WEBVTT 00:00:00.770 --> 00:00:10.535 - All right, let's go ahead and call the Monroe County Planning Commission meeting to order for the date 00:00:10.535 --> 00:00:19.636 - of August 18th, 2020. Please conduct a a roll call to see if we have court. Clements. Here. OK, 00:00:19.636 --> 00:00:29.022 - thank you, Margaret. And in the future, if you do vote, you will have to show your camera as well. 00:00:29.218 --> 00:00:44.936 - Turn your camera. Is my camera on now? Yes, thank you. OK, perfect. Thank you. Trump. Scott Ferris here. 00:00:44.936 --> 00:00:58.558 - Jeff Morris here. Dave. Rudy Fields here. Joe Van Deventer. Julie Thomas here. David Bush. 00:00:59.778 --> 00:01:08.292 - And then our city representative, Steve Bishop. Bishop, thank you. OK, so we have six members attending 00:01:08.292 --> 00:01:16.642 - in a quorum. I think Tron is on line now, too. Tron and Randolph, I'm here. OK, thank you. All right, 00:01:16.642 --> 00:01:24.991 - we do have quorum. This goes to introduction of evidence, please. Yes, I'd like to move the following 00:01:24.991 --> 00:01:27.038 - items into the evidence. 00:01:27.138 --> 00:01:33.248 - The Monroe County development ordinance as adopted and amended the Monroe County zoning and subdivision 00:01:33.248 --> 00:01:39.181 - control ordinance as adopted and amended the Monroe County comprehensive plan as adopted and amended 00:01:39.181 --> 00:01:45.056 - the Monroe County plan Commission rules or procedure as adopted and amended and the cases that were 00:01:45.056 --> 00:01:51.166 - legally advertised and scheduled for a hearing on tonight's agenda We have a motion for approval Second 00:01:51.618 --> 00:01:59.744 - It's been moved and seconded to approve the introduction of evidence. A vote yes is a vote to approve. 00:01:59.744 --> 00:02:07.948 - Tron and write Randolph. Yes. Scott Ferris, yes. Jeff Morris, yes. Rudy Fields, yes. Julie Thomas, yes. 00:02:07.948 --> 00:02:15.916 - David Bush, yes. Margaret Clements, yes. Motion is approved seven to zero. All right, that brings up 00:02:15.916 --> 00:02:21.438 - the agenda. Do we have any changes to the agenda Jackie? I'd like to. 00:02:21.570 --> 00:02:28.004 - bring one change under administrative business. We did have to submit the planning budget for 2027, 00:02:28.004 --> 00:02:34.566 - so we have that and I can present that as well on the screen for folks that are joining us virtually. 00:02:34.566 --> 00:02:41.129 - Hey, do we have a motion for approval for the agenda? I move approval of the agenda with the addition 00:02:41.129 --> 00:02:47.949 - of the budget conversation under administrative business. Second. It's been moved and seconded to approve 00:02:47.949 --> 00:02:51.230 - the agenda with one amendment, which is to add the 00:02:51.394 --> 00:03:01.118 - 2027 planning budget to administrative business. A vote yes is a vote to approve Scott Farris. Yes. 00:03:01.118 --> 00:03:10.940 - Jeff Morris. Yes. Rudy Fields. Yes. Julie Thomas. Yes. David Bush. Yes. Mark Clements. Yes. John and 00:03:10.940 --> 00:03:16.094 - Ray Randolph. Yes. OK, motion carries seven to zero. 00:03:16.962 --> 00:03:23.779 - All right, that brings up approval of minutes. It looks like we have the minutes from June 16th and 00:03:23.779 --> 00:03:30.665 - also from July 21st. I think we'll go both vote at the same time. If that's OK, do we have a motion? 00:03:30.665 --> 00:03:37.892 - I move approval of the minutes for June 16th and July 21st, 2026. Thank you. It's been moved and seconded 00:03:37.892 --> 00:03:44.982 - to approve both sets of minutes from June 16th and July 21st. A vote yes is a vote to approve both sets 00:03:44.982 --> 00:03:46.686 - of minutes. Jeff Morris. 00:03:46.914 --> 00:04:02.003 - Yes. Rudy Fields. Yes. Julie Thomas. Yes. David Bush. Yes. Mark Clements. John Henry Randolph. Yes. 00:04:02.003 --> 00:04:10.302 - Scott Ferris. Yes. OK, motion is approved six to zero. 00:04:11.426 --> 00:04:18.385 - Okay that brings us to administrative business. We now have two items. You've got the CDO prioritization 00:04:18.385 --> 00:04:25.410 - list and update on that and also on the budget. Go ahead Jackie. Yes so we have been making some progress 00:04:25.410 --> 00:04:32.302 - at our ordinance review committee meetings to discuss some of these topics that are left on the screen. 