WEBVTT 00:00:00.450 --> 00:00:08.805 - I would like to call to order the Wednesday, May 27th, 2026 meeting of the Monroe County Stormwater 00:00:08.805 --> 00:00:17.243 - Management Board. So I would like to note for the record that Surveyor Tron and Ray Randolph is here 00:00:17.243 --> 00:00:25.682 - in the room and Commissioner Thomas is here and myself, Commissioner Madeira. Also, we have a number 00:00:25.682 --> 00:00:28.606 - of items of business to attend to. 00:00:28.706 --> 00:00:38.048 - First order of business is public input for items not on the agenda. Would anyone in the NACU Hill Room 00:00:38.048 --> 00:00:47.480 - like to come forward and give public comment? Would anyone online on Teams like to offer public comment? 00:00:47.480 --> 00:00:54.846 - Just raise your hand and we will allow you to speak. Seeing none, I will move on. 00:00:56.450 --> 00:01:04.913 - To the next item, approval of minutes for March 25th, 2026. I move approval. Second. Are there 00:01:04.913 --> 00:01:13.999 - any corrections, changes? All right. Then all approving, I would like to call a vote for that motion. 00:01:13.999 --> 00:01:23.352 - All in support of approving the minutes for March 25th, 2026, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. That motion passes 00:01:23.352 --> 00:01:24.510 - unanimously. 00:01:25.250 --> 00:01:33.894 - Next item of business is the stormwater expenditure report for December 2025, and that's January, February, 00:01:33.894 --> 00:01:42.137 - March, and April of 2026 as well. Good afternoon. In December, we had the grade all repaired. That was 00:01:42.137 --> 00:01:50.380 - over $21,000. We had traffic control. That was over $12,000. And televised the pipe, and that was over 00:01:50.380 --> 00:01:53.982 - $21,000, and those are the big expenditures. 00:01:55.330 --> 00:02:05.548 - Excellent. And a couple of quick questions. I think all that really is is maybe some clarification of 00:02:05.548 --> 00:02:15.966 - how to interpret that. Let me bring up my online. Let me bring up my highlights. But sorry. So on fleet 00:02:15.966 --> 00:02:25.182 - maintenance, look at the beginning appropriation, it's 80,000 expenditures 21. Then we have 00:02:25.634 --> 00:02:34.774 - total appropriation 80,000, and then appropriation balance at 13,000? I guess I'm just, and I might 00:02:34.774 --> 00:02:44.280 - have this wrong, I'm looking at expenditures, total appropriation, seeing that, and 21 minus the 80,000 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:53.512 - wouldn't be 13. Am I looking at it incorrectly? That's for the year, this end of the year. So that's 00:02:53.512 --> 00:02:55.614 - just this month, okay. 00:02:55.938 --> 00:03:04.480 - Yeah, the expenditure column is just for that month. And then the balance shows what's left for the 00:03:04.480 --> 00:03:13.107 - day. OK. That makes sense. Sorry, we haven't went over this since December. So I was just wanting to 00:03:13.107 --> 00:03:21.819 - make sure I was tracking along. Thank you for the clarification. And I forgot to say that Stipp Road, 00:03:21.819 --> 00:03:24.894 - we paid out over $1,000,050,452.37. 00:03:25.122 --> 00:03:41.306 - And South Shore, $109,481. In January, we had backfill. The bridge crew did over $18,000. And then South 00:03:41.306 --> 00:03:53.790 - Shore, we paid out $5,497.79. And those were the two big expenditures. February. 00:03:54.306 --> 00:04:10.746 - We had the bridge crew used backfill and $9,846.76. Traffic control was $7,546.54. We had other insurance, 00:04:10.746 --> 00:04:22.270 - which is not health, for $92,787. And then Stipp Road, we had $302,842.05. 00:04:25.538 --> 00:04:37.007 - And then for March, we had the bridge crew for backfill and pavement, $22,428.02. And then we also had 00:04:37.007 --> 00:04:48.476 - this another payment for Stipro for $10,678.89. And then for, sorry. Just on February, just that's our 00:04:48.476 --> 00:04:53.598 - one insurance payment of the year, the 92787. 00:04:53.890 --> 00:05:02.167 - for auto insurance. And then we had to adjust and transfer 10,007, and that was just because we attempted 00:05:02.167 --> 00:05:10.132 - to budget exactly, and it just came over, I guess. Yeah, it went up a 10,000, so we budgeted an extra 00:05:10.132 --> 00:05:18.019 - 10, and then it went up another almost 11,000, but now we're getting a refund. Oh, so we'll see some 00:05:18.019 --> 00:05:22.782 - come back. And does that refund come directly to Stormwater? 00:05:23.490 --> 00:05:30.124 - Yeah, so actually I just reached out to Angie on this. So we get our estimates from the commissioner's 00:05:30.124 --> 00:05:36.564 - office for our insurance. Everybody had an increase once we got the final bill in the spring, so we 00:05:36.564 --> 00:05:43.262 - went in for additionals. Then we turned around last week and was told that we had some credits actually 00:05:43.262 --> 00:05:48.414 - coming back. I asked, reach out to Angie, the credits are from the year before, 00:05:48.546 --> 00:05:55.101 - but they don't put that into your premium amount of what they estimate that will be so that we will 00:05:55.101 --> 00:06:02.050 - know exactly what our premium costs are. So they don't want to mingle the two, but the credit is actually 00:06:02.050 --> 00:06:08.736 - for last year's items. So that's why we're receiving a credit after we went through and did transfers 00:06:08.736 --> 00:06:15.029 - and such, just so we know exactly what we're paying for a premium and not depend on the credit. 00:06:15.029 --> 00:06:18.110 - And then, you know, my colleagues may not want 00:06:18.242 --> 00:06:24.065 - additional information, but I was curious if you could maybe send me something just to kind of see what 00:06:24.065 --> 00:06:29.720 - that insurance is covering. And I can kind of look at it behind the scenes instead of trying to drag 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:35.543 - it out at the meeting today, just to get a better equipment. And yeah, just kind of what the more broad 00:06:35.543 --> 00:06:39.294 - umbrella insurance is covering for that information in our office. 00:06:39.490 --> 00:06:45.401 - Yeah, we just submit all of that to the commissioner's office, and then they do all the insurance 00:06:45.401 --> 00:06:51.675 - negotiations. That's fine. I would like to formally request seeing that, since it's part of our budget. 00:06:51.675 --> 00:06:57.466 - Please ask Angie for anything you need. All right. Great. Any further questions? No, that's it. 00:06:57.466 --> 00:07:03.317 - All right. Then that brings us on. I got one more. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, no, no, 00:07:03.317 --> 00:07:05.790 - that's fine. This is actually it. April. 