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- Good morning. I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Monroe County Board of Commissioners. It

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- is Thursday, March 26th, and I'll note for the record that all three commissioners are here and present

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- in the NatU Hill Room. We'll begin with our public statement. We, the Monroe County Board of Commissioners,

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- renew our commitment to welcome and protect the rights of all people, regardless of age, race, color,

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- creed, disability,

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- sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, marital status, economic status, and national origin. And

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- we affirm the right of every person to live peacefully and without fear, and we will fight and resist

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- at every step discrimination and harmful policies, whatever their source. We believe in diversity, equity,

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- inclusion, and belonging, and we also stand in support of our county public school systems, both RBB

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- and MCCSC.

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- And with that, we'll move on to our department updates. Good morning, Commissioners. Richard Crider,

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- Monroe County Building and Fleet Department. I want to provide you with an update regarding the generator

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- installation at the Highway Garage and Youth Services Bureau. We recently

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- requested bids for that. We received the bid packages and we had two responders, Crown Electric and

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- Cassidy Electric. Cassidy was the low bidder. We are going to work with the professional services team,

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- Mr. Cockrell and I, and try to get a contract ready to go for next commissioner's meeting. Great. Thank

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- you so much.

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- Ms. Kelly from the health department. Good morning commissioners. Just a few updates. According to the

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- Indiana Department of Health, COVID wastewater concentrations are continuing to trend down. Flu activity

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- across the state is now moderate.

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- We have vaccines currently available through the Morgan County Health Department. For appointments or

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- more information, the public can call 765-342-6621. And lastly, the department is now scheduling appointments

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- for lactation counseling. For more information, the public can call 812-349-2075.

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- All right. Thank you so much. Any comments or questions for my colleagues? I'm glad that the flu has

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- flown. All right. Thank you so much, Ms. Kelly. Recorder Swain. Good morning. I appreciate the opportunity

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- to bring a public service announcement to everyone today. I have a couple of letters here, one I received.

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- and one of our property owners here in Monroe County brought in. It is a letter that wants to charge

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- $285 for a property alert monitoring system that will alert you whenever something is recorded against

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- your property. I just wanted to let everybody know that we offer that service for free.

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- So you can go to the Monroe County Government website, click on the recorders page, and the very first

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- box at the bottom is about a program called Property Watch. That will link you to DocsPop.com. DocsPop

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- is our partner for posting our public records online so that people can download 24-7. They also have

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- partnered with us to offer this free

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- property watch alert system. What you will do is you will put in your name, it will, and county, it

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- will bring up the properties that you own and then you can click which ones you want to put a watch

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- on. You can get an alert by either email or text or both. I do want to caution if you live outside city

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- limits, you will have a legal description that is called meets

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- and bounds meets is METES. If something is recorded against a neighbor's property, you may get an alert

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- because the legal description will be very similar. You can do either by name or legal description.

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- If you've got a name like John Smith, you may prefer just to do the legal description.

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- It is offered in at least 90 of the 92 counties here in Indiana. So even if you live in a different

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- county or have relatives in a different county, if you go to the Property Watch site, there is a link

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- at the bottom to the competitors website that offers a similar service called Property Fraud Alert.

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- If you don't mind while I have the floor, there are a couple other letters that have been sent out that

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- I wanted to, again, let people know of a lower cost or free option. There's another one that I received.

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- So I transferred property after my brother's passing recently in another county. And I got the same

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- letter that our Monroe County property

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- resident did. I also received one that wanted to charge $132.50 for a copy of the deed, the only document

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- showing that you own your property. You can get a copy of your deed for a dollar a page in our office.

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- Most deeds are between one and three pages. So again,

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- And you can just come into our office you can go to docs pop.com and download there. They do charge

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- $2 per page one coming to the county and one paying for their service. And then the third one.

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- is really important to get the word out. So our veterans are being targeted. There is a letter that

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- has gone out from a company that wants to charge them more than $100 to expedite the processing of their

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- DD-214 or their military discharge. You can get a copy of that for free from our office. We will also

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- record DD-214s for free.

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- We don't have it in our local database because the veteran didn't record their DD-214s. We can work

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- with a veteran service office to contact the national database.

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- It does take about two months. There's really no expediting that process. So again, we will provide

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- that service for free. And I just wanted to let veterans and their families who may need that

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- for scholarships or things like that to know. Thank you so much. That's really useful public education.

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- My colleagues have any questions or? No, actually, I think you explained it very well. Thank you.

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- It's horrifying that anyone would target in so unscrupulous a manner. So thank you so much for bringing

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- that to our attention as well as to how to avoid that. And I wanna let all of the property owners know.

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- So we're also putting an insert into the property tax billing this spring that'll go out next month.

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- So people can look for that and share it with others and like I said, other counties as well.

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- Thank you. Great, thank you.

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- All right. Any other department updates? All right. Seeing none, we will move on to public comments.

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- This item is not on our agenda. We ask each speaker to limit their time to three minutes per person.

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- and to provide their name and county of residence when they begin speaking. You can raise your hand

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- on teams or you can come to the podium. I have somebody on team Susan Hingle. You will need to unmute.

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- There you go. Oh, I'm on YouTube. Good morning, commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity. Can you

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- hear me okay?

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- Can you hear me? Yes, we can. TSD, can you put the clock up, please? All right. Good morning. Thank

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- you for the opportunity to speak. I want to address an incident that occurred last week involving the

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- Monroe County Women's Commission, not to assign blame, but because it raises an important issue about

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- process and support for our boards and commissions. Our March meeting was properly noticed in full compliance

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- with Indiana's open door law when Commissioner

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- commissioners arrived, the building was locked. After some time, we were eventually let in, only to

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- be told we could not remain in the room because our meeting was not listed on an internal county calendar.

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- It was also spring break, which I think contributed to the confusion. This was inconvenient and frustrating,

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- but more importantly, it put us in a position where a public body that had followed the law was effectively

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- prevented from using public space

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- to conduct public business. We did what we were required and allowed to do. We had quorum and agenda

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- and a lawfully noticed meeting, so we met anyway outside on the Sophia Travis Bench on county property.

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- I want to be clear, I don't believe this was intentional, but I do think it is symptomatic of a deeper issue

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- namely the fragility of the systems that support boards and commissions, especially volunteer bodies.

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- Boards and commissions rely on basic infrastructure, access to meeting space, clear scheduling processes,

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- and consistent staff coordination. When those systems fail, even unintentionally, it sends a message

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- that this work is optional or incidental rather than an essential part of county governments.

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- This matters at all the more in a moment where there are conversations about reducing and restructuring

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- support for boards and commissions more broadly. If meeting rooms and administrative coordination are

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- uncertain, then public service becomes unnecessarily difficult and public participation suffers. My

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- ask today is simple and constructive. First, that the county review and clarify the internal processes

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- around room access and calendaring to ensure that a public

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- properly noticed public meeting cannot be displaced by clerical or communications gap. Second, as the

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- commission reaffirmed its commitment to boards and commissions by ensuring that the basic logistical

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- support required to function is treated as a core responsibility, not an expendable one. The Women's

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- Commission and a lot of county boards and commissions are made up of volunteers who show up

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- because they care about this community and want to contribute meaningfully. The county created these

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- bodies for a reason. Our system should make it possible for them to do their work, not harder. Thank

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- you for your time and your attention to this issue. Thank you. Is there anyone else that wishes to make

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- public comment?

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- Good morning, commissioners. My name is Tia Arthur. I'm the executive director of Monroe-Kanekasa. I

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- just wanted to share with you, coming up in the month of April, it's Child Abuse Awareness Month. And

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- it's something that we have taken on since I've become the director, because it's very important to

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- our community. We have children in our community who are abused on a daily basis. I just got enrollment numbers.

