WEBVTT 00:00:00.418 --> 00:00:08.091 - Good morning, everyone. I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Monroe County Board of Commissioners. 00:00:08.091 --> 00:00:15.693 - It is Thursday, December 18th. We've had lots of end of the year activity in our office, and so I apologize 00:00:15.693 --> 00:00:23.295 - for the start. We're going to begin with our public statements. We the Monroe County Board of Commissioners 00:00:23.295 --> 00:00:29.982 - renew our commitment to welcome and protect the rights of all people, regardless of age, race, 00:00:30.146 --> 00:00:37.289 - color, creed, disability, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, marital status, economic status, 00:00:37.289 --> 00:00:44.294 - and national origin. And we affirm the right of every person to live peacefully and without fear, and 00:00:44.294 --> 00:00:51.162 - we will fight and resist at every step, discrimination and harmful policies, whatever their source. 00:00:51.162 --> 00:00:56.862 - We believe in diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging, and we stand in support 00:00:57.122 --> 00:01:08.413 - of our county public school systems, both RBB and MCCSC. All right. And with that, we will move on to 00:01:08.413 --> 00:01:17.822 - our department updates. Ms. Kelly's here. Good morning. Good morning, commissioners. 00:01:18.050 --> 00:01:24.800 - Just a few updates. According to the Indiana Department of Health dashboard, as of December 16th, there 00:01:24.800 --> 00:01:31.809 - have been no increases in emergency department visits for COVID-like illness, but wastewater concentrations 00:01:31.809 --> 00:01:38.429 - are continuing to trend up. According to data from wastewater scan, we are now seeing moderate levels 00:01:38.429 --> 00:01:40.766 - of flu, but very low levels of RSV. 00:01:41.346 --> 00:01:48.983 - The health department still has free COVID tests available. Anyone can walk in Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. 00:01:48.983 --> 00:01:56.283 - to 4 p.m. to pick up free tests. And the public health clinic located at 333 East Miller Drive has vaccines 00:01:56.283 --> 00:02:03.447 - available. You can call 812-353-3244 for an appointment. Great. Thank you so much. Comments or questions? 00:02:03.447 --> 00:02:10.206 - Commissioner Jones? No, I don't. Thank you. Commissioner Madeira? No, thank you. Thank you so much. 00:02:11.170 --> 00:02:20.447 - any other department updates for us for items? It could be on teams or you can come to the podium here 00:02:20.447 --> 00:02:29.814 - in that you hill room. Okay, seeing none, we will now move on to public comment. Public comment is time 00:02:29.814 --> 00:02:38.821 - reserved for items that are not on our agenda. We ask speakers to limit their time to three minutes 00:02:38.821 --> 00:02:39.902 - per person. 00:02:40.354 --> 00:02:50.919 - and to please provide their name and their county of residence when they speak. You raise your hand 00:02:50.919 --> 00:03:01.696 - on teams or come to the podium here in the NETU Hill Room. We have someone online TSD called with the 00:03:01.696 --> 00:03:09.726 - name or the initials ES. Good morning, commissioners. Can you hear me okay? 00:03:10.146 --> 00:03:18.296 - We can thank you. Yes, this is Eric spoon more proud Monroe County resident and taxpayer. I would like 00:03:18.296 --> 00:03:26.209 - to encourage the commissioners to establish just some basic standards of decorum for your meetings. 00:03:26.209 --> 00:03:34.359 - We hear the opening public statement each week and see the sign that's displayed there behind you that 00:03:34.359 --> 00:03:39.582 - says this is a space for no hate or something to that effect yet. 00:03:40.130 --> 00:03:47.166 - The community is becoming routinely subjected to some of the most hateful, vulgar expletives in the 00:03:47.166 --> 00:03:54.201 - English language in these meetings. And it kind of gives the perception that control has been lost. 00:03:54.201 --> 00:04:01.588 - And I can't imagine that's the perception that some of you are going for. Or maybe it is. I really don't 00:04:01.588 --> 00:04:06.654 - know. But I do think we can debate flashpoint issues in a spirited way. 00:04:07.554 --> 00:04:13.187 - that doesn't involve cursing and shouting obscenities to make our points. And so when it feels like 00:04:13.187 --> 00:04:19.046 - control has been lost in these meetings, it becomes less welcoming and less inclusive for the community 00:04:19.046 --> 00:04:24.848 - as a space. And I think that preserving an inclusive and welcoming environment are the kinds of values 00:04:24.848 --> 00:04:30.875 - our community wants to see reflected in your management of these meetings. So please consider establishing 00:04:30.875 --> 00:04:36.734 - some basic standards of decorum. I think it would be easy. You have the ability to do that if you want. 00:04:37.474 --> 00:04:49.486 - and I'd encourage you to do so. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else have public comment for items not 00:04:49.486 --> 00:05:01.618 - on our agenda? All right. We will now move on to the next item, please. Move approval of the minutes 00:05:01.618 --> 00:05:05.342 - for December 18, 2025. Second. 00:05:06.242 --> 00:05:15.522 - We have a motion and we have a second. Any comments, corrections, or edits? Seeing none, all those in 00:05:15.522 --> 00:05:24.985 - favor of approving the minutes for December 18th, 2025, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. 00:05:24.985 --> 00:05:34.174 - Next item, please. Move approval of the claims docket, accounts payable December 18th, 2025. Second. 00:05:34.594 --> 00:05:45.319 - We have a motion and we have a second. Good morning. Good morning. I have two items I'm going to read. 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:56.045 - The first is the accounts payable claims docket for December 18th, 2025, which totals $113,777,463.57. 00:05:56.045 --> 00:06:03.230 - This includes all emergency claims and adjustments. Okay. Thank you. 00:06:04.162 --> 00:06:16.489 - I'm going to I have two things. So first I do want to ask a question. There was a unapproved claim that 00:06:16.489 --> 00:06:28.934 - was in the second motion. Okay. Is that all that's in the second motion? Yes. Okay. And does this amount 00:06:28.934 --> 00:06:33.438 - include that amount? Okay. Thank you. 00:06:34.274 --> 00:06:53.451 - questions. All right. I'm going to make a motion to remove. A $30,000 item from this claim. Because 00:06:53.451 --> 00:07:04.190 - we have not heard it here. At a commissioner's meeting. 00:07:04.802 --> 00:07:13.246 - Second. All right. We have a motion and we have a second. Any public comment on the motion to amend? 00:07:36.418 --> 00:07:42.919 - Good morning, Council. My name is Clark Greiner. I'm the interim president for the Bloomington Economic 00:07:42.919 --> 00:07:49.482 - Development Corporation. I wanted to just mention that I think funding of the BEDC is an important thing 00:07:49.482 --> 00:07:55.857 - to consider from now into the future, and I'd like to see if there's anything we can do to get you to 00:07:55.857 --> 00:08:02.295 - reconsider those opportunities. The BEDC has been instrumental, particularly over this last past year, 00:08:02.295 --> 00:08:03.358 - with the CEMTRA, 00:08:03.874 --> 00:08:10.003 - Tax abatement. We led the way on that work very closely with the county on this. We have lots 00:08:10.003 --> 00:08:16.522 - of opportunities now we're working on out at the airport and many, many other things that we do. We 00:08:16.522 --> 00:08:23.368 - we act as I believe the lead economic development organization for Monroe County overall. So we continue 00:08:23.368 --> 00:08:29.953 - York would appreciate your support financially to help us continue to level up our expertise and our 00:08:29.953 --> 00:08:33.278 - business attraction business retention program so. 00:08:33.602 --> 00:08:42.368 - Thank you. Thank you. It's not, we're pulling it out of the claims because we don't have anything that 00:08:42.368 --> 00:08:50.878 - we've approved on our agenda. Okay. It's a technicality. So we will be considering this, I believe, 00:08:50.878 --> 00:08:58.878 - in January. I don't know which meeting, but early first or second week of January. All right. 00:08:59.970 --> 00:09:09.234 - Thank you. Well, then I'll get it. I'll get to come back and say it again. Keep an eye on the agenda. 00:09:09.234 --> 00:09:18.317 - I'll do it. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Any other public comment on the amendment? Seeing none, 00:09:18.317 --> 00:09:28.126 - all those in favor of approving the amendment to the claim, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. 00:09:29.122 --> 00:09:36.792 - You have another item. I think you just voted on the amendment. You might want to vote on the rest of 00:09:36.792 --> 00:09:44.687 - the claim document. But it sounds like there's another potential amendment here. I think it's a separate 00:09:44.687 --> 00:09:52.883 - item. It's totally separate. OK. It's not part of this. All right. Great. I didn't know if we had amendments 00:09:52.883 --> 00:09:58.974 - coming from. No. No. Excellent. OK. So now we'll be taking public comment on the 00:09:59.490 --> 00:10:08.036 - amended claims docket. You may raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those 00:10:08.036 --> 00:10:16.834 - in favor of approving the amended claims docket for Council Pable, December 18th, 2025 signify by saying 00:10:16.834 --> 00:10:19.934 - aye. Aye. Motion carries three zero. 00:10:25.026 --> 00:10:34.608 - The uncertified claims docket for December 18th, 2025 totals $15. I'm not sure we do. We have to vote 00:10:34.608 --> 00:10:44.378 - on this. Mr. Cocker. I think you should because it is a claim request. Okay. Um, that doesn't mean that 00:10:44.378 --> 00:10:50.014 - we're supporting its payment, right? Okay. I think that if, 00:10:50.626 --> 00:10:59.030 - If you approve the uncertified, then it will get paid. If you do not approve the uncertified, then it 00:10:59.030 --> 00:11:07.433 - will not get paid. I think that's the gist of it. I'm picking up what you're putting down. All right. 00:11:07.433 --> 00:11:16.002 - So I'm going to go ahead and make a motion that the uncertified claim of $15 on the claims docket today 00:11:16.002 --> 00:11:20.286 - is not paid. So a vote yes is a vote not to pay it. 00:11:20.418 --> 00:11:34.192 - Do I have a second? Second. Any public comment on this item? All right. Seeing none. All those in favor 00:11:34.192 --> 00:11:48.894 - of denying the unapproved claim signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. Was that sufficient, sir? 00:11:49.474 --> 00:12:00.595 - Yes. Thank you. Something new all the time, you know, doing this for years. All right. Um, so we don't 00:12:00.595 --> 00:12:11.716 - have any reports today. Um, and we'll move on to our next agenda item. Please move approval of integra 00:12:11.716 --> 00:12:19.166 - realty resources agreement. Fund name reassessment fund number 1224. 00:12:19.618 --> 00:12:31.662 - in the amount of $17,170. I'm not sure what this amount is. Could you tell us what the amount is, ma'am? 00:12:31.662 --> 00:12:43.476 - Of course. I'm Judy Sharp, county assessor. Gil, put the glasses back on. The total amount, phase one, 00:12:43.476 --> 00:12:48.638 - will be $17,700. Is that what you're asking? 00:12:50.018 --> 00:12:58.833 - Can you go ahead and finish your motion? The amount is $17,700. Second. We have a motion and a second. 