00:07:06.210 --> 00:07:15.031 - Bridge crew and backfill did fifty three thousand five hundred and fifty two dollars and seventy three 00:07:15.031 --> 00:07:24.023 - cents Traffic control was nine thousand two eighty seventy eight The Public education was forty thousand 00:07:24.023 --> 00:07:33.016 - six eighty five oh seven that included the five thousand for summer interns and the thirty five thousand 00:07:33.016 --> 00:07:34.814 - for the MOU And what 00:07:36.674 --> 00:07:46.653 - We put the $5,000 to the SWCD for their summer staff. Yeah, summer interns. Oh. Our summer interns are 00:07:46.653 --> 00:07:56.341 - covered under our part-time line. Got you. That's separate. Just to make sure it's clear. OK. Maybe 00:07:56.341 --> 00:08:04.286 - how much did we pay for the MOU request? $35,000. $35,000. That's what that came. 00:08:05.858 --> 00:08:13.558 - that what we anticipated because I for some reason I thought okay we were the request for qualifications 00:08:13.558 --> 00:08:20.964 - were posted I'll have to refer back what happens when we don't but for some reason I thought we were 00:08:20.964 --> 00:08:28.884 - at like a 12,000 not to exceed for us for qualifications being prepared yes the MOU that's the disbursement 00:08:28.884 --> 00:08:32.990 - of that was for sorry which one are you looking at okay 00:08:33.218 --> 00:08:40.344 - Never mind. There's two different MOUs, so we're talking about the mini-grant with SWCD. I'm completely 00:08:40.344 --> 00:08:47.195 - okay. We've moved forward with the memorandum of understanding for qualifications for the long-term 00:08:47.195 --> 00:08:54.116 - capital improvement plan. That's part of a contract, so it's separate, yeah. We dealt with the SWCD, 00:08:54.116 --> 00:09:01.310 - so that was off my radar, so when you said memorandum of understanding, the acronym is not coming to me. 00:09:02.594 --> 00:09:12.337 - That's what I thought of. So when I heard 35, I was just wanting to clarify. Thank you. Any other questions 00:09:12.337 --> 00:09:21.538 - about the expenditure reports? No. Moving into business. So we do have a couple of change orders with 00:09:21.538 --> 00:09:25.598 - Redbud Heights Drainage Improvement Project. 00:09:26.850 --> 00:09:33.338 - The project has finished up. So this was the final change order just to account for all the the last 00:09:33.338 --> 00:09:39.891 - Minute items So the the remaining value that was part of that change order was nineteen thousand four 00:09:39.891 --> 00:09:46.379 - hundred thirty eight dollars and ninety cents and this has already been brought to the commissioners 00:09:46.379 --> 00:09:51.326 - for media approval so that we could get them all paid out in a timely manner 00:09:54.274 --> 00:10:02.143 - Questions about that? I think you still have to vote to approve it. Yes. Yes. My computer's dead, so 00:10:02.143 --> 00:10:10.401 - I'm not going to be able to make a motion. Yes. I move to approve the Redbud Heights drainage improvement 00:10:10.401 --> 00:10:18.191 - project change order. Any amount of $19,430. And I'm sorry. I want to make sure that I'm looking at 00:10:18.191 --> 00:10:24.190 - the correct amount here. I'm looking at the remaining CCD02 value remaining. 00:10:24.706 --> 00:10:34.447 - Yes. Is that the correct amount? Correct. Yes. Yes. OK. Any amount of $19,430.90? Yes. OK. I'll second. 00:10:34.447 --> 00:10:44.563 - All right. Sorry. I just wanted to make sure I was correct on the numbers. Any questions from my colleagues 00:10:44.563 --> 00:10:54.398 - up here? Any public comment in the room on the Redbud Heights drainage improvement project change order? 00:10:55.778 --> 00:11:03.317 - Any comments online on the Redbud Heights Drainage Improvement Project Change Order? Seeing no hands, 00:11:03.317 --> 00:11:10.930 - I will call the vote. All in favor of approving the Redbud Heights Drainage Improvement Project Change 00:11:10.930 --> 00:11:18.396 - Order, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes unanimously. Excellent. So our next item, so as part of 00:11:18.396 --> 00:11:23.422 - our cost share program with the SWCD, we do have Erica Meyers here. 00:11:24.130 --> 00:11:32.589 - You have any questions about it. There were a couple of individual project requests that wanted to go 00:11:32.589 --> 00:11:41.381 - above the normal amount. And so as part of our MOU with the SWCD that we just updated this past. Brewery. 00:11:41.381 --> 00:11:43.454 - Whatever that was. They. 00:11:43.842 --> 00:11:52.321 - the approval needs to come from both the SWCD board and the stormwater management board. So both of 00:11:52.321 --> 00:12:00.970 - these have been approved and recommended by the SWCD board. And so now it is your hands to approve or 00:12:00.970 --> 00:12:09.873 - ask questions as you. And so this first one, I separated them out so that we can vote on them separately 00:12:09.873 --> 00:12:12.926 - in the event that outcome for them. 00:12:13.186 --> 00:12:24.947 - So this first one, the issue, if I'm understanding correctly, there's a culvert that drains under the 00:12:24.947 --> 00:12:36.478 - road from the hillside into their field. And so this project would help direct that drainage into a 00:12:36.478 --> 00:12:43.166 - specific channel and help their pasture and their cattle. 00:12:44.642 --> 00:12:53.476 - impacting the direct flow into Bean Blossom. If you've had a chance to read through the application, 00:12:53.476 --> 00:13:02.573 - they have worked with NRCS on the design. The NRCS will be out there to evaluate it during construction 00:13:02.573 --> 00:13:11.407 - and after construction. Erica Myers will also go out and during and after construction. Did you want 00:13:11.407 --> 00:13:12.894 - to add anything? 00:13:13.314 --> 00:13:20.717 - Or if you have questions, Erica might be able to, other Erica might be able to answer them better. You 00:13:20.717 --> 00:13:28.120 - need to come up to the microphone, sorry. It was okay when you said no question, but then. Then I kept 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:35.308 - talking. I think you explained it really well, but yeah, if you have any additional questions, both 00:13:35.308 --> 00:13:43.070 - of the applications are for tiling for two separate purposes. So if you have questions, please let me know. 00:13:46.402 --> 00:13:54.006 - I guess this could be directed at either or. With the mini-grant program, are both of these projects, 00:13:54.006 --> 00:14:01.460 - well, okay, I'll separate them. This project, would that fall under, like, the accepted criteria to 00:14:01.460 --> 00:14:09.064 - go through the mini-grant? Like, I know that they're wanting more than what the max allows, but would 00:14:09.064 --> 00:14:14.878 - them from going through the mini-grant program that we already have in place? 00:14:15.202 --> 00:14:21.493 - Is there anything different? You mean like from a financial standpoint? From what they're asking, what 00:14:21.493 --> 00:14:27.662 - kind of repairs with the tiling, does that all fall within the mini-grant program? So let's say they 00:14:27.662 --> 00:14:33.770 - were just doing it at a smaller scale where they could do it under the threshold of what our max is 00:14:33.770 --> 00:14:38.718 - with the mini-grant, would this be allowed to go through the mini-grant program? 00:14:40.066 --> 00:14:47.343 - Yes, I believe I understand your question. Yeah. So the only difference here is they're wanting more 00:14:47.343 --> 00:14:54.909 - dollars towards it, which is an exception to the program that we have in place. I understand. Yes. These 00:14:54.909 --> 00:15:02.186 - are quite a bit higher than we're normally seeing bids for project-wise. Right. So thank you. I just 00:15:02.186 --> 00:15:06.942 - wanted to make that. I know I spoke with you earlier, and I think 00:15:07.074 --> 00:15:14.782 - The intention here is really great, but I'm just going to kind of read what I have here. This probably 00:15:14.782 --> 00:15:22.490 - be for both. When we were kind of going through this mini grant program back years ago that, you know, 00:15:22.490 --> 00:15:30.272 - it was really hard to get public transparency of people going through the mini grant. As far as I know, 00:15:30.272 --> 00:15:34.014 - that's not an issue, but I haven't really kind of 00:15:34.722 --> 00:15:44.526 - reviewed it that granularly to see if these names are still publicly available, because as being a rate 00:15:44.526 --> 00:15:54.048 - payer fund, I think it should be very transparent that people know where these dollars are going to. 00:15:54.048 --> 00:16:04.606 - So I understand that these redactions of the name and where the project's going is not SWCD. I understand that. 00:16:05.026 --> 00:16:13.091 - But I think this information needs to be public and should not be redacted. Maybe we don't put the documents 00:16:13.091 --> 00:16:20.786 - that must be redacted that are from the NRCS, which I'm not too sure if that's part of the requirement, 00:16:20.786 --> 00:16:28.851 - but I do know from previous discussion the USDA does require certain PI personal information to be redacted. 