I'm going to call to order this meeting of Monroe County Board of Commissioners work session.
 It is Thursday, March 27th. I'll note for the record that Commissioner Madera and myself are
 present and Commissioner Jones is not present today. We have an item on our published agenda
 regarding karst farm athletic complex improvements and dirt.
 Well, and I have here Greg Nettleton from Stormwater. He was on a site visit yesterday.
 We had Lisa Ridge, we had Erica there from Stormwater, we had our engineers, we had our
 vendor for things for the soil that is being removed from fields 9, 11, and 12. We have more
 soil than we anticipated because we have to get down to the clay, so we have a hard surface for
 the carpet. And we are out of places to put that soil at karst farm park. We have stashed it
 everywhere, but we are out. And it was suggested that there is room between karst farm park and
 the highway garage. There's a field there. I think sent you an email that says that she has
 no problems with depositing the soil over there. So we're asking the commissioner's approval to
 deposit soil over there permanently pending approval from planning and stormwater. And Greg's
 here if you have a stormwater question about that. It will be feathered out. The design will be
 made.
 It will be approved by hopefully stormwater. And we'll go about our business. But it's your
 property.
 And if not, we're going to have to truck it somewhere, which I don't have the money to do.
 And it is, it's good soil. So I assume that if we needed it for something, we could.
 I mean, I don't know your definition of good soil.
 Meaning, meaning not.
 It's not contaminated.
 It's not contaminated.
 No.
 There you go.
 It has a little clay in it and whatnot. I wouldn't put it on an athletic field.
 I hear that. All right. So, so they're all in favor of using that space.
 Do you have any questions?
 No, it's the most expeditious and affordable way of dealing with this.
 So with it, I don't, you know, I don't know.
 I do have another topic after we talk about this same, same subject.
 Mr. Cockrell, do we need to do a vote on this?
 I don't, but I would just let you know that I've asked them to let me know when they know the
 volume
 and things like that to see if that, and I also think I'll talk to Richard to see if there may
 be other, other areas where we need soil.
 Keeping in mind that you'll have to truck it then, and that costs money.
 No, of course, but we've got these things at a highway department that can move soil.
 And I speak for the highway department.
 I got you.
 Okay, back to you.
 Do you need a vote, Jeff?
 What did you say?
 I think that if they say you can do it, I'm not sure they need a
 Yes.
 Yes, I'm a yes.
 I also have something that's related.
 Okay.
 Is field 12 is the farthest back field.
 There's a railroad, and then there's a farm field that the airport owns.
 And unbeknownst to us, they're having horrible erosion problems.
 And this last rain that happened about a few weeks ago with the snow and the melt and all that
 stuff,
 we had a sediment flow, okay, that we did not anticipate.
 So our engineer is now designing a soil sediment basin catcher.
 And we're redoing our ditch and doing everything we can do on our end,
 because we cannot have soil on our new turf.
 Okay. And at the same time, the airport is also doing a erosion mitigation plan.
 But unfortunately, it all wiped out during that last storm.
 Hopefully, they'll keep up on that.
 But the park board met last night, and this was all due respect.
 They have voted to pay for all this because we want to protect our investment.
 But they also asked me to ask you, in the airport,
 if you wanted to donate any funds, since they believe this wasn't our fault.
 And we did not calculate this in our-- we will go over budget.
 But they're going to cover it, because they want to keep the project moving.
 But they said, please just ask respectfully.
 Here's what I'm thinking, since Jeff's here and he regularly attends airport board meetings.
 I think this is something the airport board-- and maybe if we could get Mr. Nels or Ms. Penna,
 somebody there with you to talk through the situation and what the airport board can do
 purchase-wise to stop this, because I'm not sure their mitigation plan is really all about we can't
 let the sentiment into Carson Park. I don't think that's their goal. It's not their goal.
 I'm going to tell you that right now. So what we need to do is have that discussion
 at an airport board meeting. What do you think?
 I think that the airport board has authority over the airport land, and so I think if it's coming
 from the airport board, it should be discussed with them. And so probably I would touch base
 with Carlos first. Oh, yes. Yeah. I would wait to talk to him this morning. He doesn't sound to be
 the healthiest fellow in the world. Oh, it's no rush. Yeah. So yeah, I think having a conversation
 with the airport board, maybe even a conversation with Carlos first to kind of understand what
 they're doing out there with their -- my memory is that we're not really touching a lot of those
 fields, which sounds like where it's coming. We're kind of -- aviation, airway-based. But I'm
 wondering if our stormwater department could come up with some short-term assistance in terms of
 advice. Okay. This fencing will help you. This berm will help you. Certainly. We'd be more than
 happy
 to work with them on advice. Yeah, I think that would be really useful. And if you could say like,
 oh, it's going to cost you like 10 grand to do this, but this will help until we get this basin in,
 or whatever the answer is. Y'all work together great. Just I think you should work on this together.
 Oh, we will. The park board just wanted me to mention it to you.
 I appreciate that. And I think you're smart to ask that question because it is -- this is an issue,
 and I'm going to get off track here for a second, but so please forgive me in advance. But this is
 the issue that we have in Monroe County. We have drainage areas that are not draining well. We --
 because of development, because -- and now we have a legislature that wants to tell us
 that we shouldn't be addressing stormwater at all, because my gosh, it just doesn't matter.
