WEBVTT 00:00:00.162 --> 00:00:06.929 - It is Thursday, October 22nd, 2026, and I'd like to call to order this meeting at the Monroe County 00:00:06.929 --> 00:00:13.695 - Board of Commissioners. I will know for the record that Commissioner Madura and myself are here and 00:00:13.695 --> 00:00:20.529 - present in the NatU Hill Room. We'll begin with our public statement. We, the Monroe County Board of 00:00:20.529 --> 00:00:27.566 - Commissioners, renew our commitment to welcome and protect the rights of all people, regardless of age, 00:00:27.566 --> 00:00:28.446 - race, color, 00:00:28.642 --> 00:00:40.989 - the right of every person to live peacefully and without fear. And we will fight and resist at every 00:00:40.989 --> 00:00:54.192 - step discrimination and harmful policies, whatever their source. We believe in diversity, equity, inclusion 00:00:54.192 --> 00:00:57.982 - and belonging, and we stand in 00:00:58.242 --> 00:01:09.994 - And with that, we will move on to our department updates. We'll start with the health department, please. 00:01:09.994 --> 00:01:21.080 - Good morning, commissioners. Morning. And I wanted to thank the commissioners publicly for the ARPA 00:01:21.080 --> 00:01:25.182 - funds that we had that allowed us to 00:01:25.666 --> 00:01:35.443 - as a public health department to partner with homeowners and with the contractors to complete 35 septic 00:01:35.443 --> 00:01:45.031 - updates in our community. It's significant and it is a protection for all of us. In addition, I would 00:01:45.031 --> 00:01:54.526 - once again invite everyone to please go and get yourselves vaccinated. There is a lot of common cold 00:01:55.138 --> 00:02:03.240 - currently, and we don't have, I wish we had a vaccine against that, but no, we have a lot of children 00:02:03.240 --> 00:02:11.184 - passing around a lot of colds to a lot of families who are passing it on to all of us. In addition, 00:02:11.184 --> 00:02:18.174 - flu is certainly on the uprise, and as I may have mentioned before, it is currently way 00:02:18.274 --> 00:02:26.528 - beyond what we expected in the past for this time of year. So please go get yourselves vaccinated. COVID 00:02:26.528 --> 00:02:34.467 - is not really rearing its head yet, but we do expect it to find its way up from South America and to 00:02:34.467 --> 00:02:42.563 - bring us a new version. And we don't know quite what that will mean. So that's also important. We know 00:02:42.563 --> 00:02:47.358 - that as of January 1st, there are going to be new food truck 00:02:47.778 --> 00:02:56.610 - regulations in this state given to us by the legislators, but of course not ironed out. So public health 00:02:56.610 --> 00:03:05.106 - departments across the state have been trying to iron out what that's going to mean and particularly 00:03:05.106 --> 00:03:13.517 - what it's going to mean to our public because there aren't very clear guidelines. It's simply about 00:03:13.517 --> 00:03:16.798 - making sure that all of the trucks are 00:03:17.026 --> 00:03:24.914 - licensed but they're licensed once no matter where they are serving. We don't know what it's going to 00:03:24.914 --> 00:03:32.724 - be like for our county or any other county to try and keep track of all of it and what it's going to 00:03:32.724 --> 00:03:40.766 - mean in terms of finances because regulating that number of trucks coming into our community when we're 00:03:40.766 --> 00:03:45.406 - not getting anything in return is going to make things more 00:03:46.178 --> 00:03:56.674 - I see in the long run. And last, our DIS folks have evening hours now with open doors so that anyone 00:03:56.674 --> 00:04:07.378 - with sexually transmitted diseases of whatever kind can be seen even in those what might be considered 00:04:07.378 --> 00:04:13.406 - off hours. So if you have questions about HIV, hepatitis, 00:04:13.506 --> 00:04:20.427 - or any other sexually transmitted diseases, please get yourselves checked. That's it. Thank you so much. 00:04:20.427 --> 00:04:27.216 - Great. Thank you so much. You have any questions? No, I'm just horrified. A new strain of COVID coming 00:04:27.216 --> 00:04:33.873 - from South America. Yeah. And thank you for the food truck regulation updates. I had not known about 00:04:33.873 --> 00:04:40.926 - that at all. You're most welcome. Thank you all. Thank you. OK. Any other department updates for us today? 00:04:42.306 --> 00:04:50.363 - public comment. Please raise your hand on teams or come up to the podium. Seeing none. We'll move on 00:04:50.363 --> 00:04:58.580 - to the next item, which is public comment. This is time to hear from the public for items that are not 00:04:58.580 --> 00:05:06.398 - on the agenda. We ask each speaker to limit their time to three minutes. Each and to provide your 00:05:06.498 --> 00:05:12.315 - It looks like we have one in the NatU Hill Room, but if anyone online wishes to participate in public 00:05:12.315 --> 00:05:18.531 - comment, please raise your hand and we will call on you. Good morning, Mr. M.G. Good morning, commissioners. 00:05:18.531 --> 00:05:24.348 - This is Christopher M.G. And on behalf of the Greater Bloomington Chamber of Commerce, I want to just 00:05:24.348 --> 00:05:30.051 - address some of the challenges that our current health department is facing. This is personal to me 00:05:30.051 --> 00:05:33.758 - as well. I work in the community, raise my family here, and I've 00:05:34.210 --> 00:05:39.960 - to make Monroe County a little bit better place to live. So, you know, we take pride in our education, 00:05:39.960 --> 00:05:45.655 - our innovation, public services, and we look out for one another. We should probably expect more from 00:05:45.655 --> 00:05:51.516 - our health department, not because of politics, but because of who we are in this community. The Chamber 00:05:51.516 --> 00:05:57.323 - isn't here to take sides on personnel matters. We believe government should be measured by the services 00:05:57.323 --> 00:06:02.905 - it delivers and the results it achieves. So consider what's happened in that department, our public 00:06:02.905 --> 00:06:03.966 - health department, 00:06:04.290 --> 00:06:11.112 - planning clinic closed, costing us federal funding. We've had to seek assistance from another county 00:06:11.112 --> 00:06:18.204 - to provide vaccinations. Other health public programs have been paused while staffing shortage of strain 00:06:18.204 --> 00:06:25.027 - communicable disease investigations. And these are essential services our residents depend on. So we 00:06:25.027 --> 00:06:31.646 - ask county leadership, the Board of Health, what are we delivering today and what can we restore? 00:06:32.354 --> 00:06:39.113 - Are we effectively using the funding, the staff, our facilities available to us? Are we attracting and 00:06:39.113 --> 00:06:45.805 - retaining qualified professionals? What's the plan and how can we measure progress? You know, many of 00:06:45.805 --> 00:06:52.367 - us remember the health department under Penny Caudill's leadership. We know what this department is 00:06:52.367 --> 00:06:59.126 - capable of. We're not asking for a new standard. We're asking for the county to restore a standard our 00:06:59.126 --> 00:07:00.766 - community once expected. 00:07:01.506 --> 00:07:07.880 - We have the talent, we have the resources and the commitment to make the Health Department a model of 00:07:07.880 --> 00:07:14.441 - effective local government again. The Chamber wants results and we're ready to be part of that solution. 00:07:14.441 --> 00:07:20.815 - I thank you. Thank you so much. Anyone else have any public comments to offer on Teams? You can raise 00:07:20.815 --> 00:07:21.502 - your hand. 00:07:31.042 --> 00:07:39.995 - Okay. Seeing none. Let me get back to my agenda. We will move on to our next item, please, for the minutes. 00:07:39.995 --> 00:07:48.865 - Yes, I would like to move to approve the minutes for October 8th, 2026. Second. Any comments, corrections, 00:07:48.865 --> 00:07:57.403 - or edits? I have none. All right. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the minutes for October 00:07:57.403 --> 00:08:00.222 - 8th, 2026, signify by saying aye. 00:08:00.450 --> 00:08:08.590 - motion carries two zero uh next item please yes i'd like to move to approve the claims docket for accounts 00:08:08.590 --> 00:08:16.198 - payable for october 22nd 2026 and for payroll for october 16th 2026 second and we have miss guyardo 00:08:16.198 --> 00:08:23.881 - joining us good morning good morning the accounts payable claims docker for october 22nd 2026 totals 00:08:23.881 --> 00:08:28.446 - 12 million 363 thousand 26 doubt 26 dollars and 29 cents or 00:08:28.866 --> 00:08:41.313 - $1,596. I'm sorry. This includes all emergency claims and adjustments. The payroll docket for October 00:08:41.313 --> 00:08:54.005 - 16th, 2026 includes $1,597,208.51 indirect costs, and the remaining $671,860.17 were for indirect costs 00:08:54.005 --> 00:08:58.398 - for a grand total of $2,269,068.68. 00:08:59.522 --> 00:09:07.424 - All right. Thank you so much. Comments, questions? No. All right. I don't have any either. Let's see 00:09:07.424 --> 00:09:15.248 - if there's any public comment on this item. You can raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium. 00:09:15.248 --> 00:09:23.229 - See none. All those in favor of approving the claim stock and accounts payable October 22nd, 2026 and 00:09:23.229 --> 00:09:27.454 - payroll for October 16th, 2026 signify by saying aye. 00:09:28.098 --> 00:09:39.500 - I motion carries to zero. We did receive a report from the Treasurer's Office and that report is dated 00:09:39.500 --> 00:09:50.570 - September 2026. For our new business, TSD, I'd like to be made a presenter and I'd like to share my 00:09:50.570 --> 00:09:56.990 - screen. Please. We have Dr. Margaret Clements joining us. 00:09:57.314 --> 00:10:09.838 - to provide information on a housing data study that she has completed. And hopefully here I will be 00:10:09.838 --> 00:10:16.350 - able to share my screen. If you give me one moment. 00:10:57.826 --> 00:11:05.489 - we go? Well, first of all, I'd like to thank you for having me here today to share with you something 00:11:05.489 --> 00:11:13.227 - that's been an ongoing concern of mine since I joined the Plan Commission in 2018, and that is to know 00:11:13.227 --> 00:11:19.838 - exactly where we stand from a data perspective, a reliable, replicable data perspective 00:11:19.906 --> 00:11:26.925 - on housing inventory in Bloomington, Ellitsville, and Monroe County. And as I look around the room this 00:11:26.925 --> 00:11:33.742 - morning, I see so many people who are engaged in our community, who are civic leaders, and I want to 00:11:33.742 --> 00:11:40.491 - thank you all for your hard and consistent work, because we all are the people who bring the vision 00:11:40.491 --> 00:11:47.577 - and the hopes of our community members and our taxpayers to fruition. So thank you all for your service, 00:11:47.577 --> 00:11:49.872 - and thank you for your dedication 00:11:49.872 --> 00:11:59.523 - to the community. So with that being said, when I joined the Plan Commission, if you move to the next 00:11:59.523 --> 00:12:09.553 - slide, in 2018, I have served several roles as in the Plan Commission and on the Board of Zoning Appeals, 00:12:09.553 --> 00:12:19.678 - various times and many times serving as president. And in order to do my work, I was surprised to find out 00:12:19.778 --> 00:12:28.123 - that there was no consistent database against which to measure claims made by various constituencies 00:12:28.123 --> 00:12:36.469 - about our housing need. So in about 2019, I created an inventory of all the projects that were being 00:12:36.469 --> 00:12:39.774 - built and that were under construction. 00:12:39.874 --> 00:12:48.254 - that had been approved by the planned commissions of the various constituencies like the city of Bloomington, 00:12:48.254 --> 00:12:56.100 - Monroe County, and the town of Ellitsville, and I created that inventory so that we could test claims, 00:12:56.100 --> 00:13:03.794 - claims like those made by the city of Bloomington. If you could move to the next slide. And the city 00:13:03.794 --> 00:13:08.670 - of Bloomington, it turns out, is kind of a consistent source of 00:13:08.994 --> 00:13:17.674 - that the area needed 12,225 units by the year 2040. And that claim was replicated and cited in various 00:13:17.674 --> 00:13:26.438 - other studies that have been repeated on several occasions through the Bloomington Economic Development 00:13:26.438 --> 00:13:35.455 - Corporation, through the Regional Opportunities Initiative, and also through the Indiana Business Research 00:13:35.455 --> 00:13:38.910 - Development Center. So that 12,225 units 00:13:39.010 --> 00:14:00.677 - that we may agree with, may have changed, or we may disagree with. So there are conflicting conclusions 00:14:00.677 --> 00:14:05.886 - about our housing needs. 00:14:05.986 --> 00:14:13.316 - believe that we have overbuilt. And most of the studies have been retrospective. There's no shared system 00:14:13.316 --> 00:14:20.370 - between the Monroe County Building Department, the Monroe County Planning Department, and the town of 00:14:20.370 --> 00:14:27.769 - Ellitsville. But it should be noted that the Monroe County Building Department is the permitting authority 00:14:27.769 --> 00:14:32.126 - for the city of Bloomington and for the unincorporated area of 00:14:32.226 --> 00:14:40.902 - Monroe County. So one of the goals of my report was to describe the housing landscape between 2016. 