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-  I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Minerva County Board of Commissioners.

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-  It is Thursday, June 5th, and I will note for the record that Commissioner Jones and

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-  myself are here and present in the NatU Hill Room.

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-  Commissioner Madeira should be joining us online, but I do not see her yet.

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-  I'm here.

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-  Great.

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-  There you are.

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-  Thank you.

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-  Appreciate it.

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-  All right.

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-  All right, and we'll begin with our public statement

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-  read by Commissioner Jones.

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-  We, the Monroe County Board of Commissioners,

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-  renew our commitment to welcome

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-  and protect the rights of all people,

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-  regardless of age, race, color, creed,

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-  disability, sexual orientation, gender,

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-  gender identity, marital status,

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-  economic status, and national origin.

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-  And we affirm the right of every person

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-  to live peacefully and without fear,

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-  and we will fight and resist at every step

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-  discrimination and harmful policies,

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-  whatever their source.

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-  We believe in diversity, equity,

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-  and inclusion and belonging.

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-  We also stand in support of our county public school systems,

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-  both our BB and MCSC.

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-  All right, thank you so much.

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-  We're supposed to have a proclamation on

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-  National Gun Violence Awareness Day,

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-  and I do not have it handy.

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-  So, but I will note for the record

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-  that Moms Demand Action is organizing

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-  their Wear Orange, Prevent Gun Violence Rally.

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-  So Wear Orange tomorrow, June 6.

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-  It is an annual event that occurs at the courthouse

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-  and there's a resource fair at 6 p.m. to 8.30 p.m.

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-  and there's a program that starts at 7 p.m.

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-  So Wear Orange, it's a sign that hunters use for safety.

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-  And Moms Demand Action is hosting that event.

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-  So we invite everyone to the courthouse for that tomorrow

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-  and our courthouse will be lit in orange

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-  this weekend as well.

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-  All right, with that, we will move on to department updates.

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-  Good morning, commissioners.

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-  As of June 3rd, emergency department visits for COVID-like

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-  illness have continued to decrease

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-  as well as wastewater concentrations.

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-  As of May 27th, the COVID-19 vaccine will no longer

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-  be included in the CDC's recommended vaccine schedule

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-  for healthy children and pregnant women.

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-  People who will be recommended to receive the vaccine

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-  are those over 65 and those with existing health problems.

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-  It's not clear at this time what insurance companies

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-  will do about the new recommendations and coverage.

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-  The health department does still have

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-  free COVID vaccines available.

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-  You can call 812-353-3244 for more information

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-  or to schedule an appointment.

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-  All right, thank you so much.

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-  What is the last day of that availability?

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-  For the COVID vaccines?

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-  Yes.

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-  So we do have them available at the public health clinic.

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-  I know that some of our childhood ones have expired,

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-  but we have various other age groups,

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-  so you can call for that.

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-  Okay, I think what I'm asking is when is that new--

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-  Oh, recommendation.

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-  It actually started May 27th.

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-  Okay, so it's already in place.

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-  Okay. - Yes.

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-  And there is a new RNA shot next spike

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-  that was approved by the FDA,

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-  but we don't know what availability will be or any of that.

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-  Okay, comments or questions?

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-  Commissioner Jones?

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-  No, I don't.

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-  Commissioner Madeira?

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-  This actually breaks my heart

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-  because what we're seeing

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-  is sort of the systematic taking a part

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-  of the vaccination system.

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-  And I think this comes at a time

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-  when we have new variants coming down the pipeline.

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-  I urge anyone who needs a COVID vaccine

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-  to get it as soon as possible

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-  because there is a new variant

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-  that has actually been found.

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-  It has, there has been news about this

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-  in the last two weeks.

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-  And I just had a question for Lori.

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-  Do you know whether there are certain criteria

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-  where healthy adults who may have health problems

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-  that are not, you know, normally considered life limiting?

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-  Like, for example, they may have asthma.

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-  And do you know like where people can obtain guidance

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-  on what kinds of conditions can qualify them

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-  for continued COVID vaccinations, I guess?

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-  I imagine that many of us have conditions

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-  where we may take medication for them.

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-  They may not prompt us to go to our daughter,

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-  to our doctors in a bi-weekly or monthly schedule.

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-  Where can we get this information?

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-  So other than talking to someone's provider, of course,

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-  you can check the CDC website

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-  to see updated information is listed on there.

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-  That's kind of the best guidance at this time.

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-  Excellent, thank you so very much.

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-  All right, thank you.

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-  TSD, I'm wondering if you could move

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-  the transcription box up the page a little bit

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-  because it's hidden for us here at the podium.

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-  Thank you so much.

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-  All right, any other departments have an update to offer?

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-  Ah, that'll work.

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-  Thank you so much, TSD.

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-  Okay, all right.

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-  Seeing none, we'll move on to our next item.

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-  The next item is public comment.

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-  This is open public comment time

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-  for items that are not on our agenda.

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-  Each speaker is limited to three minutes, please.

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-  We ask that you provide your name

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-  and your county of residence.

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-  You may come to the podium in the NatU Hill Room

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-  or raise your hand on Teams.

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-  It looks like we have two hands raised on Teams,

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-  but I cannot see the names here.

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-  So I'm gonna have to look.

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-  Good morning, commissioners.

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-  I'll just begin a public comment to get the ball rolling.

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-  I wanna continue the celebrating

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-  of Tuesday's convention center expansion groundbreaking,

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-  a truly historic day for our community.

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-  This milestone has been a long time coming

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-  and we're now on the path to that 12 month economy.

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-  I commend this body for their leadership.

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-  As commissioner Thomas said,

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-  the key was having the intuition to establish the CID

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-  and then get out of their way.

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-  Today, we're seeing the fruits of that vision.

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-  The other thing I want to bring up

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-  is what I witnessed at a recent

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-  planned commission administrative session.

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-  They had some robust, respectful discourse

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-  that democracy requires.

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-  It's not always comfortable, but it is necessary.

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-  So disagreements isn't dysfunction, it's engagement.

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-  I want to stress that.

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-  And that engagement means that people

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-  hear deeply about Monroe County,

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-  which is what we want to see on our boards and commissions.

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-  So I encourage the planned commission

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-  to continue leaning into that discomfort.

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-  Respect differences, ask hard questions,

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-  because even when we don't all agree,

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-  we're all working toward that same goal of more vibrant,

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-  a better, more balanced Monroe County for all.

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-  And I thank you for your time today.

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-  Thank you, Mr. MG.

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-  We also have Melanie from YSB with her hand raised.

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-  Good morning.

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-  Or muted.

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-  Now, the hand's down.

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-  OK, all right.

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-  All right, thank you, everyone.

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-  We'll move on to the next item, please.

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-  Move approval of the minutes for May 29th, 2025.

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-  I will second that.

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-  Any comments, corrections, or edits?

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-  No?

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-  OK.

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-  OK, thank you.

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-  We'll move on to the next item, please.

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-  Any comments, corrections, or edits?

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-  Ms. Turner-King, would you please

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-  call the roll on the approval of the minutes for May 29th, 2025?

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-  Commissioner Jones?

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-  Yes.

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-  Commissioner Madera?

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-  Yes.

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-  Commissioner Thomas?

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-  Yes.

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-  Motion passes 3-0.

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-  Thank you so much.

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-  All right, next item, please.

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-  Move approval of the claims docket, accounts payable,

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-  June 5th, 2025.

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-  I will second that.

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-  Ms. Gallardo from the auditor's office, good morning.

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-  Good morning.

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-  The accounts payable claims docket for June 5th, 2025

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-  totals $1,801,091.21.

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-  And this includes all emergency claims and adjustments.

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-  Thank you so much.

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-  Comments or questions?

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-  Commissioner Jones?

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-  No, I don't.

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-  Commissioner Madeira, comments or questions?

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-  No, none.

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-  I don't either.

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-  Is there any public comment on this item?

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-  You may raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium.

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-  Seeing none, Ms. Turner-King, would you

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-  please call the roll on approval of claims docket,

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-  accounts payable, June 5th, 2025?

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-  Commissioner Jones?

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-  Yes.

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-  Commissioner Madeira?

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-  Yes.

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-  Commissioner Thomas?

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-  Yes.

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-  Motion passes 3-0.

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-  Thank you so much.

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-  I will note for the record that we have received two reports,

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-  Clerk of the Courts report for April 2025,

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-  and the Weights and Measures report

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-  April 16th to May 15th, 2025.

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-  And with that, we will move on to new business, please.

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-  Move approval of Reed and Sons construction contract number

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-  one, change order number five for Karst Athletic Complex

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-  Improvement Project.

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-  I will second that.

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-  We have Ms. Whitmer, Director of Parks, joining us.

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-  Good morning.

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-  Good morning.

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-  This is very simple.

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-  This is not to increase the contract by a dime or penny.

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-  It's for $20,118.15 to be spent out of our contingency funds

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-  that is within the contract.

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-  It's for the equipment garage electric stone gate

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-  in a storm fitting.

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-  Thank you so much.

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-  Comments or questions?

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-  Commissioner Jones?

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-  I see no problems with this.

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-  Right.

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-  This is why there's a contingency line.

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-  Yes.

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-  Commissioner Maduro, comments or questions?

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-  None.

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-  Thank you.

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-  The community is starting to talk more and more about this.

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-  So this is in a good way.

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-  It's highly anticipated.

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-  We're very excited.

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-  So I know a lot of this rain doesn't help much.

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-  And we've had a lot this spring.

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-  But really appreciate all the hard work that's gotten us here.

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-  Well, and I just want to tell the public,

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-  we apologize for all the construction traffic.

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-  And it is what it is.

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-  Short-term pain, long-term gain.

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-  There you go.

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-  All right.

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-  Let's see if there's any public comment on this item.

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-  You can raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium.

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-  Let's see.

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-  None.

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-  Ms. Turner-King, would you please call the roll

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-  on the Reid & Sons construction contract number one,

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-  change order number five for Carson Athletic Complex

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-  Improvement Project?

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-  Commissioner Jones.

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-  Yes.

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-  Commissioner Madera.

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-  Yes.

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-  Commissioner Thomas.

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-  Yes.

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-  Motion passes 3-0.

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-  Thank you.

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-  Thank you so much.

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-  We will now have the-- there isn't really a motion,

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-  but we're going to hear the 2024 Community Corrections Grant

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-  Annual Report.

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-  Ms. Street, good morning.

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-  If I may share my screen one moment.

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-  Good morning.

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-  I'm Becca Streit.

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-  I'm the Community Corrections Executive Director and Deputy

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-  Chief Probation Officer.

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-  Every year, as part of our Community Corrections Grants,

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-  provide a annual report to the commissioners.

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-  I'm a little late this year, but better late than never.

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-  Just as a reminder that our Community Corrections

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-  and our Probation Department are a unified department.

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-  So all of our Community Corrections Officers

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-  are also probation officers.

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-  But these specific grants that we get for Community Corrections

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-  are from the Department of Correction.

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-  We've been partnering with them for, I believe, 43 years

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-  to receive money.

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-  This money funds staff for our Community Corrections

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-  program, like home detention, all of our problem-solving

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-  courts, and then also our pretrial program.