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- from MCCSE. And if you think about the enrollment of Tri-North Middle School, every single one of those

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- children has been abused. So about that number, in 2025, all of those children had been abused or neglected.

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- And I think that's really powerful when you think about the number of children in our community. This

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- is a public health issue and we need to create awareness

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- so we can make it clear that we need to prevent it. And so prevention is very important to us at CASA.

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- We offer prevention programming to parents. We're rolling out a training in April called Stop It Now

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- to help people understand and learn about the signs to protect children from sexual abuse. Those are

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- things that are very important to us. And I just wanted to invite

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- everyone here to please join us. We're doing a kickoff rally next Wednesday at noon here on the south

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- side of the courthouse lawn. I wanted to extend my gratitude to Monroe County. They are supportive of

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- the welfare of children. They're concerned about the welfare of children as we are at CASA. And I want

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- to thank Commissioner

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- Thank you so much. We also have a comment from Maria

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- Good morning. Thank you so much for this time. My name is Maria Douglas and I have been a Monroe County

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- resident for over 33 years and I serve on the Monroe County Women's Commission through the County Council's

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- appointment.

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- So first I wanted to begin by thanking Commissioner Madeira for taking my call on Thursday, March 19th,

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- and for attempting to problem solve in real time, as Susan already spoke about the situation, and for

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- clearly naming how unacceptable it is for the Women's Commission to be marginalized in the very county

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- government that created it. And that acknowledgement mattered, so thank you so much. And she also showed

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- up at the county council meeting to speak about this as well.

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- So, clearly, I won't repeat the details of the locked door incident. We have already spoken before county

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- council on Tuesday, and the incident was picked up by the B Square Bulletin. Thank you so much. Instead,

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- I want to place that moment in a longer history, because it did not happen in isolation. The Monroe

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- County Women's Commission was created as part of a broader movement across Indiana in the late 20th

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- century to ensure that women had a formal voice in local government.

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- These commissions were designed to advise officials surface in equities and help integrate gender equity

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- into policy. Monroe County was proud to be, I think, one of only three that created this. And this was

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- supposed to be a place where women could gain experience, build networks, and move into elected

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- office. Let's be clear. I do not want to do that. I just want to serve in the capacity that I am. So,

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- in Monroe County, the pipeline has included respected public leaders, such as Senator Shelley Yoder

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- and County Councilperson Liz Feidl. This history is important because it shows what the commission has

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- been capable of when it is taken seriously. Monroe County has had something rare.

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- and all women board of commissioners. That should have been an extraordinary opportunity to strengthen

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- the status of women and girls and marginalized genders in our community and to model what gender responsive

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- governance can look like in practice. Representation alone does not demand a dismantle in equity, but

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- it does create the possibility to do so.

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- So, instead, too often, we have seen women in positions of authority uphold the same patriarchal systems

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- that once excluded them. Systems do not change simply because the people at the table change. They change

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- when those in power intentionally choose to redistribute access, visibility, and resources to those

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- who have been historically pushed to the margins.

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- And so our County is not judged on how well it serves those with power and stability. It is judged by

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- how well it cares for the people with the least access and least protection. So we have a chance to

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- do that in Monroe County to demonstrate what that looks like when women are in leadership and lift them

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- up as they climb and use their positions to dismantle rather than replicate the systems that once held

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- them back. Thank you so much. Thank you. Any other public comment for us?

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- Good morning. My name is Sandy Keller. I am with my sister's closet of Monroe County. We are in the

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- property directly south of the Monroe County Convention Center. I sent you a letter last week regarding

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- our situation with our lease. First, my sister's closet has been in our lease since

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- November of 2014. And we are an organization that serves women who are in vulnerable positions. They

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- are low income. They are trying to move out of poverty under their own power by finding employment.

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- Women who we serve are moving towards self-sufficiency. Over the last 28 years that our organization

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- has been around, we have served over 4,000 women with free advocacy,

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- and mentoring services, 85% of the women that we serve move into better paying jobs or new jobs within

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- six weeks of their first appointment with My Sister's Closet.

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- I'm here today because we are in the group of leases that are supposed to expire July 7th of this year.

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- We have been very fortunate that we have been able to find a property, and we met with Jeff Cockrell

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- last year to let him know about our successful status in finding this property, and that we were not

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- going to be able to pay for both our lease and our mortgage at the same time.

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- at that point that we.

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- asked that the county would forgive our lease until we were able to move, and you have been able to

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- do that for us, and we're extremely grateful for that rent forgiveness. At the same time in our meeting

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- with Jeff, we talk about the possibility that we may not have enough funds to be able to renovate our

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- new building by the time our lease ended. Our plans with the architect are still

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- at the Taper Bruce architect office. They do need to be moved along for approval for the county and

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- city, and then they would go up to the state. We have been told because of funds that have been taken

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- away from those departments at the state level that this will take an additional eight weeks from the

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- time that they

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- get these plans. It is unlikely we'll be able to start to put a shovel in the ground before June gets

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- here. That will displace our free community services to these vulnerable women. We are respectfully

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- asking the county to consider our situation with either a month to month or an extension on our lease,

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- similar to what you've given Jeff Cock

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- Jeff, who is just south of us with the warehouse to June of 2027. This would keep our services for vulnerable

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- women in the county in place without interruption. It would keep us from having to lay off 11 people

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- to whom are clients that are receiving job skills training services at the moment. And it would avoid

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- the need for us to pay for our stock to be stored. We are hoping that the county can

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- commissioners can help us find an alternative solution while we take the steps to move our organization

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- to its new location. And I would be very, very grateful if we can have a discussion about this now,

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- if you have any questions. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. And this item is actually on our

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- agenda in a way. So we can that for now. Thank you. Thank you.

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- other public comment. Let's move on to our next item, please. Yes, I would like to move approval of

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- the minutes for March 19th, 2026. Any comments or edits, corrections on this morning? Okay. All those

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- in favor of approving the minutes for March 19th, 2026 signify by saying aye.

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- I motion carries three zero. Next item, please. I'd like to move approval of the claims docket for accounts

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- payable for March 26, 2026. Second. We have a motion and we have a second. Ms. Gallardo. Good morning.

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- The accounts payable claims docket for March 26, 2026 totals $1,892,820 and 91 cents. This includes

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- all emergency claims and adjustments.

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- Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner Madero? I have none, thank you. Commissioner

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- Jones? No, I don't. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You can raise your hand on

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- Teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the claims docket accounts

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- payable March 26, 2026, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries three zero. I will note for the record,

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- that we have received a report from weights and measures. It is for February of 2026. And we'll now

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- move on to new business, please. I would like to move approval for the 2026 polling site locations for

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- the primary and general election. Second. We have a motion and we have a second and we have Ms. Ferris

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- joining us to tell us about it. Good morning.

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- Good morning, commissioners. Kylie Ferris, Monroe County Election Supervisor. I have presented

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- the commissioner board with the list of 28 polling locations for the 2026 election cycle. When we first

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- were looking at locations, we were between a number of 29 and 22. One of our locations, Southside Christian

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- Church, had to back out due to damage that they had during the tornado while they were already in a modeling

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- So that has extended theirs, so it has dropped down to 28 from the 29. Thank you so much. Have you share

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- information about early voting?

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- when it starts, and election day, and I'm sure you have this memorized. Yes. Early voting will begin

00:24:51.511 --> 00:24:58.124
- on April 7th, so the last day to register to vote is April 6th. You can call our office or stop by the

00:24:58.124 --> 00:25:04.993
- office. Currently, we are at 501 North Morton in Suite 203, which is upstairs to the left down the hallway

00:25:04.993 --> 00:25:11.478
- at the very end. And then election day will be on May 5th this year, so the last day of early voting

00:25:11.478 --> 00:25:14.046
- will be May 4th. That will end at noon.