00:12:58.833 --> 00:13:07.476 - Assessor Sharp. Okay, thank you. Good morning. What this is is two appraisals that I'm going to have 00:13:07.476 --> 00:13:14.750 - to have with David Hall Integra tax again. They've been doing our appraisals for us. 00:13:14.850 --> 00:13:22.670 - I have to have an appraisal when this goes up to the state, when an appeal goes. These two are at the 00:13:22.670 --> 00:13:30.489 - state. I'll lose if I don't have an appraisal. That's bottom line. And so anyway, David will do this. 00:13:30.489 --> 00:13:38.462 - We've spelled this out to you guys. It's a lot to read. I know the scope and all of this kind of stuff. 00:13:40.482 --> 00:13:48.083 - phase one fees valuation or report 5900 then they have to do the written is 4300 and then it just you 00:13:48.083 --> 00:13:55.684 - know goes on and on this is not overnight this doesn't get done overnight so but he does put a cap on 00:13:55.684 --> 00:14:03.285 - on how much the appraisal will cost what I don't know yet is when we if if we go to state which we're 00:14:03.285 --> 00:14:09.470 - going to the state I mean it's already set but sometimes if the if the people that 00:14:09.858 --> 00:14:17.319 - are filing these things against us. They don't have an appraisal and they don't usually want some of 00:14:17.319 --> 00:14:24.928 - them. Yes, let me. Most of them will get an appraisal, but these two so far not one would have not had 00:14:24.928 --> 00:14:32.611 - an appraisal. So with our appraisal and they see it, maybe they'll pull it their appeal. If they don't, 00:14:32.611 --> 00:14:39.038 - what happens when we go to the state? It's a it's a court of law and we'll be up there 00:14:39.490 --> 00:14:46.010 - depending upon the most I've ever had to sit there, it was five days. And, uh, God, please never have 00:14:46.010 --> 00:14:52.785 - to do another five days, but, um, it will be two or three days. And the, unfortunately our, um, appraiser 00:14:52.785 --> 00:14:59.241 - has to be there also because you have to listen to the other side, you know, Jody, you've done this. 00:14:59.241 --> 00:15:05.697 - So that's where the fee comes in. That will be a little bit more, but we'll keep you guys appraised. 00:15:05.697 --> 00:15:07.998 - This comes out of reassessment. So, 00:15:09.922 --> 00:15:17.430 - That's for this year. We'll see what happens next year. All right. Thank you so much. Comments or questions? 00:15:17.430 --> 00:15:24.731 - Commissioner Madeira? I have none. Thank you. Commissioner Johns? No, I don't. Thank you. I don't either. 00:15:24.731 --> 00:15:31.825 - We've done this before. We've been there before. All right. Any public comment on this item? You raise 00:15:31.825 --> 00:15:34.718 - your hand on Teams or come to the podium. 00:15:40.738 --> 00:15:47.926 - all those in favor of approving the integral realty resources agreement signify by saying aye aye motion 00:15:47.926 --> 00:15:54.977 - carries three zero thank you everyone have a great holidays you too we'll see you the new year you too 00:15:54.977 --> 00:16:01.891 - thank you don't think we have to be back so anyway thank you we do but you don't um next week you're 00:16:01.891 --> 00:16:08.736 - not working next not a commissioner's meeting not a commissioner's meeting we have a meeting monday 00:16:08.736 --> 00:16:10.174 - night thank you okay 00:16:10.594 --> 00:16:22.084 - The fund never ends. All right. Next item, please. Move approval of the Harold Fish agreement to replace 00:16:22.084 --> 00:16:33.575 - the controller in the clerk's office. Fund name 2025 GeoBond. Fund number 4820 in the amount of $23,845. 00:16:33.575 --> 00:16:38.718 - Second. We have a motion and we have a second. 00:16:39.554 --> 00:16:47.491 - Mr. Crider. Good morning, Commissioners. Richard Crider, Building and Fleet Manager. More controls expansion 00:16:47.491 --> 00:16:55.210 - at the Justice Building. This request is to accept the proposal submitted by HFI in the amount of $23,845 00:16:55.210 --> 00:17:03.075 - to replace HVAC controlling devices in the clerk's office and integrate the devices into the new supervisor 00:17:03.075 --> 00:17:08.318 - software. Thank you so much. Comments or questions, Commissioner Jones? 00:17:08.546 --> 00:17:16.090 - No, I don't. Commissioner Madeira? No, thank you. I don't either. Any public comment on this item? Raise 00:17:16.090 --> 00:17:23.490 - your hand in teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Harold Fish 00:17:23.490 --> 00:17:31.106 - HFI agreement to replace the controller in the clerk's office, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 00:17:31.106 --> 00:17:32.830 - 3-0. Next item, please. 00:17:34.530 --> 00:17:42.626 - move approval of waste of the waste management district green business network agreement renewal fund 00:17:42.626 --> 00:17:50.801 - name county general fund number one thousand in the amount of five thousand four hundred fifty dollars 00:17:50.801 --> 00:17:55.166 - second we have a motion and we have a second mr krater 00:17:56.386 --> 00:18:04.238 - Okay, this request is to accept the annual service contract renewal with the Green Business Network 00:18:04.238 --> 00:18:12.797 - for recycling pickup at multiple county buildings in the amount of $5,445. The contract details or community 00:18:12.797 --> 00:18:20.806 - corrections, that's 900 for one pickup a week. Courthouse, 900 for one pickup a week. Curry Building, 00:18:20.806 --> 00:18:26.302 - 900 one pickup a week. Health Building, $475 for two pickups a month. 00:18:26.690 --> 00:18:36.664 - Justice building, 900 for one pickup a week. Showers north, 900 for one pickup a week. Youth Services 00:18:36.664 --> 00:18:46.931 - Bureau, $475, twice a month. Okay. I don't think this math is correct. Uh-oh. It is not correct. I don't 00:18:46.931 --> 00:18:54.558 - think. So we have $4,500 with the one, two, three, four, five at 900. We have 00:18:56.194 --> 00:19:25.246 - Okay. I think that's where I got 00:19:25.474 --> 00:19:32.919 - Okay. Nothing to see here. All right. Uh, comments or questions? No, I don't. Commissioner Madeira. 00:19:32.919 --> 00:19:40.663 - Nope. Um, glad we're using the waste reduction district. Um, this is an important program. I know there 00:19:40.663 --> 00:19:48.331 - are some things they can't take like shredded paper as we found out on our tour of the health building 00:19:48.331 --> 00:19:53.022 - last week. Uh, but that doesn't mean that that can't be taken. 00:19:55.010 --> 00:20:03.747 - ourselves down to self walnut. But it really is a good program. And this is I encourage local businesses 00:20:03.747 --> 00:20:12.151 - to consider adding this to their services. All right. Any public comment on this item? You can raise 00:20:12.151 --> 00:20:15.646 - your hand on Teams or come to the podium. 00:20:25.922 --> 00:20:36.323 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Waste Reduction District Green Business Network Agreement 00:20:36.323 --> 00:20:46.432 - renewal, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. Next item, please. Move approval of resolution 00:20:46.432 --> 00:20:54.014 - 2025-53, surplus property for multiple departments. Second. We have a motion. 00:20:54.210 --> 00:21:01.216 - And we have a second, Mr. Crider. OK, this request is to approve surplus of items from multiple departments. 00:21:01.216 --> 00:21:07.900 - The Auditor's Office 21 office chairs that are damaged and or past service life. They will be discarded 00:21:07.900 --> 00:21:14.584 - as trash. Commissioner's Office 18 vehicles past service life. I'm recommended that these go for trade. 00:21:14.584 --> 00:21:21.333 - The Highway Department damaged aluminum street signs that will be sold for scrap to damage office chairs 00:21:21.333 --> 00:21:23.454 - that will be discarded as trash. 00:21:23.810 --> 00:21:31.876 - from the parks department, a broken kitchen stove from the commons building at Karst. This will also 00:21:31.876 --> 00:21:40.021 - be sold for scrap. Probation department, vehicle CC8, this is a typo. It's not a 2001 Ford Escape. It 00:21:40.021 --> 00:21:48.247 - is actually a 2011 Ford Escape. I just recognized that this morning. And from the prosecutor's office, 00:21:48.247 --> 00:21:53.118 - a broken metal shelf that will be sold for scrap. Excellent. 00:21:53.282 --> 00:22:00.261 - Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner Madeira. I find myself longing for the pictures 00:22:00.261 --> 00:22:07.036 - of the offending items. But I think I'm good otherwise. I do have one question. When it says go for 00:22:07.036 --> 00:22:14.286 - trade, what does that mean? It means, OK, this would mostly be police vehicles. And the vendor we purchase 00:22:14.286 --> 00:22:21.401 - new vehicles from, they'll do a trade-in evaluation of the vehicles. And then we receive credit. Gotcha. 00:22:21.401 --> 00:22:23.230 - Very efficient. Thank you. 00:22:24.738 --> 00:22:33.065 - Thank you so much. And I do have, I thought I included it in the packet. I, there is a, an exhibit a 00:22:33.065 --> 00:22:41.392 - with photos. I can get that to you. We'll just have to look at those. I always like to see a pile of 00:22:41.392 --> 00:22:48.318 - bad office chairs. They're in there. No, I don't. Thank you. Thank you so much. Um, 00:23:00.930 --> 00:23:09.054 - that the ARPA number? It is. The 8150. But that's the edit. This relates to the edit, not ARPA. Oh, 00:23:09.054 --> 00:23:17.178 - that's right. But I don't think that's the... I think we just leave the fund number off. Just leave 00:23:17.178 --> 00:23:25.465 - it, yeah. Yep. Okay. Sorry. It's okay. So, you know, it's the last meeting of the year. This is where 00:23:25.465 --> 00:23:28.958 - we do this stuff. Improvisational meeting. 00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:38.342 - So did you have any questions or comments on the items for? No, I don't. Okay. Any public comment on 00:23:38.342 --> 00:23:47.884 - this item? Raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium. Stay remembered where we were even. All right. 00:23:47.884 --> 00:23:56.886 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving resolution 2025-53, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion 00:23:56.886 --> 00:23:58.686 - carries three zero. 00:23:59.810 --> 00:24:12.472 - Thank you. See you next year. Okay, not if we see you first. All right, next item, please. Move approval 00:24:12.472 --> 00:24:24.531 - of Toshiba copier fleet agreement, fund name, cumulative capital, fund number 1138 in the amount of 00:24:24.531 --> 00:24:28.510 - $208,547 for a five-year period. 00:24:29.154 --> 00:24:36.169 - We have a motion. And we have a second. And we have Mr. Crone joining us. Let me get that. Good morning, 00:24:36.169 --> 00:24:43.118 - everyone. Greg Crone, Technical Services Department. About three years ago, we did a complete inventory 00:24:43.118 --> 00:24:49.999 - and appraisal of our fleet copiers. And at that time, we broke it into two groups, aging and dying and 00:24:49.999 --> 00:24:55.678 - soon to be. So three years ago, we replaced approximately 32 of the aging and dying. 00:24:56.290 --> 00:25:02.654 - We're three years into that five-year agreement, and now it's time to do the other 34 that we have in 00:25:02.654 --> 00:25:09.081 - our fleet. With this offset and the Toshiba working with us, even the combined of the two is less than 00:25:09.081 --> 00:25:15.320 - we were playing our previous vendor, so it is a cost savings even though we're gonna be running two 00:25:15.320 --> 00:25:21.560 - separate leases. So we've done our best to try to delay this out so we can get closer to the end of 00:25:21.560 --> 00:25:25.054 - this lease, and this is about as close as we could get. 00:25:25.506 --> 00:25:31.948 - Machines that we still have under Rico are old enough now. Parts has become difficult to get and they're 00:25:31.948 --> 00:25:38.082 - going to start changing their costs or discontinuing them altogether. So we've pushed as long as we 00:25:38.082 --> 00:25:44.524 - can drag that out to try to save some money. Thank you so much. Comments, questions. Commissioner Jones? 