WEBVTT 00:00:01.250 --> 00:00:09.443 - I called the meeting to order the commission to serve in an advisor role to assist residents, businesses, 00:00:09.443 --> 00:00:17.250 - and the government of Monroe County in addressing issues of gender equity. The mission is to advance 00:00:17.250 --> 00:00:24.979 - the status of women and marginalized genders in all areas of county life. The first item is minutes 00:00:24.979 --> 00:00:29.694 - from May, but we do not have those. So then we will move on. 00:00:29.922 --> 00:00:40.516 - to Commissioner updates. I don't know, because if you're actually, because you're proxy, if we proxy 00:00:40.516 --> 00:00:51.529 - for, I don't know if there's a rule. Just for the record. For the record. So back is sitting in as proxy 00:00:51.529 --> 00:00:59.710 - for Commissioner Eve Yarrow. Okay, and then so we'll do Commissioner updates. 00:01:01.506 --> 00:01:10.349 - mission or auto you have any generalized updates not covered I mean business they don't believe so except 00:01:10.349 --> 00:01:18.858 - to bring to their conversation what was just passed regarding grant funding towards women and that it 00:01:18.858 --> 00:01:26.366 - might be something we want to look at and I think we have a contact in the small business 00:01:30.274 --> 00:01:40.963 - It just happened this week. I haven't had time to look at it, but just to get it on the record as it 00:01:40.963 --> 00:01:51.546 - happened. Because it's discriminatory. Oh, interesting. Wait to hear more about that. Anything else 00:01:51.546 --> 00:01:56.414 - you would like to share? Commissioner Hinkle. 00:01:57.282 --> 00:02:09.312 - Thank you. I am happy to be here finally after a couple months Get kicked out I Was online sometime 00:02:09.312 --> 00:02:11.838 - anyway, no one cares 00:02:12.002 --> 00:02:19.713 - I wanted to let you know that the ACLU of Indiana is hosting an event on Saturday the 18th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. 00:02:19.713 --> 00:02:26.673 - here on the square to talk about elections, voting. There's going to be information. There's going to 00:02:26.673 --> 00:02:33.974 - be a sidewalk talk. That's what's being said and potentially food trucks. So I just wanted to let everyone 00:02:33.974 --> 00:02:35.134 - know about that. 00:02:36.066 --> 00:02:45.733 - I also wanted to let everyone know that I recently resigned from Hoosier Asian American Power. The reason 00:02:45.733 --> 00:02:48.286 - being is it's me, not them. 00:02:48.962 --> 00:02:57.136 - You know, when you break up, it's not you, it's me. Just, you know, the work being done was not in alignment 00:02:57.136 --> 00:03:04.709 - with the work that I want to do in terms of more intersectional work, more grassroots oriented work. 00:03:04.709 --> 00:03:12.208 - And, you know, so they still do great work. There's work for everybody to do, you know, in terms of 00:03:12.208 --> 00:03:17.982 - the state, you know, looking after the state of Indiana for Asian Americans. 00:03:18.178 --> 00:03:32.000 - Um, interacting with the legislature, et cetera. So I just wanted to update everyone on that. I'm going 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:42.366 - to skip you unless you have any updates. I do not have any updates. I do not. 00:03:42.594 --> 00:03:49.683 - Hello. I don't have any updates real specific to the Women's Commission. The Freedom Schools Steering 00:03:49.683 --> 00:03:56.771 - Committee is continuing their work. We tabled it Juneteenth and got a lot of really great ideas about 00:03:56.771 --> 00:04:04.069 - topics, particularly for middle school age, which is the group that we're trying to focus on for a pilot 00:04:04.069 --> 00:04:08.030 - program this fall. And we're continuing to look into how 00:04:08.226 --> 00:04:18.058 - what a curriculum for a freedom school program here in Monroe County might look like, and that's continuing 00:04:18.058 --> 00:04:27.434 - to shape up. Lovely. Councilman Decker, do you have any updates you'd like to share to the commission? 00:04:27.434 --> 00:04:36.538 - I don't, I don't. Commissioner Madera, do you have any updates you'd like to share with the Women's 00:04:36.538 --> 00:04:37.630 - Commission? 00:04:37.922 --> 00:04:46.916 - I know, other than we are working with that wonderful class and it is going swimmingly. Yeah. I believe 00:04:46.916 --> 00:04:55.650 - so. You'll see the presentation here a little bit. Yes, absolutely. I'm excited for that. Me too. My 00:04:55.650 --> 00:05:04.557 - update is nothing super important. I mean, I just thought it was very interesting about now dissolving 00:05:04.557 --> 00:05:05.854 - in the county. 00:05:05.986 --> 00:05:12.429 - the chapter for Monroe County National Organization of Women. I just thought it was interesting, just 00:05:12.429 --> 00:05:18.810 - made this work even, I don't know, I mean, they should work alongside each other, but more important 00:05:18.810 --> 00:05:25.190 - in a lot of ways that now we don't have, you know, that kind of a watch. We get to be that too. So I 00:05:25.190 --> 00:05:28.222 - don't know, I just thought it was worth noting. 00:05:30.146 --> 00:05:37.376 - We will go into old and ongoing business. We have the policy committee with commissioners Hardesty, 00:05:37.376 --> 00:05:44.679 - Douglas and Yaro. We have updates for. We haven't. I don't know that we've actually met for a couple 00:05:44.679 --> 00:05:52.054 - of a couple of months. Maybe there's been some. I think the last time I have notes is the end of May. 00:05:52.054 --> 00:05:59.646 - So I'm not sure if we had a meeting as a women's commission and I reported on that, but it's essentially 00:05:59.778 --> 00:06:06.001 - Um, the, having the discussion about the jail site decision came out of the discussion that we were 00:06:06.001 --> 00:06:12.285 - having as a policy subcommittee about looking at the gender equity rubric, considering that in terms 00:06:12.285 --> 00:06:18.819 - of the jail site decision and that sort of thing. And we thought this would be a good, a good discussion 00:06:18.819 --> 00:06:24.544 - for the women's commission to have in general, not just the subcommittee. So, and I want to 00:06:24.544 --> 00:06:27.966 - take responsibility for the reason why we haven't met. 00:06:28.130 --> 00:06:38.278 - take full accountability responsibility for that, because we have a new job, we being me. And so we 00:06:38.278 --> 00:06:48.527 - never know when clients are going to be unwell and need a little bit more attention. But I have been 00:06:48.527 --> 00:06:55.326 - thinking about it, that potentially the gender equity rubric might 00:06:56.002 --> 00:07:04.343 - I'm not sure if it might be useful in the selection of the jail site, but when we get down to maybe 00:07:04.343 --> 00:07:12.852 - some new policies or new procedures or whatnot that need to happen because of whatever configuration, 00:07:12.852 --> 00:07:21.360 - I think maybe that might be the time. One thing, though, that I think that we can look at or at least 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.446 - continue to be aware of is the site. 00:07:24.674 --> 00:07:35.112 - Because what does that mean then for women? What does that mean who are typically mothers who have potential 00:07:35.112 --> 00:07:44.880 - partners potentially in the jail? What does that mean for them in terms of the location? What does it 00:07:44.880 --> 00:07:52.254 - mean for mothers to be in jail in terms of their children or their families? 00:07:52.386 --> 00:08:00.681 - Um, in terms of the site selection, right? So I think like at this point that that's my opinion in terms 00:08:00.681 --> 00:08:08.580 - of what we could potentially look at, um, at this point in time. And then I think the gender equity 00:08:08.580 --> 00:08:16.638 - rubric could be useful for those, the creation or the review of policies and procedures pertaining to 00:08:17.250 --> 00:08:26.635 - Is it? Yes. Yes. I looked at the rubric and I was like, oh, this isn't going to work for trying to pick 00:08:26.635 --> 00:08:36.021 - out a site, but we want to be helpful. You know, what about me? Go ahead. I shared an article with you. 00:08:36.021 --> 00:08:45.406 - There were two school of public health researchers that did an inventory of all Indiana jails and their 00:08:45.666 --> 00:08:54.792 - if they had policies on the books for prenatal care, postpartum care, birthing, what they said about 00:08:54.792 --> 00:09:04.098 - their protocols for all of those things. So I sent it through LinkedIn. But I think that would be good 00:09:04.098 --> 00:09:08.254 - too. The researcher's name is Ricky Camplane. 00:09:09.186 --> 00:09:15.489 - So I can resend it to you as well. So it was just it was just published and it's really interesting. 00:09:15.489 --> 00:09:21.980 - So thank you. That'd be a good resource. Is that county jails or is that State Department of Correction 00:09:21.980 --> 00:09:28.346 - jails? Because there will be two different policies that apply to each of those. I'm not sure if they 00:09:28.346 --> 00:09:34.462 - did both or if it's just one. I'll send the article. If it's a if it's a Department of Correction 00:09:35.010 --> 00:09:41.777 - If it looks at state department correction policies, it will be inapplicable to our jail. I think it 00:09:41.777 --> 00:09:48.678 - was county, because I remember saying 92 county jails. Oh, that would be great. Yeah. Yeah, that would 00:09:48.678 --> 00:09:55.444 - be wonderful. Yeah. And so for the record, the important record of the Women's Commission, I want to 00:09:55.444 --> 00:10:02.345 - recognize Kathleen Sobiak as a former commissioner who actually started working on the creation of the 00:10:02.345 --> 00:10:04.958 - gender equity rubric with Julie and I. 00:10:05.090 --> 00:10:18.034 - It's good to know people are still sending things through LinkedIn. Thank you. That's the best meeting 00:10:18.034 --> 00:10:31.230 - I've had all day. Let's go. Oh, it's on LinkedIn. I can do Facebook or email. I haven't read the latest. 00:10:31.362 --> 00:10:39.286 - lawsuit or any of that stuff does that or even right now how they have move participant you know inmates 00:10:39.286 --> 00:10:46.907 - out of the jail because of overcrowding and stuff and I don't know even if looking at the lawsuit in 00:10:46.907 --> 00:10:54.529 - regards to the rubric would be anything worth anything of value in that because I have never read it 00:10:54.529 --> 00:10:58.302 - so I don't know what it says if it addresses just 00:11:00.322 --> 00:11:06.114 - what it's addressing, I guess, in general. I mean, you could probably speak more about this, but it's 00:11:06.114 --> 00:11:11.792 - dealing with overcrowding. And I don't know that it ever discusses anything that's gender-specific, 00:11:11.792 --> 00:11:17.697 - like issues that women are facing in an overcrowded jail. But that's the problem. Yeah, or marginalized 00:11:17.697 --> 00:11:23.375 - genders, issues that they're facing in an overcrowded jail. And that's the problem. Is that they're 00:11:23.375 --> 00:11:26.782 - not? Yeah, because if they're not addressing it and they're 00:11:27.170 --> 00:11:38.291 - marginalized populations within a marginalized population, then that gap is a problem. Somebody experiencing, 00:11:38.291 --> 00:11:48.906 - if they're addicted to substances and they're not receiving medication, that's a marginalized population 00:11:48.906 --> 00:11:56.286 - within your population. So if they're just breaking it down by subgroup, 00:11:57.762 --> 00:12:04.766 - you know, issues and like acute matters and healthcare matters that that is not in there, I think. 