00:25:16.386 --> 00:25:22.774
- And there are a couple of Saturdays in there. Yes, the last two Saturdays, May 2nd, and I believe April

00:25:22.774 --> 00:25:29.162
- 25th. All of those are posted on the county website on the voter registration page, and then all sample

00:25:29.162 --> 00:25:35.304
- ballots are posted there as well. Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner Jones? No,

00:25:35.304 --> 00:25:37.822
- I don't. Thank you. Commissioner Madera?

00:25:38.082 --> 00:25:45.372
- Uh, just that I'm so glad we have almost that full month instead of the bill that would have limited

00:25:45.372 --> 00:25:52.950
- us to what 16 days or something like that. That was horrific. So yes. Yay. Democracy. We've got to fight

00:25:52.950 --> 00:26:00.312
- the federal legislation on ballots, which is crazy. Even though our, our president just mailed in his

00:26:00.312 --> 00:26:02.910
- ballot in Florida. So there you go.

00:26:03.170 --> 00:26:17.469
- you. All right. Let's see if there's any public comments on this item. You can reach your hand in teams

00:26:17.469 --> 00:26:27.230
- or come to the podium. Seeing none all those in favor of approving the

00:26:27.426 --> 00:26:32.605
- Motion carries 3-0. Thank you, ma'am. Thanks for being here. Thank you. These will be posted on the

00:26:32.605 --> 00:26:37.783
- Monroe County website. There is a tab that you can click that says, where do I vote? It'll take you

00:26:37.783 --> 00:26:43.014
- to a GIS map. Type in your address, and it'll tell you which location to go to. Excellent. I love it

00:26:43.014 --> 00:26:46.846
- when technology works. All right. Let's move on to the next item, please.

00:26:47.586 --> 00:26:56.405
- I guess I'd like to move approval for Nature's Way Landscape Services for multiple county properties.

00:26:56.405 --> 00:27:05.051
- Fund name, county general, fund number 1000 in the amount of $41,244.05. Second. All right, we have

00:27:05.051 --> 00:27:10.238
- a motion and we have a second. Good morning, commissioners.

00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:18.204
- This request is to approve renewal of landscape services with Nature's Way Inc. in the amount of $41,244.05.

00:27:18.204 --> 00:27:24.518
- Services include spring cleanup, mulching, monthly bed maintenance, fall cleanup at the following county

00:27:24.518 --> 00:27:30.651
- facilities, community corrections, Fiscus Building, Gordon Pike Roundabout, Health Services Building,

00:27:30.651 --> 00:27:36.725
- and the Historic Courthouse. This agreement also includes installation of summer annual plantings at

00:27:36.725 --> 00:27:41.054
- the Fiscus Building, Health Services Building, and Historic Courthouse.

00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:49.558
- and irrigation services at the Gordon Pike Roundabout. Great. Thank you so much. Comments or questions?

00:27:49.558 --> 00:27:57.547
- Commissioner Medira? No. Sounds wonderful. Thank you. Commissioner Jones? Yeah. I very much enjoyed

00:27:57.547 --> 00:28:06.494
- the native plant areas that they did last year, and I hope that they'll stick with that and maybe even do more.

00:28:06.594 --> 00:28:15.880
- And my personal opinion is that Lantana, Salvia, and Begonia's are pretty boring. I wish they would

00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:25.166
- consider some more interesting options. Okay. I think we can look at that. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah.

00:28:25.166 --> 00:28:34.451
- And I cannot tell you how many people have stopped to say how beautiful the courthouse looks really

00:28:34.451 --> 00:28:36.030
- all summer long.

00:28:36.610 --> 00:28:43.122
- couldn't get over the daffodils here recently. Yeah. Yeah. It's beautiful. So thank you for organizing

00:28:43.122 --> 00:28:49.570
- this. And I'm sure that commissioner Jones would be willing to offer some suggestions and see what we

00:28:49.570 --> 00:28:56.082
- can substitute in. It'd be really good. Good to me. All right. Let's see if there's any public comment

00:28:56.082 --> 00:29:00.254
- on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

00:29:07.458 --> 00:29:14.878
- Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Nature's Way landscape contract for multiple county

00:29:14.878 --> 00:29:22.224
- properties. Signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. Next item, please. Yes, I would like to

00:29:22.224 --> 00:29:30.085
- move approval for Wells Lawn Care and Landscaping LLC for Youth Services Bureau. Fund name County General,

00:29:30.085 --> 00:29:36.990
- fund number 1,000 in the amount of $19,320.46. Second. We have a motion and we have a second.

00:29:38.658 --> 00:29:46.949
- This request is to approve renewal of landscape services with Wells Lawn Care and landscaping LLC at

00:29:46.949 --> 00:29:55.979
- the Youth Services Bureau in the amount of $6,120.50 to provide mowing and trimming services, bed maintenance

00:29:55.979 --> 00:30:04.435
- in the amount of $8,032.54 to include spring cleanup, weed removal, shrub trimmings, and fall cleanup.

00:30:04.435 --> 00:30:07.390
- Mulching in the amount of $4,265.42

00:30:07.650 --> 00:30:17.351
- plus one mowing of the field behind the Youth Services Bureau in the amount of $910 for a combined total

00:30:17.351 --> 00:30:27.236
- of $19,328.46. Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner Madeira? No, thank you. Commissioner

00:30:27.236 --> 00:30:37.214
- Jones? Yes, I want to commend the one mowing of the field behind Youth Services. This is a way to encourage

00:30:37.442 --> 00:30:47.266
- plants that pollinators tend to really enjoy. If you keep things mowed completely all the time, then

00:30:47.266 --> 00:30:57.284
- those plants never have a chance to grow. If you never mow, then it turns into trees real fast. So the

00:30:57.284 --> 00:31:06.718
- once a year mowing is really a nice way to handle it. Great. All right, let's see if there's any

00:31:06.978 --> 00:31:15.561
- Public comment on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those

00:31:15.561 --> 00:31:23.896
- in favor of approving the Wells Lawn Care Landscaping LLC Contract for Youth Services Bureau signify

00:31:23.896 --> 00:31:32.149
- by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries three zero. Next item, please. I would like to move approval for

00:31:32.149 --> 00:31:36.606
- core restoration agreement for the convention center.

00:31:36.738 --> 00:31:45.422
- fund name ARPA, fund number 8950 in the amount of $1,646.52. Second. We have a motion. We have a second,

00:31:45.422 --> 00:31:53.693
- Mr. Kreider. This request is to accept the proposal submitted by Corps Restoration in the amount of

00:31:53.693 --> 00:32:02.543
- $1,646.52 to replace the existing flooring and mop sink in the utility area due to wear and deterioration.

00:32:02.543 --> 00:32:06.430
- And I will note, this is it. This is the final

00:32:06.594 --> 00:32:13.888
- project at the convention center. I had a sinking feeling about that. I guess all the funds are drained.

00:32:13.888 --> 00:32:21.183
- Yeah. All right. I can't believe it's the last one. Yeah. Good on you. All right. Comments or questions,

00:32:21.183 --> 00:32:28.199
- Commissioner Madera? Nothing to pipe up with. Commissioner Jones? No, I don't. Thank you. All right.

00:32:28.199 --> 00:32:34.174
- Any public comments on this item? You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

00:32:40.322 --> 00:32:46.893
- Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the core restoration agreement for convention center signify

00:32:46.893 --> 00:32:53.091
- by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries three zero. Thank you. Thank you. Next item please. I would like

00:32:53.091 --> 00:32:59.352
- to move approval for F&E payment pros agreement for scanning software. Fund name county general fund

00:32:59.352 --> 00:33:05.551
- number 1000 in the amount of $12,596 for three year agreement. Second. We have a motion and we have

00:33:05.551 --> 00:33:09.022
- a second. Ms. Purdy is going to handle this one for us.

