balance that. I appreciate that. Thank you. And then things that don't make sense, that sounds 01:54:09.243 --> 01:54:11.390 - like a segment that we could 01:54:11.970 --> 01:54:19.893 - have Kat to help us with, because there's a whole lot that we could probably add to that. And I would 01:54:19.893 --> 01:54:27.971 - recommend talking with Mr. Cockerill. He truly, he really understands this. And I think that that might 01:54:27.971 --> 01:54:35.972 - help significantly. Thank you. Council Member Henry. Thank you, Madam President. And thank you for the 01:54:35.972 --> 01:54:38.302 - comments. You know, I have no 01:54:39.138 --> 01:54:47.125 - I think we've kind of had this conversation before a year ago. Councilor Wilts, you were reminding me 01:54:47.125 --> 01:54:55.034 - of it as we were circling what seems to be the queasiness. And I guess for me, the queasiness is the 01:54:55.034 --> 01:54:59.262 - fact that if you add up year over year, regardless of 01:54:59.746 --> 01:55:07.593 - amortization schedules and interest, we are still asking for more bond money year end over year end 01:55:07.593 --> 01:55:15.519 - from historically. If you have a one-year bond at three million or the six-year at this number times 01:55:15.519 --> 01:55:23.366 - five, it is more bonded money that we're bonding. I think Councilor Hawkins brought that up too. It 01:55:23.366 --> 01:55:28.702 - is a long-term finance question. I guess what I would ask or maybe, 01:55:28.930 --> 01:55:35.471 - this time next year we're not saying the same things again about why is this weird, is that if there 01:55:35.471 --> 01:55:42.270 - are projections for capital projects, which it sounds like there are from departments, we need to factor 01:55:42.270 --> 01:55:48.746 - that into the long-term finance of the county to know when the bigger things are going to break and 01:55:48.746 --> 01:55:55.870 - if it is a 2029 or 2030 outlay based on the work that's being done by department heads with the board to know 01:55:56.450 --> 01:56:02.742 - what years are gonna be harder, right? And you may very well come back and say, look, it's always going 01:56:02.742 --> 01:56:09.095 - to be us asking for this max if we can, because there are that many projects. But we don't see all that. 01:56:09.095 --> 01:56:15.145 - What we get is the annual list. And it sounds like there's a way to project out a few years on what 01:56:15.145 --> 01:56:21.256 - we really think is coming. And that might be interesting to work on over the next year to really get 01:56:21.256 --> 01:56:25.310 - ahead of that. So it's less opaque, I guess, in this conversation. 01:56:25.858 --> 01:56:35.527 - an observation I have from this conversation. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else with any 01:56:35.527 --> 01:56:45.387 - questions or comments? So the next steps from here would be. Yeah, I do think that you guys might want 01:56:45.387 --> 01:56:49.790 - to drag this into the edit conversation also. 01:56:49.922 --> 01:56:58.351 - Um, but the next steps will be that we need to get this when I did not print out, there's a schedule, 01:56:58.351 --> 01:57:06.697 - um, in which it needs to be approved in a public meeting. Um, and then we kind of go from there, but 01:57:06.697 --> 01:57:14.960 - I can get that to you. I'm pretty sure that, um, we have that we've done our resolution, but it was 01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:19.422 - Charlie. Yeah, I think, I think Jeff has to get that. 01:57:20.802 --> 01:57:29.166 - So we'll get that to you for approval. But it's still, again, there's still an open question that we're 01:57:29.166 --> 01:57:37.208 - going to talk about relating to edit geobond and how things are being spent. So we're not done with 01:57:37.208 --> 01:57:45.412 - geobond conversation yet. I can get you the schedule as soon as probably tomorrow. I do think that we 01:57:45.412 --> 01:57:50.398 - have it based upon the commissioners approving last Thursday. 01:57:50.978 --> 01:57:56.915 - Okay, yeah. So the next steps, but there is an item that was. There are some items that the question 01:57:56.915 --> 01:58:02.911 - came up. Does it go to Geobahn? Does it go to edit right now? It's not in the Geobahn, and that's why 01:58:02.911 --> 01:58:09.259 - I don't want to really close the conversation yet. I kind of want to add in if we could be at it situation. 01:58:09.259 --> 01:58:15.254 - Yeah, that is a good question, because I know that I know where you might be going with this, because 01:58:15.254 --> 01:58:19.134 - I watched last week's meeting and there was a conversation about. 01:58:19.458 --> 01:58:27.190 - something that was currently edit that potentially could be over in Geobots. Ms. Turner-Keith, because 01:58:27.190 --> 01:58:34.847 - technically we don't want to close this. I guess we don't want to vote on something like this because 01:58:34.847 --> 01:58:42.503 - we could have something that is, what do we need to? I don't think you're voting on anything. This is 01:58:42.503 --> 01:58:48.734 - just a discussion. So I mean, you could close it and reopen it, depending on edit. 01:58:48.834 --> 01:58:56.378 - or we could just move to edit since it's just a discussion item. Got it. Okay. Because technically they're 01:58:56.378 --> 01:59:03.570 - waiting. What we do in edit also could go back up the chain for us to figure that out. Right. Got it. 01:59:03.570 --> 01:59:11.678 - Right. Got it. Right. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm late. And normally Mr Cockerill will bring an ordinance with, you know, 01:59:12.066 --> 01:59:18.783 - with an appropriation of ordinance and that kind of thing. And it has the project list in it and the 01:59:18.783 --> 01:59:25.566 - total amount of the bond. That's what I remember. OK, sorry. I got a really sharp shooting pain in my 01:59:25.566 --> 01:59:32.217 - ear right now. So OK, so if there I don't see any other further questions or comments on this item, 01:59:32.217 --> 01:59:39.066 - then we will go to the next topic at hand, which is the edit conversation. Council, I move to open the 01:59:39.066 --> 01:59:40.862 - discussion of the 2027 lit 01:59:40.962 --> 01:59:52.351 - economic development budget. Second. All right, we got a motion and a second. Can you show that worksheet 01:59:52.351 --> 02:00:04.169 - on your screen, please? So this was sent to you earlier today as well. So we do have an answer on bituminous, 02:00:04.169 --> 02:00:10.078 - which is that it cannot go in the geo bond. So that is 02:00:10.242 --> 02:00:16.668 - it's under community crossings match slash by two minutes. That is going to have to be at it. OK, so 02:00:16.668 --> 02:00:23.094 - that question has been answered by Bond Council. We didn't have that answer yet when we started this 02:00:23.094 --> 02:00:29.647 - conversation and when we talked about it on Thursday. So at the top of the at the top of the list, the 02:00:29.647 --> 02:00:36.009 - bottom of the list is exactly what we just talked about with the jail bond. So that's the same. And 02:00:36.009 --> 02:00:37.854 - then there's a total column. 02:00:38.306 --> 02:00:46.212 - total for each column for GeoBond and edit at the bottom of those bottom of those columns so we can 02:00:46.212 --> 02:00:54.276 - keep track of what we're putting in what fund. So the things that have been sort of hanging out there 02:00:54.276 --> 02:01:02.577 - as unresolved could go in any column but this is what we recommend is what's on the screen. So technical 02:01:02.577 --> 02:01:06.846 - services department personnel going to county general 02:01:07.490 --> 02:01:17.373 - technical services department self-insurance going to edit the county general self-insurance would go 02:01:17.373 --> 02:01:27.451 - to edit community crossings has to go to edit we now have that answer so with the boxes that are grayed 02:01:27.451 --> 02:01:34.718 - out they're off-limits and then we we also have software of 1.5 million in 02:01:35.170 --> 02:01:42.476 - capital development fund, and that could be moved to edit, but it could also be moved to GeoBond. So 02:01:42.476 --> 02:01:50.216 - that's the one piece that's still out there. I think they moved it to edit. I believe at your last meeting 02:01:50.216 --> 02:01:57.521 - they moved the software to edit. Right, but this is the recommendation that we have. So again, these 02:01:57.521 --> 02:02:03.742 - numbers can be moved, but then you can see at the bottom what the totals are and edit 02:02:03.842 --> 02:02:13.409 - with the way we recommend it, edit is already taking a $9.5 million hit, which is huge. It's less than 02:02:13.409 --> 02:02:23.163 - what is currently budgeted. Right. But we also have in this list something that we haven't really talked 02:02:23.163 --> 02:02:33.566 - about. And I know Councilor Iverson is aware of it, but we have a request from Beacon in order to get their new 02:02:33.858 --> 02:02:41.309 - building up and running and, um, Forest Gilmore is here to talk about that. Um, because I don't think 02:02:41.309 --> 02:02:48.834 - any of that's been introduced to you yet at all. And, um, so whenever you're ready, he can come up and 02:02:48.834 --> 02:02:56.139 - explain that. And for clarification, it cannot go in a bond. We've checked that. Yeah. So it has to 02:02:56.139 --> 02:02:59.646 - be, um, edit or nothing and we hope it's at it. 02:03:00.738 --> 02:03:21.458 - Well, Mr. Gilmore, if you want to go ahead and come up and make a quick presentation on this. Hello, 02:03:21.458 --> 02:03:28.638 - everyone. Thank you for having us. 02:03:28.770 --> 02:03:36.989 - I'm grateful to be joined by Amy Kendall, our executive director, and Laura, our treasurer today to 02:03:36.989 --> 02:03:45.866 - be with you. So glad they're here with us. And Melanie Veselich is our board president who may be somewhere 02:03:45.866 --> 02:03:54.168 - in the stratosphere with us today. I think many of you are familiar with Beacon Center and the goals 02:03:54.168 --> 02:03:56.798 - of Beacon Center in about 2021. 