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- All right, it's 1.30. I will call the March 5th, 2026 meeting of the rural county election board to

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- order. We don't have on our agenda the minutes. We do have the minutes, so I'm just going to entertain

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- a motion to accept the minutes that we have. So moved. Second. Okay, those in favor, aye. Can I? Oh,

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- yes, sure, go ahead.

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- Are these for the minutes for all three meetings in February? Yes. Okay. Chrissy Gales' first name is

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- misspelled. It's C-H-R-I-S-S-I-E as a correction. And I would like to see attached to the resolution

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- the number of polling places and early voting hours from the minutes for

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- February 17th. It says it was included, but it was not attached to what was sent out to us.

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- And then also, this is just, I'm not trying to re-raise an issue, but from the meeting of February 24th,

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- 2026, in the office, they altered a Can 12 form of a candidate. And I was surprised to hear that because

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- at our training that we all attended in December, we were told that

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- a candidate cannot go in and change. So I was in contact with the Indiana election division and it is

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- not allowed to, for anyone in any circumstance to change a form that has been filed in this situation

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- where someone signs an oath so that they are not to have changes in the clerk's office on any forms

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- even after the candidate has signed the form.

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- So I realize that that may have been a policy in the past, but I want to ensure that going forward that

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- that does not get repeated. And then also Matt did say that, of course, if there's time before the filing

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- deadlines and you notice a mistake, you can always call or contact the candidate and ask them to come

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- in and file an amended form. How many, and I know this is day to day, how many

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- What filings do you get in a day regularly? It can vary from about 10 to about 25, 30. Again, I figured

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- it was different every day. So it might just be best practice from this point on as to maybe have a

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- staff member before it's accepted, look it over. Yeah.

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- We have kind of talked about this in the office a little bit, but I am looking at creating a different

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- policy than what we currently have for in the office of how we're going to handle the candidate filings.

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- And instead of it just going through one person, it will have a first check and then a second check.

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- And both of those individuals who check them have to initial. That would be before the candidate leaves

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- your office. Correct. I mean, I realize when it's

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- recent committee persons and there's a lot of names there. Yeah. But I understand and I understand both

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- points on this. I just don't want fraud to be committed. I don't think anybody. There was no fraud.

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- There was no fraud. According to a lawyer I spoke with that constitutes fraud. But it has happened

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- What happened has happened in the past. Yeah, so in the past it has been handled that if an individual

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- forgets a piece of information and it's generally a simple piece of information, not a, like for this

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- instance it was a name. They forgot to put their name on it, but we had the rest of their candidate

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- filings with those and had their signature on it, so it was added. Should have had an initial next to

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- it in the past. That's how it has been handled.

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- Also it has been that we will call the candidate sometimes if they leave off a piece of information

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- and they will tell us to make the change and then we would just initial next to it. Those are both things

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- that have been done in the past and then we had brought up during that last meeting that if we want

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- to set a new policy I think it would be best to come from the election board to set that policy and

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- then we can move forward with that. That way we have a set change and it can be ran from here on out.

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- I don't want to make it any harder than it has to be, but I want to make sure that there are no questions

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- when it's done. Correct. Okay. And I think even you last week time suggested a checklist, which I think

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- would be a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you're doing a bunch of paperwork, you can skip things

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- very easily. All right.

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- I guess the question would be, do we want to accept the minutes with the changes, with the addendum,

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- I guess? Does that work? It works. I'll motion to accept the amended minutes. I'll second that. So again,

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- those in favor, aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. So now the clerk's update, I believe, with the legislative,

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- which is. All righty.

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- Um, on the house side, I wanted to give you an update that house bill 1342, which was the commissioner

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- district bill. It was turned into a summer study committee, uh, house bill 10 55, which was about moving

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- municipal elections to even numbered years. That bill died. So that is on the house side on the Senate side.

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- Some have been signed by the speaker. Some have been signed by the governor. The ones that were not

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- signed by the governor will automatically become law within seven days, and that seventh day is tomorrow.

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- So Senate Bill 12, which is the prohibition of ranked choice voting in Indiana, that has been signed

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- by the governor. Senate Bill 112, which was within that bill,

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- If an individual files a notice of withdrawal and that is an address that is different than the address

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- on the individual's voter registration record, then the signature on the notice of that withdrawal

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- constitutes a request to the county voter registration office that the address on the individual's voter

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- registration record is the same as the address on the notice of withdrawal.

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- You can use that withdrawal form to update the address is essentially what the bill is and it has been

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- signed by the governor. Senate bill 113. This is the one where there ended up being some compromise.

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- The original intent of the bill was to say that

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- We had to hold election material for 60 months instead of the required 22. It was moved to 34 months.

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- And the last action was signed by the speaker. But again, if the governor hasn't signed it by tomorrow,

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- then it will become law automatically. And that is all I have for the legislative update. Thank you.

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- What happened to the 16 days?

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- I was led to believe it. I think there was a significant amount of bipartisan pushback. I was surprised

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- when I didn't see because of how much we've been told it was just going to go through, but whatever

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- on that. Election central update.

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- So in your guys's packets, you guys will have the early voting staffing numbers and the Election Day

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- staffing numbers. Those are both in there. For early voting, I have it set by a schedule for each day

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- during all of the days of early voting that will have a number of how many people will be working. And

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- it will increase throughout the month. But we also do want to make sure that if there is

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- a chance of us having a bigger turnout than expected, then we need to be able to increase that. So I

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- have talked with Bob White on going ahead and setting up early voting at full capacity. So we'll have

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- 10 poll books, six print devices, and five checkouts set up in case if they are needed at any point

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- during early voting. That way, we're not having to try to set up equipment overnight, and it takes

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- a good amount of time to get that set up. I want to make sure that we're making it as easy as possible

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- and making it as smooth as possible for the early voting session. And then also for election day, I

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- have those numbers in there for you guys. I have election day for primary and general. That is leaving

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- us with backup poll books. And if we do decide after the early voting, if we need to increase some of

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- the locations for workers, then we can do that as well.

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- need to take any action on this? Not necessarily. It's more so for your guys' information so you guys

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- can see what we're looking at. I've also already sent these to both party chairs, and they have them

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- in their possession as well. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. So if I understand this spreadsheet correctly,

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- right now you're not proposing to have any sheriffs for the primary? For the primary, correct. Okay,

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- just wanted to verify. Thank you.

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- and let's go to total registered voters data. All right. So as of today, we are currently sitting at

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- 75,081 active registered voters, 14,659 inactive.

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- bringing us to a total of 89,740 registered voters in Monroe County. On this information, I wanted to

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- bring this up because we will be getting ready to print out postcards and sending those out in the mail

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- with everybody's updated information for their polling location based on the 28 polling locations and

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- reassigning precincts.

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- And then the upcoming important dates. Today we actually had the review of the ballots. We had a number

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- of 32 individuals come to check those. That is the most since I've been in this position and working

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- in Election Central that we've had come to the review of the ballots. It was great to be in the new

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- space so people can get to see what it looks like and to see how things are gonna be set up.

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- Also, another important day is going to be the test of the ballots. So since we had the review of the

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- ballots today, I will be sending out the certified list to the HART group, and they will make a couple

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- of changes that we had. And after that, then they will continue to program everything, getting all of

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- it set up, and then they will send us the V drives. Once we receive those V drives, we'll be able to

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- set the date for the

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- public test right now we're looking at possibly Thursday and that will be at 930 a.m. Which Thursday?

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- This coming Thursday. Today's Thursday? A week from today. Okay, thank you. If someone has never gone

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- to look at how many ballots and different things you have there that's honestly that's pretty impressive

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- that you guys have that much stuff laid out like that and gee you miss somebody mistyped a name I mean

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- Yeah, so there was 204 ballot styles. We had a couple of typos, and then we had one, no, two spots where

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- a race somehow got backed off. When we went back and looked at our drafts that were sent out,

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- they are there, so it's just, we have to contact Hart and let them know that one of them got dropped

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- off when they were creating the PDFs, which the individual who we work with, she's amazing.

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- She's very quick and very responsive. It happens. She is taking care of all of Indiana by herself. So

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- we're constantly back and forth in communication with her, and she does a great job. That's what the

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- point of the review is to make sure that everything is up to date and that we are good to roll.

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- Thank you. Mr. Kreider, would you like to come tell us about your wonderful work in there?

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- It's been a couple weeks since I've been there and it was like, oh, wow. Good afternoon, Richard Crider,

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- Monroe County Building and Fleet Department. Yes, it's progressing. The last several weeks, I go in

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- there almost daily to take pictures, to update folks, to realize the very next day

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- pictures that I took the day before are old news. I mean, they really are speeding along. Aiden, can

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- you please show the photos that I sent? I do have some photos. Well, okay. Oh, all right, okay.

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- So here is the new early voting space. This is the view from the west end of the room. I really enjoy

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- the old brick wall from the showers factory. I think that's a neat feature. Next photo, please. Okay,

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- this is the

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- The same room from the east view, if you were coming in off the east side of the building. Next photo.

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- This is the open office space.

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- I love it, the carpet, the big dry erase board, the windows. However, I do regret that I did not get

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- in this photo the blackout shades. They're custom, they're installed kind of up under there and they're

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- custom to each window there. And they do what they're designed to do. Next photo, please.

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- This is the reception workspace just inside of voters registration. Built-in cabinetry. Next photo.

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- This is the lobby to the future voters registration space. I want to point out on this particular photo

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- You'll notice the large opening there. We actually have in the works, it's two, they're basically, they're

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- called ticket windows. It's pretty simple. But they're prefabricated and our team's going to install

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- those in that opening when they arrive next photo. And I have more information on those if anybody would

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- like that.

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- And this is the future entrance to voters registration. This is the entrance just at the main entrance

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- of the building on the left. And I think that wraps it up for the photos. I have some notes that I'd

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- like to relay. I've had several people ask recently about a delivery date or a completion date.

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- So I wanted to give a quick status update. This week we completed the building inspection and it passed.

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- We also completed the fire inspection. It also passed. The occupancy number has been officially determined

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- by the fire marshal. That's an important milestone in this project. And it gave us the ability to host

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- this morning's event. The punch list with the architect and contractor happened yesterday.

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- Early voting area that space is it's very close to completion We're actually just a few doorknobs away

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- from getting that finished up And based on where things stand today. I think we're comfortably on track

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- for the April 7th target date Some current things happening the ballot room shelving is being installed

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- today Contractors are working through

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- HVAC components, electronics, access controls, and other punch list items. My next focus is preparing

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- the absentee ballot work area and the new space so staff can begin occupying it and then completing

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- the maintenance room so it can be turned over for operational use, maintenance slash IT. Furniture,

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- the early voting order for tables and chairs has been placed.

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- The next goal is to finalize the voter's registration area furniture order. And then right now, any

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- furniture that you see in the new space that will be used, it's temporary until our forever furniture

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- arrives. And in closing, overall, the project is moving well. The inspections are behind us. And we're

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- focusing on the finishing details and preparing for operational areas.

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- Thank you. It is a substantial upgrade. And we were talking actually from a little before the meeting

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- how much we appreciate that pretty new shiny, but the brick walls and stuff and the old with it from

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- the factory. So nice work as far as I'm concerned. When I started with the county in 2004, basically

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- everything voting was down and like the bottom of the justice building. And it's really come a long

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- way over the years.

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- It looks really, really, really good. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you for all your hard work and

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- you have been meeting with us regularly to keep us posted and I'm so incredibly grateful for that. I

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- kind of just want to mention there are some glitches not to do with you, but glitches that

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- could translate to the voting public. One of them is the phones. As I understand it, we have one phone

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- line. So we have updated the county website to add a second number, but those phones, the two lines

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- that we have, if a second caller comes in, they do get pushed to voicemail. So we're still working through

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- those kinks, but me and Richard have been working together on trying to come up with some solutions

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- for that. So and so right now,

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- My recollection is I called 2612 and it is not operable. Correct. But so we're working on getting ABS

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- up downstairs where phones will be able to be connected and they'll also have their computers connected

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- to Internet as well. Once they are down there that line will then be operable again. But and that will

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- be. Hopefully Monday. OK.

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- And so I would just encourage voters who have questions to pack their patients You know in terms of

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- the calls rolling over into voicemail. Nobody likes to get that But that's where we are and there's

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- nothing that we can be doing differently Correct, correct Will that be true for Election Day also because

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- of the information that's in the training packets and

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- Yeah, so the numbers that we have put into the training packets, we added the second line, the 2692

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- into the training packets. And then since the ABS line, the 2612 will be set up downstairs, those will

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- also be active, which are also in the training packet. All three of the numbers that are listed will

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- be active by election. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

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- It looks phenomenal. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Go fix some more. Thank you, Richard. All right. Poll

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- location update.

