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- Good morning, I'm going to call to order this meeting Monroe County Board of Commissioners. It is Thursday,

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- June 4th already it's June, and like to note for the record that I'm the only commissioner here and

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- present in the net you know room. Therefore, we're going to take care of a few agenda items, and then

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- we're going to recess until Commissioner Madeira can join us she's at another.

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- and appointments and she cannot be here. So we'll get through what we can in the agenda to begin with

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- and then come back for the remainder. All right, so I'm going to start with our public statement. We,

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- the Monroe County Board of Commissioners, renew our commitment to welcome and protect the rights of

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- all people, regardless of age, race, color, creed, disability,

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- sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, marital status, economic status, and national origin. And

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- we affirm the right of every person to live peacefully and without fear. And we will fight and resist

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- at every step, discrimination and harmful policies, whatever their source. We believe in diversity,

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- equity, inclusion, and belonging. And we also stand in support of our county public school systems, both RBB,

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- and MCCSC. And with that, we will move on to our department updates, as I do not need a quorum for that.

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- Is Lori Kelly here from the health department.

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- Good morning. Good morning. Sorry. I just have a few updates. According to the Indiana Department of

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- Health, we have not seen any changes in wastewater concentrations for COVID as of June 2nd. The Health

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- Department does still keep a free stock of flu and COVID tests for the public. Anyone can walk in Monday

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- through Friday

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- between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. to receive free tests. The health department will be offering free walk-in

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- testing and treatment services for chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis every Thursday beginning June

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- 25th from three to six p.m. Lastly, the department does have appointments available for free lactation

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- counseling services. Individuals can call 812-349

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- 2075 for an appointment. Great. Thank you so much. I do not have any questions for you today. Appreciate

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- you joining us. Thank you. Any other department updates for us? You can raise your hand on Teams or

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- come to the podium. All right. Seeing none, I'll go ahead and open up public comment.

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- This is time for items not on our agenda. We ask each speaker to limit their time to three minutes per

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- person and to provide your name and county of residence when you begin speaking. Raise your hand on

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- teams or come to the podium. Hi, Commissioner Thomas. My name is Jonathan Pierce and I live in Floyd

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- County, Indiana.

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- I am the newly appointed director of field operations for Congresswoman Erin Houchin's office, and I

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- was in the area today, and I hadn't met you yet, so I just wanted to stop by and introduce myself, and

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- I won't need the full three minutes today, but just wanted to say hello, and I just wanted to offer

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- to be a friend and a resource to the county, whatever that looks like.

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- And I was hoping to give you my card. Is it OK if I can? If you would. Yeah, I was just going to ask

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- for that. Thank you. Perfect. Perfect. Well, I really appreciate the work that you guys do. And if there's

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- anything that I can do to support you all, please let me know. Thank you, Mr. Pierce. I appreciate it.

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- It's my pleasure. Thank you for your time.

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- Thank you. Does anyone else have public comment for items not on our agenda? All right. Seeing none,

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- I'm going to go ahead and read. Oh, we have bids.

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- Can we do the bids today? Yeah, I think we can open the bids. I don't think we're going to. Great. Let's

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- go ahead. These are the Monroe County Highway Parking Lot and Maintenance Yard bid opening. It's item

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- A under new business. Yes. And I just reiterate two weeks ago, we had a passive resolution because we

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- were going to open them last Thursday, but there wasn't a meeting. So we just said we would open them

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- today at 10 a.m. And so that's what we're doing. And the first bid is from EMB Paving.

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- out of Bloomington, Indiana.

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- I'm reading this correctly. The base bid from EMB Paving is $162,117.33. There is an alternative item

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- which they have a bid of $12,753.67.

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- Second bid is from Milestone Contractors of Bloomington, Indiana. They have a base bid of $180,841.25

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- and an alternative bid of $19,130. Next bid is from Lent's Paving.

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- have a base bid of $142,651.

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- first glance I do not see an alternate bid but on further study if we find it we will certainly take

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- that into account. Next bid is from All Star Paving, Inc. out of Seymour, Indiana.

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- They have a base bid of $178,152.40 and an alternate bid of $7,951.62. All the bids that we received.

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- Okay, so we've received four bids and with that we will go ahead and take it under advisement.

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- recommendation hopefully at your next meeting. Okay, July. Okay. All right. Since I have not heard what

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- time we're going to be doing. Just go to 11. Okay, great. I'm going to go ahead and recess this meeting

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- until 11am.

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- Um, and if I need to extend that recess, I will come out and tell you at 11. Um, and I appreciate everyone

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- for being here and I apologize for the delay in continuing with our meeting. All right. We are resist

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- until 11 AM. Thanks everyone. Sorry. Thank you. Um, I'm going to bring this meeting back to order following

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- our recess. I appreciate everyone's patience. Thank you. Um,

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- and we are going to continue with our meeting beginning and I will note for the record that Commissioner

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- Madeira is here and present in the Natt U Hill Room and we will begin with item five please. Yes I would

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- like to move approval of the minutes for May 21st, 2026. I will second that. Any comments, corrections

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- or edits? No I have sent mine in. Okay thank you.

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- All those in favor of approving the minutes for May 21st, 2026 signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries

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- to zero. Next item, please. I would like to move approval of the claims docket for accounts payable

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- for June 4th, 2026 and for payroll for May 29th, 2026. I will second that. Ms. Gallardo.

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- Good morning. The accounts payable claims docker for June 4, 2026 totals $12,055,453.99. This includes

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- all emergency claims and adjustments. The payroll docker for May 29 includes $1,618,040.85 in direct costs.

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- and the remaining $608,673.64 were for indirect costs for a grand total of $2,298,714.49. Thank you.

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- Thank you so much. Comments or questions, Commissioner Medeo? I have none. Thank you. I don't either.

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- Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

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- All those in favor of approving the claims docket accounts payable June 4th, 2026 and payroll for May

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- 29th, 2026 signify by saying aye. Motion carries to zero. I will note for the record that we have received

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- reports from the clerk's office for April, 2026 and weights and measures.

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- One measure in lots of weights, weights and measures, May 2026. Sometimes you only notice something

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- when you read it out loud. All right. We will move on to new business. Now, we've already handled item

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- A, which was the bid opening. And for item B, I'm going to go ahead and open a public hearing for ordinance

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- 2026-21, the vacation of right-of-way

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- 5109 North State Road 37 Business. You want me to go ahead and kick this off and kind of explain what's

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- going on? The county received, the commissioners received on I believe it was the 18th of May and I

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- think it had been filed with planning or another entity in the county before that a request to vacate

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- 75 feet of right away along Old State Road 37.

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- According to Indiana code, we have 30 days from when we received that to have a public hearing on that

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- matter. And so that is what is being brought forth today. Commissioner should be able to reference it,

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- but I did speak with Mr. Ayers in highway. And my understanding, and they can correct me if I'm wrong,

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- is what is really being, is at the end, the end result of this is that they're asking to remove

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- 75 feet of right-of-way in order to give us 50 feet of right-of-way so we'd have a net 25 foot change

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- between what we have today and what we would have at the end of this whole process. I guess my opinion

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- is I don't know why we wouldn't just vacate the 25 feet, but I expect we may hear why that shouldn't

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- occur that way as we move forward. But that's kind of it. This is a long old State Road 37.

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- The resolution meets highways, that ultimate resolution meets highways thoughts on this, and that allows

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- them to do some of the interior construction work on the subdivision. We have a petitioner present to

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- discuss this. I'm Doug Graham, I'm with the Fire and Fan Yo.

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- Okay. Great. Can you spell your last name so that we make sure we get in on record? Okay. Thank you,

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- sir. So I agree with your statement, sir. It was kind of a convoluted process. The reason I got set

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- at 75 feet in the first place, we prepared a type E

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- subdivision for Kelly to kind of adjust a lot lines between her and another property they own to the

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- north. And at the time, generally when we do that, we designate right away according to the thoroughfare

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- plan. At that time it said it should be 75 feet. So that's where we drew that.

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- We had that in, we had the mylar prepared, it was ready to go, and the county says, well, you know,

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- you may not want to do that because you're not going to have any parking out front, you're going to

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- have any room for landscaping. And so you would have to have a variance if you did that.

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- They also wouldn't tell us if they would support a variance at that time. That was kind of their policy.

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- They just say, well, you have to ask, well, will we get it? They said, well, we can't tell you. So we

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- kind of had a burden at hand. That plot was already prepared. It was going to pass. Or the one in the

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- bush was, we don't know if we would get a variance or not. So we just proceeded with that at 75 feet.

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- And then it came up this, well, now you need to do a plot plan, site plan, showing parking

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- landscaping, which, of course, there's no room for. That's why we needed to change it. Now, make an

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- even longer story for that one. Ben Ayers looked into that. The state highway back in the 40s, maybe,

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- had designated the right of way as 50 feet, which is what we're asking for now and which is what Ben

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- thinks that we should go for.