00:16:28.851 --> 00:16:32.254 - Totally understand that. But we could provide 00:16:33.346 --> 00:16:39.057 - other information that's not from that source that we're allowed to have transparent. During 00:16:39.057 --> 00:16:45.444 - these discussions years ago, we had our attorney Dave Schilling here saying that it was completely fine 00:16:45.444 --> 00:16:51.586 - to make that publicly available. And also, I think it's essential that this information is included 00:16:51.586 --> 00:16:57.973 - in any grant application that we can disclose the names or they shouldn't be going through the program. 00:16:57.973 --> 00:17:03.070 - We should, I know that we're giving it to SWCD, which is completely okay, but like 00:17:04.322 --> 00:17:10.528 - public should know who the end person is at a certain point and that that bothers me tremendously and 00:17:10.528 --> 00:17:16.612 - it was about a year and a half of effort of working with the mini grant so I could fully support it 00:17:16.612 --> 00:17:22.696 - and I have in a way where we've been able to increase the dollar amount bring in the intern and you 00:17:22.696 --> 00:17:26.590 - know I would still love to do that but without that transparent 00:17:26.818 --> 00:17:33.267 - I can't do it. And then furthermore, we need to establish a method to support more ratepayers while 00:17:33.267 --> 00:17:39.716 - remaining fair to all residents of Monroe County. And that's what I think the mini grant program is 00:17:39.716 --> 00:17:46.165 - all about. It creates these guidelines and it has these caps. So, you know, I'm gonna be respectful 00:17:46.165 --> 00:17:52.614 - for not mentioning the names, but it was easy for me to look at the project location, identify each 00:17:52.614 --> 00:17:55.774 - one of these people. Currently, we're looking at 00:17:56.930 --> 00:18:07.871 - Let me get to my notes, a request. Comment thing here. Speed it along a little bit, sorry. And I'm just 00:18:07.871 --> 00:18:18.391 - gonna say, this one currently is a licensed livestock dealer, meaning that their profits are passed 00:18:18.391 --> 00:18:22.494 - directly to the organization, company. 00:18:22.626 --> 00:18:29.561 - what I found online, it says individually family members, but that's fine if it's a family-owned business. 00:18:29.561 --> 00:18:36.366 - But it is a for-profit. The next one is a non-profit, which kind of makes me reconsider it just a little 00:18:36.366 --> 00:18:42.977 - bit. But back to my main point here, I appreciate the effort of trying to find resources to deal with 00:18:42.977 --> 00:18:49.653 - this, but how can we be fair with all of the rate payers for the next person that needs a more sizable 00:18:49.653 --> 00:18:50.366 - funding to 00:18:50.754 --> 00:18:57.153 - address their issues. And, you know, I really don't want to get in a situation where we're kind of picking 00:18:57.153 --> 00:19:03.312 - and choosing. We're both looking for a for-profit and a non-profit kind of request here. Sorry to lump 00:19:03.312 --> 00:19:09.292 - them in, but, you know, I don't want to repeat myself on the next one, so this is going to move it. 00:19:09.292 --> 00:19:15.392 - So, like, you know, also the other concern is, and this isn't directed at you, is the 2027 budget and 00:19:15.392 --> 00:19:19.518 - the unknowns. There's still really curious, and I know my colleagues 00:19:19.682 --> 00:19:25.400 - have kind of addressed this a little bit and they're welcome to again, but you know, with the potential 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:30.898 - of the reorganization with Richland Township, that's gonna start eating into their available funds. 00:19:30.898 --> 00:19:36.452 - It does also eat into the area that we have to maintain. So there is gonna be a balance, but I would 00:19:36.452 --> 00:19:41.950 - really like to see like a more budget forecast of like how we can increase our funding here without 00:19:41.950 --> 00:19:47.998 - having to take away in other areas. Also with what we've done with our budget of like really making sure that 00:19:48.098 --> 00:19:55.330 - the efforts to storm water are being compensated in personnel as well of all of our other needs. So 00:19:55.330 --> 00:20:02.707 - like to just increase this dollar amount without kind of having some of these unknowns identified and 00:20:02.707 --> 00:20:10.590 - we won't know until 2027, unfortunately. We'll know in November. Well, we can get some projections for sure. 00:20:11.042 --> 00:20:17.712 - And then finally, so as of now, you know, my main concern here outside of everything else I said is 00:20:17.712 --> 00:20:24.583 - I cannot support either of these two due to the public transparency. That's non-negotiable for me. The 00:20:24.583 --> 00:20:31.853 - public needs to know where these rate payer dollars are going to. And without that, I will not be supporting 00:20:31.853 --> 00:20:38.590 - that. And I urge my colleagues to support that transparency and come back to us when we can actually 00:20:38.722 --> 00:20:46.127 - you know, talk about who is asking for these dollars. But again, I applaud your effort. I want to do 00:20:46.127 --> 00:20:53.459 - this with something I've talked about, how we can expand our efforts to more rate payers across the 00:20:53.459 --> 00:21:01.230 - county. But just with that one concern, I can't support it, sorry. So as far as the personal information, 00:21:01.230 --> 00:21:07.902 - when we are using an NRCS design, yeah, we get kind of stuck, because that's their policy. 00:21:08.002 --> 00:21:14.688 - However, when we have the landowners sign the agreement, we have a statement that says, are you comfortable 00:21:14.688 --> 00:21:20.569 - sharing your personal information? I know that we really like these projects to be educational 00:21:20.569 --> 00:21:26.760 - and forward-facing. I think we've only had one person say that they weren't comfortable. So most of 00:21:26.760 --> 00:21:33.013 - the time, people are very comfortable. And we've had the discussion with our board whether we should 00:21:33.013 --> 00:21:37.470 - deny a project based on their comfortability of their land being shown. 00:21:38.242 --> 00:21:45.960 - is a discussion that's maybe important to have. I'm not sure how to work around NRCS's rules, but. Well, 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:53.310 - I'll refer you to Dave Schilling that helped me through this, but one of the most key components to 00:21:53.310 --> 00:22:01.174 - it is when it was a USDA or a federal computer that was hosting this and then also you're using documents. 