WEBVTT 00:00:00.706 --> 00:00:08.707 - I would like to call to order this meeting of the Monroe County Storm Order Management Board. 00:00:08.707 --> 00:00:17.303 - It is Wednesday, July 22nd, 2026 at 3.30 p.m. and we are here in the NatU Hill meeting room. Present 00:00:17.303 --> 00:00:25.985 - are Commissioner Thomas and Surveyor Tron and Wright Randall. And so we have a quorum, so we are good 00:00:25.985 --> 00:00:27.006 - to proceed. 00:00:27.266 --> 00:00:35.304 - So first on our agenda is public input for items not on the agenda. We have no one here in the NatU 00:00:35.304 --> 00:00:43.663 - Hill Room. And so I would like to see if there is anyone online who would like to provide public input. 00:00:43.663 --> 00:00:51.862 - You can raise your hand on Teams. I see no one, so I will proceed. I'm going to make a motion that we 00:00:51.862 --> 00:00:56.926 - postpone item four, continue item four until our next meeting. 00:00:57.122 --> 00:01:04.854 - Thank you for that. And so I would like to second that motion. Are there any objections to that motion? 00:01:04.854 --> 00:01:12.587 - I think we can do the voice votes since we're all in person. All in favor of postponing item four until 00:01:12.587 --> 00:01:20.617 - our next meeting, say aye. Aye. Aye. That motion carries. And so we will postpone item four, the stormwater 00:01:20.617 --> 00:01:25.598 - expenditure report for May and June 2026 until our August meeting. 00:01:26.434 --> 00:01:35.812 - We can, however, move to item three on the agenda, which is approval of minutes for May 27th, 2026. 00:01:35.812 --> 00:01:45.284 - I move approval of the minutes for May 27th. I second that. Any changes to the minutes? If I can say 00:01:45.284 --> 00:01:55.037 - minutes. I had none. Any? Okay. So with that, all in favor of approving the minutes for May 27th, 2026, 00:01:55.037 --> 00:01:56.350 - say aye. Aye. 00:01:56.514 --> 00:02:05.270 - that motion carries. So on to new business. I think the first item new business is the Emergency Watershed 00:02:05.270 --> 00:02:13.698 - Protection Program. We have formal acceptance of EWPP funding. Yes, I think that we had kind of lumped 00:02:13.698 --> 00:02:22.208 - in acceptance of the funding into a task order with HNTB previously. And so this is wanted to make sure 00:02:22.208 --> 00:02:24.254 - that we had a standalone 00:02:24.802 --> 00:02:32.317 - of it for the record. Can you go ahead and go over the next two and then I can just make one motion 00:02:32.317 --> 00:02:39.982 - for the whole thing? That would be great. Yeah, so as part of our funding, we are partnering with the 00:02:39.982 --> 00:02:47.496 - city of Bloomington Parks and Recreation. The path of the tornado was through part county residents 00:02:47.496 --> 00:02:50.878 - properties as well as the Clear Creek Trail. 00:02:51.042 --> 00:02:59.707 - And so to access the logjam removal, debris removal, they will need to access from the trail and from 00:02:59.707 --> 00:03:08.456 - private property residences on either side of the creek. And there's no money involved in the MOU with 00:03:08.456 --> 00:03:15.422 - the city? Correct. There is in that they're going to pay for half of whatever the 00:03:15.618 --> 00:03:23.971 - covered portion of the funding is. So right now, based on the estimate that we received from Bluestone 00:03:23.971 --> 00:03:32.404 - for the work, that would come to $7,026 for each Monroe County and City of Bloomington parks. So that's 00:03:32.404 --> 00:03:40.838 - specified in the MOU. All of this makes sense and I really want to thank you again for going after this 00:03:40.838 --> 00:03:42.622 - because this is huge. 00:03:42.754 --> 00:03:50.397 - It's a huge difference for our funding going further. Yeah. So I'm going to make a motion to motion. 