WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.360 - I'll go ahead and call to order this meeting of the Executive Committee of the Waste Reduction 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:08.520 - District of Monroe County. 00:00:08.520 --> 00:00:17.760 - It is Tuesday, April 1, 2025, and we have all three Executive Committee members here. 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:25.960 - Kate Wilts, Julie Thomas, and myself, Isabelle Piedmont-Smith. 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:32.240 - So let's start with the Executive Committee meeting minutes, and we have two sets of minutes, 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:36.800 - one from our regular meeting on March 4th, and one from the meeting with the Rocky Mountain 00:00:36.800 --> 00:00:43.120 - Institute about possible solar installation on March 24th. 00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:55.400 - Piedmont-Smith did provide the email, some typographical corrections to have those incorporated 00:00:55.400 --> 00:01:03.920 - into persons here for signature, did not receive any other comments or corrections. 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:05.520 - Any other questions or comments? 00:01:05.520 --> 00:01:06.520 - Okay. 00:01:06.520 --> 00:01:12.360 - We can have a motion for approval, and we approve the minutes from March 4th and 24th. 00:01:12.360 --> 00:01:13.360 - Second. 00:01:13.360 --> 00:01:14.360 - Okay. 00:01:14.360 --> 00:01:18.320 - All in favor, say aye. 00:01:18.320 --> 00:01:19.320 - Aye. 00:01:19.320 --> 00:01:20.320 - Aye. 00:01:20.320 --> 00:01:21.320 - Any opposed? 00:01:21.320 --> 00:01:24.160 - Those minutes are adopted. 00:01:24.160 --> 00:01:26.420 - I have a question. 00:01:26.420 --> 00:01:33.400 - Do we need minutes for the meeting with, the first meeting we had was, that was arranged 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:39.240 - by the Environmental Resilience Institute? 00:01:39.240 --> 00:01:45.040 - There was not a quorum of the committee or the board present. 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:46.040 - Okay. 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:47.640 - That was not advertised as a public meeting. 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:48.640 - Okay. 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.640 - Just making sure. 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.320 - So then we have the board of director meeting minutes from March 13th. 00:01:55.320 --> 00:01:57.680 - Are there any? 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.920 - I'm sorry, Ms. Wilts, was the motion for both sets of minutes? 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:02.920 - It was. 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:03.920 - All right. 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:04.920 - Thank you. 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:12.120 - Are there any comments or questions on these minutes that need to then go to the board? 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:16.240 - You've got my directions, right? 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:17.240 - Yes. 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:18.240 - Good. 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:19.240 - Okay. 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:22.960 - Moving right along. 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:29.520 - We have the lease agreement with Monroe County commissioners for the county extension services. 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:30.520 - Yeah. 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:39.600 - So if you recall, this was in the packet last month with the request to hold it until we 00:02:39.600 --> 00:02:45.240 - did get a response from the commissioner's office and input from county legal that that 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:46.960 - has happened. 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:54.160 - And you do have in your packet the version of the lease that was approved by the county 00:02:54.160 --> 00:02:57.480 - commissioners at their meeting on March 27th. 00:02:57.480 --> 00:03:06.600 - I would note what's one change that I apologize to not make it into the memo. 00:03:06.600 --> 00:03:19.480 - There is in your packet on page 15 of the packet, which is actually under section 10, 00:03:19.480 --> 00:03:26.290 - which starts on the previous page of the agreement, there in the first paragraph, there's a 00:03:26.290 --> 00:03:27.120 - sentence 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:28.120 - added. 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:32.840 - This is regarding the payments for housekeeping, utilities, lawn care and all that, that just 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:38.060 - allows for the amount to be amended at any time during the term of the agreement by mutual 00:03:38.060 --> 00:03:42.800 - or inconsiderable parties, and county legal was agreeable to that language. 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:48.280 - And that, I had a question on that, would that be an amendment to this lease document 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:49.280 - then? 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:54.320 - Would that be legally incorporated if both parties said, okay, it's going to be $750 00:03:54.320 --> 00:03:55.320 - or something? 