00:12:04.766 --> 00:12:12.052 - I mean, it matters that it's not in the lawsuit, that it is not, I mean, is there any course of action 00:12:12.052 --> 00:12:19.339 - to discuss with the ACLU to, I mean, it's too late now, right? I mean, I don't know anything about how 00:12:19.339 --> 00:12:26.413 - that lawsuit is or, you know, could get amended or, I don't know how that works, but I didn't go to 00:12:26.413 --> 00:12:27.262 - law school. 00:12:27.714 --> 00:12:36.369 - like some of us. Thank you for that, Kathleen. I mean, that's pretty spot on in terms of the lack of 00:12:36.369 --> 00:12:45.023 - information. But anyway. What would you like me to comment on first? Whatever you want. I would like 00:12:45.023 --> 00:12:53.592 - you to comment on, I mean, have you read the, that seems like a silly question, the recent lawsuit? 00:12:53.592 --> 00:12:57.534 - Is it generalized as a population as a whole? 00:12:57.634 --> 00:13:05.439 - Yes, although it's a class action. And so the two members of the class that are representative, 00:13:05.439 --> 00:13:13.650 - quote unquote, are male. And it's unclear what the court will certify in terms of class. And so that 00:13:13.650 --> 00:13:21.374 - is a matter for the court. I will say, too, that as to the needs to classify women in prisons, 00:13:22.114 --> 00:13:29.140 - I would just draw attention to the special needs to classify subpopulations of that, including trans 00:13:29.140 --> 00:13:36.513 - women. That is an area of special concern, I believe, as well. And so it can actually get quite specific. 00:13:36.513 --> 00:13:43.539 - And of course, the specialized medical needs, when we sometimes have in our county jails drastically 00:13:43.539 --> 00:13:50.078 - reduced medical care, in some cases only a nurse available for a few hours each day. So yeah. 00:13:50.530 --> 00:13:59.744 - And that's not in our jail here. We have a much more robust medical treatment program, but in our county 00:13:59.744 --> 00:14:08.694 - jails, again, if we're looking at all 92 counties, that's a paucity. Oh, interesting. But I know that 00:14:08.694 --> 00:14:17.118 - if you read the complaint, which is available online now, I believe it was posted this weekend. 00:14:17.218 --> 00:14:26.589 - to Bloom Docs, it does not really focus on medical care as an area of provision, or as a claim, necessarily. 00:14:26.589 --> 00:14:35.531 - Yeah, I didn't see that. I just want to add, I'm not a legal expert, so that was me more as just public 00:14:35.531 --> 00:14:44.214 - health, so I just want to add that for the record. I was out of my realm to speak to legal matters a 00:14:44.214 --> 00:14:45.246 - little bit, 00:14:46.594 --> 00:14:56.899 - Yeah, no, I think you were speaking entirely to public health. OK. Yeah. Yeah. But issues of public 00:14:56.899 --> 00:15:07.306 - health and I think how you classify often overlap because how you classify prisoners, of course, you 00:15:07.306 --> 00:15:15.550 - classify to further issues of public health. OK. Anything else from the policy? 00:15:16.450 --> 00:15:26.761 - committee. Does it like to know our old business anyway? I do. Because Eve Yaro is part of the policy 00:15:26.761 --> 00:15:36.972 - subcommittee. I do want to extend our condolences to her in the passing of her girlfriend. Yeah. Oh, 00:15:36.972 --> 00:15:44.958 - not that. Just a couple of days ago. That's why she's been absent quite a bit. 00:15:45.314 --> 00:16:00.116 - Her girlfriend is not local and so she's trying to work and attend to it was she was diagnosed with 00:16:00.116 --> 00:16:14.622 - cancer like four four months ago and Just passed away a couple a few days ago. Yeah I am going to 00:16:15.778 --> 00:16:22.247 - Okay, so for the data subcommittee, if that's, can we move on from that, is I do want to talk about 00:16:22.247 --> 00:16:28.975 - the project that we've been working on, and we do have a presentation from the class. I just, everybody 00:16:28.975 --> 00:16:35.445 - that doesn't know, so last, I mean, it's so funny, because it seemed like that was forever ago, and 00:16:35.445 --> 00:16:42.237 - how fast time comes. You know, the Blue Team Commission for the Status on Women had a report a few years 00:16:42.237 --> 00:16:45.278 - ago based on this class with Professor Hensel. 00:16:45.730 --> 00:16:53.060 - And I reached out to the professor last year asking about if they were ever interested in doing a project 00:16:53.060 --> 00:17:00.044 - for the county. That would be lovely, you know, to have. I do personally like working with students. 00:17:00.044 --> 00:17:07.166 - I like, you know, also free labor. You know, it's a great exchange of, well, I mean, you know, they're 00:17:07.166 --> 00:17:14.565 - doing the work. Well, it's not free because they're, anyway. So I've really enjoyed working on the project 00:17:14.565 --> 00:17:15.326 - with them. 00:17:18.338 --> 00:17:27.620 - been a great experience. The only, now I'll say that comment, but yeah, I think considering the timeframe, 00:17:27.620 --> 00:17:36.382 - I think the outcomes will be interesting to see. I have not seen the presentation. It just got to me 00:17:36.382 --> 00:17:45.318 - about two hours ago. So do you want to say anything about the class? No, I think it's going to be very 00:17:45.318 --> 00:17:48.094 - interesting too, because we are 00:17:48.354 --> 00:17:54.936 - you know, sort of doing this using latest technological tools. But only from the perspective of what 00:17:54.936 --> 00:18:01.584 - data we get, but also how that relates to past data. Yes. Well, I will say, I'll just say that I know 00:18:01.584 --> 00:18:07.971 - one of the outcomes that they've talked about or one of the limitations was the short turnaround. 00:18:07.971 --> 00:18:14.814 - I mean, literally, you know, I had a few weeks to collect data. We are keeping the survey open and we'll 00:18:14.814 --> 00:18:16.574 - continue to promote it and 00:18:16.930 --> 00:18:26.721 - will work on gathering and adding that data to the existing data already because there's no reason to 00:18:26.721 --> 00:18:36.511 - shut it down right away since that. So we're going to keep it open. And Professor Henshaw has offered 00:18:36.511 --> 00:18:46.494 - to assist me or us in any way possible if we need to work on the data. So they recorded a presentation. 00:18:46.850 --> 00:18:52.990 - And they shared it with me. And then I am going to. 00:19:37.858 --> 00:19:51.058 - You want to do this for me? Does anybody know how to do this? What are you trying to do? Share that 00:19:51.058 --> 00:20:04.390 - present. Oh, there it is. Okay. You just had to say the word share and then you can find the button. 00:20:04.390 --> 00:20:06.238 - Do it for me. 00:20:07.010 --> 00:20:12.638 - So this is their presentation. We were all watching it for the first time. 00:20:35.650 --> 00:20:46.308 - How do I get the sound to go through there? Does anybody know? You guys know how I get the sound through 00:20:46.308 --> 00:20:56.560 - the chair? It should be coming from my computer, but I was giving feedback. Do you need to like hold 00:20:56.560 --> 00:21:05.086 - the mute button on your microphone while it's doing that so you don't get feedback? 00:21:07.170 --> 00:21:07.550 - Thank you very much. 00:22:07.810 --> 00:22:21.890 - added to the meeting so everyone can hear them. What? We have them call into the meeting so everyone 00:22:21.890 --> 00:22:35.134 - can hear them. I know, I don't know. It's coming through my computer, but it's not picking up. 00:22:38.338 --> 00:23:06.974 - We would have to give the recording to TSD, I think. 00:23:11.394 --> 00:23:41.310 - Do we need to try this next meeting? Do you have any thoughts? Upstairs. Do you have a meeting? 00:24:04.194 --> 00:24:17.050 - You have to join with sound or something like that Share and you click yeah, you have to join indicate 00:24:17.050 --> 00:24:19.422 - that you want this 00:24:45.954 --> 00:25:13.310 - Let's just do it next time, like troubleshoot prior and we'll do it next time. 00:25:18.754 --> 00:25:27.645 - You also stable long term housing. There's also women's and maternal. Luis and myself, Santiago, this 00:25:27.645 --> 00:25:36.797 - project used service. Mapping and data analysis to identify challenges and resource gaps affecting women 00:25:36.797 --> 00:25:38.366 - in Monroe County. 00:25:38.946 --> 00:25:46.098 - Preliminarily, findings are being used to support recommendations for local leaders, while data collection 00:25:46.098 --> 00:25:52.848 - will continue to be collected through the fall of 2026. So I'll talk about the project framework and 00:25:52.848 --> 00:26:00.134 - methodology. So overall, the purpose of this project or this capstone was to aid Monroe County commissioners 00:26:00.134 --> 00:26:07.486 - in creating policy that improves the status, security, and sustainability for women throughout Monroe County. 00:26:07.906 --> 00:26:15.242 - So, our main questions were, what is the current status of women across our county, Indiana, and to 00:26:15.242 --> 00:26:23.092 - form a perspective of sustainability, gender-related concerns, and equity given the recent dynamic changes 00:26:23.092 --> 00:26:30.648 - in climate politics, infrastructure, and funding around the state and specifically the county. So, the 00:26:30.648 --> 00:26:35.710 - social political climate has been affecting women around the county. 00:26:35.842 --> 00:26:41.845 - So affordable housing is an issue because there is limited affordable housing, especially affecting 00:26:41.845 --> 00:26:47.967 - low income women, single mothers and women living in unsafe homes. And there's also domestic violence 00:26:47.967 --> 00:26:54.090 - and safe housing. Some survivors may be facing limited access to emergency shelter, legal support and 00:26:54.090 --> 00:27:00.573 - stable long-term housing. There's also women's and maternal health. So there's a lack of access to prenatal 00:27:00.573 --> 00:27:02.974 - postpartum and reproductive healthcare. 00:27:04.066 --> 00:27:10.880 - And this remains to be an issue around the state as there's also an abortion ban in the state of Indiana 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:17.953 - with limited exceptions, restricting reproductive health care options for women. The population is something 00:27:17.953 --> 00:27:24.572 - very important around the survey because we targeted the population of any adult that was 18 or older 00:27:24.572 --> 00:27:31.192 - in the state of Indiana, specifically Monroe County. And the survey focused on experiences, needs and 00:27:31.192 --> 00:27:33.982 - wellbeing of women as well as families and 00:27:34.338 --> 00:27:41.449 - gender diverse individuals. There was also open participation from anyone who was a resident of Monroe 00:27:41.449 --> 00:27:48.561 - County and we had inclusive outreach. The responses were residents across Bloomington as well as rural 00:27:48.561 --> 00:27:55.948 - areas and unincorporated areas of the Monroe County. The priority populations were LGBTQ plus individuals, 00:27:55.948 --> 00:28:03.198 - people with disabilities, immigrants, caregivers, veterans, rural residents and lower income households. 