02:03:56.898 --> 02:04:04.249 - Beacon did a thorough assessment of its organization, of our organization, to determine where we needed 02:04:04.249 --> 02:04:11.741 - to go next and what was most holding us back. And we determined that facilities was the greatest obstacle 02:04:11.741 --> 02:04:18.880 - to continuing to do our work well. Through that, we came up with a needs assessment in terms of what 02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:26.302 - we felt was needed within the services that were missing. And we, over these years, have been developing 02:04:26.402 --> 02:04:37.031 - what we're calling Beacon Center. I think in short, just to be brief as possible, the core of what Beacon 02:04:37.031 --> 02:04:47.460 - Center does is it's a building that specifically will target services primarily for people experiencing 02:04:47.460 --> 02:04:55.582 - homelessness. And it does something that I think is very powerful and important. 02:04:55.714 --> 02:05:04.042 - whereas I think there's a lot of fear in our community about quantity of services for homelessness to 02:05:04.042 --> 02:05:12.370 - some degree that if you build more that more may come and such. We really focus on quality of service 02:05:12.370 --> 02:05:18.494 - in this and so while there is some expansion of shelter beds, for example, 02:05:18.594 --> 02:05:25.244 - The real focus was on what are the solutions that our community needs and how can we bring together 02:05:25.244 --> 02:05:31.961 - a center that really improves the quality of service for people struggling with homelessness so that 02:05:31.961 --> 02:05:39.742 - they get out of homelessness, not just sit in it and remain in it. And we're doing that through a threefold process. 02:05:39.874 --> 02:05:48.075 - emergency shelter, in our case, primarily targeting women because that's the huge gap in our community 02:05:48.075 --> 02:05:56.435 - at the moment. And that will and primarily the biggest innovation in that is we would have just we would 02:05:56.435 --> 02:06:00.734 - step away from bunk beds and step into just one level 02:06:00.898 --> 02:06:07.699 - beds and that is one of the greatest issues we're seeing right now with women in particular huge amount 02:06:07.699 --> 02:06:14.630 - of disability and challenge such that actually getting onto the second tier of a bunk bed is is difficult 02:06:14.630 --> 02:06:18.750 - and so we actually have empty beds that are on the second tier 02:06:18.850 --> 02:06:26.233 - that um cannot be accessed by by clients because we don't have enough clients that can climb those steps 02:06:26.233 --> 02:06:33.335 - to get to the top of bunk beds so just one minor thing dogs will be allowed and pets will be allowed 02:06:33.335 --> 02:06:40.577 - some couples beds to uh for people closely connected to to women um who come to the shelter um housing 02:06:40.577 --> 02:06:43.038 - will be huge and this is um uh the 02:06:43.554 --> 02:06:52.236 - So you may have heard that we're phasing the project. And so phase one will be dedicated to 20 apartments, 02:06:52.236 --> 02:07:01.000 - 22 apartments, 20 for people with severe disabilities, and two for people struggling with for work exchange 02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:09.764 - apartments. So people will work on site in exchange for housing. So a nice kind of work employment program. 02:07:09.764 --> 02:07:12.766 - And then lastly, the day center will 02:07:12.898 --> 02:07:20.918 - to be able to pull together and be really the service hub of all of the work that's being done there. 02:07:20.918 --> 02:07:28.938 - So a lot of innovations in that space, a kitchen for training. So we can teach people how to cook and 02:07:28.938 --> 02:07:37.037 - train there. We will have offices for visiting agencies. So Centerstone will have offices on site that 02:07:37.037 --> 02:07:39.710 - are specifically for Centerstone. 02:07:40.130 --> 02:07:47.671 - the health net will have a clinic built for them. And even the Bloomington Police Department will have 02:07:47.671 --> 02:07:55.359 - an office for the DROs where they can work the downtown resource officers, interfaith chapel, classroom, 02:07:55.359 --> 02:08:02.680 - employment center, lots of innovative kind of improvements built into the day center just so we can 02:08:02.680 --> 02:08:08.318 - prove the quality. And one of the things is the center where we really built 02:08:08.418 --> 02:08:16.068 - in a way so that when people enter the center, we can get to them quickly and we can work and address 02:08:16.068 --> 02:08:23.794 - their problems quickly in a process called diversion. So that the hopes would be then we can help them 02:08:23.794 --> 02:08:28.894 - avoid entering homelessness at all or entering it for very briefly. 02:08:29.090 --> 02:08:37.602 - Right now, this whole project, we estimate, will cost about $21 million. It's a significant project. 02:08:37.602 --> 02:08:45.945 - It's about 45,000 square feet, a very large facility. We have obtained enough money at the moment. 02:08:45.945 --> 02:08:52.350 - Right now, we've raised a bit over $14.2 million, I believe, is our current 02:08:53.346 --> 02:08:59.745 - like in hand that we've raised, um, we have a good beat on another two and a half million. So we're 02:08:59.745 --> 02:09:06.592 - currently a $4 million gap approximately to, um, to complete the entire center. Phase one is fully funded. 02:09:06.592 --> 02:09:13.247 - We'll be doing it in two phases and we'll be starting groundbreaking on that probably in December. And, 02:09:13.247 --> 02:09:19.838 - um, and then we'll, uh, work towards phase two so that we can, when we fill that, that final gap, that 02:09:19.838 --> 02:09:23.038 - funding gap of four million so that we can finish 02:09:23.170 --> 02:09:30.506 - the rest phase one will be the housing phase two will be the overnight shelter in the day center so 02:09:30.506 --> 02:09:38.136 - we're here talking to you with the hopes that perhaps you might be willing to help us in part fill that 02:09:38.136 --> 02:09:45.619 - gap thank you yes council member decker thank you very much for us for being here it's always good to 02:09:45.619 --> 02:09:52.222 - see you and your team and i i had just a question for a comparison this day center versus 02:09:52.546 --> 02:10:01.511 - let's say the Shalom Center. What's the square footage of Shalom Center versus this? Well, the current 02:10:01.511 --> 02:10:10.476 - Shalom Center right now is including offices and the day center itself and our family housing program, 02:10:10.476 --> 02:10:19.006 - which are all housed in this one building, 7,200 square feet. That's an old used furniture store. 02:10:19.170 --> 02:10:27.497 - and anyone who spends any time in there realizes we've been incredibly impressive with the space use 02:10:27.497 --> 02:10:35.907 - and and it's a mess and very very tight and very challenged space right now for example Amy and I are 02:10:35.907 --> 02:10:44.894 - meeting in our library because our offices are under construction because of a roof leak so that's it's just 02:10:45.026 --> 02:10:51.775 - It's just part of the nature of the challenges. So we have no offices at the moment as an example of 02:10:51.775 --> 02:10:57.990 - some of the struggles we have in the building. So this goes from 7,200 to a total of 45,000. 02:10:57.990 --> 02:11:05.207 - Yes. Approximately. Approximately half of that will be the housing. So about 22,000 will be the apartments. 02:11:05.207 --> 02:11:08.414 - And this is the overnight shelter is about four 02:11:09.666 --> 02:11:17.207 - 4,400, I believe, so that's about 11,000. So it's about a doubling of the overnight shelter and the 02:11:17.207 --> 02:11:25.050 - day center space, approximately. Yeah, and office space, yeah. Council Member Iverson. Thank you, Madam 02:11:25.050 --> 02:11:33.119 - President. Forrest, thank you for being here. And I do get confirmation that Melanie Vestalage is watching 02:11:33.119 --> 02:11:37.342 - on cats, so she's hearing everything we're saying here. 02:11:37.666 --> 02:11:47.707 - I had a couple of questions for you on this. First of all, this request for these funds, is this a recurring 02:11:47.707 --> 02:11:57.471 - request? Will this come back to us year after year? I believe the approach would be that we're requesting 02:11:57.471 --> 02:11:59.774 - one gift over two years. 