00:03:50.397 --> 00:03:58.116 - Could you just bring the packet to page 17? If someone's wanting to look at it, it shows the log jams 00:03:58.116 --> 00:04:06.137 - and a lot of what's going on. And this is in the effort to remove those just. I know we're really popular 00:04:06.137 --> 00:04:10.526 - on cats and such, but I'm sorry to jump in front of that. 00:04:10.786 --> 00:04:18.104 - I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to first approve, formally accept the EWPP funding. Second, 00:04:18.104 --> 00:04:25.788 - to approve the memorandum of understanding with the City of Bloomington Parks and Recreation. And third, 00:04:25.788 --> 00:04:33.326 - to accept the bid proposal by Bluestone Tree for Clear Creek logjam and debris removal. The total cost 00:04:33.326 --> 00:04:38.302 - of that for the county will be $7,026. I would like to second that. 00:04:40.290 --> 00:04:48.215 - Any commentary? Any public commentary? We have no one here in the Napier Hill Room. Is there anyone 00:04:48.215 --> 00:04:56.299 - online who would like to offer public commentary? I'll just say once again, this is spectacular. This 00:04:56.299 --> 00:05:04.382 - has been a project long in the making and to have this small contribution on the county level is just 00:05:04.706 --> 00:05:12.415 - amazing for such a large project and again demonstrates city county cooperation so thank you so very 00:05:12.415 --> 00:05:20.276 - much to everyone who has worked on this and brought this together and as you can see from the pictures 00:05:20.276 --> 00:05:27.984 - this is a very it's of inestimable value so do we have to do a can we just do and i think we have to 00:05:27.984 --> 00:05:34.014 - do a roll call because that's money okay commissioner thomas yes mr madera yes 00:05:34.210 --> 00:05:44.066 - I'm going to go ahead and make a motion, although we're going to have a discussion about this after 00:05:44.066 --> 00:05:54.120 - you have to leave, but I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to accept the proposed 2027 budget for 00:05:54.120 --> 00:06:03.582 - the stormwater. Pardon. I second that motion. And we're going to talk through some items later. 00:06:06.434 --> 00:06:13.689 - as a format. I would do public comment on this one. On that last one, should we? She already did. 00:06:13.689 --> 00:06:21.387 - She did. You did? Yes, yes. On the Emergency Watershed Prediction Program? Yeah, we did public comment. 00:06:21.387 --> 00:06:28.864 - No, no, no, we're good. And we should take comment on this one. Yes. So before the discussion on the 00:06:28.864 --> 00:06:34.046 - budget, should we just do public comment on that now? Yes, yes. Okay. 00:06:34.146 --> 00:06:42.421 - So I am opening public comment on the proposed budget. And I don't see anyone here in the Net-U-Hill 00:06:42.421 --> 00:06:51.106 - room. And again, the budget is up on the screen. Just calling attention to that. Online, no raised hands. 00:06:51.106 --> 00:06:59.463 - So actually, we can open the budget discussion. Or there was a motion. Depending on how much time you 00:06:59.463 --> 00:07:02.494 - had available, we were going to move 00:07:03.042 --> 00:07:13.240 - to take action to approve it. So if you need to leave and continue the discussion, so there is no actionable 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:23.251 - items. So if we can continue. It is 343. Okay, I can stay until around 350. Oh, I think we can get through 00:07:23.251 --> 00:07:27.742 - it. You guys want to highlight, run through it. 00:07:28.066 --> 00:07:37.687 - I've reviewed it, I'm comfortable. I could move to just a couple quick questions or my quick statement. 00:07:37.687 --> 00:07:47.308 - It's the board's pleasure. I think if Commissioner Redira has anything, she should go first. I did not, 00:07:47.308 --> 00:07:56.744 - I was going to see if you guys agree. I, as my guest new to this, and so I am still learning the ways 00:07:56.744 --> 00:07:57.854 - of budgets. 00:07:57.954 --> 00:08:07.283 - So everything looked sufficient to me, but I might have comments after hearing your comments, if that 00:08:07.283 --> 00:08:16.887 - makes sense. I could jump in if you want. This is just a statement. We're all aware of it. I just wanted 00:08:16.887 --> 00:08:23.838 - to make sure that we mentioned this prior to the adoption since we might be 00:08:24.066 --> 00:08:31.353 - dipping into the cash revenue. If we spend all of this down, I don't think we typically spend our budget 00:08:31.353 --> 00:08:38.432 - to zeros every year. And also us allocating the funds aren't necessarily moving us into an agreement. 