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- I've got poll location. Oh, that's right. Sorry. The order doesn't matter, but I've got that. Yeah,

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- I know. OK, so the poll location update we have heard back from all 28 locations. They have agreed to

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- be a polling location. And so from here, I just need to receive approval from you guys to go to the

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- county commissioners for them to review these this list of polling locations. Motion to approve. Second.

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- In favor, aye. Aye. Opposed?

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- Okay, thank you. It's nice that they're all there. Now let's do a post-election audit conversation.

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- We talked about it. I assume we're just at a point where we have a motion to adopt. I believe we stopped,

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- yes, since the post-election audit. So is there a motion to accept that resolution? Motion made. Second?

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- Okay. Any discussion?

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- I will have that for you guys to sign after the meeting. We can do that. So those in favor, aye. Aye.

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- Opposed, no. Motion carries. All right. Now some new business. CFA fours. I still have some

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- So I gave you guys an updated list just before the meeting had started. There are some handwritten N1s

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- on there of individuals who have filed yesterday and today. Those. So on those, the ones that are gonna

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- be on the top portion of that

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- and including the three whose names have been added. Well, sorry, I should say the first two on the

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- bottom section who have been added to that filed list will receive a letter of a first warning. I need

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- to receive approval on that for those letters to go out to those individuals. And I want to break this

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- down that a way it's easier for us to understand if that's OK. Oh, go ahead. OK, so all of those individuals, they have

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- missed one, this is their first late filing, so they would just be receiving a warning due to the policy.

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- And then the ones that are on the bottom portion, besides our very last candidate on there, they will

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- all be receiving a second letter saying that they have still not filed. And then for that last candidate,

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- this was their second late filing, so it could be 50% of the maximum cost.

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- I just need the election board to determine whether they want to move forward with issuing the fine

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- or not. Can I ask a question before we get to that? Yeah, go ahead. On the second notice letter and

00:25:05.569 --> 00:25:11.998
- call names, we have two individuals on there who are unfortunately deceased. Yep.

00:25:12.226 --> 00:25:18.105
- law with regard to their filing. That was precisely my thought as well when I read that, so. So normally

00:25:18.105 --> 00:25:23.704
- it would be the trust, sorry, the treasurer of their committee would be the ones that need to close

00:25:23.704 --> 00:25:29.471
- their committee. If they are, if they did not have a treasurer, if they were their own treasurer, then

00:25:29.471 --> 00:25:35.574
- we have been informed that it should be a relative of that individual to close out the committee, especially

00:25:35.574 --> 00:25:37.982
- if there are funds still in the committee.

00:25:45.762 --> 00:25:54.135
- looks like she's thinking, so we're listening. I was just inquiring who the notice went to. If it is

00:25:54.135 --> 00:26:02.509
- the treasurer or the relative, was that person provided the notice? So it went to both the treasurer

00:26:02.509 --> 00:26:10.882
- that was listed if they had one and then to the candidate themselves. The candidate's deceased. Yes.

00:26:10.882 --> 00:26:12.126
- Did the notice

00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:18.636
- that went to the treasurer and or the family member say that despite the unfortunate circumstances we

00:26:18.636 --> 00:26:25.064
- still have to get this filed. So we have a regular generated letter and that's why I want to move forward

00:26:25.064 --> 00:26:31.492
- with making the phone calls now so that a way we can contact somebody else that will be in correspondence

00:26:31.492 --> 00:26:37.374
- with this individual so that we can move forward and actually be able to take an action on this.

00:26:40.258 --> 00:26:49.084
- And I have no desire whatsoever to pound on somebody. No. We also need to get it cleaned up. Yeah. So

00:26:49.084 --> 00:26:57.910
- you're going to make phone calls to the, okay. And I will motion to authorize the election supervisor

00:26:57.910 --> 00:27:06.650
- to make the phone calls. Second. Okay. Any discussion? Will they also then, since the relative, will

00:27:06.650 --> 00:27:09.246
- they need to receive a letter

00:27:09.538 --> 00:27:17.554
- because they may or may not have gotten it. It may have gone back to sender as deceased. So, yeah. But

00:27:17.554 --> 00:27:25.414
- that should come back to your office. Yeah, so for these two individuals, one came back and said had

00:27:25.414 --> 00:27:33.352
- returned to sender. The second one did not come back, and we have not received the notice that it was

00:27:33.352 --> 00:27:39.422
- picked up either yet. Well, the phone calls, I think, would be the way to go.

00:27:40.354 --> 00:27:49.071
- and we'll deal from there if we have to. Anyone else have any comments on that? Mr. Chair, I do notice

00:27:49.071 --> 00:27:57.535
- someone in the audience whose name is on the second notice. I'm not going to out them, but I assume

00:27:57.535 --> 00:28:05.406
- that they showed up because they might want to address the board. If that's the case, please

00:28:17.250 --> 00:28:23.985
- I am here to address the board, but I'm not here on a second notice. Can I address the board at this

00:28:23.985 --> 00:28:30.920
- time? You weren't the person to whom I was referring. I just want to clarify. Thank you to the election

00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:37.789
- board for the opportunity to be able to address you today. My name is April Wilson, and I do have some

00:28:37.789 --> 00:28:42.590
- exhibits for you. I'm not sure how you'd like me to present them. Okay.

00:29:28.418 --> 00:29:37.246
- I'm ready to proceed whenever you're ready to let me. I just wanted to- I'm ready to let you. Thank you.

00:29:37.378 --> 00:29:43.841
- to start with my first exhibit. So I recently received a certified letter to my home alleging that I

00:29:43.841 --> 00:29:50.304
- had a delinquent campaign finance report, specifically also identifying this hearing as March 5th at

00:29:50.304 --> 00:29:56.895
- 1.30. And it says in part, a hearing is called to determine whether the committee has violated Indiana

00:29:56.895 --> 00:30:03.038
- campaign finance laws by filing a late or having a missing 2025 annual campaign finance report.

00:30:03.138 --> 00:30:10.068
- and if so, whether the imposition of a civil penalty pursuant to IC 39417 is appropriate under

00:30:10.068 --> 00:30:17.655
- the circumstances. That is a selection of that notification. I did send an email to this honorable body

00:30:17.655 --> 00:30:25.096
- on March 1st. I have included that as my second exhibit. That was addressed to Honorable Clerk Brown.

00:30:25.096 --> 00:30:30.494
- I did CC election board member Giffins and election board member Shields.

00:30:30.594 --> 00:30:34.558
- In addition, I see Seed Election Supervisor Kylie Farris.

00:30:34.786 --> 00:30:40.649
- that email if I could just read it into the record. Honorable Clerk Brown, I'm in receipt of a notice

00:30:40.649 --> 00:30:46.512
- of hearing for March 5th, 2026, alleging a delinquent campaign finance report for January 21st, 2026.

00:30:46.512 --> 00:30:52.260
- I will be sure to be in attendance. Following the law is very important to me. Could you share with

00:30:52.260 --> 00:30:58.008
- me which rule or statute is the basis for the notice? I think there may be a misunderstanding. As I

00:30:58.008 --> 00:31:01.054
- disbanded my committee in 2023, please see attached.

00:31:01.538 --> 00:31:08.417
- Attached to that email was actually my CFA4, which shows that I disbanded my committee. I have provided

00:31:08.417 --> 00:31:15.164
- that as well as an exhibit to this election division. I did not receive any response to that email as

00:31:15.164 --> 00:31:21.845
- of Tuesday at noon, and so I did stop by the election division, and election supervisor Kylie Farris

00:31:21.845 --> 00:31:24.094
- was kind enough to speak with me.

00:31:24.290 --> 00:31:31.290
- In the course of that conversation, she confirmed the paper file that the Election Division has, shows

00:31:31.290 --> 00:31:38.357
- that my committee was disbanded and that it would be addressed today. I actually, the document you have

00:31:38.357 --> 00:31:45.153
- in front of you, the CFA, was on the county website, so I know it's also in the Election Division's

00:31:45.153 --> 00:31:50.590
- electronic filing system. I guess I wanted to approach the board today because,

00:31:51.042 --> 00:31:56.491
- one, to address this issue with you. But also when election supervisor Ferris was talking about the

00:31:56.491 --> 00:32:02.103
- list, I don't know what the list is. I didn't hear that my name was withdrawn and that that allegation

00:32:02.103 --> 00:32:07.661
- was withdrawn. So all I heard is that there would be warnings. I don't know which ones. None of those

00:32:07.661 --> 00:32:13.218
- should be applicable to me because I think there's been a misunderstanding on the election division's

00:32:13.218 --> 00:32:18.721
- part. And I was just hopeful that that allegation could be withdrawn against me at this time. So she

00:32:18.721 --> 00:32:20.574
- has been pulled off of that list.

00:32:20.706 --> 00:32:27.447
- This was one of the situations where Clerk Brown remember when we had started revamping all of the CFA-4

00:32:27.447 --> 00:32:33.931
- filings and we created a new record list in order for us to keep track of when people are filing and

00:32:33.931 --> 00:32:40.672
- how many times that they have filed late. This is one of those where hers was found later at a different

00:32:40.672 --> 00:32:47.285
- time and we had been updating the online versions. We had then scanned in hers after the list had been

00:32:47.285 --> 00:32:50.174
- created. That would be the misunderstanding.

00:32:50.754 --> 00:32:58.436
- And your name is not on the list that we were we were correct. OK, sorry. And I hadn't heard the allegation

00:32:58.436 --> 00:33:05.691
- formally withdrawn, so I wanted to make sure that that we are all clear that this is not a mistake on

00:33:05.691 --> 00:33:13.373
- my part. Miss Wilson, I will say I did not respond because I did not want to be. Upgraded for communicating

00:33:13.373 --> 00:33:19.774
- with the other since you had had addressed it to all of us, I didn't want to be upgraded.

00:33:20.258 --> 00:33:27.277
- for responding as though I were communicating with the other election board members so I'm only speaking

00:33:27.277 --> 00:33:33.962
- for me. I'm one of three but that's why you didn't receive a response from me. Same for me. My mind

00:33:33.962 --> 00:33:40.780
- as well when we saw that. And then I want to add to that also. I reached out to TSD yesterday. We are

00:33:40.780 --> 00:33:47.799
- noticing that in our election email but then also in my email if there is an email that is not a regular

00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.470
- email address that we're

00:33:49.698 --> 00:33:57.790
- communicating back and forth with daily or at least semi close to being pretty much daily.

00:33:58.274 --> 00:34:04.389
- The documents are not being attached to their emails and they're also being sent to quarantine. And

00:34:04.389 --> 00:34:10.626
- so the more not seeing those emails in our office, we have quite a few that are in our election email

00:34:10.626 --> 00:34:16.741
- that are currently being looked at to try to get those attachments that were sent with them back to

00:34:16.741 --> 00:34:22.856
- us. And then TSD has been informed on that. They made some changes yesterday and we're hopeful that

00:34:22.856 --> 00:34:27.198
- it's going to help with that. I thought I saw emails about that today.

00:34:27.714 --> 00:34:33.455
- And I don't know anything about anything when it comes to tech, but I'm assuming this is like the white

00:34:33.455 --> 00:34:39.085
- listing to make it so that it doesn't go to quarantine. I'm thinking it's some of that, but it's hard

00:34:39.085 --> 00:34:44.605
- for us to do that, especially since it's mostly the public that's emailing us to that email address

00:34:44.605 --> 00:34:50.235
- due to them sending in applications of vote by mail or sending in an FPCA or any of those situations.

00:34:50.235 --> 00:34:54.430
- So they have been informed I'm working on trying to get some of those kinks

00:34:54.946 --> 00:35:01.377
- smoothed out and that way we are able to continue with getting those emails in that we should be getting.

00:35:01.377 --> 00:35:07.626
- But also I appreciate Ms. Wilson that you've come in and raised these issues and apologies for the any

00:35:07.626 --> 00:35:13.754
- discomfort or anything that's caused you. I really appreciate that and I know you were talking about

00:35:13.754 --> 00:35:19.882
- evaluating policies moving forward. Mistakes happen. I understand that. I know we're all being asked

00:35:19.882 --> 00:35:24.190
- a lot as county employees right now and that's and that's challenging.

00:35:24.354 --> 00:35:30.824
- It would be helpful I think to consider maybe a policy once it's been identified that it was just an

00:35:30.824 --> 00:35:37.294
- error, a way of noticing them so I can know that I don't have to appear today and that it's formally

00:35:37.294 --> 00:35:43.893
- been withdrawn would be helpful in the future. Thank you. I appreciate your time. Thank you. I do have

00:35:43.893 --> 00:35:50.747
- another question too about this kind of a listing here that we have. For example, I know that Commissioner

00:35:50.747 --> 00:35:53.502
- Jones has not filed to run for reelection.

