WEBVTT 00:00:00.290 --> 00:00:08.254 - I call to order this meeting and Monroe County Board of Commissioners. It's Thursday, September 25th. 00:00:08.254 --> 00:00:16.218 - I will note for the record that Commissioner Madeira and myself, Commissioner Thomas are present here 00:00:16.218 --> 00:00:19.966 - in the NatU Hill Room. And we'll start with our 00:00:20.770 --> 00:00:27.079 - public statement. We, the Monroe County Board of Commissioners, renew our commitment to welcome and 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:33.703 - protect the rights of all people, regardless of age, race, color, creed, disability, sexual orientation, 00:00:33.703 --> 00:00:40.201 - gender, gender identity, marital status, economic status, and national origin. And we affirm the right 00:00:40.201 --> 00:00:45.941 - of every person to live peacefully and without fear, and we will fight and resist at every 00:00:45.941 --> 00:00:50.736 - step discrimination and harmful policies, whatever their source. We believe 00:00:50.736 --> 00:00:59.807 - in diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. We also stand in support of our county public school 00:00:59.807 --> 00:01:08.789 - systems, both RBB and MCCSC. And with that, we'll move on to our department. Our department updates 00:01:08.789 --> 00:01:18.129 - will begin with the health department, please. Good morning, commissioners. As of September 23rd, there 00:01:18.129 --> 00:01:20.734 - has been a small decrease in 00:01:21.058 --> 00:01:29.564 - emergency department visits for COVID-like illness. Wastewater concentrations are still high but lower 00:01:29.564 --> 00:01:38.235 - than previous years. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization 00:01:38.235 --> 00:01:46.658 - Practices has recommended COVID-19 vaccination be determined by individual decision-making for adults 00:01:46.658 --> 00:01:50.622 - 65 and older. For those six months to 64 years, 00:01:50.786 --> 00:01:58.833 - ASEF emphasized that the risk benefit of vaccination is most favorable for individuals at increased 00:01:58.833 --> 00:02:07.040 - risk of severe illness. The CDC recommends an annual flu vaccine for all people six months and older. 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:12.190 - Recommendations for the RSE vaccine are unchanged at this time. 00:02:12.322 --> 00:02:20.044 - A single dose of the vaccine is recommended for adults over the age of 75 and those 50 to 74 who are 00:02:20.044 --> 00:02:27.919 - at increased risk of severe RSV disease. Our public health clinic has vaccines available. You can call 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:36.175 - 812-353-3244 for an appointment. All right. Thank you so much. Comments or questions, Commissioner Madeira? 00:02:36.175 --> 00:02:38.622 - I have none. Thank you so much. 00:02:39.330 --> 00:02:49.521 - I don't have any questions either. The CDC site showed on a map, but it was outdated already. It's over 00:02:49.521 --> 00:02:59.319 - two weeks old, unfortunately, almost two weeks old, that Indiana is very high in terms of our COVID 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:09.118 - prevalence in the wastewater. So thank you so much. We have an update from Ms. Ridge. Good morning. 00:03:09.634 --> 00:03:16.301 - Good morning. Just want to announce that we will have a ribbon cutting tomorrow at 9 a.m. for the Fullerton 00:03:16.301 --> 00:03:22.535 - Pike project. We will have a little bit of work to complete over the next 30 days or so finishing up 00:03:22.535 --> 00:03:28.708 - the project, but it should not impede traffic too much, maybe sporadic flagging operations. But for 00:03:28.708 --> 00:03:33.214 - the most part, it will be open to the traveling public from here on out. 00:03:33.762 --> 00:03:44.174 - Okay, thank you so much. Very exciting. I'm looking forward to it. That's another achievement. 00:03:44.174 --> 00:03:55.354 - Thank you. Huge achievement for highway for sure. All right. Any other departments have an update for 00:03:55.354 --> 00:04:00.286 - us? All right. Seeing none, we will now open 00:04:00.866 --> 00:04:06.744 - The floor for public comment. This is for items not on our agenda. We ask that speakers limit their 00:04:06.744 --> 00:04:12.798 - time to three minutes per person. And we ask you to provide your name and county of residence. You may 00:04:12.798 --> 00:04:18.206 - raise your hand on teams to be recognized or come to the podium here in the NatU Hill Room. 00:04:29.858 --> 00:04:36.886 - seeing none, we'll move on to our next item, please. I would like to move to approve the minutes for 00:04:36.886 --> 00:04:43.635 - September 11th, 2025. Second. Any comments, corrections, or edits? Nope, I already have them in. 00:04:43.635 --> 00:04:50.593 - All right. I don't have any either. All those in favor of approving the minutes for September 11th, 00:04:50.593 --> 00:04:55.742 - 2025, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries. 2-0. Next item, please. 00:04:55.906 --> 00:05:04.491 - I would like to move to approve the claims docket for accounts payable for September 25th, 2025, and 00:05:04.491 --> 00:05:13.585 - for payroll for September 19th, 2025. Second. Ms. Moser, please. Good morning, commissioners. The accounts 00:05:13.585 --> 00:05:22.425 - payable claims docket for September 25th, 2025 totals $3,197,786.07. This includes all emergency claims 00:05:22.425 --> 00:05:23.870 - and adjustments. 00:05:23.970 --> 00:05:38.299 - The payroll docket for September 19th, 2025 includes $1,622,537.45 in direct costs, and the remaining 00:05:38.299 --> 00:05:48.414 - $693,848.41 were for indirect costs for a grand total of $2,316,385.86. 00:05:50.146 --> 00:05:56.694 - Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner Madeira? I actually have none. Thank you. I don't 00:05:56.694 --> 00:06:02.931 - either. Thank you so much. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You can raise your 00:06:02.931 --> 00:06:06.174 - hand on Teams or podium here in the NatU Hill Room. 00:06:15.970 --> 00:06:23.902 - seeing none all those in favor of approving the claims docket accounts payable September 25th 2025 and 00:06:23.902 --> 00:06:31.910 - payroll September 19th 2025 signify by saying aye aye motion carries to zero I will note for the record 00:06:31.910 --> 00:06:39.611 - that we have received reports from the clerk for August 2025 and the treasurer also August 2025 and 00:06:39.611 --> 00:06:43.230 - with that we'll move on to new business please 00:06:43.810 --> 00:06:50.915 - I would like to move approval for RQAW Corporation Professional Services for generator projects at County 00:06:50.915 --> 00:06:57.618 - Highway Garage and the Youth Services Bureau. Fund name 2024 Geobahn, fund number 4819 in an amount 00:06:57.618 --> 00:07:04.455 - not to exceed $67,000. I will second that. Mr. Kreider. Good morning, commissioners. Richard Kreider, 00:07:04.455 --> 00:07:11.224 - Building and Fleet Department. This request is to accept the proposal submitted by RQAW in an amount 00:07:11.224 --> 00:07:12.766 - not to exceed $67,000. 00:07:12.898 --> 00:07:18.722 - to provide professional services to include design development, final design, bidding and construction 00:07:18.722 --> 00:07:24.434 - administration for installation of a new diesel emergency generator that is capable of full facility 00:07:24.434 --> 00:07:30.427 - backup at the highway garage. This project also includes relocating the existing generator at the highway 00:07:30.427 --> 00:07:36.478 - garage to the Youth Services Bureau to provide emergency power to the residential portion of the building. 00:07:39.106 --> 00:07:44.943 - Thank you so much. Comments or questions, Commissioner Madure? No, really essential to have power at 00:07:44.943 --> 00:07:50.549 - that location. So happy to do this. It's a great, great use of that generator. So good thinking. 00:07:50.549 --> 00:07:56.443 - Thank you. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come 00:07:56.443 --> 00:07:57.310 - to the podium. 00:08:08.514 --> 00:08:17.170 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the RQAW Corporation Professional Services agreement for 00:08:17.170 --> 00:08:25.656 - projects at County Highway Garage and Use Service Bureau signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 00:08:25.656 --> 00:08:34.142 - to zero. Next item, please. I would like to move approval for resolution 2025-40, surplus property. 00:08:34.818 --> 00:08:41.895 - I will second that. Mr. Crider, are you handling this one? Yeah, I'll take this one. Various departments 00:08:41.895 --> 00:08:48.703 - have submitted items to surplus. The maintenance department, we have some broken, unserviceable, and 00:08:48.703 --> 00:08:55.645 - obsolete tools there to be recycled at the waste reduction district. The prosecutor's office has three 00:08:55.645 --> 00:09:03.262 - desks that are no longer needed. They're past service life. They'll be sold for scrap metal at the salvage yard. 00:09:03.810 --> 00:09:12.423 - The highway department has 50 used street signs that have been replaced with new. And those will be 00:09:12.423 --> 00:09:21.294 - auctioned on govdeals.com. Fleet, we have a 2012 Chevy Equinox that we'd like to donate to Health Net. 00:09:21.294 --> 00:09:30.079 - Excellent use of that vehicle. Comments or questions? Commissioner Madeira? I always am glad to reuse 00:09:30.079 --> 00:09:32.318 - or otherwise productively 00:09:33.666 --> 00:09:43.564 - you know, dispose of these materials. So thank you. All right. Let's see if there's any public comment 00:09:43.564 --> 00:09:53.846 - on this item. Raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving 00:09:53.846 --> 00:10:02.398 - resolution 2025-40, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries 2-0. Thank you, sir. 00:10:03.778 --> 00:10:11.853 - Next item, please. I would like to move approval for Smithville Fiber Carst Park Internet Agreement 00:10:11.853 --> 00:10:20.252 - Fund name County General Fund number 1000 in the amount of $21,150. I will second that. Mr. Crone. Good 00:10:20.252 --> 00:10:29.054 - morning, everyone. So just a few weeks ago, Smithville Fiber completed the fiber project at Carst Farm Park. 00:10:29.538 --> 00:10:35.247 - They've tied off the fiber that's located at the highway garage to provide that to that location so 00:10:35.247 --> 00:10:41.126 - that we can have better coverage for the patrons that visit out there. So now it's time to pay for the 00:10:41.126 --> 00:10:46.835 - actual internet service to back it. So this will be tied into the agreement we already have for the 00:10:46.835 --> 00:10:53.057 - highway department's internet service. It comes at a charge of $450 a month that will add to that agreement. 