00:14:40.902 --> 00:14:43.678 - You can move the slide to 2020. 00:14:43.906 --> 00:14:51.716 - six and to integrate what's under construction or planned and not just what is built and to standardize 00:14:51.716 --> 00:14:59.675 - data definitions across the jurisdictions and to inform planning zoning and density decisions with shared 00:14:59.675 --> 00:15:07.710 - facts. So the primary sources for this inventory were the permitting data and especially occupancy permits 00:15:08.034 --> 00:15:16.139 - from the Monroe County Building Department. And where there were conflicts in reports, there was aerial 00:15:16.139 --> 00:15:24.478 - imagery and address databases that were cross-checked because a large apartment complex, like for example, 00:15:24.478 --> 00:15:32.505 - at Atlas, can undergo many different changes in name, many different changes in address as the streets 00:15:32.505 --> 00:15:37.726 - and the roads are developed and their plans itself may change. So, 00:15:37.922 --> 00:15:47.282 - Every single multifamily housing unit was analyzed for how many actual units that they built. And this 00:15:47.282 --> 00:15:56.642 - is not a per bedroom count because that is not a standardized unit of measure that's comparable across 00:15:56.642 --> 00:16:06.910 - the jurisdictions or even wider beyond Bloomington. One thing that we have to consider with any database is that 00:16:07.170 --> 00:16:14.272 - We basically have a second population layered on the residential population and that is the student 00:16:14.272 --> 00:16:21.446 - population and at this moment the student population in the city city of bloomington exceeds that of 00:16:21.446 --> 00:16:28.761 - the residential population in the city of bloomington And we are one of the largest if not the largest 00:16:28.761 --> 00:16:30.750 - of cities in our class with 00:16:30.850 --> 00:16:39.600 - student population relative to resident population. And why does this matter? It matters because we 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:48.350 - are under the possibility that we're going to be converting to an income tax-based system, and that 00:16:48.350 --> 00:16:55.262 - population, by definition, earns very little income. So the average median age 00:16:55.490 --> 00:17:05.714 - in Bloomington is 24.9 nationwide, it's like 34 years old. So our population in the city of Bloomington 00:17:05.714 --> 00:17:16.233 - replicates and validates that asserted fact that the student population exceeds the residential population 00:17:16.233 --> 00:17:25.278 - in the city of Bloomington. So if we, I think we move to the next slide. Here in this room, 00:17:25.666 --> 00:17:33.572 - We have so many good people and yet among us we have kind of a divided vision for what our community 00:17:33.572 --> 00:17:41.948 - should become. There are those especially in the city who have argued and pursued a path of higher density 00:17:41.948 --> 00:17:49.150 - in almost all cases across the city of Bloomington and wish to extend that into the county. 00:17:49.442 --> 00:17:58.105 - unincorporated area of Monroe County has asserted their preference for remaining rural and to not join 00:17:58.105 --> 00:18:06.599 - the city of Bloomington. And in fact, the annexation response showed that a super majority of people 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:15.262 - were opposed to joining the city of Bloomington. And while five of those annexation areas remain under 00:18:15.262 --> 00:18:18.878 - review by the Supreme Court, by and large, 00:18:20.130 --> 00:18:27.579 - the population has stated their wish that they would like to remain unincorporated from the city of 00:18:27.579 --> 00:18:35.103 - Bloomington. The town of Ellitsville is a bedroom community, as you know, but what I find surprising 00:18:35.103 --> 00:18:42.776 - is that 88% of the properties are owner occupied. And so a lot of people move to Ellitsville to pursue 00:18:42.776 --> 00:18:49.630 - a lifestyle that they're finding increasingly difficult to find in the city of Bloomington. 00:18:49.794 --> 00:18:59.863 - So if we turn to the next slide, you know, remember at the beginning of this, I said that the city of 00:18:59.863 --> 00:19:07.070 - Bloomington had asserted that 12,225 units were needed by the year 2040. 00:19:07.170 --> 00:19:15.575 - between 2016 and 2026, 11,227 units had already been built. Now that's an under count. There's another 00:19:15.575 --> 00:19:23.980 - 500 unit apartment building I didn't include in this study because I wasn't sure exactly what date the 00:19:23.980 --> 00:19:32.385 - occupancy permit was issued and subsequently I found that it would be included in this date range. And 00:19:32.385 --> 00:19:37.118 - there's also the town of Ellitsville information that we, 00:19:37.346 --> 00:19:47.703 - that we do not have. So I think we're in a position where we have exceeded what has been estimated we 00:19:47.703 --> 00:19:56.030 - need for a good long time. Now, what I would like to move on to in the next slide 00:19:56.290 --> 00:20:06.075 - is that there's a lot in the pipeline. We have 2,153 units under construction. They'll probably go online 00:20:06.075 --> 00:20:15.675 - in 2026 and 2027. We have 5,301 units that have been approved but not built. And we have 915 units that 00:20:15.675 --> 00:20:23.614 - are discussed under review, under deliberation, under processes of possible approval. 00:20:23.906 --> 00:20:33.355 - and have been the subject of newspaper articles. So that's a total of 19,596 units that are completed 00:20:33.355 --> 00:20:43.452 - underway or in the pipeline since 2016. More than four times the housing activity, most of the retrospective 00:20:43.452 --> 00:20:53.086 - reports from the City of Bloomington, the Regional Opportunities Initiative had asserted. So, you know, 00:20:53.474 --> 00:21:00.999 - This basically says that we have met what we asserted that we needed. I think the problem that we face 00:21:00.999 --> 00:21:08.524 - as a community, which is on the next slide, is that we still have not, despite all of this expense and 00:21:08.524 --> 00:21:15.830 - despite all of this construction, despite all of this change in our community's landscape, we don't 00:21:15.830 --> 00:21:20.798 - have a shared vision. It doesn't resolve what kind of jobs we have, 00:21:21.090 --> 00:21:28.110 - how many jobs are coming online. Before I came here today, I looked at the U.S. Department of Labor 00:21:28.110 --> 00:21:35.411 - Statistics, and I'm shocked, and I can't believe my eyes, but they said we lost 4,100 jobs in September 00:21:35.411 --> 00:21:42.571 - 2026. We know we're losing jobs. We see it in the newspaper article 400 here, 800 there, 200 in other 00:21:42.571 --> 00:21:49.310 - place. The Monroe County School Corporation is laying off teachers, and yet the U.S. Department 00:21:49.602 --> 00:21:58.572 - of labor statistics says we lost 4,100 jobs in September 2026. So I think it's really imperative that 00:21:58.572 --> 00:22:07.454 - we come together as a community, that we work together to make Bloomington the place that we hope it 00:22:07.454 --> 00:22:16.424 - can be, that we can help to be a part in realizing the aspirations of our community members, and that 00:22:16.424 --> 00:22:18.974 - we can help them live better 00:22:19.234 --> 00:22:29.030 - lives. But back to the data inventory, this data does not resolve whether or not we have jobs, whether 00:22:29.030 --> 00:22:38.825 - or not we have infrastructure, if we don't know the prices of the units and we can't really know that, 00:22:38.825 --> 00:22:46.814 - we can't really dictate affordability, and we don't necessarily have information on 00:22:47.106 --> 00:22:55.681 - exactly how many units of what type do we need. Student housing is governed by Indiana University. If 00:22:55.681 --> 00:23:04.845 - it's enrollment restricted, it is governed by Indiana University and it is subject to the Board of Trustees. 00:23:04.845 --> 00:23:13.588 - But the student commercial apartment complexes are not. So we have to just understand what we're doing, 00:23:13.588 --> 00:23:16.446 - where we're going, and what shape 00:23:16.578 --> 00:23:23.917 - we want our community to be and with our planning departments and our building departments and people 00:23:23.917 --> 00:23:31.328 - like us in this room. We have to sit down and envision how to make our community better so that we can 00:23:31.328 --> 00:23:33.630 - all get on that same page. Now, 00:23:33.730 --> 00:23:40.963 - I don't really want to have to do this housing inventory again. So I have turned it over to the planning 00:23:40.963 --> 00:23:48.059 - department and I've created a prototype of what that data inventory should look like and how it should 00:23:48.059 --> 00:23:55.085 - be maintained and how it should be updated. So I recommend that we formalize data sharing between the 00:23:55.085 --> 00:24:02.112 - Monroe County Building Department, the Monroe County Planning Department, and the town of Ellitsville 00:24:02.112 --> 00:24:03.696 - that we set a standard 00:24:03.696 --> 00:24:12.801 - Update cycle. I recommend quarterly that we track absorption. We try to figure out how many units are 00:24:12.801 --> 00:24:17.086 - vacant and also how many how long a house is on 00:24:17.186 --> 00:24:24.921 - For sale on the market, you know because those figures are down as well and We need to close that Ellisville 00:24:24.921 --> 00:24:32.230 - gap in data sharing and if we if possible we should add price size and location to this data inventory 00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:39.965 - and We've already resolved the last item and that is to publish the data set because the Planning Department 00:24:39.965 --> 00:24:40.958 - has published 00:24:41.090 --> 00:24:48.417 - that and it's accessible for people, but it's a clean data set. Duplicates have been removed and they've 00:24:48.417 --> 00:24:55.884 - been validated. So with that, I'd just like to thank you. I'd like to thank everyone and I'd like everyone 00:24:55.884 --> 00:25:02.862 - to try to keep up the good work and try to come together a little bit more. So thank you. Thank you 00:25:02.862 --> 00:25:05.374 - so much. We really appreciate that. 00:25:05.890 --> 00:25:19.044 - questions. Let's see. We might need you back up if there are questions. Um, yep. Sorry. Do you have 00:25:19.044 --> 00:25:32.198 - any questions? Um. No. Um and I just had a question like what action are we taking today? Um we can 00:25:32.198 --> 00:25:35.486 - accept the report. Which 00:25:35.618 --> 00:25:44.803 - housing report presented today. Can we defer that until after the meeting tonight? I mean, we could, 00:25:44.803 --> 00:25:54.442 - but it doesn't change anything. The meeting tonight is about the CDO and it's the state mandated meeting, 00:25:54.442 --> 00:26:02.718 - which I'm going to talk about it at the end here. So it's not really connected except that 00:26:03.106 --> 00:26:11.375 - this report is part of it already. It's already in the packet. So whether we accept it today or next 00:26:11.375 --> 00:26:20.299 - week won't change that. So it's up to you. I have, I guess I have one question. What data do you contemplate 00:26:20.299 --> 00:26:28.568 - including in the future? Well, it would be, so for a building that is constructed, I recommend going 00:26:28.568 --> 00:26:30.942 - off the building departments 00:26:31.074 --> 00:26:38.412 - occupancy permit data. They issue permits and then they finalize it with an occupancy permit. So when 00:26:38.412 --> 00:26:45.606 - something is under construction, it would not have an occupancy permit. But when it goes online, it 00:26:45.606 --> 00:26:52.801 - has an occupancy permit. So what is built and ready for occupancy is in what is reported separately 00:26:52.801 --> 00:26:56.254 - from that that is currently under construction. 