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- The state highway at that time didn't really record legal documents that actually established free title

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- to the state. So we, it's kind of like a limbo. So we're just, we're to make panning bin errors and

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- everyone happy. We'll dedicate that 50 feet and then they'll have room for the parking and our landscaping.

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- And the right away will be where the state thought they were buying to back in the forties and where

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- Ben thinks is a good idea.

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- So what is going in here? What is it? It's an existing business. It's premium and exotic. They sell

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- and lease trucking equipment, high-end tractor trailers and RVs. So there's nothing changing? No.

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- No use changing. Okay. All right. That actually makes sense. Yes. Okay. Thank you. All right. So let's

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- see if there's anyone here who wishes to speak in favor of the vacation of the right-of-way. Anybody

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- here who wishes to speak in opposition to the vacation of the right-of-way?

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- but it's down now. Anybody else have public comment to offer? I just want to say this is Tammy Beerman

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- in the planning department. Yes, we are in support of this and we're going to do more of a corrective

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- plat so that we can make the site plan work out here. Just wanted to put in that two cents that planning

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- is good with this as well. Thank you. Thank you for that information. Appreciate it.

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- I'm gonna go ahead and close the public hearing and move that we vacate right of way from a 5109 North

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- State Road 37 business and 5141 North State Road 37 business. I will second that motion. All right,

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- we have a motion and we have a second. This up for public comment again, even though we just had our

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- public hearing.

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- just to be sure. Some suspenders. All right, seeing no commenters. All those in favor of approving the

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- vacation of right of way on North State Road 37 business signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries

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- to zero. Next item, please. Thank you.

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- We'd like to move approval for Graber Post Buildings Incorporated Service Agreement, fund names 1,178

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- and 1,179, fund number county general, park non-reverting capital, and park non-reverting operating

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- in the amount not to exceed $27,770. Second, Ms. Whitmer. Yes, at the Will Dutmer Park, we have a 50-year-old

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- pole barn that we have probably done

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- almost nothing to. So hopefully the new roof and siding and doors will provide better security in another

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- 20 years of good life. Great. Thank you. And thank you again for your patience this morning waiting

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- for us to resume our meeting. Do you have any comments or questions? No. Thank you for the upkeep as

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- always. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You can raise your hand on teams or come

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- to the podium.

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- Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Graver Post Buildings Inc. Service Agreement signify

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- by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 2-0. Next item, please. Yes, I would like to move approval for the

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- request for approval of the Monroe County Nature Reserve Recreational Use Certification. I will second

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- that. And once again, we have Parks and Recreation Director Ms. Whitmer.

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- Yes, County Legal wrote up the certification, and I believe it's very well written. It's to provide

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- written certification to the Huntington trustee verifying and describing how the real estate is being

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- used for recreational purposes. The Park Board approved it. We need your approval. We'll give it to

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- the trustee. And if she approves it, which there should be no problem. And at that point, there's some

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- mathematical calculation, which I don't know, that she will

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- give a donation back to the Parks Department to help maintain this property. And we do this every year.

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- We'll be doing this every year around this time. Okay, I get, yeah, all right. Is that a yearly thing?

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- Good, good. Yeah, makes sense to me. Even though it's not open to the public yet. Correct, it's not

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- open to the public. This certifies our intention. Our intention and

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- that we show them their plans and I think they'll be happy. They just wanna make sure we're going on

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- the right path. Got it, no pun intended, or pun intended. All right, comments or questions? Nope.

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- All right, thank you for bringing this to us and we look forward to the annual renewal. Any public comment

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- on this item? Raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

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- Seeing none, all those in favor of approving Monroe County Nature Preserve Recreational Use Certification

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- signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries to zero. Thank you. Thank you. Please. Yes, I'd like to move

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- approval of the contract amendment for the Public Health Emergency Preparedness Grant. Fund name PHEP,

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- fund number 8104 and grant amount of $25,000.

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- I will second that. Miss Kelly, thank you for your patience as well. I know you were on earlier. Please

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- tell us all about this. This is standard grant funding that helps to support our public health preparedness

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- division. We have two full time employees who work in that. So this helps to provide funding for continued

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- training as well as supplies that we can use in public health emergencies.

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- and for ongoing education to the public and services such as vehicle maintenance and cell phones.

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- All right. Thank you so much. Uh, comments or questions. Commissioner Madeira, any public comment on

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- this item? You can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium and thank the health department and

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- the health board for bringing this forward.

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- Seeing no public comment, all those in favor of approving the contract amendment for public health emergency

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- preparedness grant signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 2-0. Thank you. Next item, please. Yes,

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- I'd like to move approval for the Cutters Soccer Club Memorandum of Understanding, the updated payment

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- schedule. I will second that. Ms. Whitmer. I hope not to confuse you. This is very simple. Let's keep

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- it simple, then.

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- Let's keep it simple. We signed an MOU with them in 2023 or so. Anywho, they missed their first payment.

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- So they requested the park board to take that first payment and move it to the last date on November

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- 15th, 2028, which means their first payment now will be June 15th, 2026. They just needed a little more time.

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- And the park board granted them that, and we hope that you grant them that also. Because the creation

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- of the athletic fields is not dependent on one organization providing payment, but it will help down

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- the road when they do. Correct. And this is to go to replace the turf every 10 or 15 years. You may

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- need to replace it. This won't be all the money, but it's a good start. And they were gracious enough to donate

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- This money overall will be $60,000. And the park board has vowed to set aside $30,000 each year for

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- 20 years for this process also. So we'll have it in one of our non-reverting accounts. And we'll show

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- everybody, oh, why do you have all that money? It's not our money. It's for this purpose. It's a good

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- plan. Thank you so much. Comments or questions, Commissioner Madeira? No.

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- Yeah, it was interesting because when I read the synopsis first, I was very confused. Yeah. But then

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- when I read the MOU, it was very clear. They just need to move their payment. One payment. One payment.

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- One payment. Payments do not start on the 2028, November 15. That's how it reads. OK, thank you. Yes,

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- that's how I know. That's not my writing. No, that's OK. That's OK. We're good. We're good.

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- All right, so let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand on teams or

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- come to the podium. I think it's a really good, fair deal to split this because they are going to be

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- a predominant user of those fields and it's a good agreement. And I do want to emphasize this is not

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- a rental agreement. Right. Just for turf replacement. Right. It's just a contribution toward the inevitable

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- turf replacement.

00:27:22.786 --> 00:27:31.156
- Correct. Got it. Thank you. Other than I'm really happy just we have access to the synthetic turf because

00:27:31.156 --> 00:27:39.210
- it just extends the playability. Oh, they've been playing on it a lot. Yes. Any public comment? Raise

00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:42.526
- your hand on teams or come to the podium.

00:27:47.682 --> 00:27:54.903
- Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Cutter's Soccer Club MOU updated payment schedule,

00:27:54.903 --> 00:28:02.340
- signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries zero. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next item, please. Yes,

00:28:02.340 --> 00:28:09.633
- I would like to move approval for the kiosk agreement with Custom Control Systems Incorporated doing

00:28:09.633 --> 00:28:16.926
- business as precision kiosk technologies. Fund name court alcohol drug user fees, public safety lit.

00:28:17.058 --> 00:28:27.788
- fund number 2504-2508 in the amount of $19,800 per 12 months per kiosk. Excellent. I will second that.

00:28:27.788 --> 00:28:29.246
- Good morning.

00:28:29.378 --> 00:28:36.658
- I am here for approval of the MOU with precision kiosk technology for us to use an automated kiosk system

00:28:36.658 --> 00:28:43.731
- which includes a breathalyzer. So this MOU is allowing us to obtain and use up to two automated kiosks

00:28:43.731 --> 00:28:50.943
- with one anticipated in our community corrections office and the other placed out in the community where

00:28:50.943 --> 00:28:56.574
- our clients would have access to it 24-7. The kiosk can be used for breathalyzers

00:28:56.706 --> 00:29:01.694
- client check ins drug testing scheduling and data collection and it supports.

00:29:01.762 --> 00:29:07.721
- all the areas of our community supervision, including pretrial, our probation program, our court alcohol

00:29:07.721 --> 00:29:13.509
- and drug program, community corrections, and the problem solving courts. It's really just another way

00:29:13.509 --> 00:29:19.241
- that technology gives us a tool to help monitor compliance in a secure and consistent manner. And it

00:29:19.241 --> 00:29:25.029
- allows us to reduce some of that administrative workload so our officers can spend more time focusing

00:29:25.029 --> 00:29:29.342
- on case management interventions with our higher and moderate risk clients.

