WEBVTT 00:00:01.090 --> 00:00:09.299 - All right. We are connected, and I will call to order this regular meeting of the citizens of the advisory 00:00:09.299 --> 00:00:16.741 - committee of the Waste Production District of Monroe County. Today, it's Thursday, October 16th, 00:00:16.741 --> 00:00:24.720 - at 5.31 p.m. We'll be vice-chair, please hold roll. John Harlow. Present. Joseph Bonilla. Here. Matthew 00:00:24.720 --> 00:00:29.246 - Austin. Present. Bill Gowans. Present. Daniel Dukes. Here. 00:00:31.522 --> 00:00:41.825 - All right, thank you. All right, thank you very much. It would be possible for TSD to provide screen 00:00:41.825 --> 00:00:51.006 - sharing, or sorry, Accounting Tech Services to provide screen sharing for Joseph Winnian. 00:01:04.578 --> 00:01:15.112 - If not, I'll just note that the agenda was distributed by email on Monday the 13th. Are there any objections? 00:01:15.112 --> 00:01:25.359 - Oh, is it enabled? Yeah, you should be able to share now. Got it. Thanks. There we go. There's our agenda. 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:32.542 - So is there any objection to adopting the agenda as shown on screen share? 00:01:37.314 --> 00:01:45.093 - Seeing none, that's adopted. Thank you. So we will actually, let me see, I'll check the attendance. 00:01:45.093 --> 00:01:52.949 - I'll stop sharing. And then, so the first item of business on our agenda, we're gonna put this up at 00:01:52.949 --> 00:02:00.806 - the front because we have a guest speaker. It is, thank you, it's Daniel Duncan. There it is, I lost 00:02:00.806 --> 00:02:07.262 - my notes from Richland Farms. Daniel, are you able to enable your audio and video? 00:02:08.098 --> 00:02:20.563 - If not, TSD, would it be possible to enable it? You'd be able to share now. Should be good to go. So 00:02:20.563 --> 00:02:33.274 - I don't know if chat is enabled, but I don't know. Is there any way to confirm if Daniel from Richland 00:02:33.274 --> 00:02:37.470 - Farms has video and audio access? 00:02:47.682 --> 00:03:04.721 - How about now? Can you hear me now? Success. Thank you, Daniel. Awesome. Hi, everybody. Try and also 00:03:04.721 --> 00:03:15.518 - try to share here. Am I sharing anything? Yes. OK. Well, hello. 00:03:15.970 --> 00:03:23.518 - And I imagine that looks really tiny, doesn't it? OK, let me see if I can zoom it in. Let's see. 00:03:44.002 --> 00:03:53.159 - Hello, and thanks for having me. As introduced, we offer a bespoke composting service for organic collection, 00:03:53.159 --> 00:04:01.566 - and we've recently decided to expand our service area. We've been in West Central Indiana and Marion 00:04:01.566 --> 00:04:10.140 - County. We've recently expanded into Johnson County, Morgan, and Monroe County. So just wanted to take 00:04:10.140 --> 00:04:13.054 - a little time and give you a quick 00:04:13.218 --> 00:04:20.605 - overview of what we do and how we do. I thought maybe the easiest thing to do is just be to use some, 00:04:20.605 --> 00:04:27.848 - you know, I just realized that our website, you know, really summarizes it about as best as we can. 00:04:27.848 --> 00:04:35.162 - So I'm going to use that as my tool here. We're at richlandfarms.net. We're based out of, we're near 00:04:35.162 --> 00:04:39.870 - Crawfordsville. Actually, if you want to be real specific, we're 00:04:40.098 --> 00:04:47.945 - about a mile south of Newtown, we're in New Fountain County. So that's where we're based out of. And 00:04:47.945 --> 00:04:56.257 - really there's three services run off the same truck. So we do have the composting or the curbside compost 00:04:56.257 --> 00:05:04.493 - collection or organics collection. We have refillery service, which is really high quality organic soaps, 00:05:04.493 --> 00:05:07.134 - household products, pet products, 00:05:07.298 --> 00:05:17.443 - and the like. We also offer dry goods for restaurants and food service organizations that are interested 00:05:17.443 --> 00:05:27.105 - in offering compostable serviceware, like plates, bowls, knives, forks, and spoons, and to-go types 00:05:27.105 --> 00:05:36.670 - of things. We've even been looking at some compostable rings for breweries who can their products. 