02:12:00.706 --> 02:12:07.426 - So one of the options we have is to do one million now and just help them right now so they've lost 02:12:07.426 --> 02:12:14.280 - some funding and that's what we're trying to bridge the gap to and I know we provided ARPA funding in 02:12:14.280 --> 02:12:21.000 - the past and got them a long way toward where they're getting phase one done and we're so impressed 02:12:21.000 --> 02:12:24.830 - but they did lose some funding that they had thought was 02:12:25.154 --> 02:12:33.917 - So they need a million from us. We asked the city to also contribute as well. So we are going to encourage 02:12:33.917 --> 02:12:42.189 - our friends at the city council to do the same. But we could do it with edit and we could do 500,000 02:12:42.189 --> 02:12:48.414 - this year and commit to 500,000 next year or we can do 1 million this year. 02:12:48.642 --> 02:13:00.164 - and help them more immediately, which I think would be better. We agreed that we wanted to do this ask 02:13:00.164 --> 02:13:11.573 - in this way, but if you're uncomfortable with that, we could change it to 500,000 this year, 500,027. 02:13:11.573 --> 02:13:17.278 - Yes, Council Member Woods. I'll just say I support 02:13:17.538 --> 02:13:31.388 - this and the other work that you do, Mr. Gilmore. So I appreciate the commissioners putting this together 02:13:31.388 --> 02:13:44.454 - because housing is so fundamental. And it's, I mean, that's all I can say. I am curious. I know you 02:13:44.454 --> 02:13:47.198 - have friend's place. 02:13:47.330 --> 02:13:55.038 - is and is that going to stay open? I mean, I know we're talking long, long term at this point. Yeah, 02:13:55.038 --> 02:14:03.051 - friends place would be integrated into the building. So the emergency shelter would become friends place 02:14:03.051 --> 02:14:10.988 - in essence. Yeah. OK. And thoughts on the property that you currently have. Are there any ideas on what 02:14:10.988 --> 02:14:17.246 - you might do with that? The day center at 620 South Walnut is owned by us. And so 02:14:17.442 --> 02:14:28.580 - We haven't determined exactly what we plan to do with that. But right now that the potential income 02:14:28.580 --> 02:14:39.830 - from that is in our capital stack. So probably we'll sell it unless we raise a lot of money and then 02:14:39.830 --> 02:14:44.062 - we might preserve for some other use. 02:14:44.194 --> 02:14:53.564 - The shelter at 919 South Rogers Friends Place is owned by Perry Township trustee and and they're they're 02:14:53.564 --> 02:15:02.934 - determining what they plan to do with it when we move into the one center. Do you currently rent Friends 02:15:02.934 --> 02:15:05.790 - Place or is that just provided? 02:15:06.690 --> 02:15:15.328 - I think they actually pay us one dollar a year to use it. For a purpose. That's how it works. I was 02:15:15.328 --> 02:15:24.830 - just wondering if that would save you some money also if you didn't have to pay rent there. One dollar. Yeah. 02:15:25.282 --> 02:15:33.093 - I didn't mention this, but of that $21 million, $2 million of that is operational reserves. So it's 02:15:33.093 --> 02:15:40.904 - giving us a move-in fund for the first five years, approximately a $200,000 boost per year to allow 02:15:40.904 --> 02:15:48.871 - us to adapt to additional costs in the new building, because it will be bigger. We'll have more costs 02:15:48.871 --> 02:15:52.542 - related to maintenance and utilities and such. 02:15:53.218 --> 02:16:00.324 - And staffing, honestly, it's going to require more staffing to really do what we need to do there. So 02:16:00.324 --> 02:16:07.709 - without these funds from us and or the city, your timeline will be severely lagging, I'm guessing, right? 02:16:07.709 --> 02:16:14.815 - Yeah, our current issue about I mean, right now, phase two is completely off the table until we close 02:16:14.815 --> 02:16:16.766 - that gap, that funding gap. 02:16:16.930 --> 02:16:24.538 - And so the timeline could be very quick if we're able to raise that money quickly. And there might not 02:16:24.538 --> 02:16:32.294 - be a significant delay between phase one and phase two. Conceivably, we could even begin phase two while 02:16:32.294 --> 02:16:39.681 - phase one is going. But that will all depend on fundraising. Thank you. So I understand that you're 02:16:39.681 --> 02:16:46.846 - coming to us with that conversation. Have those conversations started with the city and is there 02:16:47.202 --> 02:16:57.502 - any hope that that will happen? As you're probably aware, there are some legal issues between us and 02:16:57.502 --> 02:17:07.803 - the city at the moment, which I'll say no more about, that prevent some forms of negotiation at this 02:17:07.803 --> 02:17:11.678 - point and conversation at this point. 02:17:11.778 --> 02:17:20.026 - The city and the mayor's office has expressed interest in supporting it, but we haven't worked out any 02:17:20.026 --> 02:17:28.434 - kind of detail at all at this point. The mayor has expressed, as well as the planning department, strong 02:17:28.434 --> 02:17:36.522 - interest in its completion and its success. So we are very grateful for that support, but we haven't 02:17:36.522 --> 02:17:40.766 - gotten to any kind of final financial possibilities. 02:17:40.866 --> 02:17:48.909 - However, there are other sources that we're also exploring that are not defined yet. They're not definitive, 02:17:48.909 --> 02:17:56.288 - but they are hopeful. To answer my next question, because my next question would be if that doesn't 02:17:56.288 --> 02:18:02.782 - come through, then what other sources of revenue would you be looking to get with that? 02:18:03.170 --> 02:18:13.791 - Yeah, the lotto is one that we've been considering. But that's a long shot. But no, on a more serious 02:18:13.791 --> 02:18:24.203 - level, that is a joke, unless it works out. But right now, we have a multi-layered approach, all of 02:18:24.203 --> 02:18:26.910 - which are very tentative. 02:18:27.010 --> 02:18:35.872 - We do intend to return to our donors and talk to them about perhaps adding a year to the five-year pledges 02:18:35.872 --> 02:18:44.320 - that we've gotten so far. Our top donors have, if they were to extend a year, would be $2 million. We 02:18:44.320 --> 02:18:52.768 - don't expect that we could acquire that full $2 million, but we think that $1 million from our donors 02:18:52.768 --> 02:18:54.590 - would be a reasonable 02:18:54.690 --> 02:19:04.317 - expansion possibility. We are looking and have had good conversations with local foundations about options 02:19:04.317 --> 02:19:13.494 - and this and and if that this were to come through those those things will could all if they all were 02:19:13.494 --> 02:19:20.062 - to come through they could get us pretty close if not all the way there. 02:19:22.242 --> 02:19:29.218 - Yes, thank you. I just wanted to conclude my statements by saying I'm on the board, obviously, I don't 02:19:29.218 --> 02:19:36.127 - get compensated for being on the board. But I do think that it bears to say that the environment that 02:19:36.127 --> 02:19:43.374 - this is being brought to us is really stark. Homelessness is being criminalized. And if you watch Friday's 02:19:43.374 --> 02:19:48.318 - must meeting, you know that the township trustees are up against a wall. 02:19:48.418 --> 02:19:58.600 - So I think anything we can do to strengthen the social safety net here in this community is worth doing. 02:19:58.600 --> 02:20:08.491 - So I'll be supporting this. Yeah. Thank you. So overall, yeah, I think it makes sense to do the, just 02:20:08.491 --> 02:20:13.630 - the one time support. To do that, you know, because, 02:20:14.370 --> 02:20:21.570 - and can't make things up. We have no idea what we will be able to do in the following years. 02:20:21.570 --> 02:20:29.699 - And that could, while we have the opportunity, until our friends up north of 65 here will change things, 02:20:29.699 --> 02:20:37.518 - we might as well do what we need to do while we are able to do it. That's just my thought. I will be 02:20:37.518 --> 02:20:44.254 - remiss if I hadn't, and I appreciate the work and I've volunteered in the past before. 02:20:44.898 --> 02:20:52.355 - while we're on the conversation and on the topic of that, I know that we had the other conversation 02:20:52.355 --> 02:20:59.962 - with I'm heading home and using that funding as well. The L. A. T. C. F. Funding as well, too. And so 02:20:59.962 --> 02:21:07.643 - while I'm thinking of this and definitely appreciate all the things that you all are doing to, I guess 02:21:07.643 --> 02:21:13.534 - I I'm not asking for added for this particular because it sounds we had forced 02:21:14.050 --> 02:21:22.958 - I would like to see that moved as well, if I'm making any sense here. Because we approved what we needed 02:21:22.958 --> 02:21:31.866 - to do here on our end, and I'm just saying, with that respect, while we're thinking about all the things 02:21:31.866 --> 02:21:40.520 - here, I would like to see how the LATCF funding could be pushed through on Commissioner's side. Yeah, 02:21:40.520 --> 02:21:43.998 - we are actually waiting on the contract. 