00:03:55.320 --> 00:04:01.400 - Yeah, it would then become a part of the lease agreement and from that point forward that 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.080 - would be, these were your upon amount would be the new amount. 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.320 - Okay, so it would be an amendment to this agreement? 00:04:06.320 --> 00:04:07.320 - Yeah. 00:04:07.320 --> 00:04:09.880 - So it would have to get the commissioners approval? 00:04:09.880 --> 00:04:16.040 - Yeah, both parties would have to agree to the new amount. 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.440 - So the commissioners lease the space for the extensions? 00:04:19.440 --> 00:04:20.440 - Yes. 00:04:20.440 --> 00:04:22.360 - Is that part of the county? 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:30.440 - Part of the agreement with Purdue, the hosting county provides all the space for them. 00:04:30.440 --> 00:04:38.880 - And I see Purdue has been removed, so it's just called county extension services now 00:04:38.880 --> 00:04:39.880 - in the lease agreement. 00:04:39.880 --> 00:04:44.960 - I think it used to say Purdue, which is fine, didn't it? 00:04:44.960 --> 00:04:53.120 - Well, yeah, there are, it is an affiliate of Purdue, but I believe in each county the 00:04:53.120 --> 00:05:01.320 - name is ex-county extension services. 00:05:01.320 --> 00:05:13.440 - Are there any questions on this? 00:05:13.440 --> 00:05:29.440 - Do we need to, we don't need to vote to forward this to the board, just I'll agree that there's 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:37.560 - no objections to putting it on the board agenda. 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:43.160 - And then we have a resolution to accept assignment of judgments from Monroe County, Indiana. 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:50.020 - This world is probably more familiar with this than I am at this point. 00:05:50.020 --> 00:05:57.960 - So as it has been in the middle on page 19, we discussed this during our budget preparation 00:05:57.960 --> 00:06:05.360 - last year, because we added a line for court order remediation expenses, and part of the 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:11.720 - reason, purpose for doing that was because the county attorney's office has begun pursuing 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:16.880 - legal action for some cases where we don't get voluntary compliance from the property 00:06:16.880 --> 00:06:25.960 - owner to clean up the violations and then in turn get the order to the district to hire 00:06:25.960 --> 00:06:32.320 - a contractor and get it brought into compliance and then put a lien on the property. 00:06:32.320 --> 00:06:37.280 - The issue we run into with that is with the county attorney's office initiating the action, 00:06:37.280 --> 00:06:44.840 - the county is listed as the lien holder or the plaintiff in that case and not the district. 00:06:44.840 --> 00:06:50.880 - So the county attorney's office wanted to clean that up and to have some official documentation 00:06:50.880 --> 00:06:56.680 - in place to allow for the county to transfer that judgment to the district. 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:02.480 - So you can see on page 22 of the packet is the resolution the county council has previously 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:14.080 - adopted where there is a section in the state code that does allow the assignment of judgments. 00:07:14.080 --> 00:07:19.240 - So that's what the county's saying that they'll do in these particular cases where the district 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:23.760 - has incurred the cost to bring a property into compliance, they'll assign that judgment 00:07:23.760 --> 00:07:25.440 - to the district. 00:07:25.440 --> 00:07:32.880 - So our resolution is just a formality of yes, we'll accept that assignment and recoup whatever 00:07:32.880 --> 00:07:38.240 - portion of the cost that we can with the property transfers hands. 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:44.160 - Sounds good. 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.400 - Hopefully pretty cut and dry. 00:07:46.400 --> 00:07:52.000 - Now that I know what it is. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:53.960 - Hopefully we'll actually get some judgment. 00:07:53.960 --> 00:08:00.600 - Well, we do have some, we just have to wait until the property transfer. 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:06.880 - Yeah, we have two or three, but yeah, unless the property owner elects to pay off the amount 00:08:06.880 --> 00:08:13.360 - ahead of time, we won't recoup the money until the property transfers hands and then depending 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:20.920 - on how many liens are against the property and what other debts are owed on it, we may 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:27.200 - or may not recoup the full amount. 00:08:27.200 --> 00:08:34.280 - You have a ballpark idea of how much we have incurred that could possibly be. 00:08:34.280 --> 00:08:36.320 - Can you tell us? 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:45.400 - It's under 10,000 at this point, and that's three before judgments that we've acted on. 00:08:45.400 --> 00:08:58.440 - Okay, thank you, and then we go to the annual Monroe County landfill financials for us. 