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-  I'm going to call to order this work session the Monroe County Board of Commissioners. It is

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-  Thursday, April 10th. We have

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-  Two items on our work session agenda

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-  Mr. Myers and mr. Smith

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-  The first being I see mr. Myers online the first being ordinance 2025 - 11

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-  Thank you, can you hear me? All right, we sure can thank you. Good morning. Okay, great

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-  Just a quick correction. This is our easy - 25 - one

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-  And this is the Sunset Hill rezoned

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-  100 parcels to be rezoned from high development residential to residential one

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-  so I will go through the

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-  Report here that's included in the packet and then at the formal session whenever the commissioners

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-  select to have that heard

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-  I will have a presentation with the PowerPoint to be presented at that time

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-  so

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-  Let's begin

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-  So this went through the Planning Commission process

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-  it went through the administrative meetings as well as the formal session of the Planning

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-  Commission and

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-  As a summary of what this petition is about is the Monroe County Board Commissioners

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-  Requested to rezone approximately 100 parcels from high development residential to residential one

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-  rationale provided by the commissioners relates to the selected area exhibiting the established

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-  neighborhoods with the majority of homes utilizing septic systems the presence of

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-  karst and sinkhole features in the area and the recently approved historic preservation overlay

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-  that was granted to

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-  25 parcels of this subject area as I stated it's approximately 100 parcels totaling about

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-  64.44 acres in this section under REZ - 25 - 1

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-  It's in section 6 of Perry Township and there's a address list and included in the packet that has

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-  table one as the title

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-  Those are all the part properties that will be addressed under this rezone

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-  The petition sites are all currently zoned high development residential per the county development

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-  ordinance

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-  Which was approved by the county commissioners on December 18th, 2024. That was ordinance number 20

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-  24 - 61

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-  As a part of that approval the commissioners requested planning staff to begin a rezone of the area

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-  shown

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-  In this report

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-  Within county jurisdiction from that new high development residential zone to residential one or

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-  RES

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-  So as a bit of history this these properties that are included in this portion of the packet

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-  Under REZ - 25 - 1 we're all part of the former fringe areas of the city

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-  Of Bloomington's planning and planning and zoning jurisdiction. Excuse me until that interlocal

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-  agreement ended in the in

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-  2011 and there was a mix of different zones throughout this portion of the of the

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-  County under Sunset Hill neighborhoods

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-  that had different

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-  Classifications under that 1997 cities zoning districts or the former fringe areas as we called

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-  them

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-  so as part of the CDO these areas were all

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-  blanket rezoned to high development residential and as I said before the

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-  Board of Commissioners after that initial approval of that CDO

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-  stated that they would like to see a rezone happen for this area as well as

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-  Rez - 25 - 2 & 3 which fellow planner Sean will address during his

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-  Presentation and you will note that a lot of the information from both of our reports are very

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-  similar because they are both

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-  Going from high development residential to residential one. So information that's regarding HD to

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-  RES

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-  Will be the same the main differences between the two

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-  Petitions here today is that the Sunset Hill area contains properties that are also

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-  Designated as historic preservation with the overlay and then in Sean's there are

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-  Several properties that have multifamily uses currently operating on them

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-  Whereas this particular petition the Sunset Hill petition only has one property that's exhibiting

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-  in the pre-existing

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-  Multifamily use which you can see on the screen. These are the properties listed 717 South Analee

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-  Lane through

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-  725 South Analee Lane

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-  Those are all on one parcel and they're all

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-  As you have multiple residences on one parcel, it's considered a multifamily use. So actually

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-  the one of the conditions of approval that was set by the Plan Commission and planning staff for

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-  this particular petition is that

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-  This particular property that's operating as multifamily be excluded from the rezone

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-  Because we would basically be creating a zone that's more non-compliant with its current use of

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-  multifamily on this particular parcel

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-  We'll come back to that at the end with the full recommendation from the planning staff and the

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-  Planning Commission's

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-  recommendation as well

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-  So here is the location map. These are all the highlighted parcels for the Sunset Hill

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-  Rezone under this particular petition. You'll note that they're all zoned HD high-development

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-  residential

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-  and this is a West Bloomfield Road off to the south and

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-  West third streets up here to the north. It's kind of cut off from the map and then you have the

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-  course

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-  South Corrie Lane that cuts through this property

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-  But these properties, excuse me

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-  This is that table one that lists all of the property owners and their addresses that are impacted

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-  by this rezone

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-  And then on the far right column you'll see acreage and I highlighted all the parcels that are

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-  going to be above

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-  the one acre minimum lot size that is required for the

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-  RES zone

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-  now

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-  RES zone is a particular zoning district. It does have a minimum lot size requirement of one acre.