02:21:44.130 --> 02:21:49.716 - So that's all we're waiting on. Okay. Nevermind. Yeah. Okay. That's it. It's just, okay. Cause I saw 02:21:49.716 --> 02:21:55.191 - some for another browser. I was like, I must accept that. No, no. It's okay. The gears are moving. 02:21:55.191 --> 02:22:00.888 - I got it. I just, they're outside of my purview. So, okay. Okay. Yeah. Cause I think it's the funniest 02:22:00.888 --> 02:22:06.418 - to go through community foundation. And so we need to set up a contract. Okay. Okay. That in route. 02:22:06.418 --> 02:22:11.838 - Okay. We are all on the same page. Okay. We're good. All right. Thank you. Council member Decker. 02:22:12.002 --> 02:22:18.914 - And I appreciate that very much. And I appreciate this proposal and request. And some of us, 02:22:18.914 --> 02:22:26.494 - some of us, you know, as individuals in this community have had this project kind of on our mind. And 02:22:26.494 --> 02:22:34.074 - I want to say, gosh, two, three years ago, I don't know whenever I sat down with you on second street 02:22:34.074 --> 02:22:40.094 - and your team and what a textbook interaction with that neighborhood to get this 02:22:40.418 --> 02:22:47.315 - to a point, and that's what I said in the meeting. I said, working with these neighbors, talking about 02:22:47.315 --> 02:22:54.278 - this, that's your headache ahead. I didn't know that the dollars would be difficult due to changes that 02:22:54.278 --> 02:23:01.242 - are happening out there. And that's kind of where I want to comment, if I can, Madam President, is that 02:23:01.242 --> 02:23:06.398 - we are dealing with the streets to stability program. We're dealing with the 02:23:06.722 --> 02:23:12.610 - this project. We've got these things floating before Bailiwick and you know earlier when Mr. Crone was 02:23:12.610 --> 02:23:18.613 - here we're talking about things counties are doing now that they used to not do. This is an area I think 02:23:18.613 --> 02:23:24.558 - that we're having to do a lot more because somebody's got to do something. It can't we can't just leave 02:23:24.558 --> 02:23:30.560 - not-for-profits and good intentions and a couple churches and a Hail Mary Pass and this is where I would 02:23:30.560 --> 02:23:35.934 - say to our federal and state friends there was a time when I think there was greater activity 02:23:36.162 --> 02:23:43.073 - on their parts to do this. But here's what I see now. Our federal and state friends watch us do something 02:23:43.073 --> 02:23:49.788 - or worse, they look at our community where they also like our football games. They also like our bars. 02:23:49.788 --> 02:23:56.438 - Occasionally they'll send a son or daughter down here. They look at us and instead they talk about us 02:23:56.438 --> 02:24:03.022 - like we're zoo animals. And we have a damn fine community. We have a lot we have to do and we can do 02:24:03.022 --> 02:24:05.630 - it. And this is what talking about this 02:24:06.114 --> 02:24:13.641 - with the area leader on all these issues is what a local government is doing because there's a gap. 02:24:13.641 --> 02:24:21.619 - So federal and state friends out there, I know you honestly, you don't give a whatever on what I'm saying 02:24:21.619 --> 02:24:29.296 - clearly, but there was a time when there was involvement. And I think if ever there was a time to get 02:24:29.296 --> 02:24:33.662 - into the game, it would be now and not do the zoo animal. 02:24:33.858 --> 02:24:40.883 - let's look and see what they're doing over in the Republic. Because this is what faith leaders, government 02:24:40.883 --> 02:24:47.778 - leaders, join with not-for-profit leaders to figure out the dignity of life and solutions. None of these 02:24:47.778 --> 02:24:54.541 - things are 100% guaranteed for this or that. But my God, try something, rather than drive past on your 02:24:54.541 --> 02:25:01.566 - way to that stadium and say, wonder why they live like this here. This is our call. And I think that we've 02:25:01.698 --> 02:25:07.782 - You know, I've been putting that out in every meeting I can. And I hope all of our friends out there 02:25:07.782 --> 02:25:13.986 - that are watching this, when they have our other branch leaders into their entities, are talking about 02:25:13.986 --> 02:25:20.311 - that. Because there was a time, for right or wrong, it wasn't always right. And it wasn't always handled 02:25:20.311 --> 02:25:26.575 - well. But at least they were present in those discussions. So I'll shut up before I ruin it. But I just 02:25:26.575 --> 02:25:29.406 - think that this can't get lost in the shuffle. 02:25:33.506 --> 02:25:42.138 - Anybody else? I'll bring it back to our edit conversation. Thank you, Mr. Gilmore, for that presentation. 02:25:42.138 --> 02:25:50.281 - We appreciate that, and I'll let you do. So bringing it back overall to the edit conversation, does 02:25:50.281 --> 02:25:58.995 - council members have any, as presented, we see here, does anybody have any hesitations, hiccups, concerns, 02:25:58.995 --> 02:26:01.438 - rainbows, skittles, anything? 02:26:06.370 --> 02:26:14.764 - I have a question that goes back to, but it goes back to the GEO bonds. So I'll hold it back for a minute. 02:26:14.764 --> 02:26:22.610 - I know they're related, but I'll hold that for a minute. Yeah, because it's not about the edit. Oh, 02:26:22.610 --> 02:26:29.278 - okay. All right. Anybody else have, oh, I see Councilor Iverson's hand up. Yes, sir. 02:26:29.570 --> 02:26:37.193 - I can't see the screen very well from where I'm sitting, but I just wanted to make sure that all the 02:26:37.193 --> 02:26:45.345 - changes that we made through our six nights of departmental budget hearings are reflected in this document. 02:26:45.345 --> 02:26:52.968 - Yes and no. Yeah. So what is proposed here is my understanding is that $1.5 million was removed from 02:26:52.968 --> 02:26:59.006 - the cumulative capital development fund because of a legitimate concern for the 02:26:59.138 --> 02:27:08.212 - sustainability of that particular fund. The proposal is because it's a capital fund, put the software 02:27:08.212 --> 02:27:17.287 - back in, but take the personnel out because, and this ties into our bond conversations, we can manage 02:27:17.287 --> 02:27:26.361 - the cumulative capital fund if it's just capital, because if there's something that has to happen and 02:27:26.361 --> 02:27:28.318 - we can't do it out of 02:27:28.642 --> 02:27:38.003 - we can't do personnel in a bond. So remove the personnel from cumulative capital. They can go into edit. 02:27:38.003 --> 02:27:47.275 - I think they should just go into county general. To me, it's six of one, half a dozen of the other when 02:27:47.275 --> 02:27:56.190 - we're talking this. And if you take the personnel out, then you also take the self-insurance out of 02:27:56.190 --> 02:27:57.438 - the CCD fund. 02:27:57.762 --> 02:28:07.232 - And that's noted on here. And those numbers, the personnel number and the self-insurance number reflects 02:28:07.232 --> 02:28:16.882 - the removal that you already have done of the GIS person and moved them into the surveyor's county general 02:28:16.882 --> 02:28:24.638 - budget. So I just wanted to kind of make my pitch to switch things back a little bit. 02:28:24.962 --> 02:28:32.284 - Yeah, so this is not what you talked about at your budget hearings in that sense. But so it is a proposal 02:28:32.284 --> 02:28:39.605 - that we're making, but it involves a discussion about community, I'm sorry, Community Capital Development 02:28:39.605 --> 02:28:46.720 - Fund, County General, Edit and Geobond all at the same time, but it makes sense to address all of them 02:28:46.720 --> 02:28:51.486 - at the same time because we had to figure out where those pieces go. 02:28:52.258 --> 02:29:00.462 - the software into the geo bond. However, I would not recommend that. I think that I really believe that 02:29:00.462 --> 02:29:08.588 - CCD can handle this 1.5 million for 27. This is the proposed budget for 27. And then especially if you 02:29:08.588 --> 02:29:16.634 - remove the personnel, that's going to give it some breathing room. And then after that, we can manage 02:29:16.634 --> 02:29:17.502 - from there 02:29:18.946 --> 02:29:26.903 - just the CCD and general obligation bonds. Right. Yeah, because I noticed the self-insurance was off 02:29:26.903 --> 02:29:34.782 - like exactly 18,038, which is an individual. So that was what I was looking at. Yes. Council member 02:29:34.782 --> 02:29:42.897 - Decker. Well, I remember the last whatever meeting we were in here, I think Thursday and the auditor's 02:29:42.897 --> 02:29:48.254 - office and the teeter totter balance they have to do on the levies. 