00:26:56.386 --> 00:27:04.818 - Now, as far as what has been approved, we go off of commissioner minutes, and we go off of plan commission 00:27:04.818 --> 00:27:13.092 - minutes, and we go off of city council minutes. Now, as far as what is deliberated and discussed, that's 00:27:13.092 --> 00:27:21.288 - just kind of out there, and it can change. For example, in my report, there are 11 units at North Dunn, 00:27:21.288 --> 00:27:26.174 - across from the IU football stadium, and a single family home 00:27:26.274 --> 00:27:35.275 - was going to be converted into 11 separate lots or separate units, and somebody purchased that home. 00:27:35.275 --> 00:27:44.275 - So it will remain a single-family home. So this is an interactive data set with incoming information 00:27:44.275 --> 00:27:54.078 - all the time, and that's why it's important to maintain it quarterly. So let's just say that 4,250 unit units 00:27:55.426 --> 00:28:03.475 - development at the summit district off of Weimar Road that that's the old Sudbury farm that if those 00:28:03.475 --> 00:28:11.683 - plans change we would update this record but right now it's planned in four phases and the first phase 00:28:11.683 --> 00:28:19.891 - is 1,000 units and that's already reflected in this report of what is about to be built and then there 00:28:19.891 --> 00:28:25.310 - are PUDs that are scattered across the county and we have sometimes 00:28:25.986 --> 00:28:32.331 - This is really surprising to me that here we are in the 21st century. You know, we didn't know that 00:28:32.331 --> 00:28:38.865 - these PUDs were laying out there and suddenly you've got a big huge development that comes online that 00:28:38.865 --> 00:28:45.654 - in somebody's backyard and it causes a lot of consternation. So, you know, I think that that's a different 00:28:45.654 --> 00:28:52.062 - question that needs to be reviewed. But we should at least know about them so that we don't consider 00:28:52.994 --> 00:28:58.762 - I don't know, we just better know about them if we're gonna do our job as planners, you know, 00:28:58.762 --> 00:29:05.083 - that's all. So I put them in there, they're approved BUDs, they haven't expired. There are others that 00:29:05.083 --> 00:29:11.281 - are not expired but that were not included in this report because there was a notation that they may 00:29:11.281 --> 00:29:17.418 - expire. So I don't know. So I don't know if that answers your question or not. Yeah, I think, thank 00:29:17.418 --> 00:29:19.934 - you so much. Sure, thank you. Thank you. 00:29:24.642 --> 00:29:32.065 - I think that I would say, from my perspective, it's premature to adopt this report. I think need is 00:29:32.065 --> 00:29:39.933 - measured by prices, vacancy, cost burden, overcrowding, and community. I think the report doesn't analyze 00:29:39.933 --> 00:29:47.356 - these factors. I think it concedes it doesn't analyze affordability, waging, or housing type, which 00:29:47.356 --> 00:29:50.622 - are the core questions in shortage studies. 00:29:50.722 --> 00:29:56.803 - I think it does count units built and compares them with older projects. And I think so it counts some 00:29:56.803 --> 00:30:02.766 - things that's offered as a correction to studies that say that Monroe County needs more housing, but 00:30:02.766 --> 00:30:08.847 - to succeed in that objective, it would have to actually show that housing demand is satisfied. And I'm 00:30:08.847 --> 00:30:15.046 - not sure that it shows that. To show that, it would have to incorporate more data about the demand side, 00:30:15.046 --> 00:30:16.286 - like MLS, et cetera. 00:30:16.482 --> 00:30:25.460 - question about when that sort of data could be incorporated. I would like to note that any housing that 00:30:25.460 --> 00:30:34.437 - is restricted by income or age or student enrollment is annotated. Now, the state legislature has rules 00:30:34.437 --> 00:30:43.587 - against us dictating prices, and I think that the job would be impossible to do that, to annotate prices, 00:30:43.587 --> 00:30:45.918 - because they're individual 00:30:46.050 --> 00:30:56.300 - It almost would be like anti-monopoly. It would be monopolistic sharing of price fixing that I don't 00:30:56.300 --> 00:31:06.855 - necessarily want to get involved with that. So I think that if it's possible in the future, that Monroe 00:31:06.855 --> 00:31:14.974 - County Apartment Association and the, I mean, I'm hearing different things from 00:31:15.362 --> 00:31:24.077 - renters across the community, for example, that even though they may have been given an incentive to 00:31:24.077 --> 00:31:32.791 - sign, they're being charged fees for renewal and the fee structures are getting pretty creative. So, 00:31:32.791 --> 00:31:41.419 - you know, there are a lot of questions on the table as far as prices are concerned and I think that 00:31:41.419 --> 00:31:44.094 - that's a very, that would be a 00:31:45.378 --> 00:31:54.979 - maybe a year or two worth of work to do. So, yeah. I think one of the things to keep in mind is that 00:31:54.979 --> 00:32:04.485 - this is just a count of units. That's all it says it is, and that's all it does. I do think that it 00:32:04.485 --> 00:32:14.846 - raises questions, as you note and as you've noted, Dr. Clements, about the importance of understanding wages 00:32:15.010 --> 00:32:24.285 - the job market, which seems to really be softening quite a bit locally for a number of reasons. And 00:32:24.285 --> 00:32:33.838 - to that alone, comparing those two things alone would be a big help. The issue that we continue to run 00:32:33.838 --> 00:32:44.318 - across is we have developers who come with petitions, as you know, before the Planning Commission, and they say, 00:32:44.674 --> 00:32:53.574 - you know, we don't have enough of this kind of housing. And now we can say, well, we have this many 00:32:53.574 --> 00:33:02.475 - units and, you know, there's 40 more coming online next year that are already planned and approved. 00:33:02.475 --> 00:33:09.150 - And so we can do the counts. And that's all we've needed, really, I think. 00:33:09.506 --> 00:33:18.101 - the economic development side in the community needs to really focus on these other elements. And there 00:33:18.101 --> 00:33:26.366 - are a lot of people who will come to me and say, I cannot believe how many student apartments there 00:33:26.366 --> 00:33:34.713 - are around town. I know. But we don't control that. That's the city. And the city even has a student 00:33:34.713 --> 00:33:35.870 - housing zone. 00:33:36.194 --> 00:33:44.900 - but they can't get the numbers. They cannot get the numbers in terms of vacancies. It's not something 00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:53.521 - you can get. You cannot get vacancy numbers because that impacts their ability to market. We can get 00:33:53.521 --> 00:34:01.118 - rental rates, but it's very gray because of those fees and the other things that may get 00:34:01.282 --> 00:34:09.309 - added on that we're not even going to be able to start to calculate. So I think that the economic development 00:34:09.309 --> 00:34:16.971 - side in our community should do what they can to figure out the vacancy rate in those student apartments 00:34:16.971 --> 00:34:24.269 - because it seems like if we have a shortage of housing, the question is what kind of housing are we 00:34:24.269 --> 00:34:28.574 - short on and what do people want? And I think this prompts 00:34:29.122 --> 00:34:37.675 - some sort of a really good community survey in the near future about that, about housing specifically 00:34:37.675 --> 00:34:46.395 - and desires for different types of housing. But all this is is account and we've not had this. So thank 00:34:46.395 --> 00:34:54.948 - you for providing this work. Yes, thank you. You're welcome. And I would just like to state that when 00:34:54.948 --> 00:34:58.302 - many of these student apartment complex 00:34:58.466 --> 00:35:08.798 - came online, they were, when they came before the plan commission of the city, they were touted as workforce 00:35:08.798 --> 00:35:18.277 - housing and affordable housing. So it's just interesting how things change. And the good news is we 00:35:18.277 --> 00:35:23.870 - have an 18% increase in enrollment, that's good. So, yeah. 00:35:25.154 --> 00:35:32.066 - Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Um, yeah. And, and I would, and I would note as well that, um, 00:35:32.066 --> 00:35:38.843 - when developers come to the planning commission, they often will say things like, well, we can build 00:35:38.843 --> 00:35:45.755 - houses and they'll be starting point 250,000. Well, that sounds good because that's a good price range 00:35:45.755 --> 00:35:52.734 - for people who are just entering the housing market. But when they're built, we find that they're often 00:35:53.506 --> 00:36:01.264 - that they're going to be able to advertise that a much higher price. Um and there's nothing we can do 00:36:01.264 --> 00:36:08.945 - about that. Absolutely nothing. We can't hold them to a certain price point. And the other thing is, 00:36:08.945 --> 00:36:16.703 - is it costs a certain amount to build a house? It anything a house, an apartment building anything it 00:36:16.703 --> 00:36:21.342 - costs a certain amount of money in terms of land, utilities, 00:36:21.698 --> 00:36:31.025 - cheaper housing is possible, although I still hope that we can have a tiny home community here somewhere, 00:36:31.025 --> 00:36:40.439 - but that we need to be more focused on the wage side to ensure that people can afford what can be produced 00:36:40.439 --> 00:36:49.414 - here based on the cost. Or that this is the idea they have for their own lives. And so every lot that 00:36:49.414 --> 00:36:51.614 - is not developed one way 00:36:51.714 --> 00:36:58.669 - May be developed another way so that their exclusionary choices and are we making the right ones from 00:36:58.669 --> 00:37:05.488 - a planning perspective and that's You know the goal of my understanding the inventory landscape for 00:37:05.488 --> 00:37:12.579 - serving as a citizen appointee to the Plan Commission and the Board of Zoning Appeals and the ordinance 00:37:12.579 --> 00:37:13.534 - committee and 00:37:13.666 --> 00:37:22.139 - you know, you know, you know, all of that, you know. So thank you very much. If there any other questions, 00:37:22.139 --> 00:37:30.374 - feel free to contact me privately or by phone. I think my numbers out there. Um and I'd be glad to talk 00:37:30.374 --> 00:37:38.530 - with you more about it. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. Um. So um, so my motion failed for 00:37:38.530 --> 00:37:42.014 - one of a second. Um so I guess we will just 00:37:42.146 --> 00:37:48.833 - approval for the amendment to the MOU with the financial solutions group funds named county general 00:37:48.833 --> 00:37:55.989 - fund number 1000 in the amount of not to exceed $34,000. I will second that. Ms Turner King. Good morning. 00:37:55.989 --> 00:38:02.876 - Good morning. So the request before the commissioners today is to approve an amendment to the contract 00:38:02.876 --> 00:38:10.366 - or MOU between the county council and financial solutions group. The amendment does three specific things. One, 00:38:10.626 --> 00:38:19.310 - it's not the end of the year. It expands the scope of services provided by FSG to include services being 00:38:19.310 --> 00:38:27.580 - provided to the municipal unit strategic task force must, which happens to be meeting on Friday. It 00:38:27.580 --> 00:38:36.180 - increases the not the shall not exceed amount to $6000. So with the amendment, the new shall not exceed 00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:39.902 - amount is 34,000 and extends the term of the 00:38:40.066 --> 00:38:50.633 - any questions or comments? No, I think this is pretty straightforward. And so this will give us sorry. 00:38:50.633 --> 00:39:00.482 - So that that cost then runs through the end of twenty twenty seven. Correct. OK. OK. All right. 00:39:00.482 --> 00:39:05.406 - Thank you. All right. Let's see if there is any 00:39:05.730 --> 00:39:15.850 - public comment on this item. You can raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all 00:39:15.850 --> 00:39:25.971 - those in favor of approving the amendment to the MOU with financial solutions group signify by saying 00:39:25.971 --> 00:39:34.206 - aye. Aye. Motion carries two zero. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next item please. 00:39:34.562 --> 00:39:43.500 - I'd like to move approval for the donation of the Jackson Creek Park from the Monroe County Parks and 00:39:43.500 --> 00:39:52.350 - Recreation Board. Second. Oh, she brings gifts. Good morning, Ms. Whitmer. Good morning. Justin from 00:39:52.350 --> 00:40:01.376 - County Legal wanted me to inform you that he has all the signed documents in his office. Yeah, got it. 00:40:01.376 --> 00:40:03.742 - So that is good. This is a 00:40:04.322 --> 00:40:11.611 - a park that's around 30, 35 years old. It's a pocket park as about 18 acres. It's near Mays Greenhouse 00:40:11.611 --> 00:40:18.688 - and the Limestone Greenway on Rogers. It's mainly grass, lots of trees, a little itty bitty shelter 00:40:18.688 --> 00:40:25.765 - that we don't rent out. So there's not a lot of maintenance that goes on there. We have been trying 00:40:25.765 --> 00:40:31.710 - to, the park board has been trying to donate this to the board of commissioners for 00:40:33.122 --> 00:40:41.805 - So Margie Rice started the process. Okay. And we just had a little glitches here and there. There's 00:40:41.805 --> 00:40:46.494 - a land and water conservation fund restriction on it. 00:40:46.626 --> 00:40:53.101 - for outdoor recreational restrictions. So we had to go through DNR, the National Park Service to make 00:40:53.101 --> 00:40:59.703 - sure everything, all the paperwork is, all the I's dotted and the T's crossed. And we have accomplished 00:40:59.703 --> 00:41:06.178 - that. And they would so graciously like to give it to you all. And this would bring us into alignment 00:41:06.178 --> 00:41:12.273 - with all of the other parks in the county. In other words, this is an outlier right now because 00:41:12.273 --> 00:41:14.558 - it specifically names the ownership 00:41:14.946 --> 00:41:22.966 - It is an outlier. Yes. Any questions? No. This is a wonderful gift again. So thank you. You're welcome. 