00:04:32.302 --> 00:04:33.694 - More importantly our 00:04:33.858 --> 00:04:41.034 - most relevant to the discussion coming up next is going to be the PUD open space 25 percent discussion. 00:04:41.034 --> 00:04:48.349 - And then we've been working alongside just internally with the landscaping requirements seeing if there's 00:04:48.349 --> 00:04:53.662 - any amendments needed there. So that's our update for those items remaining. 00:04:58.338 --> 00:05:05.539 - then the next would be the budget. Do you want me to go ahead and pull that up? Are there any questions 00:05:05.539 --> 00:05:12.670 - at all on the CDO prioritization update? Any questions at all? Go on the left. Right. All right. Let's 00:05:12.670 --> 00:05:19.663 - continue. OK, so the next item that we wanted to bring up was the twenty twenty seven budget that we 00:05:19.663 --> 00:05:26.656 - submitted to council per the directions that they provided from the council president. So we do have 00:05:26.656 --> 00:05:27.902 - on the screen our 00:05:28.002 --> 00:05:36.608 - budget for 2027. It does not include a cost of living adjustment. And it is pretty much the same as 00:05:36.608 --> 00:05:45.902 - last year with actually some reductions as requested by the council. So this is the budget for the planning 00:05:45.902 --> 00:05:54.078 - department for 2027. Any questions on the budget as presented? Starting on my right this time. 00:05:57.250 --> 00:06:04.827 - You said it didn't include cost of living. Is that something that the council factors in across county? 00:06:04.827 --> 00:06:12.186 - Could it be a cost of living increase this year? They typically do it after the budget hearings as a 00:06:12.186 --> 00:06:19.544 - countywide cost of living if there is one. I just I just want to point out for folks who aren't used 00:06:19.544 --> 00:06:26.174 - to reading county budgets that the longevity and perf are lower because there is a vacancy 00:06:26.914 --> 00:06:40.010 - uh, bringing on a new member changes, changes. I want to point that out. So, yep. Anybody else on my 00:06:40.010 --> 00:06:54.014 - left? Anybody online? Yes. And just also, um, the fact that I'm hearing you. How about now? Is that better? 00:06:56.802 --> 00:07:13.066 - can you increase the volume in the room. I'll try again. Yes, I just took it off. That's better. OK, 00:07:13.066 --> 00:07:26.110 - I was just saying that also some things that have heard from a button effective. 00:07:26.306 --> 00:07:35.474 - be able to hire at skills, knowledge, KSA knowledge, skills and abilities at different grid points. 00:07:35.474 --> 00:07:45.100 - That is currently frozen. So also with the addition of new planners, there's gonna be a reduction that's 00:07:45.100 --> 00:07:54.910 - probably not reflected in a flat budget, but just for folks edification and also if the Council were going 00:07:55.778 --> 00:08:03.375 - smaller personnel due to that fact as well. I hope that makes sense. And if I'm choppy, if Director 00:08:03.375 --> 00:08:11.351 - Jackie Nestor Jalen wants to clarify, that would be great. Commissioner Thomas. The other thing I forgot 00:08:11.351 --> 00:08:19.480 - to point out is that there are some budget items on the bottom and the back of the page that are a dollar. 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:23.582 - Those are just to keep the lines open for the future. 00:08:23.842 --> 00:08:35.518 - If you zero out a budget line, that line disappears. So that's why those are a dollar. Thank you. Sorry. 00:08:35.518 --> 00:08:47.416 - Okay. Any other comments from anybody else left, right, or on line? Let's go ahead and move on to finished 00:08:47.416 --> 00:08:53.310 - business, which there is none. And this is COA 26.3. 00:08:53.538 --> 00:09:01.263 - which is a whole bunch of CDO text amendments to comply with some of the state statute changes, et cetera. 