02:29:48.610 --> 02:29:55.396 - I guess my thought is on all this, if we were to pass that over, they could analyze, because that's 02:29:55.396 --> 02:30:02.249 - a whole, and I'm not saying do it right now, because good heavens, that'd make me run screaming from 02:30:02.249 --> 02:30:09.442 - this room. But I think because we're, you know, and here's another example. With the state, we're playing 02:30:09.442 --> 02:30:16.702 - multiple checkers games here. These are important, but they're the law. And so they're there for a reason. 02:30:17.026 --> 02:30:24.960 - And I think that that kind of analysis we will need for all this, I would think. So I don't want to 02:30:24.960 --> 02:30:32.974 - put Ms. Woodruff on the spot, because I know when we change these things, you all have to go back in 02:30:32.974 --> 02:30:40.909 - and redo all the lines. Is this something? I know the auditor isn't here, but what would you say in 02:30:40.909 --> 02:30:44.638 - this regard? Just to back up for a little bit, 02:30:45.154 --> 02:30:51.973 - the software line is one line we would have to move salaries and fringe and all of that and so it would 02:30:51.973 --> 02:30:58.596 - take quite a bit of work for both the council office and our office not that we're not wanting to do 02:30:58.596 --> 02:31:05.284 - work it's just the more that we have to do especially with the troubles we've had with the new budget 02:31:05.284 --> 02:31:07.710 - process that is one layer to look at 02:31:07.810 --> 02:31:14.405 - Um, another layer, I tried to interpret what I saw on the grid that's in front of you and I do see based 02:31:14.405 --> 02:31:20.748 - on my calculations and they're very rough. It does look like we would still have a deficit budget in 02:31:20.748 --> 02:31:27.343 - the CCD fund if we went with this plan. Yes, that would be less than the 3 million, which is what you're 02:31:27.343 --> 02:31:29.918 - proposed. That's your internal, I think. 02:31:30.978 --> 02:31:37.233 - So that's the cash balance. So the cash balance would be less than the three million. And then the deficit 02:31:37.233 --> 02:31:43.253 - would also be just under 200,000 based on very, very rough numbers. That does concern us slightly. And 02:31:43.253 --> 02:31:49.216 - I'd be happy to speak with them because I've not had a chance to talk to them about this because I do 02:31:49.216 --> 02:31:55.354 - think that we can talk about it. I think the biggest problem really is the fact that it's multiple lines 02:31:55.354 --> 02:32:00.030 - when you talk in personnel versus one line that you can just kind of slip over. 02:32:00.162 --> 02:32:09.220 - I do think that. In the long run. Initial move of all those is better than. Than the one, but I do want 02:32:09.220 --> 02:32:18.192 - to be able to speak with three and with Carly because it didn't have that opportunity. OK, and I would 02:32:18.192 --> 02:32:26.989 - say another potential option here. If we're talking about a smallish deficit in CCD is to move maybe 02:32:26.989 --> 02:32:29.950 - 500,000 of the software line into 02:32:30.466 --> 02:32:39.798 - I mean, it's not ideal, but if, you know, I'm just going to throw that out there. But the problem is, 02:32:39.798 --> 02:32:48.947 - is that instead of having them move all this stuff, if there's a way that the discussion can happen 02:32:48.947 --> 02:32:59.102 - sort of on a meta level and instead of having to actually move things in the software, in the law of software, 02:32:59.202 --> 02:33:07.470 - just to get a feel for what y'all want to do, what the auditor thinks are problems or benefits to any 02:33:07.470 --> 02:33:15.899 - of these items. But this is just our recommendation. And I don't know how we have this discussion next. 02:33:15.899 --> 02:33:24.086 - I mean, do you want us to come back in October at your October meeting and to talk about this again? 02:33:24.086 --> 02:33:28.382 - Or what are we going to do? Because GeoBond and Edit 02:33:28.482 --> 02:33:38.883 - to be done in the next month or so. The other thing I would say is we could actually reduce the software 02:33:38.883 --> 02:33:49.482 - line to one million, which is $500,000. And if we reach a point that we need to go back for an additional, 02:33:49.482 --> 02:33:57.406 - we can do that. So we can reduce it. And we've now offset the $200,000 deficit. 02:33:59.842 --> 02:34:06.829 - I don't think that we need the 1.5. That is just us based on what we anticipate needing. So this is 02:34:06.829 --> 02:34:14.374 - not a hard number in the sense that it's just what an anticipated costs for us. So things change. Sometimes 02:34:14.374 --> 02:34:21.920 - we can't get the things we wanted to get so we don't even buy it at all, right? So there's some flexibility 02:34:21.920 --> 02:34:23.806 - in that number of the 1.5. 02:34:25.794 --> 02:34:31.883 - I think I saw Councilmember Feidl's hand raise and then I'll go Feidl and then Wilts. So that kind of 02:34:31.883 --> 02:34:38.091 - brings up my question, which is, is there a software plan for that one and a half million? And you were 02:34:38.091 --> 02:34:44.061 - alluding to some of that. Maybe we don't need to do that right away, right? I mean, I would hate to 02:34:44.061 --> 02:34:50.269 - think about borrowing money by putting it in the GEO bond. Absolutely. That's why I would not recommend 02:34:50.269 --> 02:34:55.582 - this go into GEO bond. It can go, it meets the criteria, but I would not recommend that. 02:34:55.746 --> 02:35:04.958 - The software line that is being discussed pays for our allow, our Microsoft, all of the software programs 02:35:04.958 --> 02:35:14.083 - that are used across the county, GIS. Yeah, so I mean there's a lot. What is our current amount we spend 02:35:14.083 --> 02:35:21.470 - on software? Maybe that's the question. I think this year our budget is one million. 02:35:21.858 --> 02:35:32.338 - It had been reduced. I had requested 1.5 for 2026, reduced at that time to one. And I haven't looked 02:35:32.338 --> 02:35:43.649 - at it. Carly's going to kill you. Carly's going to tell you what it is. And so we have flexibility somewhat. 02:35:43.649 --> 02:35:48.318 - I mean, and with options, right? Absolutely. 02:35:53.698 --> 02:36:05.633 - So we have a million appropriated and we have expended $775,000 at this point. So based on that unless. 02:36:05.633 --> 02:36:17.108 - Now that we've had our comic relief. So we do have incoming bills that's going to eat the rest that 02:36:17.108 --> 02:36:19.518 - remaining budget up. 02:36:19.682 --> 02:36:26.437 - We do know we're going to exceed that next year. I'm currently already taking on more contracts to improve 02:36:26.437 --> 02:36:33.130 - security posture, especially with our email programs and stuff like that. So we are incurring more costs. 02:36:33.130 --> 02:36:39.759 - So we are going to go north of that million line. We already know that's going to happen. But that said, 02:36:39.759 --> 02:36:45.630 - we have some flexibility within the CCD fund, within the other categories, special projects. 02:36:46.338 --> 02:36:55.215 - When, for instance, we use that money, part of that money, to pay for the water heater fiasco at the 02:36:55.215 --> 02:37:04.004 - Johnson Hardware Building. So we have to, when we were talking about the GO bonds and the needs and 02:37:04.004 --> 02:37:12.969 - people having needs now and having needs later and those needs that we don't even know about, we keep 02:37:12.969 --> 02:37:15.518 - this amorphous ball in play. 02:37:16.130 --> 02:37:27.055 - And so I think that to reduce it to one million and return it into CCD and get the personnel out, and 02:37:27.055 --> 02:37:37.766 - we'll talk. Sorry. We'll meet the needs of all of it. I really do. But we will talk. You guys don't 02:37:37.766 --> 02:37:46.014 - have to do anything. And they can come and say they don't like Angie's idea. 02:37:46.466 --> 02:37:53.589 - Okay, so. Including what Greg was talking about, the upcoming. Yes. Okay. That's where I was talking 02:37:53.589 --> 02:38:00.642 - about, we have other lines, special project line that allows us to do things. And so if we have to. 02:38:00.642 --> 02:38:07.977 - And that's historically what we've done. We've always kind of budged right there and then worked around 02:38:07.977 --> 02:38:12.350 - that, did what we had to. Thank you for really explaining it. 02:38:12.866 --> 02:38:20.756 - It's clear as mud, right? That's why I keep asking the questions, trying to sort through that mud. Uh-huh. 02:38:20.756 --> 02:38:28.351 - OK. Because ideally, the thing that we are up against is the time clock of making sure we can have the 02:38:28.351 --> 02:38:35.060 - conversation. Because again, we have, what, three more meetings before our final adoption, 02:38:35.060 --> 02:38:40.222 - which is the 6th, and then we got the 13th, and then we had the 20th. 02:38:40.322 --> 02:38:47.672 - And ideally, I think in my mind, the goal was to have this presentation so we can kind of figure out 02:38:47.672 --> 02:38:54.949 - where we wanted to go with tonight, potentially, if that was something that you all were okay with, 02:38:54.949 --> 02:39:02.589 - because you all have to come up with the plan and approve that at your meeting. And then if things don't 02:39:02.589 --> 02:39:08.702 - go as planned, then it goes back to council for, you know, longer sessions where we 02:39:09.026 --> 02:39:17.335 - are having to figure out some, you know, talk about juggling everything like that's where we would have 02:39:17.335 --> 02:39:25.645 - to go. So I guess I do. I am very curious about reducing that software line to the million and figuring 02:39:25.645 --> 02:39:33.635 - out what would be our next steps. And so that would actually be kind of helpful. So if we can maybe 02:39:33.635 --> 02:39:37.310 - have that kind of conversation and then maybe 02:39:39.650 --> 02:39:47.984 - I would say the six, maybe we could have that. And then, um, do y'all have a meeting on the eighth? 