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-  However

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-  It does have provisions in within the code that allow for properties to be under one acre

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-  As long as other design standards can be met. So it's not such a strong

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-  Threshold as it can be in other zoning districts when it comes to the minimum lot size

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-  But it is worth noting that there are only a few properties that are above that threshold

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-  technically speaking

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-  But again as long as other

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-  You know design standards are met. There is no issue with minimum lot size

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-  and in fact

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-  If there were an issue with minimum lot size because maybe you can't meet a setback requirement

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-  The planning department would only require that variance procedure for the setback not the minimum

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-  lot size

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-  So it's just more or less an informative piece of information

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-  and this column here is to give you an idea of the scope and the

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-  the

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-  The range of lot sizes that are within this

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-  area

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-  So you can see a couple of them here highlighted that are above that one acre

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-  threshold

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-  I'm just going to keep scrolling. There's a few more here

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-  And we can come back to that table if needed

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-  Here is the zoning map

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-  As you can see the hatched parcels are the ones that receive the historic preservation overlay

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-  That was also adopted in december of last year, specifically december 18th

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-  And the historic preservation overlay does not impact the underlying zoning district

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-  It just allows for a flexibility of uses through the activation of the historic adaptive reuse

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-  classification that can allow for certain properties that are under that overlay to

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-  Have a bit more flexibility in what they kind of have what uses that are allowed on their property

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-  They do have to go through the historic preservation board review for the certificate of appropriateness

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-  if they need to do any sort of exterior changes

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-  or additions to their homes because that is part of the

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-  Historic preservation overlay to kind of maintain that character of the properties in some of the

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-  neighborhood area as well

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-  So if you have any questions about sort of preservation overlay we can come back to that

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-  this section of the packet now talks about the

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-  District characters between the residential one district and the high development residential

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-  district

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-  So I won't read all this verbatim because it is in the packet, but it does provide a district

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-  character and a purpose

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-  For each of those districts for reference

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-  And then here on the bottom of this page. I went ahead and noted that the res zone

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-  Contains 26 permitted uses and 10 conditional uses

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-  Conditional uses meaning that it goes to the board of zoning appeals

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-  At a public hearing and then must meet all of its conditions in order to receive approval

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-  And then the hd zone contains 28 permitted uses and seven conditional uses

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-  Now on the screen, um is a breakdown of those permitted uses

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-  As well as the conditional uses that are available in each of these districts. So starting with

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-  residential one. I highlighted the

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-  Uses the land use classifications that are different than the other

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-  Zoning district or the hd district if there's an asterisk. It means that there are standards that

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-  are included in the

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-  Zoning or zoning ordinance that those standards must be met or they can potentially apply for a

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-  variance to a particular standard if they can't meet them

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-  So, um, you'll see here agricultural traditional roadside stand temporary accessory dwelling units

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-  and attached and detached

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-  Residential storage structure are all uses that are permitted in the res zone that are not

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-  permitted in the hd zone or perhaps they're in the conditional use section instead

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-  Conditional uses for the res zone two family dwelling child care center collection container

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-  facility artisan crafts food and or beverage production and cafe slash coffee shop

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-  Moving on to the hd zone. You'll note that multifamily dwellings are permitted in this district and

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-  they did not appear in the former

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-  So we have multifamily dwellings three to four units, multifamily dwellings five plus units, senior

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-  housing, single family attached dwellings three to five units

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-  Two family dwelling is now in the permitted section instead of the conditional section and child

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-  care center

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-  Then in conditional uses we have firearm sales retail sales small scale so we can come back to any

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-  of those differences with respect to the use uses permitted in each district if we have questions

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-  Next is the design standards tables another comparison here between the res zone and the hd zone

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-  So the minimum lot widths change a little bit minimum lot size as I stated before maximum and

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-  previous cover does change as well as the setbacks so side and rear yard setbacks this should be

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-  highlighted excuse me for that oversight

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-  And then let's see here we've got on the next page the hd zone's differences so minimum lot width

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-  for the hd zone because it is a more dense classification

