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- Well, it's the witching hour, so I will call the meeting of the Monroe County Capital Improvement Board

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- of February 18th, 2026 at 3 p.m. to order. I wanna make a brief announcement that good news and bad

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- news about Mr. Baer. Good news is he got sworn in as a member of the board. The bad news is is that

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- by state statute, if you attend two meetings remotely,

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- you cannot participate or vote in another meeting until you attend in person. So this being the third

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- meeting that Mr. Baer is attending consecutively remotely. When we had our special meeting on our January

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- meeting, he cannot participate in our meeting today, nor can he vote in our meeting today. However,

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- when we get to comments from the public, he's allowed to participate as a member of the public. So when

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- we get to comments from the public, I will specifically ask him if anything has not yet been said in

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- this meeting that he would like to say to all of us. So with that, and you can't count towards a quorum,

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- not that we, you know, we've got a quorum, so we can't even call his name today. So I see that he's

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- there, at least I see JB and I assume that's Mr. Baer.

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- So I will ask Jace to take the role. John Weichart. Present. Doug Bruce. Here. Jim Silverstein. Here.

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- Joyce Pulling. Here. Adam Teese. Here. Galen Cassidy. Here. Okay, thank you. Item number two is approval

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- of consent agenda, which includes the minutes of our January 21st meeting, the minutes of our February

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- 5th meeting, our claims, and the financial report. And if we could have a motion to approve that,

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- So we have a motion for approval. Is there a second? Second. It's been seconded. So are there any questions

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- or discussion or comments about the minutes or the claims or the financial report? OK, seeing and hearing

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- none, item number three, Treasurer's Report. Oh, yeah, we better vote on it, hadn't we? OK, so why don't

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- we vote on it? John Weichart? Yes. Doug Bruce? Yes. Jim Soberstein? Yes. Joyce Polling? Yes. Adam Tease?

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- Yes. Galen Cassidy? Yes. OK, thank you.

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- Now, on to the Treasurer's Report. Mr. Silberstein, do you have any report you'd like to make? Jeff

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- Underwood has spent a lot of time bringing me up to speed on numbers. And for my first Treasurer's Report,

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- I have to say I have no report. OK. I would say that's an excellent job by both of you then. Very good,

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- very good. Item number four, President's Report. I wanted to report to you that I have approved a change

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- order for a sanitary extension due to unforeseen

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- elevation in the amount of $23,479. Approved that yesterday. The sanitary extension was an unforeseen

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- condition in the sanitary line pipe elevation that was exposed to meet IDEM's minimum regulation slope.

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- An additional 20 feet of pipe section had to be replaced, and that's why we have this additional cost

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- of $23,479.

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- So I approved that with the authority to approve such change orders under $25,000. And I think we have,

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- Deb, I think we have now a cumulative running total for the log that we wanted to show.

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- So we will forward this to all of you when the meeting's over, but we will keep a running total for

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- you, a log of these contingency change orders. And as you can see, we are now a contingency use to date

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- of 634, 658, which represents 26% of the contingency budget. I wanted to mention that we only had one

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- this month.

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- mid-February, obviously already, and we expected if we would have contingency change orders related

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- to the construction project that we would have had as we were coming up out of the ground. So I can't

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- anticipate that we'll never have another one, but we certainly are having fewer, and we're dealing with

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- fewer issues, fewer unforeseen circumstances as we move forward. So happy to answer any questions that

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- you might have.

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- about today's, the one I mentioned today for $23,479 or for the running total. All right, seeing none.

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- Construction update, Weddle Brothers, Mr. Sherry. Thank you, John. Andrew Sherry, project manager with

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- Weddle Brothers. Share my screen.

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- Okay, so a few things to talk about today in the presentation. I wanted to run through some safety,

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- the connector details as far as what was done over the last few weeks with the bridge connector that

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- we've got done, construction progress, upcoming activities, and then side note with the building information

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- modeling as we progress into the interior side of the building and all the systems and everything that

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- we're trying to do, just show the background and the pre-planning that's going into that level of detail.

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- From a safety standpoint, so we currently have over five separate contractors on site. They may have

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- third parties involved. We're averaging around 30 to 40 employees every day on site. That could have

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- an influx whenever we have concrete pours or different activities. This will continue to increase as

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- we start additional scope and activities. So as we free up more masonry work, we're free up more interior

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- work. Those crews will continue to grow in size. We've had over 150 participants in safety orientation.

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- That's employees and visitors to the job site.

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- We're working in all areas of the project site. So the south lot, the roof, the elevated decks, we have

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- concrete bores going everywhere, subgrade prep and underground utilities. We are all over the project

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- site. A lot of planning, a lot of logistics, a lot of safety mindset that's went into this. So the other

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- day we were walking the job site and just in the main exhibit hall we had seven pieces of heavy equipment,

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- excavators, skid steers, boom lifts,

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- So again, we're pulling all these employees into approximately 30,000 square feet of an area, doing

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- all these different activities. And again, no safety incidents to report. Just great kudos to the whole

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- team that's out there, the safety mindset. We start off every day with a daily hazard analysis. Not

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- only our careers, but we require all of our subcontractors to do that.

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- We document that and save that. So they run through what they're gonna do that day. What are potential

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- hazards and how can you eliminate those potential hazards? So again, I think that it's had a great turnout.

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- It's very tight project site, but great success. So at any time there are around 15 to 18 pieces of

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- heavy equipment on the job site. This does not include the days that we have concrete trucks, vehicle

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- job trucks, or additional vehicles, testing agencies, things like that. So with two main entrances to

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- the job site,

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- That's a pretty substantial feat. Here are a few photos I just wanted to include. In the top left picture

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- you can see just around the sanitary line and the deep foundations. On the south side of the project

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- there are four large excavators here with our material lay down. On the right hand side this is some

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- of the bedrock that we did whenever we exposed the existing sanitary line.

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- And then on the bottom left, it's hard to see, but that's the seven to eight pieces of heavy equipment

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- where we're doing our slab on grade sequence one and sequence two. So trenches are open. The utilities

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- are stepped up through the ground. There's just a lot of different moving parts and pieces. Connector

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- details. This was a huge milestone for the project. We had around 12 working days, not including weekends.