00:22:01.174 --> 00:22:07.422 - So if we didn't submit the documents that they prepared and gave you and we have the 00:22:07.714 --> 00:22:14.088 - application where they're comfortable with releasing their information, we could just compare, you know, 00:22:14.088 --> 00:22:20.220 - create our own project location, do a summary. Obviously, we're not going to get into the minutia of 00:22:20.220 --> 00:22:26.533 - the engineering and things like that. So there are ways to allow the public to know where those dollars 00:22:26.533 --> 00:22:32.725 - are going to go. But I'm going to defer to Mr. Schilling to kind of iron out any other detail I might 00:22:32.725 --> 00:22:35.518 - have, you know, skipped over or glossed over. 00:22:36.642 --> 00:22:43.738 - Yeah, I think that's definitely something to kind of work out the kinks of how whether or not we want 00:22:43.738 --> 00:22:50.973 - to make that a necessary thing for the projects or not. In terms of the profit against nonprofit versus 00:22:50.973 --> 00:22:58.138 - we're looking at the conservation concerns versus like, yeah, trying to help the business necessarily, 00:22:58.138 --> 00:23:02.590 - but like the erosion and flooding and the I totally understand. 00:23:03.202 --> 00:23:11.329 - Animals access the water is really important. I think this has a great benefit, but I just can't ask 00:23:11.329 --> 00:23:19.376 - the public transportation, not transportation, transparency. And, you know, again, I really applaud 00:23:19.376 --> 00:23:27.584 - your efforts. Like, I totally want to support this. I just can't at this moment. So there are maps in 00:23:27.584 --> 00:23:29.918 - the packet that they're why. 00:23:30.210 --> 00:23:39.226 - In our packet, there is the application information with maps. So we know where these things are going. 00:23:39.226 --> 00:23:47.201 - So, and I'm not going to worry about 2027 until later in 2026. So I'm okay supporting this, 00:23:47.201 --> 00:23:55.870 - both of them, because they are to benefit all residents of Monroe County. So I'll leave it at that. 00:23:59.010 --> 00:24:07.566 - big ask to make the public to go in there search that look for identify I mean like it's there I'm pretty 00:24:07.566 --> 00:24:16.042 - savvy and it took me a bit of time to look at it I know I'm just stating it's a big ask I'm not thinking 00:24:16.042 --> 00:24:24.356 - I'm asking for anything that can't come back to us to receive resolve these concerns and can I ask one 00:24:24.356 --> 00:24:27.262 - clarifying question of Erica so the 00:24:27.394 --> 00:24:35.027 - The final document that you have them sign the agreement, that's where you have the clause about comfort. 00:24:35.027 --> 00:24:42.732 - So they have not signed any agreements yet to receive the funding. So that's in part why their information 00:24:42.732 --> 00:24:50.077 - is not being fully presented. Once they receive the funding, then it's a different story. But this is 00:24:50.077 --> 00:24:57.278 - preliminary, still going through the approval process. So that perspective might help a little bit. 00:24:58.082 --> 00:25:03.888 - We should have those details ironed out. Yeah, that just that just should be something like, you know, 00:25:03.888 --> 00:25:09.638 - I have a difference on the nonprofit for profit. That's that's different. But like, I want to support 00:25:09.638 --> 00:25:15.444 - this. But like without that, and we don't have to debate this. But like, I think it's really important 00:25:15.444 --> 00:25:21.137 - since it's a rate payer fee and everyone in the county pays into this, except there's the exceptions 00:25:21.137 --> 00:25:23.166 - to know where those dollars end up. 00:25:24.386 --> 00:25:30.288 - And what you're saying is maybe we will after the fact. But I do not think it's OK to be like, 00:25:30.288 --> 00:25:36.625 - here's a map. Do the research. Figure it out on your own. We should be accountable for the rate payer 00:25:36.625 --> 00:25:43.211 - dollars and make sure the public has the transparency needed to understand where these dollars are going. 00:25:43.211 --> 00:25:49.486 - Yes, I agree. It is a public benefit. And I will not argue that. I do want to support it. But I will 00:25:49.486 --> 00:25:53.214 - not at this time. And that's just me. Let me try this, sir. 00:25:53.442 --> 00:26:04.955 - I'm going to move approval of the increased funding for application 3-2026 with the understanding that 00:26:04.955 --> 00:26:16.803 - this will only be made available if the recipient's information is published per public records in Monroe 00:26:16.803 --> 00:26:19.262 - County. There you go. 00:26:23.042 --> 00:26:31.089 - If there's no second, then that'll fail and we'll move on. Okay. I will second that. Okay. Any comments? 00:26:31.089 --> 00:26:38.446 - I just don't see how this is going to create fairness with the model that we have in place. Um, 00:26:38.446 --> 00:26:46.110 - without those, you know, a lot of people in need for the funding is open to all residents of Monroe 00:26:46.110 --> 00:26:51.934 - County. So it's not like they're being excluded. This is exceeding the max. 00:26:52.066 --> 00:26:58.497 - That's where that fairness comes in is they have a match. They have a threshold that they can get their 00:26:58.497 --> 00:27:04.990 - exceptions. And I don't see how we're going to treat every single person the same. So based off of that, 00:27:04.990 --> 00:27:11.236 - you know, I just I mean, it's this is my position. I don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable or 00:27:11.236 --> 00:27:17.791 - feel like they're not important and that we're not trying to make a good effort. But like the next person 00:27:17.791 --> 00:27:19.646 - that comes and asks for this, 00:27:20.098 --> 00:27:28.038 - If we say yes to them, I can say yes today, but I don't know if that's gonna be the case, so I'm not 00:27:28.038 --> 00:27:35.192 - gonna be able to support off of that as well, sorry. Can I make a comment real quick? Yes, 00:27:35.192 --> 00:27:43.446 - go ahead Lisa. So I appreciate Tron's discussion. I was here during all those discussions, I think Julie 00:27:43.446 --> 00:27:45.726 - was too, about transparency. 00:27:45.826 --> 00:27:53.604 - property ownership and things. Maybe moving forward, we kind of get together and have a process of how 00:27:53.604 --> 00:28:01.231 - we're going to do that. Maybe meet with Dave Schilling and kind of maybe bring that topic back up as 00:28:01.231 --> 00:28:08.858 - staff of how can we make this work and meet everybody's needs. And then you won't have that question 00:28:08.858 --> 00:28:13.918 - about where the funds are going and how we can be more transparent 00:28:14.018 --> 00:28:20.212 - in the next applications and such. And I know we're willing to do that as staff to make it work with 00:28:20.212 --> 00:28:26.406 - SWCD. And I'm okay with increasing the amount to the mini grant and having exceptions to exceed what 00:28:26.406 --> 00:28:32.538 - the max is if they hit certain criteria and then go through the application process where, okay, we 00:28:32.538 --> 00:28:38.670 - have a budgeted amount and when that budgeted amount isn't there, then that's when we can stop kind 00:28:38.670 --> 00:28:41.246 - of giving that relief or that partnership 00:28:41.346 --> 00:28:47.606 - of that financial burden that the property owner's gonna have. But without that structure, we're just 00:28:47.606 --> 00:28:53.743 - doing kind of a one-off. I'd rather see an increase