00:35:53.698 --> 00:36:06.887
- Will she be required to file CFA 4 for 2026? If it has not been closed, yes. If what she has filed with

00:36:06.887 --> 00:36:14.750
- you, and that's dated February the 10th, if that is marked as

00:36:16.098 --> 00:36:23.367
- So this one can't be marked as closed because she's still an elected official. So she'll have to keep

00:36:23.367 --> 00:36:30.779
- hers open until she is no longer an elected official. That was an update. We had the law change in July

00:36:30.779 --> 00:36:37.977
- of last year where any elected official had to keep their campaign finances open. So once at the end

00:36:37.977 --> 00:36:45.246
- of 2026, she will then be able to file a closed committee. Oh, she will have to file another CFA for.

00:36:45.346 --> 00:36:52.361
- So do we need something now? This is just to alert anybody that's not running for reelection or anything

00:36:52.361 --> 00:36:59.109
- that they still will need to file something to indicate that it's a final, if it's a final for them.

00:36:59.109 --> 00:37:06.058
- It may not be, but they will still need to file. That makes sense. We have one other person here that's

00:37:06.058 --> 00:37:10.334
- listed. We was wondering if they want to talk to us about that.

00:37:12.770 --> 00:37:25.655
- I'm not outing them. Maybe they just wanted to observe and see what to. I'm Dorothy Granger. I am running

00:37:25.655 --> 00:37:38.175
- for Bloomington Township board member. And I received a notice that I had not submitted some financial

00:37:38.175 --> 00:37:40.606
- something or other.

00:37:40.706 --> 00:37:48.359
- The only financial thing I submitted was last year when the law changed. If you're paid more than $5,000,

00:37:48.359 --> 00:37:56.012
- you have to submit that, so I submitted that, but I haven't had a campaign for four years, so I apologize

00:37:56.012 --> 00:38:03.376
- for my ignorance. What do I have to do? So you can just stop by your office and fill out a CFA-4, and

00:38:03.376 --> 00:38:08.286
- since you had no money in that campaign, it would just be a zero on

00:38:08.418 --> 00:38:14.831
- your statement ballots, and it's just to keep it updated. With the law change, some people are kind

00:38:14.831 --> 00:38:21.501
- of confused by it as well. Just stop by our office and we're very happy to help you. Okay. So does this

00:38:21.501 --> 00:38:28.171
- mean if I'm so fortunate to be elected again that I have to do this every year? Yes, an annual finance.

00:38:28.171 --> 00:38:34.713
- There's no money? Yes. Okay. Yep. And then since you are running, you'll have to do a pre-primary and

00:38:34.713 --> 00:38:37.278
- a pre-election CFA four filing as well.

00:38:39.778 --> 00:38:48.131
- May I do that tomorrow? Yes, of course. So that's where I am. I apologize. My lottery ticket. Your luck's

00:38:48.131 --> 00:38:56.406
- got to change. And then I will say in the candidate packets that we give out, it does have the due dates

00:38:56.406 --> 00:39:04.601
- for all of those. But whenever you come to the office, we can also get you a copy of that due date list

00:39:04.601 --> 00:39:09.566
- as well. OK. I think it's online. Yeah. So any questions from?

00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:18.174
- Our goal is to just do whatever we have to do to get these taken care of. So if you go see them tomorrow

00:39:18.174 --> 00:39:26.297
- and get this taken care of, we'll all have a thumbs up. That's exactly what our goal is, is to get them.

00:39:26.297 --> 00:39:34.421
- I apologize for not coming in sooner. I've been on travel for a while. Occasionally we discover election

00:39:34.421 --> 00:39:36.510
- laws somewhat complicated.

00:39:40.994 --> 00:39:47.607
- So you go see them tomorrow. OK, yeah, you're welcome. And you know their offices moved, right? You

00:39:47.607 --> 00:39:51.774
- know their offices at a new spot. Now we've talked about that.

00:40:06.562 --> 00:40:12.034
- I just wanted to apologize for my late filing. I think it was my first offense, I believe, but so I

00:40:12.034 --> 00:40:17.505
- hopefully I'm on that warning list, but I just wanted to come and apologize and say it won't happen

00:40:17.505 --> 00:40:23.031
- again. Just misread the calendar and I again apologize for my error. So do you know what needs to be

00:40:23.031 --> 00:40:28.558
- turned in? It's already turned in. I did it. It's completed. It's just it was late. It was after the

00:40:28.558 --> 00:40:34.029
- due date. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's not one of the ones that was written on here, right? Yes, so that's

00:40:34.029 --> 00:40:36.382
- all. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

00:40:37.794 --> 00:40:44.800
- If there are no other individuals to address this list, I did want to do a point of information for

00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:51.806
- the election board. I did receive a few calls from a couple individuals listed on the warning list,

00:40:51.806 --> 00:40:58.812
- and one of them had pointed out and shared with me a photo that I'm going to share with you because

00:40:58.812 --> 00:41:06.238
- this might have led to confusion for the person that I talk to, so I don't have permission to share. TSD?

00:41:11.106 --> 00:41:23.679
- What I'm going to share is in this individual's candidate packet, there is the CFA four deadlines listed.

00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:35.658
- And I think they got confused because I'm going to make that bigger. Just give me a sec. Is it going

00:41:35.658 --> 00:41:39.454
- to let me zoom in? There we go.

00:41:42.594 --> 00:41:50.766
- What this is is it's a photo from the candidates packet and it reflects that the annual report is due

00:41:50.766 --> 00:41:58.779
- January 20th of 2027 instead of January 21st of 2026. That will be the deadline for the next annual

00:41:58.779 --> 00:42:06.791
- and then the one for this annual because the candidate packet that is from for this election cycle.

00:42:06.791 --> 00:42:11.518
- So it would have been on the one from last election cycle.

00:42:12.898 --> 00:42:22.881
- It might be helpful to indicate that because I think the candidates got confused. And this individual

00:42:22.881 --> 00:42:32.669
- was a first time warning person, but, you know, it wasn't clear. And so maybe that can be indicated

00:42:32.669 --> 00:42:42.750
- better in the candidate packets. I'm starting to still make it bigger in my computers. So just because

00:42:42.914 --> 00:42:51.474
- It's a 2026 candidate packet. The reporting dates it tells you so it stands to reason that if those

00:42:51.474 --> 00:43:00.291
- are the reporting dates for the seven report that 25 reports would have been. And it does indicate the

00:43:00.291 --> 00:43:05.342
- report period as well. Yeah, it does. And so I don't know.

00:43:05.826 --> 00:43:12.224
- if there's a way to indicate that clear in the candidate packet, because there are a couple of confused

00:43:12.224 --> 00:43:18.560
- individuals. And so I'm not saying that it impacts the first warning. I'm just saying maybe for future

00:43:18.560 --> 00:43:24.897
- preparation of those candidate packets, we could put something up at the top that says 2027. If a line

00:43:24.897 --> 00:43:31.171
- at the top said these dates are for the 2026 election, is that what you're talking about? Yeah, if we

00:43:31.171 --> 00:43:32.894
- could just make it clearer.

00:43:38.370 --> 00:43:47.044
- dealt with it, I haven't. I'm going to defer to your judgment on it. It sounds like we still had one

00:43:47.044 --> 00:43:55.975
- issue to resolve here. Yeah, so the last one will be the individual who had, this was their second late

00:43:55.975 --> 00:44:04.734
- filing. So that'll be the very last one on that list. They did file yesterday, so it just, we need to

00:44:04.734 --> 00:44:06.366
- make a decision on

00:44:06.978 --> 00:44:14.834
- if you guys want to move forward with the fine or what you guys would like to do? You had mentioned

00:44:14.834 --> 00:44:18.526
- 50% of the allowable fine. What would that be?

00:44:29.858 --> 00:44:43.576
- I know that the policy is also printed in the candidate packet. I want to be for sure on what the amount

00:44:43.576 --> 00:44:58.078
- is beforehand. So I'm waiting on Molly to pull that. So what have we done? What has been policy when you file?

00:44:58.882 --> 00:45:08.524
- So since this new policy was adopted in 2024, we've not had this situation yet because we cleared everybody's

00:45:08.524 --> 00:45:17.289
- late filings out and started fresh. This will be the first one that's actually came to the point of

00:45:17.289 --> 00:45:26.317
- being able to have a fine. Now it's 50% of the maximum, I wanna say the maximum is $100 a day. So it'd

00:45:26.317 --> 00:45:28.158
- be 50% of $50 a day.

00:45:28.322 --> 00:45:38.420
- I'm not 100% sure on that. I want to make sure with the resolution that was adopted. But the cap on

00:45:38.420 --> 00:45:48.517
- that is $1,000. So. So Mr. Chair, just previous incarnations, it feels like every time somebody new

00:45:48.517 --> 00:45:58.110
- came to the election board, then there also was a change in penalty for campaign late filings.

00:45:59.714 --> 00:46:07.504
- Initially, our hope was to not discourage people from wanting to run, but we got to a place, this would

00:46:07.504 --> 00:46:15.444
- have been about three incarnations ago, we got to a place where candidates just did not take it seriously

00:46:15.444 --> 00:46:22.934
- because there was just a warning. In Marion County, there is no warning. You just get fined, and we

00:46:22.934 --> 00:46:25.406
- didn't want to strike that tone.

00:46:29.666 --> 00:46:40.821
- latest is the 2024, which is after the first, then you get the 50%. And then the third is the 100%.

00:46:40.821 --> 00:46:52.311
- Our goal is to get the forms in. Correct. Does the days count weekends also? It does say it's calendar

00:46:52.311 --> 00:46:58.558
- days. Wow. So I am going to make a motion to impose the

00:46:58.722 --> 00:47:07.425
- second warning penalty. I'm happy. I'm happy to listen to the. Of how much? $50 a day. This has been

00:47:07.425 --> 00:47:16.041
- enough. That would be the full 1000. It would. Yeah, I go ahead. I think the policy says 50% of the

00:47:16.041 --> 00:47:24.657
- statutory maximum, which is $25 a day until current with a maximum of $1000. So it's. So do we know

00:47:24.657 --> 00:47:27.070
- how much this one would be?

00:47:28.674 --> 00:47:38.582
- I just said 1,000, I get that, but have we figured it to see? What was the date, and I'll just. It was

00:47:38.582 --> 00:47:48.683
- due January 21st, and it was filed March 4th. And then it is $25 a day. I'm trying to get my calculator.

00:47:48.683 --> 00:47:58.206
- You were already mapping, I'll let you go. Yeah, if I have it correct. I'm sorry, so January what?

00:47:58.466 --> 00:48:09.123
- January 21st to March 4th. The total maximum then would be $1,100 and so half of that would be $550.

00:48:09.123 --> 00:48:19.781
- Motion. Define $550. Okay. Well, the maximum would be $1,000 then because it exceeds the $1,000 cap.

00:48:19.781 --> 00:48:28.222
- Yeah. So it would be 50% of the $1,000. Oh, so it's 50% of the cap? Yeah. Okay.

00:48:28.706 --> 00:48:36.496
- 500. Motion for 500. I'll second. Okay. I think our staff has enough to keep track of it. Yeah, I think

00:48:36.496 --> 00:48:43.986
- so too. So those in favor aye? Aye. Opposed? That motion is passed. Thank you. I assume then you'll

00:48:43.986 --> 00:48:51.776
- go ahead. I think you were about to say it. I think I would recommend the election board adopt a motion

00:48:51.776 --> 00:48:54.622
- to send a findings letter and include

00:48:54.754 --> 00:49:02.085
- in that letter is to the candidate a notification that they have the right to appeal that finding. You

00:49:02.085 --> 00:49:09.344
- have such a letter already drafted? We drafted a letter when the policy was created and I believe Ms.

00:49:09.344 --> 00:49:16.461
- Ferris should have that but it instructs exactly what I said that the election board on X amount of

00:49:16.461 --> 00:49:23.934
- date finds the candidate X amount of money and then it outlines the appeal process. Do we need a motion?

00:49:25.186 --> 00:49:36.176
- I hope that such a letter be sent. Okay, there's a motion. Does we send the letter? Second. Okay, discussion?

00:49:36.176 --> 00:49:46.366
- Favor aye. Aye. Opposed? I hate to find people for that, but we've been telling them for a long time.

00:49:46.366 --> 00:49:50.462
- And if you don't, nobody will, you know?

00:49:54.722 --> 00:50:04.771
- Thank you. I guess we're ready to move on. Early voting, poll worker parking discussion. So we have

00:50:04.771 --> 00:50:14.821
- had a couple of questions about poll worker parking for the primary for early voting. Right now I'm

00:50:14.821 --> 00:50:23.966
- also looking at for ABS workers, the ones that we are looking at having start pretty soon.

00:50:25.282 --> 00:50:32.537
- Now we have four spots that are over at the Johnson hardware building where we used to be that are still

00:50:32.537 --> 00:50:39.655
- labeled as clerk staff. Those four spots will be used for the ABS staff members for in the back office

00:50:39.655 --> 00:50:46.703
- currently. And then we are looking at the parking garage that is directly beside showers that's going

00:50:46.703 --> 00:50:54.718
- to be the trades parking garage and working with the city like we have in the past of getting some passes for them.