00:33:09.154 --> 00:33:18.772
- Yes, thank you. This is requesting the approval of a contract with F and E payment pros by the treasurer.

00:33:18.772 --> 00:33:27.846
- And this software system they already had in place, but this is providing a three-year agreement of

00:33:27.846 --> 00:33:37.282
- contract. The treasurer was able to negotiate significant savings for the county. The original proposal

00:33:37.282 --> 00:33:39.006
- was a 32% increase

00:33:39.714 --> 00:33:51.273
- And this is more likely 2.5% increase. So this agreement will provide as a total of $12,596 over the

00:33:51.273 --> 00:34:03.518
- three years. Each year is broken down as April 1st of 2026 through March 31st of 2027 is at $4,095 a year.

00:34:03.778 --> 00:34:12.362
- The same time for 2028, it becomes $4,198 per year. And then April 1st through March 31st of 2029, it

00:34:12.362 --> 00:34:21.031
- becomes $4,303 per year. So she's just requesting your approval of this contract. And we'll go forward

00:34:21.031 --> 00:34:28.353
- from there. Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner Jones? No, I don't.

00:34:28.353 --> 00:34:33.150
- Thank you. Commissioner Madeira? No, I don't. Thank you.

00:34:33.282 --> 00:34:42.484
- I don't have any questions either. It makes sense. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item.

00:34:42.484 --> 00:34:51.247
- You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. I see none. All those in favor of approving the

00:34:51.247 --> 00:35:00.099
- F and E payment pros agreement for scanning software signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries

00:35:00.099 --> 00:35:03.166
- three zero. And we'll now move on.

00:35:03.394 --> 00:35:10.486
- to our next item, please. Yes, I would like to move approval for the Title IV-E grant renewal. Fund

00:35:10.486 --> 00:35:17.650
- name Title IV-E, fund number 8117 in currently unknown grant amount. Second. We have a motion and we

00:35:17.650 --> 00:35:23.678
- have a second and we have Ms. Turner-King joining us to tell us about it. Thank you.

00:35:24.290 --> 00:35:30.695
- Good morning, commissioners. So what is before you is renewal of the Title IV Recovery Grant for the

00:35:30.695 --> 00:35:37.228
- Public Defender's Office. What this grant provides is the opportunity for the Public Defender's Office

00:35:37.228 --> 00:35:43.633
- to receive reimbursements for the cost of representing parents in CHINs or TPR cases, so children in

00:35:43.633 --> 00:35:49.214
- need of services or termination of parental rights cases. The amount is unknown because

00:35:49.954 --> 00:35:57.932
- the reimbursement is dependent on the number of those kinds of cases that the office is representing.

00:35:57.932 --> 00:36:05.831
- The grant started in 2022, so this is renewal, and the cash balance in the Title IV funds reflecting

00:36:05.831 --> 00:36:14.043
- recovery or reimbursements to date is $82,508.01. Thank you so much. Comments or questions? Commissioner

00:36:14.043 --> 00:36:19.518
- Madeira? No, I have none. Thank you. Commissioner Jones? No, I don't.

00:36:21.378 --> 00:36:30.341
- Thank you for bringing this forward. It's always good news to get a grant renewed. See if there's any

00:36:30.341 --> 00:36:39.567
- public comments on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those

00:36:39.567 --> 00:36:48.178
- in favor of approving the title for grant renewal signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0.

00:36:48.178 --> 00:36:50.814
- Thank you. Thank you so much.

00:36:50.914 --> 00:36:59.397
- Next item, please. I'd like to move approval for resolution 2026-09 regarding the justice project location.

00:36:59.397 --> 00:37:07.253
- Second. We have a motion. We have a second. Yes, and I haven't checked, but I think this is on with

00:37:07.253 --> 00:37:15.500
- our meeting packet information. There is a draft version of this so that the public and those can follow

00:37:15.500 --> 00:37:18.878
- it as we move forward with this. This is a

00:37:20.130 --> 00:37:27.359
- resolution by the commissioners that would kind of set some parameters with the justice location site.

00:37:27.359 --> 00:37:34.378
- As you know, we've been working on this determined site, and we've been on and off for about six or

00:37:34.378 --> 00:37:41.608
- seven years now, and it's all based upon a lawsuit that started in 2009, or a settlement that occurred

00:37:41.608 --> 00:37:46.942
- in 2009, dealing with the jail overcrowding issues that we're experiencing.

00:37:48.130 --> 00:37:54.955
- We've talked a lot about the history, so I'm really not going to go through a whole lot of the reasons

00:37:54.955 --> 00:38:01.581
- we're looking for a new facility. But we hit a snag last October, and so we need to get out of that

00:38:01.581 --> 00:38:08.273
- snag, and the Indiana Civil Liberties Union has given us until April. Our agreement expires on April

00:38:08.273 --> 00:38:14.966
- 15th. Our agreed order expires on April 15th unless something occurs. The attorney can fault for the

00:38:14.966 --> 00:38:17.086
- Indiana Civil Liberties Union's

00:38:17.538 --> 00:38:24.209
- I'll listen to you if you guys make some substantial progress. We can continue that agreement and that

00:38:24.209 --> 00:38:30.944
- agreement is important for us because it involves a class of individuals. And once that gets dismissed,

00:38:30.944 --> 00:38:37.680
- that class goes away and it opens us up to litigation on the current conditions of the jails. And we've

00:38:37.680 --> 00:38:44.221
- had studies done on the current condition of the jail. So I'm really not gonna go terribly deep into

00:38:44.221 --> 00:38:47.006
- that kind of thing. But I think what this,

00:38:47.586 --> 00:38:54.962
- ultimately says in the now therefore is three things that the commissioners are indicating. One is that

00:38:54.962 --> 00:39:02.551
- you guys will continue to consider the North Park site for the justice project. That you will unilaterally

00:39:02.551 --> 00:39:09.927
- reject any property that will not allow for future co-location expansion and will cause an unreasonable

00:39:09.927 --> 00:39:13.118
- delay in the project. And three, that you're

00:39:13.378 --> 00:39:19.110
- you're requesting the county council to commit to utilizing cash on hand to begin the project prior

00:39:19.110 --> 00:39:24.842
- to issuance of a bond, right? With those three, the whereas clause also includes language where the

00:39:24.842 --> 00:39:31.089
- bonding, where we're at with the bonding is a little hazy right now, but we're hoping to have that clarified

00:39:31.089 --> 00:39:36.878
- within the next few days. I have a meeting with bond council tomorrow to kind of figure out if there

00:39:36.878 --> 00:39:42.782
- is a way to get the bond, what is the timeline for bonding? So can we actually get that done this year

00:39:43.138 --> 00:39:48.745
- if that's possible to get it done this year, not that that necessarily will happen, but what

00:39:48.745 --> 00:39:55.076
- the possibilities are. I think there's also an acknowledgement that, you know, even with that timeframe,

00:39:55.076 --> 00:40:01.165
- a co-located facility right at the onset is probably not feasible financially, right? And so I think

00:40:01.165 --> 00:40:07.134
- this acknowledges that, but says, hey, we still want to have that option to do that in the future.