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-  So I wanted to just give a little bit of an overview

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-  of what 2024 was like.

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-  Just to let everybody know that the probation

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-  department and Community Corrections

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-  does have a mission.

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-  And it's all about helping individuals with rehabilitation

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-  and then also community safety.

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-  Like I said earlier, Community Corrections here in Monroe

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-  County began in 1983.

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-  That's when we began receiving Department of Correction

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-  funding.

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-  Again, we operate home detention and electronic monitoring,

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-  day reporting, pretrial services,

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-  problem-solving courts, including drug treatment

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-  court, mental health court, veterans, and reentry court.

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-  This is an overview of the funding

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-  that we received in 2024.

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-  Each grant entity receives its own funding

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-  from the Department of Correction.

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-  And then you can see the total there.

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-  So we receive a little over $1.5 million

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-  in grant funding for these specific programs.

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-  You'll also notice that the only problem-solving courts listed

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-  in this chart are drug treatment and mental health court.

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-  Those are the only problem-solving courts

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-  that the Department of Correction specifically

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-  funds.

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-  So that's why those are highlighted.

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-  Unfortunately, there is some bad news

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-  about the Department of Correction grants.

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-  They have been flatlined for the past five years.

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-  So we and, additionally, any counties across the state

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-  have not really received much increase in funding, if any.

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-  This means that our local money, including

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-  the fees that the clients pay, is

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-  having to make up the difference to make up

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-  for cost of living and fringe benefit increases for staff.

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-  User fees are significantly down.

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-  It's something that we do keep an eye on all the time.

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-  But I also want to dispel any myths out there.

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-  Monroe County Circuit Courts and the judges

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-  do not put people back in jail solely because they

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-  can't pay their user fees.

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-  Probation officers and community corrections officers

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-  don't solely file violations just because of fees.

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-  So while we recognize that we have

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-  the unfortunate position of being fee collectors sometimes,

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-  that is not the main goal or objective of our officers

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-  on probation.

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-  And then the Department of Correction grants,

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-  like I said earlier, they only fund staff salaries

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-  and benefits, which I will highlight here

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-  why we do that in a minute.

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-  So just some quick facts about 2024.

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-  We had 111 case referrals to our community alternative

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-  supervision program, or CASP.

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-  That's just the long phrase for both pre-trial and post-sentence

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-  electronic monitoring.

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-  So electronic monitoring can be used

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-  for people who have been ordered to serve

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-  a sentence in incarceration, but the court has decided

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-  that they can remain in their home.

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-  They do get jail credit for serving home detention.

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-  We also use it for pre-trial.

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-  However, our pre-trial clients, it's

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-  always less than 1% of our total pre-trial population

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-  that is ever on electronic monitoring or home

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-  detention pre-trial.

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-  So it's very low.

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-  There were over 1,700 pre-trial assessments completed in 2024.

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-  That means that our pre-trial officers were in the jail

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-  or in the office meeting with clients every day who

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-  were arrested the previous business day.

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-  Those assessments are used.

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-  They're provided to the court to give us

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-  additional information to the court about a person's risk

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-  to maybe not show up to court or to re-offend

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-  during their pre-trial period.

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-  And then the courts are using that information

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-  to determine if, while the person is out of jail pre-trial,

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-  are there any conditions that are necessary.

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-  The courts also use this to determine

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-  if people can be released.

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-  The purpose of pre-trial is to maximize release from jail.

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-  So that is what they're using those reports for.

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-  Drug Treatment Court had its 542nd graduate

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-  in December of 2024.

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-  And Mental Health Court had its 27th graduate

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-  by the end of 2024.

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-  Just a few visuals of some of our success rates.

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-  This is for home detention and electronic monitoring success

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-  rate.

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-  You'll see that 93% in 2024 completed successfully.

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-  We also keep track of pre-trial safety rates and success rates.

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-  Pre-trial safety rate means that people

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-  who completed their pre-trial period, so they were arrested,

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-  released from jail while their case was pending,

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-  and they did not commit a new offense during that pre-trial

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-  period.

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-  That's the safety rate.

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-  And so you'll see that it's fairly

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-  consistent throughout the past five years,

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-  hovering around 93% to 94%.

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-  We also keep track of pre-trial success rates.

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-  And this is people who completed their pre-trial period,

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-  never picked up a new offense, never

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-  committed a technical violation or a violation that's

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-  not a new offense, and then also appeared to all their court

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-  hearings.

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-  And again, that's remained very consistent as well,

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-  in 2024, almost 69%.

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-  And then just to highlight the successes of the problem

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-  solving court.

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-  So drug court, 75% success rate.

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-  I know Veterans Court isn't part of our Department of Correction

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-  Grant, but they're at 100% success rate in 2024.

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-  So I wanted to make sure to highlight that.

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-  Reentry court, people who have been incarcerated

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-  and are coming back to the community, a 64%.

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-  And then mental health, the percentage of success

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-  is about 36%, but that's to be expected with that caseload.

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-  There are a lot of things going on with those clients

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-  that we're addressing.

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-  So I said that I wanted to get back to why the Department

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-  of Correction and why we use the grant funds to invest in staff.

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-  And as I've presented to this executive body before,

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-  and we've done other presentations

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-  around the community, our department

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-  is at the forefront of using evidence-based practices

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-  in our community supervision.

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-  Research shows that if our probation officers and really

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-  all of our staff are trained and we pay attention

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-  to the fidelity of evidence-based practices,

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-  that's going to equal better client outcomes.

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-  So that's better for the individuals

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-  and also better for the community for community safety.

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-  When I say evidence-based practices,

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-  that's referring to using the current research that's

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-  out there to guide what we're doing with our clients.

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-  It started in the medical field.

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-  Doctors, of course, should be doing what the research says

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-  on how to treat us.

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-  And criminal justice said, oh, yeah, we

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-  should be doing the same thing when

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-  we're working with our clients.

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-  And of course, the ultimate goal is

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-  to not have individuals come back through the system.

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-  I won't spend too much time on this.

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-  I could go into this for a whole day.

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-  But this is the basis of what our officers are doing

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-  or keeping in mind when they're working with our clients.

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-  This is called the risk needs responsivity principle.

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-  So it's about who we're targeting with services,

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-  what we're doing with them when we're meeting with them,

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-  or where we're referring our clients,

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-  and then how we're getting that done.

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-  So all of our clients receive a risk assessment

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-  when they start probation so we can determine

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-  what their risk level is and what their needs are.

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-  We also do a full background on our clients

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-  or to analyze what's bringing them to the system

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-  in the first place.

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-  And then we're also responding to any responsivity needs.

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-  That could be anything from gender responsivity,

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-  is there other issues with education levels like reading,

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-  so making sure that we factor all that in.

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-  Evidence-based research also shows that

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-  there are certain factors that are correlated

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-  with people's risk of offending.

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-  The top four or the big four

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-  are the antisocial attitudes and beliefs,

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-  antisocial peers, antisocial personality, and family.

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-  So our officers, when we're analyzing

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-  what's bringing a client here,

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-  if one of those top four are identified,

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-  we make sure that their case plan

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-  is going to address any of those concerns.

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-  You'll also see that there's the lesser four risks,

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-  substance use, employment, education, school,

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-  and then what they're doing in their free time.

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-  I know everybody's really surprised

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-  that substance use is considered one of the lesser four.

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-  We absolutely address it,

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-  but we know through research

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-  that usually the substance use is being driven

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-  by one of those top four concerns

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-  rather than just a simple use.

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-  And then I also could go on forever with this,

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-  but I wanted to make sure that I shared with you

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-  the eight principles of effective intervention.

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-  This is what our department adheres to

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-  in every interaction, every policy that we put together,

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-  every change in what we're doing,

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-  this is what we refer back to.

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-  So this is from the National Institute of Correction,

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-  and these are the things that we're supposed to be doing

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-  in our work with community supervision clients.

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-  So we're supposed to be doing a risk assessment.

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-  We're supposed to be figuring out

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-  where the client's motivation is.

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-  Are they even aware that some of these things are an issue,

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-  and if they're not aware, how do we raise that awareness?

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-  We're making sure that we're targeting specific needs.

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-  We're doing skill training with them.

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-  If you walk down our hallways at probation,

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-  you'll hear a ton of role play

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-  between a probation officer and a client

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-  just practicing things like how to tell my peer no,

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-  that I don't want to engage in this behavior.

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-  We increase positive reinforcement through incentives.

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-  We make referrals to the community services,

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-  and then, of course, we're using data all the time.

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-  I know on this screen, but I'm often asked,

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-  I do a lot of the hiring screening,

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-  and I'm often asked,

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-  what does a day in the life of a probation officer look like?

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-  And it's impossible to throw that on a screen,

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-  but I wanted to specifically narrow in

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-  on the evidence-based practice piece,

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-  because this is why we're investing our grant money

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-  into our staff.

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-  Our staff, it's more than just

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-  what we call checklist probation.

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-  Our probation officers are not sitting there saying,

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-  did you pay your fees?

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-  Did you go to treatment?

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-  Oh, you had a positive drug test, shame on you.

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-  That is not what's happening.

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-  We are completing risk assessments.

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-  We are working with the clients when they first start

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-  to figure out what brought them here,

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-  what are the patterns that are leading

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-  to their criminal behavior.

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-  We're addressing their behavior drivers

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-  to create case plans.

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-  Every client's case plan is individualized

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-  to address their specific goals and objectives.

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-  All of our officers are trained

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-  in cognitive behavioral interventions.

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-  So we are working with the clients

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-  to help restructure their thinking.

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-  Their thinking got them here.

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-  Their feelings got them here.

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-  It led to a behavior.

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-  How can we help them change that for the future?

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-  We're applying incentives.

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-  We're applying sanctions.

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-  We're helping clients navigate all the community services.

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-  All of our staff receive fidelity coaching.

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-  So we have evidence-based practices,

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-  probation officer coaches who don't have a caseload.

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-  Their caseload are the probation officers.

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-  They're sitting in on appointments.

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-  They're doing pre-coaching, post-coaching, watching videos.

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-  We have trainings monthly, learning teams monthly

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-  where we all come together to practice all of this material.

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-  These are just a few things that our officers do

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-  in their appointments.

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-  We do things like thinking, feeling,

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-  action behavior chains with the clients.

00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:55.700
-  We receive training in trauma-informed care,

00:27:55.700 --> 00:27:57.960
-  and we apply that during our appointments.

00:27:57.960 --> 00:27:59.960
-  We do interactive journaling.

00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:02.260
-  We're reinforcing positive behavior.

00:28:02.260 --> 00:28:04.780
-  We're disapproving of negative behavior.

00:28:04.780 --> 00:28:08.720
-  We're doing alcohol and drug assessments, case plans,

00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.520
-  and just even teaching problem-solving skills.

00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:18.100
-  So I say all that just because I did want the community

00:28:18.100 --> 00:28:21.060
-  just to know what's going on at the probation department

00:28:21.060 --> 00:28:24.180
-  when a client is in a probation meeting.

00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:26.220
-  That is what's happening.