in the mini-grant and say, hey, if you hit this 00:28:53.743 --> 00:29:00.125 - threshold, you can increase it to 8,000. This is the $20,000 reserve we have, and once we deplete that, 00:29:00.125 --> 00:29:06.384 - there is no more kind of exceptions. But without creating that mechanism to be fair for everyone that 00:29:06.384 --> 00:29:11.294 - needs that relief, I just can't do it, and I'm really, really sorry about that. 00:29:11.394 --> 00:29:18.201 - It's I will say it's a thing that would be great for discussion because we've seen more interest this 00:29:18.201 --> 00:29:24.942 - year than we've ever seen which is amazing. We were hitting about the budget line each year and this 00:29:24.942 --> 00:29:32.350 - year I have already like seven I have way more going to be probably through the funding a lot earlier than we. 00:29:32.674 --> 00:29:37.928 - have ever been, which is really exciting. And I think with NRCS having less funding, we're going to 00:29:37.928 --> 00:29:43.339 - be seeing more expensive projects that we're not used to seeing that we could kind of fill in the gaps 00:29:43.339 --> 00:29:48.698 - and make a really big impact. So it definitely might be worth a further discussion. Finally, just the 00:29:48.698 --> 00:29:52.638 - for-profit nonprofit, that's not really a huge concern because of the prop 00:29:52.898 --> 00:29:58.861 - program itself allows farmers to go in it. And we don't really scrutinize like what they're doing. So 00:29:58.861 --> 00:30:04.708 - sometimes it can benefit a farmer that is selling their produce or things of that nature. So that's 00:30:04.708 --> 00:30:11.139 - not really my sticking. It's how can we be fair and how can we have that transparency? So I really appreciate 00:30:11.139 --> 00:30:16.985 - my colleague kind of offering a solution there, but the other one's kind of a sticking point for me 00:30:16.985 --> 00:30:21.662 - too. I apologize. Can we get public comment and then call the question, please? 00:30:22.594 --> 00:30:31.216 - So is there anyone who would like to offer public comment in the room? Is there anyone who would like 00:30:31.216 --> 00:30:39.922 - to offer public comment online? Raise your hand. Seeing none, I will call the question. All those. And 00:30:39.922 --> 00:30:48.628 - actually, I don't have a pen. I don't have a pen. I don't have a pen. I don't have a pen. I don't have 00:30:48.628 --> 00:30:50.910 - a pen. I don't have a pen. 00:30:51.330 --> 00:30:59.855 - Now would you do a roll call vote, please? And did you break down how Commissioner Thomas phrased her 00:30:59.855 --> 00:31:08.546 - motion? Yeah, so I wrote it basically as a condition of approval that the recipient information be made 00:31:08.546 --> 00:31:17.155 - public through public. I didn't fully finish. In Monroe County as a public record. Yes. Roll the roll. 00:31:17.155 --> 00:31:20.414 - Please. OK. Thomas? Yes. Madeira? Yes. 00:31:25.058 --> 00:31:36.265 - Could I just say pass? Sorry to use that. Okay. And then we'll come back around on the second application 00:31:36.265 --> 00:31:48.318 - as well. We do have the second application. Did you want to hear a synopsis of that? It's a very similar project. 00:31:49.474 --> 00:31:59.853 - Different situation where they are just kind of at the top of a hill but have a high water table. So 00:31:59.853 --> 00:32:10.437 - they're not receiving direct runoff from a neighbor or the roadway. Sorry scrolling down here. You can 00:32:10.437 --> 00:32:17.630 - see that their fields are just kind of sitting very wet after a rain. 00:32:18.690 --> 00:32:26.780 - wild to drain. Anything to add? Yeah, I will say too, they've tried. Tiling is not the conservation 00:32:26.780 --> 00:32:34.950 - practice we would recommend. We don't love tiling by any means, but they have, you know, we want the 00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:42.878 - land to do what the land is supposed to do, but they've tried many, many other methods with fail. 00:32:43.042 --> 00:32:50.122 - food security and local food and sustainability is you kind of have to weigh the options between those 00:32:50.122 --> 00:32:56.995 - two conservation practices. So that's kind of what we're looking at with this application. They are 00:32:56.995 --> 00:33:03.937 - going to do it the most comprehensively they can for the soil health. I'm going to go ahead and make 00:33:03.937 --> 00:33:10.811 - a motion to prove the Soil and Water Conservation District cost share program increased funding for 00:33:10.811 --> 00:33:12.254 - application six dash 00:33:12.642 --> 00:33:21.387 - dash 2026 with the same stipulation that to accept this grant the information about the recipient must 00:33:21.387 --> 00:33:30.048 - be made part county public record. I will second that. You know the fact I have to do my own research 00:33:30.048 --> 00:33:38.878 - and then I actually had to go online and like from what I was able to find which I can't like affirm is 00:33:39.042 --> 00:33:46.108 - 100% accurate this is a nonprofit and if that was able to be released and in the packet I think this 00:33:46.108 --> 00:33:53.103 - is something I could kind of get behind. The other ones I would like to more structured kind of way 00:33:53.103 --> 00:34:00.309 - of doing it but like making exceptions for like nonprofit type organizations that have been a positive 00:34:00.309 --> 00:34:07.934 - asset to our community would get me there but the fact that you know I have to speculate by my own research. 00:34:08.962 --> 00:34:17.988 - Unfortunately, I won't be able to do. I just really want to be transparent on how I feel about this, 00:34:17.988 --> 00:34:27.103 - so if we can craft something that the board can get behind, I think we can actually make this program 00:34:27.103 --> 00:34:36.308 - even stronger moving forward. Any public comment here in the Net Heel Room? Any public comment online? 00:34:36.308 --> 00:34:37.470 - Seeing none. 00:34:37.634 --> 00:34:47.728 - Let's have a roll call vote again. Thomas? Yes. Madira? Yes. And Wright-Randolph? Yes. And I think we're 00:34:47.728 --> 00:34:57.534 - on to staff reports. Yes. So before I get into the staff reports, I do want to give one quick update. 00:34:57.698 --> 00:35:04.767 - as well. So we did post the refresh request for qualifications for a long range drainage plan. Next 00:35:04.767 --> 00:35:11.907 - Wednesday is the information session and then the due date for those is just before our next meeting 00:35:11.907 --> 00:35:19.189 - on June 4th at 3 p.m. So we are finally making some progress on that and hopefully we will have a firm 00:35:19.189 --> 00:35:26.046 - at the July meeting to have a contract settled with you but we'll see how those negotiations go. 00:35:26.818 --> 00:35:36.272 - All right. So our first staff report will be from Adam our stormwater specialist his presentation. So 00:35:36.272 --> 00:35:45.632 - he we submitted our annual report by April 1st which was received with no comments. And this is just 00:35:45.632 --> 00:35:47.486 - your annual update. 00:36:06.370 --> 00:36:28.749 - No, you can sit here. I just need to get it posted. Okay, so what we have here is just the representation 00:36:28.749 --> 00:36:36.350 - of the watersheds in Monroe County. 