00:40:10.306 --> 00:40:18.775
- of the resolution if you have any questions. Thank you so much. I will note for the public that if you

00:40:18.775 --> 00:40:27.490
- go to our county website into our calendar and it says agendas and packets for today's meeting underneath

00:40:27.490 --> 00:40:35.794
- the regular session packet, the work session packet, which is blank, there is the exhibit for item H

00:40:35.794 --> 00:40:38.590
- and then also this item, which is

00:40:38.690 --> 00:40:49.259
- item G. Resolution 2026-09. So I just want to make that clear for the public that it's not in the packet,

00:40:49.259 --> 00:40:59.330
- but it is where it can be found on our website. So hopefully that will help folks. So let's go ahead

00:40:59.330 --> 00:41:06.110
- and take comments, questions. Commissioner Madeira? So I think that

00:41:07.874 --> 00:41:16.314
- I'll allow much of what stands in the resolution to speak for itself. I think that there is going to

00:41:16.314 --> 00:41:24.838
- be two areas that attract public attention, and that's why North Park is still a viable property when

00:41:24.838 --> 00:41:33.612
- the council has so vociferously said no. And that's because we haven't heard from members of the council

00:41:33.612 --> 00:41:37.790
- what characteristics make it undesirable and why.

00:41:41.506 --> 00:41:48.230
- why we need to take it off the table. So when we're looking at other properties, in other words, what

00:41:48.230 --> 00:41:54.888
- characteristics will rule these properties out, for lack of a better term. That makes it really hard

00:41:54.888 --> 00:42:01.480
- to adequately identify other properties and choose one that's going to be acceptable both to us and

00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:07.742
- the council. And this is especially the case because we've literally spent millions of dollars

00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:17.698
- that we're not going to be able to do on this property. And of course, much of this was done before

00:42:17.698 --> 00:42:27.457
- I came into office and. In this era of fiscal belt tightening the expenditure of taxpayer funds isn't

00:42:27.457 --> 00:42:37.886
- something that I take lightly. And while we. Obviously are not committed to the design that was. Originally.

00:42:38.242 --> 00:42:47.916
- that property has several characteristics that remain very active for the jail. It allows for circulation.

00:42:47.916 --> 00:42:57.047
- It allows for co-location. And it is ready to go. And when we're staring down a lawsuit, being ready

00:42:57.047 --> 00:43:06.631
- to go and having the expenditure of public funds already passed us makes that property look like a pretty

00:43:06.631 --> 00:43:07.806
- good option.

00:43:07.970 --> 00:43:16.046
- I don't say that out of disrespect for council and disrespect for the public and the reasons they oppose

00:43:16.046 --> 00:43:23.045
- that property. I just wanted to make those remarks because the sheriff and other employees

00:43:23.045 --> 00:43:31.582
- of our correctional facilities have asked why not North Park and we have not heard an answer to that question.

00:43:32.354 --> 00:43:38.584
- I also wanted to say that it does remain very important that we continue to collaborate with the city

00:43:38.584 --> 00:43:44.813
- of Bloomington and collaborate with the council because this is a group project, for lack of a better

00:43:44.813 --> 00:43:50.982
- term. The justice center isn't just a building, it's a public institution and it's a public decision

00:43:50.982 --> 00:43:57.456
- that we all must make together. And we cannot do this without transparency and without public confidence.

00:43:57.456 --> 00:44:00.510
- And so I'll just end my remarks there, thank you.

00:44:01.570 --> 00:44:11.350
- Thank you, Commissioner Madure. Commissioner Jones? Yes, I think it's important that we keep in mind

00:44:11.350 --> 00:44:21.420
- that there are people actually living in that jail in the conditions that have been identified as being

00:44:21.420 --> 00:44:30.910
- unconstitutional. The longer we leave them sitting there, and our staff also who are in the jail,

00:44:31.426 --> 00:44:43.515
- It really seems rather cruel to unnecessarily delay this project any longer. It's been in the works

00:44:43.515 --> 00:44:55.966
- for years, as Mr. Cockrell pointed out, and yet seems to have gotten almost nowhere. It's time to take

00:44:55.966 --> 00:45:00.318
- it seriously and to really remember

00:45:00.450 --> 00:45:10.508
- the people who are actually incarcerated there and what the conditions are that they're living in.

00:45:10.508 --> 00:45:21.886
- Thank you. Thank you so much. And I just want to add a quick comment about the situation. And this is something

00:45:22.082 --> 00:45:33.644
- a barrier or an obstacle at least that the legislature has thrown into our path. It is not something

00:45:33.644 --> 00:45:45.321
- of our own making and we are working diligently to overcome that obstacle and having a property would

00:45:45.321 --> 00:45:50.014
- be a good start to that process as well.

00:45:50.114 --> 00:46:04.290
- But it's taken a lot of time to rehash what has already been done, the work that has already been done.

00:46:04.290 --> 00:46:16.830
- And I don't want us to spend more time on revisiting and revisiting and revisiting the same

00:46:18.146 --> 00:46:32.589
- I think we're missing out on good. In a search for perfect and perfect is never going to happen with

00:46:32.589 --> 00:46:46.174
- a project like this ever. But the. Issues that. Had been raised about North Parker all easily.

00:46:46.466 --> 00:46:56.231
- addressed through other means. But to me, it's the clock that's ticking. And as part of this motion,

00:46:56.231 --> 00:47:05.996
- we should send this resolution to council and also to Mr. Falk. Does everybody agree with that? Yes?

00:47:05.996 --> 00:47:13.054
- Can I follow up on those remarks? Sure. I think you touched on something

00:47:13.186 --> 00:47:19.601
- really important. I mentioned transparency before, but taxpayers expect that these major public projects,

00:47:19.601 --> 00:47:25.713
- especially ones as expensive and significant as this jail, they expect that they're gonna be planned

00:47:25.713 --> 00:47:31.825
- with diligence and care. And I get it that North Park is a political hot potato. It's something that

00:47:31.825 --> 00:47:38.421
- people, I use this comment about being haunted, right? There's something that's deeply politically unpopular

00:47:38.421 --> 00:47:39.934
- and has been for a long,

00:47:40.034 --> 00:47:46.642
- for months about this property. And as deeply unpopular as this property is, every other thing that

00:47:46.642 --> 00:47:53.448
- we've considered, every other site we've considered, there's a lot of unknowns about it. There's a lot

00:47:53.448 --> 00:48:00.121
- of delays. And time is money. Time is suffering. And we have an obligation. We may go down the road.

00:48:00.121 --> 00:48:07.191
- We may find that there's something with these sites that makes them unusable. We may find out that there's

00:48:07.191 --> 00:48:09.438
- features that cost us more money.

00:48:09.538 --> 00:48:19.044
- And for all that North Park seems untouchable, unpalatable, we know everything about that property.

00:48:19.044 --> 00:48:26.078
- And we know that we can put a jail at that site in a transparent fashion.

00:48:26.594 --> 00:48:33.655
- We know that we can use public dollars efficiently. We know we can minimize waste. We know we can maximize

00:48:33.655 --> 00:48:40.319
- long-term value. We know that we can safely put it there in all ways and under all circumstances. We

00:48:40.319 --> 00:48:46.918
- know that we can safely use taxpayer dollars. We know that we can ground our decisions in evidence,

00:48:46.918 --> 00:48:47.710
- and we know

00:48:47.938 --> 00:48:54.641
- that we are not making a hasty decision. We know that we are not making one out of urgency or incomplete

00:48:54.641 --> 00:49:01.089
- information. And that's the only site where my little empirical brain feels comfortable at this time

00:49:01.089 --> 00:49:07.536
- moving forward. And we have to move forward hastily and with urgency. And under these circumstances,

00:49:07.536 --> 00:49:14.750
- that's why I arrive at that site time after time. Did you want to add anything else? No, I don't. Thank you. OK.

00:49:14.946 --> 00:49:28.276
- Let's go ahead and open this up for public comment. You can reach your hand on teams or come to the

00:49:28.276 --> 00:49:32.542
- podium. All right, seeing none.

00:49:32.866 --> 00:49:41.748
- All those in favor of approving resolution 2026-09 with a copy going to council and Mr. Falk at the

00:49:41.748 --> 00:49:51.340
- ICLU signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries three zero. Next item please. I would like to move approval

00:49:51.340 --> 00:50:00.222
- for resolution 2026-10 regarding the transfer of property to the capital improvement board. Second.

