WEBVTT 00:00:01.026 --> 00:00:12.621 - Good evening, everybody. It is Thursday, December 18th at 537 and I'm going to call the Monroe County 00:00:12.621 --> 00:00:18.078 - Women's Commission meeting to order. I'm sorry. 00:00:18.658 --> 00:00:25.430 - The commission will serve an advisory role to assist residents, businesses, and the government of Monroe 00:00:25.430 --> 00:00:32.459 - County in addressing issues of gender equity. The mission is to advance the status of women and marginalized 00:00:32.459 --> 00:00:38.909 - genders in all area of county life. I'm sorry, I can't remember. Did we have minutes? No, we didn't 00:00:38.909 --> 00:00:45.616 - have money. So we had them from two months ago. Still need to approve August and September. And I still 00:00:45.616 --> 00:00:47.486 - have edits to add in Julie's 00:00:48.450 --> 00:00:55.663 - sources to October, to which I'm more last one we did. You had sent me additional information and I 00:00:55.663 --> 00:01:03.236 - still need to add that in. I had sent them out and then said, disregard these. I still need to get that. 00:01:03.236 --> 00:01:10.665 - But August and September were emailed out prior to that meeting. That's what I was thinking. Do I have 00:01:10.665 --> 00:01:13.694 - a motion to approve August and September? 00:01:15.714 --> 00:01:26.414 - I will move because I don't remember that I had any edits. I think we'd already gone through. I'll second. 00:01:26.414 --> 00:01:36.514 - Good. All in favor say aye. Aye. Minutes from August and September approved. Commissioner updates. I 00:01:36.514 --> 00:01:44.414 - have none that won't be covered later. Julie. Okay. We didn't have our meeting 00:01:44.578 --> 00:01:50.749 - last month. And I was the topic was going to be women in politics, but I have not I've not been able 00:01:50.749 --> 00:01:57.164 - to do any looking into that topic. So that did not end up happening. But I do kind of want to go briefly 00:01:57.164 --> 00:02:03.517 - over the topics that I did cover this year. And then we can kind of see where that leads us to for next 00:02:03.517 --> 00:02:09.688 - year. So we looked at income and economic power and living with penalties, lack of money or housing, 00:02:09.688 --> 00:02:10.910 - being incarcerated, 00:02:11.298 --> 00:02:17.706 - education, health outcomes, and reproductive health care. And there were some sources that were useful 00:02:17.706 --> 00:02:24.114 - across multiple topics. And I think that's kind of, those might be some things that we want to go back 00:02:24.114 --> 00:02:30.397 - into and see if there's any updates on those. So the US Census Quick Facts on Monroe County, Indiana 00:02:30.397 --> 00:02:35.934 - were pretty useful for several topics. Data USA on Monroe County, human rights campaign, 00:02:36.098 --> 00:02:42.463 - and county health rankings and roadmaps and maternal mortality report from Indiana, although I don't 00:02:42.463 --> 00:02:48.764 - think that is being produced anymore, but there were reports, multiple reports out that were useful 00:02:48.764 --> 00:02:55.066 - for looking at some of the topics that like reproductive health care. So those seem like they might 00:02:55.066 --> 00:02:58.910 - be good sources in terms of trying to focus in next year and 00:02:59.458 --> 00:03:06.016 - if we're still interested in creating that visualization of the status of women and marginalized genders 00:03:06.016 --> 00:03:12.262 - in Monroe County, the data subcommittee, whatever areas that subcommittee is interested in pursuing 00:03:12.262 --> 00:03:18.945 - further. And there seemed to be like looking at the topics and the sources. Nationally, there were reports 00:03:18.945 --> 00:03:25.253 - or statistical sources that were good for economic power, incarceration, education, and reproductive 00:03:25.253 --> 00:03:28.126 - healthcare in particular. At the state level, 00:03:28.258 --> 00:03:35.118 - there were resources that gave information either across the state or at the county level on lack of 00:03:35.118 --> 00:03:42.046 - housing and reproductive health care. And then locally, we had some sources that were really good for 00:03:42.046 --> 00:03:49.110 - economic power, lack of housing, health outcomes, and reproductive health care. So there's kind of some 00:03:49.110 --> 00:03:56.446 - different levels of data sources that were useful. And they didn't all focus in on Monroe County, but yeah, 00:03:56.994 --> 00:04:03.729 - There's a picture I think that we can come up with from all of that. Anyway. What the goal is to do 00:04:03.729 --> 00:04:10.532 - what? There's some things that I think we're interested. The data subcommittee had discussed maybe a 00:04:10.532 --> 00:04:17.402 - dashboard of some kind to give out a report maybe on the status of women of marginalized genders, but 00:04:17.402 --> 00:04:23.598 - also if anything is raising red flags for us as a committee to bring that up, especially if 00:04:23.598 --> 00:04:26.494 - it's county-specific and there's something 00:04:26.594 --> 00:04:34.480 - that seems really problematic for women and marginalized genders in the county to push on that topic 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:42.287 - with the commissioners as much as we can. All the topics then? All the topics. Yeah. Those are just 00:04:42.287 --> 00:04:50.095 - the topics that I got through. There are other things that we might be interested in trying to look 00:04:50.095 --> 00:04:55.326 - in as well beyond just that set that I got through. Great. Thanks. 00:04:57.538 --> 00:05:03.957 - Is there a goal of a date of this magic report? No, this is, I'm not actually on the data subcommittee. 00:05:03.957 --> 00:05:10.191 - I was just doing this because I was interested as a vice chair to try and get into this. So the data 00:05:10.191 --> 00:05:16.548 - subcommittee, I think would probably be the place next year to take this and try to get something with 00:05:16.548 --> 00:05:22.843 - it. So yeah. Well, and especially as we move into, you know, the summer with the students, hopefully. 00:05:22.843 --> 00:05:26.238 - All right. Yeah. So I think it's in a lot of ways just 00:05:27.586 --> 00:05:34.267 - I mean, that back foundational work for them to help them figure out, like, say, this is kind of we've 00:05:34.267 --> 00:05:40.754 - done some work for you. So. This is what we've run into, and yeah, and all of us still in our heads 00:05:40.754 --> 00:05:47.435 - point anyway, I don't feel like I was really able to dig in all that much on any one topic, so there's 00:05:47.435 --> 00:05:54.116 - no data, especially. I mean, not especially specific to me that I've ever seen on Monroe County in the 00:05:54.116 --> 00:05:56.062 - way that I want it right. So. 00:05:57.346 --> 00:06:07.456 - Thank you. Maria, do you have anything to share? Yes, Maria has a lot to share. So first, I want to 00:06:07.456 --> 00:06:18.577 - thank and congratulate the state of Indiana for standing firm against Washington and the racist redistricting 00:06:18.577 --> 00:06:24.542 - efforts. This is a huge win for Indiana in terms of, well, 00:06:25.218 --> 00:06:35.971 - in terms of working in a nonpartisan across the aisle situation, doing what is right and not letting 00:06:35.971 --> 00:06:46.829 - bullying or not sway people's votes. And I think it's very good to know heading into the primaries in 00:06:46.829 --> 00:06:54.814 - terms of who is listening to their constituents and who are easily swayed. 00:06:56.290 --> 00:07:03.971 - I want to remind everyone that the regular legislative session will resume early in January. I didn't 00:07:03.971 --> 00:07:11.728 - find a specific date. But what we do need to know is that this is a short session, and I've heard that 00:07:11.728 --> 00:07:19.484 - they want to be done in late February. Any actions must be swift. The reason why I bring this up, even 00:07:19.484 --> 00:07:20.990 - though it's a state 00:07:21.314 --> 00:07:30.084 - You know situation clearly we're in the state of Monroe County is in the state of Indiana and will feel 00:07:30.084 --> 00:07:38.685 - repercussions of anything that's done decided at the state level. I personally ask you to watch House 00:07:38.685 --> 00:07:47.118 - Bill 1039. This is an immigration bill that once again asks local. And state law enforcement to act 00:07:47.118 --> 00:07:49.310 - as federal agents of ice. 00:07:50.114 --> 00:08:01.820 - And please be aware of the League of Women Voters legislative update sessions. You can find information 00:08:01.820 --> 00:08:12.062 - about that on lwv-bmc.org. I also want to report that Hoosier Asian American Power had the 00:08:12.162 --> 00:08:21.187 - pre-trial conference yesterday pertaining to the lawsuit we filed against the state of Indiana for being 00:08:21.187 --> 00:08:30.126 - in violation of the National Voter Registration Act by passing and implementing House Enrolled Act 1264 00:08:30.126 --> 00:08:36.830 - and House Enrolled Act 1680. Oh, I did too. I'm sorry. HEA 1264 and HEA 1680. 