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:08.400 - Yeah, at this point for us at staff, it's an annual housekeeping measure, but the administrative 00:09:08.400 --> 00:09:18.360 - code in Indiana, there's a requirement for landfill owners to provide an annual financial 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:26.160 - assurance demonstration for the closure of an operating landfill and estimated post-closure 00:09:26.160 --> 00:09:30.800 - cost of landfills that are in closure, which we are. 00:09:30.800 --> 00:09:40.000 - Again, we've done this every year, so beginning on page 27 of the packet are the updated closure 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:49.080 - cost estimates from our engineering firm, and below on page 24, you can see it's down 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:54.280 - a little over 92,000 from what it was last year, which is nice to see. 00:09:54.280 --> 00:09:59.720 - I believe last year it actually increased because of the inflationary factors that go 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:05.320 - into producing those cost estimates. 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:06.920 - This is like the backup. 00:10:06.920 --> 00:10:13.600 - If the district cannot pay the closure costs, then we count on the county to do it. 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:18.720 - To this point, we have not had any problem absorbing the management, maintenance of cost 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:26.200 - of the landfill under our operating budget, so unless the district were to go away, I 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.940 - don't see it being a problem. 00:10:30.940 --> 00:10:33.600 - This was very confusing to me when I first joined Catsall. 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:34.960 - We're doing what? 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:39.120 - What are we signing our lives away for? 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.280 - We're going to be back in here. 00:10:43.280 --> 00:10:50.880 - Again, as it says in the memo, there's seven different mechanisms that are available in 00:10:50.880 --> 00:10:57.840 - the rule for an entity to make that demonstration, and then as a government entity, we're allowed 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:04.160 - to do the government financial test option, local government financial test option. 00:11:04.160 --> 00:11:10.200 - Basically, that's the county saying as a taxing entity, we will assure that the funds are 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:14.760 - available if the district can't do it. 00:11:14.760 --> 00:11:16.520 - Question. 00:11:16.520 --> 00:11:29.880 - Does this agreement impact our ability to borrow or bond and- 00:11:29.880 --> 00:11:30.880 - The counties? 00:11:30.880 --> 00:11:31.880 - Yeah. 00:11:31.880 --> 00:11:38.400 - That is a good question, and that's not been posed. 00:11:38.400 --> 00:11:39.400 - The amount's not- 00:11:39.400 --> 00:11:40.400 - It's a big thing. 00:11:40.400 --> 00:11:41.400 - Is it pile-on? 00:11:41.400 --> 00:11:46.360 - I imagine it might, but the amount is so small. 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:52.720 - It's an insignificant amount compared to the county's annual revenues and such. 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:58.760 - But if it were larger, I imagine that that would be so, because that would be a debt 00:11:58.760 --> 00:12:01.680 - that we may have to pay. 00:12:01.680 --> 00:12:03.560 - It doesn't compound year over year. 00:12:03.560 --> 00:12:07.920 - Actually, like I said, last year was the first year the amount increased. 00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:11.440 - It was a small amount, but that was due to the inflation. 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.160 - This year it's down about 92,000. 00:12:14.160 --> 00:12:21.920 - I want to say before the increase last year, it was dropping a little over 100,000 a year. 00:12:21.920 --> 00:12:26.400 - There is some economic factors that go into producing the cost estimates, and there's 00:12:26.400 --> 00:12:32.360 - a formula that is dictated by the state, how those cost estimates are calculated. 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:37.960 - But the commitment from the county government is always just for one year at a time, right? 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.080 - No, you have to make the financial assurance demonstration annually. 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:59.080 - And it would only come into play if the district was unable to ... if for some reason the state 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:05.680 - took away our ability to levy appropriate tax, which would be catastrophic for the district 00:13:05.680 --> 00:13:17.200 - in a number of ways. But the county, in essence, under this, would be obligated to fund what 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:23.560 - we're currently doing on an annual basis until the district is able to financially take that 00:13:23.560 --> 00:13:29.840 - back on, which could be a year. It could be the remainder of the co-exposure period. It 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:35.800 - would all depend on what the situation was that impacted the district and how it recovered 00:13:35.800 --> 00:13:37.680 - from that moving forward. 00:13:37.680 --> 00:13:45.400 - But the county government makes that commitment for a one-year period and then recommits. 00:13:45.400 --> 00:13:51.680 - So I understand if something were to happen in this year period, the commitment of the 00:13:51.680 --> 00:13:53.760 - county would be indefinite. 