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- because it's nine o'clock. Officially it will stop if the clock dings above us. The special meeting

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- of October 14th. The election board is called to order. We have minutes will deal with those that are

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- next official regular meeting, I believe. So election central update from. I like. OK, so I wanted to

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- give a little bit of an update.

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- some people are aware, some people are not, but we do have a early voting dashboard on the Monroe County

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- website. It is actually in two different locations, might be three, I know for sure it's on the home

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- page of the Monroe County website, the voter registration and possibly on the election board as well.

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- I haven't been able to check if it's there.

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- But we are currently at three thousand three hundred and fifty nine voters as of the end of day yesterday

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- and yesterday was also our largest turnout day with six hundred and seventy three voters.

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- Right now, our registered voter total is the 91,488. We do still have some that are in pending and some

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- that are also still in incomplete. Those will be finalized, I believe it's today. Yeah, I'm pretty sure

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- it's today is the last day for us to finalize those. And then the last day for anyone to send a request

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- for an absentee ballot by mail is October 22nd. And travel board will begin tomorrow.

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- Thank you. I have a question. Yes. And of course it involves money. You know what that does. According

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- to my wife who works has worked afternoons. People at work the morning shift or do it 745 are they on

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- the clock at 745.

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- I'm not sure how they're clocking in right now on the time sheet because it's a written time sheet that

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- they do clock in on. We have said that you round up so it would be eight o'clock would be the time that

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- they would start. Some people are showing up at 745 like our leads who are there to try to get things

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- ready and get everything set up and ready for the day. So they would be clocking in at that earlier

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- time. The reason I ask is she works the afternoon shift and that overlap

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- I think it was yesterday. Okay yeah so I'm right now I am getting ready to look at increasing the number

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- of workers that are at early voting. For the remainder of the week starting tomorrow because of the amount of

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- back up that we have had. Our lines have been wrapping into that entryway and people are just jamming

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- as many people as they can into that little foyer area right there in the entrance. And so that's something

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- that I want to try to prevent from happening and want to just continue getting that line flowing quicker.

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- OK, thank you. That was just a. She asked me and I said, I don't know. OK, we have some resolutions

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- that we need to vote on.

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- I said we could just handle all of them at once. We're revisiting, correct, Mr. Chair, that we revisiting

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- the ones that we voted on last week. I think you're revisiting at least one because that one needed

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- to include a list that we did not have last week, and I think we have it now.

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- Yeah, so I think you're going to ratify the student election one for lack. I think it's called the Hoosier

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- Hall Pass Workers Resolution. It is. I think that is the one that gets ratified and the rest of them

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- can get approved.

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- Mr. Chair, Kylie, myself and the recruiters were at Bloomington High School North last week, and it

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- turned into a little competition between North and South, but we were successfully able to get a significant

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- number of high 16 and 17 year olds willing to serve on election day, incredible young people. And so

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- I will happily make the motion to

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- to adopt the Hoosier Hall Pass Workers Resolution today. I'll second. I think that's a good competition

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- to have. It was fabulous. So how many do we have now total? So the total number I'm not for sure on.

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- I have the whole list.

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- And we definitely have over 100 because from Bloomington North, we had 94 students register to work

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- on Election Day and from Bloomington South, we had 84. And then we also have Seven Oaks Lighthouse Christian

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- Academy, Edgewood High School, and then homeschooled students as well who have signed up. So you could

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- get to 200? Oh, easily. Well, that's good news.

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- I thought it was really cute when the principal got on the after the lunch period. He said he refers

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- to a school on the southern end of town and tells what numbers that they have. And then he says something

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- to the effect of. But because the Cougars really come out and turn out for their community, we're happy

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- to report. And then he names the number. It was just an incredible opportunity. And they had another

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- thing going on at the same time. So we got lots of student attention

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- was amazing. Okay, that works. Um, do we have any discussion about the Hoosier Hall pass resolution

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- that. Those in favor I I opposed. All right, so we don't need to do anything with the other ones about

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- the sheriff's and the workers because we passed it and now we've got. We've got from both parties. Uh,

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- emails that they approve the people, correct? Yes, so I received

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- The email from the Republican Party yesterday and then the letter from the Democratic Party is dated

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- yesterday as well. Both of them did submit their letters and then they are referring to the list that

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- the recruiters use. I have emailed all three of you as well as Molly and Jeff the list.