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-  Was 50 feet with the minimum lot size of 0.14 acres then you can see the maximum and previous cover

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-  calculations are a bit different there as well as well as setbacks so we have five and 10 feet

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-  which was an hd zone and the res

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-  zone is 10 and 20 feet. Front yard setbacks are determined by the roads classification so those

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-  rarely change between the districts

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-  Okay site conditions and infrastructure it does have access these areas have access through South

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-  Corrie Lane, West Piper Lane, South Annalee Lane, West Wiley Street, West Corrie Drive or West

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-  Bloomfield Road

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-  None of the petition sites are located in the environmental constraints overlay also known as the

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-  Lake Monroe watershed and there is no floodplain designated on the petition sites however there is

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-  evidence of karst and sinkhole features across this area within the Sunset Hill region

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-  So here's just some aerial imagery to give you an idea of how the area looks with respect to the

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-  bird's eye view

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-  Here we have the comprehensive plan so in the Monroe County urbanizing area it was designated as

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-  mixed residential

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-  And then this section of the report covers that

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-  Discussion of the comprehensive plan between the two phases there was a phase one comprehensive

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-  plan and a phase two so just kind of provide some information on

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-  Where the county was looking to establish some development in the in the county basically providing

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-  some guidelines of how that development should look and what type of infrastructure should be there

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-  etc

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-  That's this map just also it reiterates that it's a mixed residential district as part of the

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-  comprehensive plan

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-  And it's also listed as urban infill neighborhood or N1

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-  And then again this map just indicating that the N1 district they're located with the yellow star

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-  I also included the property notice letter that was sent out by planning staff on behalf of the

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-  commissioners that provided information to property owners regarding the planning commission

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-  hearing

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-  As well as contact information for the planning department and if they had any questions to contact

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-  us and such

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-  It also included a map as well that indicates what properties were a part of this rezone and as

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-  well as a little bit of a background as well

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-  It also included a list of all the names and addresses that were

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-  A part of this rezone just so that they were all aware of who and where the rezone was occurring

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-  And then we also sent out a lot of neighbor notice letters. So there's a state statute that

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-  requires a certain

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-  Distance away from affected parcels that we have to notice as well. So this letter very similar to

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-  the one prior went out to all of those neighbors

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-  That included information about their neighbors properties being impacted. It also did provide that

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-  same information about the background, as well as the map and also provided a

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-  A the same list to, you know, reiterate that if your name is not on this list, you are not impacted.

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-  But if you have questions, please contact the planning department or attend the meeting of the

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-  Planning Commission.

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-  So I'm going to scroll through here. This section is the findings of fact. So this is just for your

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-  review. This is just standard procedure for the planning department to provide this information.

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-  I'm going to continue to scroll through here at the end of last few pages here. We do have some

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-  letters of support and or opposition. So we did receive some communication from the Greater Bloomington

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-  Chamber of Commerce. This is a letter of opposition.

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-  Basically providing a stance that they are pro-density growth. So this information was provided to

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-  the Plan Commission as in this packet for your review, and then we also have a few emails that were

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-  received by the Planning Department regarding, I think this one here is for support, liking to see

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-  single residents only, and that they were surprised to learn that the neighborhood had been

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-  designated as high density.

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-  This one here, another property owner or neighbor or neighbor that was concerned about the

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-  properties being designated as high density, and reiterating that many of the neighborhood

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-  constituents remonstrated against annexation because they did not want to have high density.

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-  See this one here.

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-  They support all of the rezones, providing some background here for their support.

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-  And we can come back to any of those necessary, but they are in the packet for your review.

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-  And now that brings me back to the Plan Commission's recommendation as well as staff's. So staff

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-  and the Plan Commission recommended approval.

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-  Plan Commission voted six to two to forward this petition to the Monroe County Board of Commissioners

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-  with a positive recommendation.

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-  Including a condition of approval, which is one, omit the property at 717 South Anna Lee Lane

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-  through 725 South Anna Lee Lane from the rezoning request due to its status as a pre-existing

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-  multifamily development.

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-  So I will now take any questions.

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-  Thank you so much. Commissioner Major, do you have questions?

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-  I had a couple of questions I think that were relevant to both rezones, but I attended the Planning

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-  Commission meeting

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-  that evening up until really the Planning Commission discussion began. So I have a pretty good

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-  background.

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-  And just for the public's knowledge, what happened to leave these out of the CDO process?