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- The crews were able to complete structural steel erection, structural steel detailing, including all

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- welding, the adjustments.

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- Roof and floor decking concrete pouring and final fall protection cables and posts so If anybody remembers

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- the snowstorm that we had that was the day that we planned on doing our closure was that Sunday night

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- We had to work with the limited travel restrictions with crews out of Indianapolis for our barricades

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- and things like that We ended up closing college down on Tuesday, and we still hit our same end date

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- that we showed in our schedule of June of 2025 Again that was a

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- A great feat, a lot of pre-planning, a lot of long days for the crews out there. Wednesday that we started.

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- Wednesday that we started, I think, that we started, I think, 22 or 22. And that's the day that they

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- set the columns. And then every connection on the bridge out there had about 60 inches of welds. So

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- not only after that was erected, both of together, but the welding and all the detailing that went into

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- that, again, just a great feat.

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- would like to note that city engineering did note that over the entirety of our closure that we had

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- no complaints. So that was a great milestone there too. We didn't know what to expect. There was a lot

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- of communications, a lot of planning that went into that. While we had the road closed, we were calling

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- them on a constant basis and saying, hey, you know, we have this, especially with the snow. We had city

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- crews with the plows and stuff help us whenever we went to

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- to close the road down, they plowed, they oversalted the roadways. There was just a lot of help. So

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- here are a few pictures on the left hand side here, you'll see the crane set up right in the middle

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- of college, about 120, 130 feet high at that point. In the middle picture, you'll see what it looks

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- like up there prior to them pouring the floor. So that's looking from the east towards the west. And

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- then the concrete pump on the right hand side whenever the day that they pumped that Thursday, the day

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- before we opened up.

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- Construction progress, so structural steel update. All structural steel around the main exhibit hall

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- has been set besides the back of house area. So the kitchen, the mechanical spaces, that is what we're

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- calling sequence seven. That follows the sanitary line and all that south work. So crews are now working

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- on final detailing, the clips, welds, the pour stops. So after they erect that, they have to put pour

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- stop down, all the decking so we can pour the concrete out. The low roof and high roof decking has started

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- on the building, including the exterior patio.

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- On this photo in the bottom, you can see the patio area that has been decked. And then this picture

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- was from last week. They're actually flying through on roof decking. We're really hoping to start putting

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- roofing material on the project within the next three weeks. If we remember, the slide on grade had

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- five total sequences. So sequence one has been poured. Sequence two is scheduled to be poured tomorrow.

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- That means that the whole eastern half of the project will be poured in concrete.

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- and have a floor. And then sequences three through five will be between now and April. So one thing

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- I wanted to note on the slide lawn grade preparation. So we see the underground, we talk about

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- the underground and stone and then pouring concrete, but here are just a few activities that we have

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- to do. So we get in and install our deep utilities in Backville.

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- Then we come in, put the geogrid down in all of our compacted stone, roll that in with heavy equipment,

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- install all of our shallow utilities and backfill, so all of our conduits, things like that. Then we

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- fully encapsulate under slab with a vapor barrier. We tie rebar, place forms along the perimeter, and

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- then isolate every column. So every column out there is isolated from the actual pour itself. And then

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- we pour the concrete. And then the next day, they come in and saw cut. So there's a lot that goes into

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- that process. Here are a few pictures.

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- On the top left, you can see the Northeast restroom. And then, so that's our deeper rough ends. On the

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- right-hand side, this is after we placed the geogrid and the stone, so they're running some of our conduits

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- for our floor boxes. On the bottom left, it's hard to see, but that's all the rebar. So the rebar and

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- the slab is on baskets. It's six inches on center both ways. And then again, our formwork. And then

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- the bottom right is the sequence one pour.

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- The building envelope masonry work has started with the brick work starting this week along registers

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- lot on the southeast side of the project. This picture was from last week is probably six foot tall.

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- I think right now they're 22 ish somewhere in there. Exterior column wraps are starting today.

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- So our framing, sheathing and exterior wall rough ends, which is electrical and plumbing are taking

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- place. Our roof deck continues with roofing installation starting again in approximately three weeks.

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- Interior work with the slab pours, we're able to jump on the interior walls too. So this picture was

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- taken right after lunch this morning. This is the first course of the south corridor on the interior

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- side. Interior masonry walls are starting today. We'll follow our slab progression, which is

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- a counterclockwise orientation. Our in-wall rough-in, so as they lay these masonry walls, mechanical

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- and electrical and plumbing is starting also. So they build up, they rough that in. And then door frames

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- are being installed today also.

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- All doors, frames, and hardware are on this week, and we have door frames starting today in these walls.

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- Our exterior facade, so our masonry work is to be completed at the southeast side of the project, and

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- then we'll continue up to each elevation. So this is the southeast side looking north. The left-hand

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- side there is the brick that we expect to be done within the next two weeks, and then those column wraps

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- right there are what are starting today.

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- We will also be placing blocking and prep work around all of the curtain wall systems. We expect the

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- curtain wall systems to be on site in April. We'll start getting everything installed there. And then

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- exterior framing will progress on the east side and then go to the north elevations for our brick and

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- our column ramps. So building information modeling, BIM, as we like to call it. Again, this is something

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- that it's 3D rendering that all systems go into the building

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- They model this. This allows us to identify clashes where different systems may hit, and then change

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- our plans and alter the plan for the system. So again, this allows for clashes to be identified early

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- in the process prior to us coming in, installing these, and then saying, hey, back to the drawing board.

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- What do we need to do? After areas are designed virtually in BIM and issues are resolved, areas are

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- signed off for prefabrication. We have the whole underslab signed off.

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- These are being prefabricated in shops. A lot of this work is taking place in the south lay down lot,

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- south of the hotel here. But they create these puzzle pieces in large sections, bring those over, and

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- then install exactly to how this was modeled. So it helps enhance our schedule. We currently have duct

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- work, overhead piping, electrical runs, and other scopes being built off site in order to deliver and

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- install when the project is ready. Again, another thing that we do in this model is we take into account

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- even down to the thickness of the insulation. So the pipe insulation, the ductwork insulation, the overall

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- end user maintenance standpoint, can people get in these cable trays and access it. So all that detail

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- goes in here. Again, build that and then build it inside. This picture here.