00:28:03.810 --> 00:28:12.015 - and the population size was 139,718. So participants were recruited through community organizations, 00:28:12.015 --> 00:28:20.544 - social media, email, paper surveys, and QR code scanning rather than random selection. And this approach 00:28:20.544 --> 00:28:27.774 - increased outreach, but it did limit representativeness and it generalized our findings. 00:28:37.154 --> 00:28:45.760 - For the sample size, we used a crosshands formula. So based on the county's population, our sample size 00:28:45.760 --> 00:28:54.862 - was about 384 respondents. Although we have a statistical target, we recruited, although we had a statistical 00:28:54.862 --> 00:29:00.158 - target, the way we recruited participants is equally important. 00:29:01.026 --> 00:29:12.689 - Rather than randomly selecting resident, we use convenience sampling to reach as many people as possible 00:29:12.689 --> 00:29:23.797 - through existing community networks. Oh, this slide before that. Oh, sorry. Yeah, that one. When it 00:29:23.797 --> 00:29:30.462 - comes to the study design, we use a cross sectional design. 00:29:30.722 --> 00:29:37.530 - meaning it was non-experimental but also quantitative. The study consisted primarily of questions which 00:29:37.530 --> 00:29:44.076 - allowed respondents to rate their level of agreement of concern. We also included a free open-ended 00:29:44.076 --> 00:29:50.687 - question so a participant could share experiences that structured questions might not have captured. 00:29:50.687 --> 00:29:57.429 - Ultimately, the goal was just to collect data. It wasn't just to collect data, it was also to generate 00:29:57.429 --> 00:29:59.262 - evidence that we can inform 00:29:59.458 --> 00:30:11.756 - recommendations for the Monroe County Women's Commission. When it comes to comparison of the GIS analysis 00:30:11.756 --> 00:30:23.358 - survey and climate action plan, the GIS map helps us to identify where women and all the vulnerable 00:30:23.358 --> 00:30:25.214 - populations are 00:30:25.314 --> 00:30:32.251 - concentrated throughout Mineral County. Survey helped explain what those residents are experiencing, 00:30:32.251 --> 00:30:39.395 - including their challenges related to housing, healthcare, transportation, caregiving responsibilities, 00:30:39.395 --> 00:30:46.539 - discrimination and disabilities, LBG plus inclusion and extreme weather. The Mineral County action plan 00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:53.407 - helped us to understand what strategies county has already identified for addressing public health, 00:30:53.407 --> 00:30:55.262 - transportation and equity. 00:30:56.034 --> 00:31:03.697 - Looking at these sources together, we gave us a more complete picture other than only looking at one 00:31:03.697 --> 00:31:11.588 - source. Overall, these tools help support equitable data-driven recommendation to help ensure resources 00:31:11.588 --> 00:31:15.230 - are directed to the communities that need them. 00:31:29.602 --> 00:31:36.933 - our primary goal was to develop a survey that was both evidence-based and tailored to the needs of Moro 00:31:36.933 --> 00:31:44.052 - County. So rather than starting from scratch, we built upon the validated 2022 Bloomington Status of 00:31:44.052 --> 00:31:51.806 - Women survey and expanded it to better reflect the Moro County Women's Commission's priority. We incorporated 00:31:51.806 --> 00:31:57.374 - new demographic variables to better understand the experiences of historically 00:31:57.538 --> 00:32:04.600 - unidentified population, including LGBTQ communities, people with disability, caregivers, immigrants, 00:32:04.600 --> 00:32:12.008 - population, veterans, and rural residents. We also added new assessment areas such as housing, healthcare, 00:32:12.008 --> 00:32:18.931 - climate resilience, and civil engagement to provide the commission with more comprehensive data for 00:32:18.931 --> 00:32:26.270 - future policy and planning decisions. After developing a survey that reflected the commission's priority, 00:32:26.434 --> 00:32:34.841 - Our next focus was to ensure, was ensuring it reached as many Moro County residents as possible through 00:32:34.841 --> 00:32:42.924 - a diverse and intentional distribution strategy. So to maximize participation and reduce a diverse, 00:32:42.924 --> 00:32:46.238 - enrich a diverse cross-sectional, sorry. 00:32:46.786 --> 00:32:54.241 - Cross section of moral county residents, we implemented a multi channel distribution strategy. We partnered 00:32:54.241 --> 00:33:01.559 - with community organizations to share the survey through their networks, distributed flyers and libraries 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.734 - and farmers market and leverage social media. 00:33:04.898 --> 00:33:11.947 - and personal and professional network to broaden awareness. Throughout the data collection period, we 00:33:11.947 --> 00:33:18.927 - monitor survey responses in quadrigs and identify population trend and adjust our outreach effort in 00:33:18.927 --> 00:33:25.977 - real time to improve representation across county. So this slide establishes the demographic baseline 00:33:25.977 --> 00:33:32.542 - for our initial 37 respondents. First, we see strong community tenure with 70% of respondents. 00:33:32.674 --> 00:33:40.179 - Living in Monroe County for more than 11 years, 40% have been here for over 2 decades and demographically 00:33:40.179 --> 00:33:47.260 - 87% identify as female and 83% fall between the ages of 25 and 54. Geographically 74% reside within 00:33:47.260 --> 00:33:54.270 - Bloomington and the remaining 30% are split between rural areas surrounding towns like Ellisville. 00:33:54.690 --> 00:34:02.393 - Socioeconomically, this is a relatively stable cohort. 45% report household incomes exceeding 100K and 00:34:02.393 --> 00:34:09.873 - 42% are between 50 and 99,000. And additionally, we have captured diverse lived experiences. 24% of 00:34:09.873 --> 00:34:17.501 - participants identify as neurodivergent, 14% manage a mental health condition and 10% service on paid 00:34:17.501 --> 00:34:24.382 - caregivers. This profile is crucial as it provides a stark contrast to the daily challenges 00:34:24.514 --> 00:34:31.420 - and resource gaps we see on the next slide. So this slide details how respondents interact with local 00:34:31.420 --> 00:34:38.325 - resources and civic systems. First, healthcare shows a clear disparity. So 83% have reliable physical 00:34:38.325 --> 00:34:45.366 - care access, but that drops to 52% for mental health. For housing, while 64% can personally afford safe 00:34:45.366 --> 00:34:50.782 - housing, only 7% believe affordable options are generally available countywide. 00:34:50.978 --> 00:34:59.164 - And additionally, 59% report utility-driven financial distress. Regarding climate, 55% are disrupted 00:34:59.164 --> 00:35:07.998 - by extreme weather in their daily lives. Finally, civic engagement is low, only 46% know how to participate. 00:35:07.998 --> 00:35:16.509 - 35% believe their voice matters and 28% feel represented by county leadership. Ultimately, these metrics 00:35:16.509 --> 00:35:20.318 - reveal that even for relatively stable cohort, 00:35:20.514 --> 00:35:27.599 - critical gaps persist in mental health, countywide housing, and local representation. For limitations, 00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:34.546 - this slide outlines our core survey limitations to ensure we interpret this data responsibly. First, 00:35:34.546 --> 00:35:41.699 - capstone resource and timeline constraints compressed our data collection window, which limited overall 00:35:41.699 --> 00:35:48.990 - outreach. Second, we know geographic and demographic skews with uneven zip code participation and a minor 00:35:49.314 --> 00:35:55.568 - risk of out of county social media responses. Finally, this is a cross sectional study capturing a snapshot 00:35:55.568 --> 00:36:01.707 - in time rather than longitudinal trends and acknowledging these limitations doesn't diminish our findings 00:36:01.707 --> 00:36:06.398 - rather provides a clear roadmap for targeting and expanding our future outreach. 00:36:08.738 --> 00:36:14.962 - Okay, so now we will be discussing the GIS analysis that we use to support our survey. So the overarching 00:36:14.962 --> 00:36:21.127 - goal of the GIS analysis was to provide maps location information of women and subpopulations throughout 00:36:21.127 --> 00:36:27.292 - Monroe County and to provide visual representation of resources and challenges faced by women throughout 00:36:27.292 --> 00:36:29.758 - Monroe County. And so, next slide please. 00:36:31.778 --> 00:36:38.750 - So the first couple maps are just general external stakeholder maps, providing general location information 00:36:38.750 --> 00:36:45.334 - of the county location. And then on the following slide, it details the municipalities located within 00:36:45.334 --> 00:36:52.047 - Monroe County, just to give external stakeholders an idea of incorporated and unincorporated territory. 00:36:52.047 --> 00:36:58.825 - So when we discuss locations of resources, that becomes more clear. And if we move on to the next slide, 00:36:58.825 --> 00:37:01.278 - we take a look at the floodplain map. 00:37:01.378 --> 00:37:07.890 - Information is provided by the Indiana Department of Natural Resources and it provides an overview of 00:37:07.890 --> 00:37:14.466 - potential flood hazards that could be faced by populations throughout the county. And then on the next 00:37:14.466 --> 00:37:21.297 - slide, we take a look at the location of schools and hospitals. Now this data was grouped together because 00:37:21.297 --> 00:37:28.064 - these are primary service locations. Schools often have multiple functions, hospitals obviously functions 00:37:28.064 --> 00:37:28.766 - hospitals. 00:37:28.866 --> 00:37:36.548 - And as can be seen on the map, a majority of these resources are concentrated in Bloomington itself 00:37:36.548 --> 00:37:44.769 - with relatively few rural locations. So Bloomington and Ellisville, primarily where schools are, hospitals 00:37:44.769 --> 00:37:52.451 - are almost exclusively in Bloomington. However, if we look on the next slide, this is a location of 00:37:52.451 --> 00:37:56.830 - all medical care facilities in Monroe County. But again, 00:37:57.026 --> 00:38:03.161 - they are primarily concentrated within Bloomington itself. So that provides a visual representation 00:38:03.161 --> 00:38:09.848 - of some of the healthcare challenges faced by women. Now this map, this is the first population distribution 00:38:09.848 --> 00:38:16.044 - map of a series of population distribution maps. Our project team focused on population distribution 00:38:16.044 --> 00:38:22.301 - and not population density due to the potential for skewed data throughout census block groups. Block 00:38:22.301 --> 00:38:26.718 - groups from the US Census Bureau tend to be the most localized version. 