WEBVTT 00:00:00.322 --> 00:00:07.842 - Okay, it's time, we have a quorum. Wanna call the roll, please? Commissioner Martin? Present. Commissioner 00:00:07.842 --> 00:00:15.361 - Cassidy? Present. Commissioner Kiesling? Here. Commissioner Jones? Here. I do not see Commissioner McCarty 00:00:15.361 --> 00:00:22.670 - either in here or online, and I do not see Commissioner Tucker either in the room or online, so we have 00:00:22.670 --> 00:00:24.638 - a quorum with four members. 00:00:31.938 --> 00:00:39.159 - Our first discussion item is Ivy Tech. And we have a guest, Eric Coyne. You are the chancellor now? 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:46.379 - Yes, sir. OK, of Ivy Tech. Yes, sir. Welcome to our meeting. It's going to be a fun one, because we 00:00:46.379 --> 00:00:53.745 - get to do something we've been waiting to do for a long time. We'll let Jeff introduce the topic, and 00:00:53.745 --> 00:01:01.182 - we'll go from there. We put this on because we have to give Ivy Tech back their property, essentially. 00:01:01.634 --> 00:01:08.626 - About 20 years ago or so, actually it was 17 or 18 years ago, I remember, because I had just taken over 00:01:08.626 --> 00:01:14.878 - the RDC when we were doing the construction project for the Indiana Life Science Center. And 00:01:14.878 --> 00:01:21.802 - that construction project was a bigger task than I thought it was going to be when I got employed with 00:01:21.802 --> 00:01:28.525 - the county and decided and was given the opportunity to represent the Redevelopment Commission. But 00:01:28.525 --> 00:01:30.878 - we got it through, we got it done. 00:01:31.010 --> 00:01:38.579 - But the lease agreement was a little bit different than what we're used to, right? Because Ivy Tech 00:01:38.579 --> 00:01:46.298 - owns the land, has owned the land the entire time. They leased the land to us. We built the building. 00:01:46.298 --> 00:01:53.943 - And then we leased the land with the building back to them. And that lease had to go for a period of 00:01:53.943 --> 00:02:00.830 - time. I think it was 20 years. So I think it was actually signed at the beginning of 2020. 00:02:01.026 --> 00:02:06.855 - 2007, or the end of 2006, has a provision in there that says once the debt that we issued to pay for 00:02:06.855 --> 00:02:12.626 - the Life Science Center was done, then the Redevelopment Commission could then at any point in time 00:02:12.626 --> 00:02:18.455 - thereafter terminate the lease agreements. And terminate the lease agreements in accordance with the 00:02:18.455 --> 00:02:24.515 - lease documents means transferring all our ownership interests back to Ivy Tech. They own the underlying 00:02:24.515 --> 00:02:28.382 - land and just kind of getting rid of that whole lease arrangement. 00:02:28.482 --> 00:02:36.636 - that was necessary in order to do the bonding and the financing for the project. So we paid that loan 00:02:36.636 --> 00:02:44.790 - off, I think, three or four years ago. And so there wasn't any problems. But the beginning of 2027 is 00:02:44.790 --> 00:02:53.024 - when we have to transfer it back. I've been working with Mr. Coyne and their attorneys. We're like 95% 00:02:53.024 --> 00:02:56.382 - of the way sure that we got the documents 00:02:56.482 --> 00:03:03.396 - as necessary, we've decided to do a quick claim deed because it's a lot easier than doing a document 00:03:03.396 --> 00:03:10.243 - that describes what I just described, right, with the lease and all that. So it's a lot simpler and 00:03:10.243 --> 00:03:17.225 - it would give anybody doing a title search the understanding of exactly who owns the property at that 00:03:17.225 --> 00:03:21.470 - point in time. So what I'm looking for is to making sure that 00:03:21.666 --> 00:03:28.052 - If the RDC is comfortable, we can go ahead and authorize the president to go ahead and sign both the 00:03:28.052 --> 00:03:34.690 - deed and any related documents, sales disclosure forms, and things like that. It's substantially similar 00:03:34.690 --> 00:03:41.582 - to what you guys receive in the packet. Just making sure that Ivy Tech, if they have any issues or anything, 00:03:41.582 --> 00:03:48.094 - I think theirs is who signs it is probably going to be one of their bigger issues. So we can get that. 00:03:48.866 --> 00:03:55.079 - all squared away. But again, this is for the Indiana Life Science Center, which was phenomenal when 00:03:55.079 --> 00:04:01.415 - it was built. And I think it really inspired the second thing we did with them, which was the nursing 00:04:01.415 --> 00:04:07.628 - school. So I think both of those things are great. So what we're looking for today is, are you guys 00:04:07.628 --> 00:04:14.275 - comfortable with, once Ivy Tech and us make sure that we all have the documents, whereas we're comfortable 00:04:14.275 --> 00:04:17.630 - authorizing the president to go ahead and sign off on 00:04:22.210 --> 00:04:27.681 - We're checking all the financial things that were taken care of. Yes. There's no money owed. 00:04:27.681 --> 00:04:33.682 - No money owed. And all we're doing is transferring the land that they had to lease back to us anyway. 