00:08:39.266 --> 00:08:47.631 - Also today in the capital, Indiana Capital Chronicle, there was an article titled, incarcerated women 00:08:47.631 --> 00:08:55.995 - often don't have enough period products. And so I invite everyone or encourage everyone to read that. 00:08:55.995 --> 00:09:04.360 - And so it might be who of us to check in on that once again, here in Monroe County. Again, that's the 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:05.918 - Indiana Chronicle. 00:09:08.514 --> 00:09:21.118 - The Monroe County branch of the NAACP is facilitating an event on January 25th of 2026 titled Beyond 00:09:21.118 --> 00:09:34.222 - Ground, Building Forward When Progress is Rolled Back. This is at the downtown on Kirkwood Monroe County 00:09:34.222 --> 00:09:36.094 - Public Library 00:09:36.322 --> 00:09:48.610 - Again, January 25th from two to 4 p.m. Tian is here. This is a community gathering to revive the spirit 00:09:48.610 --> 00:10:00.663 - and purpose of freedom schools and reclaim the unfinished promise of Brown versus Board of Education. 00:10:00.663 --> 00:10:03.262 - So that will be on my 00:10:04.002 --> 00:10:12.678 - uh, social media. So if you're interested in that, please let us know. This is going to be an action 00:10:12.678 --> 00:10:21.439 - oriented, um, event. We're done with talking. Thank you. Yeah. I also want, I'm not done talking now. 00:10:21.439 --> 00:10:29.342 - That's great. Okay. I have two more things. I want to thank, um, commissioner Jodi Madeira. 00:10:29.442 --> 00:10:36.620 - and Councilperson David Henry for making the time and putting in the effort to visit people's homes 00:10:36.620 --> 00:10:43.870 - at the encampment. And thank you to the County Council for honoring humanity and issuing a statement 00:10:43.870 --> 00:10:49.182 - against the clearing of people's homes in the frigid temps, temperatures. 00:10:50.850 --> 00:10:59.726 - And as I've been asking for several months, if you or someone you know have received a letter from the 00:10:59.726 --> 00:11:08.603 - clerk's office requesting proof of citizenship, please reach out to me at Maria at Hoosier AAP.org and 00:11:08.603 --> 00:11:17.393 - everyone should check and double and triple check your voter registration. Thus ends my update. Thank 00:11:17.393 --> 00:11:18.686 - you very much. 00:11:20.386 --> 00:11:29.569 - Ms. Belton, I have nothing. Uh, and Tiana are going to be back momentarily. Yes. I'm sorry. I was going 00:11:29.569 --> 00:11:38.664 - to have Johnny went up and at the commissioners meeting today regarding. Oh, um, we have a resolution. 00:11:38.664 --> 00:11:47.582 - Okay. Um, the resolution is up on the website and let me, can you just summarize it? Yeah, it's, um, 00:11:48.866 --> 00:11:57.100 - Let me pull it up here. It's very short. It basically commits to, here it is. It is up on the website. 00:11:57.100 --> 00:12:05.094 - You can find it if you go to the commissioners meeting for today. And it will be under, there's two 00:12:05.094 --> 00:12:13.568 - agenda items, the agenda, the work session, and the resolution. So basically, it says we met on Thursday, 00:12:13.568 --> 00:12:16.766 - December 11th with concerned residents. 00:12:16.866 --> 00:12:22.590 - including individuals currently camping in the Thompson property. The conversation included the hardships 00:12:22.590 --> 00:12:28.205 - imposed by the removal of individuals during the winter season, the difficulty with the current notice, 00:12:28.205 --> 00:12:34.037 - potential health and land use issues, and the need for a better understanding of the solutions for homeless 00:12:34.037 --> 00:12:39.598 - encampments. We agreed to provide 30 days notice prior to removal of the encampment when possible, and 00:12:39.598 --> 00:12:45.214 - to attempt to discuss this issue with other local elected officials. By the way, I will be following up 00:12:45.378 --> 00:12:55.448 - on that to hold a meeting in June, I'm sorry, early January, not June, with members of the county council, 00:12:55.448 --> 00:13:05.235 - the city council and mayor. And so we, the end all be all is that we will not issue notice before March 00:13:05.235 --> 00:13:14.270 - 2nd, 2026, given the 30 day notice. So that would put us at the April 1st deadline as earliest. 00:13:14.978 --> 00:13:20.637 - and this would apply to locations that a reasonable person would conclude that the property is associated 00:13:20.637 --> 00:13:26.030 - with the homeless encampments. This directive will remain in force until it's rescinded at a noticed 00:13:26.030 --> 00:13:31.850 - Monroe County Board of Commissioner meeting, or if a lot of law enforcement determines there's an emergency, 00:13:31.850 --> 00:13:37.509 - if the Monroe County Health Officer determines there's an emergency or if the City of Livington requests. 00:13:37.509 --> 00:13:40.766 - And those are the legal exceptions we have to have in there. 00:13:43.842 --> 00:13:50.855 - An example of that would be, for example, in January of 2024, there were, I believe, two individuals 00:13:50.855 --> 00:13:58.077 - experiencing homelessness who were murdered in an encampment. That is the kind of public emergency that 00:13:58.077 --> 00:14:05.090 - would justify further action. Not just, oh, reports somebody called saying that there was loud noise 00:14:05.090 --> 00:14:12.798 - from the encampment. That is not an emergency. So we're talking about threats to serious bodily harm or death. 00:14:13.826 --> 00:14:21.182 - So what would be the goal of meeting with city or county council? Developing protocols for further situations 00:14:21.182 --> 00:14:27.869 - like this. And also I think making sure that we get on the same page. But the first meeting will be 00:14:27.869 --> 00:14:34.690 - about really how we have meetings because I think a lot of attempts to solve this issue before failed 00:14:34.690 --> 00:14:41.310 - because nobody knew what the goal was. And here the goal is to come up with not only protocols for 00:14:42.178 --> 00:14:49.212 - the encampment procedure. A commitment to solving this both with short-term and long-term solutions. 00:14:49.212 --> 00:14:56.524 - So including potential changes to ordinances, emphasis on tiny homes within, I know that state law makes 00:14:56.524 --> 00:15:03.558 - it hard, that kind of thing. So it's not just, here's how we get educated. And the group will expand 00:15:03.558 --> 00:15:10.592 - to include frontline workers, community advocates, et cetera. But we thought it was important to get 00:15:10.592 --> 00:15:11.358 - government 00:15:11.714 --> 00:15:21.685 - on the same page first before we, yeah. Thank you. That's great. Thank you for that. I'm curious about, 00:15:21.685 --> 00:15:31.464 - you said unless law enforcement, public health, or the city requests. If it's in the county, the city 00:15:31.464 --> 00:15:39.134 - wouldn't request it. Right. But because Thompson is within the city boundaries, 00:15:39.330 --> 00:15:45.769 - That's right. That's the property in a unique situation. That's right. That's right. Thank you. 00:15:45.769 --> 00:15:52.677 - But in short, short of something that would be truly, truly an emergency, we do not anticipate posting 00:15:52.677 --> 00:15:59.786 - before March 2nd at the earliest. That doesn't mean that we'll post on March 2nd. It just is the earliest 00:15:59.786 --> 00:16:05.822 - to meet that 30-day deadline. It could very well be later. Right. Okay. Great. Thank you. 00:16:09.218 --> 00:16:15.716 - So were there, I didn't watch the meeting yet, were there people from the ambulance there at the meeting? 00:16:15.716 --> 00:16:22.091 - Ash called it. Okay. And I don't think Ash was happy with the resolution because of that vague language 00:16:22.091 --> 00:16:28.772 - at the beginning. And unfortunately, that language is something that we have to have. Why is that necessary? 