00:10:53.057 --> 00:10:54.142 - Thank you so much. 00:10:54.658 --> 00:11:01.374 - questions, Commissioner Madure? You know, I think this is just really fabulous because there is a lot 00:11:01.374 --> 00:11:08.023 - of residents that use these fields. It's really a safety feature. I think if you're encountering car 00:11:08.023 --> 00:11:14.673 - difficulties out there, if you run into an issue, it's really just essential. It's not really even a 00:11:14.673 --> 00:11:21.388 - convenience factor. So I think this is wonderful. Thank you. Yeah. So this is so the ARPA funding was 00:11:21.388 --> 00:11:23.166 - utilized to bring Internet 00:11:23.458 --> 00:11:31.789 - to Karst Farm Park, but this is the actual internet bill. That is correct. To pay for it, got it. Perfect, 00:11:31.789 --> 00:11:39.886 - thank you so much. All right, let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand 00:11:39.886 --> 00:11:47.984 - on teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Smithville Fiber Karst 00:11:47.984 --> 00:11:53.278 - Park internet agreement signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries. 00:11:53.570 --> 00:12:01.531 - I would like to move approval for Toshiba copier agreement for the voter registration office. Fund name, 00:12:01.531 --> 00:12:09.189 - cumulative capital, fund number 1138 in the amount of $3,614.28. I will second that. Mr. Crown, tell 00:12:09.189 --> 00:12:16.998 - us all about it, please. So approximately three years ago, we replaced half of our copier fleet, which 00:12:16.998 --> 00:12:22.078 - was about 75 copiers with Toshiba's. The plan being to get through 00:12:22.178 --> 00:12:28.760 - year four of a five year agreement before we advance the rest of the retired the rest of the Rico's 00:12:28.760 --> 00:12:32.446 - with for Toshiba. Unfortunately, the voter edge copier. 00:12:32.546 --> 00:12:39.597 - completely burned. It's beyond repair at this point. Can't get parts for it either. So we need to go 00:12:39.597 --> 00:12:46.788 - ahead and get that one taken care of ahead of all the other refresh on that. So this is for one single 00:12:46.788 --> 00:12:54.189 - copier. It is a lease agreement over a term of 60 months, at the end of which we do have a dollar buyout. 00:12:54.189 --> 00:12:59.774 - We will own the equipment. And this does meet state QPA pricing for the copier. 00:12:59.970 --> 00:13:06.523 - Thank you so much for managing the fleet of copiers that we have. Comments or questions? Commissioner 00:13:06.523 --> 00:13:12.948 - Madera? Nope. The RICO's must be recalled at some point. And so these are essential. I mean, again, 00:13:12.948 --> 00:13:19.822 - this is sort of the bare bones of government business. All right. Let's see if there's any public comments 00:13:19.822 --> 00:13:24.062 - on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. 00:13:37.922 --> 00:13:46.033 - All those in favor of approving the Toshiba copier agreement for voter registration office signify by 00:13:46.033 --> 00:13:54.542 - saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 2-0. Thank you very much. Okay. Item please. I would like to move approval 00:13:54.542 --> 00:14:02.494 - for ordinance 2025-29 to amend the Monroe County code chapter 360, the solid waste disposal. I will 00:14:02.494 --> 00:14:07.742 - second that. Looks like we have our health department folks here. 00:14:08.962 --> 00:14:15.024 - Good morning. Good morning. Mike is in good with the Monroe County Health Department. Semi and I are 00:14:15.024 --> 00:14:21.386 - requesting for the general environmental chapter 360 waste haulers. The vehicles permits be discontinued. 00:14:21.386 --> 00:14:27.507 - So it's the program started in the 70s when we had landfill and toxics PCB sites. Those are no longer 00:14:27.507 --> 00:14:33.569 - available here in the county. Then also a few local health departments are doing this. The only ones 00:14:33.569 --> 00:14:36.030 - we're aware of St. Joe and Clark County. 00:14:38.242 --> 00:14:46.049 - Thank you so much. Comments or questions, Commissioner Madeira? No, it makes sense to me. Thank you. 00:14:46.049 --> 00:14:54.242 - Yeah, it does make sense. But so if a resident sees an issue, they should call IDEM, I assume? Department 00:14:54.242 --> 00:15:01.430 - of Transportation, the state police, and also we're available if needed. But I mean, there's 00:15:01.430 --> 00:15:06.686 - other departments, agencies that take it will do this task as well. 00:15:07.234 --> 00:15:13.941 - Excellent. Thank you. It's just always good to know where people can contact an agency if they see an 00:15:13.941 --> 00:15:20.714 - issue. So thank you so much. It's very important that most of everything that's in 360 will still give 00:15:20.714 --> 00:15:27.421 - both the waste district and our department the ability to, if we can determine source of trash on the 00:15:27.421 --> 00:15:34.392 - wayside so we can still do that. Right. So after the fact, yes, absolutely. Yeah. No, that's an important 00:15:34.392 --> 00:15:37.022 - thing to point out. Thank you for that. 00:15:37.986 --> 00:15:52.130 - All right, let's see if there's any public comments on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come 00:15:52.130 --> 00:16:06.686 - to the podium. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving ordinance 2025-29 signify by saying aye. Aye. 00:16:06.786 --> 00:16:16.060 - Motion carries 2-0. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks. Item, please. I would like to amend the Monroe 00:16:16.060 --> 00:16:24.891 - County restricted addresses policy. Second. Mr. Cochran? Yes. State code has a provision in it that 00:16:24.891 --> 00:16:32.222 - requires us to, if requested, protect information of people of certain characters. 00:16:32.866 --> 00:16:39.979 - in our public database. So like when you go on the GIS, I think it's primarily what we're talking about 00:16:39.979 --> 00:16:47.229 - here. And basically it's to hide the addresses of people who may have sensitivities to people, the public 00:16:47.229 --> 00:16:54.069 - at large, knowing where they're at. State code has recently changed to identify different groups of 00:16:54.069 --> 00:17:01.182 - people who this would apply to. And this is just bringing that, our code in compliance with state code. 00:17:02.658 --> 00:17:20.727 - Thank you so much. So I think my question relates to, I know it's following state law, but item three 00:17:20.727 --> 00:17:31.710 - lists a victim of domestic violence, but that got crossed out 00:17:33.506 --> 00:17:40.183 - to read and address confidentiality program participant. Can you speak on that? I can do my best. I 00:17:40.183 --> 00:17:46.927 - think the victims of domestic violence, if the court found it, would include them. And it might be a 00:17:46.927 --> 00:17:53.738 - little broader. So it might include other people who would enter that address confidentiality program 00:17:53.738 --> 00:18:00.415 - that may not be a domestic violence victim, but could be something akin to that where we would want 00:18:00.415 --> 00:18:01.150 - to protect 00:18:01.314 --> 00:18:08.631 - their identity, where they live on our public database. Thank you. I just want to make that clear to 00:18:08.631 --> 00:18:16.020 - everyone that we're not eliminating that protection. Okay. Any questions or comments? No, I was going 00:18:16.020 --> 00:18:23.771 - to say I looked at the elaboration of that and see, and there's actually a public program that's certified 00:18:23.771 --> 00:18:28.190 - under the state code and it does appear to be broader. Yeah. 00:18:31.874 --> 00:18:44.222 - There's any public comment on this item. You can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. 00:18:44.222 --> 00:18:56.951 - Seeing none, all those in favor of amending the Monroe County restricted addresses policies signify 00:18:56.951 --> 00:19:01.534 - by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries. 00:19:01.986 --> 00:19:30.686 - I will second that. Um. I don't know if you want to speak on this 00:19:30.978 --> 00:19:40.053 - So Ms. Purdy has kindly agreed to read out the names and the amounts for us, and then we'll go from 00:19:40.053 --> 00:19:48.312 - there. If you want, I can note that this is the local coordinating councils were formed in 00:19:48.312 --> 00:19:54.846 - 1991 in association with Governor by anti-drug initiative at that time. 00:19:55.298 --> 00:20:02.252 - These councils support and promote, these councils exist across the state, promote local efforts to 00:20:02.252 --> 00:20:09.831 - prevent and reduce harmful involvement with alcohol and other drugs. And as such, the board of commissioners 00:20:09.831 --> 00:20:17.063 - are responsible for approving this disbursement of funds. And so at this point in time, I'll just start 00:20:17.063 --> 00:20:24.016 - reading out names. And I do know that there's two people, I believe, who are not here and unable to 00:20:24.016 --> 00:20:24.990 - pick up their 00:20:25.666 --> 00:20:34.070 - their funding, but we will reach out to them and get them in here so they can get that. So the first 00:20:34.070 --> 00:20:42.640 - one would be for the Monroe County Drug Treatment Court and Monroe Circuit Court Probation Department. 