00:38:26.914 --> 00:38:36.087 - data provided at the county level. So darker represents a greater total population of women within that 00:38:36.087 --> 00:38:45.347 - specific block group of the county. Lighter obviously represents less. So this map represents population 00:38:45.347 --> 00:38:50.110 - distribution of women over the age of 18. This was to 00:38:50.338 --> 00:38:57.804 - better map our target population of all adults, but specifically women in Monroe County over the age 00:38:57.804 --> 00:39:05.196 - of 18 in order to identify and create recommendations for the commissioners based of resources. And 00:39:05.196 --> 00:39:12.588 - then on the next map, we focus on the population distribution of women over the age of 65, which is 00:39:12.588 --> 00:39:18.206 - generally the retirement age for most people. So this map would help us map 00:39:18.658 --> 00:39:28.374 - recommendations for resources for senior citizens, whether that be healthcare facilities, food facilities, 00:39:28.374 --> 00:39:37.635 - access, whatever it may be, this map helps us get an idea of where those women are in the county. And 00:39:37.635 --> 00:39:44.990 - this map represents the population distribution of women of color in the county. 00:39:45.154 --> 00:39:53.388 - So again, mapping the intersectional diversity between women and women of color. And this is broken 00:39:53.388 --> 00:40:01.622 - down by block group, as can be seen primarily concentrated in a larger municipality in Bloomington, 00:40:01.622 --> 00:40:06.398 - but also throughout the county. And then on the next map. 00:40:08.674 --> 00:40:16.127 - This map is from the American Community Survey of the US Census Bureau. It represents the percent of 00:40:16.127 --> 00:40:23.653 - single parent households throughout Monroe County. As can be seen, there's a pretty good distribution 00:40:23.653 --> 00:40:31.253 - of the percent of single parent households both in and outside of municipalities. However, it is still 00:40:31.253 --> 00:40:35.902 - concentrated in that Bloomington area. Then on the next slide. 00:40:36.130 --> 00:40:43.096 - housing burden households, it is when the overall household income is paying 30% or more on housing 00:40:43.096 --> 00:40:50.342 - alone. Within Monroe County, the highest percentage is 65% and that is concentrated right in the center 00:40:50.342 --> 00:40:57.796 - of Bloomington. Now it is important to note that this data may be skewed by students living in Bloomington 00:40:57.796 --> 00:41:05.598 - because this data does come from the American Community Survey. However, additionally kind of in that Southeast 00:41:05.730 --> 00:41:14.781 - um, census block, census tract, apologies, um, of the county. Uh, there are, there is a relatively high 00:41:14.781 --> 00:41:24.179 - percentage of, uh, burdened households. And then we also wanted to take a look at, um, education attainment 00:41:24.179 --> 00:41:32.620 - as another intersectional analysis. Um, and again, we can, you can kind of see how the data, uh, 00:41:32.620 --> 00:41:34.622 - lines up, um, housing, 00:41:35.426 --> 00:41:44.461 - between the comparison of housing burdened households and the households with no high school education. 00:41:44.461 --> 00:41:53.322 - And the highest in Monroe County identified by the ACS was 15%. So overall, all of these maps help to 00:41:53.322 --> 00:42:01.662 - identify the specific locations of the survey recommendations that we are going to discuss now. 00:42:03.618 --> 00:42:11.746 - Thank you. Our recommendations come in our base both on our GIS mapping analysis as well as survey results. 00:42:11.746 --> 00:42:19.724 - We recommend expanding healthcare and senior citizen and senior services in areas with highest population 00:42:19.724 --> 00:42:27.552 - of women 65 and older and develop mobile services for rural and flood prone communities, increase adult 00:42:27.552 --> 00:42:31.390 - education and workforce development opportunities. 00:42:31.874 --> 00:42:38.983 - Continue the survey collection through fall 2026 to improve participation and make sure that the findings 00:42:38.983 --> 00:42:45.689 - are more accurate. Advance affordable housing initiatives, including housing assistance and support 00:42:45.689 --> 00:42:52.865 - programs, strengthening partnership with health care providers, schools, employers, nonprofits, face-based 00:42:52.865 --> 00:42:57.694 - organizations, and community groups to improve outreach and engagement. 00:43:20.098 --> 00:43:29.505 - I think conclusions, FA, if you want to go ahead and wrap it up for us. You're muted. The Morrill County 00:43:29.505 --> 00:43:38.911 - Women's Commission capstone project provides valuable insights into the experiences, needs, and priority 00:43:38.911 --> 00:43:48.229 - of women, gender diverse individuals, and families across Morrill County. By combining community survey 00:43:48.229 --> 00:43:49.214 - responses, 00:43:49.314 --> 00:43:56.218 - From demographic and public data, the project highlights key challenges and opportunities to inform 00:43:56.218 --> 00:44:03.330 - future policies, programs, and community initiatives. Why these findings represent a snapshot in time? 00:44:03.330 --> 00:44:10.648 - By providing a strong foundation of ongoing community assessment and planning, continued data collection, 00:44:10.648 --> 00:44:15.550 - stronger community partnerships, and sustained engagement in residents 00:44:15.970 --> 00:44:22.627 - With resident, we enable the county women's commission to make evidence based decision that. Advanced 00:44:22.627 --> 00:44:29.153 - equity improve well being and enhance the quality of life for women, gender diverse individuals and 00:44:29.153 --> 00:44:32.286 - families throughout more accounting. Thank you. 00:44:48.258 --> 00:44:58.507 - Considering the turnaround, that's pretty impressed. Will the slides be available separate from this 00:44:58.507 --> 00:45:08.958 - recording? Yes. Yes, great. I think what it shows them, and I kept stressing to them, especially early 00:45:08.958 --> 00:45:16.670 - on, that one of my big concerns, obviously, was trying to capture data that 00:45:17.282 --> 00:45:25.314 - hasn't been captured before, which was the marginalized genders. And obviously, you don't see a lot 00:45:25.314 --> 00:45:33.345 - of that still in there. And based on the turnaround time, I don't expect it. But I still think that 00:45:33.345 --> 00:45:40.975 - there would be plenty of work to be done regarding capturing those voices as well. But I mean, 00:45:40.975 --> 00:45:44.670 - all considering, I think, rise out of breast. 00:45:45.634 --> 00:45:54.001 - survey in fact still open or yeah it's still gathering okay great we can still share social media xyz 00:45:54.001 --> 00:46:02.533 - to i will share all that with everybody to push out but we did it because of the timelines and you know 00:46:02.533 --> 00:46:11.064 - trying to get it posted through you know the county websites and such that has to be there's steps that 00:46:11.064 --> 00:46:15.166 - we just didn't have time to do get those approved 00:46:15.618 --> 00:46:23.915 - Are we going to do those steps? Essentially. I mean, yeah, you have to go to the commissioners' meeting 00:46:23.915 --> 00:46:31.812 - and present to them, and they have to obviously give their approval. And so that is a possibility. 00:46:31.812 --> 00:46:40.109 - I'm sorry, approval for what? To share the survey out through county communication. Yeah. Yes. I'm part 00:46:40.109 --> 00:46:45.374 - of the Monroe County Health Equity Council, so I can share there. 00:46:46.146 --> 00:46:55.458 - Um, and then I also have two MPH students who would probably be, I mean, have you got, I mean, have 00:46:55.458 --> 00:47:05.049 - you gone to like farmer's market or just like targeting community meetings or like they could be. They 00:47:05.049 --> 00:47:11.102 - went and did, uh, they went to the farmer's market twice, which. 00:47:12.034 --> 00:47:19.238 - Most of those students are all online and don't even live here. So I know they traveled to come do that, 00:47:19.238 --> 00:47:26.442 - which was pretty surprising and impressive. So yes. Yeah. So if you want to help with that, let me know. 00:47:26.442 --> 00:47:33.441 - But I thought it was interesting. The income levels seemed kind of high for average. And then it said 00:47:33.441 --> 00:47:36.254 - they felt like they didn't have a voice. 00:47:36.770 --> 00:47:45.348 - that seemed surprising that you picture people with like higher education level and higher income to 00:47:45.348 --> 00:47:53.756 - feel like they're more empowered. And then also it showed that they felt stressed by like utility, 00:47:53.756 --> 00:48:02.334 - I forget, utility costs at that high of income. Imagine what people at lower, I mean, I thought that 00:48:02.334 --> 00:48:04.542 - was interesting. I agree. 00:48:05.090 --> 00:48:12.335 - It's amazing how many different meetings I think we all set in that go to what Health Equity Council 00:48:12.335 --> 00:48:19.652 - is talking about. But all of this looks at and you could literally take every one of these slides and 00:48:19.652 --> 00:48:27.185 - spend six months on just the things that you saw. I always think about food deserts. You know, one thing 00:48:27.185 --> 00:48:34.430 - that when the lake went in, which has been significant here since then, but the area of Chapel Hill, 00:48:34.754 --> 00:48:41.773 - on the southeast side of the county, there is no quick way to that place. I always tease the deputies 00:48:41.773 --> 00:48:48.654 - about that. I'm like, how quick can we get to Chapel Hill? There's no quick way to Chapel Hill. And 00:48:48.654 --> 00:48:55.880 - I always think about where are they going grocery shopping? What's health care like? And the interesting 00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:03.518 - thing about these numbers is because the income levels tended to be a little bit higher, it was still robustly 00:49:04.098 --> 00:49:13.105 - not much trust in your local representation or efficacy to do anything. And this thing that I have really 00:49:13.105 --> 00:49:21.177 - noticed a lot that health care issues are cutting across literally every category demographic, 00:49:21.177 --> 00:49:29.674 - and everybody's having a miserable time. And that for the initial look at that, it's just, yeah, it 00:49:29.674 --> 00:49:32.478 - reinforces that. What? Go ahead. 00:49:32.866 --> 00:49:39.679 - I was going to say, if you want a more representative survey, and this piggybacks on the food justice 00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:46.425 - issue, and I'm not speaking facetiously, ask for permission to put them in family dollars and dollar 00:49:46.425 --> 00:49:53.171 - generals. If you want to really get at people who have a variety of income levels, because people of 00:49:53.171 --> 00:50:00.051 - all variety of income levels walk into those stores. Some people go there to grocery shop. Some people 00:50:00.051 --> 00:50:01.854 - go there to get a bargain. 00:50:01.986 --> 00:50:08.234 - You know, I know many social scientists who, you know, will stand outside dollar generals if they can 00:50:08.234 --> 00:50:14.176 - and solicit survey members or just watch who comes in. And you'll see all kinds of cars outside, 00:50:14.176 --> 00:50:20.424 - you know, from the Mercedes to the Junkers, for lack of a better term. I mean, you could say the same 00:50:20.424 --> 00:50:26.550 - thing. I mean, yeah, goodwill, same thing, right? You know, like all these places. I mean, you have 00:50:26.550 --> 00:50:30.654 - just a good cross-section of the community there. Yes. Absolutely. 