00:13:53.760 --> 00:14:03.800 - If something were to happen in the next year and the district dissolved, it no longer existed. 00:14:03.800 --> 00:14:09.280 - At that point, then, the county is on the hook for the remainder of the post-closure 00:14:09.280 --> 00:14:18.920 - period until or unless some other entity took it over or was created to do that. 00:14:18.920 --> 00:14:25.400 - This is a little bit different in that we're on the hook for the rest of it anyway. 00:14:25.400 --> 00:14:29.600 - I mean, we're on the hook. 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:34.800 - Let's just say we missed some deadline and didn't sign it next year. 00:14:34.800 --> 00:14:38.200 - And then, I'm just catastrophizing, but simply- 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:49.520 - If the council said no, but did it the previous year, what would that mean? 00:14:49.520 --> 00:14:52.120 - That would be one way, yeah. 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:59.400 - And I would want to go look that up, but I believe that the county would still be on 00:14:59.400 --> 00:15:05.400 - the hook until the district was able to make that demonstration another way. 00:15:05.400 --> 00:15:17.520 - But again, we need to do make a distinction between making the demonstration and actually 00:15:17.520 --> 00:15:19.560 - incurring the costs of doing the work. 00:15:19.560 --> 00:15:24.360 - If the district is still there and still doing it, the county's not expending any money, 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:29.560 - even though they have committed to making the financial assurance demonstration. 00:15:29.560 --> 00:15:37.260 - This is a lot like the stopgap funding that's in place whenever the county or the city does 00:15:37.260 --> 00:15:39.120 - a barn. 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.800 - Where will you get the money if there was an emergency? 00:15:41.800 --> 00:15:42.800 - Like co-signing? 00:15:42.800 --> 00:15:43.800 - Yeah. 00:15:43.800 --> 00:15:49.520 - And this is the annual check to see if we still have a job. 00:15:49.520 --> 00:15:51.480 - They want to co-sign our job. 00:15:51.480 --> 00:16:05.240 - And again, it only means something if the district is unable to fulfill its responsibilities 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:16.060 - for post-closure monitoring and maintenance. 00:16:16.060 --> 00:16:25.640 - Any other questions or concerns about that item? 00:16:25.640 --> 00:16:33.360 - And we can move on to any other topics of use appropriate. 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.600 - Who's got something? 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:38.600 - I got something. 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:50.080 - So have you had a chance to look into that HEPB program for other plastics? 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:51.080 - I have. 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:57.760 - I actually have not talked with HEPB directly, but I've talked with Runge because they actually 00:16:57.760 --> 00:17:02.240 - do that program out of their Cincinnati operations. 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:11.680 - And at this time, I mean, two obstacles. 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:14.360 - Currently HEPB does not sell the bags here. 00:17:14.360 --> 00:17:19.480 - The bags are sold through HEPB, so they would have to make them available at local stores. 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:20.480 - Yeah. 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:21.480 - But you can actually buy them online. 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:22.480 - Oh, you can't? 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:23.480 - OK. 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:28.680 - Can you step back a moment and give us an overview of what they're seeing? 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:35.600 - The HEPB Renew program is a program designed for hard-to-recycle plastics. 00:17:35.600 --> 00:17:41.440 - And similar to our Orange Bag program, it is an orange bag, but they sell a special 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:51.760 - bag that you put your plastic bags, your straws, your fast food couplets and stuff in, and 00:17:51.760 --> 00:17:57.920 - then you have to have a vendor facility that will accept those and then get those shipped 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:01.520 - off to HEPB. 00:18:01.520 --> 00:18:05.720 - And I will note to the point about local stores, I know we've had issues with Walmart, but 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:11.680 - Walmart and Target carry those bags online. 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:18.200 - So which tells me we could probably get it into Target stores and maybe find another 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:24.920 - way to locally offer it and figure that out, because I know that's part of it, that you 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.640 - have to buy their spanking bags. 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:33.040 - And then the other, and not that they're the only option available, that's who I've talked 00:18:33.040 --> 00:18:37.520 - to, because I know they're involved in it, but Brumke's facility here, they're not set 00:18:37.520 --> 00:18:39.080 - up to do that at this time. 