 It can't be that bad, can it? Well, this is an example. I mean, but this could be somebody's
 home. It could be somebody's basement. Please leave us alone, legislature. Anyway, I digress,
 as always. So I think that stormwater parks and airport can come up with a really good solution.
 But we're always here if there's something we can do to help. We don't have any money,
 but if we can help with anything else, let us know. Absolutely fine. And the park board does
 appreciate everything the commissioners have done in the past and in the future. So it was a
 respectful request. Oh, it's -- I'm -- kudos to them. Tell them I said thank you for asking.
 I will. Yeah, yeah. But Jeff will be a big help for you as well, because he can get something
 on the agenda since he attends those meetings. And that will be very useful for you, I think.
 You can still do more than stormwater thoughts and prayers. Okay.
 Do you need anything else? Thank you for letting us use your property for soil deposits,
 permanent soil deposits. And if someone asks you, because I guess someone just asked me just a few
 minutes ago, they'll notice there is a soil deposit at Carson Farm Park that looks really big and
 long. And they wonder, like, what are you doing? Well, we're stationed everywhere we can find.
 But we're going to probably turn that into an ADA path. So, you know, it looks like -- I'm not sure.
 It looks like a really big hill and mound. But once we start to do this and we can get the right
 grade at some point, we will make an ADA up to that parking lot. So it's all good in the end. It
 just looks bizarre. Just don't come back in the next couple years and say we need to buy soil.
 That's all I'm going to ask. We've never been -- I don't think we've ever done that.
 And the place that we're going to put the soil, we've used before,
 like 10 years ago. It's been really low. Oh, why am I here? Well, actually, it's the same topic.
 And I won't be here forever. And one request that soccer parents and athletic parents make
 continually is a second exit out of Carson Farm Park. And the only logical place to go is from
 Carson Farm Park, somewhere on the Fairgrounds Highway Department, to that road. No one wants to
 do that in that group that I just said. But someday, because probably Joanne may know that
 on a Saturday, you could get stuck there for 45 minutes. Oh, yeah. But anyway, I digress,
 and you might want to think about it for the next 10 years. Thank you. That's going to help. Yeah,
 so we'll work on that. Using the kind of the access to the garage that your people use,
 because there's one that comes off the, what is it, Enright Road there? You said people. What
 people?
 Your staff. Our staff. There's a driveway that comes up and goes kind of behind
 fields one and two, and it just kind of ends at that garage. Is that what that?
 Do you mean west, not field one and two, like field 12, field 11?
 Just north, yeah, just north of fields one and two, there's a kind of a gravel drive that seems
 to go back to where it goes right back to the parking lot to your maintenance. Yeah, but see,
 you're, you're, you're loading off on the same road. Okay.
 And it goes, well, anywho, but here in here, here's, here's the engineers configure this.
 Yeah, exactly. Mr. Ayers was here earlier, I would say have a little chit chat with him about
 whether that is a possibility, but I do, you know, in terms of, well, there's already a driveway
 cut,
 but I'm not familiar with where you're talking about. I know what you're talking about,
 but basically you're dropping off on the same road. Yeah, it would be the same road, but it would
 also.
 Maybe it would be an exit point. People in the back of the park want to exit
 westerly. Right, right, right. Toward Ellensville. Right, but if it's 45 minutes or get
 out of Kershaw Park, I think they'll just, right? If their other option is to sit for 45 minutes
 so they can go west, I think they would just take whatever exit was available.
 We have one. Right, yeah. Now, I'll just tell you this before this comes up.
 The Fair Board has been very gracious in letting us go through their property for tournaments
 and maybe some big Saturday days. We don't want to wear our welcome out
 because once we go onto their property, people could drive all over their buildings and stuff.
 So we're grateful for all that they have given us, but that's not a permanent solution.
 And I think that I know that we allow the Fair Board access during this winter when they had the
 lights where they're accessing through the highway, kind of go on the back way.
 So it sounds like we may have something that we can negotiate with, if you will.
 Let's work on that. It's just a problem that's been coming up and it won't go away.
 So it'll get even better because we're going to be so packed. So not a bad problem to have.
 Do you need anything else? I think that's all I can think of.
 No, I think we're good. Thank you.
 Thank you. Thank you all.
 Thank you. Thanks for being here. Mr. Cockrell.
 I have two kind of updates. One is I'm pleased to say that we have executed the deeds for
 the center, properties themselves, and those properties east of College Avenue in that area
 to the Capital Improvement Board. They have been signed, not recorded. I have them in my office
 because we needed the Capital Improvement Board to sign off on the sales disclosure form
 and they did that yesterday, but I didn't get back before 4 p.m. to get those recorded. So
 happy to say that that is moving. The other thing is at Tuesday night's council meeting,
 we had made a request to them to help to fund a study by Baker Tilly involving the beam blossom
 Steinsville fire protection and the council did approve that
 contract for that to be on your agenda the next week. Okay, thank you.
 All right, good. We're good. Done. All right, excellent. With that, we adjourned. Our next
 meeting is April 3rd right here in the NetYahoo room. Thanks, everyone. Thank you, Katz. Thank
 you, TSD. Get well soon, Greg, and we're out.
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