00:50:30.850 --> 00:50:39.636 - It's just that the Goodwill actually might place, Goodwill and other consignment shops might actually 00:50:39.636 --> 00:50:48.594 - post those surveys or post QR codes for individuals to take the surveys. Also, I think that if there's, 00:50:48.594 --> 00:50:57.552 - and there can be strange rules around this regarding Indiana because of gambling laws and other things, 00:50:57.552 --> 00:51:00.222 - I forget, are there incentives 00:51:00.674 --> 00:51:11.052 - for this survey? No. Because that can also increase uptake? No. If the survey really were to like gain 00:51:11.052 --> 00:51:21.530 - steam and get even more, you know, a significant amount of participants, are they, is his class willing 00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:26.366 - to re or other one of his classes willing to re 00:51:27.522 --> 00:51:35.479 - the data, do the data analysis, or would then you need somebody else to do it? Well, Dr. Hedgewell has 00:51:35.479 --> 00:51:43.127 - volunteered to continue supporting us personally, like as faculty, and I don't know in the future, 00:51:43.127 --> 00:51:51.084 - you know, as that continued, you know, if there's other opportunities for classes to look at that, but 00:51:51.084 --> 00:51:56.414 - I'm sure. But he said through fall, keep it open. Okay, that's good. 00:51:56.546 --> 00:52:05.957 - I find interesting is because I sit on the Monroe Fire Protection District and we just took over services 00:52:05.957 --> 00:52:15.191 - in Salt Creek and Polk. Is that right? So to the east side of southeast side where you're talking about 00:52:15.191 --> 00:52:24.158 - of the county. So now they actually have not this with the fire department and that contract. And so 00:52:25.890 --> 00:52:34.383 - I think looking at that as a way to serve those communities, to build on that. You have a lot of the 00:52:34.383 --> 00:52:43.212 - fire house out in Indian Creek is where the trustee sits. So they have a lot of those community combined 00:52:43.212 --> 00:52:51.704 - resources in a shared space. And so I think building on that in a way, I mean, for the government to 00:52:51.704 --> 00:52:53.470 - be involved, I think 00:52:53.602 --> 00:53:00.416 - that that's a possibility. I keep thinking about having, you know, a library, a free library or a free 00:53:00.416 --> 00:53:07.031 - pantry. Like, can I do that, you know, at the fire stations around, you know, the county? You know, 00:53:07.031 --> 00:53:13.779 - is that something that, you know, we could do because, you know, of the where they're just, you know, 00:53:13.779 --> 00:53:20.990 - just, you know, in the county. And I don't know, just seems like a great way to an easy target, I guess, for 00:53:21.250 --> 00:53:30.446 - a way into helping the community, because everybody knows where they are. So yeah. Yeah, I would be 00:53:30.446 --> 00:53:40.286 - really interested. It seems to me, and they noted it. They noted it. So decent analysis. And you mentioned 00:53:40.286 --> 00:53:49.483 - they went to farmers markets. They said like 85% were in Bloomington proper, right? And we know the 00:53:49.483 --> 00:53:51.230 - only, we know that 00:53:51.362 --> 00:54:00.301 - most of the people that live in Bloomington proper can somewhat afford to do that. So therefore, the 00:54:00.301 --> 00:54:09.328 - salary situation. But yes, I would love, and yes, good idea, dollar general. There's a dollar general 00:54:09.328 --> 00:54:18.533 - on every, for my four-pay job, I am a child and family therapist that travels, does home-based therapy. 00:54:18.533 --> 00:54:20.126 - So to your point, 00:54:20.450 --> 00:54:28.415 - Commissioner or council person Deckard. All the words. It's fine. OK. Yeah, I'm driving in these places. 00:54:28.415 --> 00:54:36.001 - I've lived in this county for over 30 years and I'm driving in these places that I have never been, 00:54:36.001 --> 00:54:43.814 - never even thought of. I'm like, how are people even live in here? Like, what do they do? There's like 00:54:43.814 --> 00:54:50.110 - zero resort for miles and miles and miles. I'm driving over like 600 miles a week. 00:54:50.242 --> 00:54:57.717 - But I'm curious about those people, and I was a little concerned. But again, they noted it. You know, 00:54:57.717 --> 00:55:05.193 - in terms of LinkedIn, I had to point out that they put, that's my fourth LinkedIn joke. You guys have 00:55:05.193 --> 00:55:09.150 - missed a couple. But I made them to Kathleen quietly. 00:55:10.338 --> 00:55:19.437 - you know, the online, we don't have internet out there, we don't have phones, we don't even know what 00:55:19.437 --> 00:55:28.625 - LinkedIn is, and those are the people that I'm really interested in specifically. And I think it would 00:55:28.625 --> 00:55:37.545 - be, I think this project was fantastic because I remember being a student on this campus and like I 00:55:37.545 --> 00:55:38.526 - didn't go, 00:55:38.626 --> 00:55:46.651 - any farther south than Winslow, and I didn't go any farther east, or I didn't even go to West, because 00:55:46.651 --> 00:55:54.675 - TJ Maxx and that was not even there, right? So I'm just going east. And so I think it's great that the 00:55:54.675 --> 00:56:02.544 - students, at least electronically and at the farmers market, looked at what this community has going 00:56:02.544 --> 00:56:07.998 - on in different ways. And I think it would be a very good educational 00:56:08.162 --> 00:56:16.090 - opportunity for them to see rural, like rural, rural. And we need that. That's the information that 00:56:16.090 --> 00:56:24.493 - we want. You know, we've been talking about this gathering this information for years in this commission. 00:56:24.493 --> 00:56:32.738 - And and now that we have kind of, you know, the toolbox or the tools that we could potentially do that, 00:56:32.738 --> 00:56:36.702 - I think that we could make a really good case for 00:56:37.410 --> 00:56:45.595 - the educational opportunity, as well as the collection of the actual data. Yes. It is interesting to 00:56:45.595 --> 00:56:53.941 - me, as someone who at this point feels like they're from the county, but not also from the county, but 00:56:53.941 --> 00:57:02.207 - now living out in Indian Creek and being involved in the Lions Club and the Community Association and 00:57:02.207 --> 00:57:04.638 - really getting to know people 00:57:05.090 --> 00:57:13.429 - that are about as Monroe County as you can possibly get. And I just mean generational families, right? 00:57:13.429 --> 00:57:21.605 - And I mean, one of the couples that I work with in the Lions Club, I mean, it's his house under, his 00:57:21.605 --> 00:57:29.863 - childhood home is under Lake Monroe. And having that connection is amazing, right? But capturing that 00:57:29.863 --> 00:57:33.182 - data and that lives outside of the city, 00:57:33.378 --> 00:57:40.659 - generations, I think, is important to capture. I just don't always know how to do it. Can you work through 00:57:40.659 --> 00:57:47.736 - churches? That would be a big one, I think. I think that would be huge in the rural. Well, I even think 00:57:47.736 --> 00:57:54.677 - about working through the trustees, right? Yeah. Because they're also. So is there a strategy? Do you 00:57:54.677 --> 00:58:01.822 - have a written strategy? Going forward? Yeah. This is our proposal to implement the survey in phase two. 00:58:02.274 --> 00:58:12.664 - I do not have a phase two necessarily. We can get one. Oh, yeah, we can get one. I mean, there is definitely 00:58:12.664 --> 00:58:21.909 - a marketing plan based on what they've done and looking at what the gaps are and moving forward. 00:58:21.909 --> 00:58:29.630 - But yes, definitely defining phase two would be great. I mean, it's interesting. 00:58:30.754 --> 00:58:39.934 - and very well needed. I found one on the GIS on the Monroe County website, which is really interesting 00:58:39.934 --> 00:58:49.115 - to dabble in, but they had, there is a lot of data, granted not targeted towards women or marginalized 00:58:49.115 --> 00:58:58.206 - genders, but looking at each township based on poverty levels, and looking at the township I live in, 00:58:58.206 --> 00:58:59.454 - and it's 25%. 00:59:00.162 --> 00:59:09.313 - you know, and like that's crazy to think about, you know, that there's like not even 6000 people that 00:59:09.313 --> 00:59:18.553 - live in my township. And, you know, how many of them are and where are they getting care and food? But 00:59:18.553 --> 00:59:27.614 - it isn't I mean, because there are I mean, you know, there are pantries in various places out in the 00:59:29.986 --> 00:59:37.111 - I don't know if that's enough. That's not enough. It's definitely not enough. And I'm telling you, 00:59:37.111 --> 00:59:44.236 - you know, I've worked in, you know, nonprofit and serving underrepresented or different population 00:59:44.236 --> 00:59:51.576 - subpopulations for most of my life. And my eyes are totally open doing the job that I'm doing. I like 00:59:51.576 --> 00:59:56.830 - the first couple of weeks, I was like, people just be out here existing. 00:59:57.250 --> 01:00:04.963 - I don't know what that means. I mean, I know what that means, but people are just out here living. And 01:00:04.963 --> 01:00:12.676 - I told my kid, well, it doesn't matter. But I think some of us, not directed at anybody in particular, 01:00:12.676 --> 01:00:20.239 - but I think some of us think they know these statistics, these numbers will show, oh, below 30,000 a 01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:25.406 - year or something like that. But there are people that are literally 01:00:25.538 --> 01:00:33.794 - literally living on nothing, like nothing. And they have nothing. They have no transportation. Sometimes 01:00:33.794 --> 01:00:40.950 - they have water, maybe not, depending on if you can pay the bill. And it's so many people. 01:00:40.950 --> 01:00:49.284 - It's not just, oh, a few. My one company that I work for has the X amount of caseload, right? But there's 01:00:49.284 --> 01:00:54.238 - I don't know how many companies like mine that actually exist. 01:00:54.562 --> 01:01:06.983 - And so there's that, and there's a waiting list. And everybody's overworked, right? And so it's just, 01:01:06.983 --> 01:01:18.430 - it's very eye-opening. And a lot, women, I mean, I see children and I see mothers. And it is, 01:01:21.794 --> 01:01:31.020 - hard, hard, hard times that you can't even imagine. I'm pretty sure that that's why. I mean, I don't 01:01:31.020 --> 01:01:40.337 - know for sure, but we have a community association. It was started long before I moved out there. And 01:01:40.337 --> 01:01:49.472 - I'm pretty sure that it was some of the more stabilized individuals that was their way to reach out 01:01:49.472 --> 01:01:51.390 - within our township. 01:01:51.554 --> 01:01:59.071 - to help people by having events and suppers and all these kind of things. So there are just. How do 01:01:59.071 --> 01:02:06.588 - I even know about these things? How do I even get to these things? Literally, people are living not 01:02:06.588 --> 01:02:14.255 - connected to anybody else or anything else. So how would I know that this event was happening? Right. 