00:04:33.682 --> 00:04:39.741 - We built the building. It's all paid for. And the only question I have is, Mr. Coyne, do you want your 00:04:39.741 --> 00:04:45.683 - land back? Yes, sir. Yes. Yes, Mr. Commissioner. I just want to verify that we're not trying to give 00:04:45.683 --> 00:04:49.566 - you something that you really don't want. No, it's been terrific. 00:04:49.890 --> 00:04:52.990 - If this is a good time, I'd just share a few thoughts. 00:04:53.186 --> 00:05:00.235 - you know, really appreciate the confidence in Ivy Tech, our students, our community to really, it has 00:05:00.235 --> 00:05:07.283 - really made a difference for the life sciences community in particular, but it goes well beyond that. 00:05:07.283 --> 00:05:14.539 - We now, you know, as Jeff said, it opened in 2009 and the purpose has always been workforce development. 00:05:14.539 --> 00:05:19.998 - And so it started really as biotech life sciences focus and we've expanded now 00:05:20.098 --> 00:05:25.747 - We house the semiconductor program, and we will have a fiber optics training program in there as well. 00:05:25.747 --> 00:05:31.342 - That flex space that we have in there has really done a lot. We've had job fairs. We've managed a few 00:05:31.342 --> 00:05:37.320 - different layoffs over time and been able to put them in there and help with that and then do some training. 00:05:37.320 --> 00:05:42.476 - And various industries have come in there and used it. And it also houses the Cook Center for 00:05:42.476 --> 00:05:43.902 - Entrepreneurship as well. 00:05:44.258 --> 00:05:50.953 - We've had about 3,000 entrepreneurs and small businesses go through there and get services through there, 00:05:50.953 --> 00:05:57.331 - and about $5 million in investment into the community through the Small Business Development Center, 00:05:57.331 --> 00:06:03.647 - just through that. So really appreciate it. I mean, it's a lot more than the bricks and mortar that 00:06:03.647 --> 00:06:06.110 - we talk about. It really has, I think, 00:06:06.466 --> 00:06:12.085 - transformed our community and our workforce development opportunities that we can do. I mean, frankly, 00:06:12.085 --> 00:06:17.539 - I wouldn't, we would not have the room to do this fiber optic training program, but for the Indiana 00:06:17.539 --> 00:06:23.267 - Center for Life Sciences and that flex space. So really appreciate the RDC believing in this partnership 00:06:23.267 --> 00:06:28.886 - and working with us. It's been, it's been great. Hopefully we do another one one day. This is the type 00:06:28.886 --> 00:06:33.086 - of things that we look in that makes for long-term community enhancement and 00:06:33.506 --> 00:06:41.736 - and helps build the human element, not just the building. So I appreciate it. Thank you. You said it. 00:06:41.736 --> 00:06:49.804 - I remember when we started that, that's a long time ago. I think I was a county commissioner at the 00:06:49.804 --> 00:06:57.953 - time. Yes. Well, this is such a good example of what long-term investments that are supported by our 00:06:57.953 --> 00:07:03.198 - tax dollars can actually do to benefit the community as a whole. 00:07:03.586 --> 00:07:09.553 - And this is a good example of that, and we hope to be able to continue to do this kind of work. And 00:07:09.553 --> 00:07:15.878 - I would just point out that, you know, I do handle most of the tax payments that come through the county, 00:07:15.878 --> 00:07:21.905 - and I would say 90 percent of them, I'd be tax included in that conversation, right, because there's 00:07:21.905 --> 00:07:27.454 - always workforce development, workforce needs that we have, and so I think investing in them 00:07:28.258 --> 00:07:34.968 - and creating this space not only helps with what they do in this space, but it also helps them do other 00:07:34.968 --> 00:07:41.419 - things in the rest of the campus that helps facilitate things such as, you know, I want to say some 00:07:41.419 --> 00:07:47.936 - manufacturing ideas that, you know, people come in and they go, hey, Ivy Tech, can you help us train 00:07:47.936 --> 00:07:51.742 - people to do X, Y, or Z? And Ivy Tech has always said yes. 00:07:52.386 --> 00:07:58.901 - And typically, they have an area of the state, because it's a statewide thing, where they're already 00:07:58.901 --> 00:08:05.673 - doing that type of training at a different location that they could just bring it down. And they already 00:08:05.673 --> 00:08:12.123 - have the curriculum. And it makes those conversations go pretty well. Take him with me everywhere I 00:08:12.123 --> 00:08:18.895 - go. Out of curiosity, having been at Edwood School last month, are you guys connected at all with there? 00:08:18.895 --> 00:08:20.766 - Sorry, which school? Edwood. 