00:05:36.866 --> 00:05:45.206 - And we also have a robotic service as well, too. So robotics is in addition to some automated mowers. 00:05:45.206 --> 00:05:53.464 - We also, really the robotics is how things come full circle in the sense of taking compost once it's 00:05:53.464 --> 00:06:01.886 - finished, extracting the nutrient dense materials from it and the biota, the good biota, the funguses, 00:06:01.886 --> 00:06:03.358 - the bacteria, and 00:06:03.586 --> 00:06:12.349 - putting into a liquid form that can then be reapplied either to lawns, athletic fields, golf courses, 00:06:12.349 --> 00:06:17.246 - pastures, and any type of crops that are growing or even 00:06:17.442 --> 00:06:25.491 - gardens or truck farms. And the great thing about that is that we can do that any time of year. We use 00:06:25.491 --> 00:06:33.696 - drones to do the spray. If it's a foliar application, or we can also root inject that good extract right 00:06:33.696 --> 00:06:41.745 - into the soil and get it right into the root area as well too. So all of those services run off of the 00:06:41.745 --> 00:06:46.590 - same truck. Try to be a little revolutionary in our approach. 00:06:46.722 --> 00:06:54.957 - We're always looking for ways to make it more simple, more elegant, and really just as successful as 00:06:54.957 --> 00:07:03.436 - possible for our customers as possible in a way so they really don't have to worry about anything other 00:07:03.436 --> 00:07:10.366 - than just setting out the waste just like they would their trash or their recycling. 00:07:10.498 --> 00:07:21.243 - and we take care of everything else from there. Even return, every year we return finished compost back 00:07:21.243 --> 00:07:32.504 - to our customers up to six cubic yards at no cost to our members. So with Zoom, it really makes it difficult 00:07:32.504 --> 00:07:37.566 - to try changing the Zooming in here. Here we go. 00:07:37.666 --> 00:07:48.188 - Some of our key differentiators. This is going to auto play for me. Let me see here. Try to get here 00:07:48.188 --> 00:07:58.815 - to the beginning here. I think it's the next one. Yeah, weekly service. So we provide weekly service, 00:07:58.815 --> 00:08:02.878 - weekly pickup all throughout the year. 00:08:03.330 --> 00:08:10.191 - Clean cleanliness is really incredibly important to us. We think that's one of the hallmarks of success 00:08:10.191 --> 00:08:16.920 - is ensuring that the totes are clean and no one's ever coming out to find a tote that's been serviced 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:23.780 - and finding that it still smells bad or has anything that's potentially offensive. So we rinse and wash 00:08:23.780 --> 00:08:28.926 - the totes with each service on a weekly basis, weather permitting, of course. 00:08:29.282 --> 00:08:36.161 - Let's see what the next slide is here is around our totes are sized for real life. We've got two sizes, 00:08:36.161 --> 00:08:42.974 - the 12 gallon, which is really ideal for residential, a family of four or five typically will can fill 00:08:42.974 --> 00:08:44.958 - a 12 gallon tote once a week. 00:08:45.218 --> 00:08:53.153 - 21 gallon can also be used to residential, but we see it primarily used in the restaurants, cafes, bakeries, 00:08:53.153 --> 00:08:59.486 - hotels, who are using our service. And as you can see through the picture there, is it 00:08:59.778 --> 00:09:07.365 - scans by. The 21 gallon is sized, so it fits really well into the industrial kitchen type of setting. 00:09:07.365 --> 00:09:14.952 - They fit right underneath the prep tables in the service areas, and they just integrate really nicely 00:09:14.952 --> 00:09:22.539 - into sort of their existing infrastructure that's there. And the last slide that's up there is really 00:09:22.539 --> 00:09:28.638 - around reporting. We keep real diligent records and report back to our customers. 