01:02:14.255 --> 01:02:21.246 - I mean, that's what I'm talking about. Reaching that population of people. Church, probably. 01:02:21.442 --> 01:02:28.529 - Sometimes I mean, sometimes am I going to church? No, I'm trying to I'm trying to live. I'm trying to 01:02:28.529 --> 01:02:35.547 - like stay alive. Yeah, I'm not going to church. I may be praying a lot, but I'm not going to church. 01:02:35.547 --> 01:02:42.565 - I might go to a food pantry. How am I doing that? Right. Public transportation. But is it out in the 01:02:42.565 --> 01:02:48.958 - rural and in the count in the rural areas? No, that's getting harder as dollars get cut and 01:02:49.122 --> 01:02:56.256 - as SB1 was passed and as counties have fewer and fewer dollars to fund that transportation. And women 01:02:56.256 --> 01:03:03.460 - who own their own businesses are going to be in a harder position because Braun nicks those contracts, 01:03:03.460 --> 01:03:10.525 - too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's all it's it's declining. It's getting better. Yes. What one 01:03:10.525 --> 01:03:16.190 - of the things that the health department is in the process of doing is getting a 01:03:17.570 --> 01:03:24.801 - Mobile health. Mobile health, RV, that can actually go out to locations in the county. And one of the 01:03:24.801 --> 01:03:31.891 - things I said when they first brought it before council is you're going to have to really go to the 01:03:31.891 --> 01:03:39.264 - old 90s flyer system slash repetition like the bookmobile. We all see the bookmobile. We know what that 01:03:39.264 --> 01:03:43.518 - is. We've had decades to figure out the green buses for me. 01:03:43.618 --> 01:03:50.499 - And like, I, you know, you see it, you respond to that. It'll take time, but it does like the whole 01:03:50.499 --> 01:03:57.449 - notion of doing that with the County pushes into something that kind of drives me up the wall in the 01:03:57.449 --> 01:04:04.606 - belief that everything County must happen within this courthouse. And there is so much of the community 01:04:04.606 --> 01:04:11.556 - that, you know, if somebody's got a busy life, overwhelming problems, it's got to get to them. And I 01:04:11.556 --> 01:04:12.382 - think that. 01:04:12.514 --> 01:04:20.106 - that kind of mentality versus it's all here in the night. I think that's how we start to get to some 01:04:20.106 --> 01:04:28.075 - of these better, better answers than where we're at slowly. Well, I think that that leads into the trust, 01:04:28.075 --> 01:04:35.893 - right? That of who we are serving them is we have to go to where they are, not expect everybody to come 01:04:35.893 --> 01:04:40.478 - to where we are. 100%. Can I ask how they get your services? 01:04:40.706 --> 01:04:47.733 - if we look at how you were found. Because some of these reported that they're living in some sort of 01:04:47.733 --> 01:04:54.969 - conditions or their children are not, are being neglected or, you know, they're reported to the system. 01:04:54.969 --> 01:05:02.414 - So they get into the system. Well, I'm curious if, you know, we're at the point now where we have eximatic 01:05:02.414 --> 01:05:09.371 - community service specialists instead of armed police officers. Is there a step before reporting to 01:05:09.371 --> 01:05:10.206 - the system? 01:05:10.562 --> 01:05:17.120 - Yes, there are a thousand million steps before reporting to the system. Be a neighbor like this on my 01:05:17.120 --> 01:05:23.549 - in my neighborhood, which is a middle, just a flat middle class neighborhood. He was complaining on 01:05:23.549 --> 01:05:29.464 - our Facebook, asking for a friend who mows this lawn like blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, 01:05:29.464 --> 01:05:36.022 - and I'm like, you know what? I got on there. I was like, you know what? Why don't you go knock on the 01:05:36.022 --> 01:05:37.822 - door and see if they're OK? 01:05:38.242 --> 01:05:45.111 - They were like, they usually keep up with their lawn, so I don't know what's happening. Go knock on 01:05:45.111 --> 01:05:52.049 - the door. And then she did, and her husband ends up mowing this yard for this elderly lady who mower 01:05:52.049 --> 01:05:58.919 - broke, grandson got arrested, you know, who was mowing. So be a neighbor. Knock on the door before. 01:05:58.919 --> 01:06:04.414 - Offer, what do you need? What's happening here before you report to the system? 01:06:04.578 --> 01:06:13.109 - For sure, for sure. And that's the kind of world that I want to live in. We talk about community care. 01:06:13.109 --> 01:06:21.972 - Literally, it's community care. It's not hard. More people knock on the door. You good. I see your child's 01:06:21.972 --> 01:06:26.942 - out in the street. How can I help you? I'm going to report. 01:06:27.170 --> 01:06:34.309 - I'm gonna call the police or I'm gonna call DCS or I'm gonna, that should never be our first as human 01:06:34.309 --> 01:06:41.307 - beings. And if we claim to want community care or support community care, then like, let's do that. 01:06:41.307 --> 01:06:48.306 - Like it just do it. Does that answer your question? Do you want me to go on? No, we gotta be better 01:06:48.306 --> 01:06:55.444 - neighbors. I mean, I'm out in Alexville where if there's, if somebody lives on my road and they don't 01:06:55.444 --> 01:06:57.054 - have a car to get out, 01:06:58.306 --> 01:07:03.704 - It's the same situation. So maybe I need to be a better neighbor and know who people are too. That's, 01:07:03.704 --> 01:07:09.050 - that's my question. So fantastic. Is that what we start spreading as a women's commission because of 01:07:09.050 --> 01:07:14.554 - these statistics we've seen and what we're now, you know, like that doesn't have to go on social media. 01:07:14.554 --> 01:07:20.005 - It can just continue in like our person to person conversations and amongst our local representatives. 01:07:20.005 --> 01:07:20.958 - It's how we live. 01:07:21.154 --> 01:07:27.986 - Like, you can say things and say things and say things, but until you're actually doing them and other 01:07:27.986 --> 01:07:34.951 - people see you doing them, your kids see you doing them, your partner sees you doing them, your neighbor 01:07:34.951 --> 01:07:41.783 - then will pay it forward at some point in time, you know, I mean, you just do it, right? Oh, see, this 01:07:41.783 --> 01:07:48.417 - is what I need. I drive by this house every day out where I live. And I think it's an elderly woman 01:07:48.417 --> 01:07:51.070 - that lives there by herself. I noticed. 01:07:52.514 --> 01:07:58.700 - Now, I was like, God, it's weird. They're usually on top of the lawn. I mean, I haven't seen anybody 01:07:58.700 --> 01:08:04.947 - mow their lawn. I watch the light. That package has been insane. I'm like, gosh, I need to stop. Just 01:08:04.947 --> 01:08:11.195 - stop knocking on her door and make sure she's OK. But I do. I think about it every day for weeks now. 01:08:11.195 --> 01:08:14.686 - And I'm like, I just need to. Why would I not just stop? 01:08:15.650 --> 01:08:26.385 - Why not? I mean, because, again, like I could go on, but capitalism, colonialism, being insular, being 01:08:26.385 --> 01:08:36.911 - only for ourselves, like, yes, stop. Hey, I'm Susan, live down there. Drive by your house every day, 01:08:36.911 --> 01:08:43.998 - you good? Right. I know. Maybe I just made a new friend, who knows? 01:08:46.946 --> 01:08:55.939 - here's if you yeah yeah again I could go here's my question about this information is now what now what 01:08:55.939 --> 01:09:04.760 - do we do I mean obviously the next step is we make phase two plan right what do we do for you and you 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:08.478 - and you know how do we how do we make this 01:09:08.642 --> 01:09:16.568 - I mean, I know that's always been the plan, right, is to make a dashboard, to make it so that we have 01:09:16.568 --> 01:09:24.960 - some place where we can share information, where they, elected officials, have quick access to information, 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:32.730 - a reality check, temperature checks of the community. But I don't, I think that's sometimes where I 01:09:32.730 --> 01:09:36.382 - get stuck, is how do we, outside of phase two, 01:09:36.770 --> 01:09:42.526 - what do we do with this information? Do I take this and do we write something up and present it, 01:09:42.526 --> 01:09:48.519 - submit it? I don't know. That would be probably the first step. When we've got data, if there's more 01:09:48.519 --> 01:09:54.631 - data that needs to be gathered, if the survey needs to continue to get a larger data set, then getting 01:09:54.631 --> 01:10:00.743 - that completed and put together so that it's something that can be presented and then deciding if that 01:10:00.743 --> 01:10:06.558 - is something that is like a dashboard that can be put together so that there's ongoing collection 01:10:06.658 --> 01:10:13.958 - or ongoing monitoring of something, whether it's the survey. I mean, that GIS-based information that 01:10:13.958 --> 01:10:21.403 - they were showing was census-based. So updating that as more census data, if more census data happens, 01:10:21.403 --> 01:10:28.776 - as more census data comes in over time. I mean, I guess that's what I should ask you guys is, I mean, 01:10:28.776 --> 01:10:36.510 - how is that useful to you? I mean, you were not even a part of this project. What did you glean from that? 01:10:37.250 --> 01:10:43.870 - presentation. I mean, just general. So that was a healthy data-driven reinforcement of a lot of things 01:10:43.870 --> 01:10:50.362 - I pick up in every other meeting. And so it tells me that, well, when we were talking about that, we 01:10:50.362 --> 01:10:56.853 - were really onto it. And it makes me wonder if those numbers aren't actually worse. I always kind of 01:10:56.853 --> 01:11:03.409 - have that, I wonder if that's even worse. And we're just kind of getting a little bit of that. To me, 01:11:03.409 --> 01:11:06.366 - I think it goes into some of that I talked to 01:11:06.530 --> 01:11:14.181 - I was talking to Terry Amsler the other day about some of the health equity council work that for the 01:11:14.181 --> 01:11:21.682 - county, particularly, we need perhaps to have as we're making decision a health and all rubric that 01:11:21.682 --> 01:11:29.183 - literally sits there. That's one thing that keeps popping up. So that when we look at something and 01:11:29.183 --> 01:11:35.934 - say, we're putting, I don't know, let's make something up. We're putting building C here. 01:11:36.482 --> 01:11:44.455 - location of public transportation. How far is that? How far is this neighborhood from a grocery store? 01:11:44.455 --> 01:11:52.350 - Little things that we can start doing that I think a lot of folks cobble together, but in the rush of 01:11:52.834 --> 01:11:59.751 - the immediacy of public service can sometimes get lost until you say, no, we committed to doing something 01:11:59.751 --> 01:12:06.276 - about some of these numbers being different. And the small steps start with, yeah, there's an issue 01:12:06.276 --> 01:12:12.801 - here related to food scarcity. There's an issue here related to reinforcing something negative with 01:12:12.801 --> 01:12:19.522 - air, you know, whatever it is. I think that's the way you start getting because it seems like this all 01:12:19.522 --> 01:12:20.958 - boils down to health. 