00:08:20.994 --> 00:08:28.756 - We work with RBB. We had a presentation from them last week. On their new proposal to build out their 00:08:28.756 --> 00:08:36.518 - life sciences program. We've been working with them. We've been in collaboration with them. I suspect 00:08:36.518 --> 00:08:44.357 - that once it's all done and they figure out the programming, our dual credit programming will be what? 00:08:44.357 --> 00:08:48.542 - It's always good when resources collaborate instead of 00:08:49.826 --> 00:08:56.445 - in their own corners. Yeah, absolutely. Bring to that point quickly. You guys work with RBB MCC on a 00:08:56.445 --> 00:09:03.260 - consistent basis. We're educating, aren't we? While we're finishing the education. Absolutely. Our dual 00:09:03.260 --> 00:09:09.879 - credit programming, which is our high school programming. So across the state, we have about 200,000 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:15.646 - students at Ivy Tech across the state. About 100,000 of those are high school students. 00:09:15.746 --> 00:09:24.270 - I mean, the number is basically 50-50. Our campus is very similar to that. And it's our whole region. 00:09:24.270 --> 00:09:32.878 - So we service the whole region. But Monroe County is obviously a big part of that. So what I'm looking 00:09:32.878 --> 00:09:41.653 - for is a motion that authorizes me to execute these documents on behalf of the Redevelopment Commission. 00:09:41.653 --> 00:09:45.246 - I'll make that motion that we give Richard 00:09:45.346 --> 00:09:53.087 - Martin, the president, the ability to sign any necessary legal documents in order to transfer the property 00:09:53.087 --> 00:10:00.683 - to Ivy Tech and finish. Jeff, you want to read the bill? Commissioner Martin? Yes. Commissioner Cassidy? 00:10:00.683 --> 00:10:08.062 - Yes. Commissioner Kiesling? Commissioner Jones? Yes. Motion is approved, four to zero. All right, you 00:10:08.062 --> 00:10:13.054 - just forward the documents to me and I'll put my John Henry on them. 00:10:13.282 --> 00:10:18.603 - when you're ready. Thank you all very much, and thanks for your support years ago. Yeah, it's been a 00:10:18.603 --> 00:10:23.976 - long time. I really appreciate it. I was going through them all pictures. I was thinking, Joyce Polin 00:10:23.976 --> 00:10:29.508 - and I were both very much involved with some of that. Yes, and Joyce works out of that building. I know. 00:10:29.508 --> 00:10:34.776 - She did. I was standby, but she worked on it. This is the second structure we've now turned over to 00:10:34.776 --> 00:10:37.726 - Ivy Tech. That's right. Yeah, it's a good thing, David. 00:10:38.210 --> 00:10:43.643 - And that's one of those things you look forward to trying to do something additionally in the campus, 00:10:43.643 --> 00:10:49.076 - always taking consideration. We're here to help. I appreciate it. Really do. And I think I would just 00:10:49.076 --> 00:10:54.615 - mention, because we mentioned this last month, is that the Westside TIF district ends in about a little 00:10:54.615 --> 00:11:00.154 - over a decade, 13 years. So if you are interested in bringing in another project to the RDC, I wouldn't 00:11:00.154 --> 00:11:05.534 - wait. Because if it involves any kind of debt, it probably needs to be done in the next year or two. 00:11:06.082 --> 00:11:16.489 - Thank you. Well, thank you. We have enough time to collect the money. Thank you so much. Thank you. 00:11:16.489 --> 00:11:27.312 - Thank you. Thank you. Okay Next item discussion on the annual spending report. I've seen something like 00:11:27.312 --> 00:11:35.742 - this before. Should have seen a few of them. Um I think it was two years ago. We 00:11:36.290 --> 00:11:44.240 - that we had in the past. I think I've tried to every year we make little additions or things like that, 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:52.113 - so I tried to incorporate all everything that we've always done this year. The intent is to. Show from 00:11:52.113 --> 00:12:00.368 - show the state looking at all our tiff districts. What what we're doing and what kind of impact financially 00:12:00.368 --> 00:12:05.566 - that has. This one is similar to last year. It begins with our bond 00:12:05.666 --> 00:12:13.493 - Um, we either, they all come from the annual report. I put the asterisks by the state road 46 in the 00:12:13.493 --> 00:12:21.242 - Fullerton Pike major bridge because the Florida pike is limited to half of what we received. So the 00:12:21.242 --> 00:12:29.223 - asterisk is that's from the annual report. If we don't receive that much, or if we don't receive twice 00:12:29.223 --> 00:12:33.950 - that much clue, that'll be lower. Um, and the second one is. 00:12:34.178 --> 00:12:40.509 - the state road 46 corridor again. And this is a repeat from the last couple years as well, although 00:12:40.509 --> 00:12:46.966 - this time we've been told it's really going to happen that next year that they currently have all the 00:12:46.966 --> 00:12:53.550 - permits they need. They're going to begin doing the tree work once they are allowed to with the Indiana 00:12:53.550 --> 00:13:00.134 - bat. And so that project will get going. If you look later in the report, we still have over $4 million 00:13:00.134 --> 00:13:03.806 - in that bond to support their completion of that project. 