00:08:38.432 --> 00:08:45.441 - So I'm comfortable with that. And why I started with that is the uncertainty about the efforts going 00:08:45.441 --> 00:08:53.214 - on with Richland Township in Ellitsville and the reorganization. And I have done some research and on the towns 00:08:53.378 --> 00:09:01.398 - they have town of Belitzville Richmond Township Reorganization approved plan and financial impact. It's 00:09:01.398 --> 00:09:09.187 - linked there or it was when I pulled the information. Basically they wanted a transition year budget 00:09:09.187 --> 00:09:16.976 - which was at $530,000. So a little over half a million. So I just did really rough in the numbers. I 00:09:16.976 --> 00:09:20.446 - don't think this is really going to give us. 00:09:20.994 --> 00:09:30.495 - of exactly what the impact is. I know that our program manager has looked at this in a way that I think 00:09:30.495 --> 00:09:39.722 - give us better numbers, but that could potentially reduce our revenue from two and a half million to 00:09:39.722 --> 00:09:49.406 - two million. I also did just some very basic GIS mapping of all the parcels within the Richland Township. 00:09:49.538 --> 00:09:57.374 - the parcel ID that last three digits shows that you're in the Richland Township, but not within the 00:09:57.374 --> 00:10:05.367 - town of Ellisville. That is, which might be interesting to know to some folks, there's 4,331 parcels. 00:10:05.367 --> 00:10:13.596 - And I just multiplied that by what we do with the residential equivalent residential unit fee at $75.77, 00:10:13.596 --> 00:10:18.846 - which was 328,000 and some change. So that might reduce the budget 00:10:19.458 --> 00:10:26.982 - it does happen to 2.2 million, which I still think we're really good. We have a nice cash balance. This 00:10:26.982 --> 00:10:34.362 - budget looks sound. The only thing I would suggest is before maybe we enter into a large project such 00:10:34.362 --> 00:10:41.669 - as what we're budgeting for Baby Creek at 1 million, we see what happens with that. So if we have to 00:10:41.669 --> 00:10:46.878 - slow that down a little bit, we have the ability to do that. But again, 00:10:47.138 --> 00:10:55.483 - This is all unknown and we're getting close to November, so we'll know more definitively. I just wanted 00:10:55.483 --> 00:11:03.507 - to say that not to dispute the budget. I'm in support of it, but to make sure that the public knows 00:11:03.507 --> 00:11:12.414 - that we're taking this into consideration as we're budgeting for ours. Yeah, and it doesn't take into account. 00:11:12.578 --> 00:11:21.671 - businesses and other you know so it's it's yeah so it's a good so it's a good way to ballpark it between 00:11:21.671 --> 00:11:30.591 - two numbers so we do have about three million in cash reserves even though our budget spending exceeds 00:11:30.591 --> 00:11:39.510 - our estimated revenue and that's with non elvesville richland included of 2.5 million so we're looking 00:11:39.510 --> 00:11:41.502 - to spend 3.392 million 00:11:41.634 --> 00:11:49.755 - But that one million of that is the Baby Creek project. And I'm not sure that we can slow things down 00:11:49.755 --> 00:11:57.797 - because we've done the engineering. So I will have to see. I think we're still OK with our budget no 00:11:57.797 --> 00:12:06.078 - matter what, even if that vote goes the other way. I have a quick single question for you, and that is, 00:12:06.530 --> 00:12:16.213 - about two-thirds of the way down the page, maintenance, good housekeeping, stormwater, and the hydro 00:12:16.213 --> 00:12:26.183 - seating are both removed. Can you explain both of those? Yes. They were removed because we haven't been 00:12:26.183 --> 00:12:32.990 - using hydro seating. Then the maintenance, good housekeeping, that was 00:12:33.122 --> 00:12:41.842 - one of my predecessors set that line up and we weren't totally sure how it was being used. So we can 00:12:41.842 --> 00:12:50.562 - tell you what it was for. Do you remember Tron? The maintenance good housekeeping was for that