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- is basically if you took a cut at the roof line above the kitchen in the back of house, that is all

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- the existing or that is all the new systems and equipment that will actually be installed.

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- So fire protection, cable trays, low voltage, duct work, anything that you can think of that is everything

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- that will be above the ceiling in the back of house. This next picture is the high roof. So above the

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- exhibit hall in this, you'll also see all the long span trusses. So we get down to the level of detail for

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- duct work to go in the web spacing of those long spans that are out there, how everything ties together,

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- how do you insulate it. So again, this is just a neat picture to see all those systems in their entirety.

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- I think better than the BIM model. We want to go ahead and talk about our hard hat update video. I was

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- able to co-star with Mr. John Whitecard in. He got a lot of work done on site that day. So we'll see

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- how this one plays out. Co-star. Co-star.

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- Here we are again. I've taken a little break from all the work I've been doing here on site and we're

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- going to take another tour and see what's been happening.

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- Here we are again, I've taken a little break from all the work I've been doing here on site. And we're

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- gonna take another tour and see what's been happening. Hello again, John Weichert, president of the

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- Capitol Improvement Board. I'm here at the construction site for our expansion project. Amazed at all

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- the progress that's been made since our last hard hat edition.

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- Today's actually the last full day of the closure of College Avenue, and we're excited about that. I'm

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- under the bridge that connects the two buildings. I'm looking for Andrew Sherry from Weller Brothers.

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- He's going to join me today. Oh, Andrew, there you are. What are you doing up there? Waiting on you

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- to come see the best view in town, John. Well, come on down and tell me what's been going on. We can do that.

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- Andrew, the sky bridge will probably be the most identifiable project activity everyone can see. And

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- it is such an exciting new downtown feature. So tell me about what we are seeing and what is happening

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- here. Yes, so as you can see in the last week, week and a half, there's been a lot of work that took

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- place here between the structural steel, all the concrete work, all the prep that had to go into this

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- for this closure to hit these days that we've been planning for. We've got the existing floor that we

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- have to match.

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- We've got the new concrete. We've got the ramps. As you can see here at the top of all this structural

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- steel at these intersecting points, we've got 60 inches of weld. So a ton of detailing that people may

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- not think about, but there's a lot of work that goes into this as we progress and try to get to the

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- final product. You know, and symbolically, Andrew, we've talked about this at the bridge, but it's literally

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- a bridge between the past and the future. As we look across at the current convention center and look

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- at this new construction, this is not really a break from the past. It's a connection.

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- Absolutely. Obviously, this building, the expansion behind us is a monumental piece. But another big

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- piece of that is matching the historical aspect of the existing building. Progressing with our slab

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- here, we've got our nice hole covers to protect our floor boxes. Because once we get this next slab

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- poured, we're going to bring a bunch of scissor lifts in here and start detailing all this decking,

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- all these long-span tresses. Because right now, there's a ton of other members to be tied in up there.

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- They'll remove all this temporary bracing and such.

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- our existing, our new utilities existing in the slab, we want to protect them. Yeah. Not breaking things.

00:19:29.123 --> 00:19:34.204
- But again, our first section of the dance floor. So. Well, that's good. Yeah. And all this, all these

00:19:34.204 --> 00:19:39.336
- stones, what we paid extra for, right? Actually, this step was the base contract. The step underneath,

00:19:39.336 --> 00:19:44.367
- that's what we paid extra for. Oh, it tore you down? Yeah. Yeah. So basically, you had a foot of the

00:19:44.367 --> 00:19:49.349
- stuff that you see right now on the geogrid. And you'll be able to see it over here whenever we get

00:19:49.349 --> 00:19:53.534
- into these trenches. But the step right underneath that is what they wanted to fix.

00:19:53.890 --> 00:20:01.204
- So yes, a lot of stone. Thank you. Oh, look at all of this. Yes, sir. Quite a bit of masonry work already.

00:20:01.204 --> 00:20:08.039
- Yeah, last time we walked this a few days ago, we were five or six foot high. You see the work that

00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:14.943
- this group can do in three days. That's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah. Well, last time I was here, I

00:20:14.943 --> 00:20:20.958
- offered to be a hod carrier and they didn't take me up on it, but I'm glad I didn't get

00:20:21.090 --> 00:20:26.160
- hired for that. As soon as they heard that, they started flying through it. They worked more quickly

00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:31.531
- because all they needed was my help, right? Yeah. Well, this is very, very impressive. Yeah. And actually,

00:20:31.531 --> 00:20:36.752
- again, I think we talked about it before, but next week, we're looking at next Wednesday, they're going

00:20:36.752 --> 00:20:41.972
- to come in here and lay out. But this will be our interior wall. It dives into the center line of these

00:20:41.972 --> 00:20:46.942
- columns here. So it follows this saw cut joint. We'll have a little frame set in here, everything.

00:20:48.034 --> 00:20:52.943
- the door friends of the project in your wins that it's just it's just amazing so you know we're out

00:20:52.943 --> 00:20:57.950
- here originally and we were this was pretty much just a level ground and you describe these things to

00:20:57.950 --> 00:20:58.686
- me it was hard

00:20:59.170 --> 00:21:03.783
- It's hard for me to visualize it. We're in here now and it's happening. It's just amazing to look at.

00:21:03.783 --> 00:21:08.305
- Yeah, so when will the masonry work take place? And when will they come out and put the brick down?

00:21:08.305 --> 00:21:12.917
- And how's that fit into all the scheduling? Yeah, so we're looking at having like this wall down here

00:21:12.917 --> 00:21:17.665
- on the south side of the project done next Wednesday. At that point, they'll jump in and bring the block

00:21:17.665 --> 00:21:22.278
- guys in, have this interior wall done, and then immediately the exterior brick, red brick starts. And

00:21:22.278 --> 00:21:25.534
- there'll be a couple of weeks' worth of work for them to face that all.

00:21:25.730 --> 00:21:30.779
- So here's one of the main entrances. And where's the reception area going to be right here? Yeah, the

00:21:30.779 --> 00:21:35.828
- reception desk will be right here. Whenever you walk in the project or the building at the end of it,

00:21:35.828 --> 00:21:40.828
- we'll have a main entrance over here and a main entrance at that corner. So you'll come in. There'll

00:21:40.828 --> 00:21:45.778
- be a vestibule here, double set of doors, lights. You open the doors, and here's your desk. So this

00:21:45.778 --> 00:21:50.827
- is the Northeast entrance here. Yes, sir. And you're coming right in off of Walnut Street, third. And

00:21:50.827 --> 00:21:55.134
- here's the reception area. Yep. Yep. And then you have open corridors, your restrooms.