00:13:04.642 --> 00:13:12.606 - I don't know if that's enough anymore or not, but that is a question that I think Mr. Kreider has to 00:13:12.606 --> 00:13:20.492 - answer, and he has to figure out how to either pay the difference. And if you guys feel like it, he 00:13:20.492 --> 00:13:28.062 - could come in and make a request, and we can look the bond council to see what our options are. 00:13:28.674 --> 00:13:38.120 - I'm not aware of a huge, and maybe I need to review a huge increase in the amount we're collecting out 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:47.565 - there yet. So I'm not sure if there's a viable alternative out there anyway. When we issued that bond, 00:13:47.565 --> 00:13:54.718 - the revenue was pretty much going to all be used to pay for what we had done. 00:13:55.650 --> 00:14:03.116 - that we were planning on giving $270,000 to RBB. I did put a note in there that $376,600 is what we 00:14:03.116 --> 00:14:10.581 - owe left on the contract. I think next year would be a $270,000 payment unless we decide at the end 00:14:10.581 --> 00:14:18.122 - to do that final payment in December as opposed to waiting for the next year. So in which case, that 00:14:18.122 --> 00:14:24.766 - number would then just be in next year's report that says we're going to pay in January. 00:14:25.378 --> 00:14:33.115 - Um, the, uh, the Montreal for the curry profile. Is that the total that's due to them now, or you still 00:14:33.115 --> 00:14:40.554 - going to pay them a pittance each year to keep going? That reflects the total because I don't know. 00:14:40.554 --> 00:14:48.291 - I don't know what the plan is. So we definitely are going to put the maximum so that we make sure that. 00:14:48.291 --> 00:14:55.358 - I've heard any way it goes. Cause if they, if they ask for it tomorrow, we'd be able to do it. 00:14:55.906 --> 00:15:04.423 - Well, I guess maybe an update. When I've talked to the current bondholders, of course, they want to 00:15:04.423 --> 00:15:13.109 - be paid, but they understand what's going on. And they asked that we talk to the new owner of the GE, 00:15:13.109 --> 00:15:19.582 - Simtra, to see if they have any. So I have reached out to Simtra to kind of 00:15:19.778 --> 00:15:27.333 - them know that that question's out there and if they have any thoughts that we would love to hear from 00:15:27.333 --> 00:15:35.036 - them. I know that they're, I actually toured the building like a month ago, both their current and their 00:15:35.036 --> 00:15:42.371 - next, they do have a grand opening of or a ribbon cutting for something next month for the, I think 00:15:42.371 --> 00:15:48.606 - the building H is what they call it. But it's, they've done a lot of work out there. 00:15:48.898 --> 00:15:59.976 - So it's kind of exciting. All right. And then the other thing that was requested last year, let me see 00:15:59.976 --> 00:16:10.839 - if I could find it, was the, I added that for the fire truck, the $498,991, that that represents the 00:16:10.839 --> 00:16:16.862 - year three of a five year commitment. So that'll be on, 00:16:17.474 --> 00:16:24.328 - the schedule for the next two years. Based upon what you're seeing, what we're seeing from a revenue 00:16:24.328 --> 00:16:31.182 - collection, our revenues offset this overall. Yes, I mean, our Westside TIF district's doing well. I 00:16:31.182 --> 00:16:38.036 - think where our cash balance is starting to grow, I didn't pull that number before, but I think Lisa 00:16:38.036 --> 00:16:42.718 - has a good feeling for it. I think the Curry Pike is really the last 00:16:44.322 --> 00:16:51.030 - major major project or at least the next major project that she really feels has to be done and then 00:16:51.030 --> 00:16:57.671 - I think we'll see what she wants what she thinks after that but I think that's after that it's much 00:16:57.671 --> 00:17:04.512 - more going to be how do we react to things much like the heart straight connector was on our plans for 00:17:04.512 --> 00:17:11.552 - a long time and then we had a project that came through that says hey we should really do this. So that's 00:17:11.552 --> 00:17:14.142 - the report it's due by December 1st to 00:17:15.138 --> 00:17:21.826 - the state. If you guys are not sure, we approved it in October, because a lot of people don't necessarily 00:17:21.826 --> 00:17:28.388 - want to come in for a Thanksgiving meeting. But I'll be here, so it's okay. Okay, so you need a motion? 00:17:28.388 --> 00:17:35.075 - If you want me to go ahead and approve, if you guys want to approve it, I will go ahead and get it filed. 