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:51.044 - And they're receiving one check. Monroe County Drug Treatment Court gets $1,462.50 and the probation 00:20:51.044 --> 00:20:54.622 - gets $1,162.50. Thank you. You're welcome. 00:20:55.010 --> 00:21:06.803 - The second one is New Leaf New Life for their reentry programs, and that is $4,910.39. We have, okay, 00:21:06.803 --> 00:21:18.944 - so this one, the Bloomington Police Department did in fact receive some funding of $1,862.50, and that's 00:21:18.944 --> 00:21:21.950 - for a Sotoxa test system. 00:21:23.458 --> 00:21:34.313 - It's enhanced roadside detection of drug impaired driving. The next one is Amethyst House. Yep. And 00:21:34.313 --> 00:21:45.168 - that's for the men's program at $5,010.39. And then I believe Amethyst House is also picking up for 00:21:45.168 --> 00:21:52.766 - the women's program at $4,062.50. And they're both on that one check. 00:21:53.026 --> 00:22:06.603 - Yep. Courage to Change is the next one. For Sober Living, $5,292.29. Beacon is also not able to be here, 00:22:06.603 --> 00:22:19.664 - and that is for their Crawford Homes program. It's a sum of $4,614.61. Big Brothers, Big Sisters for 00:22:19.664 --> 00:22:21.086 - mentoring. 00:22:21.250 --> 00:22:37.298 - $5,233. PALS, People and Animal Learning Services, for $3,283 for their changing leads, changing lives. 00:22:37.298 --> 00:22:50.878 - I don't know what wonderful work animals and horses do for other people, me especially. 00:22:51.586 --> 00:23:04.334 - And then the last one will go to the cares board itself for their operating expenses in the sum of $5,250. 00:23:04.334 --> 00:23:16.606 - So thank you. Thank you so much. Was there was there anybody who wishes to speak from the cares board? 00:23:16.802 --> 00:23:23.727 - Mr. Mullen, did you want to speak on this? Sorry, don't sit down yet. Sure. I'm Steven Malone, CARES 00:23:23.727 --> 00:23:30.720 - Board President. I'm also a probation officer and director of the Monroe County Circuit Court Problem 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:37.644 - Solving Courts Program. This is a pretty judicious project we go through each year as far as handing 00:23:37.644 --> 00:23:42.718 - out the grants, and we appreciate the commissioners helping us with this. 00:23:42.850 --> 00:23:48.878 - keeping me on the right track as far as what I need to do and how I need to do it because for some reason 00:23:48.878 --> 00:23:54.678 - I can't get it straight every year. But unfortunately the money keeps dwindling. However, we're doing 00:23:54.678 --> 00:24:00.422 - our best to make sure that everybody gets what they deserve based on their scores on the grants. And 00:24:00.422 --> 00:24:06.166 - I do want to make mention about the Sotoxa machine. It's a really cool machine. I actually purchased 00:24:06.166 --> 00:24:11.966 - one for our problem solving course last year through a state grant. It's an instant saliva oral swab. 00:24:12.098 --> 00:24:19.059 - that you can do and get results within five minutes that will detect. The unfortunate thing is it does 00:24:19.059 --> 00:24:26.425 - not detect for alcohol, but it tests for, you know, opiates, benzos, amphetamines, cocaine, buproponephrine, 00:24:26.425 --> 00:24:33.656 - stuff like that. So it's a really cool that the officer can use out in the field if he suspects somebody's 00:24:33.656 --> 00:24:40.414 - been using that's not drinking alcohol. So it's a really cool machine. But we appreciate your help. 00:24:40.610 --> 00:24:48.537 - and the checks and I, as I told Angie, I will have my CARES board coordinator, Lisa Muser, reach out 00:24:48.537 --> 00:24:56.620 - to the two that weren't here this morning to make sure they get their checks. Any questions? Just what 00:24:56.620 --> 00:24:59.838 - a wonderful series of grants. Thank you. 00:25:00.002 --> 00:25:07.036 - actually seen that machine, they use it widely in Europe on the roadsides. It's surprising that it's 00:25:07.036 --> 00:25:14.069 - taken so long to come to the US, but it's accurate enough to get a reading to bring someone back for 00:25:14.069 --> 00:25:20.894 - a blood draw to get something that's legally binding. And it's really a huge help because this is 00:25:21.314 --> 00:25:27.639 - part of the issue with roadway safety. And we won't use those as a piece for the problem solving courts 00:25:27.639 --> 00:25:33.904 - as far as sanctioning somebody. If they use, we will actually get one that we will send off to the lab 00:25:33.904 --> 00:25:40.229 - to get confirmation just to make sure that have the scientific proof there in front of us. And I assume 00:25:40.229 --> 00:25:46.372 - the BPD will do something similar to that as well. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks. 00:25:46.372 --> 00:25:48.926 - Is there any public comment on this item? 00:25:49.506 --> 00:25:58.576 - You can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Well, the checks are already gone, so it seems 00:25:58.576 --> 00:26:07.646 - a little anticlimactic. But all those in favor of approving the CARES Board disbursement of checks for 00:26:07.646 --> 00:26:16.893 - grantees for 2025, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries, fortunately, to zero. Yeah, I don't know. 00:26:16.893 --> 00:26:18.654 - Do we just go back? 00:26:19.330 --> 00:26:28.028 - I'm back with the checks. Okay. Next item, please. I would like to move approval for Ordinance 2025-32 00:26:28.028 --> 00:26:36.641 - to amend the Monroe County Code, Chapter 760-13. Second. And we have Mr. Schilling joining us to tell 00:26:36.641 --> 00:26:44.495 - us all about the drainage board changes. Good morning. Good morning. Dave Schilling from the 00:26:44.495 --> 00:26:48.126 - legal department. And this first ordinance 00:26:48.322 --> 00:26:56.575 - adds to the power or clarifies that the drainage board has the authority to identify critical watersheds 00:26:56.575 --> 00:27:04.828 - and sensitive areas. And critical watersheds would be like Cave Creek, areas where we've had substantial 00:27:04.828 --> 00:27:12.766 - flooding history. And sensitive areas are things like wetlands, slopes greater than 15% or falluvial 00:27:13.858 --> 00:27:21.013 - erosion hazard corridors, things like that. And these characteristics, the critical watersheds and the 00:27:21.013 --> 00:27:28.306 - sensitive areas are identified in our stormwater technical manual and in our stormwater plan. And you've 00:27:28.306 --> 00:27:35.461 - approved the ones that have been identified in the past, but we just wanted to make sure that everyone 00:27:35.461 --> 00:27:43.102 - knows that the Drainage Board has the authority to identify those and establish those. And then when they do, 00:27:43.202 --> 00:27:49.115 - we would need to come back and amend the plans through the commissioners. Perfect. Thank you. Comments 00:27:49.115 --> 00:27:55.028 - or questions, Commissioner Maduro? Nope. Again, something that needs to be done because we keep having 00:27:55.028 --> 00:28:01.113 - these events and the drainage board needs to have the authority to deal with them. Thank you for bringing 00:28:01.113 --> 00:28:07.026 - this forward, Mr. Schilling. Let's see if there's any public comments on this item. You can raise your 00:28:07.026 --> 00:28:09.150 - hand on Teams or come to the podium. 00:28:16.642 --> 00:28:25.271 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving ordinance 2025-32 signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 00:28:25.271 --> 00:28:33.655 - to zero. Next item, please. I'd like to move approval for ordinance 2025-33 to amend the Monroe County 00:28:33.655 --> 00:28:41.958 - code chapter 761. Second. Mr. Schilling. Thank you. Earlier this year, we had a comprehensive rewrite 00:28:41.958 --> 00:28:46.110 - of chapter 761, which is our stormwater ordinance. 00:28:46.274 --> 00:28:57.421 - And since we adopted that, the legislature adopted House Enrolled Act 1037, which basically said that 00:28:57.421 --> 00:29:09.006 - local ordinances could not be more strict or restrictive than the state's construction general stormwater 00:29:09.006 --> 00:29:14.142 - permit. And that the state's permit applies to 00:29:14.530 --> 00:29:23.660 - land disturbances that are greater than one acre or less than one acre in a common plan of development. 00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:32.615 - And our ordinance had extended that to land disturbance of less than an acre. So we had to go through 00:29:32.615 --> 00:29:36.478 - and revise the provisions to make sure that 00:29:36.994 --> 00:29:45.158 - Our ordinance would not be interpreted in a manner contrary to House Enrolled Act 1037. So those are 00:29:45.158 --> 00:29:53.564 - basically the changes we made. Comments or questions, Commissioner Madeira? Nope. Again, something that 00:29:53.564 --> 00:29:58.494 - makes sense. I've already seen this at the stormwater board. 00:29:58.754 --> 00:30:08.627 - I'm not sure if we're going to be able to do that on a public level so this isn't a new document for 00:30:08.627 --> 00:30:18.500 - us, but I appreciate the explanation for those who are seeing this for the first time. All right, so 00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:27.102 - let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand and teams are 00:30:27.778 --> 00:30:43.775 - I would like to move approval for the end agreement for the design of the old 37 south and Dillman Road 00:30:43.775 --> 00:30:56.542 - intersection. I'm sorry, fun name, old 30 old a state road south and Dillman Road. 00:30:56.834 --> 00:31:04.079 - I would like to move approval for the Sheriff's Donation Agreement, fund name donations, Sheriff's Reserved, 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:10.726 - fund number 4115. Second. Mr. Cockrell. Yes, and this is something that we've been working with the 00:31:10.726 --> 00:31:17.506 - Monroe County Auxiliary Police Incorporated, which I will refer to as the Sheriff's Reserves from now 00:31:17.506 --> 00:31:23.422 - on because that is how I think people think of them. Their not-for-profit is dissolving. 