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:45.600 - I'm not saying that they won't look at doing that in the future, but right now they're 00:18:45.600 --> 00:18:46.600 - not. 00:18:46.600 --> 00:18:53.360 - I know that Republic, that's the other transfer station in the county, they're not doing it. 00:18:53.360 --> 00:18:59.400 - So we have to find, if we're able to make the bags available, and even if the district 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:04.520 - would accept the bags, we still have to find a way to get them to a hefty facility. 00:19:04.520 --> 00:19:10.620 - So the question then is to Brumke as to whether or not this could be merged with the Cincinnati 00:19:10.620 --> 00:19:11.620 - hefty program. 00:19:11.620 --> 00:19:16.560 - And if they were willing to take this on, how much would they have to have volume-wise 00:19:16.560 --> 00:19:17.560 - to do it? 00:19:17.560 --> 00:19:21.240 - I think there'd probably be, I think that would probably be the issue. 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:28.040 - The other thing that the site says is that if you live in an area where grocery stores 00:19:28.040 --> 00:19:37.900 - recycle plastic bags, they prefer that you not put plastic bags in as that or that. 00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:42.560 - And so that would limit the volume. 00:19:42.560 --> 00:19:43.560 - Right. 00:19:43.560 --> 00:19:47.240 - And that was a concern for me. 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:53.360 - But Kroger's the only one I know that takes a range of plastic bags, like the dry cleaner 00:19:53.360 --> 00:20:01.280 - kind of bags and, you know, wrap, stuff like that. 00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:02.280 - I'm not sure. 00:20:02.280 --> 00:20:04.280 - Walmart took their bags back. 00:20:04.280 --> 00:20:05.280 - Right. 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:09.160 - And Fresh Time will take, they're called T-shirt bags, right? 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:14.880 - So they know VIA are special, and I know Fresh Time takes those, but they don't take all 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:15.880 - plastic bags. 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.320 - Fresh Time takes a range of plastic bags. 00:20:19.320 --> 00:20:21.000 - Like bread bags. 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:22.000 - Yes. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:23.000 - Yeah. 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.000 - Different types of plastic bags. 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:30.640 - Not freezer bags, so, but bread bag, bubble wrap, you know, that clear plastic bag you 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:36.480 - get when you get something packed and shipped, you know, that kind of stuff will take you. 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:43.960 - But yeah, that worries me that we might not have enough volume, and I don't know how, 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:55.280 - I don't know how we can gauge an interest among people who go to the rural sites. 00:20:55.280 --> 00:21:07.480 - Because it seems to me that one of the things we could do is expend a little money and just 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:16.880 - have a bin with bags in it and, you know, and have people leaving their bags. 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.880 - Similar to when we were accepting plastic bags. 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:20.880 - Right. 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:26.320 - We just had a tote at the sites for plastic bags to go in and I could set up something 00:21:26.320 --> 00:21:27.320 - similar. 00:21:27.320 --> 00:21:32.720 - But it'd be like with one of the hefty bags inside and somebody would have to keep replacing 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:33.720 - it. 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:39.880 - And at this time, not something we could immediately consider doing because we'd have to find out 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:41.840 - where they're going to go and how we're going to get them. 00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:42.840 - Right. 00:21:42.840 --> 00:21:48.840 - But it's something to keep an eye on and particularly if RFI is going to expand to facilities 00:21:48.840 --> 00:21:49.280 - beyond 00:21:49.280 --> 00:21:54.840 - the Cincinnati area, you know, that certainly becomes a lot more feasible to do. 00:21:54.840 --> 00:22:01.960 - Well I think that would be the request I would recommend that we make is to RFI is to look 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:07.720 - seriously at incorporating this and that you're very serious about, because that's a range 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:14.280 - of products that we kind of recycle right now, that it's a bit malicious, you know. 00:22:14.280 --> 00:22:19.120 - I think we should look seriously at anybody that can offer that kind of a program. 00:22:19.120 --> 00:22:26.000 - And I know that TerraCycle with wax carts, right, something like that. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:33.720 - Well, RELPE will accept, in the cardboard, juice and milk cartons. 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:43.400 - So when we switch to June, when we switch over to RELPE, it's not a significant number 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:50.920 - of different things, but when we switch in June there are some things that we can't currently 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:51.920 - take. 