00:17:35.075 --> 00:17:41.385 - Well, the only thing I would ask if reflected as we put the meeting minutes out for next time, that 00:17:41.385 --> 00:17:44.350 - we would include what that overall balance is. 00:17:44.994 --> 00:17:51.558 - if we could. For the west side? For the west side TIFF, so anybody looking for your... We would put 00:17:51.558 --> 00:17:58.187 - in our minutes for that, that we would approve next time for the cash balance of what we have in the 00:17:58.187 --> 00:18:04.948 - west side TIFF. Okay, good idea. So if there's any... I didn't hear all of you said that's why. Do you 00:18:04.948 --> 00:18:11.577 - have it? Do you want today's cash balance? I think letting them know what today's cash balance is... 00:18:11.577 --> 00:18:14.334 - Yeah, that clears things and no question. 00:18:31.458 --> 00:18:45.681 - Thank you. That doesn't include what we're going to spend today, does it? No, I think it probably does 00:18:45.681 --> 00:19:00.318 - include today's. Did you already pay that? We're going to spend another $100,000 today. That's been paid. 00:19:06.338 --> 00:19:16.956 - It says it's paid October 27th. So it's probably not included in your number there. Yeah, it wouldn't 00:19:16.956 --> 00:19:27.783 - be included until tomorrow because if I... Right. Okay. All right. That it reflects... When is the next 00:19:27.783 --> 00:19:35.486 - settlement date? Settlement? Settlement will occur in middle of December. 00:19:36.034 --> 00:19:54.839 - And so rough numbers, I think you're going to see $800 to $1 million be put into that account. All right. 00:19:54.839 --> 00:20:01.758 - Yeah, I think I'm OK with this report. 00:20:08.418 --> 00:20:15.831 - It's just a budget kind of item anyway. They're not going to hold us to it. One question I do have that 00:20:15.831 --> 00:20:23.315 - Richard just brings to that point, based upon what I read in regards to how you put it, we have complete 00:20:23.315 --> 00:20:30.585 - flexibility if something comes up. Yes. And that way we have, if dollars are available or if projects 00:20:30.585 --> 00:20:32.510 - are necessary, the way you 00:20:32.706 --> 00:20:39.792 - you worded it in that as far as our capital expenditures. I don't want to take all the credit for that 00:20:39.792 --> 00:20:47.015 - but it's the way the bond council put it in there to make sure we have enough flexibility to do whatever 00:20:47.015 --> 00:20:54.101 - we need was important. We have certain obligations and beyond those obligations we're pretty much free 00:20:54.101 --> 00:21:00.981 - to exercise our discretion. Right. Okay so Randy you want to make a motion? Yeah I'll make a motion 00:21:00.981 --> 00:21:02.494 - to approve resolution 00:21:03.138 --> 00:21:10.361 - resolution. I'll make a motion to approve the Monroe County annual spending plan for the Redevelopment 00:21:10.361 --> 00:21:17.374 - Commission. Please call the roll. Commissioner Martin? Yes. Commissioner Cassidy? Yes. Commissioner 00:21:17.374 --> 00:21:22.494 - Kiesling? Yes. Commissioner Jones? Yes. Motion is approved four to zero. 00:21:39.970 --> 00:21:49.393 - minutes. We have a large minute packet because we had a very successful meeting last month over at the 00:21:49.393 --> 00:21:58.542 - Ellisville RBB administration building. The minutes I think are correct and we have a presentation, 00:21:58.542 --> 00:22:08.606 - a copy of the presentation that they gave and there were quite a few questions during the discussion of those 00:22:09.058 --> 00:22:16.155 - of that presentation. But I think everything was, I didn't see anything that I thought was incorrect. 00:22:16.155 --> 00:22:23.113 - Does anybody have any corrections or additions? I think so. I couldn't read them because I couldn't 00:22:23.113 --> 00:22:30.141 - download them at the time. So I presume what you read Richard is correct. And you got my name on it. 00:22:30.141 --> 00:22:34.942 - It wasn't on there originally. I know very much so that I was there. 00:22:40.258 --> 00:22:49.390 - What I enjoyed most was seeing all the football players coming in and getting ready to practice. There's 00:22:49.390 --> 00:22:58.173 - some stout boys over there. I move that we approve the minutes of our meeting of September 16, 2026. 00:22:58.173 --> 00:23:07.131 - We have a second. Second. Mike seconds. Roll the roll. Commissioner Martin? Yes. Commissioner Cassidy? 00:23:07.131 --> 00:23:09.566 - Yes. Commissioner Kiesling? 00:23:09.698 --> 00:23:26.916 - Commissioner Jones. Yes. Motion is approved, four to zero. Okay, claims. Oh, man, I don't know what 00:23:26.916 --> 00:23:39.486 - has hit me. Push my button, or A button. Okay. Just don't give it to us. 00:23:39.938 --> 00:23:53.248 - Approval claims. We have claims this month. We have for DC Construction Services, this is work on Curry 00:23:53.248 --> 00:24:06.558 - Pike in the amount of $100,154.19. And we have two claims from Financial Solutions Group for two of our 00:24:13.794 --> 00:24:25.343 - These are kind of a report. I was trying to find out which. They're arbitrage reports. It's FGC invoices. 