00:21:55.330 --> 00:22:00.635
- And then again, right now, we can see this beautiful exhibit hall. Basically, this column line in is

00:22:00.635 --> 00:22:05.887
- all exhibit hall, so you'll have your walls all the way to deck, and you'll have various doors that

00:22:05.887 --> 00:22:11.244
- you can go into that. We're coming around from the reception area, and this is the exhibit hall. Yes.

00:22:11.244 --> 00:22:16.653
- So again, you'll have sets of doors here, and then you'll come in. This column line here is the break,

00:22:16.653 --> 00:22:20.382
- so you'll have corridor, and then you come into the exhibit hall here.

00:22:21.282 --> 00:22:27.371
- The exhibit hall, again, we're approximately 30,000 square feet of finished space, wide open ceiling

00:22:27.371 --> 00:22:33.461
- space. We'll have foldable partition walls, so this could be an open area, basketball courts, things

00:22:33.461 --> 00:22:39.490
- like that. Or you can have different rooms with our folding partitions that come out. You know, and

00:22:39.490 --> 00:22:45.278
- I didn't realize how large an open space it could be until you're standing here within it. Yes.

00:22:45.442 --> 00:22:50.541
- This is a huge, huge area. Yeah. I mean, these long span trusses that we talked about for a long time,

00:22:50.541 --> 00:22:55.641
- we're able to accommodate that load. We've actually got decking. We're starting decking right now. And

00:22:55.641 --> 00:23:00.789
- I say we, but Indy Steel, All Met, the steel iron workers are starting decking over there. But our goal

00:23:00.789 --> 00:23:05.790
- is to start doing all the roof decking over this. We have roofing material in the lot. As soon as we

00:23:05.790 --> 00:23:10.740
- get this decking down, we're going to put a roof on it. And again, our goal is to get this building

00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:14.206
- enclosed. Yeah. I'm sorry, it's not just athletic events we can have.

00:23:14.434 --> 00:23:20.330
- 1,400 people to sit down, dinner in the city, or concerts or lectures, and get a couple thousand people

00:23:20.330 --> 00:23:26.113
- in Harry Eaton's. That's a great space. It'll be a great space. So Andrew, next time we're here, what

00:23:26.113 --> 00:23:31.839
- are we going to see next time? I think that's a loaded question. We're going to see a lot. But we'll

00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:37.791
- see interior walls here, our masonry walls we talked about earlier. We're hoping to see interior framing

00:23:37.791 --> 00:23:42.270
- from floor to deck. We'll have decking places on all of our elevated surfaces.

00:23:42.626 --> 00:23:48.499
- and then slab on grade, we'll see a lot. Great, great. Well, Andrew, thank you for taking time out of

00:23:48.499 --> 00:23:54.372
- your busy schedule for the other tour. And we look forward to seeing all of you for the next Hard Hat

00:23:54.372 --> 00:24:00.129
- Edition. Someday we can see volleyball tournaments taking place in this space where we're standing.

00:24:00.129 --> 00:24:05.887
- We're going to play Devils, me and you, versus we've got to find two people. Yeah, maybe an Oval 75

00:24:05.887 --> 00:24:07.902
- league of some kind. RF. Yeah, OK.

00:24:14.882 --> 00:24:22.743
- For anybody who was worried about safety, I didn't even have the keys to that piece of equipment. So

00:24:22.743 --> 00:24:30.525
- don't be concerned. Well, yeah, I ask that they knew better. Okay, thank you, Andrew. Any questions

00:24:30.525 --> 00:24:37.374
- for Andrew about the construction update? All right, working group updates, wayfinding.

00:24:42.306 --> 00:24:47.717
- Thank you. Eddie Layton, which is an associate. And I have Karen Gilmore with me as well. She's our

00:24:47.717 --> 00:24:53.128
- graphic designer who's working on this. So we wanted to come to the CIB today. We're kind of at the

00:24:53.128 --> 00:24:58.972
- end of our design concept phase. And so we want to share progress. And then at the end of our presentation,

00:24:58.972 --> 00:25:04.491
- ask for approval of that design concept. So like any good design project, we start with goals. And so

00:25:04.491 --> 00:25:10.281
- these goals are not too dissimilar to the goals for the building design, but have a specific angle towards

00:25:10.281 --> 00:25:11.742
- the signage and wayfinding

00:25:11.842 --> 00:25:18.554
- Things like that should be simple and not overly complex, given visitors coming to the convention center,

00:25:18.554 --> 00:25:25.140
- be able to find a way around easily. Want to work with the building, so be timeless. Include the colors

00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:31.599
- from the building and that go with the building. Want to be memorable and unique, of course. Durable,

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:36.158
- so Talisha and her team don't have to maintain it and worry about that.

00:25:36.258 --> 00:25:41.394
- flexible and adaptable. This space is going to be very many different things to different people. And

00:25:41.394 --> 00:25:46.429
- so the signage and wayfinding needs to work with all of that. I want to leverage technology as much

00:25:46.429 --> 00:25:51.867
- as possible to new building. And we wanted to make that exciting. I want to be consistent with the branding

00:25:51.867 --> 00:25:57.103
- and all the work that was done to create some of those graphics. It should make sense that the building

00:25:57.103 --> 00:26:02.340
- should reflect that. And we do know we're, just as we were talking about in the video, we're connecting

00:26:02.340 --> 00:26:04.958
- to the existing building. We need to make sure that

00:26:05.186 --> 00:26:12.224
- The signage is replaced in this building. The package can be complementary. But even if the decision

00:26:12.224 --> 00:26:19.541
- is to utilize existing signage, the new items make sense as well. So we look at the schedule. We started

00:26:19.541 --> 00:26:26.788
- back in November with our design concept work. And so we've been through the last couple of months with

00:26:26.788 --> 00:26:34.174
- the way finding committee to refine the design. So we're here today in February to ask for that approval.