00:09:01.263 --> 00:09:08.917 - And Jackie, I believe you're going to provide us a summary of that, correct? So I want to start by saying 00:09:08.917 --> 00:09:15.198 - that these amendments are going to be heard for a vote at the next meeting. We did not 00:09:15.362 --> 00:09:22.182 - advertises for a waiver of final hearing. So we will be seeing this next month. And staff has continued 00:09:22.182 --> 00:09:28.739 - to work with the legal department and amongst other staff to identify any other scrivener's errors, 00:09:28.739 --> 00:09:32.542 - changes, state code changes. So this is a document that's 00:09:32.930 --> 00:09:40.472 - in good order for now, but we'll also need an update by next month as well, most likely. So I want to 00:09:40.472 --> 00:09:48.089 - start with the use table. So there were some changes that were prompted by staff, and I'll point those 00:09:48.089 --> 00:09:55.483 - out. And then most of these changes are prompted by state code requirements. So the first change on 00:09:55.483 --> 00:09:59.550 - page 61 of the packet, temporary or seasonal activity, 00:09:59.650 --> 00:10:06.715 - We are, staff has seen a need to add permitted with standards for that use in the residential zoning 00:10:06.715 --> 00:10:13.921 - district. That used to be a use that we had in one of the two zones that REZ consolidated. And so what 00:10:13.921 --> 00:10:21.056 - we're seeing is there's some rural properties that have enough acreage that can accommodate this type 00:10:21.056 --> 00:10:24.414 - of use. So we're proposing to add that back in. 00:10:27.682 --> 00:10:35.978 - The next change is on page 65 of the packet. So you have sporting goods stores, small, medium, large, 00:10:35.978 --> 00:10:44.192 - and big box. This is a requirement under the state code. Recently, there's been some new legislation 00:10:44.192 --> 00:10:52.487 - that allows sporting goods stores that sell firearms to be permitted in certain districts. So this is 00:10:52.487 --> 00:10:54.846 - addressing that change here. 00:10:58.498 --> 00:11:05.505 - On the same page, staff has recommended changing bus terminal. There is a P proposed in the heavy industrial 00:11:05.505 --> 00:11:12.061 - district. So that's one red line change here, since we know that there's at least one bus terminal of 00:11:12.061 --> 00:11:18.489 - interest in the county that's zoned heavy industrial right now. And without this change, they would 00:11:18.489 --> 00:11:24.917 - have to go through a rezone. So we are proposing, since we think that this use is in alignment with 00:11:24.917 --> 00:11:26.910 - the heavy industrial district, 00:11:27.074 --> 00:11:34.704 - potentially that we included here. And then indoor shooting range, another state statute update here 00:11:34.704 --> 00:11:42.862 - permitted with standards in the AG, limited business, general business, light industrial, heavy industrial, 00:11:42.862 --> 00:11:50.718 - mineral extraction zones. That is directly from the state code changes here. So those are some updates. 00:11:53.666 --> 00:12:01.241 - Next I'd like to go to page 107 of the packet. This is starting to get into some of the standards for 00:12:01.241 --> 00:12:08.891 - some of those aforementioned additions to the use table. Again, these are going to align directly with 00:12:08.891 --> 00:12:16.318 - the state code changes. I do have one comment in here that was from the ordinance review committee. 00:12:16.546 --> 00:12:23.244 - where there was a strike through on the indoor shooting range that said noise shall not be audible at 00:12:23.244 --> 00:12:30.074 - the property line. And there was a request, I believe, by the ordinance review committee to see if that 00:12:30.074 --> 00:12:36.707 - might be able to still stay in the text. So I do not believe we've received an answer to that unless 00:12:36.707 --> 00:12:42.814 - Timmy has heard anything, but we will continue to follow up before the next meeting on that. 00:12:47.202 --> 00:12:56.004 - The next change is on page 129 of the packet. And this is getting into some of the bigger changes that 00:12:56.004 --> 00:13:05.318 - we've identified that the state has made to the wireless communication facilities chapter for our ordinance. 00:13:05.318 --> 00:13:07.454 - So that's chapter 812-3. 