00:41:22.966 --> 00:41:30.293 - We will send you a note, a handwritten note in the morning. Thank you so much. This is really, 00:41:30.293 --> 00:41:35.614 - it's good. It makes sense. And especially for things like insurance. 00:41:35.810 --> 00:41:43.932 - it makes a lot more sense for us to do this. Okay, so for that, with that, let's see if there's any 00:41:43.932 --> 00:41:51.891 - public comment on this item. You can raise your hand on Teams or come to the podium. There we go. 00:41:51.891 --> 00:42:00.257 - Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the donation of Jackson Creek Park from the Monroe County 00:42:00.257 --> 00:42:04.318 - Parks and Recreation Board signify by saying aye. 00:42:04.898 --> 00:42:12.003 - All right. Motion carries to zero. Thank you. All right. Next item. Yes, I'd like to move approval for 00:42:12.003 --> 00:42:18.970 - the young trucking incorporated service agreement funds named food and beverage fund number 49 32 in 00:42:18.970 --> 00:42:23.454 - the amount not to exceed $49,000. I will second that Ms Whitmer. 00:42:23.650 --> 00:42:32.510 - you. Yes we asked quotes from four vendors to just we just want to start the 88 trail at the Monroe 00:42:32.510 --> 00:42:41.458 - County Nature Preserve and young trucking came in with the best quote and we would like to accept it 00:42:41.458 --> 00:42:50.406 - and our staff who is the general contractor will prepare everything and young trucking will dump the 00:42:50.406 --> 00:42:52.798 - stone where we tell him to 00:42:53.282 --> 00:43:02.189 - will be publicly accessible. Say again, accessible, accessible when it will be accessible. Yes, we will 00:43:02.189 --> 00:43:11.268 - have one 80 a trail that is crushed and rolled with quarter minus. It won't be asphalt won't be concrete, 00:43:11.268 --> 00:43:15.550 - but it still is qualifies for 80 a will have its. 00:43:16.354 --> 00:43:23.561 - I'm not sure how many miles it'll be. It'll be kind of a straight shot and all the grass trails on the 00:43:23.561 --> 00:43:30.558 - southern end will connect back to it. So it'll be very difficult to get lost because every trail on 00:43:30.558 --> 00:43:37.765 - the south side leads back to the ADA trail. The dog park that we're building is 100% ADA. We will have 00:43:37.765 --> 00:43:45.182 - shelters, sidewalks, a nice trailhead, picnic tables. Everything will be accessible, parking. And if you, 00:43:45.570 --> 00:43:53.718 - can't manage the grass trails, which is some people cannot, there'll be plenty to see and plenty to 00:43:53.718 --> 00:44:02.193 - do out there. Yeah. And when is it thought that this will be open to the public? If the weather is good 00:44:02.193 --> 00:44:10.586 - to us and our staff level remains the same, we might be able to be open late 2027. Right now our staff 00:44:10.586 --> 00:44:14.334 - is out there planting grass for the dog park. 00:44:15.810 --> 00:44:23.116 - because it takes time for grass to grow. Awesome. Great. Excellent. Do you have any questions? No, I'm 00:44:23.116 --> 00:44:30.281 - just excited that things are happening so quickly. Yeah, people are really excited about this across 00:44:30.281 --> 00:44:37.658 - the community because it's on the east side and it's such a great location in terms of not duplicating, 00:44:37.658 --> 00:44:39.006 - not more west side 00:44:39.234 --> 00:44:45.700 - Southwest, Northwest, we've got something now on the east side, which is really great. And I'll be contacting 00:44:45.700 --> 00:44:51.931 - some of the neighbors in the next couple of weeks to get them up to speed. What's going on? That's really 00:44:51.931 --> 00:44:57.927 - good. And it's going to just be very serene and quiet and a place to reflect or go hiking or hang out 00:44:57.927 --> 00:45:04.158 - with your dog. Yeah. Yeah. Stanley is definitely looking forward to this. So I keep telling him about it. 00:45:04.482 --> 00:45:12.468 - He keeps wanting to know more. So that's why I'm asking the questions I'm asking. He's demanding. 00:45:12.468 --> 00:45:21.025 - All right. Thank you. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You raise your hand on Teams 00:45:21.025 --> 00:45:29.501 - or come to the podium. Let's see. None. All those in favor of approving the Young Trucking Inc. Service 00:45:29.501 --> 00:45:32.190 - Agreement signify by saying aye. 00:45:32.898 --> 00:45:39.944 - All right, motion carries 2-0. All right, next item, please. Yes, I'd like to move approval for the 00:45:39.944 --> 00:45:47.200 - Trailhead Labs Incorporated Service Agreement, funds named County General and Perks and Honor Verding, 00:45:47.200 --> 00:45:54.457 - fund number 1,179 in the amount of $16,500. I will second that. Ms. Weber? We've been doing this. This 00:45:54.457 --> 00:46:00.446 - will be our second round with Outer Spatial. It's an app that you get on your phone. 00:46:00.706 --> 00:46:07.794 - And you can look at our parks, you can go on trails. And the reason why that it was chosen a few years 00:46:07.794 --> 00:46:14.882 - back is Bloomington Parks and Recreation also has the same app. So this way people can just seamlessly 00:46:14.882 --> 00:46:21.970 - go, oh, Cascades, oh, Harris Farm Park, oh. And we advertise it a lot. We have yard signs all over our 00:46:21.970 --> 00:46:25.342 - greenways to say, hey, get this app, it's great. 00:46:25.442 --> 00:46:31.567 - And the icon, I kept asking my staff, what do you think the icon looks like? And everyone had a different 00:46:31.567 --> 00:46:37.404 - reason to answer. But you know what? I don't know if you've ever watched South Park before. Yes. OK. 00:46:37.404 --> 00:46:43.240 - Yes. There's Kenny. Kenny who? Kenny. Yes. Right? It looks like Kenny. It's Kenny. Yes. It's kind of 00:46:43.240 --> 00:46:49.019 - like orange with a little white. Yeah. There you go. That's the icon. It's Kenny or something else. 00:46:49.019 --> 00:46:54.046 - Kenny's head, anyway. Right. Yeah. His head. Well, that's all there is on Kenny. Yeah. 00:46:54.178 --> 00:47:02.415 - So anyway, the park board would, they are purchasing, they would like you to approve it. It's a three 00:47:02.415 --> 00:47:10.734 - year agreement and we'll reassess every three years to see if it's working out for everybody. But this 00:47:10.734 --> 00:47:19.294 - is the future. Yeah, I like it. I have it. I have the app and I will say that the county parks department 00:47:19.294 --> 00:47:22.686 - has done a really good job using the app. 00:47:22.786 --> 00:47:28.788 - But I find the city side of it very frustrating because they have listed themselves multiple times for 00:47:28.788 --> 00:47:34.615 - the same park. It is absolutely it is absolutely the most annoying thing ever. I would have John on 00:47:34.615 --> 00:47:40.733 - our staff look into that. Yeah, maybe it's yeah, maybe we could help them. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that would 00:47:40.733 --> 00:47:46.793 - be great. Thank you. Because it is really hard to use their side of it. But our side of it makes sense. 00:47:46.793 --> 00:47:50.814 - It's all, you know, one one of each and makes sense. So I like easy. 00:47:50.914 --> 00:47:58.217 - Yeah, I do too. Anything? No. Again, I just, I found this app by those very same roads, trail signs. 00:47:58.217 --> 00:48:05.881 - And so thank you so much. I think those signs are very effective and I would say that we need to continue 00:48:05.881 --> 00:48:13.473 - using them as well. Okay. All right. Let's see if there's any public comment on this site. You can raise 00:48:13.473 --> 00:48:16.510 - your hand on Teams or come to the podium. 00:48:21.602 --> 00:48:29.865 - I see none. All those in favor of approving the Trailhead Labs Inc. service agreement signify by saying 00:48:29.865 --> 00:48:37.810 - aye. Aye. Motion carries, 2-0. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Next item, please. Yes, I'd 00:48:37.810 --> 00:48:45.834 - like to move approval for the site improvement agreement, fund name, cumulative capital, fund number 00:48:45.834 --> 00:48:49.886 - 1138 in the amount of $29,691. I will second that. 00:48:51.042 --> 00:48:57.377 - Good morning, everyone. Site improve is a company you probably recognize. We were partnering with them 00:48:57.377 --> 00:49:03.713 - before on our earlier website. When we moved over to the state's contract, site improve was baked into 00:49:03.713 --> 00:49:09.925 - that agreement with the state, but it actually hasn't quite worked out as we understood it was going 00:49:09.925 --> 00:49:15.891 - to work. Site improve, our initial use of site improve was to tell us when we have broken links, 00:49:15.891 --> 00:49:18.782 - misspellings, all those things on the website. 00:49:19.778 --> 00:49:26.084 - the state holds a licensing for site and proof for the website, we don't get the reports. We're having 00:49:26.084 --> 00:49:32.207 - to reach out to them. It's a cumbersome process than waiting on them to submit them. The other part 00:49:32.207 --> 00:49:38.390 - of this too is with the compliance standards being set that are due by August 20th or by 2027. We do 00:49:38.390 --> 00:49:44.574 - have over 10,000 PDFs that still need to be remediated. We've attempted to use Adobe tools to try to 00:49:44.706 --> 00:49:50.430 - remediate most of these. That's proved inadequate. It does part of the job. It doesn't do a complete 00:49:50.430 --> 00:49:56.550 - job, as well as the fact it's too cumbersome for one or two people to try to sort through tens of thousands 00:49:56.550 --> 00:50:02.273 - of documents to get these up to standard. So I brought this request to, again, partner with Site and 00:50:02.273 --> 00:50:07.997 - Prove, get it so that we can actually don't have to reach out to the state for those reports, and we 00:50:07.997 --> 00:50:14.174 - can get these ADA compliance issues streamed out. Yep. That's good. Thank you so much. Do you have anything? 00:50:14.754 --> 00:50:21.764 - I just am very grateful for programs like this because otherwise you're dealing with tons of staff hours. 00:50:21.764 --> 00:50:28.509 - So yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Unworkable. Yeah, and yeah, I appreciate this and it and it looks like 00:50:28.509 --> 00:50:35.386 - it's about the same or maybe even a little less than what we paid before we went latched onto the state 00:50:35.386 --> 00:50:42.264 - website. If I remember correctly, it is this whole ADA compliance standard site they have to it is new. 00:50:42.264 --> 00:50:44.446 - They didn't have these services. 00:50:44.578 --> 00:50:49.905 - but they've managed to get it baked in without getting the price tag. They recognize that they've got 00:50:49.905 --> 00:50:55.127 - to make it obtainable by the counties or it's no good to have the product. And I think they've done 00:50:55.127 --> 00:51:00.507 - that. That's good. That's good. While you're here and we're talking website, can you talk a little bit 00:51:00.507 --> 00:51:05.886 - about that? What's going on with our website and the state and all of that? Can you give us an update? 00:51:05.886 --> 00:51:11.369 - Yes. As a matter of fact, we just got an update from the state this morning. So it's good that you bring 00:51:11.369 --> 00:51:12.414 - that up. The state, 00:51:13.730 --> 00:51:19.626 - has two partners with their website one is Tyler incorporated which we have a lot of Tyler products 00:51:19.626 --> 00:51:25.935 - here at the county. Then they've also have what's called a CMS partner who's actually running that content 00:51:25.935 --> 00:51:32.125 - back in so it's a two person agreement there. At some point the state and Tyler separated from the group 00:51:32.125 --> 00:51:35.486 - they were working with the CMS editors and adopted a new 00:51:35.682 --> 00:51:41.563 - company. We weren't aware of that change. We were notified of it at zero hour and told, hey, you've 00:51:41.563 --> 00:51:47.444 - got to come to this mandatory meeting this afternoon and then do the training. So they have been in 00:51:47.444 --> 00:51:53.678 - the process of migrating over to this new content editor. They are not complete. The original anticipated 00:51:53.678 --> 00:51:57.854 - date was about the 15th, 16th. Now they're telling us it's going to be 00:51:57.986 --> 00:52:05.006 - to 28th before all migration is complete. So we recognize there may be some links to our website that 00:52:05.006 --> 00:52:11.956 - aren't accurate, things like that. That's because we're still in a state of transition for hopefully 00:52:11.956 --> 00:52:18.976 - no more than another 10 days. Okay. Well, I know it's been a lot to deal with and appreciate the hard 00:52:18.976 --> 00:52:23.518 - work of you and your staff to make it as painless as possible for 00:52:23.714 --> 00:52:29.339 - not only Monroe County employees, but our residents as well. So thank you for that. It's been a lot 00:52:29.339 --> 00:52:34.963 - to keep track of, but our webmaster has done an awesome job of staying on top of this and trying to 00:52:34.963 --> 00:52:40.644 - stay ahead of it as best as he can. You can't always second guess what the state's going to do ahead 00:52:40.644 --> 00:52:46.550 - of him. So that he does his best to do so. Right. Thank you, Venkat. Thank you so much. All right. Let's 00:52:46.550 --> 00:52:50.206 - see if there's any public comment on the site improve agreement. 