00:26:34.274 --> 00:26:39.954
- the next line item under that, and the key milestones is the variance approval. Similar to the building

00:26:39.954 --> 00:26:45.963
- where the UDO was, we needed some variances to meet the UDO, because the UDO is not written around convention

00:26:45.963 --> 00:26:51.479
- centers. You don't have 50 different convention centers in town, but you have one. And so similarly,

00:26:51.479 --> 00:26:56.941
- the UDO signage requirements for our zoning, there's just, we don't meet them all the requirements,

00:26:56.941 --> 00:27:02.458
- or there's things that we'd like to do that are not included in the UDO. So we've had a meeting with

00:27:02.458 --> 00:27:03.550
- Jackie at the city,

00:27:03.842 --> 00:27:10.105
- have reviewed kind of what we're thinking and talked through that process. So the current plan for that

00:27:10.105 --> 00:27:16.307
- is that we will be submitting to appear in the March hearing, which means we need to submit at the end

00:27:16.307 --> 00:27:22.390
- of February, which we've intentionally left some time there in the schedule as we're working towards

00:27:22.390 --> 00:27:28.652
- the May completion schedule for the construction drawings. If we need to push to the April PZA hearing,

00:27:28.652 --> 00:27:33.470
- we have time to do that, but we'd like to leave that option open at this point.

00:27:36.482 --> 00:27:41.662
- So one of the big things that we're getting into much more detail as we work towards the construction

00:27:41.662 --> 00:27:46.842
- drawing portion of the project is the actual locations. We need to start with locations to be able to

00:27:46.842 --> 00:27:51.971
- pick the types of signs, but we're going to get much more detail into the specific locations. I just

00:27:51.971 --> 00:27:57.100
- wanted to share with the group kind of what we're thinking in terms of general areas. So we're going

00:27:57.100 --> 00:28:02.381
- to start outside, and I will zoom in because I realize that's kind of small on the big screen. So we're

00:28:02.381 --> 00:28:05.022
- looking at, start maybe on the west side of campus,

00:28:05.442 --> 00:28:11.636
- The existing building, the existing parking lots, there's our existing signage in many of the parking

00:28:11.636 --> 00:28:17.891
- lots already that we'd want to look at replacing some directional signage. We want to look at, I mean,

00:28:17.891 --> 00:28:24.025
- in the College Avenue, replacing the existing ground-mounted message sign, which we'll see what that

00:28:24.025 --> 00:28:30.462
- looks like, as well as the, looking at the building sign on this building. We've talked about just taking

00:28:30.462 --> 00:28:33.438
- that sign off and leaving the Graham Auto Sales,

00:28:33.986 --> 00:28:39.564
- piece there is kind of like an homage to the past of the building. We also acknowledge that if you're

00:28:39.564 --> 00:28:45.088
- coming to this campus for the first time and parking in the main parking lot, you may not know where

00:28:45.088 --> 00:28:50.611
- the entry is. It's not immediately obvious from back there, and so we might want to add some signage

00:28:50.611 --> 00:28:56.244
- to the backside of the building. The big thing, though, is along College Avenue, knowing where to turn

00:28:56.244 --> 00:28:57.502
- into the parking area,

00:28:57.602 --> 00:29:03.531
- One of the requirements from our building variances was that we needed a sign at the loading dock entry

00:29:03.531 --> 00:29:09.232
- to alert pedestrians to truck traffic and that sort of thing, but also just for trucks to know this

00:29:09.232 --> 00:29:14.990
- is where you turn in. The expansion is going to have signage. Obviously, we've talked about building

00:29:14.990 --> 00:29:20.862
- signage on the corners of the entries, wayfinding signage for people walking and driving around campus

00:29:20.862 --> 00:29:23.998
- and where parking can be found and that sort of thing.

00:29:25.090 --> 00:29:31.430
- So as I mentioned, we're going to get into much more detail on those locations as we determine quantities

00:29:31.430 --> 00:29:37.649
- of signs and the exact messaging of those. So right now, we're just looking at types. The same exercise

00:29:37.649 --> 00:29:43.869
- is going on inside. Entries into the exhibit hall rooms, a directory signage at the entry is important,

00:29:43.869 --> 00:29:50.029
- a restroom signage. But all the questions that Talisha and Lisa and her team get asked, where is this?

00:29:50.029 --> 00:29:54.814
- Where is that? We want to make sure the signage is helping as much as possible.

00:29:55.234 --> 00:30:00.040
- There's not always someone there to answer those questions. So as I mentioned, one of our exercises,

00:30:00.040 --> 00:30:04.940
- we're working with the committee to schedule a meeting probably late April or early May to really walk

00:30:04.940 --> 00:30:09.698
- through every location there's going to be a sign. What is it going to say? Which of our sign types

00:30:09.698 --> 00:30:14.504
- is it going to be? Which I'll share in a second. And that will help with determining the quantities,

00:30:14.504 --> 00:30:19.262
- which is what the big package will look at. And one of the things we're looking at as well in terms

00:30:19.618 --> 00:30:26.220
- Phasing is all the signage done at once, is it done in groupings and alternate amounts so we can work

00:30:26.220 --> 00:30:32.758
- that out from budget perspective. Looking at upstairs as well, of course, both floors are important.

00:30:32.758 --> 00:30:39.361
- So then really the item I wanted to share with this group and get the approval for is the concept. So

00:30:39.361 --> 00:30:46.287
- we wanted to start with what was already given to us from the branding package, which was a great starting

00:30:46.287 --> 00:30:47.646
- point. The building,

00:30:47.842 --> 00:30:54.547
- The logo, the font, the color scheme, it wanted to be consistent with all of the information that Bloomington

00:30:54.547 --> 00:31:00.825
- Convention Center is using to sell the space. So when a customer is coming, they've already seen these

00:31:00.825 --> 00:31:06.494
- colors, they've already seen the logos, and it's all very, you know, cohesive to the design.

00:31:08.386 --> 00:31:14.417
- So we went even as far as the angle. That was a very important design concept, the roof line of the

00:31:14.417 --> 00:31:20.750
- building. And so that angle finds itself in the signage. So this is all of the exterior signage concepts

00:31:20.750 --> 00:31:26.841
- we're looking at for different types of signs. Starting at the left, these signs would be the things

00:31:26.841 --> 00:31:33.173
- you would find along College Avenue, for example, leading you into the parking lot or pointing out where

00:31:33.173 --> 00:31:34.078
- entrances are.