patch 00:12:50.562 --> 00:13:00.318 - of ground at highway where the vacuum truck is emptied and there was a lot of salt and that's what that was for. 00:13:00.994 --> 00:13:08.137 - But I don't know that that's an issue anymore, and so that would make sense to remove it. If we have 00:13:08.137 --> 00:13:15.208 - a project where we need to remediate something, I think it's a separate project. I don't think it's 00:13:15.208 --> 00:13:22.280 - an ongoing whatever, but it was the salt from the sweepers. Because they go through the streets and 00:13:22.280 --> 00:13:28.574 - they pick up a lot of salt in the spring. I believe that has been resolved more or less. 00:13:28.802 --> 00:13:36.102 - So your question, do you think? You should leave the hydro seating at $1 just in case we ever have that 00:13:36.102 --> 00:13:43.543 - use again, because if we budget zero, the line goes away, right? Which is why we've got the $1 equipment, 00:13:43.543 --> 00:13:50.773 - $1 vehicle purchase and South Rogers drainage improvement at $1. Yes, because that's going to be a new 00:13:50.773 --> 00:13:56.670 - project. So we have a seed mulch compost plantings line. OK, that can kind of work. 00:13:57.026 --> 00:14:04.638 - I've done that with my budget and just have operational supplies versus itemizing each individual. So 00:14:04.638 --> 00:14:12.101 - we solved your mystery. Yes. And then I did want to make one other note. Our professional fees line 00:14:12.101 --> 00:14:19.937 - for 2026 had been increased because we anticipated moving forward more quickly with our long range plan. 00:14:19.937 --> 00:14:26.430 - So most of those costs for that will be incurred in 2027. Could I? There was a second. 00:14:26.562 --> 00:14:33.037 - a motion to approve in a second. Could I call that to question and could you proceed to the roll call 00:14:33.037 --> 00:14:39.766 - real quick? Yes, we'll do a roll call vote. Commissioner Thomas? Yes. Commissioner Madeira? Yes. Surveyor 00:14:39.766 --> 00:14:46.178 - Enright-Randolph? Yes. Thank you. Now you can go. Thank you. Thank you so much. You got it all? Yes. 00:14:46.178 --> 00:14:52.527 - Thank you for those points. I think that too that we can, depending on the outcome of that vote, we 00:14:52.527 --> 00:14:54.558 - can always revisit these items. 00:14:55.042 --> 00:15:03.231 - I think our budget is really healthy. Don't forget your water. And. No, thank you so much and thank 00:15:03.231 --> 00:15:11.749 - you. Sorry that I have to know you're good. We're all set. Thank you for moving it. We need to get this 00:15:11.749 --> 00:15:20.184 - done. It's the deadlines. Yeah, so this was our last chance. Thank you. Thank you. You too. Good luck. 00:15:20.184 --> 00:15:24.606 - So do you do you want to talk about the South Rogers? 00:15:24.930 --> 00:15:34.175 - a bit. Yes, so our South Rogers drainage improvements project that will be in the neighborhoods south 00:15:34.175 --> 00:15:43.329 - of Rogers and Country Club on the west side. So it's that green lab fairway. So it's kind of a three 00:15:43.329 --> 00:15:52.030 - phase project where that area is phase three. And so we're having some redesign of the drainage 00:15:52.194 --> 00:15:59.444 - and minor redesign of the drainage in that area. We anticipate our crew being able to complete that 00:15:59.444 --> 00:16:06.911 - work in next summer or early fall. And then phases one and two are just south of that, Tyler Court and 00:16:06.911 --> 00:16:14.306 - Tulip. There's a strange drainage path through that corner lot right there that then goes under Tulip 00:16:14.306 --> 00:16:21.918 - and into an HOA managed detention basin. So all of that then drains down behind that and into some homes 00:16:22.146 --> 00:16:29.205 - on San Juan Drive. And so all of this is an effort to not only improve the drainage in that area, but 00:16:29.205 --> 00:16:36.402 - also reduce some of the outflow to those homes as they've experienced flooding after major rain events. 00:16:36.402 --> 00:16:43.323 - So we are looking at the redesign to increase storage capacity of both of that swale, internal, and 00:16:43.323 --> 00:16:50.174 - some of the infrastructure, and then working with the HOA on improvements to that detention basin. 