00:52:51.266 --> 00:52:59.203 - you raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. All right. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving 00:52:59.203 --> 00:53:06.772 - the site improve agreement signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries 2-0. Next item, please. Yes, I'd 00:53:06.772 --> 00:53:12.798 - like to move approval for Everbridge SNAP comms agreements. It's kind of a funny. 00:53:13.442 --> 00:53:21.223 - fund name cumulative capital fund number 1138 in the amount of $10,511. I will second that. And Mr. 00:53:21.223 --> 00:53:29.081 - Crone is joined by Ms. Nebel. So Jamie and I've been talking to different vendors for about the last 00:53:29.081 --> 00:53:37.406 - year, trying to come up with a solution to put out mass alert notifications in real time out to employees. 00:53:37.666 --> 00:53:43.782 - This product that we're we have just looked at here goes ties in with the Everbridge company that we 00:53:43.782 --> 00:53:49.838 - already use their notification system of so. This new system would put out desktop alerts. We could 00:53:49.838 --> 00:53:55.530 - run it on computer monitors, TV screens, anything tied to our accounting network. Those could 00:53:55.530 --> 00:54:01.888 - be notifications of any kind. They don't have to just be alert situations, but be notifications of power 00:54:01.888 --> 00:54:06.430 - outages, network outages and things like that. So Jamie, if you'd like to. 00:54:06.626 --> 00:54:15.218 - Sure. This has the potential to put it into more employee hands, rather than the traditional. Traditionally, 00:54:15.218 --> 00:54:23.495 - your today notifications are ran by Justin and myself, sending out the widespread cell phone, telephone, 00:54:23.495 --> 00:54:31.694 - and emails. If we go with this route, this could potentially put it into more people's hands to be able 00:54:31.694 --> 00:54:33.822 - to send out notifications. 00:54:33.922 --> 00:54:41.298 - and which could send it out quicker, rather than going through that phone tree of calling one of us, 00:54:41.298 --> 00:54:48.674 - and we may be at home, because I'm sure everybody's aware we are 24-7. So we could be driving. There 00:54:48.674 --> 00:54:56.051 - are daily life challenges that sometimes delay those messages, and that's just part of it. But yeah, 00:54:56.051 --> 00:55:03.646 - so this could make it easier to send out, easier to receive. And it's kind of a goal that we've had for 00:55:03.874 --> 00:55:11.397 - a while. Yeah, that would be good. Yep. Excellent. Thank you. Yep. I think this is necessary because 00:55:11.397 --> 00:55:18.845 - humans are not emergency management robots. So, yeah. Thank you so much for all your efforts trying 00:55:18.845 --> 00:55:26.814 - to find this solution. Yeah. I like that it's tied into our current system, which is great. I saw a lot of 00:55:27.490 --> 00:55:34.981 - folks when the city had their boil water advisory talking about, well, I didn't know about it. If the 00:55:34.981 --> 00:55:42.692 - landlord pays the bill, the landlord gets notified, but not the tenant, et cetera. And my recommendation 00:55:42.692 --> 00:55:50.110 - is get on the county alert system. You'll know what's going on. And that was an important, it really 00:55:50.110 --> 00:55:55.838 - helped a lot of people, but I also saw a lot of people that missed out on it. 00:55:56.034 --> 00:56:03.623 - because they weren't tied in. And it's a free service that we offer to all county residents. You just 00:56:03.623 --> 00:56:11.213 - go on our website and sign up and you can get text, email or phone notifications. It could be weather 00:56:11.213 --> 00:56:18.728 - emergencies, could be boil water advisories. It could be anything like that. And I do hope that more 00:56:18.728 --> 00:56:24.606 - of the water corporations outside the city will start using Everbridge and I'm 00:56:24.738 --> 00:56:31.166 - going to talk to mine again about it because they still apparently aren't. So literally life saving. 00:56:31.166 --> 00:56:37.595 - It can be. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. Thank you so much. All right. So let's see if there's any 00:56:37.595 --> 00:56:42.814 - public comments on this item. You raise your hand on teams or come to the podium. 00:56:51.970 --> 00:56:59.093 - All those in favor of approving the Everbridge SNAPCOMs agreements signify by saying aye. Aye. 00:56:59.093 --> 00:57:06.666 - Motion carries, 2-0. Thank you. Thank you for being here, emergency management director, Ms. Neivel. 00:57:06.666 --> 00:57:14.614 - Next item, please. Yes, I'd like to move approval for JustFoya public records request software agreement, 00:57:14.614 --> 00:57:21.662 - fund name, cumulative capital, fund number 1138 in the amount of $29,500. I will second that. 00:57:21.922 --> 00:57:27.810 - Mr. Krone, you've worked very hard on this. Tell us all about it. So we've been trying for quite a while 00:57:27.810 --> 00:57:33.418 - now to come up with a centralized system for the public to be able to make records requests. We had 00:57:33.418 --> 00:57:39.025 - tried an earlier product with another vendor, ran into a problem with that, citing security issues. 00:57:39.025 --> 00:57:44.801 - We did not go ahead and fully implement that program and deploy it to the public. So I've been talking 00:57:44.801 --> 00:57:48.446 - to several departments, especially the Sheriff's Department, who 00:57:48.610 --> 00:57:54.949 - a lot of requests. So there's been a lot of interest to get a program going. Additionally, this creates 00:57:54.949 --> 00:58:01.227 - a lot of overhead with these public records requests for the legal department having to go through the 00:58:01.227 --> 00:58:07.383 - documents, do any redactions and things like that, which this product does for us. So it's set up on 00:58:07.383 --> 00:58:13.965 - a system of workflows. If you have any knowledge of our open go permitting system, it's the same principle. 00:58:13.965 --> 00:58:15.550 - It's set up on workflows. 00:58:15.682 --> 00:58:21.991 - that everything could be notified through the department's county legal would be aware. And this will 00:58:21.991 --> 00:58:28.548 - get us into compliance with the tracking requirements that we now have with the state on having to report 00:58:28.548 --> 00:58:34.734 - these. Great. Thank you so much. And again, thank you for answering all the questions I sent to you 00:58:34.734 --> 00:58:40.920 - on email. It was interesting to watch the presentation. It was really helpful. Any questions? No, I 00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:42.590 - am very grateful for this. 00:58:42.690 --> 00:58:50.402 - we need to be mindful of the costs on staff as we have had more requests come in. We have a need for 00:58:50.402 --> 00:58:58.343 - a better way to deal with these requests and public transparency is a very important. Value so we need, 00:58:58.343 --> 00:59:06.436 - but we also need to generate these reports in a timely fashion and also be mindful of that cost on staff. 00:59:06.436 --> 00:59:08.574 - So. Thank you so very much. 00:59:08.738 --> 00:59:16.723 - It streamlines who's getting the information, and if it's not the right department, that it goes to 00:59:16.723 --> 00:59:25.268 - the right department, and that it won't accept these very generic, like, every email you sent from January 00:59:25.268 --> 00:59:33.253 - 1st to December 31st of 2025. You know, you're like, whoa. So it helps the resident by keeping them 00:59:33.253 --> 00:59:37.246 - focused on what it is they're really looking for. 00:59:37.378 --> 00:59:46.192 - and that saves all of us time and it helps us serve them better. So I'm so happy that we're doing this 00:59:46.192 --> 00:59:55.434 - and I'm very grateful that you found this company. So this is a one year, are there any deals on multi-year 00:59:55.434 --> 01:00:02.622 - agreements if things work out well in the first year? So I brought that up to them. 01:00:02.754 --> 01:00:08.921 - That's not an offer at this time, but I think as they get more people on because just boy is picking 01:00:08.921 --> 01:00:15.271 - up more traction in the state. I anticipate at some point they're going to offer multi-year agreements. 01:00:15.271 --> 01:00:21.805 - Yeah. Is the city of Bloomington using this? No, they use another system. I actually, that was the company 01:00:21.805 --> 01:00:27.422 - I'd reached out to originally over a year ago and we'd started down that road. There was a. 01:00:28.514 --> 01:00:34.181 - Through their system, there was an upload option. So anyone from the public could simply upload any 01:00:34.181 --> 01:00:39.849 - file off of their computer. And there was no scanning of that provided by the vendor. So as soon as 01:00:39.849 --> 01:00:45.743 - we'd open it on our side, we just opened ourselves up to potential of malicious code, a virus, anything 01:00:45.743 --> 01:00:51.410 - being spread. They originally, when we went through it, said, oh, that's no problem. We'll take the 01:00:51.410 --> 01:00:57.078 - link out. When we got through the agreement and I actually built the system, that was the last step 01:00:57.078 --> 01:00:57.758 - to go live. 01:00:57.858 --> 01:01:04.442 - then they inform me, no, we won't remove the link. And we terminated the agreement with them. This option 01:01:04.442 --> 01:01:11.088 - does have an upload portal. We can turn that off, but the difference with this company is they're scanning 01:01:11.088 --> 01:01:17.361 - every single document that comes through before it gets passed on to us. Good, good, good. Good work 01:01:17.361 --> 01:01:23.635 - on your part. Great, great investigative work. All right, let's see if there's any public comment on 01:01:23.635 --> 01:01:24.318 - this item. 01:01:25.154 --> 01:01:35.209 - you raise your hand on teams or you can come to the podium. It looks like we do have a commenter. Ms. 01:01:35.209 --> 01:01:45.460 - Ford, you will have three minutes, please say your name and let us know your county of residence. We're 01:01:45.460 --> 01:01:49.502 - getting you up there. Okay, there we go. 01:01:51.810 --> 01:01:57.322 - My name is Jamie Ford. I'm a Monroe County resident. I've said it at the council meeting multiple times 01:01:57.322 --> 01:02:02.622 - that, you know, I've submitted multiple records requests in various departments. And some of those, 01:02:02.622 --> 01:02:07.921 - it feels like they've been straight up ignored. So if this system will help get those faster and be 01:02:07.921 --> 01:02:13.433 - able to have more transparency and, you know, have that communication and get those records in a timely 01:02:13.433 --> 01:02:18.839 - fashion, the way the Access to Public Records Act says that they're supposed to, then I'm all for it. 01:02:18.839 --> 01:02:19.422 - Thank you. 01:02:20.098 --> 01:02:27.021 - Thank you, Ms. Ford. Appreciate that. Yeah, and I would not say that anybody's FOIA requests have been 01:02:27.021 --> 01:02:33.877 - ignored, but we go through a lot of steps to pull information together, and it can take a lot of time 01:02:33.877 --> 01:02:40.666 - from multiple people to pull all those records together. So that is just something that happens when 01:02:40.666 --> 01:02:46.110 - you're thorough. And I'd rather be thorough than just get something out quickly. 01:02:46.210 --> 01:02:54.056 - All right, thank you so much. Any other comments? Okay. All right, seeing none, all those in favor of 01:02:54.056 --> 01:03:01.826 - approving the JustFoya public records request software agreement, signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion 01:03:01.826 --> 01:03:10.133 - carries two zero. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Next item, please. Yes, I'd like to move approval 01:03:10.133 --> 01:03:15.518 - for the Delta Vision Plan Fund Name Self-Insurance Fund number 4,700. 01:03:16.610 --> 01:03:27.018 - Can I make a recommendation that you guys could just put I through L together? And she could then discuss 01:03:27.018 --> 01:03:36.542 - each one. I was wondering about that. Yes, I'd like to make a motion to consolidate I through L. 01:03:38.434 --> 01:03:47.208 - So the Delta Vision Plan, the Delta Dental Plan, Anthem Renewal for 2027, and the Reliance Standard 01:03:47.208 --> 01:03:56.069 - Renewal of Ancillary, all of which come out of self-insurance fund number 4,700. I will second that. 01:03:56.069 --> 01:03:58.526 - Good morning. Good morning. 01:03:59.426 --> 01:04:06.932 - All right, I am here today because I'm requesting the commissioners to approve the health and the ancillary 01:04:06.932 --> 01:04:14.021 - services that we receive for our benefits coverages. The submission packet that you received includes 01:04:14.021 --> 01:04:21.041 - the renewal information and new vendor contracts, including coverage plans and summaries for Anthem, 01:04:21.041 --> 01:04:22.014 - Delta Dental, 01:04:22.210 --> 01:04:29.909 - VSP vision and reliance standards. And that reliance standards covers group life, voluntary life, 01:04:29.909 --> 01:04:38.002 - AD and D, short and long-term disability, critical illness, accident and hospital indemnity coverages. 