00:50:00.546 --> 00:50:07.887
- We have a motion and we have a second, Mr. Cockrell. Yes, and much like the last item, this one is also

00:50:07.887 --> 00:50:15.017
- can be found on the web page at the same place. Last week was spring break, I apologize. But this is

00:50:15.017 --> 00:50:22.076
- a resolution that acknowledges that on February 5th, the Capital Improvement Board asked the county

00:50:22.076 --> 00:50:25.182
- for the remaining properties on that block.

00:50:25.410 --> 00:50:33.103
- where the convention center currently is. So to the south of the current convention center and to the

00:50:33.103 --> 00:50:40.645
- west of the Beeline Trail. And this is done in regards to the fact that they've attempted to have a

00:50:40.645 --> 00:50:48.186
- hotel project go north of the current convention center and that has fallen apart. And so they need

00:50:48.186 --> 00:50:54.974
- to find a site where that critical convention hotel can go and whether the property there

00:50:55.714 --> 00:51:01.782
- requested for now is that site where it ultimately goes, or if it's worked in some kind of arrangement

00:51:01.782 --> 00:51:07.732
- for some other site that is equally as appropriate is kind of the CIB's duties and jobs, but they've

00:51:07.732 --> 00:51:13.800
- made this request. And so this acknowledges is that, and I know that the commissioners, much like this

00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:19.809
- morning, I've heard a lot of information about the current tenants wanting to use that. And honestly,

00:51:19.809 --> 00:51:22.814
- if you would ask me a year ago, I would have said,

00:51:23.010 --> 00:51:29.606
- hotel is going to go north of the site. And so we don't have a lot of these timing issues or these issues

00:51:29.606 --> 00:51:35.829
- with these properties, but that's not where we are today. However, I also don't know how the timing

00:51:35.829 --> 00:51:42.612
- that the CIB has in order to get these properties transformed into the ultimate hotel and whatever mechanism

00:51:42.612 --> 00:51:48.959
- that is. So what we've included in this resolution is kind of two things, kind of two instructions to

00:51:48.959 --> 00:51:52.382
- the CIB, which one is that, you know, we've heard from

00:51:53.058 --> 00:52:00.323
- people who are currently utilizing the property as tenants and that to the extent that they can, as

00:52:00.323 --> 00:52:07.806
- an interim use, allow that to continue that the commissioners are okay with that or would be satisfied

00:52:07.806 --> 00:52:15.216
- with that, provided that the ultimate long-term goal for that property is still to support tourism in

00:52:15.216 --> 00:52:21.246
- the convention center. And two, that some of the buildings are historic in nature,

00:52:21.506 --> 00:52:29.440
- nature and through their decision making process they should acknowledge that and respect those things

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:37.296
- to the extent possible. And so those are two things. Then in the kind of the now therefore portion of

00:52:37.296 --> 00:52:44.999
- this it is there are two exhibits and the exhibits on the website have a couple of technical issues

00:52:44.999 --> 00:52:50.622
- that I've since corrected names and such. I think Richard Martin was the

00:52:51.202 --> 00:52:58.980
- bill in the notary clause, which clearly is not appropriate. So basically this is saying that you approve

00:52:58.980 --> 00:53:06.539
- the president executing those two deeds in essentially the form they are now, or if there's some minor

00:53:06.539 --> 00:53:14.243
- changes, the legal descriptions are going to have to be updated with actual meets and bounds. That takes

00:53:14.243 --> 00:53:18.206
- a little bit of time, and we wanted to make sure that

00:53:18.850 --> 00:53:25.398
- We had this done in time for the council to review it in a timely fashion. And it allows the board of,

00:53:25.398 --> 00:53:32.073
- the president of the board of commissioners to execute them in different orders. One is for the property

00:53:32.073 --> 00:53:38.684
- west and there are some parking issues that we need to work out with the CIB before that. That may take

00:53:38.684 --> 00:53:45.168
- a little bit while to learn, longer to work out plus that isn't the area where they believe that they

00:53:45.168 --> 00:53:47.838
- have interest in utilizing for the hotel.

00:53:48.450 --> 00:53:56.027
- So, and it also indicates that the copy of this resolution will go to the Capital Improvement Board

00:53:56.027 --> 00:54:04.134
- so they can understand both the current tenant and your wishes on that as well as the historic properties.

00:54:04.134 --> 00:54:11.939
- And then also this will be forwarded to the County Council with an agenda request to approve the terms

00:54:11.939 --> 00:54:17.470
- and conditions of these transfers. So that is what is in the resolution.

00:54:18.242 --> 00:54:27.362
- All right. Thank you so much. Um, comments or questions, commissioner Jones. No, I don't. Thank you.

00:54:27.362 --> 00:54:36.391
- I just had one question. So if people want to ask questions about their leases, then they then take

00:54:36.391 --> 00:54:41.086
- it up with the CID. Is that correct? Well, I guess.

00:54:42.690 --> 00:54:49.804
- Eventually, yes, right? I mean, we are still the owners of the property. We are still, if there is a

00:54:49.804 --> 00:54:57.200
- water leak in their spot, they should continue to communicate that way. I guess the real answer is until

00:54:57.200 --> 00:55:04.384
- this gets transferred, we're still involved, but the CIB is also going to, we're going to include the

00:55:04.384 --> 00:55:12.062
- CIB in those kinds of discussions, right? So we can't transfer, it wouldn't be right to transfer it without,

00:55:12.162 --> 00:55:18.526
- with a brand new lease or a new lease extension or something like that without having the CIB involved

00:55:18.526 --> 00:55:24.704
- because of the reason we're transferring it. We're transferring it for a different use. And I'm not

00:55:24.704 --> 00:55:31.006
- as up to, I don't think anybody in the commissioner's office or the county are as up to date on where

00:55:31.006 --> 00:55:37.184
- they're at in that process as they are. So we wanna make sure that we are working hand in hand with

00:55:37.184 --> 00:55:41.694
- them. So I would say while we're still have title, we're still involved,

00:55:41.826 --> 00:55:50.791
- But we would certainly want to make sure that the CIV is involved with any kind of conversation along

00:55:50.791 --> 00:55:51.934
- those lines.

00:55:52.066 --> 00:56:00.177
- Just for clarity, this resolution does need to go before the county council as well, because it is about

00:56:00.177 --> 00:56:08.443
- the transfer of real property, even though it was purchased by Inkeeper tax dollars. Well, this resolution

00:56:08.443 --> 00:56:16.168
- will go with it, but they have a different set of approvals. They have an approval. They have to do

00:56:16.168 --> 00:56:20.030
- setting the terms and conditions of the tree. OK.

00:56:20.354 --> 00:56:29.142
- And I appreciate that we have acknowledged the historic nature of some of the buildings on this property

00:56:29.142 --> 00:56:37.512
- as a whole. We appreciate the folks that are working hard and making a difference in our community,

00:56:37.512 --> 00:56:46.718
- my sister's closet and the businesses and the tenants. And we will have to see what the CIB's timeline is and

00:56:46.946 --> 00:56:58.226
- to address the concerns of my sister's closet. I would just like to explain for the public what West

00:56:58.226 --> 00:57:09.730
- lot is different, which is west of the beeline. It's behind the sort of an overflow lot of the current

00:57:09.730 --> 00:57:16.766
- convention center. And we do need that lot during the times of

00:57:16.898 --> 00:57:25.689
- early voting in both the primary and for the general election. So essentially April and October, essentially

00:57:25.689 --> 00:57:33.834
- with some spillover. Because our employees at North Showers will be using that West lot so that more

00:57:33.834 --> 00:57:42.302
- parking is available for county residents who wish to vote early and don't want to pay the city's meter.