00:29:29.474 --> 00:29:37.091
- and there's no obligation for us to use the kiosk for every program or every client. We just plan on

00:29:37.091 --> 00:29:44.935
- implementing it kind of thoughtfully and where it makes operational sense. Really good. Thank you. This

00:29:44.935 --> 00:29:52.778
- is great. I don't know how they do it technology-wise, so I'm impressed and I'm glad that you all found

00:29:52.778 --> 00:29:59.038
- this because this is one of those questions about when we co-locate in the future,

00:29:59.202 --> 00:30:07.142
- wherever we do, where's that service going? And now it sounds like it's going nowhere. It's going to

00:30:07.142 --> 00:30:15.318
- be available, but Ms. Purdy. My concern is, is go on our network. I'm just doing that because Mr. Crown

00:30:15.318 --> 00:30:23.337
- is right here. He always writes me about things going on in the network. So I wanted to see. Have you

00:30:23.337 --> 00:30:27.582
- had that discussion? I believe Linda has, but if I'm,

00:30:28.002 --> 00:30:36.023
- I could be mistaken. We'll just make this contingent on TSD approval. Is that okay? Absolutely.

00:30:36.023 --> 00:30:44.879
- All right, perfect. I'm gonna go ahead and move to amend this. Thank you, Ms. Purdy, to amend this motion

00:30:44.879 --> 00:30:52.983
- to be contingent on TSD approval. I second. All those in favor of amending the motion? Aye. Aye.

00:30:52.983 --> 00:30:56.158
- All right, so we now have it amended.

00:30:57.506 --> 00:31:04.539
- motion. So I don't anticipate any issues because obviously other counties are using this, but we want

00:31:04.539 --> 00:31:11.710
- to do things by the book. All right. Any questions? I really, again, I don't understand the technology.

00:31:11.710 --> 00:31:18.674
- I don't know how they can do this, but this is great. And thank you for finding it. And let's see if

00:31:18.674 --> 00:31:25.086
- there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

00:31:34.402 --> 00:31:43.513
- All those in favor of approving the amended motion for the kiosk agreement with custom control systems,

00:31:43.513 --> 00:31:52.712
- DBA, precision kiosk technologies, contingent on the approval of TSD, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion

00:31:52.712 --> 00:32:01.648
- carries 2-0. Thank you. Thank you. I'm glad you raised that. I just, you know, I think we need to add

00:32:01.648 --> 00:32:03.838
- that line to our agenda.

00:32:03.970 --> 00:32:10.361
- Yeah, please do that. Yeah, that would be great. All right. Thank you. Next item. Yes, I'd like to move

00:32:10.361 --> 00:32:16.753
- approval for the hoplite penetration testing agreement. Fund name cumulative capital fund number eleven

00:32:16.753 --> 00:32:23.082
- thirty eight in the amount of ninety thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars. I will second that. Mr.

00:32:23.082 --> 00:32:24.926
- Krum. Good morning, everyone.

00:32:25.762 --> 00:32:32.415
- I have not been able to find any record other than a kind of cursory testing that our cyber insurance

00:32:32.415 --> 00:32:38.937
- carrier did where Monroe County's actually had a deep penetration testing done on all its networks.

00:32:38.937 --> 00:32:45.721
- For those who don't know what deep penetration is, basically you're contracting with a company as white

00:32:45.721 --> 00:32:52.504
- hackers to go after your systems just the same as any threat actor would do to try to discover revealed

00:32:52.504 --> 00:32:54.526
- vulnerabilities in your system

00:32:54.882 --> 00:33:01.098
- bring them up for remediation. I've been trying to find a company for about the last three years to

00:33:01.098 --> 00:33:07.563
- perform these services. Most of the companies I talked to, it was one-off testing for $50,000, followed

00:33:07.563 --> 00:33:13.903
- up by one follow-up testing included in that contract. So I've been working with the state IOT office

00:33:13.903 --> 00:33:20.430
- because this is a broader problem for the state, not just this county. They turned me on to this Hoplite

00:33:20.430 --> 00:33:24.222
- company who's willing to do, for $30,000 annually, they will

00:33:24.386 --> 00:33:30.833
- perform a deep penetration test, then they will follow up with us every 30 days to retest any remediations

00:33:30.833 --> 00:33:37.038
- we've done or test any changes we've made to our environment. I felt it best to go ahead and lock this

00:33:37.038 --> 00:33:43.183
- in on three-year terms, because as these services, more people on board, the price is going to go up,

00:33:43.183 --> 00:33:49.750
- not down. So they did agree to do a three-year contract with us on this, and testing would start immediately

00:33:49.750 --> 00:33:50.654
- upon approval.

00:33:51.586 --> 00:33:57.147
- Excellent negotiation skills, as always, sir. So are you going to be aware, or is your staff going to

00:33:57.147 --> 00:34:02.709
- be aware when they run these tests, or you just know that at some point they're going to throw a test

00:34:02.709 --> 00:34:08.216
- at you once a year? They're going to throw a test at us. I don't want to know when they're executing

00:34:08.216 --> 00:34:13.941
- it, because I want to test our monitoring ability to detect anomalies. And we see it all the time. We're

00:34:13.941 --> 00:34:19.830
- constantly seeing outside entities trying to get into our network. So, yeah. No, I want it to be a surprise

00:34:19.830 --> 00:34:20.702
- for us as well.

00:34:22.114 --> 00:34:28.261
- That's what it is. How will you know that's what it is when it when it starts. Well it won't. I'll have

00:34:28.261 --> 00:34:34.408
- to. We'll have to get the IP addresses everything we see coming in and then that's when I'll reach back

00:34:34.408 --> 00:34:40.378
- out to hop like hey is this you. OK. So perfect. I was just curious because it's just so fascinating

00:34:40.378 --> 00:34:43.038
- that there are good hackers and bad hackers.

00:34:43.874 --> 00:34:50.741
- Sometimes your bad hackers become good hackers. Usually after they've been arrested and spent some prison

00:34:50.741 --> 00:34:57.284
- time. But then they come out and make more money than I ever will. Got it. All right, thank you. No,

00:34:57.284 --> 00:35:03.956
- it's a good deal. Comments or questions? Sorry, I made a stupid mistake. No, I think this is excellent

00:35:03.956 --> 00:35:11.018
- because this is kind of where we're headed. And otherwise, we're just taking a chance. And so unfortunately,

00:35:11.018 --> 00:35:12.702
- it's also very expensive.

00:35:12.898 --> 00:35:20.914
- but it's less expensive by far than an actual hack is, so. That's exactly right. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:20.914 --> 00:35:28.774
- Summer time reminds me of that summer. I'll never forget it. You didn't sleep a whole month. To not

00:35:28.774 --> 00:35:36.790
- be repeated. No, to not be repeated. All right. If there's any public comment on this item, you raise

00:35:36.790 --> 00:35:39.934
- your hand on Teams or come to a podium.

00:35:47.202 --> 00:35:55.575
- none all those in favor of approving the hoplite penetration testing agreement signify by saying aye

00:35:55.575 --> 00:36:04.031
- aye motion carries to zero next item please i would like to move approval for shi corporation lucidia

00:36:04.031 --> 00:36:12.404
- it agreement uh fund name 2022 geobahn fund number 4815 in the amount of twenty thousand two hundred

00:36:12.404 --> 00:36:16.798
- forty one dollars and 32 cents second so the primary

00:36:17.026 --> 00:36:22.188
- core network switches, which are the ones responsible for doing the bulk of the lift of moving your

00:36:22.188 --> 00:36:27.608
- traffic around your network. They're end of life. Some of them are pushing 20 years old, so we've gotten

00:36:27.608 --> 00:36:32.873
- our money's well worth out of them. We've already secured the new core switches. Those are already in

00:36:32.873 --> 00:36:38.035
- our possession. To get this project done, we're going to have to do it on a weekend, and we need to

00:36:38.035 --> 00:36:42.526
- be fast, because when we take these core switches down, we take the whole county down.

00:36:43.074 --> 00:36:48.779
- There's such a dramatic difference in the architecture of this new hardware compared to the environment

00:36:48.779 --> 00:36:54.265
- we're working in that we thought it best to leverage professional services to make sure that we can

00:36:54.265 --> 00:36:59.806
- get this done over a weekend and not drag this out for a week or more, or if we run into issues, not

00:36:59.806 --> 00:37:01.726
- being able to correct them timely.

00:37:01.954 --> 00:37:07.528
- are working with SHI Corporation. They're playing the middle man on this, which you're familiar with

00:37:07.528 --> 00:37:13.158
- their name. We buy a lot of things off them. But they've partnered with Lucidia IT Corporation, who's

00:37:13.158 --> 00:37:18.732
- actually going to come on site and help us get those core switches replaced. Great. And you're going

00:37:18.732 --> 00:37:24.251
- to alert employees to when this is going to happen? Yes. I was waiting on approval of the agreement

00:37:24.251 --> 00:37:27.838
- and then scheduling a time with Lucidia that works for everyone.