00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:28.100
-  What we're doing next with Community Corrections

00:28:28.100 --> 00:28:29.840
-  and the whole department, we're of course

00:28:29.840 --> 00:28:32.900
-  gonna be closely monitoring funding.

00:28:32.900 --> 00:28:36.740
-  We did, I failed to mention earlier,

00:28:36.740 --> 00:28:39.380
-  we did learn that the state budget

00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:43.460
-  for the upcoming two years did cut Community Corrections

00:28:43.460 --> 00:28:46.780
-  across the state by almost 10%.

00:28:46.780 --> 00:28:48.820
-  So we are still waiting word

00:28:48.820 --> 00:28:50.540
-  from the Department of Correction

00:28:50.540 --> 00:28:53.460
-  regarding our 2026 grant applications

00:28:53.460 --> 00:28:56.580
-  to see how that funding cut will affect us.

00:28:56.580 --> 00:29:00.180
-  We will continue to invest in our staff,

00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:02.520
-  in their training, coaching, and fidelity efforts

00:29:02.520 --> 00:29:04.980
-  of evidence-based practices.

00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:07.420
-  We're of course always collecting data.

00:29:07.420 --> 00:29:10.900
-  We just put out our 2024 annual report,

00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:13.060
-  which is available online.

00:29:13.060 --> 00:29:16.680
-  And then we're of course always evaluating outcomes.

00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:18.240
-  So I know that was quick,

00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.300
-  but I do appreciate you letting me take the time

00:29:20.300 --> 00:29:22.620
-  just to kind of open the door behind

00:29:22.620 --> 00:29:24.260
-  what's going on at probation,

00:29:24.260 --> 00:29:26.380
-  especially when it comes to that relationship

00:29:26.380 --> 00:29:29.220
-  between staff and clients.

00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:30.060
-  So thank you.

00:29:31.180 --> 00:29:32.480
-  Thank you, Ms. Streit.

00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.580
-  I will say, and I always get your name wrong,

00:29:35.580 --> 00:29:37.980
-  and I do apologize for that, it's terrible.

00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:39.620
-  I feel so badly about Ms. Streit.

00:29:39.620 --> 00:29:40.440
-  Please don't.

00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:41.280
-  Thank you.

00:29:41.280 --> 00:29:43.140
-  (laughs)

00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:46.440
-  I just, you know, for some members of the community

00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.820
-  who see this either live or later recorded,

00:29:49.820 --> 00:29:52.660
-  this is their first opportunity

00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:54.680
-  and understand what happens in probation.

00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.300
-  So I think the way you presented this material

00:29:58.300 --> 00:30:00.300
-  was really, really good.

00:30:00.300 --> 00:30:05.300
-  And I think in a way you are minimizing the successes

00:30:05.300 --> 00:30:13.980
-  in your presentation because, you know,

00:30:13.980 --> 00:30:17.940
-  for example, on the slide about safety,

00:30:17.940 --> 00:30:22.680
-  basically success in the program, non-rearrest,

00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:27.140
-  you know, you set your graph up like 92 to 96,

00:30:27.140 --> 00:30:29.220
-  and so it looks like these big drops

00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:32.620
-  put it out there, here's zero to a hundred.

00:30:32.620 --> 00:30:33.460
-  Where are we at?

00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:35.580
-  It's way up there, right?

00:30:35.580 --> 00:30:38.820
-  I mean, really this is, it's to be celebrated.

00:30:38.820 --> 00:30:40.620
-  And I know it takes a lot.

00:30:40.620 --> 00:30:45.220
-  It takes a lot of engagement and learning

00:30:45.220 --> 00:30:49.940
-  and working with the community and community resources

00:30:49.940 --> 00:30:52.140
-  to make all of this happen.

00:30:52.140 --> 00:30:56.860
-  But let's see what happens with federal and state funding.

00:30:56.860 --> 00:30:58.020
-  Sorry, Commissioner Jones,

00:30:58.020 --> 00:30:59.980
-  do you have any comments or questions?

00:31:00.860 --> 00:31:02.780
-  I actually have a question

00:31:02.780 --> 00:31:05.140
-  that I think I probably know the answer to.

00:31:05.140 --> 00:31:11.260
-  Do we offer the pretrial services over the weekend?

00:31:11.260 --> 00:31:13.580
-  As far as assessments, we do not.

00:31:13.580 --> 00:31:16.580
-  At this point, clients can,

00:31:16.580 --> 00:31:18.900
-  or defendants who are booked into jail

00:31:18.900 --> 00:31:23.140
-  can either still post a monetary bond to get out

00:31:23.140 --> 00:31:26.500
-  or they have to see a judge at an initial hearing

00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:28.140
-  if they're still in jail.

00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:31.740
-  So right now, there's not a policy in place

00:31:31.740 --> 00:31:34.340
-  where even if we were in the jail on the weekends,

00:31:34.340 --> 00:31:38.180
-  that we would be able to release someone.

00:31:38.180 --> 00:31:39.660
-  It's a wishlist item.

00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:42.540
-  Yes, yes, very much so.

00:31:42.540 --> 00:31:43.880
-  Yeah, yeah.

00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.080
-  Commissioner Madure, comments or questions?

00:31:46.080 --> 00:31:48.480
-  None, thank you.

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.440
-  And I really do appreciate this information

00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.260
-  because I think that a lot of people

00:31:54.260 --> 00:31:57.140
-  don't know exactly how evidence-based and data-driven

00:31:57.140 --> 00:31:58.420
-  all of this is.

00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:00.420
-  Also, Monroe County is really lucky

00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:03.340
-  to have the wealth of problem-solving courts that it does

00:32:03.340 --> 00:32:06.220
-  and the wealth of devoted staff members that it does.

00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:07.980
-  So thank you so much.

00:32:07.980 --> 00:32:08.820
-  Thank you.

00:32:08.820 --> 00:32:11.660
-  Pre-trial diversion numbers,

00:32:11.660 --> 00:32:16.060
-  how are they over the course of the actual numbers?

00:32:16.060 --> 00:32:18.800
-  Is it increasing?

00:32:18.800 --> 00:32:19.940
-  As far as the number of clients that were?

00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:20.780
-  The clients, yes.

00:32:20.780 --> 00:32:24.660
-  It's been about between about 1,500 to 2,000.

00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:26.180
-  So that's the number of people

00:32:26.180 --> 00:32:29.700
-  that we're actually seeing in the jail every year.

00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:32.960
-  Not all of those clients end up on conditions.

00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.260
-  That's a much, much lower number.

00:32:36.260 --> 00:32:39.700
-  That's usually hovers around 150 at any given time.

00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:41.340
-  But everybody that we assess

00:32:41.340 --> 00:32:44.380
-  is receiving court reminder calls to come to court.

00:32:44.380 --> 00:32:46.060
-  That's helpful.

00:32:46.060 --> 00:32:47.260
-  Yeah, yeah.

00:32:47.260 --> 00:32:48.100
-  Okay, great.

00:32:48.100 --> 00:32:51.060
-  And I know that capacity is only so much as well.

00:32:51.060 --> 00:32:53.820
-  I mean, there's only so many people who can do this work

00:32:53.820 --> 00:32:55.580
-  and there's only so many people in the jail

00:32:55.580 --> 00:32:57.100
-  and there's only so many people in the jail

00:32:57.100 --> 00:32:58.340
-  for the first time, you know.

00:32:58.340 --> 00:32:59.180
-  Yes.

00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:00.020
-  Gotcha.

00:33:00.020 --> 00:33:00.840
-  Thank you so much.

00:33:00.840 --> 00:33:01.680
-  Thank you.

00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:02.700
-  Appreciate you.

00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:04.860
-  Please give our thanks to all the staff.

00:33:04.860 --> 00:33:06.060
-  Absolutely, thank you.

00:33:06.060 --> 00:33:13.120
-  We will move on to the next item, please.

00:33:13.120 --> 00:33:17.140
-  Move approval of Bloomington Junk Service Agreement

00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:21.300
-  regarding 8281 North Central Street,

00:33:21.300 --> 00:33:31.060
-  fund name County General fund number 1000 in the amount not to exceed $6,000. I will second that

00:33:31.060 --> 00:33:40.820
-  and with a motion and a second I don't know I assume it's our director planning Ms. Nester

00:33:40.820 --> 00:33:47.300
-  Jelen who's going to be providing this information. Yes. Great. Good morning. Thank you. Good

00:33:47.300 --> 00:33:47.700
-  morning.

00:33:48.580 --> 00:33:53.300
-  Thank you, Commissioner. So the Planning Department did receive an appropriation

00:33:53.300 --> 00:33:59.780
-  from the County Council. This property is part of a litigation case that we have.

00:33:59.780 --> 00:34:08.660
-  We have an interlocal between the town of Steinsville and Monroe County and so during

00:34:08.660 --> 00:34:15.700
-  that time period we had filed this litigation and part of the court order is to go ahead

00:34:15.700 --> 00:34:22.580
-  and give the county the ability to clean the property. So we did receive three estimates for

00:34:22.580 --> 00:34:29.540
-  the work and we went with the lowest of the three estimates that we received. The third estimate

00:34:29.540 --> 00:34:34.820
-  came in after the packet had already gone out but it was a little bit higher than this one here so

00:34:34.820 --> 00:34:43.140
-  we do have an estimate below for the property. I do want to note that we did go out to the

00:34:43.140 --> 00:34:50.500
-  property this morning. This property is located in the floodway and I have just a quick video

00:34:50.500 --> 00:34:57.620
-  from this morning just to give you an idea of right behind the property how quick moving and

00:34:57.620 --> 00:35:05.380
-  how much water is actually flowing directly adjacent to this property. The person that we've

00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:11.300
-  been working with they have been able to clean some parts of the property with two dumpsters that

00:35:11.300 --> 00:35:17.540
-  we've placed. One dumpster was completely full and then we placed a second dumpster but there

00:35:17.540 --> 00:35:24.730
-  is still quite a bit of items on the property that we need to have cleaned up. So with this

00:35:24.730 --> 00:35:25.220
-  estimate

00:35:25.220 --> 00:35:30.820
-  we will be able to clean the property just the items on the ground are the number one priority.

00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:38.500
-  There is a camper in the back of the property that is something that we are going to address

00:35:38.500 --> 00:35:44.820
-  possibly later. We do not have a title for that so to remove that is going to be a challenge that

00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:50.820
-  we are not dealing with at this juncture. So as you'll see in the estimate there is a number for

00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:57.300
-  the removal of the RV but we'd like to prioritize the property cleanup first. So with that I'm

00:35:57.300 --> 00:35:57.620
-  happy

00:35:57.620 --> 00:36:07.220
-  to take any questions. Great thank you so much Mr. Jelen. Commissioner Jones comments or questions?

00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:14.820
-  Yeah I think this is a very needed project. Thank you for taking it on. Commissioner Madeira?

00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:19.220
-  I echo Commissioner Jones. I don't have any other remarks just thank you.