00:13:08.226 --> 00:13:16.033 - And basically the state has limited our ability to regulate height of wireless support structures. So 00:13:16.033 --> 00:13:24.147 - right now, if a new wireless support structure comes to the county, height is the differentiating feature 00:13:24.147 --> 00:13:31.877 - as to the process of review. So if it's over 199 feet, for instance, in an industrial zone, it would 00:13:31.877 --> 00:13:35.934 - go to a Board of Zoning Appeals for conditional use. 00:13:36.098 --> 00:13:43.902 - Now what we're proposing are kind of two changes. One is that the differentiating process is whether 00:13:43.902 --> 00:13:51.166 - it's concealed and that's particular to the residential, rural residential and airport zones. 00:13:51.490 --> 00:13:58.503 - Or if it's in a industrial institutional or business zone, we are saying that it does not have to be 00:13:58.503 --> 00:14:05.586 - concealed and can still be under administrative review. So we are seeking some feedback from the plan 00:14:05.586 --> 00:14:12.738 - commission as to whether this is the appropriate differentiation. We've checked with legal that we can 00:14:12.738 --> 00:14:19.682 - require a concealed tower as a differentiation of the process. But we want to make sure that that's 00:14:19.682 --> 00:14:20.862 - in line with the 00:14:21.538 --> 00:14:28.575 - comprehensive plan and what we would like to see in the county in general. There are some other changes 00:14:28.575 --> 00:14:35.477 - that are being requested of us. We're basically having to strike through the image here where we were 00:14:35.477 --> 00:14:42.311 - differentiating again by height. We used to allow 60 foot or less towers and residential. Now we are 00:14:42.311 --> 00:14:48.062 - going to differentiate based on concealed. So we've had to get rid of this image and 00:14:48.194 --> 00:14:54.606 - We've put together some updated images based on the state code and what we're seeing around the state 00:14:54.606 --> 00:15:01.081 - in terms of wireless facilities. There are some that occur in the right of way, in which case planning 00:15:01.081 --> 00:15:07.493 - does not have regulatory authority over that. But there are some requirements by highway that they're 00:15:07.493 --> 00:15:13.905 - still able to implement. But we wanted to point it out in case it is outside of the right of way. And 00:15:13.905 --> 00:15:16.734 - it's something that we are able to regulate. 00:15:16.930 --> 00:15:25.784 - And then we did add some images or at least two ideas for what a concealed wireless facility may look 00:15:25.784 --> 00:15:34.812 - like, either posted on top of a building or disguised as a tree. There are some other ideas or guidance 00:15:34.812 --> 00:15:38.718 - in the code as to what a concealed tower can 00:15:38.882 --> 00:15:45.364 - mean and then carrier on wheels. This is just an example if there's say a big football game there's 00:15:45.364 --> 00:15:52.041 - sometimes these that come in and they don't require permission if they're there for a limited time but 00:15:52.041 --> 00:15:56.190 - if they're there for so many days they do have to get a permit. 00:15:58.914 --> 00:16:06.587 - We've continued to make some edits to eliminate some of the height restrictions. We've clarified that 00:16:06.587 --> 00:16:14.260 - the setback or the requirement for the placement of a wireless structure is the setback of the zoning 00:16:14.260 --> 00:16:22.083 - district plus the fall zone. The fall zone is the area in which the tower is constructed and if it fell 00:16:22.083 --> 00:16:25.694 - over, how much area it would take to fall over. 00:16:26.082 --> 00:16:32.814 - recently designed these to collapse in on themselves. So there may be a engineer that signs off on a 00:16:32.814 --> 00:16:40.078 - zero foot fall zone, but for the most part we do see some area of a fall zone and then we can also implement 00:16:40.078 --> 00:16:41.278 - a zoning setback. 