00:16:28.772 --> 00:16:34.963 - Because if we didn't have it, if there were murders, we could do it. If there were murders and what? 00:16:34.963 --> 00:16:39.070 - If there were murders, that might not be possible for us to go in. 00:16:39.522 --> 00:16:46.652 - So in other words, we would have to meet and revoke this resolution before we send anyone in if there 00:16:46.652 --> 00:16:53.781 - was an emergency. Can it be more specific? I think it's no, because the sheriff has his ability to go 00:16:53.781 --> 00:17:01.050 - in as well, because we can't determine what Sheriff Marte might determine an emergency. But the sheriff 00:17:01.050 --> 00:17:06.782 - has promised that he's not going to go in, barring something of that nature, too. 00:17:07.650 --> 00:17:15.313 - So is it something? I assume the police keep this on the same page as well. Yes. Yes. So this is something 00:17:15.313 --> 00:17:22.546 - that I know that it's not easy to trust government officials with vague language. But we have to ask 00:17:22.546 --> 00:17:29.708 - to have an option to do what you need to do if it happens. Exactly. You need to be prepared for the 00:17:29.708 --> 00:17:36.798 - worst. Right. Yes. But we can commit to those types of emergencies and it being of that level, not 00:17:37.186 --> 00:17:45.528 - Oh, we've got a call from a neighbor. Yeah, that's not the type of thing we're talking about. Cool. 00:17:45.528 --> 00:17:53.871 - It's a good step. It's excellent and necessary for a step, but by no means the end. Yeah. Thank you 00:17:53.871 --> 00:18:02.213 - for that. And the following meetings will be in the evening to accommodate schedules. Fantastic. So 00:18:02.213 --> 00:18:06.718 - I think that's an important component of it too. Yes. 00:18:06.946 --> 00:18:15.168 - They certainly spoke about that. And then the next meeting, the 22nd at five. Um, that is, or is that 00:18:15.168 --> 00:18:23.228 - a fire district? Oh, that's just part of it. Yep. Yep. So, but we will be working to, you know, add 00:18:23.228 --> 00:18:31.450 - more detail to this as well. But before, first, another reason why it's vague is we wanted input from 00:18:31.450 --> 00:18:36.286 - other government sources as well. So. Hello. Hello. Doctor. 00:18:36.578 --> 00:18:44.778 - I made it doctor. When I got there and I said I won't turn around because there's no way here because 00:18:44.778 --> 00:18:52.899 - the door had been open and the door was open, but whatever. Yeah, cause there is a meeting upstairs. 00:18:52.899 --> 00:19:01.099 - I didn't go up. Oh yeah, I realized that once I got the car soaking wet. To be just like where I said 00:19:01.099 --> 00:19:04.958 - this goes the other way. Yeah, I don't love it. 00:19:06.978 --> 00:19:16.105 - Just to catch up, we're still in updates for regular commissioners and county commissioner Badera just 00:19:16.105 --> 00:19:25.232 - gave an update on a resolution about the encampment that that's at. Are they still there? Yes, they're 00:19:25.232 --> 00:19:33.118 - still there. They will be there until really a single post-parch. Not sure what parches, 00:19:33.346 --> 00:19:39.284 - The earliest we would post is March 2nd. And, um, in the resolution, one of the things we've agreed 00:19:39.284 --> 00:19:45.223 - to do is give 30 days notice instead of just 72 hours. Of course, that was a minimum before I think 00:19:45.223 --> 00:19:51.220 - there was posted a week before. Yeah. Um, yeah. Also in the, in the meeting, uh, in case you did not 00:19:51.220 --> 00:19:57.337 - watch it this morning, um, I think it was awful that commissioner Thomas clarified that the encampment 00:19:57.337 --> 00:20:02.622 - removal process is not something that the commissioner was voted on. So because the, um, 00:20:03.234 --> 00:20:11.878 - The logic was that because individuals on the property were already trespassing, no one needed to take 00:20:11.878 --> 00:20:20.438 - a vote. And so that's one of the issues that I think contributed to where we were. So there's so many 00:20:20.438 --> 00:20:29.165 - people felt that they found out about it through Reddit. Tricky effect. Very tricky effect. Yes, right. 00:20:29.165 --> 00:20:32.606 - I mean, that's how I found out about it. 00:20:32.770 --> 00:20:43.253 - Yeah. Fabulous. Counselor, do you have any update you'd like to share with us since we'll go back to 00:20:43.253 --> 00:20:54.150 - you? You guys had our last meeting for the year Tuesday, so nothing major happened there. I think that's 00:20:54.150 --> 00:20:58.302 - really an overview that I can think of. 00:20:58.882 --> 00:21:06.448 - We're still all working on the jail, right? That's another big thing besides this now and other things. 00:21:06.448 --> 00:21:14.015 - We have plates full of stuff that need to be remedied. I mean, I went to the, were you at the jail with 00:21:14.015 --> 00:21:21.435 - the ACLU? Yeah, so we were at the jail with the ACLU and we toured the jail with them and I certainly 00:21:21.435 --> 00:21:28.638 - got the impression, I'm not sure everybody, what you thought, Jordy, but I got the impression that 00:21:28.834 --> 00:21:36.476 - There's a possibility we could get that lawsuit date extended. I got that impression. Did you get that 00:21:36.476 --> 00:21:44.267 - impression? I think it's open. Yes. It could happen. It either wasn't shut. The door wasn't shut. Right. 00:21:44.267 --> 00:21:51.761 - The door is not shut. The lawsuit is either it's going to be filed or the sale will be extended, but 00:21:51.761 --> 00:21:58.142 - either way, it's up January 15th. We'll find out about that shortly. I sensed it from 00:21:58.530 --> 00:22:05.740 - Bob there. There was some predicament. We are all in here, right? So I mean, he is retiring too. Oh, 00:22:05.740 --> 00:22:12.879 - yes, he is. You know when? Soon enough to have announced it. OK, well, we hope tomorrow then. Yeah, 00:22:12.879 --> 00:22:20.374 - I mean, I think I think he would. This is something I think he would address before. That would be good. 00:22:20.374 --> 00:22:25.086 - I think that would be excellent if he's so familiar with it. Yes, 00:22:25.730 --> 00:22:31.630 - Yes, that's why I think he said he wanted to discuss the matter with lawyers instead of just taking 00:22:31.630 --> 00:22:37.530 - it under because he is the ECU legal, right? You know that is fall, right? So yeah, I was impressed 00:22:37.530 --> 00:22:43.843 - with this question. You know, I thought he had a good job of touring it and analyzing and asking questions 00:22:43.843 --> 00:22:49.979 - and getting clarification and all that. I thought he did a good job. He wanted to understand it. I felt 00:22:49.979 --> 00:22:55.230 - really well so that he could make a decision of some sort on the end of current lawsuit. 00:22:55.426 --> 00:23:04.103 - Regardless, we'll need to go to jail at some point. That doesn't go away. So that still has to be addressed. 00:23:04.103 --> 00:23:12.143 - I don't know where magic property is. We don't have any property right now. We don't have a specific 00:23:12.143 --> 00:23:20.422 - plan now that the other property didn't materialize. So everything is just kind of up in the air still. 00:23:20.422 --> 00:23:25.278 - So good, bad, or indifferent, I think that's where we're at. 00:23:27.010 --> 00:23:33.282 - So there's a lot of opinions floating around about where it should be. Some mentally want it downtown, 00:23:33.282 --> 00:23:39.675 - some want it not so downtown, some want everything all together. I mean, there's still a lot of opinions 00:23:39.675 --> 00:23:46.069 - out there and nobody seems to have a consensus on everything yet. I don't know how that's not happening, 00:23:46.069 --> 00:23:52.523 - but you know, I wasn't here when it all started to begin with, so I don't know. I don't know. Like there. 00:23:52.523 --> 00:23:56.542 - I know. You're involved in that whole analyzation of it early on. 00:23:56.642 --> 00:24:03.337 - And so I've missed all those discussions. Or I don't know if there were that many discussions. That's 00:24:03.337 --> 00:24:10.164 - a question in my mind as well, right? I mean, I come from a nonprofit where we discuss things to death. 