02:39:47.984 --> 02:39:55.817 - What month are we in? Oh, we are already on total. We have a meeting on the eighth. Okay. Um, 02:39:55.817 --> 02:40:04.234 - not the 15th, but the eighth and the 22nd would be, and I think that we wouldn't need to figure out, 02:40:04.234 --> 02:40:08.318 - um, soon because, um, we can, we can definitely. 02:40:08.962 --> 02:40:15.531 - have the conversation. We can do it. I can share it with them. They can have it at their meeting. They 02:40:15.531 --> 02:40:22.291 - can share it with you guys, and then you can have it at your meeting. So we already passed the resolution 02:40:22.291 --> 02:40:28.286 - on the geobond with the $6.5 million because that was the max, so we do that just to be sure. 02:40:28.386 --> 02:40:34.566 - So we're actually good on that, because that's ready to go. The edit piece we just have to do before 02:40:34.566 --> 02:40:40.930 - the end of the year. So there's no urgency really on our end. I think it's a matter of your end because 02:40:40.930 --> 02:40:47.355 - we're talking about CCD and County General. That's where the urgency is. But then for the edit geo bond, 02:40:47.355 --> 02:40:53.475 - it's really, yeah, be great to get this done October, November. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. 02:40:53.475 --> 02:40:57.758 - I think the idea is in my mind and what I was going with, like I know 02:40:58.242 --> 02:41:05.135 - we just want to make sure like this is something that we were getting ahead like early on instead of 02:41:05.135 --> 02:41:12.302 - just doing this and then just kind of putting you all on the spot. And I think it's really been, I think 02:41:12.302 --> 02:41:19.605 - if we can do this next year again where we do both at the same time, it is really useful because otherwise 02:41:19.605 --> 02:41:26.430 - we're plate spinning and they don't talk to each other and we should be looking at this as a whole. 02:41:27.074 --> 02:41:34.767 - rather than separate parts. Honestly, to be quite honest, I do like how this flow of conversation has 02:41:34.767 --> 02:41:42.385 - had and it's like all equal parts of us trying to figure out how to make this work because obviously 02:41:42.385 --> 02:41:50.003 - at the end of the day what we had thought about was if we can move some over to ease up the general, 02:41:50.003 --> 02:41:53.246 - the common goal that all of us want to see 02:41:53.506 --> 02:42:02.769 - is to make sure we're taking care of our county employees and giving that COLA by any means necessary. 02:42:02.769 --> 02:42:11.763 - So I do appreciate this dialogue and this conversation and back and forth. It has eased my anxiety. 02:42:11.763 --> 02:42:20.846 - So I appreciate it. Did I see? Michelle, and then I'll circle back to Councilor Wilts. So I was just 02:42:20.846 --> 02:42:23.454 - thinking, if we want to have 02:42:24.002 --> 02:42:33.377 - correct numbers to read at the first reading of the for the public hearing. I would assume we would 02:42:33.377 --> 02:42:42.751 - want you would want to direct us to make those changes in allow as in as well as in gateway so that 02:42:42.751 --> 02:42:52.407 - we would have those numbers ready and prepared for you on the sixth. Because I cannot foresee us being 02:42:52.407 --> 02:42:53.438 - able to do 02:42:54.370 --> 02:43:03.381 - all of these changes live, especially if you're gonna go with moving personnel numbers. And so I think 02:43:03.381 --> 02:43:12.304 - you would need to make a decision tonight saying move forward with their recommendations, blah, blah, 02:43:12.304 --> 02:43:21.052 - blah, or we'll just wait kind of thing. And I don't know if Angie and them need to take a break and 02:43:21.052 --> 02:43:22.014 - talk about 02:43:23.010 --> 02:43:30.963 - that for this but personally with that many changes I would like to know now before the six and that's 02:43:30.963 --> 02:43:38.916 - actually what I'm getting at because that in my mind my walking into this meeting it was that any type 02:43:38.916 --> 02:43:47.178 - of directive or whatever we need to do needs to be given for your offices to ensure numbers and everything 02:43:47.178 --> 02:43:49.726 - are accurate for the six correct 02:43:54.146 --> 02:44:02.181 - have a spreadsheet that shows where everything on this list currently is so we know where to move it 02:44:02.181 --> 02:44:10.295 - from and to you have that ready can could we take like a 10 minute break have that quick conversation 02:44:10.295 --> 02:44:18.250 - and get those details ironed out before we could be possible I want to go to council worlds because 02:44:18.250 --> 02:44:23.262 - I know she had her hand raised first again I want to ask about 02:44:23.458 --> 02:44:32.141 - the bond which is so I just I'm you just want to get to the bond I just have some money to ask but so 02:44:32.141 --> 02:44:41.164 - they can do that I mean come back and I can then okay fine okay so what we will do council members online 02:44:41.164 --> 02:44:49.677 - is we will take a 10 minute recess rounded up to 13 and even eight so the time is 747 so we'll come 02:44:49.677 --> 02:44:51.294 - back promptly at 8 02:44:51.426 --> 02:45:01.310 - And we will finish it out and go from there. OK. All right. So we'll take a quick recess. Yeah. 02:45:01.310 --> 02:45:11.914 - Eight o'clock. All right. And scene. OK. This is fun. It's like a cliffhanger. OK. And we're back like 02:45:11.914 --> 02:45:20.254 - we never left. And so I'm going to look to the auditor's table for a discussion. 02:45:20.386 --> 02:45:28.017 - for folks that might have joined us after or trying to figure out what happened. We are looking at some 02:45:28.017 --> 02:45:35.428 - numbers and it was proposed that we could potentially reduce the edit amount from the 1.5 million to 02:45:35.428 --> 02:45:43.646 - the million. And that is where we were left at. So I'm looking to Ms. Woodruff to see what did we come up with. 02:45:45.794 --> 02:45:54.422 - the table on the screen in front of you should show in the left-hand columns where the budgets currently 02:45:54.422 --> 02:46:03.132 - stand. The right-hand columns show the suggested lines for that are being presented by the Commissioner's 02:46:03.132 --> 02:46:11.349 - Office. So that includes the fund, account, and location. We tried to color-code them so everything 02:46:11.349 --> 02:46:14.718 - fund 1138 on both sides is in blue, 1112 02:46:14.850 --> 02:46:22.686 - is yellow, so on and so forth. So hopefully that makes reading these numbers a little bit easier, but 02:46:22.686 --> 02:46:30.368 - everything is simply moving from the left-hand column to the right-hand column, and the only change 02:46:30.368 --> 02:46:38.512 - in value is going to be the reduction from 1.5 to 1 million when we move that from one fund to the other. 