00:36:19.220 --> 00:36:28.740
-  Yeah I appreciate the difficult circumstances surrounding this but this is something that

00:36:28.740 --> 00:36:35.060
-  planning doesn't typically have to get involved in but we have a floodway and the community's

00:36:37.060 --> 00:36:44.120
-  safety is paramount so I appreciate the way that this was managed and handled and that you've

00:36:44.120 --> 00:36:44.740
-  gotten

00:36:44.740 --> 00:36:51.460
-  what appears to be a good estimate. All right let's see if there's any public comment on this item.

00:36:51.460 --> 00:36:54.260
-  You can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:07.940
-  Seeing none Ms. Turner-King would you please call the roll on the Bloomington Junk Service

00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:08.340
-  Agreement

00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:15.540
-  regarding 8281 North Sycamore Street. Commissioner Jones? Yes. Commissioner Madeira? Yes.

00:37:15.540 --> 00:37:16.020
-  Commissioner

00:37:16.020 --> 00:37:24.500
-  Thomas? Yes. Motion passes three zero. Thank you so much. So we have our next item please.

00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:34.260
-  Move approval of ordinance 2025-18 to amend text edits to the county development ordinance.

00:37:34.260 --> 00:37:43.620
-  Second. That was not on mic second. Ms. Nesterjohn would you tell us all about it?

00:37:43.620 --> 00:37:51.620
-  Sure this will be one of two text amendments on the agenda today so I'll try to keep these

00:37:52.660 --> 00:37:59.380
-  succinct. The first one is separated from the second one mainly because this is just

00:37:59.380 --> 00:38:05.460
-  contained to formatting errors, Scrivener errors, things like that. With this being such a large

00:38:05.460 --> 00:38:11.860
-  document after it passed and we've used it for about six months we've notified we've identified

00:38:11.860 --> 00:38:17.540
-  as staffed with some areas that could use improvement such as code reference updates

00:38:17.540 --> 00:38:25.620
-  or usability updates so I have those for you today. I do want to mention that this did receive

00:38:25.620 --> 00:38:31.220
-  approval or a recommendation of a favorable recommendation by the plan commission by a vote

00:38:31.220 --> 00:38:40.740
-  of seven to one and then also on the cover page that starts on page 46 of the packet I have an

00:38:40.740 --> 00:38:47.780
-  exhibit one of the page references if anyone's following along you just need to add 47 to that

00:38:47.780 --> 00:38:55.940
-  since this is within a packet so I will go ahead and start with the first revision so the first

00:38:55.940 --> 00:39:02.420
-  revision is that we are adding in a table in the beginning of the ordinance this is very exciting

00:39:02.420 --> 00:39:08.180
-  to people that like myself who like to track over time how the ordinance changes and when things

00:39:08.180 --> 00:39:08.420
-  were

00:39:08.420 --> 00:39:13.460
-  added in when things were taken out that really helps us as we have to start versioning this

00:39:13.460 --> 00:39:19.380
-  document as people will use prior versions of this and newer versions of this and questions like

00:39:19.380 --> 00:39:19.700
-  this

00:39:19.700 --> 00:39:28.340
-  often come up so we will have this for the future the next change is this is going to be a a nicer

00:39:28.340 --> 00:39:35.060
-  clean version once the clean copy is out but for track changes purposes we're going to have some

00:39:35.060 --> 00:39:40.500
-  more clickable links as people get to the beginning of the ordinance just for usability

00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:45.140
-  these links will take them directly to the two-pager that i'll show in just a minute

00:39:45.140 --> 00:39:55.220
-  and then as far as the two-pager we did have some edits as it relates to the use table so the use

00:39:55.220 --> 00:40:02.020
-  table is really the driving document that says where all the different uses are permitted within

00:40:02.020 --> 00:40:08.100
-  each zone but we created these two pagers because it's a really nice shortened condensed version

00:40:08.100 --> 00:40:15.620
-  that the public can take and read and easily digest okay i'm in this zone here are my uses

00:40:15.620 --> 00:40:21.780
-  and here are my development standards or design standards and just two quick pages it gives them

00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:28.740
-  a lot of really good information we alphabetized this and then also identified some uses that we

00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:36.020
-  had missed in the two pager but that were in the use table so that is just a summary of the two pager

00:40:36.020 --> 00:40:44.260
-  edits additionally we realized that in the last code we had the use kennel and we had standards

00:40:44.260 --> 00:40:50.980
-  for the kennel below but we forgot to actually add just a regular kennel use we do currently

00:40:50.980 --> 00:40:55.940
-  have in the cdo commercial breeding operations but a lot of people do not do breeding of

00:40:56.900 --> 00:41:02.660
-  dogs and cats so this kennel use is going to be helpful to have that back into the ordinance

00:41:02.660 --> 00:41:10.420
-  and this these use permissions are actually the same as the prior code so this is what we wanted

00:41:10.420 --> 00:41:20.260
-  to have in there we just missed it the next change is we did some alphabetizing this is again for

00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:26.740
-  usability so green means that the text was moved it does not mean that we added text so

00:41:26.740 --> 00:41:31.780
-  if people are following along all of the green text that struck out means it moved just to be

00:41:31.780 --> 00:41:40.420
-  alphabetized okay and then as we're using the document we do have four places to see definitions

00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:47.620
-  the first is adult oriented business so we added to know where you're at in the definitions section

00:41:47.620 --> 00:41:55.060
-  we added the green text to identify the chapter you're in we did the same for airport and then we

00:41:55.060 --> 00:42:01.620
-  did the same as well for floodplain and this is just so that if anyone is going through the text

00:42:01.620 --> 00:42:06.820
-  and they are looking at a definition in a certain chapter sometimes definitions are very specific

00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:11.940
-  to that chapter so if you're not in the airport noise and sensitive overlay you would not use

00:42:11.940 --> 00:42:17.620
-  those definitions you would use the definitions in chapter 850 so this helps people identify

00:42:17.620 --> 00:42:30.500
-  where they are at in the code this section in chapter 813 does it is red text i want to spend

00:42:30.500 --> 00:42:36.260
-  a bit of time on this so we previously had language for having people that want to combine their

00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:36.500
-  lots

00:42:36.500 --> 00:42:42.260
-  for planning and zoning purposes the reason being sometimes people have two lots that they would

00:42:42.260 --> 00:42:42.580
-  like

00:42:42.580 --> 00:42:49.060
-  to build over the lot line of the two this gives them a very easy and quick process without a

00:42:49.060 --> 00:42:54.900
-  planning procedure to combine those lots and that language has been used pretty widely

00:42:54.900 --> 00:42:59.300
-  by title companies and attorneys and private landowners so we would like to have that added

00:42:59.300 --> 00:43:07.060
-  back in we give people back that language and added option we also added number six here for

00:43:07.060 --> 00:43:13.940
-  setback relief for people that were in plotted subdivisions so people that plotted their lots

00:43:13.940 --> 00:43:20.580
-  prior to the cdo and then had their zoning change we wanted to make sure that since the plat had

00:43:20.580 --> 00:43:25.860
-  already received approval likely through a plan commission or plat committee which is a subcommittee

00:43:25.860 --> 00:43:31.700
-  of the plan commission that we could still recognize those plotted setbacks because some

00:43:31.700 --> 00:43:36.520
-  developments are already halfway built out and to change the setback halfway through the

00:43:36.520 --> 00:43:37.300
-  development

00:43:37.300 --> 00:43:42.900
-  we'll change the look and the buildable area really of the rest of the land that they weren't

00:43:42.900 --> 00:43:49.300
-  maybe anticipating so this allows people to follow the plotted setbacks as opposed to the zoning

00:43:49.300 --> 00:43:49.780
-  setback

00:43:49.780 --> 00:43:59.460
-  okay and then throughout the code you'll see that there are code reference corrections these are

00:43:59.460 --> 00:44:00.180
-  just

00:44:00.180 --> 00:44:08.500
-  Scrivener errors that we want to point out we also accidentally omitted three native trees so we're

00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:16.680
-  adding those back into the ordinance formatting we just had some corrections here to point people

00:44:16.680 --> 00:44:16.820
-  to

00:44:16.820 --> 00:44:25.380
-  the right location these are changing to a b and c for clarity and chapter for the environmental

00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:33.940
-  constraints overlay we had the old text of 125 feet this is listed correctly in the two pager as

00:44:33.940 --> 00:44:41.860
-  200 feet but it was missed in this chapter so we are creating clarity and correcting the Scrivener's

00:44:41.860 --> 00:44:49.620
-  error the reason this went from 125 to 200 feet is actually because the state of Indiana requires

00:44:49.620 --> 00:44:55.940
-  this setback for any septic system so we're matching what the state says for separation distances

00:44:55.940 --> 00:44:59.620
-  from lakes for septic systems and we believe that was a good change

00:44:59.620 --> 00:45:10.580
-  and then this is again some code reference changes and these will all be clickable and linked

00:45:10.580 --> 00:45:18.340
-  by the time we upload a clean copy and then this section here we did point people from the

00:45:18.340 --> 00:45:24.180
-  subdivision requirement to this section of the landscaping ordinance for street trees

00:45:24.180 --> 00:45:30.500
-  our assistant director worked closely with Purdue Extension to come up with a standard that makes

00:45:30.500 --> 00:45:36.420
-  sense for the rural areas in the case that they're not in an area that otherwise requires street

00:45:36.420 --> 00:45:44.660
-  trees for subdivision and that allows people to preserve a certain area of tree canopy in return

00:45:45.220 --> 00:45:52.180
-  instead of planting new trees so we're having a standardized area for people to be able to preserve

00:45:52.180 --> 00:45:58.180
-  trees that they are able to meet the standard in the rural areas one when subdividing

00:45:58.180 --> 00:46:08.420
-  the next change is in regard to the table that requires a certain level of plot plan

00:46:08.420 --> 00:46:14.580
-  certified plot plan or site plan the biggest change here is that for residential storage

00:46:14.580 --> 00:46:20.180
-  structure which is a accessory structure before you put any other development on the property

00:46:20.180 --> 00:46:26.740
-  it was requiring a certified plot plan where we are now moving that back to just requiring

00:46:26.740 --> 00:46:32.420
-  a scaled plot plan which is the way it was in the prior ordinance we're finding that a lot of

00:46:32.420 --> 00:46:33.140
-  people

00:46:33.140 --> 00:46:39.380
-  at the time of residential storage structure may not have a intent or plan to immediately

00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:46.500
-  develop the property with a single-family home and so asking for a certified plan at this juncture

00:46:46.500 --> 00:46:52.980
-  has been difficult for some people and not necessarily required

00:46:52.980 --> 00:47:02.740
-  the next change that we have is in regard to removing the hearing officer from the code

00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:11.220
-  this was something that was identified under the CDO amendments we either needed to better identify

00:47:11.220 --> 00:47:17.220
-  when cases go to a hearing officer or remove it from the ordinance we had the hearing officer

00:47:17.220 --> 00:47:22.660
-  in the prior ordinance and it was carried into this ordinance but we still didn't have good

00:47:22.660 --> 00:47:28.180
-  guidance on when that hearing officer could hear certain cases instead of say the board of zoning

00:47:28.180 --> 00:47:35.300
-  appeals with it being in there and us not using it and it not having great guidance we decided