00:31:34.210 --> 00:31:40.343
- The blue line here, so one of the variances we need to request is for signs taller than 48 inches, and

00:31:40.343 --> 00:31:46.475
- that's one of the requirements in the EDO that we don't meet currently. So this would be a metal sign,

00:31:46.475 --> 00:31:52.608
- a vertical blade sign on a stone plinth. In the parking lot, there's already existing signage attached

00:31:52.608 --> 00:31:58.740
- to many of the light poles for parking. And one of the things that talking to a general group is that,

00:31:58.740 --> 00:32:01.598
- you know, maybe that's one way to designate the

00:32:02.274 --> 00:32:08.727
- The convention center parking versus hotel parking, perhaps, just with a different sign color or type,

00:32:08.727 --> 00:32:15.054
- that sort of thing. The sign here in the center, that would be the replacement for the message sign.

00:32:15.054 --> 00:32:21.632
- And being able to go to a digital sign would help with ease of changing, but messaging, of course, being

00:32:21.632 --> 00:32:26.142
- able to do more than one thing at a time. There's multiple groups here.

00:32:26.402 --> 00:32:33.262
- Obviously, there will be restrictions on how fast that can change from a distraction point of view.

00:32:33.262 --> 00:32:40.533
- That's a requirement we'll have to face. A similar materiality and form. And then on the building itself,

00:32:40.533 --> 00:32:47.598
- we had had a placeholder in the building design for a sign above the doors. And so just using the logo

00:32:47.598 --> 00:32:53.086
- from the type font, typeface from the logo for that there seemed to make sense.

00:32:55.586 --> 00:33:01.672
- So, and all the exterior signs were planning on being aluminum, painted aluminum, so very durable,

00:33:01.672 --> 00:33:07.942
- long-lasting, and will be, you know, around for as long as the building is. Moving inside, one of the

00:33:07.942 --> 00:33:14.089
- things we heard over and over again with the way funding committee is we need to keep the messaging

00:33:14.089 --> 00:33:19.990
- as simple as possible. So, these are just some examples of different types of signs. Right now,

00:33:19.990 --> 00:33:23.678
- they're not, in this graphic, you know, the different signs

00:33:24.002 --> 00:33:29.326
- might be different scales, and not as all, depending on where they're located. For example, the ceiling

00:33:29.326 --> 00:33:34.548
- mounted sign, which based on the text that's here, this might be what's in the connector on the first

00:33:34.548 --> 00:33:39.718
- floor when you walk in from the parking lot, telling you if you go to the right, you're going to the

00:33:39.718 --> 00:33:44.838
- courtyard. If you go to the left, you're going into this building. If you go straight ahead, you'll

00:33:44.838 --> 00:33:50.008
- hit the new building. That might be a three by six foot sign that's hanging from the ceiling. That's

00:33:50.008 --> 00:33:52.926
- a larger scale sign. Something like this directory sign,

00:33:53.090 --> 00:33:59.329
- that might be next to the reception desk when you first walk in, that would be a much more kind of pedestrian

00:33:59.329 --> 00:34:05.000
- small scale that you're up close to. So that's one of the things we're studying is how large should

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:10.729
- these signs be and based on their content and legibility. Things like the meeting room signs and the

00:34:10.729 --> 00:34:16.797
- restroom signs that are above entries into the spaces, those would be higher and larger so they're visible

00:34:16.797 --> 00:34:20.030
- from further away. And just trying to keep a consistent,

00:34:20.226 --> 00:34:27.353
- approach to the text and the logos and that sort of thing to be very clear. So what does that look like

00:34:27.353 --> 00:34:34.343
- in the space? So this is just a quick rendering example of, you know, pre-function rendering you guys

00:34:34.343 --> 00:34:41.402
- have seen before with some of these signage pieces added. So there's things like the meeting room sign

00:34:41.402 --> 00:34:48.460
- that has a digital calendar display on it for that day, what events are going on. There's letters over

00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:49.214
- top of it.

00:34:49.378 --> 00:34:55.810
- dimensional characters, you know, just calling out attention to the exhibit hall as well as the ceiling

00:34:55.810 --> 00:35:02.180
- mounted sign that is visible from far away. So if you're in a, if this area is crowded and you're down

00:35:02.180 --> 00:35:08.550
- at one of the entries, you'll see that exhibit room A hanging up high and nowhere to go. Restrooms are

00:35:08.550 --> 00:35:14.302
- a different color. So that's something we've heard asked a lot. It's a very common question.

00:35:14.594 --> 00:35:20.157
- And then things like the large text, kind of just to help you way find where you're going, where the

00:35:20.157 --> 00:35:25.775
- elevators are, where an information desk might be. Just examples of things that we're thinking about.

00:35:25.775 --> 00:35:31.393
- So that's what we've got for today. Our next steps, as I mentioned, is with your approval, we'll move

00:35:31.393 --> 00:35:37.121
- into the construction documents phase. We'll work on kind of cataloging, like I mentioned, every single

00:35:37.121 --> 00:35:43.070
- sign, what it says, where it goes, how it's made, that sort of thing, using kind of these types and pieces.

00:35:44.354 --> 00:35:50.476
- Thank you. Thank you. Deb, would you help me? We've had a working group that's been working with Schmidt

00:35:50.476 --> 00:35:56.307
- on this. We've had several meetings. Can you identify everybody who's been involved in this working

00:35:56.307 --> 00:36:02.196
- group as we've gotten to today? Yes. On the committee has been President Whitehart, Jim Silverstein,

00:36:02.196 --> 00:36:08.259
- and Joyce Poling have been part of it. During the design process, I will say there were several options

00:36:08.259 --> 00:36:12.574
- that were provided to the committee for their input, and so that has been

00:36:12.834 --> 00:36:18.729
- part of as typical for any design process and has been reviewed by the committee. And then they gave

00:36:18.729 --> 00:36:24.858
- them clear direction. And then this is what came back. So just share that. And included in the committee

00:36:24.858 --> 00:36:30.694
- of Convention Center staff. Convention Center staff are also part of, excuse me, yes. They are also

00:36:30.694 --> 00:36:36.531
- part of it. Yeah. Talish and Lisa. So Eddie's asking us today for approval of the design concept so

00:36:36.531 --> 00:36:42.718
- that they can move forward with this plan. And so I would ask if there's a motion for the design concept.