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-  So these parcels were included in the CDO process. They were all rezoned from their former fringe

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-  districts to the high development residential zone. But it was at that time the commissioners

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-  at that time requested that planning staff revisit this area and the areas that Sean will cover

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-  and request that those be rezoned again from the HD zone to the residential one zone.

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-  And if and if I might fill in a little bit more info, we addressed other properties like this,

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-  but failed to address these two when we were doing our work sessions. And so I, you know,

00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:17.360
-  I take responsibility for that. But recognizing it that we had left this out of that re-examination

00:18:17.360 --> 00:18:26.800
-  process, we didn't bring it for an amendment at the last 11th hour. Instead, we opted to

00:18:26.800 --> 00:18:37.520
-  ask for this process. It's very unusual for us to ask for any planning permit process petition,

00:18:37.520 --> 00:18:43.120
-  et cetera. It's not typical, but this is, I consider this like a correction to the CDO,

00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:49.840
-  but we wanted to go through the public vetting process. Yes. And so that's sort of the process

00:18:49.840 --> 00:18:53.840
-  we're working through now. Yes. And I think this was explained at the Planning Commission.

00:18:53.840 --> 00:18:59.040
-  Basically, these areas were just overlooked at the time, and they sort of have, you know,

00:18:59.040 --> 00:19:04.480
-  this helter skelter zoning designation because they had been the former fringe, in the former

00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:13.680
-  fridge area of the city. So, and it's basically just remedy that. Yeah. And I would say as well,

00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:23.040
-  I am still not, although I voted in support, good being better than, good being better than

00:19:23.040 --> 00:19:30.720
-  not passing it at all. I voted in support of it, but, you know, for me, on this petition and the

00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:40.320
-  next one, for example, on this one with Anna Lee Lane, that would still not meet HD standards.

00:19:40.320 --> 00:19:49.120
-  It's still outside of those standards. So I'm not sure why it matters, right, that we pull it out.

00:19:49.120 --> 00:19:54.800
-  So I'm still conflicted on that, and it's also part of the historic district. So that particular

00:19:55.520 --> 00:20:02.480
-  set of addresses. Yes, and I believe at the planning meeting, Susan Brackney was one that

00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:08.880
-  very eloquently went into the historic reasons for the historic designation and explained that

00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:14.320
-  they've asked for and received an assessment from the National Register of Historic Places

00:20:14.320 --> 00:20:19.520
-  that these areas would be appropriate for inclusion and they're going forward with that process.

00:20:20.560 --> 00:20:28.000
-  Okay, yes. And my question, I had one other question, which was what, if we complete this

00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:32.880
-  down zone, what other percentage of properties in the Sunset Hill area, and then I'll ask the

00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:38.640
-  second question when we come to the Maple Grove Baby Farms area as well, will become nonconforming?

00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:46.400
-  Yes, that's a great question. So in order to analyze what is nonconforming, we would have

00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:52.160
-  to provide a rather robust study of all the properties, which can be very challenging

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-  because it would require us to evaluate the setbacks of every structure throughout all of

00:20:59.360 --> 00:21:05.590
-  these parcels. And the data that we use on Beacon GIS, those parcel lines are not always 100%

00:21:05.590 --> 00:21:06.400
-  accurate,

00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:12.480
-  so we wouldn't even be fully confident in the analysis based on the data that we have.

00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:18.960
-  I will say that working with the GIS coordinator, Dr. John Beighton, he's been assisting planning

00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:30.800
-  to provide at least a framework that you can look at that shows basically a calculation of existing

00:21:30.800 --> 00:21:37.440
-  cover on each of these parcels, just using information from the Accessor's Office about

00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:43.840
-  structures on each of those parcels and such. So it can give us an idea of what that nonconformity

00:21:43.840 --> 00:21:48.960
-  can look like with respect to maybe maximum impervious cover. But again, there's some

00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:54.880
-  limitations in acquiring that data, so it won't be as accurate as we would hope, but it is

00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:55.280
-  somewhere

00:21:55.280 --> 00:22:02.640
-  that we can look and get an idea. That information is still being compiled, so we hope to have all

00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:02.720
-  of

00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:10.240
-  that information ready by the next formal session. Excellent. Thank you so much, and thank you for

00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:17.600
-  your excellent and thorough presentation. Thank you. Yeah, and I appreciate that. And it is a good

00:22:17.600 --> 00:22:24.160
-  reminder that it's not the lot size, it's the setbacks that matter. And ironically, we had

00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:30.240
-  the surveyor sitting on the Planning Commission telling us he didn't know what the setbacks were,

00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:37.360
-  but that should be his job. So I don't know, I know the GIS isn't accurate. I don't know why

00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:46.400
-  that's true. Well, I do know why that's true, but it's frustrating that these kinds of

00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:53.360
-  questions can be thrown out there and the answer is not known. And even with this data,

00:22:53.360 --> 00:22:56.880
-  that's just going to give you ground cover. That's not going to give you anything else.