00:50:55.138 --> 00:51:02.437
- but we've also been informed that we could use the overflow lot of the convention center. So we're just

00:51:02.437 --> 00:51:09.596
- working with both of the party chairs. They have said something about doing some shuttles, and I just

00:51:09.596 --> 00:51:16.685
- wanted to make sure that this was being translated to you guys, but also being publicly said so that

00:51:16.685 --> 00:51:23.774
- we can start getting some really defined answers down, and that way we have parking ready for April.

00:51:26.434 --> 00:51:35.066
- How many slots are being reserved at the election office? There are four. Not at the Johnson Hardware

00:51:35.066 --> 00:51:44.290
- Building? Oh, none. That entire parking lot will be for voter parking only. We've got a staff park somewhere

00:51:44.290 --> 00:51:52.752
- else and voters park there. Correct. That's a lot of staff too. That lot is not nearly as big as it

00:51:52.752 --> 00:51:56.222
- looks when you first pull into it. Yeah.

00:51:56.962 --> 00:52:03.837
- Do we know how many spaces that has? I want to believe the count that I had yesterday was about 50.

00:52:03.837 --> 00:52:10.988
- We're looking at the plans that Richard Crider has dropped off by our office of what they're doing when

00:52:10.988 --> 00:52:17.932
- they're repaving the parking lot and restriping everything. Do you have any sense of how many passes

00:52:17.932 --> 00:52:24.807
- you might be able to get from this? Not currently. That's why I'm starting to try to get some ideas

00:52:24.807 --> 00:52:26.526
- if we do have to use the

00:52:26.690 --> 00:52:33.363
- Convention Center overflow lot how a shuttle would work and like Shift wise of because we have the first

00:52:33.363 --> 00:52:39.782
- shift of early voting the second shift of early voting getting people there getting people back It's

00:52:39.782 --> 00:52:46.200
- gonna be a lot but we're working both both Cory and Chrissy on that They were actually the ones that

00:52:46.200 --> 00:52:49.950
- brought up a shuttle situation if we needed to so But then

00:52:50.114 --> 00:52:56.095
- Sometimes the people who are reconciling at the end of the day for early voting, they're not always

00:52:56.095 --> 00:53:02.255
- done at six. No. And I mean, I can say from experience that I've been there until almost seven o'clock

00:53:02.255 --> 00:53:08.235
- some nights while we're reconciling everything from that day to get everything done. So it's trying

00:53:08.235 --> 00:53:14.395
- to figure out how parking is going to work for each of those individuals. Because the shuttle was from

00:53:14.395 --> 00:53:18.462
- my recollection of the meeting was going to be once in the morning.

00:53:18.978 --> 00:53:26.446
- and once in the afternoon, so if you're late and you miss the shuttle because of an accident or something,

00:53:26.446 --> 00:53:33.565
- that's gonna be problematic to well-meaning workers. Yeah, and like I said, I just wanted to get this

00:53:33.565 --> 00:53:40.544
- conversation going now also so that it is out in the air and hopefully that we can get some outside

00:53:40.544 --> 00:53:46.686
- people to start giving us recommendations also, or since I am reaching out to the city,

00:53:46.946 --> 00:53:52.692
- More than likely tomorrow if not Monday because we're getting all of the street numbers and meters that

00:53:52.692 --> 00:53:58.217
- we're looking at reserving as well for early voting. That way we have additional space. In the past

00:53:58.217 --> 00:54:03.742
- when we worked with the city they've been really great about giving us any metered spots that we've

00:54:03.742 --> 00:54:04.350
- asked for.

00:54:04.450 --> 00:54:10.712
- Down at Johnson, we did quite a bit. All of the parking on the side of the building was always reserved

00:54:10.712 --> 00:54:17.155
- for us. So I don't think it'll be too much of an issue. It's just the amount and volume that we're looking

00:54:17.155 --> 00:54:23.357
- at that could be an issue. Would it be possible to get past bus passes for Bloomington Transit in case

00:54:23.357 --> 00:54:29.498
- people weren't able to catch the shuttle? I mean, that would be. Yeah, I'm not. I know that we've not

00:54:29.498 --> 00:54:34.014
- done it in the past. We could look into it and see how that that would go.

00:54:35.554 --> 00:54:45.448
- My only recollection was three rides on election day. Yeah. I don't know, because they're a business

00:54:45.448 --> 00:54:55.440
- too. City of Bloomington Transit Services, they're a business too. I just cannot see them giving that

00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:04.158
- many passes out for that many days. Is there a route that goes from A to B? Right. Okay.

00:55:05.474 --> 00:55:14.695
- updated and you'll continue to work. Yep. Okay. All right. The equipment for testing needs to be approved.

00:55:14.695 --> 00:55:23.313
- Yes. So you guys will have a list of those pieces of equipment. This was sent from VSTOP. They do a

00:55:23.313 --> 00:55:32.189
- randomize and then send us the list in the order that we should go from. We generally start at the top

00:55:32.189 --> 00:55:34.430
- and work our way down. So

00:55:34.722 --> 00:55:40.926
- By state required, we in our county has to test two and a half pieces of equipment. So we've always

00:55:40.926 --> 00:55:47.255
- done three in the past. We are looking at doing six this year. And then Bob White did suggest that we

00:55:47.255 --> 00:55:53.769
- skip Jackson Creek to since it is the second scanner and the second scanners are not used as frequently.

00:55:53.769 --> 00:56:00.222
- So we want to make sure that we are checking the ones that are used more frequently. So it would be the

00:56:00.514 --> 00:56:08.736
- Highland Village, the Soles Harbor, Fairview, Grandview, Emmanuel Baptist, and Eastview would be the

00:56:08.736 --> 00:56:16.957
- ones that I'm suggesting today. So when will this occur? So this will be the public test that should

00:56:16.957 --> 00:56:25.830
- be on next week on Thursday once we receive the data back from HART. And what time? It would be at 9.30 a.m.

00:56:25.830 --> 00:56:29.086
- Okay, and these will all be at election

00:56:29.794 --> 00:56:38.583
- Yes. Yes. So this one will be a public notice that has to go out 40 days in advance, 48 hours in advance.

00:56:38.583 --> 00:56:47.289
- Sorry. So it will be publicly noticed for that one. And then on that, it is going to be at the new voter

00:56:47.289 --> 00:56:55.580
- register. Sorry. Early voting location. Molly, would we be able to come to that and just to observe

00:56:55.580 --> 00:56:58.814
- without it being considered a meeting?

00:56:58.978 --> 00:57:04.888
- The election board is supposed to be there. You guys are reviewing it. That's why it is publicly. I

00:57:04.888 --> 00:57:11.212
- want to show up and she's there and oops. All of a sudden we've broken a rule. That answers that question.

00:57:11.212 --> 00:57:17.181
- I am very pleased that we're going above and beyond what state required for this testing. Thank you.

00:57:17.181 --> 00:57:23.090
- Yeah, we were looking at this and we noticed that some of these had not been tested recently, so we

00:57:23.090 --> 00:57:27.582
- added in a few extras that we haven't had on the list in a couple of years.

00:57:29.762 --> 00:57:38.956
- Thank you. You're welcome. And we need to appoint ABS staff. I believe we now have the letters that

00:57:38.956 --> 00:57:48.334
- we received of what we were missing, correct? Yes, so the two letters that you guys have from both of

00:57:48.334 --> 00:57:57.803
- the party chairs was sent this morning. It was sent just before noon on our way over here. I will make

00:57:57.803 --> 00:57:59.550
- a motion to accept

00:57:59.906 --> 00:58:06.026
- the recommended workers from both the Democratic and Republican Party chairs as outlined in

00:58:06.026 --> 00:58:12.944
- the correspondence received. Any discussion? Well, I think the appropriate procedure would be to attach

00:58:12.944 --> 00:58:19.663
- the list to the prepared resolution of appointment. Attach the list to the amended resolution of the

00:58:19.663 --> 00:58:22.590
- appointment. She just hadn't said that yet.

00:58:25.026 --> 00:58:40.289
- And I need to update the resolution because I was unaware that any lists were received. And so I'm going

00:58:40.289 --> 00:58:53.662
- to display this resolution. We've discovered, as we try to fill these, that if you could do

00:58:54.306 --> 00:59:02.569
- two instead of just two people would have to work as often that we would have had better luck getting

00:59:02.569 --> 00:59:10.831
- people more quick run into when I've talked with people that oversee early voting they say oftentimes

00:59:10.831 --> 00:59:19.742
- those have to hurt people signed in the afternoon they're not as reliable about showing up and so it's better

00:59:22.658 --> 00:59:33.465
- It just avoids problems. OK, it is. So where are we then? So for the resolution that I'm now currently

00:59:33.465 --> 00:59:44.273
- displaying, the first highlighted date would be the date that the election division reached out to the

00:59:44.273 --> 00:59:46.686
- party chairs, which is

01:00:01.570 --> 01:00:10.869
- What's the meeting that we had? I was I was thinking the February meeting and we had to write, but it

01:00:10.869 --> 01:00:20.259
- was the first one. So we originally asked asked for the leads at the December meeting. And it has been

01:00:20.259 --> 01:00:28.190
- a ongoing process, and then they were officially asked for. At the February 13th, yes.

01:00:31.778 --> 01:00:40.730
- February 13th meeting. And when was the list from the county chairmen received? Both of them were today

01:00:40.730 --> 01:00:49.337
- and the one from the Republican Party was received at 1227 PM and the one from the Democratic Party

01:00:49.337 --> 01:00:57.342
- was received at 1127. And do you anticipate a second list or is this all of the ABS workers?

01:00:57.634 --> 01:01:05.928
- There will be more ABS workers and we will have to schedule a special meeting of the election board

01:01:05.928 --> 01:01:14.389
- for all other ABS workers. When do the ABS workers start? Their first training will be April 1st. And

01:01:14.389 --> 01:01:19.614
- some of them will start Monday if this list is approved today.

01:01:22.402 --> 01:01:29.214
- I was going to suggest doing it all in once but it doesn't sound like that's going to be possible so

01:01:29.214 --> 01:01:36.229
- I will update that first highlighted date to February 13th and then the two additional dates to today's

01:01:36.229 --> 01:01:43.378
- date. This resolution was provided to the election board but it acknowledges the Indiana code that allows

01:01:43.378 --> 01:01:44.862
- the election board to

01:01:45.762 --> 01:01:52.781
- indicates the election board shall appoint ABS ballot counters, ABS voter board members and carriers.

01:01:52.781 --> 01:02:00.075
- By statute, the deadline for request should have been made by March 16th, and that deadline hasn't passed

01:02:00.075 --> 01:02:06.956
- yet. And then it gives the party chairs 46 days to respond or they have to respond 46 days prior to

01:02:06.956 --> 01:02:12.254
- the election. And it'll attach the exhibits and then it'll it indicates that

01:02:13.762 --> 01:02:19.986
- Pursuant to Indiana Code 311 544 23, the individuals listed in Exhibit A and Exhibit B, which I'm going

01:02:19.986 --> 01:02:26.448
- to mark the party chair list as are duly appointed as absentee voter board members for the primary election

01:02:26.448 --> 01:02:32.672
- occurring in May of twenty twenty six. The election board directs the Monroe County Circuit Court clerk

01:02:32.672 --> 01:02:39.135
- to administer the statutory required oath of office to each of the individuals listed within those exhibits

01:02:39.135 --> 01:02:40.990
- to finalize their appointment.

01:02:46.178 --> 01:02:53.089
- If these are for absentee, don't we consider that the primary election would start in April or do we

01:02:53.089 --> 01:03:00.206
- list the May date? The early voting starts in April is why I'm asking. I don't know what's appropriate.

01:03:00.206 --> 01:03:07.391
- It just says for the primary election scheduled in May of 2026. So it's not saying that they're starting

01:03:07.391 --> 01:03:14.302
- in May of 2026, that they're working that. What would be that election cycle? And I can add election

01:03:14.530 --> 01:03:27.326
- I really am asking. I don't know. If you're okay with that resolution and those updated dates, I would

01:03:27.326 --> 01:03:39.998
- advise a motion to pass that resolution. Motion. Second. Any discussion? In favor, aye. Aye. Opposed?

01:03:41.538 --> 01:03:48.887
- That means we don't sign the one we've got in front of us because we've been done. And then on that,

01:03:48.887 --> 01:03:56.236
- I will say that we will need to schedule a special meeting of the election board once we receive the

01:03:56.236 --> 01:04:02.494
- final list of all absentee workers. Right now, it was really a push to get these ones

01:04:02.658 --> 01:04:10.457
- put through so that they can start working on the absentee by mail applications, because ballots have

01:04:10.457 --> 01:04:18.714
- to be out by March 21st. So we want to make sure that they have enough time to get those put in, processed,

01:04:18.714 --> 01:04:26.895
- and then have time to get them stuffed and out in the mail. So do we need to come by your office tomorrow,

01:04:26.895 --> 01:04:29.342
- Monday, to sign the resolution?