00:31:23.874 --> 00:31:30.036 - the volunteers and things will still be housed somewhere under the sheriff's umbrella. But when they 00:31:30.036 --> 00:31:36.198 - dissolve, they've got assets that they want to give to the county. Some is cash or cash equivalents, 00:31:36.198 --> 00:31:42.421 - which I assume is all going to be cash. And we created a fund for that earlier this year. And so this 00:31:42.421 --> 00:31:48.583 - just says that that money will be placed in that fund. The other is they have, they build a building 00:31:48.583 --> 00:31:53.342 - on county owned property. And this is kind of clarifying and making sure that 00:31:53.954 --> 00:32:00.995 - that is being donated to the county. So we kind of are joining those two property interests together. 00:32:00.995 --> 00:32:08.105 - Their intent is, their hope is that this remains as part of the law enforcement sheriff's network, but 00:32:08.105 --> 00:32:15.216 - it's not a binding commitment from now till the end of time. I believe the intent is that whoever buys 00:32:15.216 --> 00:32:22.119 - the property will make sure they know that that was the intent of the donation. And I think for the 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:22.878 - most part, 00:32:23.266 --> 00:32:30.653 - the intent is to keep that as a sheriff's sheriff's reserves but we are going through a kind of a big 00:32:30.653 --> 00:32:38.040 - cycle of how we look at property right now and we're going to have to determine what is in the future 00:32:38.040 --> 00:32:45.500 - the best use of that. Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner Medeo? No. This all makes 00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:52.670 - sense and clearly that's the intention is to maintain a sheriff's reserve office on that location. 00:32:52.770 --> 00:33:03.450 - Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. 00:33:03.450 --> 00:33:13.626 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the sheriff's donation agreement signify by saying aye. 00:33:13.626 --> 00:33:18.462 - Aye. Motion carries to zero. Next item, please. 00:33:18.722 --> 00:33:27.192 - I would like to move approval for the end on agreement for the design of the old 37 South and Dillman 00:33:27.192 --> 00:33:35.495 - Road intersection fund name old State Road South and Dillman Road fund number 8191 in the amount of 00:33:35.495 --> 00:33:43.965 - $481,500. I will second that. Ms. Ridge. Good morning. On September 4th, you approved a contract with 00:33:43.965 --> 00:33:46.622 - DLZ and the amount of $539,500. 00:33:46.722 --> 00:33:54.755 - Uh, this is in dots agreement to cover 80% for that contract. Um, and, um, 481,500 dollars and the remainder 00:33:54.755 --> 00:34:02.273 - will be, um, local funds. Thank you so much. Comments or questions. Commissioner Madure. Nope. Again, 00:34:02.273 --> 00:34:09.790 - this is something that I really like seeing move along. Yeah, it's a great project. What, what is the 00:34:09.790 --> 00:34:12.222 - general timeline at this moment? 00:34:14.978 --> 00:34:20.802 - I believe it's fiscal year 2028 was the award for that project. That's what I thought. It's a little 00:34:20.802 --> 00:34:26.567 - ways out, but there's a lot of work that has to be done first. It's about four or five years to get 00:34:26.567 --> 00:34:32.449 - to the construction. Excellent. Thank you so much. All right. Let's see if there's any public comment 00:34:32.449 --> 00:34:36.254 - on this item. You raise your hand in teams or come to the podium. 00:34:46.850 --> 00:34:53.966 - All those in favor of approving the in that agreement for design of the old 37 South Dillman 00:34:53.966 --> 00:35:01.695 - Road intersection signify by saying aye. I motion carries two zero. Thank you, ma'am. All right. Um, 00:35:01.695 --> 00:35:09.499 - item L, please. I would like to move approval from Monroe County Commissioners, Food and Beverage Tax 00:35:09.499 --> 00:35:15.774 - Plan for 2026 2027. Uh, I will second that. Um, and this one's on me. Um, we, um, 00:35:15.938 --> 00:35:24.838 - to present or are required to present as part of the food and beverage tax, which the county receives 00:35:24.838 --> 00:35:33.999 - 10%. The remainder goes to the city for the convention center. Ours is dedicated for tourism or economic 00:35:33.999 --> 00:35:43.161 - development projects with the emphasis on projects. And we need to present this to the Food and Beverage 00:35:43.161 --> 00:35:45.342 - Tax Advisory Commission. 00:35:46.050 --> 00:35:55.626 - There is a meeting tomorrow at 11 a.m. here in the NatU Hill Room where this plan and the city's plan 00:35:55.626 --> 00:36:05.014 - will both be reviewed and voted on by that board. And there is an outline. This was submitted late, 00:36:05.014 --> 00:36:14.590 - so I apologize to the public. But there is a general outline that shows expenditures out of this fund 00:36:14.722 --> 00:36:22.973 - And early on, we provided a lot of COVID assistance in the form of grants rather than loans to local 00:36:22.973 --> 00:36:29.182 - businesses and the Monroe County Convention Center. That was 2020 and 2021. 00:36:29.282 --> 00:36:40.133 - there's a Harrisburg Fireworks show in 2024 received $6000. But otherwise we do plan to proceed with 00:36:40.133 --> 00:36:50.876 - the quarry in the Uplands project, which it's more than a park. It's way more than a park. But, um, 00:36:50.876 --> 00:36:55.710 - we've been a bit delayed due to the issue of 00:36:55.938 --> 00:37:05.307 - fitting this in as we are moving toward the final design for the Justice Center. At first it was, are 00:37:05.307 --> 00:37:14.860 - we buying that property at North Park or not because it adjoins this 99 acres that the county owns with 00:37:14.860 --> 00:37:15.870 - old quarry 00:37:16.002 --> 00:37:25.756 - and we have a number of spots on it. So there is a committee of fine residents who all have different 00:37:25.756 --> 00:37:35.415 - interests and areas of expertise. And we just have in the plan a very, very general outline, because 00:37:35.415 --> 00:37:41.918 - one of the first things we're going to have to do is a master plan, 00:37:44.002 --> 00:37:58.155 - of the delay is, which entrance are we using? But it would be a very public intensive series of meetings 00:37:58.155 --> 00:38:09.342 - to begin that planning process. Because really, it is the county's residence land. 00:38:09.730 --> 00:38:17.842 - There are so many possibilities and opportunities. We do know we want to develop an outdoor and eventually 00:38:17.842 --> 00:38:25.499 - an indoor limestone history center. And that's going to be a big part of this, but certainly there's 00:38:25.499 --> 00:38:30.654 - a lot more that can be done with this property. So the master plan. 00:38:31.490 --> 00:38:39.564 - and then site safety improvements, meaning getting people onto the property, and then gradually over 00:38:39.564 --> 00:38:47.797 - time, seeing, depending on what the public wants, developing different pieces of this property to meet 00:38:47.797 --> 00:38:56.111 - the community's needs. It's going to be very exciting, but that is the plan for our portion of the food 00:38:56.111 --> 00:38:57.150 - and beverage 00:38:57.314 --> 00:39:06.054 - tax dollars. And I'd like to bring this to the Food and Beverage Tax Advisory Commission tomorrow for 00:39:06.054 --> 00:39:15.308 - their final stamp of approval. And that is it. So do you have any questions? No. And just it looks exciting 00:39:15.308 --> 00:39:24.734 - to move this along because I know that for the past several years, we haven't had an expenditure. And I think 00:39:25.122 --> 00:39:33.668 - you know, it's time to have one. Oh, yeah. We will definitely do that. Yeah. And, you know, knowing 00:39:33.668 --> 00:39:43.069 - where we can park, knowing which entrance we should use has a lot to do with that justice center development. 00:39:43.069 --> 00:39:50.590 - So I feel like we are poised to launch. And I know we've got some potential consultants 00:39:51.970 --> 00:40:01.392 - we're going to go through a vetting process, and that will come before us for a contract approval so. 00:40:01.392 --> 00:40:10.630 - From that committee, so that will be a recommendation from that committee. Let's see if there's any 00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:20.606 - public comment on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Alright, and I do want to. 00:40:21.730 --> 00:40:30.878 - I would like to. Give a quick shout out to our great planning director is Nestor Jelin for all our help 00:40:30.878 --> 00:40:39.851 - with this project because we're and we've got more to do and she knows it so. All right with that and 00:40:39.851 --> 00:40:48.735 - no other no public comment. All those in favor of approving the Monroe County commissioners food and 00:40:48.735 --> 00:40:51.198 - beverage tax plan 2026 2027 00:40:52.386 --> 00:41:01.136 - All right, we will move on. Well, I will actually open this up. I'm going to open up a public hearing 00:41:01.136 --> 00:41:09.801 - on ordinance 2025-27, which is a vacation of right of way of a portion of West Marshall May Road. So 00:41:09.801 --> 00:41:15.806 - petitioner? Yes. Please, please share your name and tell us about it. 00:41:16.258 --> 00:41:22.804 - I'm Deborah Pardue. I bought some property off of my neighbor off of South Ketchum Road. She had a 26 00:41:22.804 --> 00:41:26.398 - acre plot. We did an administrative type E subdivision. 