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- of all of the workers, that's including your inspectors, judges, clerks, sheriffs, and Hoosier Hall

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- Pass students. They're all in one document. That way it's easier for you guys to review. We got that

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- this morning. Yes. That was the email that was sent out this morning. And then the list will be attached

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- to the resolution as well. I do think you need to approve the resolution.

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- the resolution that was approved the last time was the inspectors and judges to admit them to be able

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- to have training in the last two weeks. And then, um, this one is now including

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- Are you moved? Do you need a second? We need a second second. Discussion. Those in favor I I posed.

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- Alright. Oh, then I guess we're ready to move on to the discussion of the ballot. Mr. Chair, if I can

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- explain enhanced voting and then I have a letter that I'd like to read into the minutes. I think we

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- can clear this issue up pretty quickly.

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- with your go ahead. Go ahead. Um, last week I received an email from one of the absentee board members

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- at election central expressing concern for the enhanced voting as the method of delivering an email

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- online ballot to our military and overseas as well as our voters with vision and print disability. Um,

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- and so, um,

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- It was a rather lengthy letter. I was threatened with, if you don't do this, I will do this. And so

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- I reached out to the Secretary of State's office, some other clerks, just to understand, is this a statewide

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- issue of which I was not aware? It turned out it was not. In fact, Monroe County is the only county

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- having an issue. But I was able to get some information that I believe I'll be able to clarify. And

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- I'm going to ask Kylie to help me with this.

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- Kylie, is it correct that the number of voters who use the enhanced voting amounts to 1% of all registered

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- voters in Monroe County? Yes. So the correct number of individuals who are eligible to use this is 601

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- as of today. Is it correct that of that 1%, 12 people had issues?

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- right around that number. It's an estimate of 12 individuals who had an issue. And that only amounts

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- to 2% of that 1%. Yes, ma'am. And we would have that with regular absentee by mail, election day voting.

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- There's nothing you touch that doesn't have like a 1% error rate, correct? Yes, ma'am. And then do I

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- also understand that all issues for those 12 people have been resolved?

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- Yeah, so our absentee staff has been working digitally as well as myself on ensuring that those are

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- getting corrected. I've been back and forth in communication with enhanced at the beginning when we

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- were really seeing some larger issues that were resolved very quickly. I would say, if anything, we

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- were aided

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- to be updated and it was because they were going back to their developmental team and getting answers

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- and making sure that they had a full answer for us before they returned to us. And in addition to that,

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- anything that did come back as having an error, our absentee staff has reached out to them directly

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- through an email to ensure that those issues were resolved so that the voters votes would be counted.

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- What I understood in reaching out to other clerks was that

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- yet they have a few people but nothing huge and they just walk those people through that, correct? And

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- so this is the issues that brought up this concern are unique to Monroe County. No other county in Indiana

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- is having this issue. So there's not a problem with the system. There's a problem with the user, correct?

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- Yes. So in terms of what Enhance

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- that voting has relayed to us is when they go in and do the research on the issues that we have seen

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- and reported to them, they go back and they can do a full rundown of the steps that that voter takes

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- and seeing where the error happens exactly. And they have said that the almost 100%, I believe there's

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- maybe one or two that it wasn't and they were able to fix those have been user errors.

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- Mr. Chair, if I could read into the minutes a letter from the Secretary of State's office that I provided

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- to both election board members. Please do. Monroe County, dear Monroe County election board members,

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- it has come to the attention of the Indiana Secretary of State's office that questions were raised regarding

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- the use of enhanced voting's enhanced ballot for print disabled and

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- UOCAVA voters. To date, we are unaware that other Indiana counties or other states utilizing this service

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- have reported similar issues. It is our understanding that all reported concerns were submitted to enhanced

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- voting and have been acknowledged and resolved within one business day. Please note that the system

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- was reviewed prior to this year's primary election and approved for use by the co-directors of the Indiana

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- Election Division. The system is designed for ease of use,

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- has undergone accessibility testing and is fully integrated with the statewide voter registration system,

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- also known as SVRS, for election compatibility. We understand that the vendor provided several training

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- opportunities detailed

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- We will continue to provide user manuals and continue to provide user support. Indiana counties have

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- other options to administer accessible and overseas ballots and comply with federal requirements. We

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- are interested in hearing about your concerns and will be happy to follow up with enhanced voting if

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- you do not believe your concerns are being heard or responded to.