00:16:50.274 --> 00:16:57.295 - Silted in over time, the orifices are quite large, so they need to be reduced. And then modifying the 00:16:57.295 --> 00:17:04.316 - top of the structure so that when it does overtop, it doesn't become completely blocked. So modifying 00:17:04.316 --> 00:17:11.475 - that great structure. OK. So you're saying our crew can do all this? The crew would be the north phase. 00:17:11.475 --> 00:17:18.014 - And then the other phase one and two are interconnected. And they would be contracted out. OK. 00:17:18.626 --> 00:17:27.503 - we're doing phase three first then phase two and phase one. Well, phase three is just separate, but 00:17:27.503 --> 00:17:35.848 - it's being designed at the same time. Got it. Got it. That's where I was going next. Perfect. 00:17:35.848 --> 00:17:44.991 - That's it. Good. Anything else to talk about on the budget? No. Not so much. Just maybe hopefully with 00:17:44.991 --> 00:17:48.542 - our long range plan, maybe we'll find a 00:17:48.642 --> 00:17:58.315 - we could eliminate some of these costs in the software area where. Be redundant, but we're not going 00:17:58.315 --> 00:18:07.893 - to be there any time soon, so it's just maybe hopefully in four or five years we could kind of help 00:18:07.893 --> 00:18:17.470 - reduce some of those costs. That's it. The cartograph cost is our shine. Oh, if it ever gets there, 00:18:17.634 --> 00:18:27.071 - we'll see. Um, but. Yes, I was being cryptic for a reason because until we have a good path forward, 00:18:27.071 --> 00:18:36.695 - we're not just where everyone's on board. Yeah, because it's a shared cost, right? It's a shared cost, 00:18:36.695 --> 00:18:45.758 - but the technology is also like ESRI enterprise. Yeah, a product which we have separately, which 00:18:46.402 --> 00:18:54.787 - So anything we could do to offset some of those costs. So I just like to pick on that every year. And 00:18:54.787 --> 00:19:03.173 - just so you know, to bring the contract, if you have a contract ready, we need to see it again at the 00:19:03.173 --> 00:19:11.476 - commissioner's meeting, the Blue Stone? Yeah. Can you bring it physically with you tomorrow and come 00:19:11.476 --> 00:19:15.422 - to the meeting and we'll add you to the agenda? 00:19:15.842 --> 00:19:25.565 - I have to go to council first. The way that the grant funds are appropriated, I have to take it to council. 00:19:25.565 --> 00:19:34.928 - Because we're going to be out after this week, we're off two weeks. Yes. We're just having claims only. 00:19:34.928 --> 00:19:43.390 - That's fine. Just one thing. Next month or not next month, but August, I have a conflict with 00:19:44.546 --> 00:19:56.104 - meeting so maybe if we're able to find another day like it takes the three of us to have enough to make 00:19:56.104 --> 00:20:07.328 - a decision if there's nothing that needs act on we could even but I will be going to drainage school 00:20:07.328 --> 00:20:09.662 - so I so I think that 00:20:13.122 --> 00:20:21.957 - sessions for the council or is that in September now? The the budget work sessions are those in September 00:20:21.957 --> 00:20:29.959 - start first week of September. OK, so we could probably. If if you felt like we needed to meet. 00:20:29.959 --> 00:20:38.544 - We could do. Are you looking at it? Yep. So we had I'm thinking we could do the 19th since we couldn't 00:20:38.544 --> 00:20:42.878 - do September. We couldn't delay the meeting a week. 00:20:43.042 --> 00:20:51.591 - because of those work sessions. If that helps, maybe the 19th would work. I'll look at my calendar right 00:20:51.591 --> 00:20:59.977 - now. I can't think of any other commitments. I have no idea what's on my count. I can send a follow-up 00:20:59.977 --> 00:21:08.118 - email to coordinate with you guys to make sure that the 19th will work. If you feel like we need to 00:21:08.118 --> 00:21:10.398 - meet, then we should. Okay. 00:21:11.170 --> 00:21:18.324 - and we'll do the public notice to make sure that it's updated on the county calendar and everything. 