00:41:26.754 --> 00:41:34.997 - the property. The property was removed last summer during the survey, which was completed by Eric Deckard 00:41:34.997 --> 00:41:43.395 - in July. Part of the type the administrative subdivision requirements required us to do a 25 ft or required 00:41:43.395 --> 00:41:51.250 - her the property owner at that time. To do a 25 ft dedicated easement or right of way along Marshall 00:41:51.250 --> 00:41:56.382 - May road in on our property that requirement was removed from the 00:41:56.482 --> 00:42:02.824 - add to public burden or anything. And so I was asking for that to be removed from my land because people 00:42:02.824 --> 00:42:08.985 - can park in that easement and I can't do anything about it and they can sit there for as long as they 00:42:08.985 --> 00:42:11.582 - want. They can leave trash on my property. 00:42:12.098 --> 00:42:18.360 - and so I'm only asking for vacation or right of way. The county has imposed the option for vacation 00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:24.810 - or roadway, which if there is a vacation or roadways that is decided on, I'm gonna ask that the county 00:42:24.810 --> 00:42:31.323 - pay the legal burden for the permanent easement that would need to be granted among all property owners 00:42:31.323 --> 00:42:37.711 - for the mays who live at the end of Marshall May to be able to access their house because if the road 00:42:37.711 --> 00:42:38.462 - is vacated, 00:42:38.594 --> 00:42:44.686 - then they become landlocked and then the three property owners who own the property that make up Marshall 00:42:44.686 --> 00:42:50.721 - May Road then are required to come together to make an agreement for them to be able to have a permanent 00:42:50.721 --> 00:42:56.756 - easement to access their property. And so my petition was only for vacation of the easement that affects 00:42:56.756 --> 00:43:02.848 - my property, not the roadway. It was the highway department and legal department that threw in the option 00:43:02.848 --> 00:43:06.526 - to vacate the roadway. That was not something I was asking for. 00:43:07.426 --> 00:43:14.204 - We may need to hear from you again. So if you don't wouldn't mind, I think we'll go to legal next. Thank 00:43:14.204 --> 00:43:20.916 - you so much. Hello, Justin Rodding with the Merrick County Legal Department. I'm here on this ordinance 00:43:20.916 --> 00:43:27.823 - today. I'm going to turn it over shortly to Ms. Jelen. But this is a situation where we've been in contact 00:43:27.823 --> 00:43:34.278 - with Ms. Perdue for some time. It is correct that this land was subdivided in July of last year. As 00:43:34.278 --> 00:43:37.118 - part of that, there was a dedicated 25-foot 00:43:37.346 --> 00:43:43.789 - right of way from the center of the roadway. The roadways varies between about 10 and 14 feet. So it's 00:43:43.789 --> 00:43:50.357 - about 20 feet to maybe 18 feet off the side of the roadway on the south side. I do have some information 00:43:50.357 --> 00:43:56.987 - that I'd like to pass out if I could that was inadvertently neglected to be put in the packet. Ms. Pardue 00:43:56.987 --> 00:44:03.368 - was given a copy by Ms. Jelen, but this has some additional information, including better photographs 00:44:03.368 --> 00:44:06.558 - of what we believe the actual right of way section 00:44:21.506 --> 00:44:28.153 - So I'm going to provide a little bit of additional context and here with my colleagues Ben Ayers with 00:44:28.153 --> 00:44:34.736 - the Highway Department and of course Justin Roddy who just spoke. As Ms. Perdue stated this property 00:44:34.736 --> 00:44:41.253 - was subject to a type E administrative subdivision last year. When our county development ordinance 00:44:41.253 --> 00:44:47.900 - passed we did remove the requirements since then to no longer require type E's which this was subject 00:44:47.900 --> 00:44:49.790 - to to dedicate right of way. 00:44:50.626 --> 00:44:58.213 - However, for its plats that have already dedicated right of way, the planning department cannot vacate 00:44:58.213 --> 00:45:05.800 - that right of way. West Marshall May is a county maintained road. It's a gravel road. It's been in the 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:13.166 - county inventory for several decades. And from our research, it's only accessing one home. But that 00:45:13.166 --> 00:45:17.438 - one home that's receiving access through this county road 00:45:17.538 --> 00:45:25.096 - is actually addressed off of Ketchum, which is the nearest other county road intersecting the street. 00:45:25.096 --> 00:45:32.654 - So I just want to point you to the packet of information that was just handed out. On page 14 of that 00:45:32.654 --> 00:45:40.286 - packet, the second to last page, it defines some of the Indiana code references that we're using here. 00:45:40.418 --> 00:45:51.204 - Under IC 36-7-1-17, it states that a public way includes highway, street, avenue, boulevard, road, lane, 00:45:51.204 --> 00:45:55.518 - or alley. This is West Marshall-May Road. 00:45:55.682 --> 00:46:02.034 - And then if you further look into what those definitions mean, we were able to find just highway or 00:46:02.034 --> 00:46:08.513 - street, which means the entire width between the boundary lines of every publicly maintained way when 00:46:08.513 --> 00:46:15.120 - any part of the way is open to use of the public for purposes of vehicular traffic in Indiana. The term 00:46:15.120 --> 00:46:17.470 - includes an alley in a city or town. 00:46:18.722 --> 00:46:24.757 - So typically when we see these right of way vacation petitions come through, it's not necessarily a 00:46:24.757 --> 00:46:30.912 - road. Maybe it's a right of way for an intended road. When speaking with Mr. Ayers, this is the first 00:46:30.912 --> 00:46:36.766 - time in a very long time where we've had a right of way vacation of an actual road come through. 00:46:36.866 --> 00:46:44.064 - So our suggestion on page 15 is that the commissioners have one of the three options. So number one, 00:46:44.064 --> 00:46:51.404 - you could deny any vacation request and keep the right of way as it is on the type E plat. Number two, 00:46:51.404 --> 00:46:58.317 - you could vacate the entire roadway, which currently serves one property owner. Or number three, 00:46:58.317 --> 00:47:04.446 - as Ms. Perdue would like you to do, is vacate a portion of the right of way, which is 00:47:04.546 --> 00:47:08.190 - primarily the grass surrounding the road, but not the road itself. 00:47:08.322 --> 00:47:14.981 - I guess our position is that the code is pretty clear under the state, which says a vacation is the 00:47:14.981 --> 00:47:21.640 - entire road, it's not just the grass. And what they're asking is that basically we keep maintenance 00:47:21.640 --> 00:47:28.366 - of West Marshall-May Road without any room for, right now, a turnaround. So if this were to actually 00:47:28.366 --> 00:47:35.491 - pass, we would have to work through some sort of MOU to actually even get a vehicle down there to maintain 00:47:35.491 --> 00:47:38.288 - the road. And I know also in this packet, 00:47:38.288 --> 00:47:45.947 - Earlier this year, there have been costs associated with it being in the, in the right of way. Mr errors 00:47:45.947 --> 00:47:53.534 - pooled from their database, a some information about a tree removal and the costs associated with that. 00:47:53.666 --> 00:48:01.571 - which was $1,283.75. And then he also has some information about the cost of maintaining this road, 00:48:01.571 --> 00:48:09.556 - I believe in a year's time that I might have him speak to. But that's just generally some background 00:48:09.556 --> 00:48:17.461 - and happy to answer any questions you might have. Thank you so much. We might have you come back up 00:48:17.461 --> 00:48:22.046 - for questions. Mr. Harris, did you want to speak on this? 00:48:22.722 --> 00:48:34.938 - on this proposal and average cost to maintain the roadway. And I saw the tree. Yeah, but yeah. So in 00:48:34.938 --> 00:48:47.274 - that report, it looks like we spend about $1,500 a year to maintain that road. This year, we're right 00:48:47.274 --> 00:48:51.870 - at 2,800 due to the tree. So what are 00:48:53.058 --> 00:49:01.573 - What are your thoughts on this in terms of the highway department in this proposal? I question all along 00:49:01.573 --> 00:49:09.764 - of why it's a county road, but I mean, it's been in there for decades. You know, if it is vacated or 00:49:09.764 --> 00:49:18.360 - just a section of it, we would have to come up with a place to turn around. You know, there's an existing 00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.334 - turnaround down there that we've used for years. 00:49:23.330 --> 00:49:30.732 - We did work with Miss Purdue at one point on getting some no parking signs down, went to Traffic Commission 00:49:30.732 --> 00:49:37.655 - to get that to try to help with the parking issue. But I don't think it ever got pushed any further. 00:49:37.655 --> 00:49:44.714 - I think it was approved. But then I think it may have. She didn't want that or something. I'll let her 00:49:44.714 --> 00:49:51.774 - speak on that. OK. Because that would be my first suggestion would be a no parking signs in that area. 00:49:52.002 --> 00:49:59.711 - for sure. Ms. Ridge, did you have anything you wanted to add about this? As far as I've been, as long 00:49:59.711 --> 00:50:07.344 - as I've been around and very few of the road vacations, we've never vacated an easement. It's either 00:50:07.344 --> 00:50:15.355 - the entirety of the road or it's not. And Ben's correct. We've been going back and forth on this Marshall 00:50:15.355 --> 00:50:21.854 - May road for quite some time. It is more actually like a driveway than a county road. 00:50:22.050 --> 00:50:28.201 - If you want to vacate it, we would not have any issues with that. Okay. And again, we, I think it got 00:50:28.201 --> 00:50:34.353 - stopped. It went to traffic commission for signs for no parking to help eliminate that problem. We've 00:50:34.353 --> 00:50:40.564 - dealt with the tree issue. Um, so it's just been going and ongoing issue for the county highway. Okay. 00:50:40.564 --> 00:50:47.198 - Great. I would add that I did reach out to all the utility companies and there are no utilities in that area. 00:50:48.674 --> 00:50:56.102 - question. So good. Okay, so there's no utility easement on this on this roadway. Okay. And then I'm 00:50:56.102 --> 00:51:03.753 - going to let you ask questions, not not the petitioner yet. So you may want to sit for a moment. We've 00:51:03.753 --> 00:51:11.552 - got questions that we're going to ask staff, I think. Go ahead and offer your questions. I have a couple 00:51:11.552 --> 00:51:18.014 - more. Actually, I think that all my questions that I've wanted to ask have been asked. 