00:37:27.938 --> 00:37:34.044
- big impact is going to be obviously on our sheriff jail and you shelter. So I was going to want to coordinate

00:37:34.044 --> 00:37:39.594
- with all three entities to try to find, try to find the best time. They're in a great time for your

00:37:39.594 --> 00:37:45.533
- jail, but the best time that we could apply this. Excellent. Excellent. Thank you. It's really thoughtful.

00:37:45.533 --> 00:37:46.366
- Um, questions?

00:37:47.618 --> 00:37:52.570
- done, I think we need to get these things out of here before they have 21st birthday parties. Yeah,

00:37:52.570 --> 00:37:57.521
- there you go. Because you never know how drunk they're going to get. Right. Absolutely. That's what

00:37:57.521 --> 00:38:02.473
- they were going to do. Are these going to have a 20, are these new switches going to have a 20-year

00:38:02.473 --> 00:38:07.424
- lifespan as well? Or it seems like it seems to get shorter, no longer. Yeah. And well, to be honest

00:38:07.424 --> 00:38:12.673
- with you, these never were intended to run this long. We're about double past, typically, five, depending

00:38:12.673 --> 00:38:17.278
- on what the use load is on it, five to 10 years is what's what considered industry standard.

00:38:17.570 --> 00:38:29.745
- So, you know, we've enjoyed a long period of not paying for things. So, yeah, it's time to start doing

00:38:29.745 --> 00:38:42.157
- some more work. Sounds like a good plan. Thank you. Comments from the public? You may come to the podium

00:38:42.157 --> 00:38:47.358
- or raise your hand on Teams. It's not ours.

00:38:47.522 --> 00:38:58.433
- Maybe it's on. All right, seeing no public comment, all those in favor of approving the agreement with

00:38:58.433 --> 00:39:09.556
- SHI Corporation and Lucidia IT, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries to zero. Thank you very much.

00:39:09.556 --> 00:39:12.734
- Thank you. Next item, please.

00:39:13.122 --> 00:39:19.391
- Yes, I'd like to move approval of the TRAC funding request, fund name to be determined, fund number

00:39:19.391 --> 00:39:25.786
- to be determined in the amount of $5,399.25. I will second that. Ms. Kelly, welcome back. We're going

00:39:25.786 --> 00:39:32.180
- to have to adjust these agendas so people don't have to pop back on and off. Sorry about that. Thanks

00:39:32.180 --> 00:39:33.246
- for coming back.

00:39:33.442 --> 00:39:43.198
- No problem. We received an award for this funding that would support us to purchase 75 bleeding control kits.

00:39:43.650 --> 00:39:50.309
- So our two full-time public health preparedness employees that I mentioned previously, they provide

00:39:50.309 --> 00:39:57.167
- these trainings for free to the public and to staff within our Monroe County schools. And during those

00:39:57.167 --> 00:40:03.893
- classes, they distribute these kits for those who participate. We have used in the past some of that

00:40:03.893 --> 00:40:07.422
- grant funding for the purchase of these kits and the

00:40:07.522 --> 00:40:14.875
- The program has been so successful that we've run through all of those. So we actually found this council

00:40:14.875 --> 00:40:22.019
- who was agreeable to provide us with funding so that we could continue providing these classes. Great.

00:40:22.019 --> 00:40:28.955
- Thank you so much. Questions, Commissioner Madeira? No, this is one of those things where you don't

00:40:28.955 --> 00:40:34.782
- think you need them until you do. And then it's catastrophic. So this is very, very

00:40:34.946 --> 00:40:42.667
- essential and I'm glad that we can get these distributed. Thank you. Yeah, it's sad that we need them,

00:40:42.667 --> 00:40:50.462
- but it's gratifying that they're provided. So absolutely hope they never get used. Let's see if there's

00:40:50.462 --> 00:40:58.183
- any public comment on this item. It's another great service from our health department. Thank you. Um,

00:40:58.183 --> 00:41:01.406
- the public comment, you don't see any, um,

00:41:01.602 --> 00:41:09.729
- All those in favor of approving the track funding request, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries

00:41:09.729 --> 00:41:18.176
- 2-0. Thank you. Thank you. Next item, please. I'd like to move approval for ratification of the 2026-2027

00:41:18.176 --> 00:41:26.383
- Juvenile Detention Alternatives Initiative grant contract, fund name JDAI coordination implementation,

00:41:26.383 --> 00:41:30.526
- JDAI programming, JDAI data analysis, and research.

00:41:30.914 --> 00:41:37.947
- fund number 9122, 9123, and 9175 in the amount of $80,000. I will second that. Mr. Williams, it looks

00:41:37.947 --> 00:41:45.118
- like you're going to present for us. Thank you. Hello, yeah. The understudy today for Christine McAfee,

00:41:45.118 --> 00:41:52.359
- who's the expert in this. But hopefully we're all accustomed to receiving this JDI grant over the years.

00:41:52.359 --> 00:41:59.323
- This is for the 2026, 2027. We're receiving $80,000. And I think the highlight I would like to point

00:41:59.323 --> 00:42:00.702
- out is that $60,000

00:42:00.834 --> 00:42:07.968
- $2,800 of that is going to support local programming within Monroe County. Really good. Really good.

00:42:07.968 --> 00:42:15.384
- Um, how does that amount compared to last year? It's about, I believe it's right around the same amount.

00:42:15.384 --> 00:42:22.447
- Yes. Seems like there's great programming. I mean, I, yeah, we're going to get the contracts coming

00:42:22.447 --> 00:42:29.086
- in next, but there's some really great programming. Uh, commissioner majority. Any questions?

00:42:29.186 --> 00:42:38.447
- I think in the last couple of weeks especially we've heard how important it is the community to have

00:42:38.447 --> 00:42:47.617
- these non-carceral alternatives and I think that now more than ever before both those plus anything

00:42:47.617 --> 00:42:54.494
- that keeps anybody especially at these core ages out of the system is just

00:42:54.882 --> 00:43:03.592
- and especially out of detention is just so important. And so I think for every dollar spent, you can't

00:43:03.592 --> 00:43:12.303
- even anticipate the amount of return you get. So I think this is just so precious. So appreciate this.

00:43:12.303 --> 00:43:21.182
- Getting to youth early in the process, and even in some cases, I know some of the counseling is just for

00:43:21.346 --> 00:43:27.594
- family conflict resolution, things like that, that will help prevent youth from going wayward. Huge,

00:43:27.594 --> 00:43:33.965
- huge benefit to the community. So thank you. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You

00:43:33.965 --> 00:43:37.182
- can raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium.

00:43:46.594 --> 00:43:54.682
- All those in favor of ratifying the 2026-2027 Juvenile Detention Alternatives Initiative, JDAI grant

00:43:54.682 --> 00:44:03.011
- contract, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 2-0. Thank you. All right. Next item, please. Yes,

00:44:03.011 --> 00:44:11.179
- I would like to move approval for resolution 2026-21 regarding resolution 2025-58, notice to homeless

00:44:11.179 --> 00:44:13.982
- encampments. Second. Mr. Cockrell.

00:44:15.042 --> 00:44:22.855
- Yes, and I think I'm going to start with what this is not. This is not a change in the county stance

00:44:22.855 --> 00:44:30.667
- that was stated in that previous resolution, which basically said two different things. One, it said

00:44:30.667 --> 00:44:38.402
- we are not going to do any of our encampment removals without giving 30 days notice to those in the

00:44:38.402 --> 00:44:43.198
- encampment. And the second is that the members of the council

00:44:43.522 --> 00:44:49.863
- county commissioners are going to encourage, and the meetings have been occurring, a kind of conversation

00:44:49.863 --> 00:44:55.905
- with the city's leadership, county council, county commissioners, kind of figure out the best way to

00:44:55.905 --> 00:45:02.007
- handle these kind of situations. And if it were up to, I believe, the commissioners, that's the route

00:45:02.007 --> 00:45:08.048
- we would go in addressing these types of issues. Unfortunately, or, you know, the world is as it is,

00:45:08.048 --> 00:45:11.518
- the state decided to pass some legislation that indicated

00:45:14.018 --> 00:45:21.379
- some requirements on our law enforcement if they find people sleeping on public property without approval.

00:45:21.379 --> 00:45:28.396
- And so in that legislation it includes that the counties aren't allowed to have any policies in place

00:45:28.396 --> 00:45:35.482
- that may be seen as changing or in any way hindering law enforcement's ability to deal with that. What

00:45:35.482 --> 00:45:42.430
- this resolution does is essentially it gives notice to the individuals who are affected by this that

00:45:42.562 --> 00:45:48.965
- That legislation did change and it does affect the county's ability to maintain that 30 day notice provision.