00:24:25.343 --> 00:24:36.455 - It's a pretty minor discrepancy here, but on the actual voucher, it says 100, 154.69. On this one, it 00:24:36.455 --> 00:24:43.646 - says 100, 154.19. We should probably go with what's on the claim. 00:24:46.626 --> 00:24:56.326 - Oh, I see what you mean. I didn't see that. What is it, Mr. Cockrell? I'm looking at the actual claim. 00:24:56.326 --> 00:25:01.694 - It's 69 cents is what is on all the other documentation. 00:25:14.914 --> 00:25:27.934 - Adam up 150, I know for 150. Where are you reading this? What are you looking at? Oh, it's the difference 00:25:27.934 --> 00:25:40.462 - in here in the accounts payable voucher, 59 to 69. Let's just clear up and verify. Mr. Carpenter gave 00:25:40.462 --> 00:25:44.638 - us a claim, a comment that didn't 00:25:44.834 --> 00:25:57.970 - Didn't say 69. It says 19 cents. Actually, it's 69 cents. 69 cents. So I move that we approve that claim. 00:25:57.970 --> 00:26:10.238 - Yes, Mike. The voucher says 69. Mm-hm. 69, right? So I guess the question is, what check got paid? 00:26:15.746 --> 00:26:24.460 - you'll know tomorrow. Good idea. So it'll be paid and it'll reflect the actual amount that needs to 00:26:24.460 --> 00:26:33.522 - be on the 69. Okay. Well, we should approve this at the 69 cents and just say, or less. All right. I'll 00:26:33.522 --> 00:26:42.323 - go with that. Okay. All right. And then the other two, one is for the 20, that's what I want to look 00:26:42.323 --> 00:26:44.414 - at, one was for the 20, 00:26:44.642 --> 00:26:53.941 - 15 bond, and the other was for the 2020 bond. Yeah, the 2020 bond and the 2015 bond. OK. Do I have any 00:26:53.941 --> 00:27:03.059 - questions other than the one we just resolved? All right. Can I have a motion to approve the claims? 00:27:03.059 --> 00:27:12.990 - I move we approve these claims. Second. Did you want me to say the amount? I'm assuming it's for $101,654.69. 00:27:13.090 --> 00:27:26.313 - So we have a motion to approve the claims, the amount for DC construction services of $100,000, $154.69 00:27:26.313 --> 00:27:39.281 - or less, and to financial solutions group for $1,500, for a total of $101,654.69 or less. Please call 00:27:39.281 --> 00:27:42.078 - the roll. Mr. Martin. 00:27:42.274 --> 00:27:52.610 - Yes. Commissioner Cassidy? Yes. Commissioner Kiesling? Yes. Commissioner Jones? Yes. Motion is approved, 00:27:52.610 --> 00:28:02.946 - four to zero. All right. I don't know if you can answer this question. I went ahead on the claims. There 00:28:02.946 --> 00:28:11.806 - is this credit that we got that looks like it was some kind of, it says emergency repair. 00:28:12.930 --> 00:28:22.599 - So that was not part of the project itself, which is why we got a deduction for it? Or was that an error 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:32.636 - during the project that had to get paid for? Or do we know it? Lisa's not here, so I can't ask the question. 00:28:32.636 --> 00:28:38.622 - I'll take the credit. I just was wondering what it might be for. 00:28:47.682 --> 00:28:57.191 - I don't know off the top of my head what it was for. All right. Now, she had indicated also that there 00:28:57.191 --> 00:29:06.700 - was going to be money left over. But when I look at this voucher, I don't see any money left over. But 00:29:06.700 --> 00:29:16.394 - it does say something about the signal. And I know that she was going to try and include something about 00:29:16.394 --> 00:29:17.502 - the signal. 00:29:20.930 --> 00:29:33.488 - I guess we can leave these open questions until she's available. Yes, I think she could answer those 00:29:33.488 --> 00:29:46.295 - questions and I am unable to. Just ask her next month meeting. Yep. I mean, the way I read the comment 00:29:46.295 --> 00:29:50.398 - here is that I think we may have 00:29:52.802 --> 00:30:05.096 - that's what it looks like is that it is. A reduction of the cost of the signal construction and from 00:30:05.096 --> 00:30:17.633 - an invoice. 4575. From July 6 26. So my guess is they during the audit process, they caught something. 00:30:17.633 --> 00:30:21.406 - I found something that was not 00:30:22.338 --> 00:30:28.987 - It was an emergency. This state with the states, it's an emergency repair, so I'm wondering if something 00:30:28.987 --> 00:30:35.447 - happened. Well, let's say we'll ask Lisa and then we'll get a very specific answer in regards to what 00:30:35.447 --> 00:30:41.906 - it was. But as it is, we got a credit against things we don't. We don't see where we're going to have 00:30:41.906 --> 00:30:48.429 - significant budgets from a number standpoint, but highway director. It looks like it says reattach the 00:30:48.429 --> 00:30:49.822 - signal head and sign. 00:30:50.018 --> 00:30:56.241 - like something fell down or came apart and they had to go fix it and then they just included it in that 00:30:56.241 --> 00:31:02.285 - particular project as opposed to on the general maintenance she said no you broke it you fix it fair 00:31:02.285 --> 00:31:08.509 - i'm assuming that's what the or that wasn't the project cost of this one and it was a project cost that 00:31:08.509 --> 00:31:14.014 - should have became out of a different fund it yeah okay all right uh any staff comment jeff 00:31:15.490 --> 00:31:22.339 - I just would say that we've had a nice couple months with the RBB presentation and then talking with 00:31:22.339 --> 00:31:29.255 - Ivy Tech tonight. I think those are both great things. I guess my one question to you guys is I think 00:31:29.255 --> 00:31:36.172 - Lisa has indicated that she doesn't think they necessarily have any business for November. So I guess 00:31:36.172 --> 00:31:42.953 - be prepared for an email the week before the November meeting that says, hey, I don't think we have 00:31:42.953 --> 00:31:43.902 - any business. 