00:36:36.706 --> 00:36:45.637 - General permit, we have to meet minimum control measures. I'm not going to read through these, but ideally, 00:36:45.637 --> 00:36:54.154 - we want to exceed these minimum control measures. We want to go above and beyond. And then for minimum 00:36:54.154 --> 00:37:02.920 - control measure one and two, public education outreach and public participation, we strive to have events 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.558 - that include the public, regardless of age. 00:37:07.746 --> 00:37:15.465 - provide hands-on education for stormwater issues so that they can see the connection why we want to 00:37:15.465 --> 00:37:23.183 - protect stormwater. So Bugfest is a really good example where we have record attendance for all the 00:37:23.183 --> 00:37:31.519 - years that I can recall. So we constantly have visitors to that station. So that's an excellent opportunity 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.382 - to kind of plant our seeds, so to speak, especially for youth. 00:37:37.122 --> 00:37:46.048 - And then we have at least one cleanup event each year. So once again, we try to reach out to either 00:37:46.048 --> 00:37:54.973 - businesses, schools, so that we can have people, you know, volunteer their time to help protect our 00:37:54.973 --> 00:38:04.702 - resources. So in addition, we have last year, 2025, we had the Realtalk stormwater seminar for realtors that 00:38:05.634 --> 00:38:13.840 - Ideally, we want to have realtors and home buyers be familiar with the stormwater issues so that we're 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:22.046 - trying to reduce the mystery and the consternation that they may experience when there is a stormwater 00:38:22.046 --> 00:38:30.172 - issue that we want them to be educated about what happens. Team night through MCC, SC, that's another 00:38:30.172 --> 00:38:33.438 - excellent opportunity just to have youth 00:38:33.730 --> 00:38:41.477 - introduced to stormwater issues. And then we had the magnet that we produced that after a little bit 00:38:41.477 --> 00:38:49.377 - of modification, we had it updated to our current website. And then for minimum control measure three, 00:38:49.377 --> 00:38:57.201 - we have the illicit discharge detection and elimination. So that involves illicit discharge reporting 00:38:57.201 --> 00:39:01.726 - when there's a spill or release around the county might be 00:39:02.818 --> 00:39:10.986 - a gas station where somebody overfills their gas tank. It might be something more significant where 00:39:10.986 --> 00:39:19.318 - we have soil from a site that's being introduced into a tributary. So we want to understand how those 00:39:19.318 --> 00:39:27.977 - happen and ideally try to prevent that from occurring in the future so that I think once again, education 00:39:27.977 --> 00:39:31.326 - is an important part of that so that the 00:39:32.194 --> 00:39:41.684 - entity that has allowed or released that, part of that release understands how they can work to prevent 00:39:41.684 --> 00:39:50.991 - that in the future. Outfall screens, that basically involves, I have three different examples. One is 00:39:50.991 --> 00:40:01.758 - a piped outfall, which is pretty uncommon for Monroe County. We have more ditches, like as in the right-hand pitcher, 00:40:01.986 --> 00:40:10.843 - Sometimes we just have a concrete ditch. So we want to understand, once again, we want to prevent inputs 00:40:10.843 --> 00:40:19.531 - into the stormwater before they reach the outfall. By the time it gets to the outfall, it's really too 00:40:19.531 --> 00:40:28.557 - late. But the screenings allow us to understand what's happening in our watersheds. And then we understand 00:40:28.557 --> 00:40:30.750 - the land uses that occur, 00:40:30.850 --> 00:40:38.410 - may impact those outfalls. And then as part of the MCM-3, we have our water quality monitoring data, 00:40:38.410 --> 00:40:46.344 - which I'm not gonna speak, we're gonna have a presentation on that shortly. But all the data is available 00:40:46.344 --> 00:40:53.978 - through the Hoosier River Watch website. And then MCM-4, construction site stormwater runoff. There's 00:40:53.978 --> 00:40:59.966 - still a lot of construction happening, so we wanna protect stormwater resources 00:41:00.418 --> 00:41:07.923 - around those construction sites. Once again, education is really important so that if something is tended 00:41:07.923 --> 00:41:15.711 - to that we identify that and we work to eliminate that and prevent that. I'd like to highlight the stormwater 00:41:15.711 --> 00:41:23.075 - inquiry form that's on our website. I feel like that's a really good example. We're trying to make this 00:41:23.075 --> 00:41:29.022 - as easy as possible. Before somebody begins a project, they have the opportunity to 00:41:29.410 --> 00:41:36.922 - Complete that inquiry form and then Greg and Ross and Erica will work to help them so that you know 00:41:36.922 --> 00:41:44.809 - Once again, we're trying to reduce the mystery and the strife that might be involved with a construction 00:41:44.809 --> 00:41:52.396 - projects so that we can have them understand what they need to submit so it makes life easier for us 00:41:52.396 --> 00:41:59.006 - as well, so And then with the MCM for we have the annual contractors workshop, which we 00:41:59.458 --> 00:42:08.417 - invite builders and engineers, professionals that are involved in the construction process so that they 00:42:08.417 --> 00:42:17.289 - understand how they can protect stormwater resource around their projects. And then MCM-5, that's more 00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:26.593 - of a long-term outlook where we're trying to prevent problems in the future. Any project needs maintenance, 00:42:26.593 --> 00:42:28.574 - so once again, we want 00:42:28.834 --> 00:42:36.773 - They have the homeowners, the homeowners associations, the residents that understand what they need 00:42:36.773 --> 00:42:45.188 - to do to maintain those facilities, whether it's a detention bond or a vegetative swale. And then lastly, 00:42:45.188 --> 00:42:53.286 - municipal operations, pollution prevention and good housekeeping. I think Monroe County does a really 00:42:53.286 --> 00:42:58.526 - good job in terms of trying to protect our county infrastructure. 00:42:58.818 --> 00:43:06.614 - with the brine system that was installed a few years ago. When we do street sweeping, we try to make 00:43:06.614 --> 00:43:14.488 - sure that that goes to the proper location. And then try to protect fuel spills so that if we do have 00:43:14.488 --> 00:43:22.670 - a spill, we take care of it on site, we prevent it from going off site. And we educate our county workers 00:43:22.670 --> 00:43:28.382 - so they understand how they can protect the stormwater resources as well. 00:43:29.634 --> 00:43:40.295 - That's it. So thank you for your attention. Thank you. Thanks. I have to admit that this is sort of 00:43:40.295 --> 00:43:51.169 - my favorite phase of every public meeting. They're always so educational and thank you for your great 00:43:51.169 --> 00:43:57.246 - work. And I think we have one more report. Just quickly. 00:43:57.762 --> 00:44:06.128 - I guess I'd just like to follow up on this with the education summit. Are we still targeting like HOAs 00:44:06.128 --> 00:44:14.412 - as well as developers and things of that nature? And do you feel like this has been a positive impact 00:44:14.412 --> 00:44:23.102 - with some of it? Just to be really short. Yeah, so there's the contractors workshop, which is specifically 00:44:23.102 --> 00:44:25.214 - for builders, developers, 00:44:25.346 --> 00:44:31.963 - anyone involved in the building process. And then we have different workshops for HOAs. We did a realtors 00:44:31.963 --> 00:44:38.455 - workshop. Oftentimes people buy a home and don't realize that there's drainage easements. So we've been 00:44:38.455 --> 00:44:44.823 - trying to work with the realtors so that they can be the first line of information for people to know 00:44:44.823 --> 00:44:51.065 - what the property they're looking at will hold for them. So yeah, I think it has made a difference. 