00:45:48.965 --> 00:45:54.785
- Now I would say that the commissioners are willing to, if it's a commissioner started process where

00:45:54.785 --> 00:46:00.780
- we're going to do that, that that 30 days notice will still have some power and carry some weight, but

00:46:00.780 --> 00:46:06.601
- we have to be able to react to situations that are the result of this new legislation by state law.

00:46:06.601 --> 00:46:09.278
- So this is kind of giving people notice that,

00:46:10.274 --> 00:46:17.310
- This occurred and it kind of makes everything we had said in the original resolution as far as the 30

00:46:17.310 --> 00:46:24.347
- days notice, it kind of overwrites that. It makes it something that we can't necessarily maintain. So

00:46:24.347 --> 00:46:31.452
- that's what this is. It is not saying that we are now going to be able to go out three days from today

00:46:31.452 --> 00:46:36.350
- and start issuing notices that you have to leave and things like that.

00:46:36.578 --> 00:46:46.337
- clearly does not overwrite 257. And it also does not go into effect until July 1st, which is when that

00:46:46.337 --> 00:46:55.907
- state legislation. All right. So we're essentially almost 30 days out from that. Questions? Nope. So

00:46:55.907 --> 00:47:03.582
- this frustrates me a lot. And I think it's a very emotional issue for me. Sorry.

00:47:04.290 --> 00:47:10.519
- I think this is an issue I spent a lot of time thinking about. I think we have an obligation to protect

00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:16.868
- public spaces and the quality of life for all residents. We also have an obligation to say really clearly

00:47:16.868 --> 00:47:23.157
- that homelessness isn't solved by pushing people from one place to another. And poverty shouldn't become

00:47:23.157 --> 00:47:29.386
- a pathway into the criminal legal system. So people don't have to sleep outside because it's easy. They

00:47:29.386 --> 00:47:34.238
- sleep outside because they run out of options. Because housing is too expensive,

00:47:34.402 --> 00:47:40.689
- Shelter is unavailable and unsuitable, and treatment is hard to access, and the safety net has failed

00:47:40.689 --> 00:47:46.853
- them. And so the law may require local governments and law enforcement to respond, but our county's

00:47:46.853 --> 00:47:53.202
- response shouldn't begin and end with enforcement. It has to include shelter. It has to include mental

00:47:53.202 --> 00:47:57.886
- health care. It has to include substance use treatment and case management.

00:47:57.986 --> 00:48:03.314
- and affordable housing and serious coordination among county government and city government and service

00:48:03.314 --> 00:48:08.642
- providers and courts and law enforcement in the state. And we can acknowledge legitimate concerns about

00:48:08.642 --> 00:48:12.382
- public health and safety without dehumanizing people who are in a house.

00:48:13.218 --> 00:48:18.922
- And so our goal should be fewer encampments because more people have housing and not because people

00:48:18.922 --> 00:48:24.682
- have citations or warrants for jail time. And Murrow County should approach this moment with urgency

00:48:24.682 --> 00:48:30.614
- and with compassion and with realism because criminal penalties are not housing policy. So if the state

00:48:30.614 --> 00:48:36.318
- of Indiana is going to impose new obligations on local communities, then it also should help people

00:48:36.450 --> 00:48:42.491
- to help provide the resources needed to meet people where they are and to move them towards stability.

00:48:42.491 --> 00:48:48.355
- And I don't see that happening here. And so especially around SB1, this is going to hit communities

00:48:48.355 --> 00:48:54.338
- hard. It's going to hit humans hard. And so that's why I think you hear the tone in my voice that you

00:48:54.338 --> 00:49:00.437
- hear, because we're all human. And these are our neighbors. And these are our brothers and our sisters.

00:49:00.437 --> 00:49:05.246
- And I don't want to have to put my brothers and sisters and my neighbors in jail.

00:49:05.666 --> 00:49:15.912
- This really is horrible. Yeah, I appreciate it. And thank you for your emotive and logical, at the same

00:49:15.912 --> 00:49:25.763
- time, statement. I think this is another, I mean, on the one hand, looking at the facts of it, it's

00:49:25.763 --> 00:49:34.334
- another unfunded mandate from the state of Indiana. Terrible, because there is nothing

00:49:35.138 --> 00:49:46.029
- to help prevent folks not having shelters, so basic. I know that there are a lot of good folks in the

00:49:46.029 --> 00:49:57.026
- community. I know that there are a lot of agencies, churches, and other really well-meaning people who

00:49:57.026 --> 00:50:03.326
- are involved. I hope they are able to fill the gap because

00:50:03.458 --> 00:50:18.074
- beyond being an unfunded mandate, this is a human tragedy. And it is horrible to imagine what will happen

00:50:18.074 --> 00:50:32.414
- here in Monroe County, but across the state especially, where they may have different kinds of leaders.

00:50:33.442 --> 00:50:42.371
- It's now erecting another barrier for someone getting employment or getting a place to live because

00:50:42.371 --> 00:50:51.479
- now they will potentially have a record that they may not have had before. It doesn't solve anything.

00:50:51.479 --> 00:51:00.766
- It solves nothing, the state law. But it makes sense for us to step back and to say, look, we intend to

00:51:01.026 --> 00:51:09.875
- provide as much notice as possible if there is a county-based encampment that we are trying to move,

00:51:09.875 --> 00:51:18.899
- disassemble, and hopefully get people into housing and shelter and safe places and dry places and warm

00:51:18.899 --> 00:51:27.923
- places and cool places in the summer that we will follow through with our intention, but we can't step

00:51:27.923 --> 00:51:29.150
- on state law.

00:51:29.602 --> 00:51:38.414
- And that's the unfortunate thing, so yeah. It's a double cruelty. It really is. It's a double life sword.

00:51:38.414 --> 00:51:47.475
- It really is. So it's so hard. And it's a nationwide problem, but it's a local problem. And it's a statewide

00:51:47.475 --> 00:51:56.702
- problem, but it's a local problem. And as much as it's a local problem, it's an individual problem too, right?

00:51:58.690 --> 00:52:06.269
- We could just do so much better. I don't know how we can do better, but I hope we can do better and

00:52:06.269 --> 00:52:14.152
- figure something out. And again, thank you for your impassioned speech. Let's see if there's any public

00:52:14.152 --> 00:52:22.110
- comment on this item. You can raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium here in the NatU Hill Room.

00:52:27.074 --> 00:52:34.062
- Good morning, commissioners. This is Christopher M.G. from the Greater Bloomington Chamber of Commerce,

00:52:34.062 --> 00:52:41.318
- and I understand the gravity of this situation. You are where you are. The state legislation is an unfunded

00:52:41.318 --> 00:52:48.105
- mandate in that we have to react to it accordingly. But it is an opportunity to sort of rethink some

00:52:48.105 --> 00:52:54.958
- of the things that we do in making sure we're tying coordination with the city, the service providers

00:52:54.958 --> 00:52:56.638
- in this, and making sure

00:52:57.090 --> 00:53:03.613
- These encampments don't grow to where they become unreasonably harder to deal with. I think encampments

00:53:03.613 --> 00:53:10.262
- are not safe places. These are not ideal places for people to live. They need housing. They need shelter.

00:53:10.262 --> 00:53:16.660
- We hear from our employers or property owners on the safety, the property damage caused, and the lack

00:53:16.660 --> 00:53:22.430
- of clarity of who's responsible when these issues arise from a public and private property.

00:53:23.714 --> 00:53:29.672
- When July 1 comes, and we encourage you just to coordinate some of this, business shouldn't be left

00:53:29.672 --> 00:53:35.213
- guessing on the processes. We should be hitting interventions early. As mentioned, shelters,

00:53:35.213 --> 00:53:41.410
- mental health, caseworkers, those are all important. And it's important we do this early in the process

00:53:41.410 --> 00:53:47.547
- before the encampments become larger and become more of a problem that we did see last December, where

00:53:47.547 --> 00:53:48.798
- it seemed to sort of

00:53:50.082 --> 00:53:56.206
- rather than it should have, because of a lack of clarification, because of a lack of streamlining and

00:53:56.206 --> 00:54:02.330
- planning. So as much as we're sort of put in this situation, it does give us a chance, July 1, to hit

00:54:02.330 --> 00:54:08.334
- the reset button on it. I thank you for your time today. Appreciate it. Thank you. Anyone else have

00:54:08.334 --> 00:54:13.918
- public comment on this item? You raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium. I will note

00:54:13.918 --> 00:54:19.742
- that Commissioner Medeira has been working with city colleagues on this. It's an ongoing effort.