00:36:43.330 --> 00:36:50.876
- moved. So we've had a motion second it's been moved and seconded so is there any discussion or comments

00:36:50.876 --> 00:36:58.350
- or questions Mr. Teese? It looks great the only thing I would add is there are potentials that someday

00:36:58.350 --> 00:37:05.824
- rooms spaces would be named that happens often over time and it's good to think about that graphic now

00:37:05.824 --> 00:37:12.862
- rather than later like oh hey we got to append this to this so I would just ask that the team be

00:37:13.186 --> 00:37:21.662
- Anticipatory of what is the font size, shape, tone when things might get named, as opposed to, I didn't

00:37:21.662 --> 00:37:30.220
- think about that. I don't know where we're going to put that. Do that now, because I think that's highly

00:37:30.220 --> 00:37:38.696
- possible in this kind of environment. Thank you. Any other comments, questions? OK, so we have a motion

00:37:38.696 --> 00:37:41.630
- and a second. Mr. Paris, would you?

00:37:42.050 --> 00:37:48.730
- Take the roll. John Weichart. Yes. Doug Bruce. Yes. Jim Silberstein. Yes. Joyce Pulling. Yes. Adam Tease.

00:37:48.730 --> 00:37:55.220
- Yes. Galen Cassidy. Yes. Thank you. Also under working group updates, and we won't always have updates

00:37:55.220 --> 00:38:01.648
- from each group. We just have a placeholder for them each month. Furniture fixtures and equipment, is

00:38:01.648 --> 00:38:04.862
- there any update this month? Yeah, just to really.

00:38:06.498 --> 00:38:12.024
- So thank you for providing the word to that contract. We had some initial meetings with delicious and

00:38:12.024 --> 00:38:17.442
- her team. One of the, there's really been only one sort of major change from what we had and it's a

00:38:17.442 --> 00:38:22.968
- good thing I think for the budget at least is that the catering team is actually going to provide all

00:38:22.968 --> 00:38:24.702
- the utensils plates glasses so.

00:38:24.802 --> 00:38:30.580
- We can take that out of our budget, which is a good thing. But there's more coming. There's scoping

00:38:30.580 --> 00:38:36.531
- by realist strategies, as well as budgeting. There is going to be a small group, I believe, of the CIB

00:38:36.531 --> 00:38:41.962
- with Talisha staff that will be reviewing that later in March, and then more updates to come.

00:38:41.962 --> 00:38:47.797
- Thank you. Arts installation. Bead Advisor Galen, is there any update this month? Yeah, just another

00:38:47.797 --> 00:38:48.606
- quick update.

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- We all five finalists are underway working on some proposals and we're actually gonna begin welcoming

00:38:55.009 --> 00:39:01.126
- a few of them over the next few weeks here to town to get to know the community a little better and

00:39:01.126 --> 00:39:07.121
- meet with members of the recommendation committee as well. So we're excited about the next steps.

00:39:07.121 --> 00:39:13.054
- Thank you. I didn't ask any questions about any of these updates that you. All right, thank you.

00:39:13.794 --> 00:39:21.134
- Item number seven, old business. Let me report out under old business that since our February 5th meeting,

00:39:21.134 --> 00:39:28.474
- Mayor Thompson has been in contact with me and wanted me to mention today that the Thompson administration

00:39:28.474 --> 00:39:35.539
- will fully support providing the south properties at no cost to the CIB for project development. These

00:39:35.539 --> 00:39:40.958
- land parcels are owned by two different city entities. The Board of Works owns

00:39:41.090 --> 00:39:46.746
- one or two of the parcels redevelopment commission, the others, I may have the numbers backwards, but

00:39:46.746 --> 00:39:52.735
- those are structured public decisions that are made by those boards and commissions. So the administration,

00:39:52.735 --> 00:39:58.613
- the Thompson administration and the mayor are working towards the most seamless transfer of those parcels

00:39:58.613 --> 00:40:04.490
- possible with the intention to provide the land value as an incentive to the expansion project. So that's

00:40:04.490 --> 00:40:10.590
- a development since our last, I would also mention that Mr. Whitlatch has formally communicated to the county

00:40:11.202 --> 00:40:18.243
- our request for their review of parcels for donation as well. And I've been advised that the county

00:40:18.243 --> 00:40:25.495
- commissioners are looking favorably at transferring parcels, the parcels to the west, that's a parking

00:40:25.495 --> 00:40:32.676
- lot now, as well as looking at the parcels that are further south of our current south parking lot to

00:40:32.676 --> 00:40:37.182
- second street. That would also require county council approval.

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- So they are also moving forward with our request to see what other properties may be available for donation

00:40:44.905 --> 00:40:51.233
- for the project. Once we've been advised of all the properties transferred to us, we can look

00:40:51.233 --> 00:40:58.436
- at a comprehensive land use plan to include a hotel and parking needs, any opportunity for land exchanges,

00:40:58.436 --> 00:41:02.206
- as has been suggested by the City Council, and the best

00:41:02.530 --> 00:41:09.914
- benefit of a comprehensive scope of the project for the best benefit of the comprehensive scope of the

00:41:09.914 --> 00:41:17.084
- project. And then we can consider a new RFP for a hotel after we've identified the land that we own

00:41:17.084 --> 00:41:24.324
- for the project and what other uses we may need to make for the land. So I wanted to provide that as

00:41:24.324 --> 00:41:31.422
- an old business update. Any other old business that you wanna bring before? Is there any timeframe

00:41:31.906 --> 00:41:38.566
- that you're aware of when they might have those parcels transferred over to us, just so we can go forward

00:41:38.566 --> 00:41:45.226
- with the RFP? No. Obviously, it'll take some time. So the first thing that has to happen, if I understand

00:41:45.226 --> 00:41:51.635
- correctly, is I think the mayor's goal is that the parcels will all come under one ownership. They're

00:41:51.635 --> 00:41:58.043
- currently under two, the Board of Works and the Redevelopment Commission. I think her goal is for the

00:41:58.043 --> 00:41:59.614
- Redevelopment Commission

00:42:00.194 --> 00:42:05.854
- to own all those parcels and then at that point to make the transfer to us, to the capital improvement

00:42:05.854 --> 00:42:11.569
- board, but I don't have a timeline for it. The county process may take a little longer because it would

00:42:11.569 --> 00:42:17.064
- require the county commissioner's approval and then in public meetings and the county council would

00:42:17.064 --> 00:42:22.669
- have to consider that and move it forward as well. So it's hard for me to say when that might happen.