01:04:29.794 --> 01:04:38.688
- I'm updating it right now and we'll have it ready for signature at the end of the meeting. Awesome.

01:04:38.688 --> 01:04:47.938
- So are we talking about a meeting next week? Let me get with both party chairs and see where they think

01:04:47.938 --> 01:04:53.630
- that they will be at. I know that they'll have to definitely be

01:04:55.682 --> 01:05:02.449
- appointed before they can do training. So they have to be appointed and approved by the election board

01:05:02.449 --> 01:05:09.412
- before their paperwork can be submitted to HR. You and I have an upcoming meeting with both party chairs.

01:05:09.412 --> 01:05:15.982
- I'm going to assume so that you can create an agenda for that meeting that you'll reach out to them

01:05:15.982 --> 01:05:22.682
- no later than Monday so that they can have what we need by that meeting. Molly, you said the deadline

01:05:22.682 --> 01:05:24.062
- for that's the 16th.

01:05:26.722 --> 01:05:33.957
- deadline to request is the 16th, and then the deadline for the submission by the party chairs is 46

01:05:33.957 --> 01:05:41.337
- days prior to election day, which I think puts it around maybe. But you need those ahead of the 21st.

01:05:41.337 --> 01:05:48.862
- It's painful for me to hear 21st like I want to hear sooner. Well, the ones that we won't you guys have

01:05:49.026 --> 01:05:55.911
- approved today, those are the ones for before the 21st. We're looking at all of the clerks that will

01:05:55.911 --> 01:06:03.342
- be working at early voting and all of the ballot counters and travel board members. Those are the additional

01:06:03.342 --> 01:06:10.568
- ones that will need to be appointed and then approved by the election board before they can start getting

01:06:10.568 --> 01:06:14.590
- their paperwork sent over to HR. So the sooner the better.

01:06:14.818 --> 01:06:27.068
- The first Thursday after the meeting that you and I have with the party chairs would be the 19th. So.

01:06:27.068 --> 01:06:40.158
- Available that day. Does it have to be on a Thursday? We will just have to check availability for this room.

01:06:43.778 --> 01:06:50.693
- So you need to check availability for the rooms and then reach out to us with what days we have this

01:06:50.693 --> 01:06:57.608
- room and that we could all get there. Is that? We could do that or if you guys just give me a couple

01:06:57.608 --> 01:07:04.591
- of days and then I can find which one the room is available. And are we wanting to still do 130? That

01:07:04.591 --> 01:07:11.438
- was gonna be my question. If all we're going to do is vote to approve people, I wouldn't think that

01:07:11.438 --> 01:07:12.670
- would be terribly

01:07:13.218 --> 01:07:25.076
- contentious at any point in time. You wanted to go earlier in the day or something? That is not spring

01:07:25.076 --> 01:07:36.589
- break week, is it? It is. It is. Some of us are too old to worry about it. Is it fair, like, what's

01:07:36.589 --> 01:07:40.158
- a reasonable amount of time to

01:07:40.514 --> 01:07:47.392
- report back on the availability of this room for the month of March. I can go check the availability

01:07:47.392 --> 01:07:54.201
- after this meeting. I was also going to say more so it's going to be on when the party chairs think

01:07:54.201 --> 01:08:01.215
- that they can make the appointments of all of their staffing for early voting counters for on Election

01:08:01.215 --> 01:08:06.526
- Day and travel board members because I know that's going to be quite a bit of

01:08:06.690 --> 01:08:13.208
- work that they need to complete and generally it's the lead to do the recruiting for all of the poll

01:08:13.208 --> 01:08:19.791
- workers at early voting. So it's going to be them starting and then having to immediately jump in and

01:08:19.791 --> 01:08:26.309
- start recruiting people to come work on early voting. So I'm more leaning on we need to see when the

01:08:26.309 --> 01:08:29.342
- party chairs think they can get us their list.

01:08:31.746 --> 01:08:38.732
- If I may I would suggest after March 20th because March 20th is the deadline for submission by the party

01:08:38.732 --> 01:08:45.584
- chairs so they have to have them in by March 20th and if they don't then there's a statutory procedure

01:08:45.584 --> 01:08:51.838
- for the election board to appoint individuals in that event so perhaps the week of March 23rd

01:08:56.834 --> 01:09:04.607
- I'm available on the 26th, which is I just say Thursdays for consistency because I know that we want

01:09:04.607 --> 01:09:12.687
- Thursdays, but I know you have some other considerations. Actually, both of my sons and daughter-in-laws

01:09:12.687 --> 01:09:20.844
- and kids are going somewhere on the 25th and 6th, and I kind of hate to blow that off. I could go earlier

01:09:20.844 --> 01:09:26.462
- in the week. I could go Tuesday morning. I could do Tuesday. Do Tuesday.

01:09:26.690 --> 01:09:33.398
- the Friday, too, if needed. I'm just wondering if you want to go have 24th at 130. Does that work? Yes.

01:09:33.398 --> 01:09:39.912
- Room is available. Yes. I would have to change an appointment. Well, we can let's let's. How about I

01:09:39.912 --> 01:09:46.556
- check availability on the 24th available and then reach back out to us? Yes, I can do that right after

01:09:46.556 --> 01:09:51.006
- the meeting and then we can just notice the meeting. OK, that works.

01:10:02.562 --> 01:10:13.657
- we need to approve training materials. There's also a resolution for this. I have a lot of comments

01:10:13.657 --> 01:10:24.752
- on the material highly sent out. Also, we have a letter from the Board of Commissioners about this,

01:10:24.752 --> 01:10:30.078
- but I've asked multiple times for the emergency

01:10:31.170 --> 01:10:40.255
- that plan for the elections. And I know that there was one from 2024. Does that need to be updated?

01:10:40.255 --> 01:10:49.794
- And for the 2024 presidential election, employing place security guidelines that came out from the state

01:10:49.794 --> 01:10:53.246
- that was published in August of 2024.

01:10:53.346 --> 01:11:00.165
- They indicate that it's important that emergency planning materials be reviewed, exercised, and tested

01:11:00.165 --> 01:11:06.919
- prior to election day. So I want to know when we're going to be doing this. I've asked multiple times

01:11:06.919 --> 01:11:08.574
- for a tabletop exercise.

01:11:09.410 --> 01:11:16.616
- It also indicates in the emergency policy plan that Monroe County adopted on October 15th of 2024. It

01:11:16.616 --> 01:11:23.823
- indicates on page two that each poll worker will receive information specific to his or her poll from

01:11:23.823 --> 01:11:31.029
- their inspector the Saturday before election day. I didn't see anything in the inspector slash judges

01:11:31.029 --> 01:11:38.942
- packet that indicated what that material should be. I didn't see any emergency planning stuff attached to their

01:11:39.042 --> 01:11:46.310
- training stuff at all. And I don't know if there's an emergency plan for early voting. I don't know

01:11:46.310 --> 01:11:53.941
- what happens if early voting has to be moved. I don't know what happens if there's an emergency at early

01:11:53.941 --> 01:12:01.500
- voting. What happens there? So there's a lot of questions for me that go into these training materials.

01:12:01.500 --> 01:12:06.878
- And then I can go through one by one about the different training things.

01:12:07.234 --> 01:12:13.461
- It might be easier if I may to suggest that you look at this in two different capacities because there's

01:12:13.461 --> 01:12:19.689
- training material for early voting and then there's training material for the precinct election officers

01:12:19.689 --> 01:12:25.738
- and there are two different statutes that govern what those training materials have to. So of the PAC

01:12:25.738 --> 01:12:29.534
- information that Kylie provided me, I attached anything that is

01:12:29.666 --> 01:12:38.468
- to a precinct election officer as an exhibit with a letter and anything for early voting as an exhibit

01:12:38.468 --> 01:12:47.271
- with a number, so the one thing that I would point out looking at absentee board members, the training

01:12:47.271 --> 01:12:55.902
- material is that Indiana code 311-1039 indicates that within the training material there needs to be

01:12:56.162 --> 01:13:04.649
- Information on election laws and penalties pertaining to the absentee board workers duties, and I didn't

01:13:04.649 --> 01:13:13.055
- see any of that in there so before you can approve the Absentee board voter one I do think the election

01:13:13.055 --> 01:13:21.299
- board should have a conversation on how they want to address that part of the statute And also one of

01:13:21.299 --> 01:13:23.966
- the things that I saw was that I

01:13:24.866 --> 01:13:32.079
- It indicates that the 50 foot chute that occurs at all the polling locations, and I understand why I

01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:39.435
- don't disagree with it, it's to be made from where the poll books are. And standard practice in Monroe

01:13:39.435 --> 01:13:46.863
- County has been the 50 foot chute starts at the outer door. And so I think that that needs to be really

01:13:46.863 --> 01:13:53.790
- clarified in the training material and it's not in there. It just says 50 foot chute. So I think

01:13:53.922 --> 01:14:00.689
- That's one of the things that needs to change. Bullbooks are at least five feet inside the door. At

01:14:00.689 --> 01:14:07.524
- some polling locations, they're 20 feet inside the door. And so that really changes what happens and

01:14:07.524 --> 01:14:10.366
- what the inspectors are instructed to do.

01:14:10.818 --> 01:14:18.593
- So on that one I will say in the past the election board has said from the door due to many of the polling

01:14:18.593 --> 01:14:26.150
- locations not wanting any campaigning material inside of their building and if some of them are further

01:14:26.150 --> 01:14:33.634
- into the building so for instance Bloomington High School South when you enter their building they are

01:14:33.634 --> 01:14:38.430
- much further than 50 feet from the door to where they do vote and

01:14:38.850 --> 01:14:45.264
- I know that them, for instance, do not want any campaign materials with inside of their building. Same

01:14:45.264 --> 01:14:51.553
- thing with churches. We've had that same situation. And then Boys and Girls Club has already told us

01:14:51.553 --> 01:14:58.092
- as well that it can't be with inside of their building as well. So that 50 foot shoot has always started

01:14:58.092 --> 01:15:04.443
- from the door of the building that they enter. And it's actually no longer a shoot. The state statute

01:15:04.443 --> 01:15:07.806
- changed and it is now a 50 foot radius from the door.

01:15:08.994 --> 01:15:16.375
- But it's not from the door. It's from the poll book. That statute. So as I said, most of the polling

01:15:16.375 --> 01:15:23.830
- locations do not want any campaigning material within their building. And so if we were to do it from

01:15:23.830 --> 01:15:31.357
- the polls, then there are spaces that polling sites that there would be it would be with inside of the

01:15:31.357 --> 01:15:35.742
- building that candidates could post their materials within.

01:15:40.578 --> 01:15:48.950
- Do you want me to look at the statute? I think it would solve any problems. I do understand what you're

01:15:48.950 --> 01:15:57.241
- talking about. Does South use that large group room? They use the white gym. Okay. Yep. Okay. And then

01:15:57.241 --> 01:16:05.854
- Unionville Elementary uses their gym as well and that's another one that's pretty far away from the doors.

01:16:06.658 --> 01:16:15.711
- I would say it's Sherwood Oaks Christian Church is another one that theirs is further into the building

01:16:15.711 --> 01:16:24.503
- and is much further than 50 feet from the door. I vote there, I know. We're asking for places to let

01:16:24.503 --> 01:16:33.731
- us use their buildings. I think it behooves us to cooperate with their requests. I concur. And a standard

01:16:33.731 --> 01:16:35.646
- 50 feet from the door

01:16:37.442 --> 01:16:45.165
- Because the schools are not gonna let people stand in there passing stuff out inside the buildings.

01:16:45.165 --> 01:16:53.042
- But an area outside of the door, I mean, most of us haven't driven around and looked at every polling

01:16:53.042 --> 01:16:59.838
- location, you know, just, okay, this is where they come in, this is what door they use.

01:17:05.570 --> 01:17:14.251
- Once you get inside the building, you're just walking to the spot. I just reached out to both Matt and

01:17:14.251 --> 01:17:22.849
- Valerie to see who will respond first. I pose that question to them. I am in agreement with you. And,

01:17:22.849 --> 01:17:31.530
- you know, certainly election laws change and they can change in, you know, whiplash fashion. But I can

01:17:31.530 --> 01:17:35.070
- remember when Assembly Hall was a polling

01:17:35.170 --> 01:17:44.914
- And those candidates were definitely outside of the door doing their electioneering. And so, you know,

01:17:44.914 --> 01:17:54.657
- that has always been my understanding as well, so that the voter is not unduly influenced right inside

01:17:54.657 --> 01:17:57.022
- of the polling location.