00:54:19.906 --> 00:54:24.272
- It's been going on for several months, really, and heading home is part of that as well. So we have

00:54:24.272 --> 00:54:28.681
- a member of County Council and we have Commissioner Madeira, and then we have a City Council member,

00:54:28.681 --> 00:54:33.221
- Mayor's Office, and heading home. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

00:54:33.221 --> 00:54:37.587
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

00:54:37.587 --> 00:54:41.953
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

00:54:41.953 --> 00:54:46.318
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

00:54:46.318 --> 00:54:48.894
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes

00:54:49.026 --> 00:54:56.377
- And I think the suggestion is a good one to find a way to reach out to business owners specifically

00:54:56.377 --> 00:55:03.802
- before July 1st and maybe that's something I'm sure the Chamber could help with that. I'm just going

00:55:03.802 --> 00:55:11.520
- to put you on the spot and ask you to help with that. But I'm sure you could help with that. And that's,

00:55:11.520 --> 00:55:18.430
- you know, but you have to have getting that plan done has been a little bit more problematic.

00:55:18.722 --> 00:55:26.469
- Yes. And I've been reaching out to the faith community and I'll be happy to reach out to the chamber

00:55:26.469 --> 00:55:34.140
- as well. So all those in favor of approving resolution twenty twenty six dash twenty one signify by

00:55:34.140 --> 00:55:41.888
- saying aye. I motion carries two zero. Can I just say one more thing. So the city had a doesn't have

00:55:41.888 --> 00:55:48.638
- a resolution there. They actually just had a policy so they also will nix their policy.

00:55:48.802 --> 00:55:55.379
- July 1st, and so you won't see them repealing anything for the members of the public out there because

00:55:55.379 --> 00:56:02.019
- they don't have a resolution. We did have a resolution and so that's why we actually have to explicitly

00:56:02.019 --> 00:56:08.532
- repeal ours. But both will be null and void because of the state law. As Attorney Jeff Cockrell said,

00:56:08.532 --> 00:56:15.045
- that's why we have to. It's not a change in policy. But it's still our intention to provide notice if

00:56:15.045 --> 00:56:18.046
- it's a county-determined, county-based action.

00:56:18.178 --> 00:56:24.444
- Uh, we cannot control what the public does, residents, businesses, et cetera. So that's the unfortunate

00:56:24.444 --> 00:56:30.469
- part. We can only control what we do. Yes. And it does have that private enforcement component. And

00:56:30.469 --> 00:56:36.494
- I believe if we did not enforce, then we'd have that, you know, state hand come down as well. Yeah.

00:56:36.494 --> 00:56:42.037
- Yeah. Uh, so thank you. Next. Uh, yes. Um, I'd like to move approval for ordinance, uh, 20,

00:56:42.037 --> 00:56:46.014
- 26 dash 18, the revised building permit and license fee schedule.

00:56:46.754 --> 00:56:57.452
- I will second that. Schilling. Very much. Dave Schilling from the legal department here with Bobby LaRue,

00:56:57.452 --> 00:57:07.848
- the building commissioner. And this is an ordinance just to update the building permit fees. It hasn't

00:57:07.848 --> 00:57:15.518
- been done for probably 12 years, 14 years. Okay. And the recent legislation

00:57:16.834 --> 00:57:28.133
- been enacted that limits the county's ability to increase effective at the end of the year we can only

00:57:28.133 --> 00:57:39.213
- increase the fees one time per year according to tied to an index unless the council approves a hire

00:57:39.213 --> 00:57:45.246
- after a hearing so we're getting it done right now the

00:57:45.442 --> 00:57:56.525
- fees will not take effect, they cannot take effect for 180 days after publication. And last time we

00:57:56.525 --> 00:58:08.272
- were here, we spoke about possibly just having the start date for the new fees as January 1. So I propose

00:58:08.272 --> 00:58:11.486
- this amendment to section 3.

00:58:11.682 --> 00:58:21.599
- that that section would read the exhibit a fee shall become effective on the date 180 days after being

00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:32.094
- published in accordance with Indiana code 36248 E as amended or on January 1, 2027, whichever date is later.

00:58:33.410 --> 00:58:43.876
- And then the second amendment is the Scrivener's area right underneath that. It says it's so resolved

00:58:43.876 --> 00:58:54.445
- before it should be so ordained. So with those two proposed amendments, we would request your approval

00:58:54.445 --> 00:58:59.678
- of this fee. So did you incorporate those into the

00:59:04.226 --> 00:59:15.392
- you incorporate those amendments in already in the packet no they are not in the packet so I will you

00:59:15.392 --> 00:59:26.887
- know what I did is I went back to the that's what got me off track yes perfect thank you thank you great

00:59:26.887 --> 00:59:32.798
- thank you so much I'm gonna go ahead and move that we

00:59:33.026 --> 00:59:42.594
- I would like to amend ordinance 2026 dash 18 to reflect section 3 exhibit a fee shall become effective

00:59:42.594 --> 00:59:51.883
- on the date 180 days after being published in accordance with Indiana code as amended or on January

00:59:51.883 --> 01:00:01.822
- 1st, 2027, whichever date is later. So ordained by the Board of Commissioners. Can I get a second on that?

01:00:05.186 --> 01:00:20.729
- And my name's Miss Beldens. My name is Miss Beldens. I already sent that one in. All right, so all those

01:00:20.729 --> 01:00:29.758
- in favor of amending the motion, signify by saying aye. Aye.

01:00:31.362 --> 01:00:40.505
- The motion carries to amend Ordinance 2026-18. Anything else that we need to know? No. Yeah. Questions?

01:00:40.505 --> 01:00:49.385
- No, no questions. Okay. I don't have any either. Any public comment on this item? Can you raise your

01:00:49.385 --> 01:00:52.638
- hand on Teams or come to the podium?

01:01:00.226 --> 01:01:08.460
- Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the amended ordinance 2026-18 signify by saying aye. Aye.

01:01:08.460 --> 01:01:16.534
- Motion carries 2-0. Next item, please. I would like to move approval for Ordinance 2026-19, amending

01:01:16.534 --> 01:01:24.528
- the Monroe County Code, Chapter 430, the Building Code. Second. Thank you very much. Dave Schelling

01:01:24.528 --> 01:01:27.166
- from the Legal Department again.

01:01:27.298 --> 01:01:35.948
- This ordinance just updates our what we call the building code, the Monroe County Building Code to reflect

01:01:35.948 --> 01:01:44.275
- recent amendments to state law, adding some definitions. There's a new procedure that applies to class

01:01:44.275 --> 01:01:52.441
- two structures which are your residential structures. The building department has to provide notices

01:01:52.441 --> 01:01:55.998
- and respond within certain amounts of time.

01:01:56.130 --> 01:02:04.628
- to applicants and there's an opportunity for applicants to employ a private inspector rather than using

01:02:04.628 --> 01:02:12.964
- the building department. So that this just the intent of this ordinance is to just update some of the

01:02:12.964 --> 01:02:20.318
- terms in our building code and to make it consistent with recent amendments to state law.

01:02:24.674 --> 01:02:34.528
- You presented this to us last time as well. Thank you for that. I don't have any questions either, but

01:02:34.528 --> 01:02:44.478
- once again, we're gonna have to amend 2026-19 to reflect the partners error on ordained versus resolved

01:02:44.478 --> 01:02:53.758
- at the very end, section two. Can I get a second for that? Yes, I'd like to second that and just

01:02:54.082 --> 01:03:02.545
- And what I'm trying to figure out, this is the one with the private inspector provision. Is that correct?

01:03:02.545 --> 01:03:10.609
- Private building inspector? Yes. Okay. Yeah. I think I just, I was looking through things. I think I

01:03:10.609 --> 01:03:18.593
- just answered my own question. Okay. I was trying to, yeah. You had me on tenterhooks. Okay. Sorry.

01:03:18.593 --> 01:03:19.870
- I was like, oh.

01:03:20.354 --> 01:03:29.682
- All right, let's see if there's any public comment on this item. Did you have anything you wanted to

01:03:29.682 --> 01:03:39.101
- add, Mr. Lueber? Okay. I was just going to answer the question if she, if Commissioner Madeira. Yeah,

01:03:39.101 --> 01:03:45.566
- no, I think I answered it. Okay. Thank you. Seeing no public comment.

01:03:47.170 --> 01:03:57.743
- All those in favor of approving the amended ordinance 2026-19 signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries

01:03:57.743 --> 01:04:07.813
- 2-0 and I will note that we have the same thing for the next item if you could just make it part of

01:04:07.813 --> 01:04:09.726
- your motion. Okay.