00:24:10.164 --> 00:24:16.925 - And so to not have that is just really stymieing to me that you can work on projects of that magnitude 00:24:16.925 --> 00:24:23.621 - and not have people in the same room and come to a consensus on something before you move on. I don't 00:24:23.621 --> 00:24:25.918 - know how you operate without that. 00:24:26.210 --> 00:24:32.192 - there were discussions and. But did people really agree that's what they were going to do? I mean, I 00:24:32.192 --> 00:24:38.411 - remember coming in as elected official, right? And all of a sudden there was a 400 bed jail. Now there's 00:24:38.411 --> 00:24:44.452 - a 500 bed jail. Well, where did that come from? Right? I mean, all these things kept happening. Yeah, 00:24:44.452 --> 00:24:50.612 - before that there were a whole series, a whole summer of discussions with various various. Stakeholders 00:24:50.612 --> 00:24:54.462 - in the community, including folks who have been incarcerated and 00:24:54.594 --> 00:25:00.064 - Things were things were discussed and options were discussed about what what ways could be what things 00:25:00.064 --> 00:25:05.534 - can be done, not just building physical things that like you know services and that sort of thing and. 00:25:05.762 --> 00:25:12.486 - You know, but then then a consultant comes in and you have to have a location and then the building 00:25:12.486 --> 00:25:19.413 - and watch it. That's my my memory, which might be faulty, but my memories we had these discussions and 00:25:19.413 --> 00:25:26.204 - then a consultant came in and provided a, you know, a plan that way. They worked out the plan didn't 00:25:26.204 --> 00:25:28.894 - necessarily didn't necessarily take in. 00:25:29.122 --> 00:25:35.541 - in all of the discussions that occurred, right? So how was it that it was decided something had more 00:25:35.541 --> 00:25:41.897 - weight than others? I mean, that would be a question I'd have. Yeah, so I think a lot of it depends 00:25:41.897 --> 00:25:48.444 - on who you're advocating for. And that makes a big difference in what a jail looks like in a community 00:25:48.444 --> 00:25:52.702 - and what does it mean to have a jail in a community. And I have to 00:25:54.114 --> 00:26:03.169 - lift up what Julie said, there were multiple, multiple conversations. So we attended almost every single 00:26:03.169 --> 00:26:11.793 - one of them and made comment almost at every single one of them. And it was a beautiful round table 00:26:11.793 --> 00:26:20.502 - of service providers, of elected officials, of judges, of prosecutors, of people with experience and 00:26:20.502 --> 00:26:23.262 - providers and lived experience. 00:26:23.554 --> 00:26:32.366 - And it seemed my opinion from my perspective is that the commissioners did what the commissioners wanted 00:26:32.366 --> 00:26:40.841 - to do. They were the ones who brought DLZ in and went just doing what they wanted to do. And this is 00:26:40.841 --> 00:26:48.478 - before your time. Yes. And so that's what happened. So I wonder if it's worthy to go back. 00:26:48.738 --> 00:26:54.546 - all the outputs, right? And then start from there. That should be available. All available. The JFAC 00:26:54.546 --> 00:27:00.297 - information is all still there. Yeah. I don't know. I haven't heard anything, but that's what we're 00:27:00.297 --> 00:27:06.221 - going to start them with. I don't know. And the fact of the matter is that nobody... Okay. Don't bring 00:27:06.221 --> 00:27:12.144 - it back. Dr. Irajay, please. It's totally another thing you put. Tiana just said she's a friend. Yeah. 00:27:12.144 --> 00:27:15.422 - Okay. So that's why I keep referring, because we should. 00:27:15.746 --> 00:27:26.221 - So I just want to, I guess, take this time to say that what do I want to say right now is that no one's 00:27:26.221 --> 00:27:36.595 - going to agree. No one's going to agree. And if you don't have a, you, if elected officials don't have 00:27:36.595 --> 00:27:44.350 - Washington in their sights and being a career politician in their, in their, 00:27:44.642 --> 00:27:52.486 - plan, then just do the right thing. No matter what feathers are ruffled, no matter what you have to 00:27:52.486 --> 00:28:00.643 - go up against, just do the right thing. I'm ready to proceed with that philosophy. I can do that. Okay. 00:28:00.643 --> 00:28:08.722 - Thank you. It is not a problem for me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the policy subcommittee here on this lemons 00:28:08.722 --> 00:28:14.526 - commission was the group that focused on that. So if you're interested in 00:28:14.882 --> 00:28:22.178 - Our take on the JFAC and talking you through what we did and what we experienced. I like lots of them. 00:28:22.178 --> 00:28:29.403 - We would totally do that. I like lots of them. I think you get good results with lots of information. 00:28:29.403 --> 00:28:34.078 - Absolutely. We can give you a little guide through the JFAC docs. 00:28:34.626 --> 00:28:42.199 - I would love that. I would love that next tour and we have that. We would be good to do that because 00:28:42.199 --> 00:28:49.472 - one we followed it so closely. We participated in it and we have no stake in the matter. Really, 00:28:49.472 --> 00:28:57.119 - you know, I mean all the communities that are, you know, we're all stakeholders for sure and we don't 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:01.918 - have. We don't have an outcome that has to happen, right? Yeah. 00:29:02.338 --> 00:29:09.869 - So, I mean, personally, I'd probably have outcomes that I would like to see, but as a women's commission, 00:29:09.869 --> 00:29:17.045 - we don't have anything that we're like, this needs to be what we do not fail. Yeah. Good. Excellent. 00:29:17.045 --> 00:29:24.150 - Well, I'm anxious to hear what you might be willing to inform, at least me about it. I'm sure other 00:29:24.150 --> 00:29:31.326 - consultants would be willing to let them as well. Thank you. Commissioner Otto, do you not have any? 00:29:31.778 --> 00:29:39.472 - That was easy. General updates. Tiana, do you have any general updates before we dig into the world 00:29:39.472 --> 00:29:47.166 - and ongoing business? Congratulations to you, but also. Oh, thank you. You're right. I'm out of the 00:29:47.166 --> 00:29:50.782 - loop. So I have my I defended my dissertation. 00:29:50.946 --> 00:29:56.985 - and instructional systems technology. I'm a doctor of education. What was your topic? I'm looking at 00:29:56.985 --> 00:30:03.143 - how students in the Luddy liberal learning community, minority students decided to return their second 00:30:03.143 --> 00:30:09.421 - year. I'm changing it a little bit because the LLC wasn't the only determining factor. So it's all these 00:30:09.421 --> 00:30:15.400 - high impact practices. Congratulations. Yeah, that was fun. That's awesome. My dad was like, I left 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:20.542 - when they started interrogating you. I was like, no, it's normal. They just had that. 00:30:20.642 --> 00:30:28.688 - I was, I looked at the video afterwards and I said, huh, I do respond well under pressure. They were 00:30:28.688 --> 00:30:36.894 - like, I learned, I was like, yeah, I say, yeah, what's a lot of questions. No one better than anybody. 00:30:36.894 --> 00:30:44.860 - So what will that do for you and your work now? Well, you know, good question. I haven't, I haven't 00:30:44.860 --> 00:30:48.286 - got there yet. Okay. I'm gonna, um, it'll, 00:30:48.674 --> 00:30:57.041 - I'll keep doing the work I'm doing until I decide to pivot. But it's going to help me because actually 00:30:57.041 --> 00:31:05.164 - the research I did was on the bloody school. So you know, there's some leveraging that will be done 00:31:05.164 --> 00:31:13.613 - later. So right now I'm just going to chill out, enjoy my free time that I'm trying to get by. Whatever 00:31:13.613 --> 00:31:15.806 - that means. Thank you. OK. 00:31:16.002 --> 00:31:23.587 - Now to old and ongoing business. We'll start with the Policy Committee with the purpose of Commissioner 00:31:23.587 --> 00:31:31.246 - Hardesty, Douglas and Yaro. The purpose is to evaluate county policy under using the gender equity lens. 00:31:31.246 --> 00:31:38.685 - I do want to apologize. I know Commissioner Hardesty had some additional documents that were supposed 00:31:38.685 --> 00:31:44.958 - to be shared with this too, but I didn't have access and what I apologize, but we can 00:31:46.274 --> 00:31:52.793 - They were on last month. Yeah, they were shared last month, but then we didn't have them. So it's the 00:31:52.793 --> 00:31:59.248 - same links that were sent for last month. But yeah, this is just giving an update on what we've been 00:31:59.248 --> 00:32:05.703 - doing with the rubric, the gender equity rubric, the guidelines document that goes with that and the 00:32:05.703 --> 00:32:11.710 - presentation that we're wanting to give to the commissioners and the county commissioners. So 00:32:11.874 --> 00:32:17.854 - The rubric as a subcommittee, we got some feedback from Eve, who did a review showing that we had some 00:32:17.854 --> 00:32:23.659 - redundant criteria and criteria that could be combined. And so we ended up going from 10 categories 00:32:23.659 --> 00:32:29.522 - with 16 criteria down to seven categories with 13 criteria. So it's a little bit more succinct and I 00:32:29.522 --> 00:32:35.850 - think easier to use, but that's great. We still have the same five levels of scoring that we had previously. 00:32:35.850 --> 00:32:40.030 - We're still doing that. That's still being used and that didn't change. 00:32:40.642 --> 00:32:46.778 - Then the guidelines document got a really, really good reworking. Eve was able to work the rubric into 00:32:46.778 --> 00:32:52.735 - a view that is one page landscape. So before it was like this portrait that was like multiple pages 00:32:52.735 --> 00:32:58.692 - of, you know, rubric table, which was hard to read. But now it's a one page landscape fits into the 00:32:58.692 --> 00:33:03.934 - document, the guidelines document well, and it's been incorporated into the guidelines. 