00:16:46.530 --> 00:16:56.521 - for the most part. There was also some state code requirements saying we are limited in what we can 00:16:56.521 --> 00:17:04.414 - and cannot ask for in terms of service area, so we made those changes as well. 00:17:05.346 --> 00:17:12.565 - The last changes chapter 844 renumbering to add in shooting range that's just moving items 00:17:12.565 --> 00:17:20.894 - down to accommodate some of these other changes and then chapter 846 and chapter 850 both had to do with 00:17:21.058 --> 00:17:27.952 - One had to do with the removal of a member of the Plan Commission in both of those sections. And then 00:17:27.952 --> 00:17:34.779 - Chapter 850, we've mimicked some definitions directly from the state code changes. So those included 00:17:34.779 --> 00:17:42.078 - mixed use residential, shooting range indoor, shooting range outdoor, will serve letter, accessory dwelling 00:17:42.078 --> 00:17:48.702 - units, attached and detached, shooting range, manufactured home, mobile home, and sporting goods. 00:17:49.474 --> 00:17:58.371 - So those were all state aligned changes in the code. Mr. Schilling's here. I can return to the question 00:17:58.371 --> 00:18:07.182 - about the noise at the property line if anyone is wanting to have that discussion tonight as well. OK, 00:18:07.182 --> 00:18:15.908 - sorry. I have something I thought about since our last admin meeting and it relates to noise, but not 00:18:15.908 --> 00:18:17.790 - with shooting ranges. 00:18:18.754 --> 00:18:31.880 - Are there ourselves towers powered by generators if the powers out? And that's what I thought. So, so 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:45.006 - can we allow for setback to accommodate for that noise? I don't know if we can do that legally. I can 00:18:45.006 --> 00:18:47.966 - look at Mr. Bush. Yes. 00:18:49.154 --> 00:18:58.325 - Jackie, I had one question regarding the. The. Limits to the shooting ranges at property line. Are you 00:18:58.325 --> 00:19:07.851 - going for a zero noise or are you going for? Lower limit so many decibels or. As it was originally drafted 00:19:07.851 --> 00:19:16.933 - before the state made the change, it said noise shall not be audible at the property line that's been 00:19:16.933 --> 00:19:19.070 - struck through based on 00:19:19.298 --> 00:19:30.007 - some of the recommendations by legal, but we could ask to see if maybe we could assess a decibel reading 00:19:30.007 --> 00:19:40.614 - or if there's something that we can keep in there. Yeah, I think that in rural areas, the decibel level 00:19:40.614 --> 00:19:47.550 - is between 30 and 40 decibels. So I think you could do that easily. 00:19:48.098 --> 00:19:58.398 - just some sort of an ambient background, natural level rather than zero, which might be hard to attain. 00:19:58.398 --> 00:20:08.598 - Do you have more to discuss or is that it? That's it for me. We had some on the left. How about on the 00:20:08.598 --> 00:20:17.214 - right? Any comments on the right? I keep going back to the concealed cell phone tower. 00:20:18.978 --> 00:20:25.397 - And where I keep going on that is I did a quick Google search, and it looks like it costs one to three 00:20:25.397 --> 00:20:31.816 - times more to conceal a tower versus just building a straight metal tower. And at a time when the cost 00:20:31.816 --> 00:20:38.235 - of everything just keeps growing exponentially, I wonder, you know, somebody has to pay for that. Does 00:20:38.235 --> 00:20:44.468 - the cost get passed back to the customers? I have to assume it does. And, you know, I keep thinking 00:20:44.468 --> 00:20:46.462 - about that with that negatively 00:20:46.978 --> 00:20:53.370 - end up hurting the residents of Monroe County if our cell phone bills go up. The other piece of that 00:20:53.370 --> 00:20:59.762 - too is I think it was at the BZA a few months ago where we had a variance for one in Harrodsburg and 00:20:59.762 --> 00:21:06.090 - I wonder if we had these restrictions in place or these extra requirements in place if a cell phone 00:21:06.090 --> 00:21:12.482 - company would consider moving a tower to northern Lawrence County or something instead of putting it 00:21:12.482 --> 00:21:15.710 - in Harrodsburg and if that would negatively impact 00:21:15.810 --> 00:21:22.847 - reception, you know, when more and more people are counting on cell towers for, you know, more than 00:21:22.847 --> 00:21:29.885 - just cell phone calls for data usage for working from home in a rural area and things like that. So 00:21:29.885 --> 00:21:36.922 - I definitely understand