01:12:21.442 --> 01:12:28.884 - health and care for all individuals. But particularly how this is affecting women in the community and 01:12:28.884 --> 01:12:36.398 - how the women go. So so goes the community. And I just I think that already what you what has been done 01:12:36.398 --> 01:12:43.767 - with more numbers, I think would be a healthy thing to report out to other elected officials. But for 01:12:43.767 --> 01:12:50.270 - us to take it and figure out some to do's and to me like that rubric is an immediate like 01:12:51.330 --> 01:12:58.473 - And I've been talking about that for a little bit because I've heard it for a long time in health equity 01:12:58.473 --> 01:13:05.343 - council meetings. It all gets lost in the public comment until you start saying, right here, we need 01:13:05.343 --> 01:13:12.894 - to do this. So what I'm hearing is that we should do a women's health rubric. We love a good rubric, don't we? 01:13:13.218 --> 01:13:19.993 - I'm not daggers. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, no, she lives around. I won't speak for her. Yeah, I mean, 01:13:19.993 --> 01:13:26.636 - if that is something to look into, that would be probably working with the Health Equity Council to 01:13:26.636 --> 01:13:33.146 - figure that out. Like, what would work for women of marginalized gender equity perspective? Yeah, 01:13:33.146 --> 01:13:38.526 - I mean, and I'm sure, I mean, I don't know tons about the Health Equity Council. 01:13:39.522 --> 01:13:47.190 - I mean, it is interesting because since I work at the School of Medicine as well, and just this disparity 01:13:47.190 --> 01:13:54.424 - of how well we're doing in the community is staggering. Staggering on, oh, everything's great. What 01:13:54.424 --> 01:14:01.874 - are you telling me right now? I mean, it is very, you know, there are conversations that I've had with 01:14:01.874 --> 01:14:09.470 - certain people that it's like, oh, we just run in very different circles, you know, because this circle, 01:14:09.986 --> 01:14:17.318 - You know, everything is fine. In the circles and other circles, I'm like, you couldn't be more incorrect. 01:14:17.318 --> 01:14:24.651 - So it is fascinating, but I just don't know how to get the circles that think everything is fine, because 01:14:24.651 --> 01:14:31.707 - they're the ones that get to make the decisions and have access to the tools that could actually make 01:14:31.707 --> 01:14:39.454 - the change. And I just don't know what that is. So would a women's health rubric be helpful in any type of way? 01:14:40.578 --> 01:14:47.924 - I think I've long said a health rubric period, but it occurs to me the folks that's hitting are the 01:14:47.924 --> 01:14:55.416 - marginalized members of the community. And so women's health rubric to me checks those boxes. Usually 01:14:55.416 --> 01:15:03.055 - health and all is going to capture like because to obtain health and wellness as a population, you have 01:15:03.055 --> 01:15:05.406 - to bring the marginalized like. 01:15:06.018 --> 01:15:13.633 - that you have to address health inequities to get there. So I think we should partner. I don't think 01:15:13.633 --> 01:15:21.927 - you need to go on your own. You're welcome to. Some of the stats that we've looked at as a women's commission 01:15:21.927 --> 01:15:29.618 - have been based on what the Health Equity Council has already put together. Well, next month, we will 01:15:29.618 --> 01:15:34.142 - have speakers from the LGBTQ plus free health clinic coming 01:15:34.562 --> 01:15:42.003 - to share with us about what they're doing, because that is a student-run free clinic for everybody. 01:15:42.003 --> 01:15:49.443 - And they're great students, very passionate about the work that they're doing. And I can't wait for 01:15:49.443 --> 01:15:57.033 - them to come share with everybody about the services they offer. But again, it's promoting those kind 01:15:57.033 --> 01:16:03.134 - of things, too, because not everybody knows those kind of services exist, or even 01:16:03.618 --> 01:16:15.246 - Maybe they don't even know how to get there. If it's one Sunday a month, then maybe they don't have 01:16:15.246 --> 01:16:27.223 - rights. I don't know. This is stating the obvious. If women don't have health, then nobody's existing. 01:16:27.223 --> 01:16:33.502 - That's right. Nobody's being born. Instead of crying. 01:16:33.986 --> 01:16:46.330 - This has been floating kind of among different groups as a discussion point and at different times I 01:16:46.330 --> 01:16:59.774 - hear different elected officials. I think it's time to like form that up and I don't know I just see a lot of 01:16:59.970 --> 01:17:06.586 - I hate the word synergy, but I see a lot of it around all the meetings we're having and all the need 01:17:06.586 --> 01:17:13.202 - seems to come back to that kind of, what is this really? What are we evaluating to move any of that? 01:17:13.202 --> 01:17:19.753 - Is some of that also like in the sense of like, you know, I'm thinking about this, right, and about 01:17:19.753 --> 01:17:22.046 - going to healthcare and, you know, 01:17:24.290 --> 01:17:31.582 - It feels like more people need to be invited into the conversation about, especially the populations 01:17:31.582 --> 01:17:39.090 - that are being affected. But I don't even know how when you're trying to just survive, how you can even 01:17:39.090 --> 01:17:46.742 - get beyond that to say, I want to be a part of this so we can help fix the problem. Because they probably 01:17:46.742 --> 01:17:49.630 - can't, but I don't always like top down 01:17:50.658 --> 01:17:57.722 - directives and trying to figure out how to find those voices that can help themselves would be great. 01:17:57.722 --> 01:18:04.718 - Well, you have a mobile unit because people don't always have transportation. You give them a bag of 01:18:04.718 --> 01:18:11.851 - groceries to come in and have their blood pressure taken and their A1C checked or whatever can be done 01:18:11.851 --> 01:18:19.262 - very quickly. And then you say, what is it that you need? What would be the most helpful to you right now? 01:18:20.226 --> 01:18:31.884 - And so you're providing a real need, not a coupon or a gift certificate to somewhere. You're providing 01:18:31.884 --> 01:18:43.542 - a bag of groceries. You're providing a health service. And then you are asking them, what do you need? 01:18:43.542 --> 01:18:48.862 - I mean, these things, and I'm not trying to be 01:18:49.282 --> 01:18:59.418 - aggressive or argumentative, these things are not rocket science. These things aren't hard to think 01:18:59.418 --> 01:19:09.858 - of. You just have to make it make sense and do it. However, in the state of the world that we live in, 01:19:09.858 --> 01:19:14.622 - it's figuring out how we find the resources or 01:19:16.770 --> 01:19:22.103 - to do those things, right? I mean, even if you have, you know, a health, you know, van going around, 01:19:22.103 --> 01:19:27.436 - right? And where that comes from. And I mean, I just keep thinking about, you know, trustees because 01:19:27.436 --> 01:19:32.716 - they're the ones out there and they're the ones that know those communities, right? Because they're 01:19:32.716 --> 01:19:38.207 - the ones coming to those and, you know, future cuts, who knows what's happening with those. And I mean, 01:19:38.207 --> 01:19:43.488 - you know, to me, the census, the idea is, you know, get the government out of that social services, 01:19:43.488 --> 01:19:44.702 - right? They don't want 01:19:45.154 --> 01:19:53.593 - the government to help people. They want people to get help from churches or whatever. That's just my 01:19:53.593 --> 01:20:01.866 - thought. So there is I mean, it's an uphill battle, I think, in a world where I think resources are 01:20:01.866 --> 01:20:10.305 - going to get smaller and smaller. There's enough resources in this on this planet for everybody to be 01:20:10.305 --> 01:20:13.118 - fine, whatever fine means to you. 01:20:14.274 --> 01:20:23.122 - And so we can find the resources we can. I mean, I understand what you're saying in the world that we 01:20:23.122 --> 01:20:31.970 - live in, you know, government, state money, federal funding, whatever. And if we wait for that to get 01:20:31.970 --> 01:20:35.006 - better, for the pendulum to swing, 01:20:36.738 --> 01:20:45.035 - How many people are we going to lose? How many people are we going to further disenfranchise 01:20:45.035 --> 01:20:54.403 - or disenfranchise? Right here, sitting here, Indiana Recovery Center has some vans. You could take that. 01:20:54.403 --> 01:21:02.878 - You could get with Pantry 279 and get some bags of groceries. And I'm sure you could get some. 01:21:04.322 --> 01:21:15.006 - donations or sponsorships for gas, and you go. Done. But I think the part of it is, I mean, I see in 01:21:15.006 --> 01:21:25.690 - the community that I live in, generational, right? I think they get to be a protective bunch, right? 01:21:25.690 --> 01:21:31.614 - So there are some people, I think, when you're talking, 01:21:31.810 --> 01:21:41.296 - It is mind-blowing to me as someone who grew up with no family nearby just to meet people on my road. 01:21:41.296 --> 01:21:50.690 - And there are three generations of people that live on my road. They're like three families that all 01:21:50.690 --> 01:22:00.734 - live on my road. But it gets to be, and this is a generalization that I'm aware, but there is some kind of, 01:22:01.122 --> 01:22:09.640 - insulation protective thing to that, that you have to crack that too. I never really understood that 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:18.158 - whole part of the community until living there and realizing what it is to be a real outsider and be 01:22:18.158 --> 01:22:26.760 - now trying to be a part of the group and the people, the amazing people that I've gotten to meet that 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.302 - I never would have got to meet otherwise. 01:22:30.402 --> 01:22:36.851 - There is work in that way to be done. I mean, it's like going into the Amish. I remember one of the 01:22:36.851 --> 01:22:43.494 - public health nurses and the years it took her down in Washington County to get into those communities 01:22:43.494 --> 01:22:49.943 - to start taking care of them. You just can't barge in. You've got to do the work. And you've got to 01:22:49.943 --> 01:22:55.102 - be invited. And I think- No. No. You're bringing somebody food that needs food. 01:22:57.250 --> 01:23:03.655 - And I'm sorry, are the people, the three generations that are living on your road, are they in their 01:23:03.655 --> 01:23:09.997 - own homes? Well, some of them. OK, because I'm seeing there's three generations living in the home, 01:23:09.997 --> 01:23:16.466 - in one home. Most certainly, yes. But also, when you're trying to survive, if somebody's bringing you 01:23:16.466 --> 01:23:22.174 - a bag of groceries, you're going to get those groceries because you have no other choice. 