00:33:04.162 --> 00:33:10.271 - And the gender definition that we're using is from Wikipedia, since it's a community source definition, 00:33:10.271 --> 00:33:16.556 - and it cites multiple sources for its creation. So that seems like a really, a really great way to provide 00:33:16.556 --> 00:33:22.901 - a definition of gender that we're that we're using. And then the feedback from the gender studies librarian 00:33:22.901 --> 00:33:29.186 - at IU helped us provide better guidance in that document when considering multiple genders in the criteria 00:33:29.186 --> 00:33:30.302 - and indicators. So 00:33:30.594 --> 00:33:37.027 - So that was really, that was really helpful to have them review and give us feedback for the guidelines 00:33:37.027 --> 00:33:43.213 - in particular. And then for the presentation, we did some updates for the, for that power, just the 00:33:43.213 --> 00:33:45.502 - PowerPoint file got some updates to. 00:33:45.794 --> 00:33:52.929 - update the subcommittee members and the commission members. We modified the explanation of the origins 00:33:52.929 --> 00:33:59.995 - of this work more precisely, so where the idea for the gender equity rubric came from, so that's been 00:33:59.995 --> 00:34:07.060 - clarified a little bit on the slides. Then we have fewer categories and criteria, so the total points 00:34:07.060 --> 00:34:14.334 - explaining all of that with the scoring, that was modified and updated to match what the rubric has now. 00:34:14.434 --> 00:34:21.571 - Then we have a test run that we're also sharing about in the presentation. We used an ordinance from 00:34:21.571 --> 00:34:28.709 - 2024, and we updated that as well to show the fewer categories, and also the fact that the ordinance 00:34:28.709 --> 00:34:36.199 - is no longer available online since the Monroe County government website moved. That's a bit of a bummer, 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:43.902 - but anything that's before 2025, that seems to be not available online at this point. That 2024 ordinance is 00:34:44.258 --> 00:34:50.928 - is not there. And that actually changed a little bit of the scoring for that ordinance on the rubric 00:34:50.928 --> 00:34:57.663 - because it's not available. There are consequences. No, I'm just kidding. And then references, we had 00:34:57.663 --> 00:35:04.531 - to update references since nearly all the sources from the United States publications are now no longer 00:35:04.531 --> 00:35:11.465 - available online except via the internet archive. So that's been a change in general with how the United 00:35:11.465 --> 00:35:14.238 - States is dealing with gender as a topic. 00:35:14.370 --> 00:35:20.547 - And then we just had to update the URL for the Monroe County Women's Commission site since it is now 00:35:20.547 --> 00:35:26.724 - in the new Monroe County Government website as well. So those are the updates that have been made to 00:35:26.724 --> 00:35:33.023 - those three documents. And I actually have a motion that I would like to make, and I want to move that 00:35:33.023 --> 00:35:39.322 - we request this to be added to a county commissioner's meeting agenda for a 10-minute presentation and 00:35:39.322 --> 00:35:42.686 - to offer the rubric and guidelines for sharing online. 00:35:42.818 --> 00:35:51.277 - No date, not sure when, but if we can decide that we're okay with presenting this to the commissioners 00:35:51.277 --> 00:35:59.571 - now, I think we're ready to get that on an agenda, if you all agree. So that's my motion. So we have 00:35:59.571 --> 00:36:08.277 - a motion to present this material at a future county commissioners meeting. Do I have a second? I second. 00:36:08.277 --> 00:36:10.494 - All in favor say aye. Aye. 00:36:11.426 --> 00:36:20.598 - Motion passes. All right. So yeah, I have no idea what happens next. I got to email somebody, I guess, 00:36:20.598 --> 00:36:29.593 - and be like, maybe it's Anita. You can email Anita. Anita. Yeah. And if you want, I can give you her 00:36:29.593 --> 00:36:38.765 - email. Angie can also help. Oh, Angie can. OK. All right. Yeah. You mean Elizabeth since the time that 00:36:38.765 --> 00:36:40.190 - they work with. 00:36:40.450 --> 00:36:47.960 - Pardon? You work with Eve, right? Eve. Eve Yarrow. Eve, yes. Elizabeth Simpson signed in HR. No, no, 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:55.618 - Eve Yarrow is Commissioner Burke on the subcommittee with Maria. I got it. Sorry, misunderstood. Let's 00:36:55.618 --> 00:37:03.128 - email Anita. Get that email. Yes. I don't know who Anita is, but yes. She's our administrator. Yeah, 00:37:03.128 --> 00:37:09.374 - let's email Anita rather than emailing Angie. Yeah, I just, I need Anita's license. 00:37:10.530 --> 00:37:19.955 - Is it Freeman? I think you have to do both. Actually, I would copy them both. Yeah, OK. But don't just 00:37:19.955 --> 00:37:29.105 - email any different things. Thank you. So I have her email is a Freeman at video.monroe.io. OK. And 00:37:29.105 --> 00:37:37.889 - it's Anita Freeman. OK. And you have Angie's email. Yeah, I already have Angie's email. OK. OK, 00:37:37.889 --> 00:37:39.902 - thank you. Excellent. 00:37:41.602 --> 00:37:50.613 - Any other? That's it. I have. Is there anything that I anything else? No, you do such a wonderful job. 00:37:50.613 --> 00:37:59.449 - Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Eve. Yes. Uh, data security with, you know, myself and Commissioner 00:37:59.449 --> 00:38:08.898 - Douglas. We have nothing to update. I know of. No. Okay. Uh, outreach subcommittee with, uh, commissioners, 00:38:08.898 --> 00:38:10.910 - Rode, Belton and Otto. 00:38:14.274 --> 00:38:24.035 - I mean, well, yeah, that's what I am back to. So I saw the email that Julie said to the group and it's 00:38:24.035 --> 00:38:33.511 - to my students asking about the camp. So I sent a message actually today to get an update on what's 00:38:33.511 --> 00:38:42.988 - happening with the camp. I've yet to have a message, but I know students signed up because I didn't 00:38:42.988 --> 00:38:44.030 - go either. 00:38:44.450 --> 00:38:49.048 - because I didn't get information either. I tried to, yeah, because I'm going, I'm representing 00:38:49.048 --> 00:38:53.984 - the commission. I'm not representing Luddy. So my students was doing the Luddy work. So people signed 00:38:53.984 --> 00:38:59.114 - up because I had some of my friends' kids sign up. They signed up for it. I just haven't gotten a report. 00:38:59.114 --> 00:39:03.953 - And probably the reason why we probably haven't gotten a report back is because the two main people 00:39:03.953 --> 00:39:05.502 - were working on their capstone. 00:39:05.954 --> 00:39:11.393 - And they have presentation. So our message actually on my way here, I was like, can I have an update? 00:39:11.393 --> 00:39:16.939 - Cause I'm going to the commission meeting. I haven't had anything. So my thing is I don't think they've 00:39:16.939 --> 00:39:22.324 - done the end of the celebration though, because of the snow days, some of that affected them because 00:39:22.324 --> 00:39:28.190 - they were meeting on, I was going to the, I sent you all this, the dates I sent you the dates. Did I not say? 00:39:28.386 --> 00:39:35.122 - Well, the dates that we got really, it was going to start in October, but then it didn't. And then I 00:39:35.122 --> 00:39:42.125 - don't know when this. So I didn't send you the updated. Hold on. Yeah, we don't have this at all. That's 00:39:42.125 --> 00:39:48.995 - what I was looking at because they had to get it because the MOU expires the end of this month. Right. 00:39:48.995 --> 00:39:55.931 - And so that's why Jessica. Well, she sent me dates. Well, it's my fault if I didn't send it to you all. 00:39:55.931 --> 00:39:56.798 - But hold on. 00:39:57.186 --> 00:40:02.292 - but they did a Tuesday, Thursday. Oh, okay. So it was a Tuesday, Thursday. I'll find it in a second, 00:40:02.292 --> 00:40:07.398 - but I actually had it ready to send it to Jennifer in case I won't go. But I'll find it in a second. 00:40:07.398 --> 00:40:12.808 - They did a Tuesday and Thursday, and then they did virtual some days if the weather was bad. But I haven't 00:40:12.808 --> 00:40:17.914 - heard of a wrap up. So that's what I want to find out. Yeah, that would be great. Great tip. Because 00:40:17.914 --> 00:40:22.110 - even if we can attend virtual, it'd be nice. But they weren't doing nothing today. 