00:25:44.524 --> 00:25:51.027 - No, I don't. Commissioner Madeira? No. Thank you. I don't have any questions either. It seems like you've 00:25:51.027 --> 00:25:52.254 - got a batch working 00:25:53.442 --> 00:25:59.174 - in various cycles you just are doing this in great chunks. We're trying to keep it within two for the 00:25:59.174 --> 00:26:05.298 - management situation and it becomes a kind of a mess to try to track all those contracts and keep everything 00:26:05.298 --> 00:26:10.974 - up to date. So we at least wanted to get 75 to 80 percent into the current lease agreement before we 00:26:10.974 --> 00:26:16.593 - took on more and like I said we're getting ready to approach year four that original five-year with 00:26:16.593 --> 00:26:20.414 - Toshiba. So we've done pretty well with that. Good deal. Thank you. 00:26:20.706 --> 00:26:29.973 - All right, any public comment on this item? You raise your hand in teams or come to the podium. 00:26:29.973 --> 00:26:39.819 - All right, seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Toshiba copier fleet agreement signify by 00:26:39.819 --> 00:26:48.990 - saying aye. Aye. Motion carries three zero. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next item, please. 00:26:49.570 --> 00:27:00.618 - Move approval of the Strengthening Prevention Grant Amendment Number 2 for Disease Intervention Specialists 00:27:00.618 --> 00:27:11.052 - Fund Name STD Strengthening Prevention Fund Number 8112 in the amount of negative $58,835. Second. We 00:27:11.052 --> 00:27:18.110 - have a motion and we have a second. Oh, Ms. Kelly, tell us about it. 00:27:18.274 --> 00:27:25.914 - So we are here for approval for this is an amendment to our STD grant contract that provides grant funding 00:27:25.914 --> 00:27:33.054 - for our disease intervention services. So unfortunately we did not receive approval to move forward 00:27:33.054 --> 00:27:40.194 - in the hiring process for an additional grant funded position to provide these additional services. 00:27:40.194 --> 00:27:43.550 - Therefore this grant funding is being reduced. 00:27:43.874 --> 00:27:52.824 - This current grant ends February 28th, 2026. The Indiana Department of Health will still have to find 00:27:52.824 --> 00:28:01.599 - someone to provide the services for the additional four counties. So still yet to be seen what will 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:10.901 - happen with this grant next year. Comments or questions? Commissioner Jones. That's certainly unfortunate 00:28:10.901 --> 00:28:13.182 - that you won't be able to 00:28:13.506 --> 00:28:23.517 - take advantage of this, but. I hate to leave free money on the table for something as critical as STD 00:28:23.517 --> 00:28:34.018 - disease prevention, especially when the numbers are climbing, so. Yeah, this is hard for me to understand, 00:28:34.018 --> 00:28:39.710 - and it's not on the health department. I don't understand 00:28:40.322 --> 00:28:47.994 - I understand a hiring freeze, but if you have a grant funded position, then that person could be hired 00:28:47.994 --> 00:28:55.964 - until the grant is gone. And so we've missed out an opportunity here to hire somebody locally, potentially 00:28:55.964 --> 00:29:03.636 - in our community to do this important work. So very disappointing. That's the least of my words today. 00:29:03.636 --> 00:29:08.478 - All right, let's see if there's any public comment on this item. 00:29:09.314 --> 00:29:19.513 - raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. All right. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving 00:29:19.513 --> 00:29:29.319 - the strengthening prevention grant amendment number two for disease intervention specialist signify 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:33.438 - by saying aye. Motion carries. Thank you. 00:29:38.082 --> 00:29:48.777 - Move approval of the Koenig Equipment Inc. Service Agreement, fund names, county general, and parks 00:29:48.777 --> 00:29:59.258 - non-reverting, fund numbers 1000, 1178, 1179, and 4113 in an amount not to exceed $3,000. Second. 00:29:59.258 --> 00:30:04.606 - All right, we have a motion and we have a second. 00:30:05.442 --> 00:30:12.812 - Yes, this is for K-Nig equipment. They repair big things on our John Deere tractors. But we have an 00:30:12.812 --> 00:30:20.477 - in-house mechanic who does most of everything, except if it would be, you know. And John Deere tractors 00:30:20.477 --> 00:30:28.437 - last 40, 50 years. So we try to take very good care of them. Excellent. Comments or questions? Commissioner 00:30:28.437 --> 00:30:32.638 - Madeira? No, thank you. Commissioner Jones? No, I don't. 00:30:33.090 --> 00:30:43.435 - any public comment on the site and he raised hand on teams are come to the podium. I see none all those 00:30:43.435 --> 00:30:53.780 - in favor of approving the caning equipment in service agreement signify by saying aye. I motion carries 00:30:53.780 --> 00:31:02.334 - 3, 0, thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Happy holidays. I'm going to make a motion that we 00:31:04.578 --> 00:31:12.464 - I'm going to move item H, which is ordinance 2025-49, as apparently there are some other amendments 00:31:12.464 --> 00:31:20.507 - that need to be made on this, and we can hear this in January sometime. I won't set a date. That's my 00:31:20.507 --> 00:31:28.551 - motion. Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor of removing item H from the agenda, 00:31:28.551 --> 00:31:33.598 - signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. All right. 00:31:34.114 --> 00:31:41.798 - On to item I. Move approval of the ARPA plan amendment number 11. Second. We have a motion and we have 00:31:41.798 --> 00:31:49.407 - a second. Yes, this is somewhat of a housekeeping item and I would say it's somewhat related to K and 00:31:49.407 --> 00:31:56.941 - that that's a housekeeping item too. Neither of these have any change in appropriation or budget for 00:31:56.941 --> 00:32:01.566 - the ARPA plan. So the fund name, fund number and stuff aren't 00:32:01.922 --> 00:32:11.004 - aren't necessarily for either one of those items. But this is just kind of having our expenditures conform 00:32:11.004 --> 00:32:19.916 - with what we've actually done over the course of the year. I think the biggest change is we put a little 00:32:19.916 --> 00:32:24.414 - bit more money into our accounting group to do that. 00:32:24.578 --> 00:32:34.442 - This is essentially just to get the plan to match up with our current expenditures so that next year 00:32:34.442 --> 00:32:44.403 - when we go through the audit process, it's a clean audit trail for the people looking at our project. 00:32:44.403 --> 00:32:48.798 - All right, any comments, questions or edits? 00:32:55.074 --> 00:33:02.438 - We have not reallocated the money yet. We have to meet with council. Yeah, this does not change. I think 00:33:02.438 --> 00:33:09.662 - that what we're talking about is we are at the final stages of determining what a septic amount in the 00:33:09.662 --> 00:33:16.887 - contracts are. It looks like there's probably going to be over $200,000 more in that fund than we will 00:33:16.887 --> 00:33:21.726 - have contracts out for from that December 1st deadline, just kind of 00:33:22.722 --> 00:33:31.602 - that's not included in this motion that this motion still has a plan having the same amount in it. That 00:33:31.602 --> 00:33:40.567 - is a conversation for the council and the commissioners to have and will amend the plan after that again 00:33:40.567 --> 00:33:49.191 - once occurs. Right. But this is just a recognition that there's no physically possible way to get in 00:33:49.191 --> 00:33:52.350 - these septics by December 1st of 26. 00:33:53.602 --> 00:34:00.410 - Is it a very small window for installing? It's a high risk, right? The things we have under contract 00:34:00.410 --> 00:34:07.286 - now, we've talked with the vendors. They know they're a priority to make sure they're done first half 00:34:07.286 --> 00:34:14.229 - of next year, if possible. And if they can't, they're going to come back to us. So beyond that, it was 00:34:14.229 --> 00:34:20.094 - a huge gamble. If we have a really wet year again, we think we can get these in. Yeah. 00:34:20.258 --> 00:34:28.280 - It's still a bit of a gamble. And so this might still change, but at least it's a recognition that there 00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:36.072 - is some money at play. But there are very specific requirements for how that remaining money is used, 00:34:36.072 --> 00:34:43.789 - which if this is a restricted fund, so it goes back to restricted. It's only open projects, projects 00:34:43.789 --> 00:34:50.206 - that are not complete yet. It's a very small number. So we can't take on new items. 00:34:50.338 --> 00:34:56.216 - I know we're probably going to get a lot of suggestions from folks, but we can't create new projects 00:34:56.216 --> 00:35:01.570 - at this moment. Correct. I think we have to look with the projects we have and allocate the 00:35:01.570 --> 00:35:07.389 - money accordingly. Great. Any other comments or questions? Colleagues no? Okay. Any public comments 00:35:07.389 --> 00:35:11.230 - on this item? You raise your hand in teams or come to the podium. 00:35:19.970 --> 00:35:30.268 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the ARPA plan, amendment number 11, signify by saying aye. 00:35:30.268 --> 00:35:40.467 - Aye. Motion carries. Three, zero. And next item, please. Move approval of ordinance 2025-50, approving 00:35:40.467 --> 00:35:48.190 - the capital improvement plan for the economic development income tax or edit. 00:35:48.834 --> 00:36:04.392 - Fund name, edit, fund number 1112, in the amount of the edit cash balance, which is $22,501,043.70, 00:36:04.392 --> 00:36:17.150 - and estimated revenues, which is $24,692,000, oh, I'm sorry, $24,692,724. Second. 