01:04:38.002 --> 01:04:45.858 - We have secured the continuation of the services and the policies that you have had before. So none 01:04:45.858 --> 01:04:51.358 - of the policies were caught in any way. And the comprehensive package 01:04:51.522 --> 01:05:01.153 - will be the same for 2027, and I respectfully request a vote to pass those services. Thank you so much. 01:05:01.153 --> 01:05:10.414 - Do you have any questions? None. Thank you so much for all of the diligent work you did. Thank you. 01:05:10.414 --> 01:05:19.582 - I know you worked with Angie and your staff and folks around employees from all around the county. 01:05:19.714 --> 01:05:29.785 - And it's really good to be able to offer the same. Consistency is really important to people. And so 01:05:29.785 --> 01:05:40.055 - that's really helpful. And then you've added some new group type insurance options, like pet insurance 01:05:40.055 --> 01:05:48.830 - and things like that for employees to buy into, which is a great thing. So I think it's 01:05:49.282 --> 01:05:57.596 - You did a super job, and you hit the ground running. I really appreciate it, because this is some squirrely 01:05:57.596 --> 01:06:05.217 - stuff. This is the kind of stuff where I'm like, OK, everybody be quiet. I have to just read this. 01:06:05.217 --> 01:06:06.526 - Same here. Yeah. 01:06:06.882 --> 01:06:15.574 - So it's great to have that same level of coverage. So thank you for that. You're welcome. All right. 01:06:15.574 --> 01:06:24.351 - Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You can raise your hand on teams or come to the 01:06:24.351 --> 01:06:31.838 - podium. Wow. Okay. Seeing none. All those in favor of approving the Delta Vision Plan, 01:06:31.938 --> 01:06:41.584 - Delta Dental Plan, the Anthem Renewal for 2027, and the Reliance Standard Renewal of Ancillary signify 01:06:41.584 --> 01:06:51.323 - by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries to zero. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Next item, please. 01:06:51.323 --> 01:07:00.126 - Yes, I'd like to move approval for Gentry East Subdivision Phase number three, five, and six. 01:07:01.378 --> 01:07:11.887 - I will second that. Mr. Ayers, good morning. Good morning. Morning, commissioners. So this is for the 01:07:11.887 --> 01:07:22.499 - acceptance of phases 3A, 5 and 6 of Gentry East Subdivision. A little history here. The developer left 01:07:22.499 --> 01:07:24.766 - the burden of the HOA 01:07:24.866 --> 01:07:34.145 - get the project completed. They've done that and are requesting acceptance into inventory. We would 01:07:34.145 --> 01:07:43.423 - be through the erotic extensions and new roadways, we'd be accepting 1.37 mile, taking our total up 01:07:43.423 --> 01:07:51.774 - to 655.105 miles. The HOA is here if you have any questions for them or their contractor. 01:07:53.602 --> 01:07:59.656 - Thank you so much. Do you have any questions? No, I know how diligently people have worked on this. 01:07:59.656 --> 01:08:06.014 - And so thank you so much. I think this is a great example of partnership. And I thank everyone for their 01:08:06.014 --> 01:08:12.492 - patience. Yes, I agree. Yeah. And the residents there have been patient. But we didn't create the problem. 01:08:12.492 --> 01:08:18.970 - And we've just been trying to fix it. And I think that solution that we came up with is a good compromise, 01:08:18.970 --> 01:08:23.390 - because everybody receives what they thought they were going to receive. 01:08:23.842 --> 01:08:31.210 - Yeah, it's still something that's doable, that's going to get finished. So we thank the HOA for working 01:08:31.210 --> 01:08:38.365 - with Monroe County on this, and I'm sure they're going to be happy to have these roads in the county 01:08:38.365 --> 01:08:45.804 - inventory before the first snowflake falls this year. I agree. Yeah, excellent. I see nods of agreement. 01:08:45.804 --> 01:08:46.654 - Okay, good. 01:08:46.754 --> 01:08:56.440 - Thank you. Any public comment on this item? You can raise your hand on teams. You may come to the podium 01:08:56.440 --> 01:09:05.849 - if you wish to speak. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the Gentry East subdivision phases 01:09:05.849 --> 01:09:15.166 - three, five and six and accepting those roadways into Monroe County inventory signify by saying aye. 01:09:15.970 --> 01:09:26.351 - second. I motion carries to zero. Next item, please. I would like to move approval for the Derby pine 01:09:26.351 --> 01:09:37.342 - subdivision. I will second that shares. Um this is for the acceptance of the Derby pine subdivision. Um the 01:09:38.306 --> 01:09:48.680 - So with this total, with the road extension of Holland Drive and the new roadway, we'd be adding 0.479 01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:58.853 - mile, taking our total up to 655.584 mile. The roadways were built to the construction plan and meet 01:09:58.853 --> 01:10:06.206 - chapter 755 as required. Excellent. Thank you so much. And any comments? 01:10:06.626 --> 01:10:14.684 - this is continues to have curb appeal. Yeah. So really, really glad to see that this is moving forward 01:10:14.684 --> 01:10:22.663 - as well. And I know that absolutely those residents are going to be glad as well for sure. Cause I've 01:10:22.663 --> 01:10:30.799 - talked to them. So, all right, let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You can raise your 01:10:30.799 --> 01:10:33.694 - hand on teams or come to the podium. 01:10:41.122 --> 01:10:48.536 - Seeing none, all those in favor of accepting the roadways into Monroe County inventory at the Derby 01:10:48.536 --> 01:10:56.099 - Pines subdivision signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries to zero. Next item, please. Thank you so 01:10:56.099 --> 01:11:03.662 - much, Mr. Ayers. I'd like to move approval for the new engagement letter with litigation council fund 01:11:03.662 --> 01:11:08.926 - named County General Fund number 1,000. I will second that. Ms. Purdy. 01:11:09.410 --> 01:11:17.332 - Yeah, this is just kind of housekeeping, if you will. The attorney that has been working with the board 01:11:17.332 --> 01:11:24.949 - of commissioners and the sheriff on the jail lawsuit litigation has changed firms. And this is just 01:11:24.949 --> 01:11:32.719 - allowing for her to continue to represent both entities under her new firm. And the rate is the same. 01:11:32.719 --> 01:11:37.822 - No changes. Yeah, which is really good. Yeah. Excellent. Anything? 01:11:38.210 --> 01:11:48.039 - Nope, just a pro forma. Let's see if there's any public comment on this item. You can raise your hand 01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:57.965 - on Teams or come to the podium. Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the new engagement letter 01:11:57.965 --> 01:12:02.494 - with litigation counsel signify by saying aye. 01:12:03.362 --> 01:12:13.295 - I motion carries to zero. I'd like to take a 10 minute recess at this moment, if we could, since we've 01:12:13.295 --> 01:12:22.939 - got still have two long items left. And so we'll be back at, well, we'll be back before 1130, 1128. 01:12:22.939 --> 01:12:30.654 - Thank you. We're in recess. I'm gonna call this Board of Commissioners meeting. 01:12:30.850 --> 01:12:39.741 - I would like to move approval for ordinance back to order. We're on item P ordinance. Um and if you 01:12:39.741 --> 01:12:48.810 - could make a motion, please. Um I would like to move approval for ordinance 2026-39 amendments to the 01:12:48.810 --> 01:12:56.190 - county development ordinance to align with state code changes. I will second that. 01:12:57.826 --> 01:13:05.223 - So I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen and go over some of the changes being proposed by today's 01:13:05.223 --> 01:13:12.620 - amendment. So in the Court and County Development Ordinance, we have a list of revisions that begin 01:13:12.620 --> 01:13:20.313 - on page 203 of the packet. So anytime that there's a revision made to the County Development Ordinance, 01:13:20.313 --> 01:13:27.710 - we list the ordinance number, the zoning ordinance amendment that goes through the plan commission, 01:13:27.842 --> 01:13:35.991 - list of revisions here as well. So I'm going to just go over some high-level changes, but if anyone 01:13:35.991 --> 01:13:44.140 - is wanting to go through these more thoroughly, I'm happy to answer any questions or you can follow 01:13:44.140 --> 01:13:52.452 - the red line as we go through. So the first change I wanted to discuss was on page 215 of the packet. 01:13:52.452 --> 01:13:57.342 - There is a note here for subdivision standards. It does say 01:13:57.506 --> 01:14:04.634 - This is tied to the fact that administrative subdivisions oftentimes are used to fix encroachments over 01:14:04.634 --> 01:14:11.693 - lot lines and they may begin with two properties that are what we would call nonconforming to what the 01:14:11.693 --> 01:14:18.615 - requirements are in the code. So in order to allow a nonconformity to proceed with an administrative 01:14:18.615 --> 01:14:22.590 - subdivision to become less nonconforming, we're hoping to 01:14:22.754 --> 01:14:29.013 - go ahead and amend the CDO to exclude them from the requirements of buildable area. Now this exclusion 01:14:29.013 --> 01:14:35.393 - would be, again, for lots that both do not contain already one acre of buildable area. So in an instance 01:14:35.393 --> 01:14:41.591 - of encroachment, you're making it better, but you cannot possibly come up with two acres of buildable 01:14:41.591 --> 01:14:45.662 - area if, for instance, each lot is only a half acre to begin with. 01:14:46.146 --> 01:14:53.924 - So that is that change there and it also aligns with the change and on page 532, which is under the 01:14:53.924 --> 01:15:01.780 - subdivision standards for administrative. So we're taking the language out of here. And then also on 01:15:01.780 --> 01:15:08.702 - the two pagers for each zoning district. The next change that I would like to discuss is 01:15:08.962 --> 01:15:15.449 - regarding the use table. So a lot of these changes are prompted by the state code changes as noted and 01:15:15.449 --> 01:15:21.873 - also some scrivener's error or staff changes that we continue to want to correct as we go through. So 01:15:21.873 --> 01:15:28.360 - this temporary or seasonal activity we are requesting that it be added permitted with standards to the 01:15:28.360 --> 01:15:34.974 - residential zoning district. This was something that when we consolidated two zones into the residential 01:15:34.974 --> 01:15:36.926 - district it was lost under the 01:15:37.474 --> 01:15:45.048 - prior code to this code. So we'd like to see that added back in. And of course, the standards will also 01:15:45.048 --> 01:15:52.550 - ensure that the lot is eligible for the use as well, or they would have to proceed with variances. The 01:15:52.550 --> 01:16:00.125 - next change is on page 253 of the packet. So under the state code changes that went into effect on July 01:16:00.125 --> 01:16:07.262 - 1st of 2026, there's a requirement to add in now what's called a sporting goods store. And that's 01:16:07.490 --> 01:16:14.770 - small, medium, large, and big bucks, and it's a requirement that we add these to the limited business 01:16:14.770 --> 01:16:22.193 - and general business zone. We have done so with related standards that we are allowed to apply, similar 01:16:22.193 --> 01:16:29.401 - to retail sales. We're also adding a P, which means permitted use, to the bus terminal use, which is 01:16:29.401 --> 01:16:31.614 - the heavy industrial district. 01:16:31.714 --> 01:16:38.408 - We are aligning this with our comprehensive plan and also the staff here at the planning office has 01:16:38.408 --> 01:16:45.570 - knowledge of the Bloomington transit. They want to expand a bus terminal facility on West profile parkway, 01:16:45.570 --> 01:16:52.264 - which is zoned heavy industrial. So it aligns with the comprehensive plan and we also see this as a 01:16:52.264 --> 01:16:56.414 - needed change to make sure that this development can proceed. 01:16:57.442 --> 01:17:05.031 - And then indoor shooting range, this is another state code requirement that we permit it with standards 01:17:05.031 --> 01:17:12.328 - in the agricultural limited business general business light industrial heavy industrial and mineral 01:17:12.328 --> 01:17:19.771 - extraction zones. So the state has required us to make these uses permitted with standards. So we are 01:17:19.771 --> 01:17:22.398 - complying with that requirement. As 01:17:22.530 --> 01:17:30.054 - related to the sporting goods store. We've modeled the standards after our retail sales uses. So you'll 01:17:30.054 --> 01:17:37.289 - see the or sporting goods store of a similar scale. And then we're also changing the standards here 01:17:37.289 --> 01:17:44.524 - for the indoor shooting range that will align with the state code as well. So this is straight from 01:17:44.524 --> 01:17:48.286 - the state, this language that we're adding in here. 01:17:50.434 --> 01:17:57.448 - The next change I want to briefly touch on is related to the wireless communication facilities. We used 01:17:57.448 --> 01:18:04.260 - to be able to administer the wireless communication facilities, the new cell towers based on height. 