01:17:58.722 --> 01:18:06.288
- The statutory definition of a chute is the area that extends 50 feet in radius measured from the entrance

01:18:06.288 --> 01:18:13.568
- to the polls or for the purpose of early voting the office of the circuit clerk or a satellite office

01:18:13.568 --> 01:18:20.705
- of the circuit court clerk established under 311 to 1026.3. And then it goes on as to what to do if

01:18:20.705 --> 01:18:28.414
- that 50 foot radius ends up on a polling place property line. Okay, so it is from the entrance of the poll.

01:18:28.546 --> 01:18:36.572
- So then the training material for the clerks and sheriffs, item number one has to be changed. Ashley

01:18:36.572 --> 01:18:44.836
- just said that she will update it. Okay. Thank you, Miss Ashley. I've actually always found it sad that

01:18:44.836 --> 01:18:53.020
- people think that they can stand outside those places. And if you get to that point and you don't know

01:18:53.020 --> 01:18:57.470
- who you're going to vote for, I think it's kind of sad.

01:18:58.370 --> 01:19:06.283
- I mean, I've never yet had a sign outside the door change who I voted for, but whatever. Also in a number

01:19:06.283 --> 01:19:14.494
- of the places it says that yes, a 17-year-old can vote in the primary if they turn 18 on before the election.

01:19:14.786 --> 01:19:21.510
- day, the general election. I would like in all those situations that we list the actual dates so that

01:19:21.510 --> 01:19:28.168
- there's no confusion from the poll workers. And so it should be on or before November 3rd, 2026. And

01:19:28.168 --> 01:19:34.957
- that occurs in all the training manuals. I just think it's easier. You're not having to stop and think

01:19:34.957 --> 01:19:41.615
- about it. It's just a safety precaution, I think, for the workers. Then in all three of the training

01:19:41.615 --> 01:19:44.318
- things, the word affirmation needs to be

01:19:44.546 --> 01:19:53.952
- the spelling needs to be corrected. In the situations where it talks about voting in municipalities,

01:19:53.952 --> 01:20:03.917
- at least in two of the three packets it indicates that there's voting in Bloomington this year and there's

01:20:03.917 --> 01:20:08.574
- not. The only municipality voting is Ellitsville.

01:20:09.410 --> 01:20:16.035
- It was all of the training materials were updated. So we just sent over all training materials. It wasn't

01:20:16.035 --> 01:20:22.411
- just the municipal ones. I mean, the primary ones. But what I'm saying is, is that it indicates there

01:20:22.411 --> 01:20:28.724
- are two municipalities voting this year and there are not. There's only one. There are ward seats up

01:20:28.724 --> 01:20:35.037
- in Ellitsville, but there's no voting for city council mayor or city clerk in Bloomington this year.

01:20:35.037 --> 01:20:37.662
- The only municipality is for Ellitsville.

01:20:46.178 --> 01:20:54.680
- Then in multiple cases, you have decision trees where is it the correct address, yes or no? Is it correct

01:20:54.680 --> 01:21:02.861
- age, yes or no? But one of the decision tree is the voter at the correct polling site, yes or no? And

01:21:02.861 --> 01:21:11.443
- if it's no, you ask, they're given a provisional ballot. But I think that there should be another decision

01:21:11.443 --> 01:21:15.774
- tree that comes off of the no there where it does the

01:21:15.970 --> 01:21:23.067
- voter opt to go to the correct polling locations. And then if no, they get a provisional ballot. So

01:21:23.067 --> 01:21:25.054
- that's how it is described.

01:21:25.186 --> 01:21:31.125
- at training is that if, because on the poll book, if they are at the wrong polling location, it will

01:21:31.125 --> 01:21:37.063
- pop up on the polling book that they are at the wrong location. It will tell them the address of the

01:21:37.063 --> 01:21:42.943
- location they are supposed to go to with a map, and you can actually send them the directions as to

01:21:42.943 --> 01:21:48.823
- where to go to that location. And that is for if you have exerted all of your options, and then you

01:21:48.823 --> 01:21:54.174
- come to that. But in the decision trees, what I'm saying is that that fourth one, it says,

01:21:56.226 --> 01:22:03.391
- yes, they're at the correct place, or no, then it only goes to provisional ballots. I'm saying in the

01:22:03.391 --> 01:22:10.837
- training materials, it needs to be updated to reflect that particular decision. And the same thing occurs

01:22:10.837 --> 01:22:18.353
- in the early voting, that if they could say, I'm gonna wait till election day, or I'm gonna vote absentee,

01:22:18.353 --> 01:22:24.254
- or I just choose not to vote today, something like that, that it needs to be clean,

01:22:24.962 --> 01:22:30.894
- So I will say that the main reason for that is because in the past we've had where they wanted us to

01:22:30.894 --> 01:22:36.944
- make sure that we are offering a provisional ballot to every single person because you can't turn away

01:22:36.944 --> 01:22:42.818
- a voter. That's the reason that it has been described that way in all the training packets. Most of

01:22:42.818 --> 01:22:48.926
- this information and the training packets that we have are the same training packets that have been for

01:22:49.058 --> 01:22:59.687
- years they were handed down, and then we've made changes, and it's the same ones that have been approved

01:22:59.687 --> 01:23:09.911
- in the past as well. Then for valid IDs, you give examples of US passport and then Veterans Affairs.

01:23:09.911 --> 01:23:18.110
- I will ask, do any of the poll workers get confused and think that a military ID

01:23:18.786 --> 01:23:29.095
- is not eligible because it's not a veteran affairs one. No, they know all military IDs are acceptable

01:23:29.095 --> 01:23:39.404
- and they correspond the two of them together. And also several in all three packets on the same pages

01:23:39.404 --> 01:23:46.782
- where that affirmation is misspelled at the there's a box there and it's

01:23:47.970 --> 01:23:56.525
- I don't understand, let me get to one of these because I don't understand why it indicates in the poll

01:23:56.525 --> 01:24:04.832
- book that it would be absentee voter. Let's find the first incident of it. Ms. Giddens, would it be

01:24:04.832 --> 01:24:13.636
- helpful if I display one of the training materials for you? Sure. When looking at the clerks and sheriffs

01:24:13.636 --> 01:24:17.374
- to do list, for example, on page 10 of that,

01:24:18.434 --> 01:24:46.622
- Go down. At the bottom of that where it says alert supervisor, get there. I believe I had it displayed. Yeah.

01:24:46.754 --> 01:24:53.354
- after paperwork steps by the Inspector Touch process, and then why does it say absentee issued? Why

01:24:53.354 --> 01:25:00.152
- doesn't it say ballot issued? Because it was an absentee ballot that was issued, not a ballot that was

01:25:00.152 --> 01:25:06.884
- issued. That's a screenshot from our poll books directly. Okay, but this is, this doesn't follow from

01:25:06.884 --> 01:25:13.022
- what's right above that in my mind. I don't understand why you skipped to that, the process.

01:25:16.386 --> 01:25:24.122
- So it says we'll always ask if the address is correct, if it's out of date, you stop, you do updates,

01:25:24.122 --> 01:25:27.838
- and then all of a sudden it says absentee issue.

01:25:43.874 --> 01:25:51.024
- So this is just an example of what might pop up on a poll book if, like on election day, if somebody

01:25:51.024 --> 01:25:58.244
- asked for an absentee ballot to be sent, but they did not turn it back in. So technically they hadn't

01:25:58.244 --> 01:26:05.464
- voted. So this is what the poll workers would see on election day. So that's why that's there. That's

01:26:05.464 --> 01:26:08.862
- just an example of something that might pop up.

01:26:09.218 --> 01:26:14.574
- With this I think that that would help that that I don't know why this is showing this and I've worked

01:26:14.574 --> 01:26:20.034
- at the polls five times including with poll books so Okay. Yeah, cuz we this is on one of our slideshows

01:26:20.034 --> 01:26:25.338
- that we show in class and we do go over this extensively in class So I feel like by the time they see

01:26:25.338 --> 01:26:30.538
- this in the training on election day, they're gonna understand but yes, I will update something for

01:26:30.538 --> 01:26:31.422
- you confusion. I

01:26:40.354 --> 01:26:46.651
- the slides are the exact material that you guys are looking at, just put up onto a slide show so that

01:26:46.651 --> 01:26:52.825
- they can see it in a bigger format so that we can go along with them in the packets. Okay, so then,

01:26:52.825 --> 01:26:59.060
- in my mind, this is not clear why it came up that way. If you said, this is an example of what might

01:26:59.060 --> 01:27:04.740
- come up if the person had been mailed an absentee ballot but had not sent it back in. Yeah.

01:27:04.740 --> 01:27:08.382
- Because otherwise, you would have a ballot, I would think.

01:27:10.178 --> 01:27:16.404
- So I just want to clarify. The training materials are not just handed to them and then they go on and

01:27:16.404 --> 01:27:22.875
- read through them themselves. They are gone through step by step with them. Inspectors and judges classes

01:27:22.875 --> 01:27:28.979
- are two and a half hours, sometimes three depending on how many questions are asked, and the clerks

01:27:28.979 --> 01:27:35.144
- and sheriff classes are generally an hour, sometimes a little longer. That way it just clarifies for

01:27:35.144 --> 01:27:37.342
- anybody who is watching or present.

01:27:40.386 --> 01:28:09.310
- One for the inspectors and judges. Page 4. That's a long training piece.

01:28:09.570 --> 01:28:27.040
- It's over 82 pages in it. On page 4, item number 1, trying to get to it too real fast. I'm not sure

01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:31.582
- I've got the right thing.

01:28:43.138 --> 01:28:54.527
- You've got the Republican sign in and then touch username and then touch password and number button

01:28:54.527 --> 01:29:05.915
- to enter poll book Democrat password found, where it should be poll book Republican password found.

01:29:05.915 --> 01:29:12.862
- You've got Democrat password found two places. And I wonder,

01:29:13.186 --> 01:29:41.150
- And this is a question on page seven of that same. On the third entry there. Indicate that.

01:29:41.346 --> 01:29:47.574
- Under clerks, checking to ensure precinct on ballot matches the poll book, are the D initials in the

01:29:47.574 --> 01:29:54.111
- top box on the ballot? Should it also indicate that it's the R initials in the bottom box, just to ensure

01:29:54.111 --> 01:30:00.278
- that both boxes are filled? Because that was a problem in Brown County several years ago, that they

01:30:00.278 --> 01:30:01.758
- didn't fill both boxes.

01:30:10.274 --> 01:30:23.657
- It just ensures that both boxes are filled. That's all. And I may have missed this and were not understood

01:30:23.657 --> 01:30:35.038
- with the instructions. Where are they to store marked provisional ballots on Election Day?

01:30:35.522 --> 01:30:42.611
- envelopes that the provisionals go back into are then given back to the inspector. The inspector stores

01:30:42.611 --> 01:30:49.632
- them in the provisional canvas bag. That's what I thought. And then there was nothing indicated in the

01:30:49.632 --> 01:30:56.449
- training materials, and I know it's been done, so I'm not doubting it, but should there be anything

01:30:56.449 --> 01:31:03.606
- in there about verifying that the form was given to the voter on how to cure a provisional ballot? Yeah,

01:31:03.606 --> 01:31:05.310
- so while we're there, we

01:31:05.442 --> 01:31:12.773
- during the training, it is very distinctive. We go through provisionals, actually I would say for probably

01:31:12.773 --> 01:31:19.762
- the first half of the training classes, just about provisionals and other forms, and we actually walk

01:31:19.762 --> 01:31:26.750
- them physically through and have them fill out a provisional while they're there at training and make

01:31:26.750 --> 01:31:32.574
- sure that they are giving the inside form to the voter. What is an emergency ballot?

01:31:34.114 --> 01:31:40.259
- It's discussed on page 10. So an emergency ballot is going to be a individual who is a officer or fire

01:31:40.259 --> 01:31:46.224
- department or any of those situations where if they get a call while they're there, their ballot is

01:31:46.224 --> 01:31:52.309
- held. And then when they come back, they are issued an emergency ballot. Those are going to be any of

01:31:52.309 --> 01:31:58.454
- your emergency personnel who leave and come back because they'll have to void the original ballot they

01:31:58.454 --> 01:32:00.542
- had and then restart their ballot.

01:32:05.378 --> 01:32:13.294
- it'll show that they're already checked in so we can't reissue them a ballot. So we keep the ballot

01:32:13.294 --> 01:32:21.288
- that they were filling out and then issue them an emergency ballot and then void out their original.

01:32:21.288 --> 01:32:29.600
- Okay, so these are for first providers then? Yeah. Okay, that is not at all clear to me in the training.

01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:32.766
- Thank you. And there's a lot of places,

01:32:33.090 --> 01:32:43.262
- in this particular training thing where they talk about codes. And on page 11, I'm sorry to be so detailed,

01:32:43.262 --> 01:32:53.057
- but I think that these are things that we're responsible for. So I want to make sure that this is done.