and support the idea of concealing them, but those thoughts have been on my 00:21:36.922 --> 00:21:43.960 - mind since the last conversation. Mr. Thomas. Oh, after you. Okay. I was going to bring up the same 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:44.734 - point, but 00:21:48.898 --> 00:21:56.687 - In fact, there's a cost factor here we haven't thought about. Seal it versus not concealing it if we 00:21:56.687 --> 00:22:04.707 - put it out in an industrial area. Actual data point. To be able to research what Mr. Morris stated that 00:22:04.707 --> 00:22:12.958 - it's three times the cost? If it costs three times as much or any times as much, I would argue that we do. 00:22:14.946 --> 00:22:21.185 - have them incur that cost. I would make that argument. But at the same time, if there's not a cost, 00:22:21.185 --> 00:22:27.487 - I don't know why you just don't have a standard across the board. That's my own thought. Cost factor 00:22:27.487 --> 00:22:33.788 - here, let's talk about the cost factor. And it's on the same topic, concealing. You know, cell phone 00:22:33.788 --> 00:22:40.464 - rates are pretty much nationally driven and decided. So, you know, a local decision to require concealment 00:22:40.464 --> 00:22:43.646 - is not going to necessarily impact someone's cost. 00:22:43.778 --> 00:22:52.239 - and we can't focus on service areas either. I still don't have cell service at my house. If I go in 00:22:52.239 --> 00:23:00.785 - the woods, I can get it, but I can't get it at my house. So I think maybe the way to bridge this and 00:23:00.785 --> 00:23:09.330 - come up with a compromise is to think through which zones we would want it concealed and which zones 00:23:09.330 --> 00:23:10.430 - we wouldn't. 00:23:11.106 --> 00:23:18.459 - Maybe that's the way to do it, right? Because we really don't want an unconcealed cell tower in the 00:23:18.459 --> 00:23:26.107 - middle of houses, right? But where would we want to have it concealed? And maybe that's the way we need 00:23:26.107 --> 00:23:33.901 - to think about it, and maybe staff can come up with some suggestions on that side. I mean, I'm not trying 00:23:33.901 --> 00:23:39.710 - to make it more expensive for cell phone carriers, certainly, but I think it's 00:23:40.098 --> 00:23:49.261 - our community deserves something that looks nice or doesn't look terrible at the very least. So maybe 00:23:49.261 --> 00:23:58.335 - that's the way to bridge this gap. Right now what we've proposed is rural residential. So that would 00:23:58.335 --> 00:24:07.678 - be the AGR, FOR, CVR, RNH residential, which would be the REZ, LD, CD, HD. And then I think we also did 00:24:08.002 --> 00:24:15.062 - airport because that one has more height restrictions that's more less about concealed, more about verifying 00:24:15.062 --> 00:24:21.540 - it meets FAA. But we could look at maybe the applications that we've had in the past, like maybe in 00:24:21.540 --> 00:24:28.082 - the past five years, what zones they're currently going in. Would that be helpful to know that data? 00:24:28.082 --> 00:24:34.818 - OK, sure. So I thought at the last meeting it was and I might have misheard because I was on teams that 00:24:34.818 --> 00:24:37.150 - at the last meeting was stated that 00:24:37.474 --> 00:24:44.701 - we could add, you know, industrial commercial blah, blah, blah. So, um, I didn't, I didn't know if that 00:24:44.701 --> 00:24:51.928 - had been done or maybe I misheard. So to say, yes. So right now the way it's drafted, um, it's housing, 00:24:51.928 --> 00:24:59.502 - it's housing right now. So it says new wireless support structures that are not concealed shall be permitted 00:24:59.502 --> 00:25:06.590 - in any industrial institutional or business zoning districts. So that still leaves out airport. Okay. 00:25:06.818 --> 00:25:15.143 - but we do have concealed, can be in any district, but non-concealed specifically still can get administrative 00:25:15.143 --> 00:25:23.316 - review under those zones. Right, and the height at the airport is related to FAA regulations, not something 00:25:23.316 --> 00:25:30.732 - we're doing locally. It is FAA that regulates how tall structures can be near an airport. Got