00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:01.520
-  Yes, it's just a bite at the apple. Yeah, I, you know, and as I said at that meeting,

00:23:01.520 --> 00:23:09.040
-  I've lived on a non-conforming lot for 30 years. So, and I've been okay. Built a garage,

00:23:09.040 --> 00:23:16.960
-  you know, added onto the house. It's all good. It's all good. It happens a lot, but I think the

00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:25.600
-  biggest issue, if you look at the HD designation for high density zoning, is it says access to

00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:32.640
-  public services. Sewer. We don't have that. The sewer is there for some, but not all the properties.

00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:38.160
-  Sewer for the apartment building across the street. Yeah, that's it. Gotcha. So everyone

00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:45.680
-  else is on septic. And this is an area with cars features and a lot of environmental sensitivities

00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:52.160
-  that you could think, oh my gosh, how are we doing septic on 0.8 acres? Well, we are,

00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:59.040
-  but we wouldn't do that now, you know. So it is already an environmentally sensitive area,

00:23:59.040 --> 00:24:03.840
-  in addition to being historic. And if you spend time there, you see the farms and the hobby farms

00:24:03.840 --> 00:24:11.680
-  and it has a very different feel than other parts of the county for sure. Yes, yes. I've been

00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:11.920
-  through

00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.840
-  both areas and they definitely do because they're those little islands. Yeah, they are. In the

00:24:15.840 --> 00:24:16.000
-  middle

00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:25.040
-  of Bloomington, yes. All right. Thank you. Thanks so much. Is Sean present to do the...

00:24:25.040 --> 00:24:32.960
-  Yes, he is. And let me just offer one more piece of information from planning staff's

00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:41.600
-  recommendation that was mentioned with respect to, you know, moving some of these parcels and

00:24:41.600 --> 00:24:48.000
-  Sean will cover some of these as well from removing them from the designation. And the idea behind

00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:53.760
-  that is we understand that those properties still will be pre-existing, non-conforming with respect

00:24:53.760 --> 00:25:00.080
-  to maybe some certain design standards, but it's about being pre-existing, non-conforming with

00:25:00.080 --> 00:25:06.000
-  respect to use. Right. So if their land use is not permitted, then they have to go through another

00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:11.600
-  process called a use variance, which occasionally that bar is set pretty high. There needs to be

00:25:11.600 --> 00:25:18.320
-  hardship shown. So it can be a little bit more challenging for property owners that need a use

00:25:18.320 --> 00:25:23.600
-  variance compared to simple design standards variances that might just be setbacks. So I just

00:25:23.600 --> 00:25:29.600
-  want to make that clarification. Yeah, I appreciate that. I slid over that and I shouldn't have. So

00:25:29.600 --> 00:25:34.160
-  thank you for that, Drew. Appreciate it. Of course. Yep. And then I will turn it over to Sean.

00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:44.320
-  Good morning, commissioners. Can you hear me? Sure can. Good morning. All right. Let me just share

00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:44.560
-  my

00:25:44.560 --> 00:25:56.560
-  screen real quick. Okay. Are you able to see that? Yes. Okay. Perfect. All right. So Drew did a

00:25:56.560 --> 00:26:04.880
-  fantastic job giving you guys the rundown of all the different planning operations that go into

00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:12.320
-  these rezones. So I will try not to repeat myself and just kind of focus on maple grove baby farms

00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:19.520
-  and what's unique about this petition. I do want to just provide some sense of clarity. So

00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:28.640
-  there are in total 138 parcels in this rezone request. However, some of those include duplicate

00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:34.320
-  parcels. So that's why it's actually 132 parcels. So I just wanted to make that

00:26:34.320 --> 00:26:41.200
-  decision clear for the record. Let me go ahead and jump around here. I might be doing some jumping

00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:49.040
-  around to try to avoid some redundancy. So here on the screen, sorry, let me zoom out a little bit.