00:57:42.658 --> 00:57:52.307
- And I don't blame them. I wouldn't either. So it keeps elections free in a sense. And we really won't

00:57:52.307 --> 00:58:01.862
- have that ability to free up that space until after the Justice Center project is done, because that

00:58:01.862 --> 00:58:11.038
- can then serve as an area for overflow parking for our North Shower's employees. Well, actually,

00:58:11.490 --> 00:58:19.183
- the employees that are occupying the parking garage will be at the new location and employees that nor

00:58:19.183 --> 00:58:26.726
- showers can use the parking garage extensively. So that will change, but we can't even say when that

00:58:26.726 --> 00:58:34.269
- is thus the previous resolution because time is of the essence in a lot of ways. And I think that is

00:58:34.269 --> 00:58:38.302
- all true. I would just point out that this resolution

00:58:38.690 --> 00:58:46.624
- and presumably what the council will look at will allow for that transfer of that West lot done earlier

00:58:46.624 --> 00:58:54.253
- than that. But it acknowledges that right now that's not really seen as a higher priority, a higher

00:58:54.253 --> 00:59:01.958
- need for the CIV at this point. That's also part of that whole. Right. And I've had discussions with

00:59:01.958 --> 00:59:06.078
- Mr. Whitecard and they're very willing to allow us to

00:59:06.370 --> 00:59:21.192
- to utilize that space for overflow parking, which is very kind. So, all right. With that, let's see

00:59:21.192 --> 00:59:35.422
- if there's any public comment on this item. Raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. So,

00:59:35.618 --> 00:59:46.068
- for clarity because this is still kind of muddy for me to understand. I don't walk in these conversations

00:59:46.068 --> 00:59:56.024
- very often. We are being asked on a daily basis multiple times by the media and by several concerned

00:59:56.024 --> 00:59:58.686
- citizens about our status.

00:59:58.850 --> 01:00:06.681
- I would like to be able to give them something that's a little bit more clear if possible. It kind of

01:00:06.681 --> 01:00:14.511
- sounds like that you have an urgent need to make a decision, but the CIB has not been able to clarify

01:00:14.511 --> 01:00:22.265
- their timeline. Does that mean that at least where my sister's closet is concerned, we could stay at

01:00:22.265 --> 01:00:26.718
- our location after the lease until you tell us we cannot?

01:00:27.042 --> 01:00:35.733
- I think your best next step would be to meet with Mr. Cockrell and a member of the capital improvement

01:00:35.733 --> 01:00:44.508
- board and set some sort of parameters. And that way you're not surprised your clients and the community

01:00:44.508 --> 01:00:53.030
- will know. So that timeline can be set, correct? I think it's, again, I think it has to include, and

01:00:53.030 --> 01:00:54.718
- I'm more than happy

01:00:54.946 --> 01:01:01.626
- to be your guys' representative there, but it has to include somebody from the CIB. I think what I felt

01:01:01.626 --> 01:01:08.307
- that you may be experiencing is something that, as a government attorney, I hear a lot is that you push

01:01:08.307 --> 01:01:14.859
- the one side or the other, because we've got two people who need to be part of that decision. We need

01:01:14.859 --> 01:01:20.062
- to get those two people with you, work out what solution, if any, there will be.

01:01:20.322 --> 01:01:27.460
- We would appreciate a conversation. We have been told to talk to one person after another, John Weichart,

01:01:27.460 --> 01:01:34.732
- who told us how the money from the food and beverage tax could be used and how the money that was allotted,

01:01:34.732 --> 01:01:41.466
- the $71 million, was only for the construction. At that time, we did ask if there was a possibility

01:01:41.466 --> 01:01:43.486
- of a grant to help us to make

01:01:43.842 --> 01:01:53.516
- our timeline towards renovation to help you out. He advised me to bring it to the property manager.

01:01:53.516 --> 01:02:03.189
- We were told by Talisha that we needed to speak to their property manager because they did not want

01:02:03.189 --> 01:02:08.510
- to be involved with that conversation. Last week I was

01:02:08.610 --> 01:02:15.062
- I did make those calls, I've made them several times. This last week I was put on hold six times to

01:02:15.062 --> 01:02:21.578
- an office with people where English was not their first language. And then I was finally transferred

01:02:21.578 --> 01:02:28.610
- to the Indianapolis office where I was told emphatically by the person in charge that under no circumstances

01:02:28.610 --> 01:02:36.030
- would there be any consideration for an extension on the lease. And then I informed her about the situation of our

01:02:36.130 --> 01:02:43.569
- business right next door to us who, because of a boiler issue, recently was able to extend their lease.

01:02:43.569 --> 01:02:51.294
- And she said she was not aware of that at all. So I have to believe that because that exists, then possibly

01:02:51.294 --> 01:02:57.374
- some kind of an exception can be made even just temporarily from my sister's closet.

01:02:57.666 --> 01:03:04.365
- but we have not been able to actually have much of a conversation. Given that, I know Jodi, that you

01:03:04.365 --> 01:03:10.998
- met with John Zodi recently and answered several of his questions and we met with him yesterday and

01:03:10.998 --> 01:03:17.631
- we're very grateful for that conversation. And Jeff, I appreciate the time that you've given us. We

01:03:17.631 --> 01:03:24.331
- just have women walking in on a regular basis and we're the only game in town doing what we do. It's

01:03:24.331 --> 01:03:25.790
- very unique and it's,

01:03:26.850 --> 01:03:32.960
- It keeps people from being in the system using all the social services they do. It helps them to stand

01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:39.011
- on their own two feet. It releases that money to be used for several of these other projects that you

01:03:39.011 --> 01:03:44.350
- have on your docket and agenda all the time that are extremely worthy and very important.

01:03:44.418 --> 01:03:52.056
- We feel that the work we do makes a difference. We would just like to be able to give people an answer

01:03:52.056 --> 01:03:59.472
- because I can't go anywhere without people asking me. And neither can anybody else who is connected

01:03:59.472 --> 01:04:07.110
- with my sister's closet. It just is getting to a point where we are having people offered to do things

01:04:07.110 --> 01:04:08.222
- in our behalf.

01:04:08.418 --> 01:04:15.013
- which would make it look like we are not in partnership with each other. And that's not what we want

01:04:15.013 --> 01:04:21.673
- because we feel that our organization has been walking step-in-step with the county commissioners and

01:04:21.673 --> 01:04:24.350
- their agenda to make a better community.

01:04:24.514 --> 01:04:31.510
- You would not have forgiven our rent all this time, you know, since April, if you did not believe that

01:04:31.510 --> 01:04:38.369
- you would not have kept it at such a ridiculously low rate that would have allowed us to function as

01:04:38.369 --> 01:04:44.414
- a mostly self sufficient organization under our power by operating this resale boutique.

01:04:44.962 --> 01:04:52.035
- Your input and your guidance during this time and those acts have allowed us to be able to serve all

01:04:52.035 --> 01:04:59.317
- these women all this time. You are much a part of their success as our own efforts and we do appreciate

01:04:59.317 --> 01:05:06.390
- what you're doing. Just give us some guidance and help me put some words on paper and in my mouth so

01:05:06.390 --> 01:05:12.062
- that I can let people know what they're really wanting to know and so they don't

01:05:12.386 --> 01:05:20.251
- make assumptions on their own about what we are trying to accomplish here. All right. Thank you.

01:05:20.251 --> 01:05:28.602
- Thank you. And we do appreciate the work that you and your agency does for women across our community,

01:05:28.602 --> 01:05:36.791
- for families. Thank you. And that's why we had forgiven the rent. And I think we were kind of caught

01:05:36.791 --> 01:05:42.142
- in that in between time of we knew this resolution was coming up.