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- I would recommend changing accessible ballot vendors or discontinuing use of the enhanced voting application

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- at this time, less than three weeks from the general election, and that is signed by the Secretary of

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- State's attorney. Thank you, thank you. I have some questions about some of this also, and I I had sent

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- this to Molly and. I lay unto Mr Branham.

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- First of all, I wanted to know what training local workers had with enhanced voting.

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- So enhanced voting held a online virtual training that everybody was eligible to partake in anybody

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- who had access to SVRS at the time which all of our staff members did would have received a invitation

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- to this to join that training as well as that is recorded and they can go back at any time to watch

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- it but in addition to that in the primary when we used it for the first time they sent

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- training manuals that are a step by step guide. And in my opinion, I believe this step by step guide

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- is more user friendly than the video training that they had held. And that's the source that I go back

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- to. If I have a question, I go back to that manual and just look for it. It's very well laid out and

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- easy to use. So how many received training?

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- I know I for sure received the training as well as my two full time staff members. And then I'm not

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- sure of anybody else who logged in during that training. OK, so that would include the two that are

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- overseeing the absentee ballots. You don't know if they see it and then they work below and they do

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- the hands on mostly, but I'm the one that does the setup of the entire system itself. And there was

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- an issue about the signatures that are

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- required, has that been fully resolved?

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- That is one of the things that we reached out to them about to see what was going wrong with the signatures

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- not appearing on our end, but voters saying that they did know that they had signed it. This is something

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- that we are both looking at on the county level, but also in the enhanced level. Enhanced has looked

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- at it and seen that there are no signatures on their side of the document, so they believe that the

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- signature got missed when they were clicking through to do that.

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- does that doesn't invalidate the ballot then that we don't have the signatures if we don't have the

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- signatures currently the absentee staff is emailing them a copy of that affidavit affidavit and they're

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- signing and sending it back to us through an email so it maintains the okay yes then the email that

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- was forwarded to me from my party chair indicated that a few of the i don't know if they were military

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- overseas voters had actually

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- mailed instead of emailed back their ballot that's a concern because they're not in the correct kind

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- of sign envelopes what again what does that do to the validity of the ballot so we've asked enhanced

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- about that that was an option that the secretary of state's office chose to leave as an option for them

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- to have that ability to print it and send it back to us it doesn't change anything we still process

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- it the same way so those ballots that are being

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- done inside of enhanced ballot have to be remade with a official ballot by a bipartisan team for election

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- day for it to be scanned through our system through heart. So it's not going to change the system that

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- we're using currently. It just comes back, goes into an envelope for us to keep it secure. It's a separate

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- envelope than what they're mailing it back in.

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- and we put it into a envelope in our office that's being used for all military and overseas and VPD

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- ballots, and then they will be remade on election day. You indicated that Monroe County started to use

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- this in the primary. Was that just for the print challenged voters or was it also for the overseas and

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- military? We were supposed to use it for military and overseas, but in the primary it was used for VPDs only.

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- I had reached out to Kylie first with these questions. These were not just hitting her. No, you're fine.

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- I seen them and I wanted to wait until the meeting that away that it was public so that everybody had

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- them and not just in an email. Appreciate that very much. Thank you. But I think that also that. If

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- there's a problem and I'm not saying this isn't directed toward you, but if there's a problem with any

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- ballot that it's our responsibility to

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- make sure that that voters. Intention is honored, whether it's 1% or half of 1% or not. Then also. And

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- I'm not sure whether or not to direct this to Jeff or not, but it's my understanding that the election

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- board is supposed to approve any any kind of. Process. Of this kind of software and I don't recall having

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- this go before us.

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- And clearly, I don't know if it did go before you. But I do think that this is an option. I mean, it's

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- not the required. So I would assume that there would be a decision point with the election board on

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- utilizing this or not. And again, I don't know if it went through a meeting and it got approved or not.