00:51:18.178 --> 00:51:26.810 - You know, historically, have we done these sorts of things? It appears that this is sort of the first 00:51:26.810 --> 00:51:35.527 - question like this we've considered after passage of the CDO. You know, had this been handled, I mean, 00:51:35.527 --> 00:51:44.582 - it appears that if this had been handled under the CDO, it would have been, you know, handled differently. 00:51:44.582 --> 00:51:46.782 - This would have been what 00:51:46.882 --> 00:51:58.665 - it would have been, you said not the category E. The type E administrative. Yes, so essentially in your 00:51:58.665 --> 00:52:10.562 - packet on page 15, the end result would have been three. So they wouldn't have had to dedicate the right 00:52:10.562 --> 00:52:15.774 - way. Yes, exactly. Thank you. So. Yes, no, I. 00:52:16.098 --> 00:52:23.814 - Go ahead and ask. I may have questions later on. Yeah. So we have a petitioner that says there are four 00:52:23.814 --> 00:52:31.456 - people who become landlocked if this becomes a private road. A shared driveway can't be more than four 00:52:31.456 --> 00:52:38.949 - addresses. But now I'm hearing there's only one address off of this. And I only saw one driveway off 00:52:38.949 --> 00:52:41.694 - of this as well. So I don't know if. 00:52:41.794 --> 00:52:52.126 - Mr. Roddy or Ms. Nestor Jelen can speak to how many people utilize this road for access. 00:53:02.370 --> 00:53:09.299 - So there's one house that primarily uses this address. And then I know Ms. Perdue will state that this 00:53:09.299 --> 00:53:16.160 - is an access point for the land that she purchased, though you may not see it on the aerials. I think 00:53:16.160 --> 00:53:23.358 - that's an agricultural parcel. And then technically, the Kirkmans could use that frontage. I don't believe 00:53:23.358 --> 00:53:25.982 - they have a driveway off of that area. 00:53:26.178 --> 00:53:32.123 - but then the Kirkmans also have frontage on Ketchum and then the property to the north has access off 00:53:32.123 --> 00:53:38.184 - of Ketchum and we did as part of this process notice neighbors as a requirement that this would happen. 00:53:38.184 --> 00:53:44.071 - There's a separate code provision if there was a demonstrator to this request and they were you know 00:53:44.071 --> 00:53:50.074 - notified that this hearing was happening today so I don't believe anyone's in attendance but just want 00:53:50.074 --> 00:53:55.902 - to point that out. Okay so a follow-up to that because that was my second question you're just like 00:53:56.322 --> 00:54:09.463 - So the follow-up to that is the notification to adjoining property owners. Was it just a notification 00:54:09.463 --> 00:54:22.733 - that someone has petitioned to vacate the right-of-way, that the road vacation may happen as a result? 00:54:22.733 --> 00:54:25.438 - Is that part of what 00:54:25.762 --> 00:54:34.999 - these neighbors, how these neighbors were notified. I assume the neighbors were notified that there 00:54:34.999 --> 00:54:43.774 - was a request for a vacation of the right of way. I think Justin can speak to that. Thank you. 00:54:43.938 --> 00:54:50.629 - The notice says that the Board of Commissioners will conduct a public hearing for the petition to vacate 00:54:50.629 --> 00:54:57.320 - part of West Marshall May Road, described as roadway along the west end of West Marshall May Road. Also, 00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:04.203 - I want to add that in the subdivision plans in the application, which were done by a professional surveyor, 00:55:04.203 --> 00:55:07.198 - there was an option for waiver of requirements 00:55:07.298 --> 00:55:16.828 - It's a box that you check and that box was checked. No. So there was no request at the time the subdivision 00:55:16.828 --> 00:55:25.740 - was initially planned for any waiver. OK. OK. So Mr. Ayers, if you were to look through the driveway 00:55:25.740 --> 00:55:35.358 - permit file, how many driveway permits are there on West Marshall Road? None. Marshall May Road? None. None. 00:55:36.834 --> 00:55:48.778 - even though there is at least one homeowner who requires. Answers are it could have been there prior 00:55:48.778 --> 00:55:59.894 - to to when permitting started in 1968. Yeah, well. OK, so. My take on this right now is that. 00:55:59.894 --> 00:56:06.398 - I I feel like. The the fairest and easiest thing to do 00:56:07.010 --> 00:56:16.677 - would be to consider a vacation of the entire roadway, making it a private road or a driveway easement 00:56:16.677 --> 00:56:26.344 - or whatever it might become or be called at that point. I don't think it's a good thing to try to peel 00:56:26.344 --> 00:56:35.166 - off just the right of way. It makes life too difficult because if we're asked to maintain it, 00:56:36.610 --> 00:56:45.842 - we're going to need some access, and we're going to need to turn around. So it seems to me, especially 00:56:45.842 --> 00:56:54.804 - given that we have potentially two access points for people who are required to use that road, that 00:56:54.804 --> 00:57:03.856 - we should notify by letter, again, all of the homeowners, property owners in that area, but let them 00:57:03.856 --> 00:57:06.366 - know that we're considering 00:57:06.690 --> 00:57:16.211 - vacating the entire roadway. And it sounds like that would be an amenable solution to highway. Yes? 00:57:16.211 --> 00:57:26.018 - OK. But I feel like we haven't given those property owners that notice that that's a potential outcome 00:57:26.018 --> 00:57:34.206 - based on what I read and based on what we've heard. And I just don't feel comfortable 00:57:34.978 --> 00:57:43.010 - voting on this at all today because we don't have that notice, to be fair. So what are your thoughts? 00:57:43.010 --> 00:57:50.885 - I think that's fair and I especially feel that's something we haven't done ever in the past, yes. I 00:57:50.885 --> 00:57:57.342 - was also curious why did it come into the county inventory to begin with in 1987? 00:57:57.858 --> 00:58:05.999 - My understanding is there was a whole bunch of roads that were accepted in 1987 at one time. I think 00:58:05.999 --> 00:58:14.060 - a lot of them were like these little dead end roads. It was probably, I'm going to guess, I'm going 00:58:14.060 --> 00:58:22.362 - to throw a dart here. That was probably at a time when they were changing the structure of how roadway 00:58:22.362 --> 00:58:25.022 - funding occurred related to gas. 00:58:25.602 --> 00:58:36.378 - the number of miles of roadway or something like that. I'm guessing. I'm just throwing that out there. 00:58:36.378 --> 00:58:47.049 - But yeah. All right. Because if you see a wholesale shift like that, there's a reason. All right. OK. 00:58:47.049 --> 00:58:54.686 - So I would like to because for me, I think it's either point one or two. 00:58:54.786 --> 00:59:05.623 - I don't think .3 is viable for our highway department, and it certainly makes more trouble than the 00:59:05.623 --> 00:59:16.786 - benefits of having this bit of land in our roadway inventory at the moment. From what I know about the 00:59:16.786 --> 00:59:20.254 - process, that makes sense, yes. 00:59:23.586 --> 00:59:31.715 - anything else you wanted to add anything else, please. I think for clarification purposes, it would 00:59:31.715 --> 00:59:40.006 - be nice to understand from staff's perspective where we're considering the vacation of right away. Is 00:59:40.006 --> 00:59:48.460 - it from South Ketchum or is it just in front of the Pardue property? I'm not sure that that's been made 00:59:48.460 --> 00:59:52.606 - clear by the petitioner. Yeah, well, I think we've 00:59:52.930 --> 00:59:59.164 - We've both discussed that that's not an interest to us, that we would vacate the whole roadway, which 00:59:59.164 --> 01:00:05.338 - is not terribly long. It's not a... The entire road. It would be the roadway that we're considering. 01:00:05.338 --> 01:00:11.511 - But of course, we feel like we need to have a notice going out to these neighbors again with that as 01:00:11.511 --> 01:00:17.929 - a potential because we haven't heard from them and they didn't know that that was a possibility, I feel, 01:00:17.929 --> 01:00:20.190 - based on the contents of the letter. 01:00:20.290 --> 01:00:32.340 - the roadway. Um so but that's what I would consider would be because there's no point in. Vacating part 01:00:32.340 --> 01:00:44.158 - of the roadway because there's no turnaround and it's you know, it's so it just. Am I correct in that 01:00:48.610 --> 01:00:55.329 - I would just say that we put those options because we weren't sure what Ms. Pardue wanted to do. I don't 01:00:55.329 --> 01:01:01.664 - know if she wants to vacate the entire roadway. Oh, I know. I'm going to talk to her next. Gotcha. 01:01:01.664 --> 01:01:08.127 - For sure. But I feel like, for me, that's the only viable option. Either we vacate the whole roadway 01:01:08.127 --> 01:01:12.478 - or things stay as they are and she installs those no parking signs. 