00:09:28.738 --> 00:09:37.959 - the impact that they're making in terms of how much CO2 emissions have been delayed, I guess you could 00:09:37.959 --> 00:09:47.180 - say, and how much landfill waste in pounds has been eliminated as well, too, through freezing service. 00:09:47.180 --> 00:09:56.670 - So I'm a bit of a process engineer. So this kind of just walks through things in a real stepwise fashion. 00:09:57.218 --> 00:10:04.371 - thing that anyone who's interested in using our service would do would be to purchase a plan. We've 00:10:04.371 --> 00:10:11.525 - got different ways that you can really create, customize a solution that works really well for you, 00:10:11.525 --> 00:10:18.750 - either at the 12-gallon size or the 21-gallon size. We try to keep things as affordable as possible. 00:10:18.850 --> 00:10:27.020 - We're really using the New England model of organics. And I think that New England's done a really nice 00:10:27.020 --> 00:10:34.876 - job of figuring out that point that folks are comfortable with. And that's really around the $90 to 00:10:34.876 --> 00:10:42.810 - $100 a year mark. Start going above that, and folks generally would say no thanks. But in that range 00:10:42.810 --> 00:10:46.974 - of $8 or $9 a month, folks are generally very happy. 00:10:47.554 --> 00:10:54.992 - you know, using the service and they're also very happy with the $350 value that they're going to see 00:10:54.992 --> 00:11:02.503 - in terms of finished compost that's coming back to them. So on the monthly side, you can just go right 00:11:02.503 --> 00:11:09.940 - into our service plan area, pick a plan, and everything is automated in terms of billing and charging 00:11:09.940 --> 00:11:15.774 - through our website. We can also do annual plans as well too, which many of our 00:11:15.874 --> 00:11:25.368 - Restaurants and cafes and bakeries prefer and we do offer a 15% annual prepayment discount using an 00:11:25.368 --> 00:11:36.382 - annual plan. Then after everyone signed up and we've gotten all the information we need, we would deliver the tote. 00:11:36.834 --> 00:11:44.421 - And you can see here the sort of the difference between the 12 and the 21 gallon size. I often hear 00:11:44.421 --> 00:11:52.462 - that the 12 gallon size is is cute and I actually think that's kind of flattering for you know flattering 00:11:52.462 --> 00:12:00.049 - thing to say for for an organic waste tote. So it's very complimentary thing. These are really nice 00:12:00.049 --> 00:12:06.270 - totes. They're on wheels. They're live locking lids and they we use a lifter or a 00:12:06.402 --> 00:12:14.026 - a waste, a hydraulic lifter on our trailer, our truck and trailer, and these integrate real nicely right 00:12:14.026 --> 00:12:21.359 - into that. We come by, the lifter lifts it right up and dumps it right into the trailer, we wash it, 00:12:21.359 --> 00:12:28.257 - set it back down, put in some pellets into the bottom of the tote, which helps absorb moisture 00:12:28.257 --> 00:12:29.854 - and condensation, and 00:12:30.370 --> 00:12:36.838 - It also contains some inoculate, some bacterial inoculate that helps sort of start the composting process 00:12:36.838 --> 00:12:43.367 - even before, even while it's still in the tote. And in some cases, like with Johnson County, our customers 00:12:43.367 --> 00:12:48.919 - are able to pick up their tote at the local recycling center. Love to be able to have that 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:55.326 - type of relationship with Morgan and Moreau counties as well, too, where if you're interested, folks who 00:12:55.458 --> 00:13:03.404 - just come by and get that immediate gratification of getting started right away with their home composting. 00:13:03.404 --> 00:13:10.761 - Then it's just, you know, you go about your daily routine, you're collecting your organics, putting 00:13:10.761 --> 00:13:18.633 - it into the tote, and then setting it out on a weekly basis, typically running roots on Monday or Tuesday, 00:13:18.633 --> 00:13:23.710 - and set it out just like your trash or recycling or your yard waste. 