00:36:17.730 --> 00:36:24.155 - motion. We have a second. This one's going to take a little explanation and then I think we're going 00:36:24.155 --> 00:36:30.516 - to be making some amendments. Yes and and let me start with the explanation. Pursuant to state code 00:36:30.516 --> 00:36:37.259 - we have to have an edit plan in order to receive the economic development income tax and you know current 00:36:37.259 --> 00:36:43.620 - estimates are we're getting going to get a little over 12 million a year for the next two years and 00:36:43.620 --> 00:36:44.574 - then of course 00:36:44.738 --> 00:36:51.384 - 28 occurs and this funding source goes away. But in order to keep receiving those funds into there and 00:36:51.384 --> 00:36:57.900 - not have them segregated from the rest of our funds until we get this plan in place, we need to have 00:36:57.900 --> 00:37:04.417 - a plan in place. The plan has to encompass at least 75% of the revenue we expect to receive over the 00:37:04.417 --> 00:37:10.869 - life of the plan. So if it's two years, it has to be at least two years. And so since we anticipate 00:37:10.869 --> 00:37:12.030 - the plan will end 00:37:12.386 --> 00:37:18.673 - or the funding source will end at the end of 27, that really the number you've got to hit is about 19 00:37:18.673 --> 00:37:24.960 - million in the plan because five years, we're still getting the same amount of revenue because after, 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:31.370 - yeah. So that's the reason we have the plan on the agenda. We had a discussion with the county council, 00:37:31.370 --> 00:37:37.842 - with some county council members at our work session, I think two weeks ago, the county council reviewed 00:37:37.842 --> 00:37:39.198 - and at their meeting, 00:37:40.162 --> 00:37:46.281 - voted to recommend some amendments to the plan and so what you have in the packet is really two different 00:37:46.281 --> 00:37:52.111 - versions of the plan the first is the kind of the original one that was talked about at that meeting 00:37:52.111 --> 00:37:57.883 - and then given to the council for review and the second one is the amendments the amendments aren't 00:37:57.883 --> 00:38:03.655 - really clear from from how it's organized in the packet so i'm just going to go through them really 00:38:03.655 --> 00:38:08.446 - quickly right now the first one is that they they recommended that the plan expire 00:38:08.578 --> 00:38:15.396 - on December 31st, 2027 and again in order to do that we'd have to make sure it is in place by the end 00:38:15.396 --> 00:38:22.348 - by December 31st, 2025 because it has to be at least a two-year plan. The second is they wanted to have 00:38:22.348 --> 00:38:29.367 - the justice center project to be numbered project one justice center project and they wanted the general 00:38:29.367 --> 00:38:34.046 - or to be titled project one they wanted the general description to be 00:38:34.242 --> 00:38:42.917 - county justice center and or county jail project and they wanted the estimated cost to be changed from 00:38:42.917 --> 00:38:51.424 - 225 million to 150 million. And then I went ahead and renumbered the rest of the projects based upon 00:38:51.424 --> 00:38:58.078 - that. So, just to be clear, I'm sorry, just to you have to exhibit is correct. 00:38:58.498 --> 00:39:06.047 - You're looking at the second exhibit. Yeah. And I'm explaining the difference between the first exhibit 00:39:06.047 --> 00:39:13.161 - a and the second exhibit. Okay. Okay. Thank you. I'm just making sure we're all on the same page. 00:39:13.161 --> 00:39:20.638 - All right. Please continue. Okay. And so those are the basic changes the county council had requested. 00:39:20.638 --> 00:39:23.614 - Um, I did some renumbering. I think, uh, 00:39:24.322 --> 00:39:32.439 - I think the other thing that we would wanna think about is if we wanted to move it to December 31st, 00:39:32.439 --> 00:39:40.556 - 2027, we would also look at the transit portion of that because it says 200,000 per year, but in the 00:39:40.556 --> 00:39:48.914 - projected budget, we'd had a million, so clearly we would change that number to either 500,000 per year 00:39:48.914 --> 00:39:51.486 - or the total budget of 400,000. 00:39:51.874 --> 00:40:00.862 - In addition, I think after discussing, after talking with the airport director and then knowing that 00:40:00.862 --> 00:40:10.118 - we've received probably over the last three years, well over 750 million in projects that we're looking 00:40:10.118 --> 00:40:18.750 - at locating at the airport, that the term for the airport terminal project be changed to airport 00:40:18.882 --> 00:40:24.890 - economic development project would still encompass the terminal building if that's the direction we 00:40:24.890 --> 00:40:31.138 - chose, but it would also allow for that money to be used for maybe some infrastructural needs for maybe 00:40:31.138 --> 00:40:37.206 - some of those projects if we ever landed one. So I think that would be the recommendation from staff 00:40:37.206 --> 00:40:43.275 - to change that as well. Can you give me that language again? To change the airport terminal building 00:40:43.275 --> 00:40:48.862 - project to airport economic development projects. All right, yeah, it's much looser, bigger. 00:40:49.154 --> 00:40:58.034 - broader, okay. Economic development projects, plural, I would say plural. Can I ask a question just 00:40:58.034 --> 00:41:06.913 - for clarification on the 4.667, I believe that the council has put in, is that going to be, is that 00:41:06.913 --> 00:41:16.237 - specific to 26 or is it also for 27? It says 2026 operational costs. Yes. And it is listed in the budget 00:41:16.237 --> 00:41:17.214 - just once. 00:41:17.346 --> 00:41:26.282 - and the total for the two years is that same amount. It's not each year. Are you saying it needs to 00:41:26.282 --> 00:41:35.308 - be each year? I'm concerned it should be. If we get through budgets in summer of 26, gosh, it sounds 00:41:35.308 --> 00:41:44.423 - so far away, but it's going to be here before you know it. And it's determined that additional monies 00:41:44.423 --> 00:41:45.406 - are needed 00:41:46.978 --> 00:41:55.557 - another five million, for example, to for dealing with this is insurance, um, a county expense. Can 00:41:55.557 --> 00:42:04.307 - we change this plan again? This point could be amended. Okay. Um, so, so at any point, let's wait and 00:42:04.307 --> 00:42:12.971 - see, let's wait and see. Is that all right? Yeah. No, I'm glad you raised it. You're right. Wait and 00:42:12.971 --> 00:42:16.574 - see amend later. Okay. All right. So, um, 00:42:18.146 --> 00:42:29.677 - Now is the time to make some edits. So I am fine with setting the date at December 31st, 2027. In project 00:42:29.677 --> 00:42:40.556 - one, I would remove the Orr County Jail project and I would change that amount back to 225 million, 00:42:40.556 --> 00:42:48.062 - which doesn't remove anything the council has asked for. Item three, 00:42:48.866 --> 00:43:03.038 - So that's part one of my motion to amend. Item three, airport economic development projects, plural. 00:43:03.038 --> 00:43:17.630 - So just retitling it. Item five, transit 500,000 per year to come to that million that's in the budget. 00:43:20.066 --> 00:43:29.145 - That's my motion. Second. Thank you. Other, well, let's do this one first and then we'll hear other 00:43:29.145 --> 00:43:38.405 - motions to amend. Is that okay? Any thoughts or comments on what I've of the motion? Okay. Any public 00:43:38.405 --> 00:43:41.310 - comment on the motion to amend? 00:43:46.786 --> 00:43:53.873 - My name is Peter Iverson, a resident of Monroe County, and I am the President Pro Tem of the County 00:43:53.873 --> 00:44:01.101 - Council. Madam President, thank you for your amendments. We certainly appreciate keeping the dates as 00:44:01.101 --> 00:44:08.258 - we all know that the changes to edit are looming, so we appreciate that. We would prefer to keep the 00:44:08.258 --> 00:44:12.510 - and or in the description, but we understand the rationale. 00:44:12.610 --> 00:44:20.133 - the estimated total cost of that project we felt was inflated given the fact that we don't know where 00:44:20.133 --> 00:44:27.655 - we're going at this point. But of course, that can be edited. And I just wanted to thank Mr. Cockrell 00:44:27.655 --> 00:44:35.031 - for his work on the airport. We certainly think that's a worthy project here, and we're glad to see 00:44:35.031 --> 00:44:37.022 - that transit is expanding. 00:44:37.122 --> 00:44:49.034 - We would prefer that we keep the Justice Center and County Jail Project estimated cost at $150 million. 00:44:49.034 --> 00:45:00.831 - So we don't see the inflation in that. But otherwise, we are thankful for the amendment. OK. So before 00:45:00.831 --> 00:45:06.558 - we vote on our amendment, I have another question 00:45:07.234 --> 00:45:23.248 - The budget at the end does not include project one in that second exhibit one. So the projects are not 00:45:23.248 --> 00:45:37.086 - numbered correctly on our packet page 135. I understand and I can correct it for project 00:45:37.602 --> 00:45:45.635 - 2 through 5, I can add Project 1. I just would say that it was organized that way because I think we're 00:45:45.635 --> 00:45:53.358 - all under the understanding that under the current legislation, Project 1 can't be financed, right? 00:45:53.358 --> 00:46:01.236 - I mean, we could put Project 1 in there, but particularly if we're expiring this before in 27, unless 00:46:01.236 --> 00:46:06.334 - there's a legislative change, Project 1 is something that I think 00:46:06.434 --> 00:46:12.392 - everybody is interested in doing, but until those legends. So we, we kind of put within that project 00:46:12.392 --> 00:46:18.526 - and it's why it wasn't numbered. We put in that project kind of the legislative changes that were going 00:46:18.526 --> 00:46:24.484 - to be necessary in order to make that viable. And then there is language in there that if those come 00:46:24.484 --> 00:46:30.737 - and become viable, then this becomes the top priority project. Right. And so we kind of, it was organized 00:46:30.737 --> 00:46:35.102 - with the acknowledgement that yes, this would be our prop top priority if 00:46:35.810 --> 00:46:42.722 - the legislation was changed to allow it to become that, but right now it's not. And so it was kind of 00:46:42.722 --> 00:46:49.769 - organized to recognize that, but to kind of still meet the statutory requirements for funding that that 00:46:49.769 --> 00:46:56.749 - are possible. Okay. So then, um, so of course, if we, um, put more in our plan than we have to expend, 00:46:56.749 --> 00:47:01.086 - that's, there's nothing wrong with that. Right. So legally, if, 00:47:01.730 --> 00:47:10.086 - If it says make a plan for $20 million and you put $40 million worth of planning in there, it's okay, 00:47:10.086 --> 00:47:18.524 - right? Legally. Yes. Okay. So what I would ask is to, I mean, I would consider this just a Scrivener's 00:47:18.524 --> 00:47:26.961 - error. I would say that that project one needs to be listed and then, you know, project one, the total 00:47:26.961 --> 00:47:30.238 - amount to 25, if this amendment passes, 00:47:30.914 --> 00:47:37.930 - and then you have to renumber the projects at the end. So they match what's above two, three, four, 00:47:37.930 --> 00:47:45.157 - five, six. So delineate, yes, this is our priority. This is our second priority. And just list it that 00:47:45.157 --> 00:47:52.174 - way. And that way it's both in there. They're both in there and everything's listed correctly. Does 00:47:52.174 --> 00:47:59.471 - that make sense to everybody? I just think Scrivener's thing. Okay, so anyway, we've had public comment 00:47:59.471 --> 00:48:00.734 - on the amendment. 00:48:01.090 --> 00:48:10.232 - on the modifications of the expiration date, the titling of Project 1 and Project 3, and the amount 00:48:10.232 --> 00:48:19.373 - for Project 1, $225 million, and Project 5, $500,000 a year. So we've had public comment. All those 00:48:19.373 --> 00:48:28.789 - in favor of approving the amendment, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. Okay, so now it's 00:48:28.789 --> 00:48:29.886 - an amended. 00:48:31.106 --> 00:48:40.953 - and I want to see what other questions, comments, amendments you all have on this item. Have we covered? 00:48:40.953 --> 00:48:50.331 - Okay. Okay. So in terms of just the layout, you understand my point about put project one in there, 00:48:50.331 --> 00:48:59.803 - draw a line under it, say this is our priority, but legislative yada yada and then list projects two 00:48:59.803 --> 00:49:01.022 - through six. 00:49:01.314 --> 00:49:07.698 - So they match the the numbers above. And what I had actually what I had done and maybe I need to change 00:49:07.698 --> 00:49:14.020 - it is I put I just put project one at 225 million in that expenditures during the term of the plan and 00:49:14.020 --> 00:49:20.281 - I think that okay because I think the the legislative stuff is already in this plan. Yeah it seems to 00:49:20.281 --> 00:49:26.849 - me it is so okay I just didn't know if you weren't you were uncomfortable leaving it as here's our project 00:49:26.849 --> 00:49:29.182 - one two three okay perfect all right. 