00:26:50.320 --> 00:26:56.400
-  We've got all of the highlighted areas includes all the parcels that are included in this rezone.

00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:06.240
-  So they are all currently HD. You'll want to note that the only major roadway to access all these

00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:15.760
-  parcels is from West 3rd Street. So this includes the roadways on South Johnson, South Fairfield,

00:27:17.760 --> 00:27:24.640
-  North Kimball, and then also I believe it's West Evergreen. So all of these streets

00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:37.520
-  derive access from West 3rd Street. And let's see, let's focus on some of these areas. So

00:27:37.520 --> 00:27:43.200
-  like Drew's petition, there are even more so with this petition, there are some multifamily

00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:50.880
-  developments that do already exist in this neighborhood. And I have those outlined in

00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:59.920
-  yellow on the screen here. I will note that there are two mobile home parks that are included

00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:00.320
-  within

00:28:00.320 --> 00:28:06.640
-  this petition. And I did just want to clarify that their use is not permitted outright, even if

00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:06.960
-  they

00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:14.480
-  do end up retaining their HD zoning. So I just wanted to make that clarification, as well as the

00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:21.840
-  multifamily development that's off of South Fairfield Drive. So while that is permitted

00:28:21.840 --> 00:28:30.000
-  for a multifamily, what was permitted in 2014 would actually exceed the standards in the high

00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:38.480
-  development residential zone. So as it currently stands, the CDO has a limit of 30 units on a lot,

00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:47.280
-  and what was approved in 2014 was 43. So however, even if they do retain that HD zoning, they are

00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:53.600
-  still pre-existing non-conforming, but they are in the correct zoning district for multifamily

00:28:53.600 --> 00:29:01.520
-  development. I just wanted to bring up those facts a little bit. We do have, to the northwest,

00:29:01.520 --> 00:29:09.360
-  there is a single-family detached dwelling development, but they are all on the same property.

00:29:09.360 --> 00:29:21.040
-  And then off of, let's see, is that Beaumont Lane? There is, I believe, three structures that are

00:29:21.040 --> 00:29:21.200
-  on

00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:30.000
-  that property where they contain residences. So there's kind of a mixed use of different types

00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:36.720
-  of development here in this neighborhood. And let me again jump around here.

00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:47.440
-  So similar to Drew, we did kind of do an analysis of what are the lot sizes of the properties

00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:56.400
-  in these neighborhoods. And for reference, 108 or about 82 percent of all of the parcels in the

00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:02.960
-  Maple Grove Baby Farms are less than an acre. And that leaves the remaining 24 to be greater

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:10.320
-  than an acre. And I do have those lot sizes listed here. Highlighted in yellow represents all of

00:30:10.320 --> 00:30:10.560
-  the

00:30:10.560 --> 00:30:15.440
-  parcels that are greater than one acre. And then the remainder, of course, are less than an acre.

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:23.200
-  So there is some disparities when it comes to lot size in the area.

00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:27.760
-  I think it's worth noting. Sorry, let me jump around again.

00:30:27.760 --> 00:30:37.200
-  Discussing the site conditions and infrastructure. Also similar to the Sunset Hills, there are

00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:43.360
-  certain properties that have access to sewer. And those were the previous properties that I

00:30:43.360 --> 00:30:49.440
-  discussed that were highlighted on the screen in yellow. So those properties have previous

00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:56.800
-  agreements with City of Bloomington Utilities to have access to sewer. But that sewer line that

00:30:56.800 --> 00:31:03.120
-  you see in green on your screen has not been extended to the surrounding properties. So

00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:10.640
-  the, you know, the density that is there that requires the sewer is already in place.

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:17.600
-  The sewer extension, as far as we know, is not being extended to the other properties at this time.

00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:31.360
-  We did for this petition, I did receive a mixture of letters of opposition, but also letters of

00:31:31.360 --> 00:31:40.240
-  support. Most of the letters of support came after the Plan Commission meeting on March 18th. So I

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:46.960
-  can include all correspondence for the final hearing for the formal session in this packet. But

00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:55.520
-  essentially the primary opposition were from the owners of the current multifamily developments.