01:18:04.260 --> 01:18:11.005 - The state has stated that we're not allowed to solely regulate height. And so now we are regulating 01:18:11.005 --> 01:18:16.670 - on things such as whether they're concealed in a residential or institutional zone. 01:18:16.994 --> 01:18:23.909 - or if they're in the airport zone which still has FAA regulations. Non-concealed towers are going to 01:18:23.909 --> 01:18:30.823 - be allowed to be allowed it's going to be permitted in the industrial business zones so that's not a 01:18:30.823 --> 01:18:37.670 - requirement that those are concealed and if someone wants to propose a non-concealed tower in say a 01:18:37.670 --> 01:18:39.518 - rural residential district 01:18:39.650 --> 01:18:47.751 - It's not that it's not permitted. It just requires conditional use approval, which means notice to neighbors 01:18:47.751 --> 01:18:55.406 - as well. And in their application, they will have to state how tall the structure should be. And we're 01:18:55.406 --> 01:19:03.284 - of the understanding that most cell tower companies will still probably proceed with 199 foot tall towers 01:19:03.284 --> 01:19:07.966 - because it triggers FAA review if they are 200 feet or taller. 01:19:08.162 --> 01:19:16.290 - Though we're not allowed to regulate based on height, FA is. And so we are hopeful that maybe that takes 01:19:16.290 --> 01:19:24.107 - care of some of the extremely tall towers that maybe wouldn't be fitting in some of these districts. 01:19:24.107 --> 01:19:32.003 - So then on page 326, this is still under the cell towers. We are also clarifying what the BZA is able 01:19:32.003 --> 01:19:35.486 - to ask for during a conditional use hearing. 01:19:35.586 --> 01:19:42.600 - So some of the things that the state put into the law is that we're not able to ask for additional 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:49.898 - information on wireless coverage or speeds. This is proprietary information for the state. And so this 01:19:49.898 --> 01:19:57.125 - is just a reminder to our board zoning appeals that when we get to a hearing about a cell tower, this 01:19:57.125 --> 01:20:03.006 - is what we are and are not able to ask about certain facilities. And then we also, 01:20:03.170 --> 01:20:10.683 - made a image and clarified setbacks for what we call the equipment compound area. So this is a typical 01:20:10.683 --> 01:20:18.489 - cell tower with a lease area and a compound area, which is fenced in and gravel with what we call monopole 01:20:18.489 --> 01:20:26.075 - structure in the center. So their required setback is the fall zone. So if there were a wind or tornado 01:20:26.075 --> 01:20:31.838 - event, when that cell tower collapses, that would be considered the fall zone. 01:20:32.066 --> 01:20:39.679 - And then they also have to meet the zoning setback for the zoning district. And then we've clarified 01:20:39.679 --> 01:20:47.217 - as well that the generator has to be kind of the furthest point from the property lines as well. So 01:20:47.217 --> 01:20:55.132 - that is something that we've clarified in here. The next change is regarding the sidewalk applicability. 01:20:55.132 --> 01:20:58.750 - So we have made some clarifying changes because 01:20:59.010 --> 01:21:06.387 - D, part C here was a little bit duplicative with another section of our code. So we tried to narrow 01:21:06.387 --> 01:21:13.763 - in on mileage from another sidewalk to require a new sidewalk. And also we wanna make it clear when 01:21:13.763 --> 01:21:21.140 - there's language such as et cetera that creates some ambiguity for staff review and also for people 01:21:21.140 --> 01:21:27.262 - that are proposing a subdivision, well, is the sidewalk going to be needed or not? 01:21:27.362 --> 01:21:34.563 - So we're getting rid of et cetera because we feel like this list is pretty comprehensive as it is. And 01:21:34.563 --> 01:21:41.834 - then the last thing I wanna note is that we are just generally making definition changes to align again 01:21:41.834 --> 01:21:48.966 - with state code and those are throughout and you can find those in red line here. So with that, I can 01:21:48.966 --> 01:21:53.790 - take any questions you might have and anything else I can help with. 01:21:56.450 --> 01:22:04.418 - Thank you so much. It was a nice comprehensive review. Really appreciate it. And I know it's not always 01:22:04.418 --> 01:22:12.080 - easy getting state legislation into our CDO in a timely manner and also in a clear manner. So thank 01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:20.049 - you for that. Do you have any questions? No, I just appreciate, again, all of the detailed descriptions 01:22:20.049 --> 01:22:22.654 - and especially with the graphics. 01:22:22.882 --> 01:22:31.196 - I said this before, but I'm enthralled with sort of the fall zone of the towers. So thank you. Yeah. 01:22:31.196 --> 01:22:36.958 - And normally I would go to the petitioner and whatnot, but that's us. 01:22:37.058 --> 01:22:50.045 - the state legislature and ask questions because I'd love to do that. Um but let's just go ahead and 01:22:50.045 --> 01:23:01.214 - open this up for public comment and see if anyone has any. Comments pro or con on the 01:23:03.650 --> 01:23:11.844 - you did such a great job explaining them is Nestor Jelen that look at that. We're good. All right. Um, 01:23:11.844 --> 01:23:20.038 - and with that, I will come back to the board. Um, do you have any other comments? Nope. Okay. Um, then 01:23:20.038 --> 01:23:28.312 - I will call the roll on, um, I'm sorry. I will call for a vote on ordinance 2026-39. All those in favor 01:23:28.312 --> 01:23:30.142 - signify by saying aye. 01:23:30.722 --> 01:23:39.726 - second. I motion carries to zero. Um, next, please. Next item, please. Yes, I'd like to move approval 01:23:39.726 --> 01:23:49.259 - forward. It's 2026-40. The Western estates zoning error rezone to the community development or to community 01:23:49.259 --> 01:23:58.263 - development. Sorry. That's all right. It's a strange word. It's a strange phrase. I will second that. 01:23:58.263 --> 01:24:00.382 - Um and once again, the. 01:24:00.610 --> 01:24:11.627 - residents. Thank you. Absolutely. So this is a Plan Commission author rezone. We have been contacted 01:24:11.627 --> 01:24:23.188 - by the owners of the property in regards to the allowable uses at these two parcel sites. There's address 01:24:23.188 --> 01:24:27.006 - is 1530 and 1540 South Curry Pike. 01:24:27.106 --> 01:24:34.229 - And in reviewing the research for the PUD, which is Western Estates, something that was approved by 01:24:34.229 --> 01:24:41.352 - the city of Bloomington. And then once the extraterritorial jurisdiction lapsed, something that the 01:24:41.352 --> 01:24:48.475 - county has taken administration duties over for, we noticed that this was incorrectly zoned PUD. So 01:24:48.475 --> 01:24:54.814 - in order to facilitate the request, which is what are my allowable uses on the property, 01:24:55.010 --> 01:25:02.028 - The Plan Commission is authoring a rezone of the property from PUD, and what is being requested today 01:25:02.028 --> 01:25:08.909 - is to rezone it to what's called community development. I'll go through some of the report here for 01:25:08.909 --> 01:25:16.065 - you, but I also want to note that in consideration of the zoning for this property, the Plan Commission 01:25:16.065 --> 01:25:23.358 - cited that it was within the Sinking Creek Critical Watershed, there was a difference in impervious cover 01:25:23.618 --> 01:25:30.353 - area for what was considered the two zones that they were between, which was community development and 01:25:30.353 --> 01:25:37.350 - then high development. The community development allows lesser impervious cover than the high development. 01:25:37.350 --> 01:25:43.888 - And then there's also Ludway that's on part of the Western portion of the property. So I'm going to 01:25:43.888 --> 01:25:50.558 - go ahead and go down to the packet now. So the property owner is online. They may have some comments. 01:25:50.722 --> 01:25:57.839 - Um, as it regards to this petition, but the plan commission is the author, so they would be under either 01:25:57.839 --> 01:26:05.092 - supporters or demonstrators to request. I want to note that the owners do oppose the community development 01:26:05.092 --> 01:26:11.870 - zoning district, so they may be here to speak and ask to instead be zone high development. So this. 01:26:12.034 --> 01:26:22.904 - We did have some questions back and forth for them and it recorded what's the current use of the property, 01:26:22.904 --> 01:26:33.470 - what are potential buyers wanting to use it for all this in consideration of what site constraints are. 01:26:33.730 --> 01:26:41.039 - 1530 South Curry Pike has a single family residence and a swimming pool. 1540 South Curry Pike has a 01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:48.493 - single family residence plus a garage with what we're understanding as an apartment above. The acreage 01:26:48.493 --> 01:26:55.150 - for both sites combined is 2.96 acres and they do currently have access to sewer and water. 01:26:55.150 --> 01:27:01.374 - And like I said, we did talk with the property owner about what buyers are saying and 01:27:01.602 --> 01:27:08.454 - There was one buyer that wanted to rent the property and remodel, do it just as is. And then another 01:27:08.454 --> 01:27:15.578 - buyer who wanted to knock down structures and rebuild as multifamily. So I've included information about 01:27:15.578 --> 01:27:22.634 - the community development zone here on the screen, as well as high development. The property is located 01:27:22.634 --> 01:27:29.419 - nearest the Carrs Farm Greenway. And then also there's a manufactured home park on the western side 01:27:29.419 --> 01:27:31.454 - as you go back on Sierra dry. 01:27:32.578 --> 01:27:39.063 - And the highway department, including the stormwater program did not have any comments, but they did 01:27:39.063 --> 01:27:45.740 - know, you know, if this does go through a development review, they would highway would like to continue 01:27:45.740 --> 01:27:52.353 - to see the access for the driveways off of era. And then stormwater was going to consider any drainage 01:27:52.353 --> 01:27:59.158 - easements, cars, conservancy areas, or anything related upon review of a development plan, if applicable, 01:27:59.158 --> 01:28:01.598 - or if proceeded to go that direction. 01:28:02.562 --> 01:28:09.231 - Here's a zoning map of the surrounding area. The site to the north is zoned community development. I 01:28:09.231 --> 01:28:15.967 - will note that some of these lots are a little bit smaller than the community development minimum lot 01:28:15.967 --> 01:28:22.768 - size, which is 0.21 acres. And then you also have to the east here, the BMV has across the street. You 01:28:22.768 --> 01:28:26.334 - have heavy industrial, light industrial to the south. 01:28:26.594 --> 01:28:33.095 - high development and then southwest conservation residential. So you have quite a bit of mixture of 01:28:33.095 --> 01:28:39.727 - zones here, as well as being close to the city jurisdiction. Here's a site conditions map showing the 01:28:39.727 --> 01:28:46.553 - water and sewer lines connecting the properties. And there are multifamily developments, as I mentioned, 01:28:46.553 --> 01:28:50.974 - to the south and then a manufactured home park to the west of this. 01:28:51.650 --> 01:28:59.072 - Zooming out, you can really see the floodway here. There's a bridge that crosses the floodway, but it 01:28:59.072 --> 01:29:06.349 - is mapped DNR floodway. And then also the property in relation to the Sinking Creek watershed. It's 01:29:06.349 --> 01:29:10.206 - totally within the red, which is Sinking Creek here. 01:29:11.426 --> 01:29:17.098 - I wanted to pull up on the screen to the use table differences for community development and 01:29:17.098 --> 01:29:23.258 - high development. There are some uses that are allowable, such as multifamily dwelling three to four 01:29:23.258 --> 01:29:29.358 - units would be permitted with standards for both zones. And five plus units would only be permitted 01:29:29.358 --> 01:29:35.701 - with standards in the high development zone. But I did want to note that under either multifamily three 01:29:35.701 --> 01:29:40.702 - to four units or five plus, it does say that the site shall have access to sewer. 01:29:40.866 --> 01:29:48.880 - In our workings with the owner, we were not able to obtain or they did not obtain the sewer capacity 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:57.290 - increase letter from CBU. So we do not yet know if CBU would have even authorized an increase of capacity 01:29:57.290 --> 01:29:58.718 - to allow for such 01:29:59.010 --> 01:30:05.019 - intense development to occur on the property. That's something that's not in our control, but it is 01:30:05.019 --> 01:30:11.088 - a standard. Also in the state code, you cannot have an apartment building on a commercial septic. So 01:30:11.088 --> 01:30:17.097 - they would have to have access to sewer to redevelop this at a high density. I've also included the 01:30:17.097 --> 01:30:23.346 - comprehensive plan for the area, which meets both the community development and high development zoning 01:30:23.346 --> 01:30:26.110 - districts. And then as well, for your review, 01:30:26.242 --> 01:30:33.837 - findings as associated with the rezone itself. So in our review, working with the owner, you know, the 01:30:33.837 --> 01:30:40.769 - site conditions here, community development will accommodate what is there and also give them 01:30:40.769 --> 01:30:47.774 - some permissions to move forward with different development if they, if a buyer does decide to 01:30:47.906 --> 01:30:55.840 - say knock down structures and do something different here. This is some site photos of the current property. 