00:49:29.698 --> 00:49:42.060 - anything else on this item from my colleagues? Any public comment on this amended? Word Nance. Driver 00:49:42.060 --> 00:49:54.179 - some thank you, Madam President. First of all, I want to recognize that this is one of the examples 00:49:54.179 --> 00:49:59.390 - that we can hold up of the Council and the 00:49:59.586 --> 00:50:05.322 - We had that really healthy discussion at your work center. And then when we brought it to council, I 00:50:05.322 --> 00:50:10.718 - think we were able to work very closely with staff to make sure that the projects articulated. 00:50:10.786 --> 00:50:18.835 - We're put placed in here and I hope that as we move forward, we can hold this edit plan up as an example 00:50:18.835 --> 00:50:26.578 - of how we can work not only efficiently together but effectively together. And so I would also point 00:50:26.578 --> 00:50:30.334 - out that as we talked about this in the council. 00:50:30.402 --> 00:50:38.074 - the expenditures during the term of the plan on the second page was incredibly helpful for council members 00:50:38.074 --> 00:50:45.316 - that weren't part of that work center conversation to be able to see, oh, okay, project one has this 00:50:45.316 --> 00:50:52.701 - outflow, project two has this outflow, there's the total, it's under that 75% that the legislature has 00:50:52.701 --> 00:50:58.366 - set. So again, just I wanted to come up and say kumbaya. All right, thank you. 00:50:58.594 --> 00:51:05.529 - Any other comment on this? Yes, sir. What did we miss? Well, I was listening to what you said, and I 00:51:05.529 --> 00:51:12.670 - think this also encapsulates it. At the end of it, we have where we said the percentage of the projects 00:51:12.670 --> 00:51:19.605 - included in the plan. We have an asterisk, I think, adding to the language of that asterisk that the 00:51:19.605 --> 00:51:23.038 - percentage excludes the Justice Center project to 00:51:23.202 --> 00:51:31.387 - due to the current statutory framework not allowing for the financing of that project, I think would 00:51:31.387 --> 00:51:39.490 - be helpful in clarifying how all those numbers get put into place. Okay. I'm going to make a motion 00:51:39.490 --> 00:51:47.837 - that we amend the plan thusly. That's my motion. Second. All right, we have a motion and a second. Any 00:51:47.837 --> 00:51:51.646 - public comments on the second motion to amend? 00:51:54.114 --> 00:52:02.129 - And go ahead and read that again, Mr. Cockrell. If you would. At the the asterisk at the end of the 00:52:02.129 --> 00:52:10.144 - document includes ads language after estimates to the percentage excludes to justice justice center 00:52:10.144 --> 00:52:17.758 - project due to the current statutory framework not allowing for the financing of that project. 00:52:23.810 --> 00:52:32.597 - public comment on that? All those in favor of amending ordinance 2020-50 signify by saying aye. Aye. 00:52:32.597 --> 00:52:41.384 - Motion carries 3-0. So now we have an amended, amended ordinance. Anything else? No, my only comment 00:52:41.384 --> 00:52:50.345 - is that I think it's really important to keep the $225 million in there to send a clear message to the 00:52:50.345 --> 00:52:51.998 - legislature. Yeah. 00:52:52.226 --> 00:53:00.173 - we are really serious about these. Even if that's not the amount that actually ends up getting spent, 00:53:00.173 --> 00:53:08.198 - it sends a clear message that we are intent upon building this facility. And that message is important 00:53:08.198 --> 00:53:16.223 - to send. Absolutely. And this will never cover the whole project anyway, but it is certainly the plan, 00:53:16.223 --> 00:53:21.054 - the hope, the dream that we will have some information coming 00:53:22.626 --> 00:53:31.948 - um, from the legislature in early 2026 that they've helped us get this going. Um, and then it's a matter 00:53:31.948 --> 00:53:40.915 - of finding a piece of land, but we'll cross that rickety bridge when we get to it. Um, thank you for 00:53:40.915 --> 00:53:49.438 - that. Uh, I'll do another round of public comment on the amended amended, um, ordinance 2025-50 00:53:53.794 --> 00:54:03.510 - all right all those in favor of approving the amended amended ordinance uh 2025 50 signify by saying 00:54:03.510 --> 00:54:13.322 - aye aye motion carries uh three zero i don't have an amount for that item k that's what we're missing 00:54:13.322 --> 00:54:23.422 - we need an amount one moment there's no amount okay there's no amount there we go thank you all right um 00:54:24.802 --> 00:54:35.264 - Next item, please. Move approval of an amendment to ARPA agreement with the Convention Center Management 00:54:35.264 --> 00:54:45.627 - Company, fund name ARPA, fund number 7950. 8950. Oh, sorry. My handwriting. 8950. Thank you. All right. 00:54:45.627 --> 00:54:53.598 - We have a motion? Second. All right. Who's presenting this? I can present this. 00:54:53.858 --> 00:55:03.331 - and she is here to maybe fill in any factual holes in mine in my presentation. We approved a contract 00:55:03.331 --> 00:55:12.804 - for the Convention Center Management Company to utilize what we had allocated for ARPA to improve the 00:55:12.804 --> 00:55:22.462 - areas of the Convention Center. And as Richard Crider was working with the Convention Center Management 00:55:22.690 --> 00:55:29.231 - company. We actually got contracts and we actually got, you know, indications of this is what we're 00:55:29.231 --> 00:55:35.837 - going to spend here and there, where there was some general language of audio visual and things like 00:55:35.837 --> 00:55:42.443 - that in the original contract. So what this does is it takes out that audio visual language from the 00:55:42.443 --> 00:55:49.507 - contract or from the from the agreement and the list of exhibits. Exhibit B is what we're actually spending 00:55:49.507 --> 00:55:52.254 - it on, and exhibit A is what the original 00:55:52.610 --> 00:55:59.337 - intent was just to kind of so people can look at and say, well, here's where the changes were made along 00:55:59.337 --> 00:56:05.871 - those lines. So we're really just trying to clean up that contract to make sure it conforms with what 00:56:05.871 --> 00:56:12.341 - actually occurred. Again, this is done mostly for audit reasons to make sure that when the the audit 00:56:12.341 --> 00:56:19.068 - group comes in to audit our books, they have a clean, clear trail of how things were spent and the lines 00:56:19.068 --> 00:56:21.118 - of authority for that spending. 00:56:26.338 --> 00:56:33.645 - Any comments or questions, Commissioner Jones? No, I don't. Commissioner Medeira? No, thank you. Ms. 00:56:33.645 --> 00:56:41.313 - Coppock, did you want to add anything? Good morning. Hi, good morning. Talisha Coppock, Convention Center 00:56:41.313 --> 00:56:48.692 - Management Company. And just wanted to say the bottom line stays the same. We tried for a year to get 00:56:48.692 --> 00:56:52.382 - the existing building and the new building to talk 00:56:52.610 --> 00:56:59.539 - other with audio visual and it was just not making sense at all and so now the existing building audio 00:56:59.539 --> 00:57:06.332 - visual be taken care of by the capital improvement board so that just made a lot more sense and then 00:57:06.332 --> 00:57:13.059 - in the meantime with all of that we had some significant you know like the water heater that needed 00:57:13.059 --> 00:57:14.270 - to be replaced so 00:57:14.370 --> 00:57:21.598 - Just thank you so much these projects were invaluable for stabilizing the building and you know as you 00:57:21.598 --> 00:57:29.037 - know it's a hundred year old building and it's rocking at full tilt most of the time. So so we appreciate 00:57:29.037 --> 00:57:31.774 - that and appreciate your patience and. 00:57:32.002 --> 00:57:39.618 - I'm also impressed with the level of activity and detail and just my hats are off to all of you for 00:57:39.618 --> 00:57:47.539 - how, what a challenging job all this, all the topics that you deal with. But thank you to the auditor's 00:57:47.539 --> 00:57:55.154 - office, legal department, commissioners, everybody. Season's greetings. Greetings. Thank you. Thank 00:57:55.154 --> 00:57:56.830 - you for the, for the. 00:57:57.250 --> 00:58:04.664 - nice words we appreciate it yeah it's it's there's a lot of plates spinning all the time yeah you do 00:58:04.664 --> 00:58:12.077 - the same thing just in a different world yep all right uh any public comment on this item raise your 00:58:12.077 --> 00:58:19.637 - hand on teams or come to the podium let's see none um all those in favor of approving uh the amendment 00:58:19.637 --> 00:58:25.950 - to the arpa agreement with convention center management company signify by saying aye 00:58:26.530 --> 00:58:36.111 - aye motion carries three zero next item please move approval of milestone change order number one for 00:58:36.111 --> 00:58:45.505 - moores creek road stormwater project fund name stormwater fund number 1197 in an amount of negative 00:58:45.505 --> 00:58:52.926 - sixty seven thousand six hundred eighty nine dollars and eighteen cents second 00:58:53.378 --> 00:59:01.475 - the motion in a second. Thank you for your patience and waiting and welcome. Good morning. I'm happy 00:59:01.475 --> 00:59:09.492 - to end on a money back to us. Yeah, nice. So our milestone Moores Creek Road project, they paved it 00:59:09.492 --> 00:59:17.589 - last November, November 2024. They spent 2025 doing minor finishing up touches. So we're closing out 00:59:17.589 --> 00:59:21.598 - the contract and getting everything finished out. 00:59:22.178 --> 00:59:34.722 - So the total of our under run was $74,628.58. There was one change to the treatment of the subgrade 00:59:34.722 --> 00:59:47.266 - that cost an additional $6,939.40. So our total under run was $67,689.18 below the contract. Great, 00:59:47.266 --> 00:59:49.022 - it is nice to 00:59:49.282 --> 00:59:55.688 - have some money come back to stormwater to be used for something else. Amazing. All right. Uh, comments 00:59:55.688 --> 01:00:02.094 - or questions, commissioner Jones. No, I'm just pleased that we'll have this extra money for stormwater. 01:00:02.094 --> 01:00:08.561 - We could use it. We could use it. Uh, commissioner Madera. I think this is a good way to get money back. 01:00:08.561 --> 01:00:14.782 - Um, good way to end the meeting. Thank you. Yeah. We always, um, just like to remind folks that the, 01:00:15.298 --> 01:00:21.384 - three members of the board of commissioners and the surveyor make up the stormwater board. So we're 01:00:21.384 --> 01:00:27.470 - very happy. We've seen the money going out and we're so glad this project's done. So thanks for all 01:00:27.470 --> 01:00:33.555 - the hard work on that. That's not been an easy project. Yes. So the Moores Creek side is done. Stip 01:00:33.555 --> 01:00:39.763 - road is the other portion of that and that's finishing up. They're done paving. Guardrails went in so 01:00:39.763 --> 01:00:41.406 - the road should be opening 01:00:41.922 --> 01:00:47.735 - Hopefully by the end of this week, there's just some finishing touches, then they'll spend portion of 01:00:47.735 --> 01:00:53.947 - 2026 doing the final stabilization and final details. Good news for the folks who live out there, especially 01:00:53.947 --> 01:00:59.874 - because I think we're supposed to get an inch of rain today. Yes. I didn't know that. It's good to see. 01:00:59.874 --> 01:01:06.029 - Yeah, it is. Thank you for all your hard work and happy holidays to you from all of us. Any public comments 01:01:06.029 --> 01:01:09.790 - on this item? You raise your hand in teams or come to the podium. 