01:01:12.770 --> 01:01:19.501 - that I think did that pass traffic commission? Miss Ridge, do you remember? I think it did. Yeah. It's 01:01:19.501 --> 01:01:26.036 - been a few months, but I believe I went to them and it was passed. So that's still an option on the 01:01:26.036 --> 01:01:32.701 - table. Okay. All right. Thank you. Ms. Pardue, did you have any further comment? It sounds like we're 01:01:32.701 --> 01:01:37.406 - not going to be voting today on this, so. No. Okay. So the reason why I 01:01:37.858 --> 01:01:43.623 - to not go with the no parking signs and try to get the vacation is because then I can't even park on 01:01:43.623 --> 01:01:49.445 - my property. My car can get towed. Any machinery that I leave parked there can get towed. And I don't 01:01:49.445 --> 01:01:55.381 - feel like that is fair when I am going to be farming this property. And so that makes it more difficult 01:01:55.381 --> 01:02:01.089 - for me. And so currently, while this property or this roadway only serves one house, yes, but there 01:02:01.089 --> 01:02:07.025 - are community members who will drop their kayaks in the creek from this road. And so if you guys vacate 01:02:07.025 --> 01:02:07.824 - this roadway, 01:02:07.824 --> 01:02:13.704 - Then it puts then the property owners at burden for a trespassing of all of these people that come to 01:02:13.704 --> 01:02:19.469 - utilize the creek and so anybody that will now drive on this road that has been a legit county road 01:02:19.469 --> 01:02:24.542 - for a long time will now be trespassing on private property to access the creek and so. 01:02:24.994 --> 01:02:31.413 - That will be a thing that the property owners will now have to deal with. And again, the only reason 01:02:31.413 --> 01:02:38.023 - that I'm asking for a vacation of this easement is because when Eric Decker did the survey, even though 01:02:38.023 --> 01:02:43.934 - it shows that there's a check to box to waive it, it was made very clear that this that are. 01:02:44.994 --> 01:02:51.368 - our plan, whatever, would not be approved unless this dedication happens, right? And at the same time, 01:02:51.368 --> 01:02:57.742 - Monroe County took out two acres of the land that I was buying and claimed it as park and rec land for 01:02:57.742 --> 01:03:04.178 - the rails and trails. So they took out two acres of the 136 parcel of the land, and so they wanted this 01:03:04.178 --> 01:03:10.613 - 25-foot easement for parking for access for the rails and trails. Well, Parks and Rec had to do a quick 01:03:10.613 --> 01:03:11.294 - claim deed 01:03:11.394 --> 01:03:18.765 - back in April to release the land back to me because they did not own that land. And so now I feel like 01:03:18.765 --> 01:03:25.853 - the property owners that are at the end of the roadway are now going to be punished for maintaining 01:03:25.853 --> 01:03:33.295 - like snow removal and whatever, because now that it doesn't serve the county any longer, it's just gonna 01:03:33.295 --> 01:03:37.406 - be their responsibility. Right, and this is what happens. 01:03:37.794 --> 01:03:46.042 - I think you have a choice in front of you, and perhaps I should, I recommend that you think about it 01:03:46.042 --> 01:03:54.454 - and then contact Mr. Roddy and or Ms. Nestor Jelen once you've thought about it. You have two options. 01:03:54.454 --> 01:04:01.886 - Either this remains a county road, as is, and you can utilize no parking signs, et cetera. 01:04:03.362 --> 01:04:10.707 - You could make a little driveway off this road with the driveway permit and park your vehicle there 01:04:10.707 --> 01:04:18.199 - because that would be your property. Put a private property sign up. If that's the issue, it would be 01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:25.618 - just like any other county road that is gravel road, not necessarily an improved road or paved road, 01:04:25.618 --> 01:04:30.686 - but it is a gravel road. That's option one. That means snow removal, 01:04:30.818 --> 01:04:38.751 - maintaining, taking out trees, maintaining the gravel, et cetera. Option two is it becomes an easement, 01:04:38.751 --> 01:04:46.532 - a private road. A shared driveway, I think, is probably the most appropriate way to say it. And those 01:04:46.532 --> 01:04:54.542 - who use the shared driveway have to maintain it if you want it maintained. If you don't want to maintain 01:04:54.542 --> 01:04:58.814 - it, you don't have to maintain it. It's a shared drive. 01:04:59.202 --> 01:05:07.199 - You all have to just figure that out. No, I understand. So I think those are your options because what 01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:14.963 - we've, I think, clearly said here is we're not interested in vacating the right of way. It's either 01:05:14.963 --> 01:05:22.728 - the whole kit and caboodle, as they say, the entire road gets vacated, start to finish, or, and not 01:05:22.728 --> 01:05:28.318 - even just part of all of it, or we leave things as they are. So I think 01:05:28.450 --> 01:05:36.191 - those are the only two options we can offer. And you might want to think about it. And if you do want 01:05:36.191 --> 01:05:43.781 - to proceed with the road vacation, then I would ask that we contact those property owners by letter 01:05:43.781 --> 01:05:51.371 - of a hearing similar to this, invite them to come or to send an email or letter or ask questions or 01:05:51.371 --> 01:05:57.822 - whatever, because I don't think they were clearly made aware that this is an option. 01:05:58.082 --> 01:06:08.262 - So I don't feel comfortable voting on it today. So that's it. Those are your options. We can't customize 01:06:08.262 --> 01:06:18.054 - a menu because you have ag land or there's a creek. Because when we operate, and I'm sure Lisa Ridge 01:06:18.054 --> 01:06:27.070 - can back me up on this, when you have a highway department, these little nuances are killer. 01:06:27.618 --> 01:06:34.141 - They you know oh don't go that road you can't turn around there and on this road you can only turn around 01:06:34.141 --> 01:06:40.542 - here and on this one. There's a no parking but people can park there to put a kayak in the in the creek 01:06:40.542 --> 01:06:43.742 - and we can't operate that way because as much as we 01:06:44.450 --> 01:06:50.154 - like to think of ourselves as Mayberry, we're not Mayberry. We have over 700 miles of county road. Please 01:06:50.154 --> 01:06:55.589 - know that I wasn't asking for you to operate that way and I wasn't expecting that. I was letting you 01:06:55.589 --> 01:07:01.077 - know the people that utilize this road for in for what and so again I'm not going to ask for vacation 01:07:01.077 --> 01:07:06.566 - of the roadway because I do not want to be held legally financially responsible for what it will cost 01:07:06.566 --> 01:07:10.494 - to for the property owners to come up. So if you vote no on the easement 01:07:10.594 --> 01:07:17.526 - That is what I'm asking for. I'm asking for vacation and the easement because your current ordinance 01:07:17.526 --> 01:07:24.457 - does not have that as a stipulation. And so if we look at the clause to be able to do this, I sent a 01:07:24.457 --> 01:07:31.526 - letter to an email to the legal that shows that per the Supreme Court, Dolan versus California Coastal 01:07:31.526 --> 01:07:37.566 - Commissions and Dolan versus the city of Taggart, which established the nexus and rough 01:07:37.730 --> 01:07:45.700 - I can't say that word, but which established the test that would state why property can be taken by 01:07:45.700 --> 01:07:53.829 - government or required easements. Neither of those tests are met for this dedication of right away in 01:07:53.829 --> 01:08:02.436 - my land. And so the rough proportionality says the amount of extraction or whatever of land must correspond 01:08:02.436 --> 01:08:07.696 - to the burden placed on government from the proposed development. 01:08:07.696 --> 01:08:14.743 - So there isn't any increased burden on the government. And then the nexus is the direct connection between 01:08:14.743 --> 01:08:21.526 - the government demand from the property owner and public purpose, which again, there's not an increase 01:08:21.526 --> 01:08:28.638 - in whatever. And so under those two rulings or whatever, the land that was taken or the requirement of that 01:08:28.770 --> 01:08:33.763 - is it met by that? And so that was my argument. It's just there wasn't a reason for that land and it's 01:08:33.763 --> 01:08:38.708 - no longer required. And that's the only reason I'm asking for this so that I can protect my land from 01:08:38.708 --> 01:08:43.605 - people parking on it, from littering it, from me having to clean up the land. That's all I'm asking. 01:08:43.605 --> 01:08:48.501 - And so if you refuse, if you vote no on the easement, I will let you guys vote no on vacation on the 01:08:48.501 --> 01:08:53.398 - easement if you want to vote on vacation or the roadway. But I'm not going to ask for that because I 01:08:53.398 --> 01:08:55.870 - don't want to carry the financial burden for that. 01:08:58.050 --> 01:09:05.277 - Mr. Roddy, did you want to respond to? We're not here today for taking his claim. We're here today about 01:09:05.277 --> 01:09:12.229 - platted land. I think that this meets the taking requirements of rough proportionality. It sounds to 01:09:12.229 --> 01:09:19.526 - me like there is no request to vacate the entire roadway. It sounds to me like the board of commissioners 01:09:19.526 --> 01:09:27.166 - does not want to vacate just the easement. So I would propose that if that's the case, the vote just be known. 