00:31:55.520 --> 00:32:03.680
-  So for instance, 101 South Fairfield Drive, that was that 43-unit multifamily

00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:11.200
-  development that was approved in 2014. You know, they of course voiced their concerns about being

00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:19.280
-  rezoned from HD to RES. There were some other correspondences from other property owners,

00:32:19.280 --> 00:32:26.880
-  although they did not give specific addresses or parcel numbers just stating that they

00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:33.860
-  own property but they would like to, you know, still be able to utilize that multifamily

00:32:33.860 --> 00:32:34.800
-  designation.

00:32:34.800 --> 00:32:47.040
-  And essentially this kind of, you know, this brings me to staff's recommendation. So the

00:32:47.040 --> 00:32:51.760
-  Plan Commission did vote six to two to four this petition to the Board of Commissioners with a

00:32:51.760 --> 00:33:01.120
-  positive recommendation. Also to incorporate planning staff's condition which was to omit

00:33:01.120 --> 00:33:09.760
-  the properties at 101 South Fairfield Drive, 2542 West Evergreen Drive, 415 North Kimball Drive,

00:33:09.760 --> 00:33:16.720
-  215 North Johnson Avenue, 325 North Johnson Avenue, and 2312 West Beaumont

00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:23.920
-  Lane and 120 South Kimball Drive from the rezone request due to their status as pre-existing

00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:30.960
-  multifamily development. So I can take any questions that any of the commissioners may have.

00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:36.800
-  Thank you so much. Comments or questions, Commissioner Medeira?

00:33:36.800 --> 00:33:42.320
-  Like I said, I did attend all of the Planning Commission meeting and so I heard the

00:33:42.320 --> 00:33:46.720
-  questions and answers that were given at that session, plus I think that the only remaining

00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:55.440
-  question I have was aptly answered in response to the Sunset Hills portion, which is that it's not

00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:01.280
-  possible really to know with any definity what percentage of properties would be non-conforming.

00:34:01.280 --> 00:34:07.440
-  And to some extent, that is most irrelevant because those properties would be sort of

00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:14.080
-  grandfathered in its pre-existing non-conforming anyways. No, thank you so much for your excellent

00:34:14.080 --> 00:34:26.160
-  presentation. All right, so would you like to hear this next week, April 17th, at our meeting? Okay.

00:34:26.160 --> 00:34:29.840
-  Is that work for everyone at Planning?

00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:42.320
-  I think so. I just want to double check with Dr. Baten that that information will be available.

00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:48.480
-  I'm fairly certain it will be by that time, but I will let you know if there needs to be any sort

00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:57.360
-  of change. Yeah, I appreciate that. I think the issue, we're not going to be meeting on the 24th,

00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:06.560
-  so we could then, it would then move to May 1st. I think the thing for me is, while it is always

00:35:06.560 --> 00:35:13.600
-  good to have more information rather than less, my concern is that it's not portrayed as

00:35:13.600 --> 00:35:14.240
-  information

00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:24.240
-  you can hang a hat on. It is guidance, general, possibly accurate, most likely true information,

00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:32.880
-  and so I, for me, I don't know how to use that kind of, you know, but it is always good to have

00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:40.000
-  more information rather than less though. So let's shoot for next week and then keep us posted.

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:48.640
-  Sounds good. Great, thank you both so much. We appreciate you and I just want to thank you again

00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:56.480
-  for your work on this on behalf of the Board of Commissioners as your client. We appreciate

00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.240
-  your hard work. You both did a great job through this whole process. I appreciate that work.

00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:10.960
-  Thank you. Thank you. And just to point out, some of these are the properties that have mobile

00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:11.360
-  homes

00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:16.880
-  on them and they would not work under HD. You actually have to have a PUD for a mobile home park

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:22.720
-  because we would ensure that you have a storm shelter but they're pre-existing. So do you leave

00:36:22.720 --> 00:36:30.720
-  them in HD? I don't know. I mean I that we did that's the vote but again good over perfect.

00:36:30.720 --> 00:36:38.320
-  Yes they're problematic under either either yes yeah so all right okay and then that other

00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:45.120
-  apartment building is way too big. Yes right so 43 units instead of 30. Yeah so it's just a lot

00:36:45.120 --> 00:36:50.240
-  it's a lot. It's it's not conforming no matter what. No matter what we zone it it's not conforming.

00:36:50.240 --> 00:36:58.960
-  All right okay anything else Ms. Purdy, Mr. Cockrell? Brilliant thank you all

00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:04.960
-  so much. We are going to be adjourned. Thanks Katz. Thanks TSD.

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