02:46:38.512 --> 02:46:43.966 - We're also creating that new line for Beacon. Okay. Sounds good. Okay. 02:46:44.418 --> 02:46:56.601 - make a motion to do as the auditors beautiful spreadsheet shows. I so move it. Okay. We got a motion 02:46:56.601 --> 02:47:08.542 - and a second to for these proposed changes. Are there any further discussion from Council on this? 02:47:15.042 --> 02:47:23.629 - I also have my one question. Again, I was just going to say I appreciate having this conversation and 02:47:23.629 --> 02:47:32.385 - us doing the edit conversation this way. And I know Commissioner Thomas and I just mentioned that maybe 02:47:32.385 --> 02:47:41.056 - this is something that we could do in the future when we do this. So this is actually it's been a good 02:47:41.056 --> 02:47:43.582 - conversation, I would say. So 02:47:43.970 --> 02:47:54.639 - We're coming back to the underlying motion. And Councilor Feidl second that. Seeing no other further 02:47:54.639 --> 02:48:05.202 - questions or comments, and we still got folks online. Maybe please have a roll call vote. Councilor 02:48:05.202 --> 02:48:11.646 - Crossley? Yes. Councilor Iverson? Yes. Councilor Feidl? Yes. 02:48:13.570 --> 02:48:26.260 - Councilor Henry? Not online. Okay. Councilor Wilts? Yes. Councilor Decker? Yes. Motion passes five to 02:48:26.260 --> 02:48:39.074 - zero. Okay. Thank you very much. And so yeah, yes. So that's everything. And then so that I think this 02:48:39.074 --> 02:48:42.558 - makes our our budget season 02:48:43.938 --> 02:48:50.812 - a lot more easier. So we appreciate that. Thank you very much. Do you need us back here on the six for 02:48:50.812 --> 02:48:57.486 - this particularly? I mean, because the decision was we needed to make sure that we made whatever we 02:48:57.486 --> 02:49:04.294 - want to do, we needed to do it like now. And we just did it. And Councilor Wilts made that motion. It 02:49:04.294 --> 02:49:11.902 - was second and we just approved it. So awesome. So I think if we don't have any other further discussion or edit, 02:49:12.194 --> 02:49:21.547 - I'm gonna go back to the Geobond, because I know Councilor Wilts has been bouncing in her seat for it. 02:49:21.547 --> 02:49:31.264 - So take it away, Councilor Wilts. Thank you, first of all, for your patience with me. You're good. Looking 02:49:31.264 --> 02:49:40.254 - at the list of projects for the Geobond, I see three items that are related, I think, to the jail. 02:49:40.802 --> 02:49:50.569 - therefore would be eligible perhaps to be funded through the correctional lit. I'm looking at the showers, 02:49:50.569 --> 02:50:00.428 - floor coating, the cameras I believe are for the jail and the elevator repairs. And that totals $1 million. 02:50:00.428 --> 02:50:09.374 - And if we move that to correctional lit, I realized that that's not the ideal to be spending down 02:50:09.570 --> 02:50:19.987 - that lit when we want it eventually to support something. However, it will be cheaper overall because 02:50:19.987 --> 02:50:30.199 - we won't be borrowing the money. Our bond at a level that's much closer to what we've traditionally 02:50:30.199 --> 02:50:39.390 - annually bonded for. Why don't you, before you do that, and I'm coming from a position of 02:50:39.810 --> 02:50:50.412 - We need to build a facility. And this would be taking from a balance. But I also hear what you're saying, 02:50:50.412 --> 02:51:00.613 - but let's hear from the auditor as to how the rate actually affects the taxpayer. Because when you're 02:51:00.613 --> 02:51:06.014 - looking at the amount, you can't look at that amount. 02:51:07.394 --> 02:51:19.359 - because now it's spread over six years. So I would just suggest that before you make that kind of change, 02:51:19.359 --> 02:51:31.097 - and I think it's certainly worth looking at, you find out more as to how the one-year bond rate affects 02:51:31.097 --> 02:51:35.838 - the taxpayer versus a six-year bond rate. 02:51:36.802 --> 02:51:45.510 - That affects the taxpayer. Does that make sense? I think that the more information and the more understanding 02:51:45.510 --> 02:51:53.426 - I have about that, the better. So I don't disagree with you at all. I don't see a world in which it 02:51:53.426 --> 02:52:01.421 - isn't cheaper to not bond for something. So just on the face of it, that's just kind of my crude way 02:52:01.421 --> 02:52:02.846 - of looking at it. 02:52:03.650 --> 02:52:14.834 - And so I guess what we want to also think about is how much does it impact the overall repayment costs? 02:52:14.834 --> 02:52:25.910 - I'm assuming it would be whatever our percentage rate on $1 million is. But maybe my math is a bit too 02:52:25.910 --> 02:52:33.438 - basic. If you take a million dollars out of the bond, you are saving. 02:52:33.538 --> 02:52:47.870 - the interest you would have paid on borrowing that million dollars. Right. But that million dollar interest 02:52:47.870 --> 02:52:56.894 - is not leaving the county, it's coming in. We are receding that in. 02:53:05.154 --> 02:53:13.373 - I think maybe as a suggestion. Yeah, why don't you talk to the other. That's what I was just about to 02:53:13.373 --> 02:53:21.672 - suggest is that maybe so counselor Wilts and I are the liaisons for the auditor's office. And so maybe 02:53:21.672 --> 02:53:29.810 - that's something that we can take up with the auditor as well. And this isn't finalized tonight, but 02:53:29.810 --> 02:53:33.758 - it obviously like the I hear what you're saying. 02:53:34.210 --> 02:53:43.891 - But yeah, why don't we discuss with Ms. Gregory and then come back and talk about our findings. Does 02:53:43.891 --> 02:53:53.572 - that sound okay for everybody? Okay, okay, okay. So is there, since we have this open, are there any 02:53:53.572 --> 02:53:57.214 - other further discussions on Geobots? 02:54:01.570 --> 02:54:09.367 - I appreciate all the conversation and the dialogue for both of these items tonight. So we appreciate 02:54:09.367 --> 02:54:17.241 - it. Thank you. All right. Well, that's all folks. But before that is over, I do want to actually take 02:54:17.241 --> 02:54:25.192 - a point of privilege as the chair here. We did have a member of the public address us. This individual 02:54:25.192 --> 02:54:30.750 - has been here for the entire time and got here. We moved a little fast. 02:54:31.074 --> 02:54:38.512 - in the beginning and did not get a chance to make public comment. So I will open it up since we didn't 02:54:38.512 --> 02:54:45.806 - have any takers for items not on the agenda. So to you, sir, if you want to go ahead, you'll have up 02:54:45.806 --> 02:54:53.028 - to three minutes, state your name for the record. Again, this is for items not on the agenda. And I 02:54:53.028 --> 02:54:56.350 - will also offer this to anybody online if you 02:54:56.546 --> 02:55:02.698 - didn't get a chance and you joined after the fact and wanted to make comments on items not on tonight's 02:55:02.698 --> 02:55:08.792 - agenda, you can raise your hand via Teams. So I'll go first since you are here with us. Again, you can 02:55:08.792 --> 02:55:14.944 - sign and state your name for the record and then our timers here will show that you'll have up to three 02:55:14.944 --> 02:55:20.919 - minutes. Great, thank you for being flexible with me. Good evening, President Crosley and members of 02:55:20.919 --> 02:55:24.350 - the council. My name is Andrew Deslin. I live in Fishers. 02:55:24.482 --> 02:55:33.547 - I graduated from IU in 2009 and called Bloomington my home from 2005 to 2010, 2011. Driving here today 02:55:33.547 --> 02:55:42.436 - and just walking through campus was literal therapy. So it's a fantastic place and thank you all for 02:55:42.436 --> 02:55:51.414 - serving. I served as a senior policy advisor at the Indiana State Senate from 2011 to 2025. And I now 02:55:51.414 --> 02:55:54.142 - run 46 North Benefit Advisors. 02:55:54.530 --> 02:56:01.172 - where I help local governments control one of their biggest costs, which is employee health benefits. 02:56:01.172 --> 02:56:07.813 - But I'm here today to urge you to keep pressing the State House for a real fix to Senate Enrolled Act 02:56:07.813 --> 02:56:14.325 - 1. The impacts are profound. In Hamilton County, where I live, local units are being pushed towards 02:56:14.325 --> 02:56:21.097 - referendums. School districts are seeing declining enrollment, something I never expected to see there. 02:56:21.097 --> 02:56:24.222 - And the deepest cuts from Senate Enrolled Act 1 02:56:24.770 --> 02:56:33.082 - aren't even projected to arrive until 2028. And so my concern is this, the 2027 budget session is already 02:56:33.082 --> 02:56:41.316 - shaping up to be one for the ages, to be honest. It's going to cover data centers, flock cameras, IURCs, 02:56:41.316 --> 02:56:49.549 - utility issues, your normal hot button social stuff. And SCA 270 from last year is going to force almost 02:56:49.549 --> 02:56:53.470 - 300 townships to merge within the next two years. 02:56:53.634 --> 02:57:00.156 - So Senate Enrolled Act 1 can easily get lost in the mix, and I'm here to say, don't let it. Keep sounding 02:57:00.156 --> 02:57:06.494 - the alarm bells, keep them ringing, and they need to be loud. You have a wonderful senator and a great 02:57:06.494 --> 02:57:13.077 - representative, but they can't carry this alone. It's going to take a village, this council, your schools, 02:57:13.077 --> 02:57:19.230 - your cities and towns, and the residents who depend on local services, all speaking with one voice. 02:57:20.322 --> 02:57:29.830 - I can tell you from 14 years inside that building that the legislature does respond to pressure. Put 02:57:29.830 --> 02:57:39.620 - Monroe County's numbers on the record. Keep working with the Association of Counties and meet with your 02:57:39.620 --> 02:57:46.398 - delegation before the 2027 session while bills are still being drafted. 02:57:46.626 --> 02:57:53.873 - Consider me a resource. Um, I served under four governors, the three caucus leaders, two house speakers, 02:57:53.873 --> 02:58:00.776 - a pandemic. And, um, I know where the bodies are buried in that, in that building. So, so to speak, 02:58:00.776 --> 02:58:07.816 - but you, um, as I said, you have, you have a wonderful representative, wonderful Senator. And, um, in 02:58:07.816 --> 02:58:14.718 - the meantime, um, every dollar counts. Health benefits are often a county's second largest expense. 