00:47:35.300 --> 00:47:39.860
-  that with the planned commission's guidance we would go ahead and remove this and if and when

00:47:39.860 --> 00:47:46.980
-  we would like to add that back in we would do so in a holistic way and try and come up with a

00:47:46.980 --> 00:47:53.300
-  process at that time so we removed that throughout the ordinance in a few places

00:47:55.700 --> 00:48:02.420
-  and then last but not least we just did some definitional changes these are just for clarity

00:48:02.420 --> 00:48:08.420
-  really not substantial definition changes they were mainly to residential storage structure

00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:17.060
-  and also the definition for planning director just because it was referred elsewhere in other ways

00:48:17.060 --> 00:48:25.780
-  and we just wanted absolute clarity so with that I think this is my last change I can take any

00:48:25.780 --> 00:48:26.260
-  questions

00:48:26.260 --> 00:48:38.580
-  right thank you so much as with any massive book of code there are always things you find

00:48:38.580 --> 00:48:44.100
-  after the fact or that come to light as things are implemented that need to be addressed so I

00:48:44.100 --> 00:48:44.740
-  appreciate

00:48:44.740 --> 00:48:54.180
-  the attention to detail here Commissioner Jones comments or questions just that this looks like

00:48:54.180 --> 00:49:00.180
-  it was a pretty thorough going over and I hope that it'll last for a while

00:49:00.180 --> 00:49:08.500
-  Commissioner Maduro comments or questions again I really appreciate all this thorough work that

00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:17.940
-  Darren Scrivener he makes so much work for us yeah yeah Scrivener is sloppy um yeah so uh let's see

00:49:17.940 --> 00:49:27.300
-  if there's any uh public comment as with a planning ordinance we will proceed as we usually do um

00:49:27.300 --> 00:49:33.140
-  anybody wish to speak in favor of this petition you may come to the podium in and at you hill room

00:49:33.140 --> 00:49:33.220
-  or

00:49:33.220 --> 00:49:41.060
-  raise your hand if anybody wish to speak in opposition to this petition please come to the

00:49:41.060 --> 00:49:52.820
-  podium or raise your hand on teams the other general comment questions any comment from the board

00:49:52.820 --> 00:50:02.500
-  yeah okay I don't see any other public comments so uh Ms. Turner King would you please call the

00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:12.820
-  roll on ordinance 2025-18 Commissioner Jones yes Commissioner Madera yes Commissioner Thomas

00:50:12.820 --> 00:50:27.140
-  yes motion passes 3-0 thank you so much um next item please move approval of ordinance 2025-19

00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:34.660
-  to amend text edits to the county development ordinance regarding impervious coverage exceptions

00:50:34.660 --> 00:50:44.260
-  and calculations second with that motion and second uh Director Nester Jelen if you would

00:50:44.260 --> 00:50:53.300
-  please walk us through this one there so this is a text amendment specific to the impervious cover

00:50:53.300 --> 00:50:59.540
-  calculations so unlike the first text amendment that we just saw this is going to be edits that

00:50:59.540 --> 00:51:05.700
-  are content-based or things that have been for discussion by the planned commission and planning

00:51:05.700 --> 00:51:13.300
-  staff and now the commissioners so this is uh this was recommended a favorable approval by the plan

00:51:13.300 --> 00:51:22.420
-  commission on May 20th they forward it to you with a recommendation of 6-0 so just a little bit of

00:51:22.420 --> 00:51:30.580
-  background prior to the CDO we had some open space requirements and also we had something that was

00:51:30.580 --> 00:51:38.310
-  called building coverage maximum so we consolidated that under the CDO and streamlined it across

00:51:38.310 --> 00:51:38.420
-  all

00:51:38.420 --> 00:51:45.380
-  zones to just be an impervious cover maximum instead of just regulating rooftops or regulating

00:51:45.380 --> 00:51:51.380
-  open space we just regulated the impervious surface I have in here some changes to that

00:51:51.380 --> 00:51:56.900
-  definition but basically it's anything that slows the passage of water through it or blocks the

00:51:56.900 --> 00:52:03.220
-  passage of water through it so we're trying to with this text under the CDO encourage more compact

00:52:03.220 --> 00:52:09.140
-  development what we found through the adoption of the CDO is that there are already a lot of

00:52:09.140 --> 00:52:16.420
-  non-conformities existing and so if anyone wanted to build a shed or a pool or a garage or anything

00:52:16.420 --> 00:52:22.100
-  additional on their already developed property they are running into needing a variance so we've

00:52:22.100 --> 00:52:29.140
-  updated the numbers and also added some exceptions we also went through the ordinance review

00:52:29.140 --> 00:52:29.540
-  committee

00:52:29.540 --> 00:52:37.300
-  and plan commission process and we were asked to provide some visuals and some data regarding some

00:52:37.300 --> 00:52:43.940
-  of the properties that were not meeting their impervious cover and then also ones that even

00:52:43.940 --> 00:52:49.060
-  if this passes what still would not meet the impervious cover maximums so what we've put

00:52:49.060 --> 00:52:57.540
-  together is a table of different properties the ones that are in green would be conforming they

00:52:57.540 --> 00:53:03.780
-  would meet the requirements under the new text amendment that is before you today the ones that

00:53:03.780 --> 00:53:10.820
-  are in yellow would potentially not be able to be developed from scratch if they were to be under

00:53:10.820 --> 00:53:16.440
-  the new ordinance now i put them in yellow because under the exceptions that you'll see we are

00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:16.740
-  going

00:53:16.740 --> 00:53:26.020
-  to basically allow we're going to grandfather if you will prior driveways that were built before

00:53:26.020 --> 00:53:34.500
-  march 11 2024 which is our last date of last flyover imagery or we're also going to allow

00:53:34.500 --> 00:53:39.780
-  for driveways that were that had already received approval before december 19th which is the day

00:53:39.780 --> 00:53:46.500
-  after the cdo passed so we are going to see this being utilized mainly for new development so i

00:53:46.500 --> 00:53:46.660
-  will

00:53:46.660 --> 00:53:54.500
-  go through a few pictures here of some examples so the yellow property for instance if developed

00:53:54.500 --> 00:54:01.860
-  newly we would encourage them to possibly build up closer to the road and possibly have

00:54:01.860 --> 00:54:08.360
-  a shorter driveway possibly front-loaded garage or a different design of the garage in relation to

00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:08.500
-  the

00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:15.780
-  house to reduce this amount of impervious but since it was existing before march 11 2024 and

00:54:15.780 --> 00:54:22.180
-  december 19 2024 we would not count the driveway as part of their impervious we would only count

00:54:22.180 --> 00:54:28.340
-  the actual structures on the screen so they would be able to add additional impervious to this lot

00:54:28.340 --> 00:54:35.460
-  because we would not be counting this in this example in this example as well i have some

00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:41.780
-  calculations over to the right and also to keep in mind we lower the threshold when they're in a

00:54:41.780 --> 00:54:46.980
-  critical watershed so that's also hindering a few of these properties because of the critical

00:54:46.980 --> 00:54:55.460
-  watershed nature and then we do have an exception for driveways that will go to other properties

00:54:55.460 --> 00:55:02.500
-  such as like easements along their property to gain access to another property but we did not

00:55:02.500 --> 00:55:08.500
-  build in an exception for what we would call a flag lot where the driveway is extending through

00:55:08.500 --> 00:55:14.340
-  their personal property and stops at their property so this is something that if built new we would

00:55:14.340 --> 00:55:19.700
-  still likely need to go through the variance process and if this still becomes an issue we

00:55:19.700 --> 00:55:26.900
-  will keep the plan commission updated and see about further text changes and this is another

00:55:26.900 --> 00:55:34.260
-  example here this is near Lake Monroe and it has quite a bit of driveway area and then what they

00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:39.860
-  would like to add to the property was fairly significant so it was something that would not

00:55:39.860 --> 00:55:48.100
-  if built completely new today would not meet the standard and then I have an example of a property

00:55:48.100 --> 00:55:53.540
-  camp rock out by Lake Lemon because of the number of driveways in the residential zone

00:55:53.540 --> 00:55:54.900
-  unfortunately

00:55:54.900 --> 00:56:00.020
-  did not meet the impervious requirement so this is something that we did not necessarily

00:56:00.020 --> 00:56:05.940
-  account for but if their driveways are already in they're going to be allowed to continue and

00:56:05.940 --> 00:56:12.660
-  add more structures but they also received a variance prior and then this is another example

00:56:12.660 --> 00:56:20.740
-  in yellow here with existing and then they also were received a variance to build a

00:56:21.300 --> 00:56:26.100
-  another garage at this location and extend the driveway so just to give you an idea

00:56:26.100 --> 00:56:31.940
-  and then just a few I'll roll through these pretty quickly some photos of properties that would be

00:56:31.940 --> 00:56:40.260
-  able to be built and meet the maximum pervious so some areas and then I also added additional

00:56:40.260 --> 00:56:45.700
-  area that could also be added and this is with the text change that these would be allowed to

00:56:48.020 --> 00:56:54.500
-  be conforming so with that I'm going to go through the text amendment changes

00:56:54.500 --> 00:57:02.340
-  so the first zone that we did some changes to was the agricultural residential zone district

00:57:02.340 --> 00:57:08.580
-  which is the two and a half acre minimum requirement and what we did to try to solve

00:57:08.580 --> 00:57:16.100
-  some of the issues that we are seeing is break this out a little bit further by acreage so zero

00:57:16.100 --> 00:57:24.340
-  to 2.5 acres they have both a increased percentage it's going from 20 percent to 25 percent and it's

00:57:24.340 --> 00:57:32.340
-  going from 20,000 square feet to 25,000 square feet of impervious and then that number is slightly

00:57:32.340 --> 00:57:42.180
-  lower in the critical watershed once you are at beyond 2.5 acres we broke it up into 2.51 to 5

00:57:42.180 --> 00:57:50.260
-  acres and then 5.01 to 20 acres and then 20.01 acres or greater so just as a context for people

00:57:50.260 --> 00:58:01.220
-  43,560 square feet is an acre so this is quite a bit of impervious cover for an entire site

00:58:01.220 --> 00:58:06.900
-  but understanding people have very large pieces of property so we'll continue to update people

00:58:07.860 --> 00:58:13.140
-  and as well we exclude agricultural buildings from this requirement so if you're building

00:58:13.140 --> 00:58:18.500
-  agricultural structures we are not counting that against this number because we understand those

00:58:18.500 --> 00:58:26.900
-  have to be larger so we did something very similar for the cdr district and then for the forest

00:58:26.900 --> 00:58:33.060
-  reserve or forest residential five district those acreages are a minimum of five acres so

00:58:33.060 --> 00:58:39.700
-  we broke this out only into what would be three general categories for if you kept the maximum

00:58:39.700 --> 00:58:44.660
-  for critical watershed so one less category because they start at five

00:58:44.660 --> 00:58:52.100
-  and we matched sort of what we did for the prior but met it to more like five acres at the start

00:58:52.100 --> 00:59:01.300
-  and then the cdr is identical to the agr so i won't spend too much time on that

00:59:01.940 --> 00:59:07.540
-  and then we did make some changes to the residential one district this has been one that