00:44:51.065 --> 00:44:54.686 - We've had some people just contact us afterwards and say, 00:44:55.682 --> 00:45:02.610 - you know, thank you for sharing that information. It helped me understand my own property or a property 00:45:02.610 --> 00:45:09.404 - that we were looking at and just the best way for us to move forward. So we've gotten a lot of really 00:45:09.404 --> 00:45:16.132 - positive feedback. That's awesome. I think under the MC and minimal control measures, I think public 00:45:16.132 --> 00:45:23.193 - outreach is one of the most important ones. So I really applaud stormwater taking the effort of educating 00:45:23.193 --> 00:45:24.126 - other various 00:45:24.482 --> 00:45:33.470 - stakeholders, if you will, or people that are impacted. 00:45:57.922 --> 00:46:07.866 - Sorry, I think I have one more report. Yes, sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to share it. It's not 00:46:07.866 --> 00:46:18.394 - sharing in the same way as the other one did. They're never quite the same. Yeah, my apologies. I misheard. 00:46:18.394 --> 00:46:24.926 - I'm excited about this one. I was excited about the last one, too. 00:46:28.578 --> 00:46:40.798 - One more time. Yeah. No, I don't want to restart it. OK. All right. So this is one of our, she's a graduate 00:46:40.798 --> 00:46:52.452 - fellow and stayed on with us over the summer, Bella Melrose. So I'll turn it over to her for the water 00:46:52.452 --> 00:46:56.638 - quality monitoring year two updates. 00:47:03.874 --> 00:47:10.000 - Hi, everyone. Like Erica said, my name is Bella Melrose and I have the pleasure of being both of our, 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:16.067 - I call it SPIA still, our SPIA fellow during the academic year and our summer intern right now. So I 00:47:16.067 --> 00:47:22.433 - believe there was a presentation delivered to you all last year kind of summarizing year one developments 00:47:22.433 --> 00:47:26.878 - and the foundational information of our water quality monitoring program. 00:47:28.290 --> 00:47:34.538 - So just to give you a brief overview on year two, all seven monitoring sites that are spread throughout 00:47:34.538 --> 00:47:40.907 - the county remained within state standards. Water quality index ratings remained good or excellent across 00:47:40.907 --> 00:47:47.035 - all seven sites as well. There were a few different perimeters that did decline compared to year one, 00:47:47.035 --> 00:47:53.404 - but they still remained well above minimum thresholds, which kind of speaks to the water quality strength 00:47:53.404 --> 00:47:58.270 - in the county. Turbidity also remained low overall with site-specific variation. 00:47:58.626 --> 00:48:05.120 - discharge patterns, reflected precipitation variability, which we had a lot of last spring, and then 00:48:05.120 --> 00:48:11.807 - BOD or biochemical oxygen demand monitoring was added in year two. Monitoring consistency. Like I said, 00:48:11.807 --> 00:48:18.430 - there are seven monitoring sites across critical MS4 watersheds. Monthly sampling was conducted at all 00:48:18.430 --> 00:48:25.374 - sites throughout the year. Same methodology as year one, which utilizes IDEM's Hoosier River Watch program. 00:48:26.274 --> 00:48:33.189 - The land use and site locations were largely unchanged across all of our states. And like I mentioned 00:48:33.189 --> 00:48:39.968 - before, BOD was added in February 2025 to expand assessment. And recently, as you'll see at the end 00:48:39.968 --> 00:48:45.662 - of this presentation, we actually also added conductivity as one of our parameters. 00:48:45.858 --> 00:48:52.995 - Inter-annual summary all parameters as I mentioned remained within applicable standards minor inter-annual 00:48:52.995 --> 00:48:59.732 - changes were observed as you can see in the year-over-year change column but there was no indication 00:48:59.732 --> 00:49:06.468 - of systemic weakening if anything it could just be a number of variables that is kind of And per the 00:49:06.468 --> 00:49:13.405 - note below the table Hoosier River watch for BOD 5 which we added 1 to 2 milligrams per liter indicates 00:49:13.405 --> 00:49:15.006 - clean water with little 00:49:15.266 --> 00:49:23.286 - to no organic wastes. Observed interannual changes just kind of highlight a couple of parameters. Dissolved 00:49:23.286 --> 00:49:31.158 - oxygen decreased to around 1.3 milligrams per liter, but all sites remained well above the four milligram 00:49:31.158 --> 00:49:38.733 - per liter minimum. And as I spoke of previously, this was likely due to temperature and season driven 00:49:38.733 --> 00:49:41.406 - variation. Nitrate around the same. 00:49:42.498 --> 00:49:49.874 - Reasonings there increased at six out of seven sites, but remains well below eutrophication risk threshold. 00:49:49.874 --> 00:49:56.908 - So all of our sites are able to support, you know, bountiful flora and fauna. And continued monitoring 00:49:56.908 --> 00:50:03.805 - is obviously recommended for both of those parameters. Management implications, there's no immediate 00:50:03.805 --> 00:50:05.854 - intervention that's required. 00:50:06.306 --> 00:50:12.927 - Like I spoke of at the last slide, continuing targeted nutrient or parameter tracking, maintain a focus 00:50:12.927 --> 00:50:19.866 - on the Cave Creek corridor and integrating precipitation context into trend analysis, which we do currently. 00:50:19.866 --> 00:50:25.214 - But I think that it would be beneficial to more actively work it into our analysis. 00:50:25.986 --> 00:50:32.730 - And then finally, next steps and conclusion, like I just said, integrate rainfall data into reporting. 00:50:32.730 --> 00:50:39.474 - I think that'd be incredibly beneficial. Continue BOD and BOD5 monitoring, maintain current locations, 00:50:39.474 --> 00:50:46.676 - and expand wet weather monitoring, which kind of goes hand in hand with the rainfall data. Expand interagency 00:50:46.676 --> 00:50:53.486 - coordination with CBU. We began conductivity monitoring. As I spoke of, WQI scores remain strong across 00:50:53.486 --> 00:50:54.206 - all sites. 00:50:55.234 --> 00:51:02.437 - Observe variability appears climate and precipitation driven. And then finally, continuing annual monitoring 00:51:02.437 --> 00:51:09.178 - supports proactive stormwater management, which to give a little bit of background of myself, I never 00:51:09.178 --> 00:51:16.117 - really had any kind of background information in stormwater. So this program has been incredibly helpful 00:51:16.117 --> 00:51:23.518 - in making sure that I have the appropriate foundation to maybe one day become a stormwater professional myself. 