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:57.440 - So, yeah, that'll be really good. 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:03.520 - So, you were saying that someone else is offering a similar program to what HEPTE is offering? 00:23:03.520 --> 00:23:09.560 - No, I said the HEPTE Renew Setup is similar to our own bag program, it's a special bag. 00:23:09.560 --> 00:23:10.560 - Got it. 00:23:10.560 --> 00:23:11.560 - Okay. 00:23:11.560 --> 00:23:12.560 - All right. 00:23:12.560 --> 00:23:13.560 - And they're both over in Twitch. 00:23:13.560 --> 00:23:16.200 - I think that's okay. 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:17.200 - I think that's okay. 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:22.200 - If you've got a big event that says HEPTE Renew Setup-- Yeah, whether there's always 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.400 - ways to make it work, but-- Yeah. 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:27.400 - So TerraCycle doesn't have an equivalent thing. 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:28.400 - Doesn't what? 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.400 - Doesn't have an equivalent thing. 00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:33.400 - Not like this. 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:39.760 - TerraCycle breaks down what they take into more specific categories or individual items 00:23:39.760 --> 00:23:45.320 - and then provides a box for those items that you then ship back to them. 00:23:45.320 --> 00:23:51.400 - We're doing that through our Household Hazardous Waste Department. 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:57.000 - I think it's a Gillette program, but they'll take any disposable razors, and I think it's 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:03.240 - a Colgate program, but they'll do any toothpaste, too, and some toothbrushes. 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:09.480 - We are doing that at our Household Hazardous Waste Department, and it's something we probably 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.360 - need to promote a little bit more. 00:24:12.360 --> 00:24:20.440 - We're not doing a large volume of that right now, but we get about a three-gallon-sized 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:24.480 - box, and when it's full, we ship it back to them, but they don't have to. 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:33.760 - Can you look into other things that TerraCycle recycles, because I think they do an ink pen 00:24:33.760 --> 00:24:36.680 - and disposable pencil program. 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:38.480 - I think they have a lot of other things. 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:45.960 - If we can really hit a lot of that all at once, that'd be great, especially if we could 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:53.400 - get little containers set up in rural sites, because they're not heavy to move. 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:55.880 - I mean, it's not big, huge bunches of anything. 00:24:55.880 --> 00:25:01.600 - Kayla actually has really done a lot of investigation into TerraCycle and has a lot of information 00:25:01.600 --> 00:25:09.600 - from them that we could ... Probably something we need to dig back into. 00:25:09.600 --> 00:25:16.520 - We got into it and picked the razors and the toothpaste stuff to run, let's see how this 00:25:16.520 --> 00:25:22.040 - works and then how do we expand it out to the rural sites, how do we incorporate other 00:25:22.040 --> 00:25:24.360 - materials into the program. 00:25:24.360 --> 00:25:27.160 - It's time to start looking at those questions. 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:35.640 - Is there ... Maybe this already exists, but do you work with the schools on the TerraCycle 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:36.640 - program? 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:42.640 - Do you coordinate ... Oh, it's not at this time, but we could certainly reach out to 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:43.640 - them. 00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:49.360 - It will probably be some of the things that TerraCycle does, the school system could probably 00:25:49.360 --> 00:25:50.360 - do on their own. 00:25:50.360 --> 00:25:52.360 - They would have about ... Oh, yes. 00:25:52.360 --> 00:25:58.080 - We did it just at Binford Elementary for years with the juice pouches. 00:25:58.080 --> 00:26:02.200 - The pouches, yeah, they do those at TerraCycle. 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:03.200 - Yeah. 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:04.200 - That kind of stuff. 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:10.800 - Stuff that was obviously high volume for ... Pencils are huge. 00:26:10.800 --> 00:26:11.800 - Yeah. 00:26:11.800 --> 00:26:18.520 - Things that sit in the lamp for ... TerraCycle has a program for the fast food ketchup and 00:26:18.520 --> 00:26:19.520 - sauce packets. 00:26:19.520 --> 00:26:20.520 - Oh, wow. 00:26:20.520 --> 00:26:21.520 - Oh, my gosh. 00:26:21.520 --> 00:26:22.520 - That's awesome. 00:26:22.520 --> 00:26:23.520 - Somebody who never eats fast food, that's awesome. 00:26:23.520 --> 00:26:24.520 - That's logical. 00:26:24.520 --> 00:26:25.520 - Those things are everywhere. 