00:59:07.540 --> 00:59:13.860
-  we've seen a lot of variances to the standard especially because of the critical watershed

00:59:13.860 --> 00:59:20.340
-  mapping being closer to a lot of the areas surrounding the city of Bloomington in the town

00:59:20.340 --> 00:59:26.660
-  of Ellesville and people tend to have smaller lot sizes so going with that whichever is less

00:59:27.140 --> 00:59:33.940
-  is less sometimes can make it so that people do need a variance but we've increased this percentage

00:59:33.940 --> 00:59:41.060
-  on both or on under a critical watershed we've increased this from 10 to 30 percent

00:59:41.060 --> 00:59:46.580
-  because without a critical watershed it's 50 and then we've also increased the square footage

00:59:46.580 --> 00:59:54.100
-  depending on how much acreage they have to see whichever they can go with so that is the standard

00:59:54.100 --> 01:00:05.940
-  here then we did add the exception standard for all of the zones so you will see that as a footnote

01:00:05.940 --> 01:00:12.100
-  there was one change to community development as well just slightly increased so as you go

01:00:12.100 --> 01:00:17.140
-  through you may see some amendments to the numbers and we did work closely with the

01:00:17.140 --> 01:00:23.060
-  stormwater program manager and the drainage board to come up with some of these figures

01:00:23.620 --> 01:00:29.620
-  i would like to go down to chapter 813 which has some of the exceptions that i've been

01:00:29.620 --> 01:00:36.500
-  talking a little bit about so we added a purpose statement which is important to have in there for

01:00:36.500 --> 01:00:41.380
-  people that aren't sure why there is a maximum impervious cover and we want to remind people

01:00:41.380 --> 01:00:46.660
-  that the purpose of this standard is to try to encourage compact development and therefore

01:00:46.660 --> 01:00:52.580
-  reduce overall impervious cover, implement open space requirements on individual lots, and

01:00:52.580 --> 01:00:58.580
-  possibly reduce negative stormwater impacts. We want to reduce erosion related to excessive sheet

01:00:58.580 --> 01:01:05.140
-  well runoff as a result of greater impervious cover, reduce ponding of water, reduce impacts to

01:01:05.140 --> 01:01:10.260
-  adjacent neighbors, protect critical watershed areas and areas prone to flooding, and increase

01:01:10.260 --> 01:01:16.900
-  flash flooding as a result of larger impervious cover. I also want to just explain for just the

01:01:16.900 --> 01:01:22.740
-  public's edification, critical watershed is not the same as floodplain, so some people are in a

01:01:22.740 --> 01:01:28.580
-  critical watershed but their elevation is quite high but what that means is that that area is kind

01:01:28.580 --> 01:01:33.620
-  of all tied together right even though your elevation is high what you do on your property

01:01:33.620 --> 01:01:39.140
-  is still going to impact your neighbors in that same watershed and some of our water quality

01:01:39.140 --> 01:01:45.700
-  and some of our watersheds are experiencing flooding problems so it is important to kind

01:01:45.700 --> 01:01:51.540
-  of bring it back to why this is an important standard we do want to acknowledge that with

01:01:51.540 --> 01:01:58.260
-  increased rain events more severe rain events in shorter time periods having more impervious cover

01:01:58.260 --> 01:02:03.220
-  leaves less area for the water to drain and get away from structures property and people

01:02:04.980 --> 01:02:10.980
-  but we have built in some exceptions like I mentioned from the CDO passage for those existing

01:02:10.980 --> 01:02:17.620
-  built out lots the first is that driveways in existence on March 11th 2024 would be exempt

01:02:17.620 --> 01:02:24.500
-  in addition driveways that had proper approval for installation prior to December 19 2024 are

01:02:24.500 --> 01:02:24.900
-  exempt

01:02:24.900 --> 01:02:31.700
-  secondly driveways within access and utility easements or utilized to access another property

01:02:31.700 --> 01:02:38.180
-  shall be considered exempt and thirdly sidewalks within private property that are for public use

01:02:38.180 --> 01:02:46.260
-  are exempt for impervious cover and with that I can take any question all right thank you so much

01:02:46.260 --> 01:02:52.580
-  I know there's a lot of material there and it took a great deal of time and energy to get to where

01:02:52.580 --> 01:03:01.620
-  we are now comments or questions Commissioner Jones yes well this is one of these really

01:03:01.780 --> 01:03:11.220
-  tough problems impervious surfaces really do have a big impact on the community as a whole

01:03:11.220 --> 01:03:20.340
-  especially given what's happening with the weather lately at the same time I happen to have a very

01:03:20.340 --> 01:03:28.340
-  very long driveway and I'm not sure I would have been allowed to have a house so I this was way

01:03:28.340 --> 01:03:37.460
-  prior to any of this but I I do appreciate the fact that for people who already got themselves

01:03:37.460 --> 01:03:47.780
-  into that position there are they their situation is being taken into account absolutely yeah and I

01:03:47.780 --> 01:03:54.740
-  yeah pre-existing non-conforming yes yes Commissioner Madure comments or questions

01:03:56.020 --> 01:04:00.180
-  no I appreciate all the detail and the hard work I've been attending the Planning Commission

01:04:00.180 --> 01:04:06.580
-  meetings and reviewing those actually several times because this is very complex and I also

01:04:06.580 --> 01:04:12.020
-  appreciate why these changes are necessary and I do think they will solve a lot of problems and

01:04:12.020 --> 01:04:20.340
-  save a lot of effort so thank you very much all right thank you so much and the Planning Commission

01:04:20.340 --> 01:04:32.100
-  did support this petition as well correct yes they forwarded a six to zero vote with favorable

01:04:32.100 --> 01:04:41.860
-  recommendation six zero thank you yeah thanks all right let's see if there's any one who wishes to

01:04:41.860 --> 01:04:47.620
-  speak in favor of this petition you can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium

01:04:47.620 --> 01:04:59.060
-  raise

01:04:59.060 --> 01:05:06.260
-  uh surveyor Enright Randolph

01:05:06.260 --> 01:05:16.820
-  yes uh I'm having a little bit of a glitchy uh connection so I apologize for that hopefully

01:05:16.820 --> 01:05:23.460
-  I'm coming in clearly um I just wanted to say serving on the stormwater management board drainage

01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:32.820
-  board and plan commission that I am in in support of this and I hope that it is approved and asking

01:05:32.820 --> 01:05:38.580
-  for your approval I also want to say I think this is an incremental step of getting it right and

01:05:39.380 --> 01:05:49.220
-  currently what we have in in place is a more strenuous uh burdensome uh provision with our

01:05:49.220 --> 01:05:56.020
-  impervious surface max and this is going to give relief where it's needed um I do know from uh I

01:05:56.020 --> 01:06:00.420
-  wasn't able to attend the plan commission so I would have voted in favor so that could have been

01:06:00.420 --> 01:06:07.620
-  a 7-0 but it was discussed about how we need to continue to look at this and you know bring it

01:06:07.620 --> 01:06:14.420
-  back as needed so I think this is a great first step and again just uh asking for you to approve

01:06:14.420 --> 01:06:27.220
-  that this uh amendment tonight thank you all right um thank you I don't see any other raised

01:06:27.220 --> 01:06:33.860
-  does anybody wish to speak in opposition to this petition may raise your hand on teams or come to

01:06:33.860 --> 01:06:45.940
-  the podium any follow-up commentary uh from my colleagues on the board

01:06:45.940 --> 01:06:56.900
-  okay all right um Ms. Turner King would you please call the roll on ordinance 2025-19

01:06:57.620 --> 01:07:05.060
-  commissioner jones yes commissioner madera yes commissioner thomas yes motion passes three zero

01:07:05.060 --> 01:07:13.540
-  thank you so much thank you uh Ms. Nestor-Gelan appreciate you all right next uh item on our

01:07:13.540 --> 01:07:24.340
-  agenda please move approval of ordinance 2025-16 west gate on third pud outline plan amendment

01:07:24.340 --> 01:07:24.660
-  three

01:07:25.460 --> 01:07:32.100
-  second all right we have a motion and we have a second Ms. Cresulius

01:07:32.100 --> 01:07:40.260
-  good morning commissioners this is the uh proposed amendment three to west gate on third it is

01:07:40.260 --> 01:07:48.420
-  currently in development as a multifamily residential uh pud um you have seen this

01:07:48.420 --> 01:07:54.740
-  you saw this twice last year for amendments to their ordinance phasing plan uh introduce a phasing

01:07:54.740 --> 01:08:01.940
-  plan as shown on screen and also a phasing narrative so this amendment includes proposed

01:08:01.940 --> 01:08:11.300
-  changes to the pud phasing plan narrative so there are no proposed changes to the uses or the

01:08:11.300 --> 01:08:11.940
-  design

01:08:11.940 --> 01:08:17.300
-  that have been established in within the pud ordinance but with it with that ordinance we

01:08:17.300 --> 01:08:23.700
-  have the phasing plan and the narrative the narrative describes what type of improvements

01:08:23.700 --> 01:08:29.380
-  across the site whether it is uh final stabilization of grade on the site

01:08:29.380 --> 01:08:38.260
-  whether a building is completed sidewalks are installed landscaping installed or ponds finished

01:08:38.260 --> 01:08:45.140
-  it describes in which of the phase um what has to be done at what time in order for

01:08:45.140 --> 01:08:52.500
-  planning to issue a conditional land use certificate that allows them to seek their

01:08:52.500 --> 01:08:57.620
-  certificate of occupancy for the structures from the building department assuming the building

01:08:57.620 --> 01:09:05.620
-  department has is satisfied with their inspections and is able to do so a conditional land use

01:09:05.620 --> 01:09:11.380
-  certificate means that there might be some final improvements that need to be completed and we

01:09:11.380 --> 01:09:18.500
-  normally set a timeline for that so currently the site they have received a conditional land use

01:09:18.500 --> 01:09:28.020
-  certificate or luc for phase one and two they have applied for phases three and four this amendment

01:09:28.020 --> 01:09:35.060
-  was brought up by phase three so within these phases there are a total of eight

01:09:35.060 --> 01:09:42.340
-  stormwater bioretention ponds on site which is quite a bit the phases not is described within

01:09:42.340 --> 01:09:46.900
-  the narrative is not everything is always complete when you go to get a conditional land use

01:09:46.900 --> 01:09:47.540
-  certificate

01:09:47.540 --> 01:09:53.860
-  because there are still active construction on different portions of the property so it's very

01:09:53.860 --> 01:10:00.980
-  detailed and of course a project manager manager and the petitioner is dealing with a lot of moving

01:10:00.980 --> 01:10:08.580
-  blocks on site so when they started to approach the time for a conditional luc for phase three

01:10:09.700 --> 01:10:18.100
-  they had encountered some issues with a specific line within the phasing narrative so that's on

01:10:18.100 --> 01:10:25.060
-  screen it's point number three so it discusses that landscaping permanent stabilization is

01:10:25.060 --> 01:10:31.300
-  completed in phases one two and three so side note within the narrative there are kind of what

01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:37.220
-  we would call checkpoints throughout the document that so for example in phase three we got to this