00:40:22.210 --> 00:40:29.827 - because tomorrow is Letty's graduation. So that's the only update I have now, but I'll find out. Jessica, 00:40:29.827 --> 00:40:37.084 - I text her because she's the lead person and you had sent an email to them. So I'm going to find the 00:40:37.084 --> 00:40:44.269 - schedule and then I had to pull it up. So what happened? It's just what happened? I don't know. And 00:40:44.269 --> 00:40:47.934 - they worked and taught them. And it was some boys. 00:40:48.258 --> 00:40:55.527 - women and men there, but they're kids. So boys and girls is what I call them. Whatever other genders 00:40:55.527 --> 00:41:02.724 - were present. I know that. So let me find it. So that's what I have and I'll send you all the other 00:41:02.724 --> 00:41:10.137 - day. I'll send you the details when I get it. OK, thanks. Yeah, if there's if there is a wrap up event 00:41:10.137 --> 00:41:17.982 - that would be really. Yeah, yeah. See what they did. Yeah. As long as the youths were reached, that's right. 00:41:28.322 --> 00:41:39.622 - Do we have any other? No. So we will wait for more updates for the camp. And then that's exciting. 00:41:39.622 --> 00:41:51.493 - So great. We'll move on to new business. I have that in order. I don't know what we want to do for next 00:41:51.493 --> 00:41:53.662 - year. I did email. 00:41:58.082 --> 00:42:05.336 - see who's up for renewal. Let's see myself, Julie and Molly with the county commissioners and Jennifer, 00:42:05.336 --> 00:42:12.451 - which is a lot, which is so weird that we all, there's four of us in that cycle because it used to be 00:42:12.451 --> 00:42:19.427 - different. I feel like we were spread out, but so I don't know what it is, what it is. I did verify 00:42:19.427 --> 00:42:26.611 - with everybody that we all were interested in reappointment, which is different than with the council. 00:42:26.611 --> 00:42:27.518 - Non-council. 00:42:27.682 --> 00:42:34.519 - Yeah. So yeah. Oh, sorry. You don't. Yes. So the different, their process is different. So with the 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:41.834 - commissioners, they don't, we don't have to fill anything out. They just reappoint us and then the council 00:42:41.834 --> 00:42:48.124 - is different. They send you, yeah, I feel like, yeah, there was a questionnaire and send in 00:42:48.124 --> 00:42:55.166 - that questionnaire. Yeah. So I did send that information back into Molly Turner King and I'm not sure. 00:42:56.162 --> 00:43:23.262 - Yeah, somebody said, what was somebody said something? Oh, my gosh. Wednesday. Oh, yeah, the question is, we 00:43:26.018 --> 00:43:32.824 - you know, December. Yeah, just send it today and it should be fine, I think. Is that what it was to 00:43:32.824 --> 00:43:39.629 - still send it in today? What about sending you the deadlines of the December 18th? I think so. I'll 00:43:39.629 --> 00:43:46.571 - help you with that. Yeah, he's going to do what's bright. Yeah, they probably don't know that so long 00:43:46.571 --> 00:43:53.444 - as by the end of the day today. I'll pull it out, but yeah, I saw that and I was like, what is this? 00:43:53.444 --> 00:43:55.486 - I really ignored it at first, 00:43:56.002 --> 00:44:05.029 - We appreciate your honesty here. I did. What is that? OK, I'll pull it out. I have a copy of it. OK, 00:44:05.029 --> 00:44:14.055 - great. And Kim got it. Yeah, it was just a matter of time. Yes. You did what you needed to do in the 00:44:14.055 --> 00:44:17.630 - right time. You're what? I'm just like. 00:44:17.762 --> 00:44:23.650 - So they move it along. It's about the end of the day. Well, they've already finished for the year, so 00:44:23.650 --> 00:44:29.537 - they're not even going to vote until next year. Oh, right. Yeah, it's fine. It won't be on the agenda 00:44:29.537 --> 00:44:35.483 - until next year. Yeah, it's January 13th, she said. Yeah, so we can still really well make assumptions 00:44:35.483 --> 00:44:41.659 - that we all that are interested are still moving forward. Yeah, until you know. So actually what I thought 00:44:41.659 --> 00:44:43.102 - of as well is, you know, 00:44:43.490 --> 00:44:51.381 - I do feel like it's been a few years in that even though there's still quite a few improvements to make 00:44:51.381 --> 00:44:59.197 - or progress to make or whatever we want to say, I do feel like we're at least in a groove. And I don't 00:44:59.197 --> 00:45:06.861 - know, should we ever reconsider going back to nine? Back to what? Back to all nine people. Well, but 00:45:06.861 --> 00:45:08.606 - we can recommend that. 00:45:14.146 --> 00:45:22.078 - you know originally we were nine with eleven with you know and then they changed it what prompted the 00:45:22.078 --> 00:45:30.010 - change you know you tell you they did it without asking us well at the time they were having problems 00:45:30.010 --> 00:45:37.942 - with forum and things additionally so they were thinking no if it's smaller then you'll have a better 00:45:37.942 --> 00:45:42.686 - time with work we were consulted and that as well yes so now 00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:50.281 - I mean, that was three years. I mean, it was really almost. This minute I took over, I think when. I 00:45:50.281 --> 00:45:57.768 - already forgot it, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, so kind of just submission Michelle. Yeah, 00:45:57.768 --> 00:46:05.039 - just something to think about. Three years ago. Feels like 10. I mean, I would love to. I would love 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:11.230 - to go tonight. I think we I think we have the work to do it. I know that we have the. 00:46:11.362 --> 00:46:19.928 - profile to do that. I think that it's an opportunity that we can offer to people to, you know, so I, 00:46:19.928 --> 00:46:28.410 - I mean, you know, people that might be interested. Yeah. We had what four, at least we had at least 00:46:28.410 --> 00:46:37.061 - four, um, applications. So when Eve came on, okay. Like solid. Yeah. Well, that seems like that would 00:46:37.061 --> 00:46:40.030 - be your interest, right? Yeah. So. 00:46:42.114 --> 00:46:49.869 - That seems like a good, a good goal for next year. If we can get the commission, get the women's commission 00:46:49.869 --> 00:46:57.408 - back up to nine. Let's do that. Okay. When we, we need to ask permission though. Yeah. I spoke to Molly. 00:46:57.408 --> 00:47:04.875 - You'll figure it's like a changing, changing the whatever resolution, not the resolution, the paperwork 00:47:04.875 --> 00:47:09.758 - behind the commission. It's got to, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, um, 00:47:11.874 --> 00:47:21.058 - Do we want to do our election of offer? I put that on here because obviously it's a new year. I mean, 00:47:21.058 --> 00:47:30.333 - I'm happy to wait until we're all sure we're reappointed, or we could just assume that and do that now 00:47:30.333 --> 00:47:39.607 - so we could just keep moving seamlessly would be my idea. But I will leave that up to the group. I can 00:47:39.607 --> 00:47:40.958 - go either way. 00:47:41.186 --> 00:47:52.252 - If we want to, if people are, are ready to say whether or not you want to. Do we want to talk about, 00:47:52.252 --> 00:48:03.427 - do we want to reappoint or reelect officers tonight? Okay. You want to be my spread out? Sure. That's 00:48:03.427 --> 00:48:10.110 - what I say. You're doing a great job. We're doing marvelous. 00:48:10.434 --> 00:48:18.464 - I don't I don't think that for me to me it doesn't matter either way and I don't think the reason that 00:48:18.464 --> 00:48:26.259 - if we decide to put it off, I don't think the reason should be waiting for people to be reappointed 00:48:26.259 --> 00:48:34.211 - because who knows when that might be on the agenda or you remember to be mentioned. So I feel like we 00:48:34.211 --> 00:48:39.902 - do what we normally do and do business as usual as we want as as. We do. 00:48:40.034 --> 00:48:51.187 - you see fit in terms of timeliness and such. But I don't care if it's tonight or in January. Either 00:48:51.187 --> 00:49:02.675 - one of you. Yeah, I'm fine either way. What do we do last year? I think we tried to do it in November, 00:49:02.675 --> 00:49:03.902 - didn't we? 00:49:04.290 --> 00:49:12.725 - correct because we didn't have a forum. Oh, right. Right. I think we did it in January. OK, so let's 00:49:12.725 --> 00:49:21.160 - just do it. So do we, how do we, do we do secretary first or do we want to do president or chair and 00:49:21.160 --> 00:49:30.013 - vice chair? Oh, I don't know. I thought we'd chair. Do we have any nominations for chair? Nominate Susan. 00:49:30.013 --> 00:49:31.934 - Any other nominations? 