01:04:11.682 --> 01:04:17.340
- I think I may be confused on that. But that's right. I can make the motion. I'm going to go ahead and

01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:23.053
- move to approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash twenty to amend Monroe County code chapter four three

01:04:23.053 --> 01:04:28.600
- three with the note that the Scrivener's error needs to be addressed to at the very end, which is I

01:04:28.600 --> 01:04:34.202
- believe in section three on this one. That's yeah, I didn't know what section. So can I get a yes, I

01:04:34.202 --> 01:04:37.918
- would like to second that motion. Thank you. The motion is second.

01:04:41.122 --> 01:04:49.602
- Thank you very much. This ordinance amends chapter 433, which is our contractor registration ordinance

01:04:49.602 --> 01:04:57.835
- and licensing ordinance. So there's electrical contractors, which the county is still authorized to

01:04:57.835 --> 01:05:06.150
- license. So this sets forth the process for licensing of electrical contractors. The state regulates

01:05:06.150 --> 01:05:07.550
- the licensing of

01:05:07.746 --> 01:05:14.986
- plumbers. And so we just we just require licensed plumbers to register with the county. That's basically

01:05:14.986 --> 01:05:21.605
- it. We've just updated some of the procedures and the terms that are in this our old ordinance.

01:05:21.605 --> 01:05:28.499
- We've changed, make them consistent with current practice and some of the statutory language. Thank

01:05:28.499 --> 01:05:35.739
- you so much. Questions? No, I just think all of this is frustrating because it starts at the state level

01:05:35.739 --> 01:05:37.118
- and then we have to

01:05:38.178 --> 01:05:47.515
- amend. And this is sort of the frustration I still have on 2026-19. And again, I answered my own question

01:05:47.515 --> 01:05:56.500
- there. Do you ever think that they're going to also make the changes that we've seen with plumbing on

01:05:56.500 --> 01:06:05.309
- the electrical side as well and just take everything up to the state? Bobby LaRue with the building

01:06:05.309 --> 01:06:06.366
- department.

01:06:06.722 --> 01:06:16.741
- It's a really good question. I know that most surrounding states have state issued license for electricians.

01:06:16.741 --> 01:06:26.208
- Certainly there are some advantages to that for electricians and for our department to be quite frank.

01:06:26.208 --> 01:06:36.318
- Licensing electricians is a lot of work for the board. We have to, we talk to a lot of people and we have to,

01:06:36.450 --> 01:06:44.658
- verify test results and do a lot of maintenance with those license. I don't have a great answer. What

01:06:44.658 --> 01:06:52.704
- I understand the history of this was that there was a certain in the past there were certain groups

01:06:52.704 --> 01:07:01.073
- of people who felt like they were going to benefit from state issued license and as it turned out those

01:07:01.073 --> 01:07:06.142
- groups didn't benefit from the state issued license and so the

01:07:06.242 --> 01:07:13.238
- the motion or the momentum to continue different type of state issued licensing is just petered out.

01:07:13.238 --> 01:07:20.166
- So I don't know if they'll ever... Sorry, I don't have a better answer other than to talk a lot. So

01:07:20.166 --> 01:07:27.231
- I'll just leave it at that. No, that's great. That actually was very helpful because it fascinates me

01:07:27.231 --> 01:07:34.782
- sort of like how these are different from state to state because this is actually much harder than plumbing.

01:07:35.170 --> 01:07:43.313
- You think it would just be the opposite. And I've asked that question. And why did we start with plumbing?

01:07:43.313 --> 01:07:51.075
- And the answer, and it's somewhat true, is that plumbing errors and cross connections can contaminate

01:07:51.075 --> 01:07:59.142
- communities, not necessarily, you know, electrical issues generally affect the structure that they happen

01:07:59.142 --> 01:08:04.926
- in. And contamination of potable water can affect a large number of people.

01:08:05.346 --> 01:08:12.585
- Oh, gosh. OK, so it's not particularly shocking. Sorry. Pardon. Sorry. You're getting underwater with

01:08:12.585 --> 01:08:19.896
- your jokes. Stop it. Excellent. Thank you so much. That does help shed light on it. And with that, Mr.

01:08:19.896 --> 01:08:26.993
- MG is packing up. Sorry. We're driving him out with the jokes. So yes, thank you so much. That does

01:08:26.993 --> 01:08:33.310
- make sense from that vantage point. Thank you. And that actually concludes my questions.

01:08:33.730 --> 01:08:42.296
- Yes, and Mr. Schelling, thank you so much for doing all of the due diligence just to bring these up

01:08:42.296 --> 01:08:50.948
- to snuff with the state, so thanks. Yeah, and I do want to thank both of you for being patient today

01:08:50.948 --> 01:09:00.542
- with our recessed meeting. Yes, thank you. The other thing is I think what's worrisome for me is these kinds of

01:09:00.802 --> 01:09:08.912
- Changes in state law and I think it's still true that about a third of state legislators are builders

01:09:08.912 --> 01:09:17.181
- or developers So I think it's Interesting to see what happens Fox and hen house and all of that Anyway,

01:09:17.181 --> 01:09:24.894
- all right any public comment on this item you raise your hand on teams or come to the podium and

01:09:34.210 --> 01:09:46.169
- motion carries. All those in favor of approving ordinance 2026 dash 20 as amended signify by saying

01:09:46.169 --> 01:09:58.726
- aye. I motion carries 2, 0, thank you thank you. I just say one other thing. I just wanted to say thanks

01:09:58.726 --> 01:10:03.390
- to Kirk Sylvester and and the building

01:10:03.650 --> 01:10:09.411
- comments in it over the last Several months to try to make these the best that they can and they all

01:10:09.411 --> 01:10:15.171
- three of them have been extremely gracious with their time And I really appreciate it. So thank you.

01:10:15.171 --> 01:10:20.989
- Thank you, sir Thank you for asking the questions because that's how the sausage gets made. There you

01:10:20.989 --> 01:10:26.750
- go. So yeah Yeah, thanks for your hard work and I apologize for holding everything up and looking at

01:10:27.010 --> 01:10:33.382
- feeble minded because I had I had put questions in a version of the PDF packet and then I can't I couldn't

01:10:33.382 --> 01:10:39.457
- find that version. So I was trying to find the portions of the packet that I had the questions on and

01:10:39.457 --> 01:10:45.591
- like trying to and I was like just yeah. So sometimes best laid plans if you can't find the file ready

01:10:45.591 --> 01:10:51.666
- for the new ready for the next item. Thank you. I'd like to move approval for the ratification of the

01:10:51.666 --> 01:10:55.358
- agreement between the Monroe County commissioners and in dot.

01:10:55.554 --> 01:11:03.349
- Uh, for the baby Creek road bridge, number six, 29 replacement funding. Oh, I'm sorry. Fund name, baby

01:11:03.349 --> 01:11:11.069
- Creek road bridge, number six, 29 fund number 81 67 in the amount of 1,689,600. Who's doing this one?

01:11:11.069 --> 01:11:18.334
- I can do it. Or you can do it since I go ahead and get started. Cause I'm scrolling down to it.

01:11:18.562 --> 01:11:26.000
- OK. All right. So this was this is a ratification because the index fiscal year was ending and the time

01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:33.510
- that we were going to be able to get this on to your agenda was not in alignment. And if we waited until

01:11:33.510 --> 01:11:40.734
- we could get it on the agenda such as today it would it would end up becoming null and void by India

01:11:40.734 --> 01:11:43.166
- and they would have to resend it.

01:11:43.330 --> 01:11:50.861
- So what this is doing is you guys had, I've reached out to you individually and you've approved the

01:11:50.861 --> 01:11:58.467
- signature of this. And this is just making it a formal approval of this particular project and fund.

01:11:58.467 --> 01:12:06.675
- Thank you. Let's ask her some really tough questions. What about the right of way and the public engineering

01:12:06.675 --> 01:12:12.926
- project portion of the, anyway, okay, we'll do that. I think ultimately this is a,

01:12:13.762 --> 01:12:21.306
- project that needs to be done. We've gone through a very lengthy process to prioritize bridges and determine

01:12:21.306 --> 01:12:28.365
- which is the most appropriate to fund. And this one was the next one to be identified to be done. And

01:12:28.365 --> 01:12:35.494
- these processes take such a long time, too. Yep. All right. So let's see if there's any public comment

01:12:35.494 --> 01:12:40.062
- on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium.

01:12:46.882 --> 01:12:53.828
- Seeing none, all those in favor of ratifying the agreement between Monroe County Commissioners and INDOT

01:12:53.828 --> 01:13:00.642
- for Baby Creek Road Bridge 629 replacement, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 2-0. Last item,

01:13:00.642 --> 01:13:07.588
- please. I would like to move to approve the change order number 6 with INDOT for the Vernal Pike Sunrise

01:13:07.588 --> 01:13:13.872
- Greetings Extension. Fund name, Vernal Pike Sunrise Greetings, fund number 8165 and the amount

01:13:13.872 --> 01:13:16.254
- of $148,481.69. I will second that.