01:10:37.220 --> 01:10:42.340
-  point where in the prior phases they then have to complete and make sure that landscaping permanent

01:10:42.340 --> 01:10:48.100
-  stabilization stabilization is done within the same sentence that it states that pond one

01:10:48.100 --> 01:10:56.740
-  three a and four are fully finished to do this is quite an extensive process that does require

01:10:58.340 --> 01:11:06.980
-  a week to multiple weeks of very dry weather so with this very rainy spring they

01:11:06.980 --> 01:11:13.940
-  have had issues with being able to complete these ponds so they are they are currently

01:11:13.940 --> 01:11:21.460
-  waiting on this on this amendment in order to receive the conditional luc i was visited the

01:11:21.460 --> 01:11:27.940
-  site yesterday and it it looks ready for it there's still maybe some landscaping areas that aren't

01:11:27.940 --> 01:11:36.090
-  quite perfect but this site looks the phase looks really good so on screen is the phasing plan

01:11:36.090 --> 01:11:36.260
-  where

01:11:36.260 --> 01:11:48.420
-  i have circled pond four one and three a they see on my next slide here as they were coming up

01:11:48.420 --> 01:11:54.100
-  against the the extremely wet weather of this spring you know they provided some information

01:11:54.100 --> 01:12:00.340
-  it was a definitely an education session for me learning about stormwater and how these large

01:12:00.340 --> 01:12:07.380
-  ponds get installed and how much time is really needed so since this amendment has been applied

01:12:07.380 --> 01:12:14.340
-  for and has gone through the process they've actually been able to make quite a bit of

01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:20.180
-  advancement on some of the ponds so on screen is a couple of status photos pond one has been

01:12:20.180 --> 01:12:21.140
-  completed

01:12:21.140 --> 01:12:25.780
-  and pond three well pond three a has been fully completed pond one has soils

01:12:25.780 --> 01:12:33.060
-  drains installed and soils stabilized and we'll be waiting for landscaping and if that's it's a

01:12:33.060 --> 01:12:33.380
-  work

01:12:33.380 --> 01:12:37.780
-  in progress so i know the petitioner might be able to clarify more but they are actively working to

01:12:37.780 --> 01:12:46.260
-  complete these ponds as weather allows so what they are proposing within their phasing narrative

01:12:46.260 --> 01:12:54.340
-  is to include a sentence that the planning director worked with county legal on which gives

01:12:54.340 --> 01:12:59.460
-  us some flexibility when it's added into the narrative at certain points throughout the

01:12:59.460 --> 01:13:07.300
-  document so if they do run into poor weather they might still be able to continue working and get

01:13:07.300 --> 01:13:14.260
-  conditional luc and it allows some discretion for what is referred to as the administrator which is

01:13:14.260 --> 01:13:21.300
-  the planning director to be able to issue a conditional luc so that language is it has been

01:13:21.300 --> 01:13:26.660
-  added to a few points it states however if weather conditions could prevent these actions from

01:13:26.660 --> 01:13:33.140
-  occurring prior to the completion of phase number the following shall apply as if the proposed use

01:13:33.140 --> 01:13:38.100
-  building or other structure is in conformity with the provisions of this ordinance except for final

01:13:38.100 --> 01:13:42.820
-  landscaping and final stormwater infrastructure improvements a conditional land use certificate

01:13:42.820 --> 01:13:47.540
-  may be granted at the administrator's discretion that the conditional land use certificate shall

01:13:47.540 --> 01:13:53.220
-  be valid for no longer than six months but may be renewed for an additional six month period at the

01:13:53.220 --> 01:14:00.660
-  administrator's discretion this few sentences have been added into a few points within the

01:14:00.660 --> 01:14:01.540
-  narrative

01:14:01.540 --> 01:14:09.220
-  it has been added for where it was requiring pond completion it has been added for final surface

01:14:09.220 --> 01:14:15.220
-  asphalt and that is because they currently the petitioner is thinking right now that some of

01:14:15.220 --> 01:14:22.580
-  the final phases may be approaching a land use certificate during winter months of which the

01:14:22.580 --> 01:14:30.100
-  asphalt plants would be closed it was also added for final completion of the fountain and fountain

01:14:30.100 --> 01:14:39.780
-  walkway that are adjacent to the greenway so a little assurance for planning in the county

01:14:39.780 --> 01:14:46.660
-  on this site is that the final luc issuance would not be able to be issued it would be after phase

01:14:46.660 --> 01:14:55.300
-  eight until all of the improvements have been completed also it would include that we recommended

01:14:55.300 --> 01:15:02.660
-  that the letter of credit release that's held by planning for stormwater infrastructure it has to

01:15:02.660 --> 01:15:07.860
-  be installed to the required plans and approved by stormwater so if there were any issues we could

01:15:07.860 --> 01:15:15.300
-  hold the letter of credit that we have on file and of course a lot of this is the stormwater realm

01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:20.100
-  and is revolving around the completion of these ponds the stormwater program is in support of

01:15:20.100 --> 01:15:25.460
-  these proposed changes and they've been sympathetic with with the weather this year as it has been

01:15:25.460 --> 01:15:25.620
-  so

01:15:25.620 --> 01:15:31.780
-  wet so the planning commission heard this on may 20th this year and they did forward a positive

01:15:31.780 --> 01:15:38.020
-  recommendation by a vote of six to zero and of course as we like to include 90 days from that

01:15:38.020 --> 01:15:44.650
-  planning commission hearing is august 18th because of how quickly the petitioner and the the

01:15:44.650 --> 01:15:44.980
-  project

01:15:44.980 --> 01:15:51.540
-  is moving the petitioner stated yesterday on site that they are completing a building every one to

01:15:51.540 --> 01:15:59.540
-  two months i am sure we will not be running into that august date so staff's recommendation for

01:15:59.540 --> 01:16:06.660
-  ordinance 2025-16 is that we recommend approving the plan unit outline plan amendment number six

01:16:06.660 --> 01:16:19.620
-  request for westgate on third beauty all right thank you so much go ahead all right was there

01:16:19.620 --> 01:16:28.100
-  anything else that is it thank you okay um all right and um this uh was approved by the

01:16:28.100 --> 01:16:32.980
-  planning commission by vote of six zero um commissioner jones do you have comments or

01:16:32.980 --> 01:16:40.020
-  questions for miss chrisilius yes i'm just wondering since a number of buildings are being

01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:47.940
-  completed which of course means there's a fair amount of impervious surface going in um and we

01:16:47.940 --> 01:16:56.420
-  are getting all of this rain is this causing any problems for other residents in the area or

01:16:56.420 --> 01:17:03.380
-  businesses or anything or roads um is the flooding able to be contained on the project

01:17:03.380 --> 01:17:11.060
-  i have not heard any complaints so all of the stormwater runoff all of the stormwater on site

01:17:11.060 --> 01:17:17.380
-  is going to be directed to one of or multiple of those eight ponds that are on site so even

01:17:17.380 --> 01:17:25.380
-  though the ponds are not completed um they are holding water and working as they should under

01:17:25.380 --> 01:17:31.140
-  the guidance of stormwater for water that is hitting the site during construction but in order

01:17:31.140 --> 01:17:38.500
-  to complete them it requires some improvements that would take dry weather to install right

01:17:38.500 --> 01:17:46.260
-  yes and and i certainly understand the problems with the weather uh commissioner madira

01:17:46.260 --> 01:17:54.260
-  sorry i was on mute i have no comments again i appreciate the thoughtful explanation

01:17:54.260 --> 01:18:01.940
-  uh this all makes sense to me uh and i know that during our planning commission uh hearing on this

01:18:01.940 --> 01:18:19.140
-  that um we had um questions from miss ridge um about park square drive and paving and

01:18:19.140 --> 01:18:23.620
-  ensuring that everything works together and i think that her question was addressed but i would

01:18:23.620 --> 01:18:32.740
-  just ask that you um maintain communication between the petitioner and um miss ridge as

01:18:32.740 --> 01:18:37.780
-  they're trying to move forward with their paving projects thank you all right let's see if there's

01:18:37.780 --> 01:18:42.900
-  any public comment on this item you can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium

01:18:50.020 --> 01:18:56.180
-  i want to wish us to speak in favor of this petition is a petitioner or petitioner's

01:18:56.180 --> 01:19:02.500
-  representative here i didn't ask that question sorry ah did you want to speak i'm so sorry

01:19:02.500 --> 01:19:08.660
-  i went out of our protocol okay thank you all right sorry the last two items didn't have a

01:19:08.660 --> 01:19:12.500
-  petitioner so i got out of the habit very quickly thank you so much for being here

01:19:12.500 --> 01:19:19.060
-  um all right so uh is anybody wish to speak in opposition to this petition you can raise

01:19:19.060 --> 01:19:20.980
-  your hand on teams or come to the podium

01:19:20.980 --> 01:19:34.020
-  all right seeing none um any further comments or questions for my colleagues

01:19:34.020 --> 01:19:41.700
-  no okay all right uh miss turner king would you please call the rule on ordinance 2025-16

01:19:42.820 --> 01:19:50.900
-  commissioner jones yes commissioner monera yes commissioner thomas yes motion passes three zero

01:19:50.900 --> 01:19:57.300
-  all right thank you i was going to have an identity crisis all right uh we don't have

01:19:57.300 --> 01:20:02.660
-  any appointments today um i don't think um miss turner king is there anything for work session

01:20:02.660 --> 01:20:10.980
-  to my knowledge no okay yeah there isn't anything on the agenda now i just am giving you that

01:20:11.620 --> 01:20:16.340
-  one second opening to throw something on our agenda all right great thank you uh so

01:20:16.340 --> 01:20:28.580
-  so um do you have a few announcements um today um we did um all three of us attended the

01:20:28.580 --> 01:20:38.580
-  convention center groundbreaking um and it was a great event it was a beautiful day it was hot

01:20:38.580 --> 01:20:45.460
-  sunny ish uh but it's it was exciting to see so many people in the community

01:20:45.460 --> 01:20:51.380
-  um coming out to support that groundbreaking and we can't wait for the ribbon cutting i'm just

01:20:51.380 --> 01:21:02.580
-  gonna say it that way um and i'm glad that um council member crossley um noted the that that

01:21:02.580 --> 01:21:09.860
-  sheryl munson would have really appreciated that day she worked hard for it she did she worked hard

01:21:09.860 --> 01:21:17.140
-  for it i'm i'm gonna um see what we can do about getting something a room or something named that

01:21:17.140 --> 01:21:24.340
-  would be for her very appropriate yeah she was she's amazing um but uh yeah you know when i was

01:21:24.340 --> 01:21:32.340
-  driving over to it i was thinking sheryl would love this oh yes yeah um so just uh we did it's

01:21:32.340 --> 01:21:39.460
-  it's been a while but we did have a tornado come through our community on um can't forget that it

01:21:39.460 --> 01:21:49.700
-  happened um and um there uh we're coming to this is mid-may and so we're coming to the point where

01:21:49.700 --> 01:21:56.340
-  there are some still there there's assistance available still and um one of the things that

01:21:56.340 --> 01:22:05.060
-  has opened now is a disaster recovery center at ivy tech in room b as in boy 201 now this