01:32:53.057 --> 01:32:59.838
- Under station two, where it says power, blah, blah, blah, number three,

01:33:01.890 --> 01:33:13.999
- It says when screen says confirmation code, touch yes and close the polls on the screen. In every other

01:33:13.999 --> 01:33:25.641
- place it tells where a confirmation code is found, but I didn't see it there. It tells basically in

01:33:25.641 --> 01:33:31.230
- the instructor's manual. Sorry, my laptop died.

01:33:31.618 --> 01:33:37.898
- Yeah, yeah, understood. And then some of this appears to be taken from state code. And I don't think

01:33:37.898 --> 01:33:44.117
- we have an initial clerk and I don't think we have an assistive poll clerk. Is that correct? So the

01:33:44.117 --> 01:33:50.335
- initial clerk is going to be like the main clerk who is handling the poll book and then your second

01:33:50.335 --> 01:33:56.926
- is going to be the second. So there's always a bipartisan team. Your initial clerk is the first one who's

01:33:57.122 --> 01:34:04.197
- technically doing everything on the poll book, and then your second is the one that's sitting next to

01:34:04.197 --> 01:34:11.134
- them as the bipartisan team. Okay. And so that defines the color of their tags and stuff like that?

01:34:11.134 --> 01:34:18.209
- So their tags, everybody is just going to be clerks. They'll all say clerk, and then they'll have red

01:34:18.209 --> 01:34:23.966
- or blue determining their party affiliation so that it's visibly clear to a voter.

01:34:24.546 --> 01:34:30.421
- there's a bipartisan team to take care of them. Those rules can change throughout the day and stuff.

01:34:30.421 --> 01:34:36.470
- Correct. Right. Okay. Okay. I didn't. Yeah. Then if somebody earlier raised the issue of people working

01:34:36.470 --> 01:34:42.636
- half days, does something need to be in the training manual that if a new poll worker comes in the middle

01:34:42.636 --> 01:34:48.569
- of the day that the oath is readministered or something? I know that the inspector would do that, but

01:34:48.569 --> 01:34:51.070
- does it need to be in the training manual?

01:34:51.298 --> 01:34:58.459
- So in 2024, we did not have any half-day workers because we had found too many issues with it. And at

01:34:58.459 --> 01:35:05.689
- this point in time, we're currently still looking at doing no half-time workers for this election. But

01:35:05.689 --> 01:35:12.850
- if it comes down to it and we don't have enough people to work, then we will start adding in half-day

01:35:12.850 --> 01:35:19.870
- to make sure that we're able to fill everything. Understood. I hope that doesn't happen. We all do.

01:35:20.194 --> 01:35:29.294
- I think because it's too much of a hassle of making sure that somebody actually shows up and if they

01:35:29.294 --> 01:35:38.484
- don't then it's us having to send somebody out last minute. Way down on page 61 in there after it you

01:35:38.484 --> 01:35:43.710
- see that bright pink thing that says no ballot available.

01:35:49.922 --> 01:35:56.805
- There's a typo that I think changes the meaning. I mean, there are other typos that I just ignore this,

01:35:56.805 --> 01:36:03.687
- but it says if voter is not in the municipal and voter's address in the poll book is out of date, voter

01:36:03.687 --> 01:36:10.702
- registration would like to update their address if not is the voter willing, but if the voter is willing.

01:36:10.702 --> 01:36:17.982
- Again, if it didn't change the meaning of it, I wouldn't care. And then I don't see anything on the emergency

01:36:19.650 --> 01:36:26.773
- emergency evacuations. So all of the emergency planning. And I was told at an earlier meeting that it

01:36:26.773 --> 01:36:34.246
- would be included in these training packets. All of the emergency is within the binders that the inspector

01:36:34.246 --> 01:36:41.230
- gets. Those are not the training materials. Those are the information that is issued to each of the

01:36:41.230 --> 01:36:47.166
- inspectors, and it has all the information about their pull inside of those binders.

01:36:47.266 --> 01:36:55.277
- And in addition, the training is also in there in case if they forgot something or if they need to look

01:36:55.277 --> 01:37:03.133
- back at something. So they're not given emergency training per se. They're just given a checklist for

01:37:03.133 --> 01:37:11.298
- different situations. It's a it's generally a checklist. It's the plan that was set with Molly was there.

01:37:11.298 --> 01:37:14.302
- I was there. Twenty twenty four. Yeah.

01:37:15.298 --> 01:37:22.191
- There was a couple others. Jamie was there. I read it. Yep. That's the plan that we have. We also put

01:37:22.191 --> 01:37:29.017
- that into a couple of things. And then there are some step by steps of if this happens, this is what

01:37:29.017 --> 01:37:36.248
- you're supposed to do. And those are held in the binders for each of the polling locations because they're

01:37:36.248 --> 01:37:43.276
- designated for each polling location. I view that as part of the training material and think you should

01:37:43.276 --> 01:37:44.222
- have seen it.

01:37:59.010 --> 01:38:04.481
- Because the inspector has to know that material to be able to appropriately do his or her job. Yeah,

01:38:04.481 --> 01:38:09.953
- that's, I mean, it's in the binders that the inspectors pick up the Saturday before. They pick it up

01:38:09.953 --> 01:38:15.424
- the Saturday before so that they are able to review all the material and familiarize themselves with

01:38:15.424 --> 01:38:20.841
- everything that is in there. And then they set up the night before as well so that they are able to

01:38:20.841 --> 01:38:23.550
- physically see everything with their entire team.

01:38:26.178 --> 01:38:33.363
- I still think it should be included in the material that we have to approve. That is part of our role

01:38:33.363 --> 01:38:40.688
- on the election board. In multiple places in these training materials it also talks about an expiration

01:38:40.688 --> 01:38:47.732
- date and this is for what is a valid date on their ID. It just says expiration date of 11-5-2024. I

01:38:47.732 --> 01:38:54.775
- believe it should say on or after so that there's no confusion because it certainly could have been

01:38:54.775 --> 01:38:55.550
- that date.

01:39:01.122 --> 01:39:09.071
- And I still haven't heard what is going to happen for early voting if there's has to be an emergency

01:39:09.071 --> 01:39:17.019
- or if there's an alternate emergency vote early voting. That's the same plan that was established in

01:39:17.019 --> 01:39:24.889
- twenty twenty four. And you and I have a meeting that will include Miss Jamie next week. So I think

01:39:24.889 --> 01:39:30.398
- it's. We have these meetings yearly, so I know that I'm saying we can

01:39:30.562 --> 01:39:38.872
- I'm going to review it with Miss Jamie to determine if there needs to be any updates or changes. Yes.

01:39:38.872 --> 01:39:47.018
- But I heard that the December training that we should we the election board should be going through

01:39:47.018 --> 01:39:55.165
- a tabletop exercise, and I still have not heard anything about that. So I'm I mean, we were invited

01:39:55.165 --> 01:40:00.542
- to a tapered tabletop exercise in 2024. I haven't heard anything.

01:40:00.706 --> 01:40:09.209
- one being put on by the state yet or not, but that's generally the only tabletop exercises that we are

01:40:09.209 --> 01:40:17.383
- given. I have not received anything, but I can reach out to the Secretary of State's office today.

01:40:17.383 --> 01:40:26.216
- How many? How many? I'm right here. So one of the things that also indicates in what came out of Secretary

01:40:26.216 --> 01:40:30.014
- of State's office is that it would be good if

01:40:30.210 --> 01:40:40.189
- reach out to all the utility providers and make sure that no maintenance is scheduled near any of the

01:40:40.189 --> 01:40:49.972
- polling places on May the 5th on Election Day. Have you or your office been able to do that? I have

01:40:49.972 --> 01:40:59.070
- never seen any public utility place take care to not plan their activities around elections.

01:40:59.330 --> 01:41:11.206
- regarding issues at polling sites. We do our best to work with them. I think it's... I'm just asking

01:41:11.206 --> 01:41:23.082
- if that's been done because they don't necessarily have to keep track of where the polling locations

01:41:23.082 --> 01:41:27.198
- are. I think we can talk to Jamie.

01:41:27.714 --> 01:41:35.764
- can we put that on a list to talk to Jamie? Yeah. Just one more. Do we have any backup emergency sites?

01:41:35.764 --> 01:41:43.659
- Because that's one of the other things that's that's talked about in some of the emergency management

01:41:43.659 --> 01:41:51.787
- stuff in twenty twenty four. We had asked about having the courthouse this location actually as a backup

01:41:51.787 --> 01:41:55.038
- location in case if there was a situation

01:41:55.138 --> 01:42:01.955
- and we never heard back if that was okay or not. We did. We were told no. I would like to check with

01:42:01.955 --> 01:42:09.379
- the commissioner's office on that because I do not remember the ask. I remember the discussion of potentially

01:42:09.379 --> 01:42:16.196
- identifying polling locations, but I don't know that it wouldn't be on that discussion, so I'm happy

01:42:16.196 --> 01:42:22.878
- to check with the commissioners on that. It did. Commissioner Thomas said no. Well, given that the

01:42:24.098 --> 01:42:31.648
- the courthouse would be closed that day, be reasonable to ask? Yeah, that was one of my main reasonings

01:42:31.648 --> 01:42:39.197
- on that was because it is a county government building centralized in the middle of the county and that

01:42:39.197 --> 01:42:46.529
- it would be a quick location that we could easily access since it is the county and it already being

01:42:46.529 --> 01:42:51.102
- closed. We had looked at a couple of other options and I don't

01:42:51.490 --> 01:42:59.067
- because we looked at the library was proposed and the instructions were we had to talk to the trustees.

01:42:59.067 --> 01:43:06.352
- Ellitsville town hall was proposed. We would have to talk to Ellitsville and there is a location on

01:43:06.352 --> 01:43:13.710
- campus which required a conversation with the trustee or someone at campus and I do not think any of

01:43:13.710 --> 01:43:16.478
- the follow up conversations occurred.

01:43:16.738 --> 01:43:24.306
- appropriated items and locations that we had discussed and then We had planned to meet back and then

01:43:24.306 --> 01:43:31.875
- Election Day came around I'm just raising these questions because I've read about them and what came

01:43:31.875 --> 01:43:39.518
- out from the Secretary of State's office and I think that we need to be cognizant of these things and

01:43:43.490 --> 01:43:54.185
- I don't want an earthquake. I don't want any other natural disaster. I don't want other things to happen,

01:43:54.185 --> 01:44:04.477
- but they're all possible, especially given what's been happening around the country. Go ahead, Molly.

01:44:04.477 --> 01:44:09.118
- If I may, I think given the extensive list of

01:44:09.346 --> 01:44:17.045
- potential changes and the fact that you have to somehow address in the absentee board members providing

01:44:17.045 --> 01:44:25.040
- information regarding election laws and penalties per statute. It may be appropriate since we're scheduling

01:44:25.040 --> 01:44:32.590
- a special meeting in a few weeks to perhaps table this resolution to improve training materials until

01:44:32.590 --> 01:44:36.958
- that date so that the proposed changes can be incorporated

01:44:37.250 --> 01:44:48.059
- You have the opportunity to review it. Some information that is required by statute can be put in there,

01:44:48.059 --> 01:44:58.354
- and then you can revisit this. Great idea. I'd like to get more than 45 hours before the meeting. I

01:44:58.354 --> 01:45:06.590
- will move to table this until the meeting. Second. Discussion? Favor, aye. Aye.

01:45:07.042 --> 01:45:13.578
- Okay. We'll table that. Molly we need to talk about meal stipends it looks like. Actually I do not think

01:45:13.578 --> 01:45:19.864
- you need to talk about meal stipends. I haven't prepared that resolution yet because I'm researching

01:45:19.864 --> 01:45:26.213
- on who actually needs to adopt the resolution. Per Indiana code 36631 the commissioners as the county

01:45:26.213 --> 01:45:32.998
- legislative body sets an ordinance to provide meal allowances to precinct workers. There's not an equivalent

01:45:32.998 --> 01:45:36.670
- statute for absentee board workers so I need to figure out

01:45:37.154 --> 01:45:44.235
- if it's the county council who actually sets the per diem for absentee workers that would have to also

01:45:44.235 --> 01:45:50.559
- set a mill stipend for absentee workers which I think is the logical explanation or if it's

01:45:50.559 --> 01:45:57.777
- the commissioners. So I am going to figure that out and then probably hopefully by the special scheduled

01:45:57.777 --> 01:46:01.214
- meeting be able to propose a resolution that will

01:46:01.666 --> 01:46:10.495
- proposed to whatever the appropriate body is to make that correction to either their governing ordinance

01:46:10.495 --> 01:46:19.071
- or resolution or Monroe County code. So to be determined. Okay. That works. All right. Then we moved.