01:05:42.498 --> 01:05:50.687
- Um, and, um, and not make a commitment because we knew this resolution was coming up. So you can understand

01:05:50.687 --> 01:05:58.270
- that. And I appreciate that. Um, but I think we do have a solution for you, which is a conversation

01:05:58.270 --> 01:06:05.853
- with a member of the CIB, uh, and Mr. Cockrell, and you can walk away with more certainty because I

01:06:05.853 --> 01:06:08.734
- don't know the CIB's timeline either.

01:06:08.834 --> 01:06:16.481
- I mean, they meet regularly, but I don't know what their plans are specifically for that part of the

01:06:16.481 --> 01:06:24.129
- property. And I'm not going to guess. But I guess I will try to reach out to the CIB attorney today,

01:06:24.129 --> 01:06:31.776
- see if we can get something scheduled for probably early next week. And I'll let you know what times

01:06:31.776 --> 01:06:37.758
- and we can make sure they all match up. I just want to be very careful because

01:06:39.042 --> 01:06:46.416
- or what we'll be talking about is potential to extend the lease. I don't think any of this group, CIB,

01:06:46.416 --> 01:06:54.076
- I mean, really anybody but the CVC or the County Council has any authority for providing the new operation

01:06:54.076 --> 01:07:01.451
- at the different location, right? I understand that. Yes, I'm glad you raised that. But you don't know

01:07:01.451 --> 01:07:06.462
- unless you ask, so. But I can tell you the County Council and the CVC

01:07:06.978 --> 01:07:13.169
- I actually don't even think the CBC has the authority to do that because I think that's outside their

01:07:13.169 --> 01:07:19.239
- bounds. But what I'll commit to is reaching out to the CIB attorney, see if we can't get something,

01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:25.734
- a meeting scheduled early next week. Maybe after this, I can, you can send me what times you are available

01:07:25.734 --> 01:07:32.046
- early next week. So maybe to make the scheduling a little easier and we could probably either meet here

01:07:32.046 --> 01:07:35.870
- or at your spot or at their, I mean, we're all within a block.

01:07:35.970 --> 01:07:42.409
- so or two so it's not that big a deal so we'll we'll try to get something scheduled early next week

01:07:42.409 --> 01:07:49.041
- thank you thank you very much all of you i really appreciate it thank you thank you for your heart for

01:07:49.041 --> 01:07:51.102
- your work we appreciate it sure

01:07:51.490 --> 01:07:57.566
- I know Jeff mentioned the historic properties communication, but this seems relevant now. I'd also like

01:07:57.566 --> 01:08:03.700
- to point out that the resolution says that the commissioners wish to communicate to the CIB that members

01:08:03.700 --> 01:08:09.600
- of the public have made a case for continuing the leases beyond their expiration date. And the board

01:08:09.600 --> 01:08:15.500
- of commissioners would not object to the extension so long as the ultimate use of the property is in

01:08:15.500 --> 01:08:21.342
- compliance with Indiana Code 6943A6, which is, of course, the ultimate goal of the innkeeper's tax.

01:08:22.498 --> 01:08:35.424
- Thank you. Any other public comment on this item? Okay. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving

01:08:35.424 --> 01:08:46.430
- resolution 2026-10 signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 3-0. Next item, please.

01:08:47.074 --> 01:08:53.807
- I would like to move approval for in dot revised agreement for eagles and bridge number 922 for construction

01:08:53.807 --> 01:08:59.983
- funds named eagles and bridge number 922 fund number 8176 in the amount of 5,326,229 dollars and 62

01:08:59.983 --> 01:09:03.998
- cents. Second, we have a motion and we have a second miss ridge.

01:09:04.546 --> 01:09:11.398
- This actually was approved on February 26th on the original contract. NDOT has updated some of their

01:09:11.398 --> 01:09:18.454
- definitions and things like grant agreement was changed to contract, so they resend it just so we could

01:09:18.454 --> 01:09:25.307
- re-sign for those changes. Thank you so much. This is not new funding. This is just a carryover from

01:09:25.307 --> 01:09:32.498
- before. Correct. The only thing that's changed is that clause. Yeah, just some wording and the finalizing

01:09:32.498 --> 01:09:34.398
- of the contract and things.

01:09:34.658 --> 01:09:41.106
- Perfect. All right. Thank you. Comments or questions, Commissioner Madeira? I have none. Thank you.

01:09:41.106 --> 01:09:47.747
- Commissioner Jones? No, I don't. I don't have any either. So let's see if there is any public comment.

01:09:47.747 --> 01:09:51.358
- You can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

01:09:58.306 --> 01:10:10.935
- those in favor of approving the end dot revised agreement for eagles and bridge number 9 22 for construction

01:10:10.935 --> 01:10:22.868
- signified by saying aye. I motion carries 30. Uh. You don't have any appointments today. Um I do have,

01:10:22.868 --> 01:10:27.966
- um, a couple of. Announcements I do want to

01:10:28.290 --> 01:10:39.698
- of the trees on Pete Ellis. Although not all of them could be saved, but at least some of them were

01:10:39.698 --> 01:10:51.334
- and I'm glad that that happened. I know there was a lot of community concern. Around that post office

01:10:51.334 --> 01:10:57.950
- when all those big red X is appeared on the trunks of the

01:10:58.178 --> 01:11:10.384
- essentially with the city it's part of that larger State Road 45 correction that's being done that will

01:11:10.384 --> 01:11:21.534
- provide a safer transit for folks in that on that side of town so sadly we lost some trees but

01:11:21.666 --> 01:11:30.177
- beauty is in the compromise and I just wanted to thank Ms. Ridge and Colonel Ferris for their efforts

01:11:30.177 --> 01:11:38.938
- to raise this issue at the MPO meeting and make something happen and get us to this point of compromise.

01:11:38.938 --> 01:11:44.862
- We still have appointments to make to boards and commissions including

01:11:45.122 --> 01:11:54.630
- the health board, the library board, and animal management, easy for me to say. And so if you are interested,

01:11:54.630 --> 01:12:02.495
- please go to in.gov slash county slash Monroe and take a look at the vacancies and or fill

01:12:02.495 --> 01:12:11.312
- out an application. We continue to have office hours via Teams each month, six times each month. Just

01:12:11.312 --> 01:12:14.942
- go to the calendar on that same homepage.

01:12:15.138 --> 01:12:26.177
- and we're looking at some potential for some severe weather tonight. So it's a great time to sign up

01:12:26.177 --> 01:12:37.544
- for the alert notification system where you will receive texts, emails and or phone calls about weather

01:12:37.544 --> 01:12:42.462
- emergencies to keep you informed. And we are

01:12:42.946 --> 01:12:53.697
- continuing to co-host the blood drive at Ivy Tech. Thank you, Ivy Tech. The next blood drives are Wednesday,

01:12:53.697 --> 01:13:04.054
- April 8th from 1 to 6 p.m. Thursday, April 9th from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. And that's at Ivy Tech, room C130A

01:13:04.054 --> 01:13:12.734
- and B. Please make an appointment at redcross.org. And for CASA's Child Abuse Awareness

01:13:12.866 --> 01:13:22.997
- We are lighting the courthouse blue. And when is that? Is that for the month? No. For the whole of April.

01:13:22.997 --> 01:13:32.554
- Aren't we good? OK. So there's the reminder. OK. Anything else from my colleagues? We do not have a

01:13:32.554 --> 01:13:42.494
- work session today. Our next, I have to open a calendar. Our next meeting is coming up soon. And it is.

01:13:43.010 --> 01:13:51.833
- April 2nd. There we go. Our next meeting is April 2nd, right here in the NetU Hill room at 10 a.m. And

01:13:51.833 --> 01:13:58.686
- with that, we are adjourned. Thanks, everyone. Thank you, Katz. Thank you, TSD.