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- I do think that it's clearly a state program. And the state has some confidence in it and went through

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- a nice, robust process to choose it. I'm just saying that

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- that this election board was not made aware of this until there was a problem. And I feel that it's

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- our responsibility to actually approve anything like this. When this was presented to the Clerks Association,

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- my understanding was that it had already been approved for use. I did not realize that it was optional

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- and that the

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- have to approve it. It was as you heard me say it was approved by the co directors of the Indiana Election

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- Division. It was passed on to us at conferences. We are the only county that is having an issue. Other

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- counties love this. Um and so. You have options after my understanding is, um.

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- elections and then the next secretary of state will have an option as to whether to continue with enhanced

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- voting. Again, every type of voting has some type of error rate. Yes, I agree with you. It

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- is our responsibility to help that voter. But you and I both know that all three of us will be reconciling

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- ballot ballots even on elect. I'm sorry up to Election Day for people who we're trying to ascertain

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- their voter intent.

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- This is no different. So to to blow this up like it is something like something nefarious is going on

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- was simply unnecessary at a time where we are trying to get through a very better than expected turnout

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- election. Thank you. I also want to add that at the state conference in December,

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- They the way that it was printed presented for the enhanced ballot was that this is what we're using

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- and it wasn't necessarily brought across as an option while at that conference because I had stopped

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- and talked to both Angie and Matthew about

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- the enhanced because we had used we hadn't used it yet because it was the primary was coming up. That

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- would have been the first time that we used it. And I asked them some questions at that time. And the

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- way that it was presented to me was definitely more so of this is what we're using and less of a you

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- have an option to use this. So that's why I want to have thought that it would have came across to the

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- election board as a vote. But then again, I. I'm just the election supervisor.

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- And I when I actually read the contract between the Secretary of State's office and enhanced voting

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- LLC, it said that it would be made available. It did not. The contract did not say that this is something

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- that would be used statewide. In presentation is everything the presentation and you were there was

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- indicative that it did not. It appeared that it was a done deal to me and and I it sounds like more

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- than one person thought that.

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- Yeah, I'll just add that I've not received a copy of the contract. That generally is something that

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- would go to the clerk and. Yeah, I mean, I've not seen contract and I've not been able to get access

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- to a contract either, so and I don't have a contract because obviously a contract would have had to

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- have some review and so I think the contract that the state had, which I found online.

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- I just want to clarify there is no local contract here this is a contract with the with the state of

00:22:26.826 --> 00:22:32.284
- Indiana with the vendor and the state of Indiana has made that available for us to use we would not

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- review that contract because it's not ours we're not paying anybody for it's a free service to us for

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- this so we wouldn't we wouldn't review that contract because that has been reviewed by the attorney

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- general's office and and done at the state level

00:22:46.338 --> 00:22:52.987
- I totally agree. I just didn't saying that there's nothing in the contract that's that specifies that

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- this is to be used throughout the state. That's all. So we get this from the state. Are we paying them

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- for this? My understanding is that it is provided to all the counties free of charge is being paid for

00:23:06.414 --> 00:23:13.258
- by the state. We chose to use something else from somebody else. Would we have to pay for that? Probably

00:23:13.258 --> 00:23:16.126
- assuming there's a cost associated with it.

00:23:16.258 --> 00:23:24.528
- Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Chair, just in terms of trying to close this loop again, all reported concerns

00:23:24.528 --> 00:23:32.482
- worse that were submitted to enhance voting have been acknowledged and have been resolved within one

00:23:32.482 --> 00:23:40.909
- business day. I haven't been into early voting a lot, but sitting in there, there are people that struggle

00:23:40.909 --> 00:23:45.950
- with. Filling in a box. I mean, it just. Nothing is going to be

00:23:46.722 --> 00:23:55.742
- that nobody has an issue with it. Correct. And if those issues are resolved, it's fine with me.

00:23:56.450 --> 00:24:03.616
- I believe that a competitor of enhanced voting would be democracy live. That is also available free

00:24:03.616 --> 00:24:10.997
- for use of counties. I spoke with the Marion County clerk the other night, and I believe that they use

00:24:10.997 --> 00:24:18.306
- democracy live. So there is no payment. It is just designed to make it easier. And how many voters do

00:24:18.306 --> 00:24:25.758
- we have at this time, Kylie? Overall, yes, like registered voters. Yes, 91,000 91,000 of 91,012 people.