01:01:19.490 --> 01:01:28.099 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the milestone change order number one for the Moores Creek 01:01:28.099 --> 01:01:36.377 - Road stormwater project signify by saying aye. Motion carries three zero. Give me one moment. Let's 01:01:36.377 --> 01:01:44.655 - take a quick 30 second pause if we might in the meeting. I'm gonna recess the meeting for a minute. 01:01:44.655 --> 01:01:45.566 - Thank you. 01:01:59.650 --> 01:02:19.752 - It's on the website. I would just add it as an item. Exactly, yeah. I pulled it off the website so I'm 01:02:19.752 --> 01:02:23.070 - sure it's there. 01:02:34.210 --> 01:02:44.097 - Thank you and we're back to our meeting. Thank you for your patience. We have an additional resolution 01:02:44.097 --> 01:02:54.079 - that is available on our website. It is not part of our packet. I'm going to go ahead and make a motion 01:02:54.079 --> 01:03:03.678 - to introduce and approve resolution 2025-58, a resolution regarding notice to homeless encampments. 01:03:04.130 --> 01:03:13.498 - second. All right, so we have a motion and we have a second. Mr. Cockrell. Yes, the resolution is based 01:03:13.498 --> 01:03:23.047 - upon the conversations that occurred at essentially the work session last Thursday. At that work session, 01:03:23.047 --> 01:03:28.542 - the discussion, the request was that the commissioners allow 01:03:29.378 --> 01:03:38.352 - uh, or require 30 days notice in the event that we are going to remove a homelessness encampments encampment. 01:03:38.352 --> 01:03:46.755 - Um, so this resolution recognizes that it also recognizes that we won't issue that 30 day notice until 01:03:46.755 --> 01:03:55.159 - March 2nd of this year or next year, 2026. Sorry. In the future a little bit there. Um, and that, that 01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:58.014 - this will, this is enforced unless 01:03:58.178 --> 01:04:05.707 - Uh, the commissioners get notice from, or unless you rescinded any notice meeting, or if the emergency 01:04:05.707 --> 01:04:13.163 - is determined and emergency is determined by law enforcement, the Monroe County health officer, or if 01:04:13.163 --> 01:04:20.545 - the removal is requested by the city of Bloomington. So I think we've, we've covered our bases with, 01:04:20.545 --> 01:04:25.662 - you know, I used the word if something became unstable at that, which 01:04:26.370 --> 01:04:33.633 - Granted is a pretty generic term, right? I agreed with them, but those are the people who can help, 01:04:33.633 --> 01:04:41.041 - who will let you guys know if it's unstable. And of course, if you can determine on your own, if it's 01:04:41.041 --> 01:04:48.376 - unstable, that is. And then it also has a section where you are going to request other Monroe County 01:04:48.376 --> 01:04:52.734 - and City of Bloomington elected leaders to meet and discuss 01:04:53.218 --> 01:05:04.029 - the steps to address the homelessness in the community. So those are kind of the two components of this 01:05:04.029 --> 01:05:15.464 - resolution. So I will say I appreciate that those authorities that may impact decision-making are delineated. 01:05:15.464 --> 01:05:19.934 - It's very clear, very transparent. I would 01:05:21.058 --> 01:05:38.646 - we've been stuck in paralysis by analysis for far too long. And so, um, I think we need some action 01:05:38.646 --> 01:05:50.782 - and, um, we'll be sending, um, an email invitation to our colleagues 01:05:52.802 --> 01:06:03.648 - Um, in a, the creation of a working group to determine, um, the next steps and, um, we'd really like 01:06:03.648 --> 01:06:14.601 - some action and some numbers and some specifics that would be incredibly helpful. Um, do you have any 01:06:14.601 --> 01:06:19.326 - comments or questions? Commissioner Maduro. 01:06:19.810 --> 01:06:28.029 - I just wanted to thank everyone for participating in the discussion last week. And it was, I think, 01:06:28.029 --> 01:06:36.330 - very, um, very eye opening and very beneficial. It was, and we do appreciate residents who have, um, 01:06:36.330 --> 01:06:44.877 - stepped up and we do expect and hope that they will continue to be part of that process. Um, of finding 01:06:44.877 --> 01:06:49.726 - a better way out of this. Um, so I, I agree with that. Um, 01:06:51.586 --> 01:07:01.751 - Any public comment on resolution 2025-58? Ms. Whitmer. I have not read the resolution, so forgive me 01:07:01.751 --> 01:07:11.915 - if I'm completely off base. For instance, at a park, if we have one tent, is that an encampment? And 01:07:11.915 --> 01:07:19.262 - the reason why is because in the old procedure, we would put the sign up 01:07:20.130 --> 01:07:27.611 - to tell them what we're doing. I can't remember, it's like five days total. But if that tent stays for 01:07:27.611 --> 01:07:35.165 - 30 days, we might have two tents and then three tents. I'm not sure what the resolution says, so. Well, 01:07:35.165 --> 01:07:42.428 - I think the resolution says that a reasonable person would conclude that the property is associated 01:07:42.428 --> 01:07:49.982 - with a homeless encampment. In my mind, one tent does not an encampment make, right? But if it grows to 01:07:50.338 --> 01:07:58.877 - two or three or four, then I think we're, it becomes an encampment, right? So we still go back to the 01:07:58.877 --> 01:08:07.416 - old procedure, which I don't have in front of me. Yeah. Okay. And we want to provide at least 30 days 01:08:07.416 --> 01:08:15.955 - notice. So it's not. For wing 10? Because that's not what- For, I guess- I'm glad you're asking these 01:08:15.955 --> 01:08:19.806 - questions. Thank you for- I think to clarify, 01:08:20.066 --> 01:08:26.956 - The intent is for this to deal with homeless encampments. If you have any other reasons that someone 01:08:26.956 --> 01:08:34.323 - is storing personal property on a county property, those rules are still in place. What this is essentially 01:08:34.323 --> 01:08:41.417 - doing is that if you were dealing with a homeless encampment, that 72 hour notice that's required under 01:08:41.417 --> 01:08:48.238 - our current code is going to become a 30 day notice for homeless encampments only. Right. More than 01:08:48.238 --> 01:08:49.534 - one tent. Correct. 01:08:52.290 --> 01:09:01.421 - Good questions. Peter Iverson, Monroe County residents, county council. Just the resolution is a little 01:09:01.421 --> 01:09:10.727 - hard to find. So I just wanted to encourage folks that when you go to the board of commissioners website, 01:09:10.727 --> 01:09:19.945 - you have to go down to the, all the way down to the agendas and packet section to get to the resolution. 01:09:19.945 --> 01:09:21.438 - I will say this, 01:09:22.210 --> 01:09:30.840 - The meeting on December 11th was really helpful. And the county council stands in solidarity with you 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:39.469 - in wanting a working group to talk about these issues. Clearly this resolution is a first step toward 01:09:39.469 --> 01:09:47.422 - that. And we see it as that. And I would just encourage you in the now therefore section that 01:09:47.522 --> 01:09:54.538 - when you direct people to give that notice, that 30 days notice, that it not only include Mineral County 01:09:54.538 --> 01:10:01.219 - staff, but also those street outreach folks, particularly through the contract that we have through 01:10:01.219 --> 01:10:07.967 - Health Net. So thank you for this, and I look forward to continuing this conversation. That wouldn't 01:10:07.967 --> 01:10:15.050 - be... There's nothing in our code that allows somebody who isn't a county personnel to issue that notice. 01:10:15.050 --> 01:10:17.054 - Right. It has to be counties. 01:10:17.250 --> 01:10:24.191 - staff who issues the notice for removal. That's a helpful clarification. It would not come from Health 01:10:24.191 --> 01:10:31.199 - Net. Health Net is called in to help before that time as early as possible. We notify them. And they're 01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:38.073 - there to take care of their patients. Right. They're not, they're not, they don't give notice. No. It 01:10:38.073 --> 01:10:43.262 - has to be the county that does it. Yes. Because it's county property. Right. 01:10:43.490 --> 01:10:50.531 - And then with the 30 day notice be public or would this be a notice solely to those experiencing 01:10:50.531 --> 01:10:58.080 - homelessness. Typically it's posted at the site with some conversations and you know it's not just like 01:10:58.080 --> 01:11:04.830 - quietly posted at dark and people run away. There are conversations that occur at that time. 01:11:04.930 --> 01:11:12.067 - Um, and again, that's a minimum, so it could be 60 days. It could be more. Yes. I can add that, um, 01:11:12.067 --> 01:11:19.348 - I reached out to Mary Morgan, um, and she's willing to act as the focal point for notices. So, um, if 01:11:19.348 --> 01:11:26.842 - there is such a notice, it would go, we could send it to her and she would ensure that it gets to health 01:11:26.842 --> 01:11:33.694 - net to beacon, um, wheeler, um, community kitchen. She would ensure that that way it's noticed. 01:11:33.794 --> 01:11:40.869 - And I guess from my perspective, I think this is a resolution. It's not amendment to our code or anything. 01:11:40.869 --> 01:11:47.812 - Sure. Precisely to give that, you know, that last two line thing has a lot of value here. It's precisely 01:11:47.812 --> 01:11:54.689 - to give that group the ability to make recommendations and to discuss how do we how how do we want that 01:11:54.689 --> 01:12:01.831 - done and what what areas do we want done? I mean, all those are great things, but I think that is something 01:12:01.831 --> 01:12:02.558 - we we left 01:12:03.490 --> 01:12:09.191 - intentionally vague in this. There were commitments made at the last week meeting, and we want to make 01:12:09.191 --> 01:12:14.948 - sure that those are involved. The other commitment was, hey, we're going to get together and work. Look 01:12:14.948 --> 01:12:20.871 - at this. And I think all those questions you just asked are great things for that group to kind of provide 01:12:20.871 --> 01:12:26.793 - feedback. Sure, sure. And the rationale for me bringing up the notice was that the last this last incident 01:12:26.793 --> 01:12:32.384 - that happened, the notice hit Reddit first. That's where some of us saw it first. And I just want to 01:12:32.384 --> 01:12:33.214 - make sure that 01:12:33.346 --> 01:12:41.941 - that doesn't happen again, because of course that started a rumor mill and that started all sorts of 01:12:41.941 --> 01:12:50.535 - hearsay. So I just wanna make sure that, you know, we're not, you know, we're just being above board 01:12:50.535 --> 01:12:59.130 - and we're being clear with what we're doing. We can look at that issue, but from our perspective, if 01:12:59.130 --> 01:13:01.342 - you have somebody who is, 01:13:01.922 --> 01:13:10.909 - If you're trespassing on county property, then the notice doesn't have to be voted on because that wrong 01:13:10.909 --> 01:13:19.554 - has already occurred, right? It's already an inconsistency with the legal standing of people on that 01:13:19.554 --> 01:13:28.798 - property. So we wouldn't vote on it publicly because that would mean we'd have to vote on everything we do. 01:13:28.930 --> 01:13:39.922 - But it's certainly something we can look at and will look at in terms of how the information gets out 01:13:39.922 --> 01:13:51.023 - to the community. But the information is targeted for and at that very specific location where there's 01:13:51.023 --> 01:13:58.782 - an encampment. And we don't want to make the situation harder for them. 01:14:00.674 --> 01:14:07.652 - Yeah. I think it's a very fine line, very fine line for the purposes of public comment. I think I'll 01:14:07.652 --> 01:14:14.700 - just leave it as I'm looking forward to continuing the conversation. We definitely have a lot more to 01:14:14.700 --> 01:14:21.747 - talk about for sure. Thank you. And any expenses that we've ever incurred as a result of clearing is, 01:14:21.747 --> 01:14:29.278 - is only in the cleanup. It is in bio one in D is who we use. We do have a contract right now that we haven't 01:14:29.858 --> 01:14:40.992 - implemented, activated. But that's the only expense we incur. And that's a cleanup, including biohazards 01:14:40.992 --> 01:14:51.702 - and syringes. And that's I think that's going to be a really helpful conversation to have as we move 01:14:51.702 --> 01:14:57.534 - forward. Yep. Thank you. All right. Looks like we have 01:15:00.642 --> 01:15:07.153 - of DH online. I see a second-hand race, but I can't see it on my screen. So we'll, oh, it's Mr. Henry, 01:15:07.153 --> 01:15:13.727 - County Council. Can you go ahead? Yeah, good afternoon. Yeah, good afternoon, commissioners. Thank you. 01:15:13.727 --> 01:15:20.112 - I'm going to make comments. David Henry, Winter County resident. Though I'll be putting on my hat as 01:15:20.112 --> 01:15:26.497 - a practitioner of emergency management and adjunct at IU's O'Neill School. I think the challenge I'm 01:15:26.497 --> 01:15:29.278 - having as I've seen this work through this, 01:15:29.858 --> 01:15:36.711 - resolution and the encampment over the past few weeks is that the fatal flaw is in the 2019 ordinance. 