01:22:05.060 --> 01:22:13.460
-  disaster recovery center closes friday at 3 pm the 18th friday the 18th at 3 pm um

01:22:15.540 --> 01:22:22.740
-  so it is open monday through friday 8 to 5 saturdays 10 to 2 this information is available on our

01:22:22.740 --> 01:22:31.540
-  website under the what's new feature in the center of the page so this is where you can go get

01:22:31.540 --> 01:22:37.380
-  information about the potential because we have been declared this has been declared emergency

01:22:39.700 --> 01:22:46.420
-  for small business administration long term and or low interest loans and this is not just for

01:22:46.420 --> 01:22:53.220
-  businesses um and also um state disaster relief fund but if you aren't sure what you're eligible

01:22:53.220 --> 01:23:00.740
-  for go to the disaster recovery center at ivy tech and find out that's that's how this works

01:23:01.940 --> 01:23:10.100
-  i will also note that um we had um dumpsters placed uh at three locations in our community

01:23:10.100 --> 01:23:16.260
-  lighthouse christian academy east jackson creek drive and south sandpaper drive and elrin and

01:23:16.260 --> 01:23:26.580
-  hermony road um this ends tomorrow right miss purdy the dumpsters that ends tomorrow the six

01:23:27.300 --> 01:23:35.700
-  so please um get your um yard debris uh in a separate bin from the construction debris

01:23:35.700 --> 01:23:41.940
-  please do not put debris in the roadway we are county highway is not responsible for

01:23:41.940 --> 01:23:49.460
-  cleaning up trees on your property um and we appreciate everyone's help and assistance with

01:23:49.460 --> 01:23:57.380
-  this um american red cross is accepting applications for case management so if somebody is impacted

01:23:57.380 --> 01:23:57.460
-  by

01:23:57.460 --> 01:24:07.140
-  the tornado they can call 1-800 red cross um and or go to the location at 441 south college avenue

01:24:07.140 --> 01:24:16.100
-  furniture needs go to st vincent de paul call 812-961-1510 extension three salvation army has

01:24:16.100 --> 01:24:23.540
-  clothing available 812-336-4310 uh the hoosier hills food bank can help with food needs

01:24:23.540 --> 01:24:30.820
-  and veterans are encouraged to contract contact the minero county veterans service office at

01:24:30.820 --> 01:24:44.340
-  812-349-2658 um and just a reminder as we've had a bunch of rain today yeah yeah it was a lot um

01:24:45.460 --> 01:24:54.740
-  that there is a county alert notification system just go to co.minero.in.us click on the megaphone

01:24:54.740 --> 01:25:03.220
-  in the center of the page and sign up to receive alerts about any emergencies in the area um i will

01:25:03.220 --> 01:25:13.940
-  note that um i had a conversation um with emergency management because the tornado sirens went off

01:25:13.940 --> 01:25:14.100
-  at

01:25:14.100 --> 01:25:20.420
-  iu on tuesday at like 2 30 and it was clear and sunny and apparently they've got some technical

01:25:20.420 --> 01:25:25.620
-  software difficulties going on so uh but that's the first thing i did is i looked at my phone

01:25:25.620 --> 01:25:31.380
-  did i get an alert and miss it well that's it's just how how it should go uh we do have office

01:25:31.380 --> 01:25:39.620
-  hours six times each month um just go see our calendar at co.minero.in.us there is a blood drive

01:25:39.620 --> 01:25:49.220
-  at ivy tech um c 130 a and b uh today one to six uh go to redcross.org to make an appointment the

01:25:49.220 --> 01:25:58.340
-  next blood drives are wednesday july 9th thursday july 10th um july 9th is 10 a.m to 3 p.m july 10th

01:25:58.340 --> 01:26:07.540
-  is 1 p.m to 6 p.m um i will also note that we had such an interesting week last week because on

01:26:07.540 --> 01:26:12.740
-  thursday the united states department of homeland security in response to presidential executive

01:26:12.740 --> 01:26:19.860
-  order 14287 issued a list of local communities nationwide that the federal government alleges

01:26:19.860 --> 01:26:29.060
-  violate unstated federal immigration laws um we are the only county that was on that list um so

01:26:29.060 --> 01:26:40.340
-  we responded um and um uh the list is gone but i'm my guess my best guess is it's going to come

01:26:40.340 --> 01:26:40.660
-  back

01:26:40.660 --> 01:26:49.300
-  not as a big long list but as something that's going to come back later in other form or fashion

01:26:49.300 --> 01:26:55.540
-  so we're uh we're we are ever vigilant and we appreciate the members of the community who wrote

01:26:55.540 --> 01:27:04.190
-  to us afterwards and said thank you and my response is always we have the easy job you know um i

01:27:04.190 --> 01:27:04.660
-  feel

01:27:04.660 --> 01:27:11.780
-  for members of our community who are wondering what what their future holds i really do and i'm

01:27:11.780 --> 01:27:16.580
-  sorry about the anxiety and the stress that our government is putting them under and i wish they

01:27:16.580 --> 01:27:24.900
-  weren't so i'm going to leave that at that um so uh gun violence prevention um we're orange

01:27:24.900 --> 01:27:25.940
-  tomorrow

01:27:25.940 --> 01:27:31.780
-  um there is a resource fair here at the courthouse at six p.m seven p.m there will be a program and

01:27:31.780 --> 01:27:39.860
-  again this is um friday uh june 6 um uh anything else for the good of the order

01:27:41.700 --> 01:27:48.580
-  commissioner madera um just i wanted to underscore remarks that you made actually

01:27:48.580 --> 01:27:53.540
-  commissioner thomas at uh the groundbreaking and that is to recognize the contribution of

01:27:53.540 --> 01:27:58.740
-  commissioner givins to the project um she worked on this along with you guys for years and along

01:27:58.740 --> 01:28:04.980
-  with many other members of the community and uh i do think that that was of a very a very

01:28:06.180 --> 01:28:12.740
-  demonstrated and heartfelt and um energetic commitment uh and and i think that that um

01:28:12.740 --> 01:28:18.340
-  does need to be commemorated and recognized as long as we're also recognizing the contributions

01:28:18.340 --> 01:28:23.780
-  of sheryl once and again um and it was my pleasure to be there and again just other

01:28:23.780 --> 01:28:30.980
-  remarks of mr mg earlier there are moments we disagree uh there are moments that we talk with

01:28:30.980 --> 01:28:35.940
-  each other and we always come out i think better people for it and i think the convention center

01:28:35.940 --> 01:28:42.740
-  expansion is sort of a testament to that process so again just proud to be um serving with you guys

01:28:42.740 --> 01:28:54.340
-  right thank you um i do want to take a moment of personal privilege if i might um and i have a

01:28:54.340 --> 01:28:59.620
-  statement i'd like to make and this is just for me this is not from the board of commissioners

01:28:59.620 --> 01:29:08.900
-  but it's important enough that i'd like to make the statement um so the chamber of commerce issued

01:29:08.900 --> 01:29:15.380
-  a newsletter a little more than a month ago disparaging me as an elected official it's sort

01:29:15.380 --> 01:29:24.020
-  of uh whatever you know i'm used to it yep however the chamber which in my opinion spends a bit too

01:29:24.020 --> 01:29:31.140
-  much time on political affairs for a 501 c3 has an agenda pro housing no matter what the chamber

01:29:31.140 --> 01:29:36.340
-  the developers have a mutual relationship meanwhile people like our plan commission president margaret

01:29:36.340 --> 01:29:44.260
-  clements gets caught in the crossfire the chamber is doing what the chamber's doing that's fine

01:29:44.260 --> 01:29:52.100
-  that's their role that's fine but the chamber didn't like her vote on the zoning petition

01:29:53.460 --> 01:29:57.620
-  they didn't tell the readers of a newsletter that the majority of the planning commission

01:29:57.620 --> 01:30:02.580
-  supported that petition as well it then came to the board of commissioners for a decision

01:30:02.580 --> 01:30:08.260
-  dr clements like some other members of the planning commission are appointed by the board

01:30:08.260 --> 01:30:13.700
-  of commissioners we don't direct them to vote in any particular manner and we have appointed both

01:30:13.700 --> 01:30:19.940
-  democrats and republicans over the many years it is inappropriate for the chamber to direct their

01:30:19.940 --> 01:30:26.180
-  vitriol against an appointed member of a body it is disrespectful to her personally

01:30:26.180 --> 01:30:31.460
-  maligning someone who is essentially volunteering her time to the community

01:30:31.460 --> 01:30:39.620
-  is misdirected and disgraceful how's that for the word community if you go to the newsletter you'll

01:30:39.620 --> 01:30:45.940
-  get why i said that i am so proud of margaret clements she had stood up for the interest of

01:30:45.940 --> 01:30:51.700
-  menorah county residents in the fight against the city's annexation process her mom wasn't targeted

01:30:51.700 --> 01:30:57.780
-  for annexation but she cared so much about people in the community who faced potential property tax

01:30:57.780 --> 01:31:03.060
-  increases if their homes were annexed meaning their affordable homes would become unaffordable

01:31:03.060 --> 01:31:09.380
-  let's talk about affordable housing and she stepped up she's worked hard for this community

01:31:09.380 --> 01:31:14.820
-  that she loves she didn't gain anything but in fact spent a great deal of her precious time and

01:31:14.820 --> 01:31:21.220
-  funds to support county residents and when dr clements fought annexation for so many years she

01:31:21.220 --> 01:31:26.900
-  didn't do it again for financial gain similarly her role on the planning commission is as a

01:31:26.900 --> 01:31:32.660
-  resident not someone with a vested financial interest in a particular outcome her service on

01:31:32.660 --> 01:31:38.100
-  the planning commission is for the betterment of the menorah county community after these personal

01:31:38.100 --> 01:31:43.060
-  attacks appeared in the chamber's newsletters dr clements reached out to the chamber and asked

01:31:43.060 --> 01:31:50.100
-  for a meeting a month later here we are a month later and they have not had the courage to sit

01:31:50.100 --> 01:31:58.020
-  down with her i say shame on them dr clements and others who serve our community deserve our thanks

01:31:58.020 --> 01:32:03.700
-  whether we agree with their votes or not they do not deserve to be attacked we want to encourage

01:32:03.700 --> 01:32:08.340
-  residents to share their time talent and expertise as members of boards and commissions

01:32:08.980 --> 01:32:15.060
-  not discouraging them with disparaging comments if the chamber wants to malign a resident who

01:32:15.060 --> 01:32:19.300
-  serves the community the least they could do is have the courage to meet with her

01:32:19.300 --> 01:32:26.580
-  thank you for letting me get that off my chest all right um anything else for the good of the

01:32:26.580 --> 01:32:36.020
-  order all right our next meeting is june 12 10 a.m here in the natu hill room with that we are

01:32:36.020 --> 01:32:42.420
-  adjourned thanks everyone

01:33:12.420 --> 01:33:15.920
-  ("Pomp and Circumstance")

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-  ("Pomp and Circumstance")

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-  ("Pomp and Circumstance")

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-  ("Pomp and Circumstance")