00:31:44.066 --> 00:31:52.958 - Do we want to just put it off till December? What is our scheduled date for that? It's going to be the... 00:31:52.958 --> 00:32:01.681 - I think it'd be the 18th, would be the RDC meeting day. That month? 18th. It's on to November? November 00:32:01.681 --> 00:32:10.573 - 18th as well. November 18th is when our next meeting will be. But I don't have my calendar here. I think. 00:32:10.573 --> 00:32:12.670 - Okay, we'll assess that. 00:32:13.058 --> 00:32:19.525 - when we get closer and if we don't have anything to do, we don't need to meet. Oh, it's worth, 00:32:19.525 --> 00:32:26.605 - I plan to be, I'm going to be in Seattle on that date, so. Okay. Well, enjoy. What's that? Enjoy. Yeah, 00:32:26.605 --> 00:32:33.549 - we're going to the IU Washington games. Oh, nice. That will be good. And the December meeting will be 00:32:33.549 --> 00:32:40.357 - on the 16th, right? I didn't hear you. December 16th. What about December 16th? That's our December 00:32:40.357 --> 00:32:41.310 - meeting date. 00:32:49.986 --> 00:32:57.025 - before the end of the year, we'll probably, or end of the year, first of the year, we'll have some discussion 00:32:57.025 --> 00:33:03.424 - with Mr. Kreider and kind of get an update of a schedule. I mean, I can invite him to... Well, they 00:33:03.424 --> 00:33:09.951 - should be able to start work in two weeks, right? Mm-hmm. Well, I don't know the exact date, but yes, 00:33:09.951 --> 00:33:17.118 - soon. It's sometime in November. Okay. Just asking for an update on, yeah, just trying to get an idea of public 00:33:17.378 --> 00:33:27.851 - Want to say it was August I got the last update and it was once that they had everything and once the 00:33:27.851 --> 00:33:38.324 - Indiana bat Season ended or began however you want to look at it That's when they were going to start 00:33:38.324 --> 00:33:46.846 - clearing for construction next summer I Would be very interested to know before we 00:33:47.042 --> 00:33:57.681 - Commence that project exactly what the construction specification is What they're going to do and what 00:33:57.681 --> 00:34:08.011 - they're not going to do Because we've talked about so many things over the last couple of years And 00:34:08.011 --> 00:34:16.894 - it's not really clear to me exactly What outcome we're going to achieve Herbs gutters 00:34:17.890 --> 00:34:24.549 - sidewalk. And I think Lisa can answer that question. Right. If not Lisa, then I think someone from planning 00:34:24.549 --> 00:34:30.777 - knows the answer to that question. Because those plans have already been through, submitted, looking 00:34:30.777 --> 00:34:37.067 - for permits. My understanding is it's supposed to have full permit. Curbs, gutters, side trails. Also 00:34:37.067 --> 00:34:43.295 - utility issues too. What's happening with the water line? Who's dealing with that? Where is it going 00:34:43.295 --> 00:34:46.686 - to go? There's electric in there too. There's probably 00:34:48.450 --> 00:34:54.898 - have a high speed cable in there now somewhere. What's happening with all that stuff and. Who's paying 00:34:54.898 --> 00:35:01.346 - to have it moved if it needs to get moved or who's you know, fine. I'm not sure that there is anything 00:35:01.346 --> 00:35:07.669 - for most of that, because right now it's. It's fairly gravel. I do know that when we we went when we 00:35:07.669 --> 00:35:14.242 - had discussions years ago now, you know, it almost feels like it might have been around COVID when COVID 00:35:14.242 --> 00:35:17.310 - hit. The big question was forced main for sewer. 00:35:17.762 --> 00:35:24.311 - from that. And so I don't want to end up in a situation where we go ahead and we spend a lot of money 00:35:24.311 --> 00:35:31.117 - and put in a roadway. And then two years from now, we got to tear it all up to put in new infrastructure. 