01:15:36.711 --> 01:15:43.364 - The resolution may address the ordinance, but the ordinance itself is the flawed piece here because 01:15:43.364 --> 01:15:50.084 - there's a almost dispassionate discussion about this being a property problem and a trespass problem 01:15:50.084 --> 01:15:55.806 - and not a humanity problem. If we were to imagine 70 people displaced from a tornado, 01:15:56.258 --> 01:16:01.703 - in our community that we'd have to find shelter for and connect to social services. We'd conduct this 01:16:01.703 --> 01:16:07.149 - work in a very different way. We would be leveraging our emergency management agency. We'd be writing 01:16:07.149 --> 01:16:12.594 - plans and preparing in advance with the partners we're tasking like Health Net and Beacon and Heading 01:16:12.594 --> 01:16:18.040 - Home and the Sheriff's Department that have roles in how to move a clearing or encampment. And that's 01:16:18.040 --> 01:16:23.538 - not what's going on in the ordinance. That's not what's going on in the resolution. The language still 01:16:23.538 --> 01:16:24.606 - speaks to a sort of 01:16:24.770 --> 01:16:30.553 - Uh, criminal trespass and then property management problem, which really, um, as I look around the room 01:16:30.553 --> 01:16:36.169 - and the people tasked with that, um, do not have the qualifications to manage an emergency like, um, 01:16:36.169 --> 01:16:41.841 - like we would a tornado, right? And so it's not really, I think, fair to our staff to utilize them in 01:16:41.841 --> 01:16:46.846 - that way when we have an emergency management agency and partners that are preparing for. 01:16:46.946 --> 01:16:52.313 - Things like encampments and so I look forward to bringing that into our conversation when we all meet 01:16:52.313 --> 01:16:57.627 - that the ordinance itself is the problem at this point. And it's really just putting mandates on the 01:16:57.627 --> 01:17:02.888 - gunshot wound that we've created with displacing people with nowhere to go. And then we really need 01:17:02.888 --> 01:17:08.149 - to recenter our thinking on this and it kind of gets back to a point, which I've made in the county 01:17:08.149 --> 01:17:10.622 - council meetings that we've yet to see in any. 01:17:11.170 --> 01:17:17.504 - conversations, the plan, the point of contact for this activity, and then who the media goes to. And 01:17:17.504 --> 01:17:23.901 - even in the context of this discussion, I just heard kind of revelations about health nets contacted, 01:17:23.901 --> 01:17:30.361 - having homes contacted. And yet that's not a plan. There's no checklist for that. And so I think those 01:17:30.361 --> 01:17:36.820 - are very important things we have to do to manage this better. And it's clear that, to me anyway, that 01:17:36.820 --> 01:17:41.022 - we can make a 30 day notice, 40 to five day notice, 15 day notice, 01:17:41.186 --> 01:17:47.185 - It's still just adding pieces to an ordinance that itself is not treating the challenge we're having 01:17:47.185 --> 01:17:53.243 - with encampments as the emergency they are. It's not a natural disaster. It's an economic one. And we 01:17:53.243 --> 01:17:59.242 - should start treating it that way to treat the humans in there with a little more dignity. Thank you 01:17:59.242 --> 01:18:03.518 - for your time. Thank you. Commissioner Madure, did you want to respond? 01:18:04.162 --> 01:18:10.606 - I think that the resolution is just a very tentative first step, and we have many, many conversations 01:18:10.606 --> 01:18:17.240 - to engage in, and those conversations will inform what takes place. So those factors certainly are among 01:18:17.240 --> 01:18:23.748 - those to be considered, but I think it's even broader than that. Yeah, and really, this is in response 01:18:23.748 --> 01:18:29.118 - to what folks wanted, what people in the community asked for. So I don't see this as 01:18:30.178 --> 01:18:37.738 - a wrong move at all, it is certainly temporary and we recognize that. You can tell that by the way that 01:18:37.738 --> 01:18:45.297 - it's written. And I don't appreciate the implication that there's no checklist or process because there 01:18:45.297 --> 01:18:52.712 - is a process and we've just now heard of another change in the process, but there is a process and we 01:18:52.712 --> 01:19:00.126 - have followed that and it is a bigger, broader problem, but it is not one the county can solve alone. 01:19:00.226 --> 01:19:09.156 - and it is not one emergency management can solve. It is one that is solved across the community that 01:19:09.156 --> 01:19:18.350 - includes the city. So we will be issuing an invitation soon to begin that process. We do recognize it's 01:19:18.350 --> 01:19:27.457 - a bigger problem. We said the same thing last week. So I'm not sure that there's a clear understanding 01:19:27.457 --> 01:19:28.606 - of what this 01:19:28.738 --> 01:19:36.750 - Um, is for, um, it provides exactly what, uh, the community, um, requested and we've done that. Um, 01:19:36.750 --> 01:19:44.762 - we also have Ashley with a hand raised if, uh, TST, if you could promote Ashley and then we'll come 01:19:44.762 --> 01:19:53.095 - back to the room for Mr. Davis. Uh, thank you commissioner. My name is Ashley Chaunting. I'm a resident 01:19:53.095 --> 01:19:57.662 - of the Thompson property that started this conversation. 01:19:58.306 --> 01:20:05.197 - I would like to push back. This is not what the community asked for. It is honestly, it has so many 01:20:05.197 --> 01:20:12.570 - caveats as to make it almost meaningless as protection against winter evictions. And it is very concerning 01:20:12.570 --> 01:20:19.667 - to me the lack of transparency and the lack of community involvement that are involved in the proposed 01:20:19.667 --> 01:20:27.454 - next steps. So we also look forward to continuing this conversation with you guys via the means available to us. 01:20:28.898 --> 01:20:39.699 - Thank you so much Ashley. Lee is also online. I know Lee has been waiting, but hadn't had their hand 01:20:39.699 --> 01:20:50.714 - raised. Well, we'll go ahead and hear from Mr. Davis in this room and then we'll. Hello, I think I got 01:20:50.714 --> 01:20:56.382 - it. Okay, go ahead. Yes, Ashley. Hi, my name is Lee. 01:20:57.890 --> 01:21:05.707 - The green paper, I just wanted to say, I object to the last minute addition to the agenda. I think that 01:21:05.707 --> 01:21:13.374 - if we're gonna, if this is important enough to do, it's enough to give adequate notice to everyone in 01:21:13.374 --> 01:21:21.041 - the community to know that this is gonna be on the agenda and be able to be here and think about this 01:21:21.041 --> 01:21:27.806 - as we go forward. Thank you. Thank you. And to both Ashley and Leah, I'd like to say that 01:21:27.938 --> 01:21:37.165 - What this does is it provides the assurances that were requested by the community. It doesn't solve 01:21:37.165 --> 01:21:46.669 - a long term problem. But what it does say is that there will be a minimum of 30 days notice that there 01:21:46.669 --> 01:21:54.974 - won't be a notice issued before March 2nd, 2026. So it has, it reflects what we had heard 01:21:55.202 --> 01:22:05.970 - our concern was that if we did nothing, we would be into January and folks would still not have that 01:22:05.970 --> 01:22:16.844 - certainty that they had been seeking last week. So again, it is the beginning, it is not the end. And 01:22:16.844 --> 01:22:23.454 - we do hope that the community participates as we move forward 01:22:23.746 --> 01:22:31.604 - looking at those next steps because that's an integral part of creating any solution. It's not just 01:22:31.604 --> 01:22:39.463 - going to be created amongst a few people. It will take the entire community and their input to make 01:22:39.463 --> 01:22:47.557 - this right. So thank you both. Mr. Davis, please. Even though I've introduced you. Introduce yourself, 01:22:47.557 --> 01:22:50.622 - please. And you'll have three minutes. 01:23:03.106 --> 01:23:13.400 - look to see the countdown it is on that screen okay so I talk TSD would you provide a larger clock on 01:23:13.400 --> 01:23:23.996 - one of the monitors please there you go thank you yes would you turn that okay that's that's great there 01:23:23.996 --> 01:23:31.262 - you go I can look at that one over there there's one right there easily 01:23:31.714 --> 01:23:40.802 - We got you covered. I'll try not to get whiplash. Can't do right for doing wrong. All right. Thank you 01:23:40.802 --> 01:23:50.419 - very much. My name is Joe Davis, Joseph B. Davis, and I would like to make some comments, ask some questions 01:23:50.419 --> 01:23:59.419 - regarding the resolution. I do think it is an improvement from the previous limiting two or three day 01:23:59.419 --> 01:24:00.478 - notice that 01:24:00.610 --> 01:24:10.954 - existed before. 30 days is certainly much better. The first question I would like to ask, I'm sorry 01:24:10.954 --> 01:24:21.297 - I have not read the resolution. I just read on Dave Askin's Thursday email that he sends out to the 01:24:21.297 --> 01:24:27.710 - public that the commissioners were having a meeting today and 01:24:27.938 --> 01:24:43.666 - I'm grateful to Dave Askins always for his community information. So the first question I have is there 01:24:43.666 --> 01:24:52.286 - a definition for what constitutes a homeless encampment? 