00:24:25.954 --> 00:24:34.733
- that has been resolved. We can hold the hands of 12 people and get them through this like we do any

00:24:34.733 --> 00:24:43.600
- other voter that we have an issue and we're trying to reconcile. So that they can successfully vote.

00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:52.554
- Thank you, Mr Chair. Thank you, Claire Brown. I have a question. When we used Omni ballot in 2024, do

00:24:52.554 --> 00:24:54.398
- you know if that was

00:24:54.562 --> 00:25:02.017
- the same situation of where it wasn't approved but used, or was it one that was brought to the election

00:25:02.017 --> 00:25:09.185
- board for approval beforehand? I am not aware of Omni Ballot being brought to the election board. I

00:25:09.185 --> 00:25:16.354
- was just curious because I was wondering how that transition would have looked if it was one of the

00:25:16.354 --> 00:25:22.590
- ones that we did have approved by the election board prior. Yeah, just curious, sorry.

00:25:23.810 --> 00:25:31.101
- but 12 people out of 91,000, correct? Okay, thank you. Okay, thank you. Do we have any public comment

00:25:31.101 --> 00:25:38.249
- from anyone? Oh, I'm sorry. Just a couple of things I'd like to ask about. Is there already a local

00:25:38.249 --> 00:25:45.397
- judge who we know will be working on Election Day? Yes, there is, and I have him in my phone. Spoke

00:25:45.397 --> 00:25:51.902
- to him yesterday. Thank you. And is that possible for us to know who that is? Judge Dikof.

00:25:53.794 --> 00:26:03.639
- Also, I was looking. Last evening at the form that gets filled out of somebody casts a provisional ballot

00:26:03.639 --> 00:26:13.205
- and at least what was available at the state website and maybe this is in not current on the back, but

00:26:13.205 --> 00:26:20.542
- it says that the voter has until 3 PM. 10 days after election day. Not noon on

00:26:20.802 --> 00:26:28.978
- 10 days after election day to cure their provisional ballot. The election board has to have all of them

00:26:28.978 --> 00:26:36.918
- cured by 3 p.m. The voter has until noon 10 days after, which is why we begin the provisional ballot

00:26:36.918 --> 00:26:45.094
- hearing at 1201. Right, right, right. The election board has election board has to have all provisional

00:26:45.094 --> 00:26:49.182
- ballots cured by 3 p.m. 10 days after the election.

00:26:49.346 --> 00:26:58.209
- I do appreciate that. I just want to make sure that there was no confusion about that. Yeah, thank you.

00:26:58.209 --> 00:27:06.731
- Are we going to start fixing that? Go ahead. Okay. So are we also going to set up our first meeting

00:27:06.731 --> 00:27:16.190
- for January, sir? I would assume that the first Thursday is January 7th and that would be our January meeting.

00:27:20.290 --> 00:27:26.657
- So is there not plans to have other meetings? Well, we do have our professionals and we have some required

00:27:26.657 --> 00:27:32.726
- so we can have specials. But I have little interest in meeting two days after the election, right? So

00:27:32.726 --> 00:27:38.735
- we normally don't meet two days after the election, but we will meet in December because we have the

00:27:38.735 --> 00:27:44.745
- post election audit in December. And so the election board will have to come together after that to.

00:27:44.745 --> 00:27:47.006
- Formally, does that happen? Well, OK.

00:27:51.266 --> 00:28:01.085
- I mean, just so we don't forget. I'm with you. That first Thursday of December is an issue for me. OK,

00:28:01.085 --> 00:28:05.470
- yeah, that's an issue from the weekend. So I.

00:28:06.050 --> 00:28:12.866
- I'm not 100% sure, but I'm almost positive that the 2nd of December is when our post election audit

00:28:12.866 --> 00:28:19.750
- is. I'll have to go back and verify that. I know I sent that awhile back in an email, so it might be

00:28:19.750 --> 00:28:26.771
- one that's just been lost. I'll make sure that I send that again to update everybody. So we're looking

00:28:26.771 --> 00:28:31.678
- at January 7th for the next. That's the first Thursday in January, yes.