00:49:35.042 --> 00:49:52.071 - Wow. You'll pay. Maria? What? I don't know. Okay, so like me, I have been nominated. Is there any other 00:49:52.071 --> 00:50:00.094 - nominations? So as me to continue as vice chair, 00:50:00.322 --> 00:50:08.110 - As chair. Chair, sorry, as chair. So you probably need to vote on that. Yes. But you just did. Or you 00:50:08.110 --> 00:50:15.364 - can do that. Or it's late, I guess. Yes. Do you accept it? Let's do the city. I guess I accept 00:50:15.364 --> 00:50:23.381 - the commission. Okay. Let's vote. All in favor say aye. Yes. Any nays? Great. So now we have vice chair, 00:50:23.381 --> 00:50:29.566 - and aye. Of course, nobody's jubilant. Aye, second. Any other? None, the thirds. 00:50:29.762 --> 00:50:39.984 - Yes. Do we have any other nominations? Do you accept the nomination? Yes. All in favor say aye. Yes. 00:50:39.984 --> 00:50:50.104 - Virginia is vice chair. Yes. Yes. Fantastic. Passes. Are we doing a secretary? Do we have any? I am 00:50:50.104 --> 00:50:58.302 - happy to continue with Molly as secretary, so I'm going to nominate Molly. Okay. 00:50:58.626 --> 00:51:10.874 - All in favor of Molly continuing as secretary for 26? Yes. Yes. Molly will continue as 26. Fantastic. 00:51:10.874 --> 00:51:23.002 - That was easy. We might have actually done that correctly. Molly will tell us. I have the resolution 00:51:23.002 --> 00:51:28.286 - for establishing our 2026 meeting schedule. 00:51:28.738 --> 00:51:36.095 - I did update, made an update that you had pointed out with the wrong year in there. Oh, it says 2065. 00:51:36.095 --> 00:51:42.875 - Anyway, so all I need is for us. So we would continue on as the first Thursday of each month, 00:51:42.875 --> 00:51:50.159 - mencing at 5.30. Obviously these dates are the same for now. And last year when we finally did that, 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:57.516 - they made changes out of necessity on a couple of Wednesdays, but I'm gonna assume that they will let 00:51:57.516 --> 00:51:58.526 - us know that. 00:51:59.106 --> 00:52:08.790 - And is it in the Natu Hill? Yeah. They're all scheduled. Yes. First or third Thursday? Third Thursday. 00:52:08.790 --> 00:52:18.661 - I heard first. Third Thursday of each month at 5.30. So if we are all good with that resolution, I have. 00:52:18.661 --> 00:52:22.046 - Hope we just vote or have a motion. 00:52:22.370 --> 00:52:32.625 - Times have been made. We need to sell my middle side. So these Wednesdays are these one off things. 00:52:32.625 --> 00:52:43.598 - Yeah, I'm not cool. Like it's it's a little bit too much if we can. I don't know. Last year was an unusual 00:52:43.598 --> 00:52:50.366 - year. Yes, the year before I think it was maybe one or maybe one. 00:52:51.362 --> 00:52:59.858 - So I think maybe we need to say instead of we're okay moving days, if they can't figure out another 00:52:59.858 --> 00:53:08.609 - location at the same date and time, we just have to not meet potentially. Yeah. I'm agreeing wherever, 00:53:08.609 --> 00:53:16.510 - but at least that same date and time as much as possible. I feel like don't give the option. 00:53:16.962 --> 00:53:24.627 - of not having the meeting, say they need to find us another space venue. At the same date and time. 00:53:24.627 --> 00:53:32.598 - Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's reasonable. Yeah, there's even space in the county council office 00:53:32.598 --> 00:53:40.493 - there, and it has online capabilities. So there's even that space, and you don't seem to have, I mean, 00:53:40.493 --> 00:53:44.862 - we have a table that seats more than that, so. But yeah. 00:53:45.250 --> 00:53:57.447 - So do I, do I have a motion to accept this resolution as is as we meet on the third Thursday of every 00:53:57.447 --> 00:54:09.404 - month and then at Hillary motion? No, cause I want that. I want that in there about finding another 00:54:09.404 --> 00:54:13.470 - venue for the same days and time. 00:54:14.530 --> 00:54:22.267 - Yeah, sure. Well, it doesn't say that there's not. It doesn't say that I want. I'm saying that I wanted 00:54:22.267 --> 00:54:29.780 - it there. I agree. What does it say now? It just says we will meet full occur on the third Thursday. 00:54:29.780 --> 00:54:37.368 - That's all it says. Included say it won't do anything else, right? Well, I want that commitment. It's 00:54:37.368 --> 00:54:44.286 - I mean to me that says commitment that we there is no alternative. No it is, but they still. 00:54:44.386 --> 00:54:51.979 - send you a movie. They still move us because that's why we're here because there's notice yeah yeah 00:54:51.979 --> 00:54:59.875 - so who generally does the movie Molly okay so I would send that to her and say you want that along with 00:54:59.875 --> 00:55:07.620 - that and see what she says okay we will table this and I will make that uh ask for that you could you 00:55:07.620 --> 00:55:09.822 - could make it happen and say 00:55:10.370 --> 00:55:16.104 - if you need to, if there's anything different that won't allow that, right? You know, so you can accept 00:55:16.104 --> 00:55:21.672 - it with your clarification. And then if you need to meet again, then you could do it. Yeah, but they 00:55:21.672 --> 00:55:27.241 - still have to sign it. So like it has to be amended. I mean, it has to be correctly, but I will make 00:55:27.241 --> 00:55:32.865 - that amendments or work on that. I put your in wrap up in here just because I wanted to see if anyone 00:55:32.865 --> 00:55:38.488 - has any topics they'd like to talk about. I mentioned about coming to nine. I didn't know what we all 00:55:38.488 --> 00:55:39.646 - thought of the year. 00:55:39.778 --> 00:55:50.903 - and I just think I wanted to see if anyone had anything they wanted to talk about or share. I'm grateful 00:55:50.903 --> 00:56:01.605 - that we have got to see this come to fruition. Yes. Just to see that it's gone successful and people 00:56:01.605 --> 00:56:09.022 - are getting that education in coding, I think is it. The coding caps. 00:56:10.178 --> 00:56:16.598 - Yes, it's kind of they can continue though. That's another thing because they the MOU just it ends this 00:56:16.598 --> 00:56:22.834 - month. So I want to what should we do with Molly? So maybe we'll reach out to Molly to see if we can 00:56:22.834 --> 00:56:29.130 - extend it for 2026. Yeah, we need to check back in I think for next year and see can we do this again 00:56:29.130 --> 00:56:35.613 - and yeah, I mean. That is if we want to do that, do it again. So I think that would be up in discussion. 00:56:35.613 --> 00:56:39.934 - Yeah, it might be good in January to do a discussion of like how many 00:56:40.162 --> 00:56:45.803 - students and how to go and yeah, we if we need to wrap up event, we can talk about that. I mean, I think. 00:56:45.803 --> 00:56:51.338 - It may be doing in a different way, but we don't have to go through all this rigmarole, because I mean, 00:56:51.338 --> 00:56:56.872 - let is going to do it regardless, but we're going to do the outreach regardless and have a whole nother 00:56:56.872 --> 00:57:02.354 - outreach committee that's formed with property. So if it's something we can just come alongside of and 00:57:02.354 --> 00:57:06.398 - support in a different way and not necessarily worried about it monetarily. 00:57:06.562 --> 00:57:13.224 - I mean that 30 that will be my deal because that 30 I mean that $3,500 can only go so far thank you 00:57:13.224 --> 00:57:20.152 - for it but we still are going to do the work we're still going to because we go into elementary schools 00:57:20.152 --> 00:57:26.813 - every Friday anyway Club Fridays and we're we're helping them I have another proposal where I think 00:57:26.813 --> 00:57:32.542 - we should think about looking at so thriving connections have you heard of that group 00:57:32.930 --> 00:57:38.358 - And if you heard Asia speak at the credit, OK, so she's on the I mean, you not wear a thousand hats. 00:57:38.358 --> 00:57:43.894 - She's on the school board with me too, but we're partnered with them and let he we help them with some 00:57:43.894 --> 00:57:49.269 - of their Christmas stuff or holiday stuff, whatever people celebrate. But I think there's something 00:57:49.269 --> 00:57:54.966 - we can do as a commission, though, because there's a lot of women a part of that group and they're trying 00:57:54.966 --> 00:58:00.394 - to get the group is getting out of poverty. It's a really great group. So maybe thinking about other 00:58:00.394 --> 00:58:01.630 - things we can support. 00:58:02.242 --> 00:58:08.931 - because the camp's gonna happen. So I don't know if that's something we should invest our energy and 00:58:08.931 --> 00:58:15.554 - time in, worrying about going through the MOUs and all that. But we can still support it in another 00:58:15.554 --> 00:58:22.442 - way. Like even if we go to the ceremonies or stop by and have a date with the students, we can do that, 00:58:22.442 --> 00:58:28.867 - but it doesn't have to be at the extended run. Thank you. So do you, my recommendation would be, 00:58:28.867 --> 00:58:31.582 - you know, for the outreach subcommittee, 00:58:32.194 --> 00:58:41.490 - you know, in the very near future to present a couple, you know, propose, you guys discuss and propose. 