00:51:26.882 --> 00:51:33.475 - This is Melrose. Very good. Thank you for this. Is there a written version of this report? There's a 00:51:33.475 --> 00:51:40.132 - written version of this report. Can I get a copy? I don't know if my colleagues want one as well, but 00:51:40.132 --> 00:51:46.725 - I'd love to see a copy of that. Not because I'm questioning any of your conclusions, but because I'm 00:51:46.725 --> 00:51:52.926 - really interested to see Cave Creek versus others and what you've done. So thank you for that. 00:51:53.122 --> 00:52:00.214 - Absolutely, there is a packet that contains a lot more information and context that I will be happy 00:52:00.214 --> 00:52:07.236 - to send all your ways. I figured you'd have to do a report. Thank you. Thank you for the wonderful 00:52:07.236 --> 00:52:14.825 - information. I'd be interested to. I love watching or looking at things that are monitoring our waterways. 00:52:14.825 --> 00:52:17.662 - The one thing I said is, unfortunately, 00:52:19.618 --> 00:52:27.042 - the land use and site locations are pretty much unchanged. I'd really love to see one that adds a perfectly 00:52:27.042 --> 00:52:33.642 - as surface development and just being able to compare that, you know, that would be. That would 00:52:33.642 --> 00:52:41.067 - be interesting. Yeah, that might be a longer time series to look at because the changes are so incremental. 00:52:41.067 --> 00:52:48.766 - But yeah, that's that's a good thing to add. You know, when we do maybe hit a five year milestone and a 10 year 00:52:49.314 --> 00:52:56.913 - But look back at how it has changed over those periods. That's a good idea. Whatever we can do to extend 00:52:56.913 --> 00:53:04.151 - our ability to water monitoring is... It will always be supported. Just a quick nerdy question too. 00:53:04.151 --> 00:53:11.388 - So, and I imagine it's dependent on how drastic the change is, but how pervasive or how long does a 00:53:11.388 --> 00:53:16.382 - change have to be before we take action? Like five years, two years? 00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:23.838 - Well, I will say they've had some like anomalies. They're like, this looks kind of weird. So they we 00:53:23.838 --> 00:53:30.787 - do kind of branch out and look at what's happening in that drainage area. And so there was one instance 00:53:30.787 --> 00:53:35.998 - where we did see Excess sediment. And so we did find an illicit discharge and 00:53:36.930 --> 00:53:45.061 - Stop that. So that was good. So it kind of varies depends on which parameter has the weirdness to it. 00:53:45.061 --> 00:53:53.112 - You know, we're only going out once a month. So we're getting a really tiny snapshot of it. I'd love 00:53:53.112 --> 00:53:55.902 - to have a crew that could do this. 00:53:56.162 --> 00:54:03.522 - you know, every week, then we'd really get a bigger picture. But we just, we don't have that staff level 00:54:03.522 --> 00:54:10.531 - at this point. So this just really gives us a larger oversight of what's happening and give us some 00:54:10.531 --> 00:54:17.680 - of those. This looks funny. Let's go look at it more closely. Thank you so much. So very much case by 00:54:17.680 --> 00:54:23.358 - case. Thank you. And is there any other business? I don't see any on the agenda. 00:54:24.962 --> 00:54:32.360 - My colleagues have any other comments, questions? Yes, go ahead. Is anyone planning on attending the 00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:39.758 - stormwater conference in West Lafayette in July? I don't know that I'll be able to, but I'll have to 00:54:39.758 --> 00:54:47.448 - double check with my staff. It's just a great opportunity. They kind of separated road school and storm. 00:54:47.448 --> 00:54:54.846 - I wanted to plug that. I think I'll be on vacation, so I won't be attending, but I was just curious. 00:54:55.618 --> 00:55:01.413 - I just want to tell the board, I went to Stipp Road yesterday and I want to thank you guys for your 00:55:01.413 --> 00:55:07.497 - support in that project. It's been on the books for a long time. The only part that was underwater after 00:55:07.497 --> 00:55:13.350 - all the rain we had last week was just the car top area, which we predicted because we did not build 00:55:13.350 --> 00:55:19.145 - up that area. But going past the driveways that used to be, did not have access to their homes when 00:55:19.145 --> 00:55:20.478 - in these flood events. 00:55:20.706 --> 00:55:26.854 - did not occur. So I just, you know, the Morse Creek Road was tied to that and the Stipp Road project, 00:55:26.854 --> 00:55:33.182 - you've sunk a lot of money into it, but it paid off. And so we're pleased to get one of those long range 00:55:33.182 --> 00:55:39.330 - plans done, completed along with the Redbud Heights that's been on the books. We already have another 00:55:39.330 --> 00:55:45.598 - one in the works that we'll probably be bringing to you. So I just want to thank you for the support on 00:55:45.762 --> 00:55:52.317 - on funding that and supporting that project and us seeing it to completion. I know it was huge for Erica 00:55:52.317 --> 00:55:58.622 - to come on board and go into that project, but she did great. And so I just wanna thank you for your 00:55:58.622 --> 00:56:05.427 - support over the years for that project. And I think that's a great example of, well, why are you benefiting 00:56:05.427 --> 00:56:11.358 - those few homeowners who bought a house on a road that floods every time it rains by the lake? 00:56:11.650 --> 00:56:17.955 - It's a benefit for everybody in the community and it's a safety issue and you know You can't parse out 00:56:17.955 --> 00:56:24.138 - that kind of thing. I'm so glad it got done Because that's what I heard when I saw the list of roads 00:56:24.138 --> 00:56:30.260 - that were closed because of the rain I was like why is stupor and then I found out Okay, that makes 00:56:30.260 --> 00:56:36.443 - sense. That was there was that piece that we were not going to there is the piece we didn't raise in 00:56:36.443 --> 00:56:37.790 - either project didn't 00:56:39.298 --> 00:56:45.230 - to be benefited, there was nobody that would be displaced in that area. So we made the project to where 00:56:45.230 --> 00:56:51.104 - the homeowners can get to their homes and that was the purpose of the project. That's the whole point. 00:56:51.104 --> 00:56:57.264 - And emergency vehicles can get there as well and that's the other part of it. Thank you so much. Appreciate 00:56:57.264 --> 00:57:03.139 - that. I appreciate the wisdom of seeing what has to be done. I mean, I think that's a big part of what 00:57:03.139 --> 00:57:05.534 - we do and I'm looking forward to engaging 00:57:10.018 --> 00:57:16.980 - Thanks for getting us to the finish line too. Or at least me. I know I could be a handful occasionally. 00:57:16.980 --> 00:57:24.010 - Yeah. I launched my kayak at that exact spot where it said road closed and you couldn't pass and paddled 00:57:24.010 --> 00:57:30.972 - out. Solved the sign of car top like a foot and a half underwater. And it was a fun adventure paddling. 00:57:30.972 --> 00:57:37.667 - I almost want to pull it up on my Instagram, but I won't waste our time. But yeah, it's exciting to 00:57:37.667 --> 00:57:39.742 - see that access be had because 00:57:39.874 --> 00:57:49.101 - while I was there, you saw people coming with four-wheelers dragging like a little cart with their family 00:57:49.101 --> 00:57:57.805 - in it because they're all parking on the side of the road to have access. That's pretty cool and it 00:57:57.805 --> 00:58:05.726 - took a while to see that value. So I think dragging me along. Have the best people. We do. 00:58:06.722 --> 00:58:15.134 - then it's time for adjournment and the bell tolls. Our next meeting is June 24th, 2026. Have a wonderful night.