02:58:15.234 --> 02:58:22.718 - and there are real savings to be had without cutting what employees receive. So consider me a resource 02:58:22.718 --> 02:58:30.710 - and thank you for your time. I just wanted to make a few remarks tonight. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate 02:58:30.710 --> 02:58:38.193 - that. Thank you very much. That was a good way to end. Yes. Are there any other public commenters here 02:58:38.193 --> 02:58:43.134 - in the Na'i Hill Room or virtual who did not get a chance to do so? 02:58:46.754 --> 02:58:56.129 - seeing none. We appreciate you taking the time and driving down and seeing a nice campus on the first 02:58:56.129 --> 02:59:05.595 - day of fall. Yay. That's where we're at. All right. And it is the 22nd day of September, not the 21st, 02:59:05.595 --> 02:59:10.558 - like Earth, Wind and Fire said. Okay. That means that 02:59:10.786 --> 02:59:18.495 - We are moving on, gotta do it, to our council liaison updates and comments before we adjourn for the 02:59:18.495 --> 02:59:26.356 - evening. So I'll look to council member Irison as he shakes his head no, so we'll move on. So we will, 02:59:26.356 --> 02:59:33.989 - I'll start off with council member Decker and just going down. I'm gonna pass. Okay. Council member 02:59:33.989 --> 02:59:37.118 - Wilts. Same. Okay. Council member Vidal. 02:59:37.826 --> 02:59:44.879 - I always have something to say. Yes. So partly because I live in Richland Township and because I've 02:59:44.879 --> 02:59:52.354 - been going to all those meetings about the reorganization process, I contacted the League of Women Voters 02:59:52.354 --> 02:59:59.900 - and they are doing a public forum. It will be, and I want to announce that here tonight, the press release 02:59:59.900 --> 03:00:04.414 - went out about it today. So it'll be Wednesday, September 30th. 03:00:04.546 --> 03:00:11.895 - from 5.30 to 6.30 at Monroe County Public Library in Ellitsville. It'll be a town hall on the proposed 03:00:11.895 --> 03:00:19.244 - Ellitsville Richland Township Reorganization Initiative. It's put on and hosted by the League of Women 03:00:19.244 --> 03:00:26.450 - Voters Wilmington Monroe County. They will have an IU O'Neill School faculty member and an IU Maurer 03:00:26.450 --> 03:00:32.158 - School representative there as well. So the public is invited to pose questions 03:00:32.482 --> 03:00:38.783 - If you'll give me a minute, I'll come back to that what that address is. I didn't write that part down 03:00:38.783 --> 03:00:45.083 - because it came out later. But in the meantime, I'll try to fill the gap with or maybe I can just come 03:00:45.083 --> 03:00:51.445 - back. I have other things to say. I could either I need to look for something and look at my list both. 03:00:51.445 --> 03:00:58.174 - So if you want to just I'd say go ahead and wrap it up. I think that, yeah, hold on just a second right here. 03:00:58.850 --> 03:01:10.995 - So questions in advance can be sent to this email address, which is league, L-E-A-G-U-E, at lwv-bmc.org. 03:01:10.995 --> 03:01:23.024 - And I'll repeat that. It's league at lwv-bmc.org. And those would be questions in advance for this town 03:01:23.024 --> 03:01:27.998 - hall for the proposed reorganization plan. 03:01:28.994 --> 03:01:36.821 - So that's all for that. I've been doing numerous things in the community, whether it's a fall festival, 03:01:36.821 --> 03:01:44.423 - whether it's a 9-11 ceremony, whether it's a native plant sale, whether it's a Lake Monroe Day, many 03:01:44.423 --> 03:01:52.251 - of these with colleagues here sitting with me today, whether it's Amplify, which three of us here today 03:01:52.251 --> 03:01:58.046 - did that, or did that together, and the MUST. I was there for the MUST also. 03:01:58.370 --> 03:02:05.733 - Um, and I've enjoyed every bit of it. I just really think it's good for me to, um, have lots of input 03:02:05.733 --> 03:02:13.312 - or lots of information to make decisions. And I enjoy all of it. That's it. Thank you. Counselor Fiddle. 03:02:13.312 --> 03:02:20.530 - Um, the only other thing that I would say is I really appreciated the comment that we just got from 03:02:20.530 --> 03:02:25.150 - the public, um, member of the public because it kind of brought 03:02:25.250 --> 03:02:31.848 - back a conversation that we have with the Amplify group where we had city and county partners alike 03:02:31.848 --> 03:02:38.512 - and other entities as well. And we had a really good conversation, especially with the Monroe County 03:02:38.512 --> 03:02:45.374 - School Corporation, the superintendent, Dr. Winston and staff were there. And I think what really drove 03:02:45.374 --> 03:02:52.830 - home to me because they are also under SEA-1 constraints and they have also seen, you know, enrollment declines. 03:02:53.186 --> 03:03:03.560 - for various reasons, people moving out. The gap of those that have children that are here, these folks 03:03:03.560 --> 03:03:13.633 - are moving out. And our big base that we have are some of our retirees. So it gave me a lot of food 03:03:13.633 --> 03:03:14.942 - for thought. 03:03:15.586 --> 03:03:22.417 - But one thing that Dr. Winston said that really kind of stuck out is that we also have to make sure 03:03:22.417 --> 03:03:29.864 - and be mindful of the fact that they are also a big key component in our community as well. I know sometimes 03:03:29.864 --> 03:03:36.832 - we also think of IU Health, IU, Cook, some of the other pharmaceutical companies, as well as big time 03:03:36.832 --> 03:03:43.390 - employers. But if we don't have these teachers and the support staff in our school corporation, 03:03:43.746 --> 03:03:50.453 - to be here, then we don't have anything. And right now, we have to help ourselves in light of some of 03:03:50.453 --> 03:03:57.029 - the things that we are going through. So one of the conversations that we have to think about is we 03:03:57.029 --> 03:04:03.802 - have to make sure that we are trying, in addition to putting that pressure on our state lawmakers. And 03:04:03.802 --> 03:04:10.509 - I agree, and I think something that came up from that conversation was trying to organize a town hall 03:04:10.509 --> 03:04:13.534 - as such where the key players, the townships, 03:04:13.826 --> 03:04:19.991 - school corporations, everybody can come together and educate the public because there's so many things 03:04:19.991 --> 03:04:26.036 - that we see that are happening on a daily basis, such as what was mentioned earlier, that we kind of 03:04:26.036 --> 03:04:32.560 - forget about SEA-1. It's like squirrel. Like, let's throw this in the mix. Let's throw a gas tax suspension. 03:04:32.560 --> 03:04:38.725 - Let's throw all of these things. But the big shiny picture is kind of moving away from everything, and 03:04:38.725 --> 03:04:39.742 - we're not really 03:04:40.450 --> 03:04:47.578 - keeping that pressure. So I appreciate, you know, again, the public comments are just making sure that 03:04:47.578 --> 03:04:54.498 - we are doing our due diligence as electeds to make sure that we are helping out as much as possible 03:04:54.498 --> 03:05:01.626 - because yeah, listening to the Township trustees speak very passionately on Friday about how they will 03:05:01.626 --> 03:05:07.646 - continue to hurt and will hurt and who's going to absorb all of that. It is us. And so 03:05:07.778 --> 03:05:14.661 - We have to do what we need to do to make sure that we are really doing it because the state is forcing 03:05:14.661 --> 03:05:21.678 - us to do it. But we also need to apply that pressure back at them. So I appreciate that. The other light 03:05:21.678 --> 03:05:28.494 - thing that I will say, and then we can adjourn for the evening, is that I am wearing sorority colors, 03:05:28.494 --> 03:05:35.510 - pink and green. And so if you don't know, I'm a proud member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated, 03:05:35.510 --> 03:05:36.446 - historically. 03:05:36.738 --> 03:05:45.567 - Black Sorority First was founded in 1908 at the Howard University, the other bison school. And so that 03:05:45.567 --> 03:05:53.710 - being said, one of our very own alumna, who is from, I think, in the Kelly School of Business, 03:05:53.710 --> 03:06:02.110 - Justice Kelly, actually won Miss USA. And she was a student here, graduated, her and her husband. 03:06:02.338 --> 03:06:08.558 - and she now resides in the state of Virginia. And she is Miss USA, and she is moving on to, I think, 03:06:08.558 --> 03:06:14.839 - Miss Universe. So I just wanted to end on a positive note. Congratulations to her for doing something 03:06:14.839 --> 03:06:21.612 - huge and major. That is a huge accomplishment. But again, apply that pressure when it's needed and necessary. 03:06:21.612 --> 03:06:26.046 - And without that, nothing else being said, we are adjourned. Thank you.