00:21:18.324 --> 00:21:25.550 - I just wanted to give you a heads up. They just sent out the dates for the journey school and I think 00:21:25.550 --> 00:21:32.704 - I think Commissioner Madeira. They have a conflict on Wednesdays coming up, so yeah, because classes 00:21:32.704 --> 00:21:38.654 - do start that week on the 24th, so so I and law school starts before everyone else. 00:21:38.786 --> 00:21:46.517 - She may not. Yeah, so she may not be available. So yeah, send an email if you would. Sorry, that's fine. 00:21:46.517 --> 00:21:54.394 - I have a hard enough time with my own schedule. I can't manage others. Well, I mean, do we just understand 00:21:54.394 --> 00:22:02.051 - update? I have just a couple of updates. So I have provided two letters of support to the SWCD for some 00:22:02.051 --> 00:22:04.702 - of their efforts. The first one is. 00:22:05.090 --> 00:22:10.691 - for Bean Blossom Creek Watershed Management Plan 319 grant funding. Deadline hasn't passed. I was meaning 00:22:10.691 --> 00:22:16.186 - to do one, but I would vacation and getting back to the office. Double check with Martha. I don't think 00:22:16.186 --> 00:22:21.628 - the deadline has passed just yet. Okay, I'm so glad you're with me. A repeat of our letter that we had 00:22:21.628 --> 00:22:26.014 - sent last year. They're reapplying because they did not receive funding last year. 00:22:26.114 --> 00:22:32.273 - So they're reapplying and so this was an updated letter for that. The second letter of support was for 00:22:32.273 --> 00:22:38.312 - the Clean Water Indiana grant to provide additional funding for an education coordinator. We already 00:22:38.312 --> 00:22:44.709 - provide them commit to $5,000 each summer for a summer intern. Martha and I have been having conversations 00:22:44.709 --> 00:22:50.270 - about what that position could really do and grow into and so this would be no change in our 00:22:50.402 --> 00:22:55.742 - our current financial commitment, it would just be amplified by receiving the grant funding to make 00:22:55.742 --> 00:23:01.242 - it a little bit more year round so that they could get into the classroom and have curriculum. I'm not 00:23:01.242 --> 00:23:06.582 - gonna use the word curriculum, I just thought that was wrong, but to use programming that meets the 00:23:06.582 --> 00:23:11.548 - state education requirements to really supplement what teachers are doing in the classrooms. 00:23:11.548 --> 00:23:13.150 - That's cool. So there's that. 00:23:13.314 --> 00:23:20.147 - And then our long-range plan, we are making progress on selecting a firm. And I hope to be able to bring 00:23:20.147 --> 00:23:26.655 - that to you in August, though if we're pushed ahead a week, we might not be able to bring it to you 00:23:26.655 --> 00:23:33.292 - until September. Yeah. We'll see what that looks like. OK. They end at 3 o'clock. It's an hour drive. 00:23:33.292 --> 00:23:38.238 - So if we wanted to push it back the same day, I could be back in town by 5. 00:23:38.978 --> 00:23:50.116 - I don't think there are other meetings here, but I'm sure so we'd have to check on that. But I will 00:23:50.116 --> 00:24:01.477 - look at all our options and send them to you. OK, so either the 20. What is it? The 626 after five or 00:24:01.477 --> 00:24:08.382 - the 19th? OK. Thank you so much. Thanks for your flexibility. 00:24:08.546 --> 00:24:20.229 - you. Absolutely Thank you. Just make one quick comment. Um I just wanted to applaud, uh, the stormwater 00:24:20.229 --> 00:24:28.318 - team and especially our project manager with, um. Wrangling, uh, things 00:24:28.546 --> 00:24:36.642 - that we've been receiving. There's a lot of goals and initiatives. There's a lot of work behind that, 00:24:36.642 --> 00:24:44.896 - and I just wanted to express my gratitude and also express the gratitude for all of the folks that had, 00:24:44.896 --> 00:24:53.389 - uh, volunteered or voluntold or get paid. Why are there there to go through it? A bunch of the information 00:24:53.389 --> 00:24:57.278 - that we've been receiving that we have two folks 00:24:57.762 --> 00:25:07.326 - at least go on record thanking them for their time. Thank you. We're adjourned.