00:35:31.117 --> 00:35:37.666 - That's not a suitable satisfactory situation. And I'm sure we've discussed all that. But with so long 00:35:37.666 --> 00:35:44.086 - ago, I can't answer the question. So we can have that. That's why I want to make sure we get things 00:35:44.086 --> 00:35:46.462 - presented so we know what goes back. 00:35:46.722 --> 00:35:53.837 - And if the plans are there, then we know what should be done. We just need to get a verification from 00:35:53.837 --> 00:36:00.883 - our highway director where things are. I don't want to be building future expenses, particularly for 00:36:00.883 --> 00:36:08.277 - an area that has limited resources coming in for the foreseeable future. And I guess from my perspective, 00:36:08.277 --> 00:36:14.974 - at some point in the future, there should be a fairly robust park out there. We would think so. 00:36:16.738 --> 00:36:24.185 - We would think so. It's not quite clear how all that might happen or when, or if any of it's going to 00:36:24.185 --> 00:36:31.705 - happen. I mean, I was part of the original negotiations for the PUD out there and all the grand plans. 00:36:31.705 --> 00:36:39.079 - Hey, that sounded great. However, things didn't quite work out that way. And to that point, Richard, 00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:46.526 - exactly. The plans were set out for a lot of things, but there's been a lot of changes that occurred. 00:36:47.234 --> 00:36:54.592 - Quite frankly, we need additional employment to help make those things occur in our community. But at 00:36:54.592 --> 00:37:01.950 - this point, that will be a big park. OK. Mike, anything? No. Dearest? I don't think so right now. OK. 00:37:01.950 --> 00:37:09.524 - Randy? I'm good. Just want to appreciate everything you're doing, Jeff, and put things together to bring 00:37:09.524 --> 00:37:14.718 - this Ivy Tech thing to a conclusion after approximately 18 to 20 years. 00:37:15.170 --> 00:37:23.055 - People don't think about how quickly that time goes until the paperwork needs to be done. You're doing 00:37:23.055 --> 00:37:30.863 - a great job. I wanted to give you a report. I've done a little more work on the residential TIF idea. 00:37:30.863 --> 00:37:38.671 - I was going to ask you about that. I've had some good exchanges with Jackie at County Planning. She's 00:37:38.671 --> 00:37:44.030 - got a SPIA intern who is very interested in the project and the idea. 00:37:44.130 --> 00:37:51.041 - interested in participating in any meeting where we might do some discussions of it and is willing to 00:37:51.041 --> 00:37:57.953 - engage in doing some homework if we can figure out exactly what homework to do. I think we're getting 00:37:57.953 --> 00:38:04.932 - closer to that. Randy and I are going to get together and try and draw some lines on a map of possible 00:38:04.932 --> 00:38:12.318 - areas. Planning and the assessor are willing to work in establishing values and trends and values over time. 00:38:12.482 --> 00:38:20.936 - which is information we would need. I mean, people talk about, when I talk with people, they're interested 00:38:20.936 --> 00:38:28.837 - in it, but it's not quite clear what needs to be specified yet. So we're probably going to pick out 00:38:28.837 --> 00:38:36.737 - blocks of areas and say let's look at this block and then this block and then this block and can we 00:38:36.737 --> 00:38:42.110 - put those two together and how are we going to keep track of things 00:38:43.138 --> 00:38:50.935 - If we have a 25-year horizon on any kind of bonding, what might be reasonably expect to accomplish in 00:38:50.935 --> 00:38:58.961 - that period of time? There's still a lot of open issues, but I think we're beginning to get to the point 00:38:58.961 --> 00:39:06.834 - where we might have something where we can have some fruitful discussion in the, yet certainly towards 00:39:06.834 --> 00:39:11.038 - the end of this year or at the beginning of next year. 00:39:11.586 --> 00:39:22.471 - terms of what we might actually be able to do work on that project okay we have anybody online who has 00:39:22.471 --> 00:39:33.462 - any questions comments interrogatives of any kind seeing none I think we are ready to adjourn if I have 00:39:33.462 --> 00:39:40.542 - a motion to do so Richard thank you for doing that research on the 00:39:40.674 --> 00:39:51.872 - I appreciate that, because I can't do that right now. I know it interests you, but it's still work. 00:39:51.872 --> 00:40:03.071 - Jackie did a good job of outlining where development has occurred, what little has occurred, in the 00:40:03.071 --> 00:40:09.790 - areas that we've been looking at. And that's the big thing. 00:40:10.082 --> 00:40:18.188 - Now, what works in our favor is that the evaluation of the properties of some of those areas is going 00:40:18.188 --> 00:40:26.373 - up at a pretty good clip. So if we can start capturing some of that, that's the hope we've got is that 00:40:26.373 --> 00:40:34.637 - we can then capture some of that and do some good in terms of enabling residential development in those 00:40:34.637 --> 00:40:39.326 - areas at a moderate price rather than the McMansion price. 00:40:40.898 --> 00:40:50.639 - Okay. I move that we adjourn. We have a motion to adjourn and a second and a second. We are adjourned. 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.854 - My next meeting is November 18th.