it, 00:25:30.732 --> 00:25:36.030 - thank you. So nevermind. So just to reiterate, are we okay with those 00:25:36.258 --> 00:25:46.669 - the. Concealed zones being in the rural residential residential. And then non concealed being the. Business 00:25:46.669 --> 00:25:56.309 - industrial and institutional districts. Or is that something you still wants to have to research on 00:25:56.309 --> 00:26:06.142 - the cost in the list to start on our left and see if anybody wants to challenge that or accept. Um I. 00:26:06.722 --> 00:26:14.634 - Um, that's the one I'm a little iffy on, but the others I, I accept. I agree with Jeff. I think that 00:26:14.634 --> 00:26:22.467 - the additional cost that this is going to bring to things is, is limiting. Um, you know, back rates 00:26:22.467 --> 00:26:30.849 - may be set somewhere else, but I think that the fact that we're in a position to, in a time when inflation 00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.982 - is crazy and everything's costing more, 00:26:34.338 --> 00:26:42.170 - for us to simply say we want it to be prettier and concealing a cell tower to me is like putting a bikini 00:26:42.170 --> 00:26:49.633 - on an elephant. It's still going to be a cell tower and everybody's going to know it's a cell tower. 00:26:49.633 --> 00:26:57.022 - It's going to have some limbs on it. I just think that it's a ridiculous way to spend money. Having 00:26:57.022 --> 00:27:02.046 - come from a different part of the state where there were a lot more 00:27:02.498 --> 00:27:18.480 - restrictions, I think, and a lot more. If it is to co-locate or find innovative ways to hang so on existing 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:30.910 - structures, I would accept proposed. All right. How about online? Margaret or Tron? 00:27:34.082 --> 00:27:45.940 - Yeah, I have nothing to add. So what did we just decide, Jackie? Leave it as it is, sounds like. But 00:27:45.940 --> 00:27:58.032 - I appreciate your point, Mr. Fields. I'm happy to bring back some cost numbers, if I can get to those. 00:27:58.032 --> 00:28:03.550 - Personally, I'd like to see some cost numbers. 00:28:05.378 --> 00:28:12.914 - to time consuming. Okay. Okay. So I guess we're at that point. You've reviewed all the proposed amendments 00:28:12.914 --> 00:28:19.957 - and you're going to because this is not the final hearing because we don't have waiver, we're going 00:28:19.957 --> 00:28:26.366 - to hear it again. Will we hear it at the admin meeting too or just at the plan commission? 00:28:27.138 --> 00:28:33.856 - We can hear this. We'll hear it at the admin meeting. And I'll also add in the indoor shooting range. 00:28:33.856 --> 00:28:40.508 - The noise shall not be audible at a level of 30 decibels or more at the property line. So that'll be 00:28:40.508 --> 00:28:47.094 - a change that I'll make. I don't believe we're going to do a motion. In fact, it automatically goes 00:28:47.094 --> 00:28:53.022 - to the next hearing. So any other questions on this topic before we move on from anybody? 00:28:56.770 --> 00:29:04.367 - One thing I guess I should bring up, because this is a planning commission, does this require public 00:29:04.367 --> 00:29:12.114 - hearing input? When we hear it to vote. When we hear it to vote on it, that will be the public hearing 00:29:12.114 --> 00:29:19.936 - portion? Yep. Okay. I see nods around a row, so. Okay. So that takes us to for items not on the agenda. 00:29:19.936 --> 00:29:25.502 - Do we have any items not on the agenda that needs to be brought up? Okay. 00:29:29.154 --> 00:29:36.146 - it comes to reports and so Jackie if you got a report from planning. I do not have any reports I am 00:29:36.146 --> 00:29:43.559 - happy to say though that we're approved for both office manager and planner to hiring through the council 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:50.761 - so we are working through those applications and hope to get those jobs filled. Great and then I guess 00:29:50.761 --> 00:29:58.103 - from our county attorney you have anything you'd like to report? No report. All right do I have a motion 00:29:58.103 --> 00:29:58.942 - to adjourn? 00:29:59.810 --> 00:30:00.318 - Second.