01:30:55.840 --> 01:31:03.191 - So 1530 South Curry Pike, as well as the swimming pool. And then just some street view images of the 01:31:03.191 --> 01:31:10.543 - site. So you get a sense of Sierra Drive, what's to the south. And then this is the 1540 South Curry 01:31:10.543 --> 01:31:14.910 - Pike as well. And then just an overview of House Pool 1530. 01:31:15.010 --> 01:31:22.665 - house garage with apartment over top 1540. So that is basically the summary that we have of these two 01:31:22.665 --> 01:31:30.470 - petitions or two parcels being rezoned to community development. And I'd be happy to take any questions 01:31:30.470 --> 01:31:38.350 - you might have. All right, thank you so much. Do you have any questions for Ms. Nestergallen? No, again, 01:31:38.350 --> 01:31:41.502 - thank you for that detailed presentation. 01:31:43.970 --> 01:31:56.228 - I appreciate it. Um and, um, the planning department is petitioner, but I will go ahead and open this 01:31:56.228 --> 01:32:08.606 - up to see if anybody. Wishes to speak in favor or against this petition, and it looks like we have. Um 01:32:09.954 --> 01:32:18.793 - name together. DC is how it's coming up on the screen. If you could please give us your name, county 01:32:18.793 --> 01:32:27.633 - of residence, and you'll have three minutes. Hi, this is Shelley and Deb Clark. Deborah is the owner 01:32:27.633 --> 01:32:36.472 - of the property. We have been working with CBU to try to get some response from them in order to see 01:32:36.472 --> 01:32:39.710 - what their opinion is of the sewage. 01:32:39.810 --> 01:32:52.566 - We have yet to hear back from them. We're hoping that we can get something that can help the owner raise 01:32:52.566 --> 01:33:03.742 - the zoning to HD. Due to the price in the property, it's going to lower the value $140,000. 01:33:04.770 --> 01:33:14.187 - that's not a big deal to you. That might not be a big deal to you, but it is to a senior citizen who's 01:33:14.187 --> 01:33:23.605 - living on limited income right now. Um, so that's. What I have is an update right now. Or what we have 01:33:23.605 --> 01:33:29.182 - is a big day. Okay, I appreciate that. Thank you. Um so, um, 01:33:29.442 --> 01:33:55.902 - that happened. Um but. I would I would say that what the plant commission. Determined is that based on the 01:33:56.002 --> 01:34:13.461 - And I apologize that we didn't do it right the first time. Now. This does allow you to come back and 01:34:13.461 --> 01:34:19.166 - seek an HD zone. Um and I think. 01:34:19.266 --> 01:34:27.550 - the question of sewer is key. But you can come back and ask for an HD zone. It does not prevent you 01:34:27.550 --> 01:34:35.917 - from doing that at all. And I encourage you to do that if everything works out the way that you plan 01:34:35.917 --> 01:34:43.870 - and that you hope. I think that would be fine. And we'll, you know, the planning commission and 01:34:43.970 --> 01:34:51.950 - the commissioners will make a decision at that time, but it raises so many questions in terms of density 01:34:51.950 --> 01:34:59.930 - and neighboring properties and the sinking Creek watershed that that as a planning commission, we didn't 01:34:59.930 --> 01:35:03.198 - feel comfortable going ultra high density. 01:35:03.394 --> 01:35:13.910 - without knowing, for example, about sewer. But I do encourage you to do that, and that will get your 01:35:13.910 --> 01:35:24.530 - selling price back, I would assume. So let's see if there's anyone else that has any public comments, 01:35:24.530 --> 01:35:28.382 - either for or against this petition. 01:35:34.274 --> 01:35:42.608 - questions. So I have one more question. Okay We can't We can't really take questions here, but I do 01:35:42.608 --> 01:35:51.525 - recommend that you contact the planning department if you have questions. This is a This is a specifically 01:35:51.525 --> 01:35:59.859 - a public comment time. Um and um, but I know the planning staff. Is eager to help you and will help 01:35:59.859 --> 01:36:02.526 - you with whatever questions you 01:36:03.106 --> 01:36:12.868 - we have a petition in front of us that's enclosed and total and done. So that's the position we're in. 01:36:12.868 --> 01:36:22.629 - But again, I encourage you to come back with a petition for HD if that's something you want to pursue, 01:36:22.629 --> 01:36:33.054 - I think it's worth doing. All right. So did you, I'm sorry, did you have any comments? Oh no, I'm good. Okay. 01:36:33.986 --> 01:36:47.280 - public comment. All right, so, um. We'll go ahead and close out the public comment at this point, 01:36:47.280 --> 01:37:01.659 - and I will. Um call for a vote on ordinance 2026-40. The Western estates zoning error rezone to community 01:37:01.659 --> 01:37:03.422 - development. 01:37:03.522 --> 01:37:16.508 - property. Um and at least this gets you out of the P U D, where you really shouldn't have been and put 01:37:16.508 --> 01:37:29.493 - you on the path to doing what you want to do with the property. Um okay. Um, something that we did not 01:37:29.493 --> 01:37:31.006 - do, um. Um. 01:37:31.330 --> 01:37:41.891 - I would say that if we're not going to have a vote to accept it, which that's fine, I would say that 01:37:41.891 --> 01:37:52.662 - I would like to note that we have received it, and we appreciated the explanation by Dr. Clements. And 01:37:52.662 --> 01:37:58.622 - I will ask that it is published on the county's website. 01:37:58.722 --> 01:38:06.286 - as soon as it possibly can be. It is part of the packet for tonight's meeting, which is a Planning Commission 01:38:06.286 --> 01:38:13.437 - meeting, but it is a Planning Commission meeting with a very special purpose. We have, and so I'm gonna 01:38:13.437 --> 01:38:20.381 - leave it like that. Is that all right? Jeff, did I manage? Did I get anything? I think that works. I 01:38:20.381 --> 01:38:27.326 - think what we'll end up doing for the public's sake is we will look at the meeting packet for today. 01:38:27.554 --> 01:38:35.322 - you know, if you're looking for a place where you would look for the commissions and we'll just put 01:38:35.322 --> 01:38:43.168 - an exhibit one. This study as part of it's a link. It's a link, so it's easy. Yeah, that'd be great. 01:38:43.168 --> 01:38:51.712 - Thank you. All right. Um so we do have a plan commission me tonight. We have one short item at the beginning, 01:38:51.712 --> 01:38:56.606 - but then very soon after 5 30 when it begins right here in the 01:38:56.738 --> 01:39:07.270 - the county development ordinance. The city is doing likewise. They're doing some changes to their UDO, 01:39:07.270 --> 01:39:18.006 - and they're going to do their hearing at the same time, I guess. So under House Enrolled Act 1001, there 01:39:18.006 --> 01:39:25.982 - are specific questions that they want us to answer. And people are welcome to 01:39:26.434 --> 01:39:36.282 - that we're going to submit, um, responses. To the states. Um the state's going to. Post I guess all 01:39:36.282 --> 01:39:46.524 - of our reports, but we've asked is remember a few weeks ago. We asked the, um plan commissioned to hold 01:39:46.524 --> 01:39:55.486 - this hearing for us on our behalf, which I appreciate that they're doing that, but we both 01:39:56.994 --> 01:40:05.201 - questions. They're questions are all in the planning packets, which is available. If you go to the calendar 01:40:05.201 --> 01:40:12.876 - on our home page, you can go to the Planning Commission meeting. You can see the packet. You see the 01:40:12.876 --> 01:40:20.551 - questions. They're very specific questions that are being asked, um, for the public to consider. Um. 01:40:20.551 --> 01:40:24.958 - And, um, some of the things have absolutely nothing to do 01:40:25.282 --> 01:40:32.088 - of rules, you know, just for example. So, and what planning staff has done, and especially 01:40:32.088 --> 01:40:39.791 - Ms. Nestor-Gellant, is sort of addressed for each of the questions the state has posed, what is in the 01:40:39.791 --> 01:40:47.269 - CDO that relates to it. So you don't have to go flying through the CDO and try to find the relevant 01:40:47.269 --> 01:40:49.438 - sections. You're going to be 01:40:49.570 --> 01:40:57.936 - you're going to be right there. And you're going to see what the regulations are. And so we are looking 01:40:57.936 --> 01:41:06.060 - forward. It's not a back and forth tonight. It is going to be a hearing meeting. We're just going to 01:41:06.060 --> 01:41:14.425 - hear from residents. So we do invite, um, residents to attend and you can attend via teams or come here 01:41:14.425 --> 01:41:18.206 - to the Net, you know, room. At about 5 35. Um, 01:41:19.810 --> 01:41:28.269 - I just want to make sure we made the announcement. Great. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. 01:41:28.269 --> 01:41:36.892 - So I do want to, as we go through announcements here, I do want to remind folks of a couple of important 01:41:36.892 --> 01:41:45.351 - things. And one of them is that October is hunger action month. And the Hoosierhills Food Bank and all 01:41:45.351 --> 01:41:47.486 - of the ancillary pantries 01:41:47.650 --> 01:41:55.899 - and food distribution sites around our county need your help. And we are all struggling with higher 01:41:55.899 --> 01:42:04.643 - food prices. So please do what you can. The book fair was amazing. It reminded me of working as a cashier 01:42:04.643 --> 01:42:12.975 - during holiday season. It was pretty crazy, but it was fun. Saw a lot of great friends and neighbors 01:42:12.975 --> 01:42:17.182 - and met new people, and it was really a good time. 01:42:17.634 --> 01:42:28.596 - for those who are less fortunate. But please keep those who are less fortunate in mind. Especially during 01:42:28.596 --> 01:42:39.765 - hunger action month. Um. The other thing I want to remind folks of I saw very. Pretty surprising statistic, 01:42:39.765 --> 01:42:46.590 - which is one in six U. S. Households are behind on utility bills. 01:42:46.722 --> 01:42:53.884 - in Texas and Oklahoma, their numbers must be much higher. Now, utility companies are barred 01:42:53.884 --> 01:43:01.903 - from disconnecting service during summer and during winter, but during the fall and during the spring, 01:43:01.903 --> 01:43:07.742 - they can and often do disconnect. So I just want you, if you know anybody, 01:43:08.546 --> 01:43:16.299 - If you yourself are behind, please reach out to your Township Trustee. In every packet, we have the 01:43:16.299 --> 01:43:24.053 - email address and the phone number to reach your Township Trustee, and they can help you. So please 01:43:24.053 --> 01:43:29.790 - don't wait. Please reach out. Don't let this become a critical situation. 01:43:30.626 --> 01:43:38.428 - Let's see, we have another blood drive in conjunction with Red Cross and Ivy Tech, and it is Friday, 01:43:38.428 --> 01:43:46.306 - October 30th, 9 a.m. to 2 p.m., and that is at Ivy Tech, room C130A and B. Please make an appointment 01:43:46.306 --> 01:43:54.108 - at redcross.org if you can. We already talked about the alert system and how important it is to sign 01:43:54.108 --> 01:43:56.734 - up, whether it be a boil order or 01:43:56.930 --> 01:44:06.026 - we're heading into those times. Um road closures, anything like that gets put on Everbridge, and this 01:44:06.026 --> 01:44:15.123 - is for every county resident. No matter where you live, please sign up. We really encourage you to do 01:44:15.123 --> 01:44:24.130 - so. Be informed. Be prepared. We do continue to have office hours via teams each month. Um and there 01:44:24.130 --> 01:44:26.270 - are six office hours in 01:44:26.402 --> 01:44:35.370 - and check out the dates and times, and we encourage you to join us via Teams to offer your insight, 01:44:35.370 --> 01:44:44.427 - your criticism, your ideas, whatever it may be. So let's see, belated happy birthday to Commissioner 01:44:44.427 --> 01:44:51.422 - Madeira. Oh, thank you. I think that's all I have. Do you have anything else? 01:44:51.842 --> 01:45:00.529 - I'm sorry. Um no, I will apologize for my disruptive nose glowing. I had some kind of histamine reaction 01:45:00.529 --> 01:45:09.133 - up here. Um, where I just turned into a faucet for a second. Um I would say I echo all of your concerns 01:45:09.133 --> 01:45:10.622 - about the utility 01:45:11.010 --> 01:45:19.378 - you can actually pay so that people who don't have the funds can defer those. And so I try to do that 01:45:19.378 --> 01:45:27.665 - every month as well. That's important. Yes. But the township trustees, I think, are an underutilized 01:45:27.665 --> 01:45:35.951 - resource across the state. So I think that was an excellent point to bring up. Thank you. All right. 01:45:35.951 --> 01:45:37.182 - And with that, 01:45:37.634 --> 01:45:44.229 - Our next meeting is October 29th, right here in the NETU Hill Room at 10 a.m. And with that, 01:45:44.229 --> 01:45:46.782 - we are adjourned. Thanks, everyone.