00:58:41.490 --> 00:58:50.787 - Yeah. In the works, just working out some details. Great. So maybe this subcommittee needs to meet now. 00:58:50.787 --> 00:59:00.798 - We weren't so busy. We were busy. And we're going to meet in the streets. Right. So we'll get our Mondays down. 00:59:01.282 --> 00:59:17.301 - that's something we should talk about. We could talk. We could talk about that and who wants to be on 00:59:17.301 --> 00:59:28.766 - what subcommittee that sort of thing. OK. I'm staying with these ladies. 00:59:29.026 --> 00:59:40.364 - Okay and so I put the torchbearers award on here I just wanted to see what you know gave some you know 00:59:40.364 --> 00:59:51.701 - thoughts on that. Will you remind me what what's on the table? So it's we already sent out about Braun 00:59:51.701 --> 00:59:55.774 - yes doing the torchbearers award and 00:59:56.162 --> 01:00:05.244 - changing the way and essentially dismantling the Women's Commission in Indiana, which was under the 01:00:05.244 --> 01:00:14.962 - Civil Rights Commission, and by removing all their budget for anything. And I know Joe Gordon had resigned 01:00:14.962 --> 01:00:24.044 - months and months ago. I know that Senator Gilder, who was on the commission, didn't even know that 01:00:24.044 --> 01:00:25.406 - that happened. 01:00:26.114 --> 01:00:33.992 - ordered that email and talked about it. I mean, it is, I know Senator Yoder has supported that, 01:00:33.992 --> 01:00:42.608 - you know, Monroe County doing something even from Monroe County. I know that, you know, when Dr. Bernard 01:00:42.608 --> 01:00:50.814 - was nominated and then that was, yeah, they took that back that they recommended that, you know, we 01:00:50.814 --> 01:00:54.014 - come up with our own award. I do think 01:00:54.690 --> 01:01:01.421 - that there is something in that. I think that there is something in, you know, trying to decide, 01:01:01.421 --> 01:01:08.638 - you know, who Monroe County wants to be and, you know, figuring out how we can, you know, elevate that, 01:01:08.638 --> 01:01:15.786 - you know, in conjunction with how the commissioners feel, you know, by making a presentation that this 01:01:15.786 --> 01:01:20.990 - is what we want to do. If we want to do it, I don't necessarily think that 01:01:21.602 --> 01:01:27.478 - It has to be a shindig in any way, shape or form. I think it could easily be something low to no post 01:01:27.478 --> 01:01:33.296 - in the sense of presenting something, whether we do it for the state, you know, or for Monroe County 01:01:33.296 --> 01:01:39.632 - and elevate that or, you know, however we want to do that, you know, is to me easily. You could do something. 01:01:39.632 --> 01:01:45.566 - The courthouse is beautiful where you just have an evening where you present an award and you know you 01:01:45.566 --> 01:01:50.174 - invite people in the press to come and that's it. There's no shindig, you know. 01:01:51.778 --> 01:01:57.693 - I don't know. Well, it's something I've been wondering about. I know there are not very many women's 01:01:57.693 --> 01:02:03.550 - commissions. Yeah, but I know there are. We are not the only county level women's commission in the 01:02:03.550 --> 01:02:09.407 - state, so I am wondering about. Connecting with the other county women's commissions and discussing 01:02:09.407 --> 01:02:15.381 - this at that level. Across the across the state, they back baby and if not, we you know, how did they 01:02:15.381 --> 01:02:19.774 - have the authority to get rid of? I couldn't figure that safety funded it. 01:02:20.226 --> 01:02:29.813 - They didn't really get rid of it. They didn't give any money. It is a trend for how to reduce government 01:02:29.813 --> 01:02:39.036 - stock. You don't cancel it, you just take all the money. How convenient. But we don't have any money 01:02:39.036 --> 01:02:47.710 - for them to take. Again, I don't know what the city's planning with our city, with that there, 01:02:48.130 --> 01:02:54.699 - And then there are city level women's commissions as well, which might also be another route to consider 01:02:54.699 --> 01:03:01.143 - for collaborating on something. I mean, still, and you're talking less than a half a dozen. But still, 01:03:01.143 --> 01:03:07.587 - I think it's I think it's something that's worth considering as a path forward. And I have a coalition 01:03:07.587 --> 01:03:13.906 - ultimately. Yeah. Yeah. Which, you know, there's a state for you. Is what? Indy? Gary? I don't know. 01:03:13.906 --> 01:03:16.158 - Yeah, I love I'm totally in 2026 is 01:03:16.610 --> 01:03:25.234 - Coalition Alliance Building 2026, just so you know for me. I love that idea. I think we could figure 01:03:25.234 --> 01:03:33.943 - out how to get in touch. I know everybody. There you go. We could figure out a way to try to get some 01:03:33.943 --> 01:03:42.824 - discussions going if nothing else. Because you have the list. We could also Google it if we don't know. 01:03:42.824 --> 01:03:44.446 - But yes, there are 01:03:44.578 --> 01:03:52.113 - Yeah, yeah, but I do. But I mean, I can't even think the last time I ever talked to Jordan. It's been, 01:03:52.113 --> 01:03:59.429 - you know, it was probably two years before, even whenever you guys went up to the dinner last fall. 01:03:59.429 --> 01:04:06.964 - Yeah, it was before the election. Yeah, we sat with Peggy Mayfield. Oh, my. He was not very supportive 01:04:06.964 --> 01:04:11.134 - of women, it seemed, and it throughout the conversation. 01:04:12.866 --> 01:04:19.782 - And she said she basically gets paid to go to that commission to do nothing because it's a 01:04:19.782 --> 01:04:27.990 - nothing commission. It's more advisory and there's no power, but she gets paid extra to go. So she doesn't. 01:04:27.990 --> 01:04:35.818 - She's up for election. I was like, so many comments. Um, yes, it was my, it was my arm, my impression. 01:04:35.818 --> 01:04:41.822 - And we discussed it on the way back that the women's commission at that level. 01:04:42.242 --> 01:04:51.235 - the state level wasn't really doing anything in terms of having initiatives or they were giving out 01:04:51.235 --> 01:05:00.229 - these five awards for five or six awards including the tournament fair but I love that idea of like 01:05:00.229 --> 01:05:06.974 - because there when we first started we had to be on calls there were state 01:05:07.170 --> 01:05:14.071 - or there was a state call, right? And so I'm curious. I would that would be amazing that because it 01:05:14.071 --> 01:05:21.041 - doesn't have to. I don't want it to be an award from us, right? But we gotta be the convener of the. 01:05:21.041 --> 01:05:28.218 - Yes, there's some collaborative. I think that could happen. Yeah, I'm trying this though. Yeah, I don't 01:05:28.218 --> 01:05:35.326 - know why I said coalition and alliances. I'm trying not to use those words, but so it's collaborative. 01:05:37.826 --> 01:05:46.409 - Coalition Alliance is very like military and very alive. I'm trying to spell collaborators. I'm having 01:05:46.409 --> 01:05:54.909 - a hard time and I'm usually a good speller. But anyway, we'll see how that goes. Yeah, I spell check. 01:05:54.909 --> 01:06:03.326 - I think that's it. That's a thing. I think that I love that for next year. The possibility. Yeah, so 01:06:03.326 --> 01:06:07.326 - I'm gonna say my goals to get on. The table is. 01:06:08.066 --> 01:06:16.669 - raising us to nine and reaching out and seeing what kind of collaborative efforts and honestly see who's 01:06:16.669 --> 01:06:24.944 - still alive. Right. And who's around still. Yeah. I mean, it's not a positive environment and seeing 01:06:24.944 --> 01:06:32.318 - what other potential relationships, you know, collaborators we can find in that vein. So, 01:06:34.498 --> 01:06:43.085 - Now's not the time to quit and lay down just as though we know. OK. And then. That's all of the new 01:06:43.085 --> 01:06:52.272 - business I have. I'm going to guess no public comment. I don't know. We have people on for public comments 01:06:52.272 --> 01:07:01.374 - for people on three of them are probably you guys actually aren't on this time. Oh, what's the different? 01:07:01.666 --> 01:07:17.028 - You know they were always listed as on the call. Who's the Richard Crider? Who's Richard? You can ask 01:07:17.028 --> 01:07:28.926 - if Richard has anything to say. No one's unmuting, so. Oh yeah, true. Richard. 01:07:32.738 --> 01:07:40.382 - That's it. It's 644. I'm going to call us adjourned. Thank you, everybody. Happy New Year. Happy holidays.