01:09:27.458 --> 01:09:34.957 - If there's a new matter before about vacating the entire roadway, we can start. We can hear that. Okay. 01:09:34.957 --> 01:09:42.673 - And I would assume we could hear that without an additional cost if it's from the same petitioner, because 01:09:42.673 --> 01:09:50.316 - I don't want to, I don't want to financially impact a single petitioner who now has to come back because, 01:09:50.316 --> 01:09:56.734 - you know, the goalposts have moved a bit. Not from our doing, but I just feel like it's, 01:09:57.154 --> 01:10:06.019 - planning is very complex and we can't always count on the public to understand the whys and wherefores 01:10:06.019 --> 01:10:14.626 - and the rules and all of that. And so I would ask that if the petitioner does wish to come back for 01:10:14.626 --> 01:10:24.094 - a vacation, the roadway petition that we would do so without an additional cost for that. Okay, so thank you. 01:10:24.290 --> 01:10:33.269 - appreciate that. Let's and thank you, Ms. Purdy for coming. I appreciate you've got a lot to deal with. 01:10:33.269 --> 01:10:42.248 - I understand that. I think you have some options. I would ask that you exercise those options regarding 01:10:42.248 --> 01:10:50.622 - no parking signs, et cetera. But I want to see if there's any other public comment on this item. 01:10:55.330 --> 01:11:08.666 - either in support of the petition or in opposition to the petition. With that, I'm going to go ahead 01:11:08.666 --> 01:11:21.869 - and close the public hearing. And I will go ahead and make a motion to I'm going to say it this way 01:11:21.869 --> 01:11:24.510 - because it's clear. 01:11:24.642 --> 01:11:36.261 - I'm going to move approval of ordinance twenty twenty five dash twenty seven I'm going to need a second. 01:11:36.261 --> 01:11:47.438 - I will second that okay- all those in favor of approving the vacation of the right away say aye aye. 01:11:47.438 --> 01:11:54.078 - All those opposed no. So we're split which means it doesn't 01:11:54.594 --> 01:12:01.210 - The option is on the table to vacate the entire roadway if you choose at any time in the future that 01:12:01.210 --> 01:12:07.957 - that may seem like a better option for you. And we will go through that process. Mr. Cockrell, did you 01:12:07.957 --> 01:12:14.638 - have something you wanted to? I would just say a one-to-one vote is neither approval nor disapproval, 01:12:14.638 --> 01:12:21.582 - so the item is still in front of you. If you wish to resolve it given the current vote, I would recommend 01:12:21.582 --> 01:12:23.678 - tabling it to a future meeting. 01:12:25.090 --> 01:12:32.101 - Okay. I thought it just didn't pass. Okay. Well, it doesn't pass, but it doesn't fail either, right? 01:12:32.101 --> 01:12:39.529 - So it's, it's still in limbo. Okay. So we can't have a purgatory vote. Um, I don't really want to continue 01:12:39.529 --> 01:12:46.679 - this to a particular meeting because I don't know when there's going to be three of us to have a vote. 01:12:46.679 --> 01:12:52.094 - I may have misunderstood my vote. Ah, okay. So I thought I was voting to just 01:12:53.346 --> 01:13:02.895 - move this along in the sense of we were basically going to say no easement. Ah, OK. So the request on 01:13:02.895 --> 01:13:12.350 - this ordinance is to vacate the right of way. Oh, so yes. And so that was my, and that's, instead of 01:13:12.350 --> 01:13:21.150 - doing a negative motion, I did a positive motion, and I am still, it's still difficult. Yeah. 01:13:21.410 --> 01:13:29.149 - want to bring this back for a vote at this moment. I would like to bring it back for a vote. Or would 01:13:29.149 --> 01:13:36.964 - you like to wait till next meeting? No, let's bring it back. OK. Yes. May we just go ahead and revote, 01:13:36.964 --> 01:13:45.235 - sir? We don't need another motion. I think that's appropriate. OK. All those in favor of approving ordinance 01:13:45.235 --> 01:13:50.622 - 2025-27 signify by saying aye. All opposed say no. No. And now we have 01:13:50.818 --> 01:13:59.433 - a zero to vote. There we go. It fails. Yes. Thank you. OK. No, that's sorry for the misunderstanding. 01:13:59.433 --> 01:14:07.879 - All right. So that's where we are. And I do invite you to consider the roadway vacation. And if you 01:14:07.879 --> 01:14:16.663 - do feel like that's something you want to do, that we would just have to notify your neighbors as well. 01:14:16.663 --> 01:14:20.126 - OK. Thank you so much. OK. So with that, 01:14:30.370 --> 01:14:39.432 - in the right papers. Here we go. All right. I have, we don't have any appointments today. I think we 01:14:39.432 --> 01:14:48.942 - have some boarding commission cleanup work that we're gonna be completing here in the next several weeks. 01:14:48.942 --> 01:14:56.478 - So watch for that. We do and are accepting applications for boards and commissions. 01:14:56.642 --> 01:15:04.772 - And we encourage folks to consider applying. Just go to our website, Indiana.gov slash county slash 01:15:04.772 --> 01:15:13.146 - Monroe, and look at the opportunities available. I will let you all know that some of the listings may 01:15:13.146 --> 01:15:21.926 - or may not be updated yet. And so if you're interested in something, just apply for it. And the application 01:15:21.926 --> 01:15:24.446 - is right there on the website. 01:15:25.474 --> 01:15:34.289 - recommend that folks, while they're on our website, sign up for a resident alert system to be notified 01:15:34.289 --> 01:15:43.275 - of any emergencies related to storms, road closures, etc. Just click on the link right on our home page. 01:15:43.275 --> 01:15:52.175 - And we also have a big calendar where all the meetings are posted and those include six different times 01:15:52.175 --> 01:15:53.630 - and days to have 01:15:54.146 --> 01:16:03.442 - office hours, where we have office hours. We invite the public to come see us via Teams to ask questions 01:16:03.442 --> 01:16:12.384 - and to have interesting conversations. My last one went an hour and 45 minutes, and it was great. So 01:16:12.384 --> 01:16:21.503 - it's all good. So I learn a lot, and I appreciate those folks who do participate. They make government 01:16:21.503 --> 01:16:22.654 - work better. 01:16:23.618 --> 01:16:36.339 - So I would like to take a second to make a note about we had the profile parkway, sunrise greetings, 01:16:36.339 --> 01:16:47.422 - ribbon cutting last week, which was great. And that's the culmination of a lot of work. 01:16:47.874 --> 01:16:57.389 - And tomorrow is the Fullerton Pike ribbon cutting. And that is a culmination of years of work and planning. 01:16:57.389 --> 01:17:06.287 - And all that went into that. Kudos, Lisa Ridge. Kudos, Highway Department. You work so well with the 01:17:06.287 --> 01:17:12.894 - residents, with INDOT, with utilities. And there's a beautiful roundabout. 01:17:13.378 --> 01:17:21.723 - It's it's an amazing project and that is that the longest bridge in the county. How many feet is it 01:17:21.723 --> 01:17:29.150 - 525 500 you know every foot of it 525 feet building the longest bridge in Monroe County. 01:17:30.146 --> 01:17:39.047 - That is amazing. And I can't thank you enough for all of that. So that's a great celebration. This week, 01:17:39.047 --> 01:17:48.032 - I had the honor of representing Monroe County at Beacon when we had the groundbreaking. That was amazing. 01:17:48.032 --> 01:17:56.594 - I know that the 500,000 ARPA dollars that we dedicated to that project allowed Beacon to be eligible 01:17:56.594 --> 01:17:57.950 - for that grant. 01:17:58.530 --> 01:18:06.326 - And so they are still short, a few hundred thousand dollars of their goal, but it is going to be an 01:18:06.326 --> 01:18:14.512 - amazing place. And I'm so proud of the hard work of the staff and the board and their campaign committee 01:18:14.512 --> 01:18:22.308 - and everybody in the community that's given donated time, donated money or both to help make Beacon 01:18:22.308 --> 01:18:27.454 - such an amazing place. So kudos to them. Congratulations to them. 01:18:27.586 --> 01:18:39.859 - So we've had all this really good news. And then last week, we heard that, indeed, the National Forest 01:18:39.859 --> 01:18:51.774 - Service has basically been told to stop all Houston South project activity. So even though they had 01:18:51.774 --> 01:18:57.374 - a timber auction a few, what, three weeks ago, 01:18:57.634 --> 01:19:08.834 - Um, Judge Pratt, um, and, um, at the, uh, U.S. District Court, Southern District of Indiana, made an 01:19:08.834 --> 01:19:19.923 - exceptional decision, um, and rendered an exceptional decision that is well thought out. And it, I, 01:19:19.923 --> 01:19:23.582 - I hope it sticks, um, long-term. 01:19:24.066 --> 01:19:32.096 - that was really good news. And so I just want to thank the Indiana Forest Alliance, Hoosier Environmental 01:19:32.096 --> 01:19:39.746 - Council, our county council for approving the legal fees and our portion of it. It's still upsetting 01:19:39.746 --> 01:19:47.549 - to me that the city of Bloomington did not feel like they needed to contribute or help in any way, but 01:19:47.549 --> 01:19:48.382 - we did it. 01:19:48.514 --> 01:19:57.177 - And friends of Lake Monroe, also a huge part of this. So this is a statewide coalition of people who 01:19:57.177 --> 01:20:06.097 - care about the forest, old growth forest, wildlife, our air quality. I know one of our biggest concerns 01:20:06.097 --> 01:20:14.846 - was water quality for Lake Monroe. And this feels like such a momentous ruling. So lots of good news. 01:20:14.978 --> 01:20:23.478 - in the last several days. And so I just want to thank everybody who's been involved in that for so long, 01:20:23.478 --> 01:20:31.736 - who've made this happen. So it's good to end on that note. All right. So I, do you have anything else 01:20:31.736 --> 01:20:33.598 - for good of the order? 01:20:33.890 --> 01:20:40.443 - No, just a tremendous job by the fundraising committee at Beacon. They have really worked hard to put 01:20:40.443 --> 01:20:46.932 - together a tremendous amount of money in a very short period of time for that project. Little way to 01:20:46.932 --> 01:20:53.356 - go, but. Yeah, they've done amazing work. Yeah. And Cory Fest in Steinsville this weekend, so we'll 01:20:53.356 --> 01:20:58.046 - be there in the parade with our shiny red truck. And I'm not driving it. 01:20:58.338 --> 01:21:07.437 - trying to stay out of the way. And our next meeting will be on Thursday, October 2nd. I can't believe 01:21:07.437 --> 01:21:16.357 - it's going to be October already, but here it is. And we do not have a work session today, correct? 01:21:16.357 --> 01:21:23.582 - Right. All right. And with that, we are adjourned. Thank you, everyone. Be well.