00:26:25.520 --> 00:26:26.520 - Yeah. 00:26:26.520 --> 00:26:27.520 - Even when you ask for them not to be included. 00:26:27.520 --> 00:26:28.520 - But if we had individual boxes at the sites, they could just be mailed from the site to 00:26:28.520 --> 00:26:29.520 - me. 00:26:29.520 --> 00:26:30.520 - They wouldn't even have to be moved, really. 00:26:30.520 --> 00:26:31.520 - They could just be filled out there, right? 00:26:31.520 --> 00:26:32.520 - Just in one place. 00:26:32.520 --> 00:26:33.520 - What are our expenses with TerraCycle? 00:26:33.520 --> 00:26:34.520 - Do we pay for the shipment? 00:26:34.520 --> 00:26:35.520 - It's ... 00:26:35.520 --> 00:26:36.520 - I mean, unless you're the owner of TerraCycle, you don't have to pay for the shipping. 00:26:36.520 --> 00:26:37.520 - If you're the owner of TerraCycle, you don't have to pay for the shipping. 00:26:37.520 --> 00:26:38.520 - Yeah. 00:26:38.520 --> 00:26:39.520 - If you're the owner of TerraCycle, you don't have to pay for the shipping. 00:27:09.520 --> 00:27:12.520 - But the majority of it is no cost 00:27:12.520 --> 00:27:15.200 - to whoever is running the program. 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:16.040 - That's so cool. 00:27:16.040 --> 00:27:17.240 - They bring it to the box, 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:18.840 - you fill it up and ship it back. 00:27:18.840 --> 00:27:21.320 - Well, I think we do need to get the word out better. 00:27:21.320 --> 00:27:25.020 - And signage, I didn't, I mean, it's been a few months, 00:27:25.020 --> 00:27:30.020 - but when I brought toothpaste tubes and razors, 00:27:30.020 --> 00:27:32.600 - there was, I had, there was no sign. 00:27:32.600 --> 00:27:33.440 - Like I had no idea. 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:34.920 - Well, we don't let city council members. 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.000 - (laughing) 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:38.720 - They saw me coming in and everything. 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.940 - No, so I mean, I had to ask somebody. 00:27:41.940 --> 00:27:45.840 - So, I mean, I know the person that I asked said, 00:27:45.840 --> 00:27:48.640 - yeah, we need to check the things 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:49.680 - and make sure they're eligible. 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:51.840 - We don't want you to just put it in a container. 00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:53.040 - I can understand that. 00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:55.960 - Yeah, and that was part of the reason 00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:57.840 - of let's start doing it. 00:27:57.840 --> 00:28:01.320 - It has the household hazardous waste department 00:28:01.320 --> 00:28:04.480 - and see how it goes and what kind of contamination 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:05.920 - or inappropriate items get brought in 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.920 - before we just threw it out at the rural sites 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.320 - where it wouldn't be able to be policed or monitored. 00:28:10.320 --> 00:28:19.160 - We can certainly look at promoting that 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.580 - and see what other types of materials 00:28:22.580 --> 00:28:25.360 - we can sort of process and improve it. 00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:27.520 - (silence) 00:28:27.520 --> 00:28:43.100 - Any other items for discussion? 00:28:43.100 --> 00:28:49.240 - I hate to do it 'cause we just updated 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.040 - the vendor list list and then turned around 00:28:53.040 --> 00:28:58.040 - and got one, I think, no, we had two name change notices 00:28:58.040 --> 00:29:02.640 - from vendors after they completed that. 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:08.680 - Tressie also discovered that I somehow inadvertently left 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:12.720 - our lab for landfill water samples off the list 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.080 - and resolution that you saw last month. 00:29:15.080 --> 00:29:17.760 - How can that get added to the agenda for-- 00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:22.360 - That's basically my question is if I, 00:29:22.360 --> 00:29:25.080 - I hate bringing stuff to the board consecutive months 00:29:25.080 --> 00:29:29.300 - like that, but I think we need to get this, 00:29:29.300 --> 00:29:35.160 - get it done just for the sake of having it. 00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:36.960 - Since everything gets brought back to the board 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.160 - at every meeting and correctively reviewed and ratified 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.080 - if we happen to inadvertently pay something 00:29:43.080 --> 00:29:47.040 - that's not on the list, as long as it still gets ratified. 00:29:47.040 --> 00:29:50.120 - (indistinct) 00:29:50.120 --> 00:29:52.200 - But yes, the preference would be to bring 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.140 - the vendor list back to the board again for an update. 00:29:56.140 --> 00:29:59.520 - Yeah, I mean, we have several other items, 00:29:59.520 --> 00:30:01.280 - but they're all gonna be short, I think. 00:30:01.280 --> 00:30:03.200 - So let's add that. 