01:23:25.250 --> 01:23:33.547 - That's the level that we're talking here. They don't have any other choice. If somebody's coming down 01:23:33.547 --> 01:23:41.925 - the road in a van with free groceries, and they want to put a cuff on me, check my blood pressure, OK. 01:23:41.925 --> 01:23:50.303 - OK. Because they don't have food. And I hear what you're saying. They're very much cultural competency 01:23:50.303 --> 01:23:51.198 - very much. 01:23:51.362 --> 01:23:59.663 - Cultural competency covers it, I think, in terms of the protective factors and the generational... I 01:23:59.663 --> 01:24:08.047 - want to say clans, but I don't know what I mean by that, to be honest. But I hear what you're saying, 01:24:08.047 --> 01:24:16.430 - and the people that I'm talking about are the people that have no other option if a van's coming down 01:24:16.430 --> 01:24:18.814 - the road with a bag of food. 01:24:19.106 --> 01:24:29.749 - or if somebody's knocking on the door with a bag of food, they're gonna take it because they don't have 01:24:29.749 --> 01:24:40.289 - any. So the work to do is just do it, knock on the door. We've been programmed so much to want to have 01:24:40.289 --> 01:24:44.382 - all of our ducks in a row before we go. 01:24:45.218 --> 01:24:51.434 - Yeah, great. But you know what, how, you know, analysis paralysis and decrease the funding and like, 01:24:51.434 --> 01:24:57.588 - what are we going to do? So we're going to just stew, stew, stew until, you know, gather resources, 01:24:57.588 --> 01:25:04.049 - gather resources until we have all that we need and then go like, look at the jail. What do we do? Like, 01:25:04.049 --> 01:25:10.327 - I mean, it could go decades. Right. And so what I'm talking about and this is like kind of, you know, 01:25:10.327 --> 01:25:11.742 - my mindset now and why 01:25:12.066 --> 01:25:21.120 - I resigned from HAP because I could not sit through another legislative session. I could not do another 01:25:21.120 --> 01:25:30.001 - legislative session, right? Because I want to be out there doing, serving people, making a difference 01:25:30.001 --> 01:25:38.098 - today, not hoping that some white-haired man behind the desk, no offense, Dave, would listen 01:25:38.098 --> 01:25:41.406 - to my three-minute whatever testimony 01:25:41.922 --> 01:25:48.031 - and then change his mind all of a sudden. The truth is, it all has to be done, right? There does need 01:25:48.031 --> 01:25:54.081 - to be those people up there. And there needs to be these, the people, the grassroots people. I mean, 01:25:54.081 --> 01:26:00.130 - it all does need to be done. But if we're asking about what we can do to make a change, we figure it 01:26:00.130 --> 01:26:06.240 - out and do it. Right. Well, for me. For me. I was like Jennifer and Tiana last time, just like, yeah, 01:26:06.240 --> 01:26:09.534 - we just collected supplies and went and handed it out. 01:26:09.826 --> 01:26:17.349 - That's right. And look here, no umbrella. We just did it. We just wanted to make it happen. And we did 01:26:17.349 --> 01:26:24.800 - it. Interesting. The two black women that sit on this commission did that. Yeah. And the other person 01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:32.104 - of color is sitting here saying, we do that. So interesting. And I was like, no, but legislate. No, 01:26:32.104 --> 01:26:39.262 - that's literally what happened. And no shade on you. That's your culture. That's how you've been. 01:26:40.738 --> 01:26:47.547 - You know, for me, I'm a sundowner. Like, after three, my brain power just kind of goes up. But that's 01:26:47.547 --> 01:26:54.424 - been how you've been. What's the word I'm looking for? Pregnant? Conditioned. Conditioned. Yeah. Well, 01:26:54.424 --> 01:27:01.100 - no. I mean, I'm a doer. I like being a doer. But yeah. But the question is, what is the role of the 01:27:01.100 --> 01:27:04.638 - Women's Commission? Yeah. Doing things. No, I don't. 01:27:04.866 --> 01:27:12.019 - Well, the Women's Commission is, I mean, in the advisory sense, is to just keep bringing issues and 01:27:12.019 --> 01:27:19.602 - working with these two. So that's the business of this group. Yes. Because there's, I mean, your personal 01:27:19.602 --> 01:27:26.827 - mission, and then there's the business of this group. What you as a group need to do moving forward. 01:27:26.827 --> 01:27:33.694 - Where do you fit in that? Thank you for bringing that back. And I will take any platform I get. 01:27:33.922 --> 01:27:45.453 - to say things. So outreach committee. So we don't have any updates. We will be meeting in the next couple 01:27:45.453 --> 01:27:56.549 - of weeks and hopefully passing out more period products without permission. And then report back next 01:27:56.549 --> 01:28:03.294 - month. Thank you for doing that. That's lovely. New business. 01:28:05.890 --> 01:28:12.934 - Do we want to merge the data committee and the policy committee temporarily or permanently? I think 01:28:12.934 --> 01:28:19.978 - temporarily seems like a good idea to try. I mean, we've got this survey that we're wanting to move 01:28:19.978 --> 01:28:27.092 - forward for potentially looking at a women's health rubric trying to construct that. And I think the 01:28:27.092 --> 01:28:33.854 - data committee and policy committee can get more done with us working together on those things. 01:28:35.010 --> 01:28:41.999 - I don't think that's something we need to vote on, do we? No, no, it's just as long as announces when 01:28:41.999 --> 01:28:48.989 - this is what we've discussed in that we are. Unless I mean, feel free to object. Fabulous. So we have 01:28:48.989 --> 01:28:55.978 - the jail site decision gender equity discussion. Do we need to have that discussion or are we covered 01:28:55.978 --> 01:29:00.158 - that we've had? I mean, we've already been talking about it. 01:29:00.578 --> 01:29:07.467 - you know, a little bit. So that's I think the only thing that we haven't really discussed is like what 01:29:07.467 --> 01:29:14.289 - what things have happened. So there was the committee that was meeting without the without the county 01:29:14.289 --> 01:29:21.446 - commissioners involved to look at options and ended up deciding on their first choice being the renovation 01:29:21.446 --> 01:29:27.934 - of the current jail along with the Curry building and then a backup choice of the Thompson site. 01:29:28.162 --> 01:29:36.407 - and just considering the locations that they were considering. There were like five or so that they 01:29:36.407 --> 01:29:44.900 - were looking at. Those are both well in town and just contemplating site location of the jail and what 01:29:44.900 --> 01:29:53.723 - the impact is for women in marginalized genders. Access to services, public transit, even public libraries 01:29:53.723 --> 01:29:57.598 - for help with information and a place to meet. 01:29:57.698 --> 01:30:06.333 - So people that are in jail, that are women or marginalized genders, or connected to people held in jail, 01:30:06.333 --> 01:30:14.968 - they're impacted more severely based on where the jail is located in relation to services in the county. 01:30:14.968 --> 01:30:23.685 - And we're seeing from the, just from the GIS slides, that services are really, are very, very centralized 01:30:23.685 --> 01:30:26.974 - around the Bloomington area. So I think 01:30:27.266 --> 01:30:35.024 - those sorts of things, even though it's not the gender equity rubric really helping out, there's still 01:30:35.024 --> 01:30:42.632 - things like that that can be considered in a gender equity sense for a jail site location. So that's 01:30:42.632 --> 01:30:50.164 - what I was wanting to try and get across and see if that's helpful for the discussion that is gonna 01:30:50.164 --> 01:30:56.190 - have to happen and a decision that's gonna have to be made. That was all I had. 01:30:59.714 --> 01:31:14.006 - Anybody else have any comments about that part? Anything there? Did we want to discuss meeting time 01:31:14.006 --> 01:31:27.870 - change? Do we need to do that to my two people? I can still commit to 530 once a month for sure. 01:31:28.130 --> 01:31:37.643 - Yes, no, I will not be able to. I can only attend today because my client canceled. But I am only one 01:31:37.643 --> 01:31:47.062 - person. And I don't feel like you should change the time just for one person. Is it a situation that 01:31:47.062 --> 01:31:51.166 - is consistent enough that you would or not, 01:31:51.362 --> 01:32:00.554 - just that you know it's going to be that way every single month? Or is it like something where you could 01:32:00.554 --> 01:32:09.396 - say, OK, it's like a proxy would be able to come in sometimes? Is that an option? A proxy twice in a 01:32:09.396 --> 01:32:18.238 - row, I think. I'm happy to do that. We could try it. I don't know. Like a proxy? Yeah. Well, I mean, 01:32:18.238 --> 01:32:21.214 - I haven't. I have not heard back. 01:32:22.434 --> 01:32:35.402 - I'm on vacation. Oh, okay. Nerve. But to answer your question, yes. Like I was saying, my schedule is 01:32:35.402 --> 01:32:48.752 - past 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Monday through Friday. So it may not be that there is another time that's a better 01:32:48.752 --> 01:32:51.422 - option anyway. Yeah. 01:32:53.826 --> 01:33:03.822 - So do we want to just stick with this time? And then if it turns out that it's not working for you for 01:33:03.822 --> 01:33:13.721 - the next meeting or an upcoming meeting, see if a proxy is an option and how that goes. Yeah. I mean, 01:33:13.721 --> 01:33:20.126 - ideally, this case would close at some point. But it's a big one. 01:33:23.202 --> 01:33:30.441 - You're not seeing that a different time would make things better. A different time would make it more 01:33:30.441 --> 01:33:37.538 - likely because, I mean, I'm scheduled A to AP. But if somebody is doing great, then I don't have to 01:33:37.538 --> 01:33:44.706 - spend, you know what I mean? But I can't say when that will be and when that won't be. It would just 01:33:44.706 --> 01:33:52.158 - make it more likely that I could attend, but it wouldn't guarantee that I could. So to your point, yeah. 01:33:58.818 --> 01:34:09.498 - Did we say we're gonna keep going for another month or two and see how it plays out? Fabulous. I mean, 01:34:09.498 --> 01:34:20.074 - I'm happy to do whatever it takes to get us all here. So it wouldn't, nothing would bother me, but in 01:34:20.074 --> 01:34:24.222 - that regard. Anything else from anyone? 01:34:29.698 --> 01:34:38.390 - public comment, but I did, and I didn't say thank you to the class of V600, but I do want to say thank 01:34:38.390 --> 01:34:46.997 - you to them if they ever watch and I will certainly make sure that I will pass that along. I think it 01:34:46.997 --> 01:34:55.773 - is, I've really enjoyed working with them and I'm crazily pleased with the outcome considering, I mean, 01:34:55.773 --> 01:34:57.630 - not even considering, 01:34:59.042 --> 01:35:05.432 - They were tarred real fast. Is Dr. Henschel, is that Diane Henschel? Mm-hmm. Okay, cool. All right. 01:35:05.432 --> 01:35:12.142 - I actually know who she is. I was like, is that who you're talking about? Okay, yeah. Yes, she is great. 01:35:12.142 --> 01:35:18.852 - So she'll be, and she's gonna be continuing this, keeping the survey open. Yes. Okay, the person, great. 01:35:18.852 --> 01:35:23.134 - Yes, yes, yes, yes. Dave, did you have anything you wanted to say? 01:35:28.546 --> 01:35:41.085 - He's like quit talking about me. I thought he said he had public comment. Oh, when we came in, I think 01:35:41.085 --> 01:35:47.294 - he said, I don't know. 709. I called this meeting.