00:28:34.722 --> 00:28:41.164
- And then we're still wanting to do the 1.30 PM on first Thursday of every month. As we have a better

00:28:41.164 --> 00:28:47.989
- I mean there are better times for me, but it's not that big of a deal. I was going to say in my experience

00:28:47.989 --> 00:28:54.367
- from other groups like this that generally if we're because that we know that there's going to be a

00:28:54.367 --> 00:29:01.192
- change in the membership. If we set up the first meeting of the month, then we can set up the the meetings

00:29:01.192 --> 00:29:04.254
- for the rest of the year at that first meeting.

00:29:04.610 --> 00:29:10.057
- I mean, that's typically how I will handle most of the boards and commissions that I oversee is that

00:29:10.057 --> 00:29:15.558
- we keep the schedule for the first meeting in January. We go ahead and make sure reserve the room for

00:29:15.558 --> 00:29:21.059
- the rest of the year because 90% of them want to continue that schedule. But then we always have that

00:29:21.059 --> 00:29:26.775
- conversation at the first meeting. Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I was making sure because whenever

00:29:26.775 --> 00:29:32.384
- I reach out to TSD to schedule the that first meeting of the year, they generally ask me when we expect

00:29:32.384 --> 00:29:34.110
- the rest of the meetings to be.

00:29:34.914 --> 00:29:47.878
- That's fine until we have a better idea. I'd like to move that we. That January the 7th at 1.30 here

00:29:47.878 --> 00:29:56.734
- in the net you Hill room. That's fine. Just. Well, second. Hi hi hi.

00:30:01.954 --> 00:30:11.489
- of the public notice for election day as well as the night before. They were already in the annual notice

00:30:11.489 --> 00:30:20.484
- for the whole year, but I'm going to send out a reminder one for those two days. And then I'll send

00:30:20.484 --> 00:30:29.569
- out a reminder for the provisional ballot hearing as well. Yeah, that's the 13th at noon. Yes. Okay.

00:30:29.569 --> 00:30:30.558
- All right.

00:30:33.026 --> 00:30:40.823
- anything else we need to do. Kylie do we have any building update? I actually just got an email this

00:30:40.823 --> 00:30:48.620
- morning that we will be getting contacted soon for having the additional cameras installed in to the

00:30:48.620 --> 00:30:56.339
- space that have been requested. This is in the hallway of where the ballot room server room and ABS

00:30:56.339 --> 00:31:00.894
- office are. I've requested that that one be added from the

00:31:01.122 --> 00:31:07.833
- report that we got back from CISA. And then our speaker and microphone should be getting installed soon.

00:31:07.833 --> 00:31:14.544
- I know it was supposed to happen late last week, early this week. So I'll reach out to Richard to ensure

00:31:14.544 --> 00:31:20.999
- that that gets taken care of. And then we did have an incident yesterday that has been issued to the

00:31:20.999 --> 00:31:27.454
- maintenance department as well as a few others, and they are already taking care of that. Thank you.

00:31:29.538 --> 00:31:36.544
- I would just say as a public comment that I early voted yesterday and it was very efficient. The people

00:31:36.544 --> 00:31:43.415
- were very friendly and it was a good experience. Thank you so much. That's just Tuesday for us. Yeah.

00:31:43.415 --> 00:31:49.950
- Yeah, so yesterday, like I said, was a record high for us for this election so far and I will be

00:31:50.114 --> 00:31:56.306
- reaching out to the leads to see about increasing staffing for the remainder of this week because we

00:31:56.306 --> 00:32:02.560
- have been every day this week so far there has been a line multiple times during the day. And a bunch

00:32:02.560 --> 00:32:08.752
- of people show up anywhere there's going to be a line. Yes. Unless you woefully overstaff, it's just

00:32:08.752 --> 00:32:15.128
- it's going to happen. There was not a line at 830. Good. It was great. Good. First thing in the morning

00:32:15.128 --> 00:32:19.358
- is perfect. Yep. All right, then move to adjourn. Motion to adjourn.

00:32:19.778 --> 00:32:22.526
- Second. Those in favor aye. Aye.