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.040 - Okay. 00:30:04.040 --> 00:30:06.320 - You can do it. 00:30:06.320 --> 00:30:09.600 - I don't think you should hesitate bringing that 00:30:09.600 --> 00:30:12.860 - to the board even if it's every month and it's easy. 00:30:12.860 --> 00:30:16.640 - It's important that it gets done. 00:30:20.280 --> 00:30:22.900 - So one thing I mentioned to Tom via email 00:30:22.900 --> 00:30:27.200 - is the city's Earth Day celebration on April 19th. 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:28.840 - It's great to get a table there. 00:30:28.840 --> 00:30:33.480 - Well, actually, I either missed or was not informed. 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.920 - Elisa already has a table registered for us. 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:37.820 - We will be there. 00:30:37.820 --> 00:30:41.680 - Thanks. 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:44.840 - Let's try to get some more CAC members. 00:30:44.840 --> 00:30:48.480 - That's what your Instagram post was. 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.480 - Yeah. - Nice, I missed that. 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.240 - Terrible at social media, but. 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:58.520 - Yeah, and we certainly have literature a flyer 00:30:58.520 --> 00:31:03.560 - to promote and recruit people to the CAC, 00:31:03.560 --> 00:31:05.840 - so we'll make sure to have some of those 00:31:05.840 --> 00:31:07.200 - at the Earth Day event. 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.840 - Yeah, I think you'll get a receptive audience there. 00:31:15.560 --> 00:31:20.440 - Anything else, anything from CAC, no? 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.600 - No, I don't think so. 00:31:24.600 --> 00:31:29.600 - We've just been continuing to discuss the Caldwell positions. 00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:35.520 - Oh yes, should we follow up on that, Tom, today? 00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:41.800 - That's, of course, Kate and Julie didn't cope that visit. 00:31:41.800 --> 00:31:46.560 - Well, I mean, I was gonna do a report, 00:31:46.560 --> 00:31:49.720 - make a summary of that at the board meeting 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.680 - since we didn't have a full contingent at the last meeting 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.160 - 'cause I intended to report on the 10th. 00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.920 - Before we get a couple of things, 00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.360 - I said we were gonna hold off on the next board meeting 00:32:02.360 --> 00:32:04.480 - because we only had four there last time. 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.240 - And the solar was the other one? 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:09.080 - Yes. 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.800 - Yeah, I think these are really exciting possibilities. 00:32:13.800 --> 00:32:18.280 - Of course, the Caldwell quote was quite expensive. 00:32:18.280 --> 00:32:21.200 - But hey, we got money. 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:22.480 - Hey. 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.320 - It's only two weeks to see. 00:32:24.320 --> 00:32:26.600 - It's the biggest thing for the buck. 00:32:26.600 --> 00:32:28.240 - And interestingly enough, 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.600 - their sister company, Caldwell Environmental, 00:32:32.600 --> 00:32:34.160 - it's one of our name changes. 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.560 - They just bought one of our HHW vendors. 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.400 - (laughing) 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:54.680 - Teresa, anything from the controller's office? 00:32:54.680 --> 00:33:02.360 - No, I don't have any questions. 00:33:04.360 --> 00:33:09.360 - Okay, well, that is, that's everything. 00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:13.680 - I guess we can go ahead and adjourn. 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:14.520 - Good. 00:33:14.520 --> 00:33:15.920 - Thank you all. 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:16.920 - Thank you. 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:26.040 - (orchestral music) 00:33:27.040 --> 00:33:29.960 - (orchestral music) 00:33:30.320 --> 00:33:33.240 - (orchestral music) 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.160 - (orchestral music) 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.080 - (orchestral music) 00:33:39.080 --> 00:33:42.000 - (orchestral music) 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.920 - (orchestral music) 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.840 - (orchestral music) 00:33:47.840 --> 00:33:50.760 - (orchestral music) 00:33:50.760 --> 00:33:53.680 - (orchestral music) 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.600 - (orchestral music) 00:33:56.600 --> 00:33:59.520 - (orchestral music) 00:33:59.520 --> 00:34:02.440 - (orchestral music) 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.360 - (orchestral music) 00:34:05.360 --> 00:34:08.280 - (orchestral music) 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.200 - (orchestral music) 00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:14.120 - (orchestral music) 00:34:14.120 --> 00:34:17.040 - (orchestral music) 00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:19.960 - (orchestral music) 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.880 - (orchestral music)