01:46:19.071 --> 01:46:27.647
- We have a letter from the commissioners. There's one more resolution. I think it's the yeah, it's was

01:46:27.647 --> 01:46:30.590
- actually the resolution of the ABA

01:46:30.786 --> 01:46:39.036
- ABS category. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, that's yours as well. I'm sorry. Go ahead. It's OK. So this resolution

01:46:39.036 --> 01:46:46.897
- in twenty twenty four, the county council passed resolution twenty twenty four twelve, which created

01:46:46.897 --> 01:46:54.991
- three ABS categories and depending on what category of certain position was placed in, determined their

01:46:54.991 --> 01:46:59.038
- pay. And that resolution provided that prior to the

01:46:59.298 --> 01:47:06.816
- election cycle the election board would place the ABS categories or ABS positions into one of the categories

01:47:06.816 --> 01:47:14.128
- so this is one updating this and so first I put the designations that were used in 2024 for clerk, travel

01:47:14.128 --> 01:47:21.302
- board and leads and then I added reconcilers to this resolution because they have never been previously

01:47:21.302 --> 01:47:25.854
- included in a resolution and so this resolution provides that ABS

01:47:26.050 --> 01:47:36.311
- clerks would be category A, ABS travel board and reconcilers are category B and ABS leads are category

01:47:36.311 --> 01:47:46.772
- C. And then if you adopt this resolution a copy is to be provided to the county council. I see no reason

01:47:46.772 --> 01:47:55.838
- not what else does. Motion to adopt. Second. Those in favor. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

01:47:59.778 --> 01:48:08.342
- Mr. Chair, I just got a text from the Secretary of State's office regarding the tabletop exercise session,

01:48:08.342 --> 01:48:16.505
- and they are still waiting for their DHS grant. That's what pays it, because they bring, they use all

01:48:16.505 --> 01:48:24.588
- 92 counties. All 92 counties are welcome to participate. And so that would have been how they funded

01:48:24.588 --> 01:48:28.510
- it. We went to Scott County? Yeah, I believe so.

01:48:28.706 --> 01:48:40.410
- So that is directly from the Secretary of State's office. They are still awaiting their DHS grant. That

01:48:40.410 --> 01:48:51.664
- doesn't preclude us from having our own local, does it? Well, until we got direction from the state

01:48:51.664 --> 01:48:57.854
- as to how to handle it. My comfort level would be that

01:48:58.594 --> 01:49:07.187
- we participate in the one directed by the Secretary of State because the Secretary of State obviously

01:49:07.187 --> 01:49:15.949
- has access to the most intel to create the tabletop exercises that we would work with. Ironically, when

01:49:15.949 --> 01:49:24.458
- Kylie and I went, one of them was a cybersecurity breach after that had just happened here in Monroe

01:49:24.458 --> 01:49:27.070
- County. And so I can reach out

01:49:27.490 --> 01:49:35.335
- Again, to see if they can give us the materials that they used then, to see if there's ones that we

01:49:35.335 --> 01:49:43.180
- could do ahead of the primary. But my comfort level would be the one directed from the secretary. I

01:49:43.180 --> 01:49:51.495
- would agree that the people that do it for a living would be better than those of us that would be trying

01:49:51.495 --> 01:49:56.830
- to present. Oh, I was envisioning having our own emergency manager.

01:49:57.922 --> 01:50:05.736
- Jamie was with us when we attended that. Yeah Jamie had came with us to that tabletop exercise and it

01:50:05.736 --> 01:50:13.397
- was a really great experience. It was able and that's what really got our connection with Jamie and

01:50:13.397 --> 01:50:21.365
- now she's constantly we're in great communication with her and she will be at the two or three meetings

01:50:21.365 --> 01:50:25.502
- that no two meetings that we'll have very shortly and

01:50:26.370 --> 01:50:40.067
- And then she also keeps us updated on election day as well. And during early voting if there's anything

01:50:40.067 --> 01:50:54.686
- that we need to be concerned of. Right. And I think we do move to the letter. I was surprised to receive this.

01:50:54.786 --> 01:51:03.893
- Who are the outside actors that we're talking about? Where did the indication that these outside actors

01:51:03.893 --> 01:51:13.000
- are coming? Where did that come from? Do we have any idea? I'm not sure. The letter was sent to me from

01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:21.757
- Jeff Cockrell and asked me to pass it along to the election board. So one thing I do, Mr. Chair, is

01:51:21.757 --> 01:51:23.070
- because I have

01:51:25.122 --> 01:51:33.415
- connections with the Secretary of State's office. I do regularly ask as we approach the primary if there

01:51:33.415 --> 01:51:41.312
- is anything because they're going to have the most up-to-date intelligence. If there is anything of

01:51:41.312 --> 01:51:49.921
- which Monroe County should be aware, they obviously also have a plan to notify clerks for impacted counties.

01:51:49.921 --> 01:51:52.606
- So I am not aware at this time of

01:51:54.146 --> 01:52:03.143
- any threat to Monroe County because of intelligence received about bad actors. But I'm happy to visit

01:52:03.143 --> 01:52:12.405
- that again. Well, it also seems to me that maybe just a little bit of redoing what we just talked about.

01:52:12.405 --> 01:52:21.755
- That's how I felt when I saw it. We already work with emergency management services. So there's no reason

01:52:21.755 --> 01:52:23.166
- for that to not

01:52:23.522 --> 01:52:30.927
- I'm sorry, there's no reason for that to change. Jamie has been phenomenal, incredible to work with,

01:52:30.927 --> 01:52:38.480
- perfectly available. We have her cell phone number. Even though that's a day she could be sleeping in,

01:52:38.480 --> 01:52:46.325
- she is at the ready to respond in real time should we have issues. And we will be in meetings that include

01:52:46.325 --> 01:52:48.158
- her beginning next week.

01:52:49.602 --> 01:52:57.275
- She's really good also about reaching out to us throughout the day to see if there's anything that we

01:52:57.275 --> 01:53:05.324
- need also to just give us updates or to ask us if there's any updates for her. She's been great throughout

01:53:05.324 --> 01:53:12.922
- the whole process. We've just discussed being prepared. And there are people who gather intelligence

01:53:12.922 --> 01:53:14.878
- that we are not. Correct.

01:53:15.490 --> 01:53:24.085
- We had the discussion last night working at the basketball game, those of us that work in lobbies, if

01:53:24.085 --> 01:53:33.102
- somebody was, had planned something, intelligence, if they had intelligence on that, we would have lobbies

01:53:33.102 --> 01:53:41.613
- with CRO anywhere. So unless they have something that we anticipate, and they're a lot, intelligence

01:53:41.613 --> 01:53:44.478
- a lot more frequently than we do,

01:53:45.730 --> 01:53:55.131
- I think the plan that we were talking about, go to the tabletop thing, to me that seems to be sufficient.

01:53:55.131 --> 01:54:04.000
- I think this is another reason for our residents to sign up for the emergency alert that the county

01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:12.958
- has available since that is one of the ways that Ms. Nibel alerts our residents if there's a change.

01:54:15.842 --> 01:54:25.499
- We can do that. Anything from any of the board? Due to the length of where we have been, if there is

01:54:25.499 --> 01:54:35.347
- public comment that ties to something that this board does or votes on, we would be okay with comment.

01:54:35.347 --> 01:54:40.606
- Other than that, I would like to move that we adjourn.

01:54:48.482 --> 01:54:58.706
- something that we deal with here. Three minutes. And there's also a hand on line and we have a hand.

01:54:58.706 --> 01:55:09.234
- OK, so. And I wanted to thank Penny Giddens for her thorough work that she just performed today. That's

01:55:09.234 --> 01:55:18.142
- that's amazing in the training material. I appreciate that. That's that's a good thing.

01:55:18.498 --> 01:55:27.431
- I came here with a timed, prepared speech each meeting. I use every second of my tiny three minutes

01:55:27.431 --> 01:55:36.453
- that I am lauded when I prepare. I wanted to know why an adjournment was called while I was speaking

01:55:36.453 --> 01:55:40.830
- last week. I felt it was rude and disrespectful.

01:55:40.930 --> 01:55:48.146
- That was the kind of disrespect I experienced working at Election Central in 2023. And it's the kind

01:55:48.146 --> 01:55:55.791
- of experience that Republicans have been experiencing from Democrats. And it's the violence that Americans

01:55:55.791 --> 01:56:02.936
- experience from predators today. And we wonder why there's political violence by leftist extremists

01:56:02.936 --> 01:56:10.366
- and mentally unstable domestic terrorists, which is important concerning talking about emergency intel.

01:56:10.850 --> 01:56:18.198
- You know, hate creates hate, hope and change. That's not what I've seen. I've seen hate and chaos. Democrats

01:56:18.198 --> 01:56:24.940
- have created this, all of this. When words are met with violence, when our civilization has fallen,

01:56:24.940 --> 01:56:31.681
- humanity hasn't evolved with the advent of technology, it has devolved. And as the predators become

01:56:31.681 --> 01:56:38.827
- more cunning with their mimicking abilities and their skillful illusions, they are able to take advantage

01:56:38.827 --> 01:56:39.838
- of the sedated

01:56:39.938 --> 01:56:46.165
- masses who have become increasingly lazy in their thinking and their sense of self-preservation. They've

01:56:46.165 --> 01:56:52.688
- lost their ability to question everything around them, including those they elect in a system of manufactured

01:56:52.688 --> 01:56:58.737
- informed consent. I had something completely different prepared for today's three minutes, but again,

01:56:58.737 --> 01:57:04.786
- it's like being in junior high. I am absolutely astonished at the behaviors of the adults these days,

01:57:04.786 --> 01:57:07.870
- and we wonder why our children have become violent.

01:57:08.386 --> 01:57:15.018
- They are the product of the adults in a society that surrounds them. I have no hope when I see elected

01:57:15.018 --> 01:57:21.651
- leaders behave like bullying children. We might as well admit that we have become an idiocracy. We use

01:57:21.651 --> 01:57:28.154
- our opposable thumbs every day as operating these mobile devices. Specifically, my profession in the

01:57:28.154 --> 01:57:34.078
- United States Army, that I was required to hold a top secret clearance to perform the work.

01:57:34.274 --> 01:57:40.780
- It was also the same army where I experienced racism against me and other white women, and the same

01:57:40.780 --> 01:57:47.546
- army where I experienced sexual harassment by both male and females. No, humans don't change. They just

01:57:47.546 --> 01:57:54.052
- become more skillful at avoiding accountability. My point, I get three minutes. I will finish those

01:57:54.052 --> 01:58:00.753
- three minutes now from last week. To recap, what happened to go-high Mr. Obama? Oh, that's right, your

01:58:00.753 --> 01:58:03.550
- team lied, and they keep lying. Know what?

01:58:03.842 --> 01:58:11.191
- The most terrifying part is the fact that our real enemies are in our own government. That was 16 words,

01:58:11.191 --> 01:58:18.539
- and that was 16 words cut off. The irony of those last 16 words, enemies in our own government. Perfect.

01:58:18.539 --> 01:58:26.238
- To just clarify, the reason at the last meeting was that the three minutes had expired. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

01:58:31.138 --> 01:58:37.308
- I have to I have to say my name. I have to do all that I don't know about how that and I time it I time

01:58:37.308 --> 01:58:43.596
- this to where it's right in there and we don't push the button to start the timer either Yeah, and that's

01:58:43.596 --> 01:58:49.528
- my point. It's like if you're following something that they're doing it then I become the victim of

01:58:49.528 --> 01:58:55.638
- that kind of thing and and even a Warning that somehow I've gone over. I can't monitor it here either.

01:58:55.638 --> 01:58:56.350
- I don't see

01:58:56.482 --> 01:59:04.892
- I don't see anything that says, oh, hey, you've got 20 more seconds. You know, I'm up here just going

01:59:04.892 --> 01:59:12.889
- by my own timing and I, I, I spend hours making sure I'm in that time limit. We appreciate that.

01:59:12.889 --> 01:59:21.298
- Thank you. Well, we have a hand up. It says RB and all we have is RB. It's Mr. Rita Barrow. Okay. Ms.

01:59:21.298 --> 01:59:24.926
- Barrow, go ahead. It looks like she's been.

01:59:28.002 --> 01:59:36.542
- It's like they moved her up to give her microphone. Ms. Barrow, could you unmute yourself also, perhaps?

02:00:00.322 --> 02:00:12.014
- Yes, Katz, can you confirm if she is still there? And if so, why we can't hear if she's talking to us?

02:00:12.014 --> 02:00:23.707
- Okay. There she goes. Can you hear me now? Go ahead. I just wanted to, I'm requesting to you guys, and

02:00:23.707 --> 02:00:29.950
- I just wanted to let you know if you need an emergency

02:00:32.706 --> 02:00:44.397
- during this. Van Buren's community center is open to you. Okay, thank you. That is incredibly generous.

02:00:44.397 --> 02:00:55.638
- The newly completed community center, yes. All right, thank you very much. So you guys made note of

02:00:55.638 --> 02:01:02.270
- that over there, correct? Okay. Motion to adjourn. Second?

02:01:02.562 --> 02:01:11.155
- favor aye aye we will meet again sometime this month for the testing when we have the other testing

02:01:11.155 --> 02:01:12.702
- yes and then when