00:42:22.669 --> 00:42:28.274
- I guess I would be hopeful that it's odd for me to even think we're almost to the end, next week will

00:42:28.274 --> 00:42:29.758
- be to the end of February.

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- But I would be hopeful by the end of March, perhaps all this can be more clear for us and where we are

00:42:37.489 --> 00:42:44.910
- and what ownership we might have. I do want to mention, though, that as we've discussed, the project

00:42:44.910 --> 00:42:52.477
- is multifaceted. So we have an expansion, we've got a renovation, we've got parking to consider, we've

00:42:52.477 --> 00:42:58.942
- got a hotel developer to select and a location to select. So I think as soon as we know

00:42:59.106 --> 00:43:06.286
- what land we own, that will lead us to what do we want to make available for which part of those projects.

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- And we all recognize the importance of parking to this project. And so we have to be very mindful and

00:43:13.131 --> 00:43:19.975
- thoughtful as we move forward about how we identify what pieces of land we own and for what purposes.

00:43:19.975 --> 00:43:26.820
- So I think that'll then drive us to what the RFP is going to look like for a new hotel developer. Any

00:43:26.820 --> 00:43:28.766
- other comments or questions?

00:43:29.762 --> 00:43:36.903
- Any other old business from anyone? New business, any new business from anyone? Comments from board

00:43:36.903 --> 00:43:44.259
- members. Any comments from board members? Comments from the public. And let me first ask Mr. Baer, now

00:43:44.259 --> 00:43:51.685
- participating as a member of the public, if he has any comments he would like to make about our meeting

00:43:51.685 --> 00:43:58.398
- today. And now we would happily invite them. And Jay, do you have anything you'd like to add?

00:43:58.850 --> 00:44:04.129
- Yeah, thanks very much, Mr. Weickart. Sorry I couldn't be with you today. Just a couple of

00:44:04.129 --> 00:44:10.104
- quick acknowledgments. I just want to say how lucky I think we are to be working with Andrew and Eddie

00:44:10.104 --> 00:44:16.137
- on this project. Their work has been exceptional and their ability to communicate highly complex issues

00:44:16.137 --> 00:44:22.054
- to everybody involved has been really spectacular. So we're really fortunate to have the team that we

00:44:22.054 --> 00:44:23.678
- have and big thanks to Deb.

00:44:24.354 --> 00:44:29.602
- for working on our behalf to keep everybody together as well. I absolutely love the signage. I think

00:44:29.602 --> 00:44:35.058
- it's spectacular. It's really, really spot on. The consistency of the angles and mirroring the roofline,

00:44:35.058 --> 00:44:40.618
- I think, is really going to be a signature and a really nice wayfinding package. And I just say, I imagine

00:44:40.618 --> 00:44:45.814
- that there's some folks who are a little frustrated about what appears to be sort of back to square

00:44:45.814 --> 00:44:51.115
- one with regards to the hotel. And in truth, yes, it probably would have been great if we had all the

00:44:51.115 --> 00:44:51.998
- land figured out

00:44:52.226 --> 00:44:57.922
- before we did the first RFP, but at some level we didn't know what we didn't know. And we thought the

00:44:57.922 --> 00:45:03.507
- land piece of this would be easier than it has ended up being. But I'm delighted that we're sort of

00:45:03.507 --> 00:45:09.370
- back on track and everybody understands how important it is to truly think of this project holistically,

00:45:09.370 --> 00:45:14.955
- not just as a convention center, but as a convention center with a hotel and with adequate parking.

00:45:14.955 --> 00:45:19.646
- So all's well that ends well. And as you always say, survive in advance. Thank you.

00:45:20.930 --> 00:45:30.655
- Any other comments from the public? This is an opportunity, if you would so like, we afford two minutes

00:45:30.655 --> 00:45:40.380
- of time for anybody from the public who would like to make a comment. I'm sure. Isville Piedmont Smith,

00:45:40.380 --> 00:45:48.702
- the City Council member. Yes, thank you. Can you hear me? Yes. Thank you, Mr. Whitehart.

00:45:49.538 --> 00:46:00.229
- I was heartened to know that the land ownership and what land the city and the county governments are

00:46:00.229 --> 00:46:11.444
- willing to put towards the project that seems to be working out. I recognize that the hotel is an integral

00:46:11.444 --> 00:46:16.894
- part of this project. So I agree with Mr. Baer that

00:46:17.026 --> 00:46:24.969
- despite some fumbles, we seem to be moving ahead and that's good for the community. Just a comment on

00:46:24.969 --> 00:46:33.379
- the signage, in particular the interior signage. I just hope that accessibility for people who are visually

00:46:33.379 --> 00:46:41.244
- impaired is being considered or is hopefully a default by default part of the signage in Braille and

00:46:41.244 --> 00:46:42.334
- such and good

00:46:42.498 --> 00:46:50.345
- high contrast seems to be the case for what's being proposed. Also, another accessibility issue that

00:46:50.345 --> 00:46:58.813
- some people may not think about, but if patterns in carpeting or in the wall covering is too busy, sometimes

00:46:58.813 --> 00:47:06.660
- that can be a problem for some folks as they make their way around the facility. So I just hope that

00:47:06.660 --> 00:47:12.254
- a wide view is being shared and implemented in regard to accessibility.

00:47:12.834 --> 00:47:22.334
- Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Any other comments from the public? OK, all right. Seeing and hearing

00:47:22.334 --> 00:47:31.925
- none. Our next board meeting is scheduled for March 25th, and that's out of sync because of spring break.

00:47:31.925 --> 00:47:40.158
- So I think it's maybe the fourth Wednesday of March at 3 PM here in the Convention Center.

00:47:40.866 --> 00:47:46.750
- And that being said, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. We are adjourned.