01:24:53.090 --> 01:25:00.722 - So we won't answer questions, but we will take your questions under advisement. So please continue, 01:25:00.722 --> 01:25:08.660 - we're interested in this. Okay, I'm sorry, I got the impression from when our council person was making 01:25:08.660 --> 01:25:15.605 - comments, there was a dialogue back and forth, and I thought that was what was appropriate 01:25:15.605 --> 01:25:22.398 - in this circumstance. Okay, the second question is, which properties owned by the county 01:25:23.170 --> 01:25:32.130 - are going to follow these guidelines. For example, if someone were to camp out here, a single person, 01:25:32.130 --> 01:25:41.265 - that's an encampment. If they're more, then it's a larger number. But if a single person camps out here 01:25:41.265 --> 01:25:50.049 - on the courthouse grounds, are they going to have 30 days notice? Are they going to be able to move 01:25:50.049 --> 01:25:51.454 - their stuff out 01:25:51.682 --> 01:26:04.597 - be treated civilly. The next thing that I would like to ask is, is there a means for filing injunctions 01:26:04.597 --> 01:26:17.388 - when people are removed from the status quo? I know from media reports that some of the folks who were 01:26:17.388 --> 01:26:18.878 - cleared out 01:26:19.746 --> 01:26:31.127 - of that property recently had been there for maybe three years. The status quo was that they have been 01:26:31.127 --> 01:26:42.177 - there. And in our courts of law, injunctions have the ability to maintain the status quo until this 01:26:42.177 --> 01:26:49.470 - issue gets before the court. So this brings, oh, I'm out of time. 01:26:49.634 --> 01:26:57.310 - I'm so sorry, three minutes is too little. You are invited to send additional questions you have to 01:26:57.310 --> 01:27:04.525 - us via email or you can call us or contact us in some way with your questions because they're 01:27:04.525 --> 01:27:12.738 - very interesting questions. We appreciate that. Okay, there's just one more thing I would like to mention. 01:27:12.738 --> 01:27:18.878 - This is a technical issue. My friend Lee Grundhafer who just spoke from online, 01:27:19.170 --> 01:27:26.385 - monitor spelled her name L E E. We don't control that. That's produced by the person who is signing 01:27:26.385 --> 01:27:33.672 - in. OK, well. And then the caption. The caption is the caption. Yep. We don't have somebody actually 01:27:33.672 --> 01:27:40.886 - typing. It's AI generated. So is there a way to train the AI so that they spell her name correctly? 01:27:40.886 --> 01:27:48.606 - I don't know. I don't know. Sorry. Thank you very much. Sorry. They get me wrong all the time. So it's OK. 01:27:48.994 --> 01:28:02.432 - Exactly. That's why we need to train the AI that is serving our people. Thank you. All right. Okay. 01:28:02.432 --> 01:28:15.198 - So with that, I do want to see if there is any other comments or questions from my colleagues. 01:28:15.778 --> 01:28:21.777 - No, I just wanted to address something that I just heard. Just to make clear, there was no one removed 01:28:21.777 --> 01:28:27.601 - from the encampment. And so there was a suggestion that some people who were removed had been there 01:28:27.601 --> 01:28:33.601 - for three years. No one was removed from the Thompson property. So just to clarify that the the actual 01:28:33.601 --> 01:28:39.425 - encampment that was was handled, I believe, on Monday, Browns Woods that Monday on December 8th was 01:28:39.425 --> 01:28:44.958 - actually a city property. That's city. That was a city encampment. So that was not the county. 01:28:45.602 --> 01:28:53.030 - I know it can be hard to keep the two distinct on some areas. Yeah, for sure. All right. All right. 01:28:53.030 --> 01:29:00.680 - So we're ready for vote on this item. Okay. All those in favor of approving resolution 2025-58 signify 01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:08.257 - by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries three zero. And despite the fact that we heard somebody say, well, 01:29:08.257 --> 01:29:10.782 - this isn't what we wanted at all. 01:29:11.362 --> 01:29:20.682 - This is what we heard. This is what we heard most folks wanted. And we know this isn't the end. This 01:29:20.682 --> 01:29:30.002 - is the beginning. So we appreciate everybody's participation and assistance with this. All right. So 01:29:30.002 --> 01:29:39.322 - do you have some appointments? I'm going to go ahead and make a motion for the Historic Preservation 01:29:39.322 --> 01:29:40.798 - Board of Review 01:29:41.250 --> 01:29:49.657 - These are four-year terms through January 1st, 2029. These are reappointments. Don Hall, Michael Rushton, 01:29:49.657 --> 01:29:57.984 - and Colby Wicker. For the licensing board, this is a two-year appointment ending in January 1st of 2028. 01:29:57.984 --> 01:30:05.915 - Bill Rigert. The Monroe Fire Protection District. These are four-year appointments that run through 01:30:05.915 --> 01:30:11.070 - December 31st, 2029. Vicki Sorensen, John Bernstein, Mike Baker, 01:30:11.490 --> 01:30:21.659 - Kevin Robling for the Opioid Settlement Board of Review. This is a two-year appointment ending December 01:30:21.659 --> 01:30:32.220 - 31st, 2027. I have that wrong in my notes. And that would be Kathy Hewitt for the Redevelopment Commission. 01:30:32.220 --> 01:30:41.118 - These are one-year appointments ending December 31st, 2026. Richard Martin and Mike Jones. 01:30:43.234 --> 01:30:51.785 - motion. Second. We have a second. Thanks to everyone who have who have been serving and serving so ably 01:30:51.785 --> 01:31:00.501 - and capably and doing so much for Monroe County. These are all reappointments so thank you for re-upping. 01:31:00.501 --> 01:31:09.052 - We appreciate it. All those in favor of approving these appointments signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion 01:31:09.052 --> 01:31:12.094 - carries three zero. I will note that 01:31:12.258 --> 01:31:24.932 - We have some pretty important openings on boards and commissions, and this comes with a bit of news 01:31:24.932 --> 01:31:38.747 - as well, but we have three members of our Board of Health are stepping down, and that includes Lee McKinley, 01:31:38.747 --> 01:31:41.662 - but Aurora Don DeOrio, 01:31:42.082 --> 01:31:52.400 - has, she's currently the chair of that board, has really made a big difference for Monroe County and 01:31:52.400 --> 01:32:03.331 - public health. And Dr. George Hegeman, who has been on that board for more than two decades. It's amazing. 01:32:03.331 --> 01:32:08.030 - He's a professor emeritus in biology from IU. 01:32:08.162 --> 01:32:15.304 - And he's very active elsewhere in the community. We are going to miss him. And we really do hope that 01:32:15.304 --> 01:32:22.376 - he stays in touch and keeps providing public comment and input because he's so thoughtful. And we're 01:32:22.376 --> 01:32:28.958 - going to miss all three of them. But my gosh, more than two decades on a board of commission. 01:32:29.090 --> 01:32:38.850 - that is impressive. So many thanks. So we do have openings for the Board of Health. We also have openings 01:32:38.850 --> 01:32:48.150 - in animal management. There are a number of those. So we're going to try to figure out a way to post 01:32:48.150 --> 01:32:57.726 - something on the homepage, Angie, that the real way. Angie, if you would, we're gonna try to figure out 01:32:58.210 --> 01:33:06.233 - Um, some way to post a notice so that folks know exactly what's available, what's open and what we need 01:33:06.233 --> 01:33:14.024 - help with. So we would appreciate it and you can apply online. You don't have to come in. Um, and we 01:33:14.024 --> 01:33:21.739 - really do appreciate those, those folks who serve, um, is, um, another announcement, um, uh, we are 01:33:21.739 --> 01:33:24.670 - planning as of now to meet on Monday. 01:33:25.090 --> 01:33:36.130 - uh, December 22nd at five PM. And this is a, uh, related to the Monroe Fire Protection District. Um, 01:33:36.130 --> 01:33:47.280 - and it concerns, uh, Bean Blossom. And I know that we have had conversations with Polk Township, Salt 01:33:47.280 --> 01:33:54.494 - Township, and we've, we've had, um, some, uh, conversations about 01:33:54.754 --> 01:34:14.494 - we're going to be holding those. Questions off until 2026, but early in the year, so stay tuned, 01:34:14.494 --> 01:34:22.430 - but we are. I'm going to meet Monday 5 01:34:23.426 --> 01:34:35.956 - that we had a pretty good turnout at both, um, to have these initial discussions and to talk through, 01:34:35.956 --> 01:34:49.101 - um, the tax issues and other things for residents. So, um. It's it's been a very, uh, interesting process. 01:34:49.101 --> 01:34:53.278 - Um, and, um, so so folks who, um, 01:34:53.474 --> 01:35:02.579 - questions. Um, please come to that meeting. You can join via teams or you can come here to the net you 01:35:02.579 --> 01:35:11.506 - Hill room and you are welcome to submit comments via email and it, um, we can, um, we will note them 01:35:11.506 --> 01:35:19.550 - during our meeting what we've received commentary wise and they become part of our record. 01:35:20.034 --> 01:35:30.596 - of decisions. So what you have to tell us is important. We have heard from a number of folks at Steinsville 01:35:30.596 --> 01:35:40.670 - over the course of these meetings. But we are under a time crunch because this is for, this would take 01:35:40.670 --> 01:35:49.374 - effect January 1st, 2027. And that's why we need to act sooner. Just a reminder as well, 01:35:49.538 --> 01:36:03.871 - that we do have office hours six times a month. You're invited to look at the calendar on our homepage 01:36:03.871 --> 01:36:12.638 - and join us on Teams for a conversation. We do recommend folks 01:36:13.026 --> 01:36:24.847 - that. Um sign up for the resident alert system, especially. It seems like there's no bad time of year 01:36:24.847 --> 01:36:36.436 - to do it. But with winter weather. You never know. So we do need, um, we do need that. Um. And, um. 01:36:36.436 --> 01:36:42.462 - I will note that we are closed. Oh, I don't have my 01:36:42.658 --> 01:36:54.999 - I'm gonna go look at the calendar. Yeah, I believe so too. I just wanna get that clear. Yeah, 24th, 01:36:54.999 --> 01:37:07.587 - 25th, 26th, January 1st and 2nd, correct? 31st. Right, 31st, 1st and 2nd. Okay, so there you go. That 01:37:07.587 --> 01:37:12.030 - was clear as mud, sorry. But we do. 01:37:12.194 --> 01:37:21.652 - We do want to wish everyone in the community happy holidays, whether it be Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, 01:37:21.652 --> 01:37:30.584 - a peaceful winter solstice, Happy Kwanzaa. There's a lot to celebrate this time of year. And I really 01:37:30.584 --> 01:37:39.604 - appreciate my colleagues. I just want to thank you both for an amazing year. And I do want to just put 01:37:39.604 --> 01:37:40.830 - out a message 01:37:42.626 --> 01:37:51.568 - and this is for our colleagues in county government. It's for everyone in the community. Let's just 01:37:51.568 --> 01:38:00.689 - try to be more kind in 2026. That's just what I'm gonna ask for. Anything you wanna add? Anything you 01:38:00.689 --> 01:38:10.526 - wanna add? No, I just appreciate my colleagues. I appreciate everybody in county government and city as well. 01:38:10.658 --> 01:38:17.704 - We work so hard to serve the public in these buildings and I appreciate when the public responds and 01:38:17.704 --> 01:38:24.890 - recognizes that It is always very nice and everybody who works for the county enjoys hearing that too. 01:38:24.890 --> 01:38:32.005 - Yeah for sure We have great employees in this county boy. They got us through that storm last weekend 01:38:32.005 --> 01:38:37.726 - But they did it they figured out how to do it We have amazing employees every day 01:38:37.826 --> 01:38:47.043 - they come to work to serve residents. And that is mind blowing. And it's a thankless job, but it is 01:38:47.043 --> 01:38:56.444 - a good idea to thank them. All right. Our next meeting is January 8th of 2026. Sounds like a long way 01:38:56.444 --> 01:39:06.398 - off. Blink will be here. And I do want to thank everyone, all of our colleagues in our office and legal and 01:39:06.754 --> 01:39:15.926 - everywhere. TSD, thank you. We appreciate you. Yay, thumbs up. Cats, we always appreciate you. And unless 01:39:15.926 --> 01:39:23.454 - there's anything else, happy holidays, happy 2026. We are adjourned. Thanks, everyone.