01:13:17.026 --> 01:13:25.962
- I was not involved in this one. This is the final project tabulation on the Vernal Pike Sunrise Greetings

01:13:25.962 --> 01:13:34.981
- Extension. The project connects basically the back of Lowe's to Vernal Pike through the Sunrise Greetings.

01:13:34.981 --> 01:13:44.254
- I've always called it the bridge over the railroad because there's a railroad that hooks into the roundabout.

01:13:46.626 --> 01:13:55.735
- created when we extended Dan profile Parkway, sorry, profile. So this is, I think this is what is necessary

01:13:55.735 --> 01:14:04.422
- to close it out. Yeah. It looks like the final items, um, backfill additional asphalt grade conflicts,

01:14:04.422 --> 01:14:13.447
- the lineators sidewalk sections, uh, overruns were documented tickets and field calculations and justified

01:14:13.447 --> 01:14:15.134
- by each department.

01:14:16.066 --> 01:14:25.105
- So with that in mind, any public comment on this item? Thank goodness it's done. I just went through

01:14:25.105 --> 01:14:34.501
- that intersection yesterday. The other side of it goes to nowhere. Yes. Of that traffic light on Vernal.

01:14:34.501 --> 01:14:43.451
- If you're on Vernal, you can cross over the light. There's a light that goes both ways, but there's

01:14:43.451 --> 01:14:46.046
- nothing except a dirt patch.

01:14:46.658 --> 01:14:58.225
- I just had a question. What's a delineator? So in this case, the delineators west side of the bridge

01:14:58.225 --> 01:15:11.166
- and additional sidewalk sections, delineators typically are either railings or curbs or something, some physical

01:15:11.586 --> 01:15:25.586
- Sure, to separate. Yeah, it's a separation. And I wondered if all the overruns are going to pay those

01:15:25.586 --> 01:15:34.782
- tickets. We're losing our crowd. We're logging off left and right.

01:15:35.554 --> 01:15:44.371
- All those in favor of approving change or number six with end up for renal pike sunrise greetings extension

01:15:44.371 --> 01:15:52.616
- signify by saying aye. I motion carries zero all day three zero all day. Okay. Now that I've learned

01:15:52.616 --> 01:16:00.779
- to count. She is always now that I've learned to count. I do want to make a motion to appoint Becky

01:16:00.779 --> 01:16:04.126
- Hill to the Monroe County Library Board.

01:16:04.354 --> 01:16:11.920
- I second that motion. Her term, I think is completing one. She's aware it might not be a full four years,

01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:19.271
- but I think it's actually, I think I have to look at it. Yeah, we'll figure it out. But it was a real,

01:16:19.271 --> 01:16:26.480
- really great to talk to her and learned a lot. And she brings a lot of experience with her, which is

01:16:26.480 --> 01:16:34.046
- really great. So all those in favor of appointing Becky Hill to the library board, signify by saying aye.

01:16:34.146 --> 01:16:43.147
- I motion carries two zero. Um, so we've got a cray cray schedule for June. Um, first of all, um, Monero

01:16:43.147 --> 01:16:52.321
- County government will be closed on June 19th for Juneteenth. Um, and, um, our next meetings are a little

01:16:52.321 --> 01:17:01.063
- going to be a little strange, um, but in a good fun way and a good summertime kind of way. Um, so we

01:17:01.063 --> 01:17:03.486
- will only be hearing claims

01:17:04.674 --> 01:17:16.715
- We are not meeting next week at all, June 11th. We will be hearing claims only on June 18th, claims

01:17:16.715 --> 01:17:29.237
- and payroll by then, yeah. And June 25th will be claims only meeting. And then we're going to come back

01:17:29.237 --> 01:17:34.174
- to have our regular meeting on July 2nd.

01:17:35.586 --> 01:17:43.115
- those will be ratified. Yes, we'll have to ratify everything. So I appreciate everybody's willingness

01:17:43.115 --> 01:17:50.717
- to be flexible. We have, you know, the forum is difficult for us, and we're doing the best we can, but

01:17:50.717 --> 01:17:58.541
- we're also mindful of our need to take a vacation before we say something we shouldn't. Well, I'm talking

01:17:58.541 --> 01:18:05.406
- about myself again, but sorry anyway. I say lots of things I shouldn't. Apparently I do too.

01:18:05.570 --> 01:18:16.840
- So we are going to have an odd June schedule, but we'll figure it out. And if any department heads have

01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:27.676
- any questions, please contact Angie because she can manage it so well and keep us all in stride and

01:18:27.676 --> 01:18:35.262
- keep us all on point where we need to be in order to get things done.

01:18:36.290 --> 01:18:43.922
- your cockerel is also able to provide great legal advice about how the heck are we going to prove that?

01:18:43.922 --> 01:18:51.701
- Yes. So we'll figure it out. But if you have an issue, please contact Angie or Jeff. Don't ask me because

01:18:51.701 --> 01:18:59.113
- I do not know. And I will say something that probably isn't true. So we do remind folks that even if

01:18:59.113 --> 01:19:02.782
- we're not having our regular meetings, we do have

01:19:03.042 --> 01:19:11.326
- virtual office hours on teams each month for six hours. Go to the calendar at im.gov-counties slash

01:19:11.326 --> 01:19:20.274
- county slash Monroe slash and look at the calendar for dates and times. We are still accepting applications

01:19:20.274 --> 01:19:28.724
- for all boards and commissions. We still have some openings. So please go to our website and find out

01:19:28.724 --> 01:19:32.286
- more information, fill out an application.

01:19:32.450 --> 01:19:39.622
- We also, well, it's too late for today. There's going to be another blood drive in July. I don't have

01:19:39.622 --> 01:19:46.794
- the date here, but it'll be in conjunction with Ivy Tech. Thanks, Ivy Tech. But go to redcross.org to

01:19:46.794 --> 01:19:53.966
- make an appointment. They would appreciate it, although if you don't make an appointment, you will go

01:19:53.966 --> 01:20:01.982
- in. We also encourage folks to sign up for the alert notification system, the resident alert notification system.

01:20:02.114 --> 01:20:11.158
- And that sign up again is on our main website. Did you have anything you wanted to add at this point?

01:20:11.158 --> 01:20:20.379
- No, I would just say again, I'd emphasize your severe weather that I cannot overstate that because that

01:20:20.379 --> 01:20:24.990
- cannot it can come up very suddenly and just again,

01:20:26.754 --> 01:20:32.284
- you know, congratulations to Bloomington South and Bloomington North graduates this past week.

01:20:32.284 --> 01:20:38.163
- There you go. So we have a bunch of brilliant people going out there in our world, and they're going

01:20:38.163 --> 01:20:44.042
- to help make the world an even better place. And yeah. Awesome. It's awesome. Not there in Edgewood.

01:20:44.042 --> 01:20:50.038
- I know that we have. Did Edgewood graduate this past weekend as well? Yeah. I believe so. Oh, awesome.

01:20:50.038 --> 01:20:54.462
- OK. For some reason, I thought they graduated a week earlier, a week later.

01:20:57.154 --> 01:21:03.462
- I think their ceremony is a week before, but I think their school dates are probably about the same.

01:21:03.462 --> 01:21:09.708
- Okay, well then, absolutely. Congratulations, Edgewood is out. We have an Edgewood graduate. And to

01:21:09.708 --> 01:21:16.141
- all the private school graduates around here as well. All of those people leaving secondary education.

01:21:16.141 --> 01:21:22.449
- Yeah, moving on to something great. And thanks to those people who will be getting started on their,

01:21:22.449 --> 01:21:23.198
- I know most

01:21:23.522 --> 01:21:31.009
- if they're not getting started on life and they're, you know, they've got that one last hiatus of spring,

01:21:31.009 --> 01:21:38.567
- there are some who are going into the military and thank you there. And so, you know, just congratulations

01:21:38.567 --> 01:21:46.055
- and to all and be safe. Yeah. And I just want to remind folks that this weekend is the Bloomington Garden

01:21:46.055 --> 01:21:47.326
- Club garden walk.

01:21:47.522 --> 01:21:56.830
- And the ticket price is $10. You can go to BloomingtonGardenClub.org. There's four hours of viewing

01:21:56.830 --> 01:22:06.882
- time on Saturday and four hours on Sunday. And if you go to the New Hope Shelter, I will be there. Hosting,

01:22:06.882 --> 01:22:16.190
- co-hosting, I should say. So really, really spectacular gardens this year. Wow. So 10 bucks, cheap.

01:22:16.994 --> 01:22:31.436
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

01:22:31.436 --> 01:22:37.854
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