00:13:24.130 --> 00:13:32.934 - I should also mention that our service does include unlimited yard waste composting, as long as they're 00:13:32.934 --> 00:13:42.161 - in brown paper bags. So folks can set out as much as they need to on a weekly basis. Then we have collection 00:13:42.161 --> 00:13:51.050 - day, as we said, some Monday or Tuesday. There's a sort of fixture of the rig, 14 yard gooseneck trailer 00:13:51.050 --> 00:13:52.574 - and pickup truck. 00:13:52.898 --> 00:14:00.173 - We designed it really so we could get into to be fuel efficient and also to be more nimble in some of 00:14:00.173 --> 00:14:07.377 - the more narrow residential areas that we may have service areas in. We could give rewards. So every 00:14:07.377 --> 00:14:14.581 - time you put your toad out for collection, you earn 100 points and those points can then be redeemed 00:14:14.581 --> 00:14:22.142 - in our marketplace for some of the refillery products, dog treats, refuse bags, things along those lines. 00:14:22.882 --> 00:14:32.780 - Then we process the waste. We use three methods at our compostery. We use ASP, which is static aerated 00:14:32.780 --> 00:14:43.158 - piles. We have turned windrows, and we also use Johnson-Sue bioreactors. We're actually the second facility 00:14:43.158 --> 00:14:51.230 - in the nation to be licensed or permitted to use Johnson-Sue on a commercial scale. 00:14:51.490 --> 00:14:58.301 - We're first in the first in the state as well on a commercial scale. We're also exploring ways that 00:14:58.301 --> 00:15:05.112 - we can use the Johnson Sue bioreactors to create sort of a kiosk approach for some communities that 00:15:05.112 --> 00:15:11.991 - may where we may not have a lot of high volume of customers, but you may have demand for where folks 00:15:11.991 --> 00:15:19.007 - want to compost so they could come to a central point. And we do use the bioreact. We then collect the 00:15:19.007 --> 00:15:21.118 - bioreactor on a regular basis. 00:15:21.794 --> 00:15:28.974 - and take it back and finish the compost. We love the bioreactors because there's no odor associated 00:15:28.974 --> 00:15:36.225 - with them, and we can also process a pretty large quantity of organic material on a small footprint. 00:15:36.225 --> 00:15:43.476 - And obviously, then we've got the redelivery service, which is bringing the finished compost back up 00:15:43.476 --> 00:15:51.230 - to six yards a year for each customer. They can also donate it. So if you've got a cause in your community, 00:15:51.362 --> 00:16:00.341 - schools, athletic fields, or a church, or a 4-H, or an FFA program, or a nature area. We're happy to 00:16:00.341 --> 00:16:09.231 - partner with them on that too. Or Habitat for Humanity is a good one that we've seen quite a bit of 00:16:09.231 --> 00:16:18.298 - donation with too. We also do, as I mentioned, we apply to the crop fields and organic corn fields in 00:16:18.298 --> 00:16:20.254 - West Central Indiana. 00:16:21.250 --> 00:16:29.716 - And we're always looking at or really creating high quality product that's certified by the U.S. Composting 00:16:29.716 --> 00:16:37.633 - Council. So we're looking at those key performance indicators just to make sure that we are making a 00:16:37.633 --> 00:16:45.786 - positive impact and that we're in the end producing a high quality output on the end. So a couple other 00:16:45.786 --> 00:16:51.038 - things I can go through here is we're local. I grew up in Indiana. 00:16:51.138 --> 00:16:59.362 - Um, and, uh, we're, we're in it to, to help our communities and our neighbors to make an impact. There's 00:16:59.362 --> 00:17:07.195 - a map of our service areas, um, Warren County, uh, typically County, uh, on the North and the West, 00:17:07.195 --> 00:17:15.341 - um, and then, uh, Northern Monroe, Northern Johnson and Morgan counties, um, on the South and the East. 00:17:15.341 --> 00:17:20.510 - So, um, I did mention the, um, uh, zero waste. So we're very, uh, 00:17:20.962 --> 00:17:28.028 - We take a very caring and thoughtful approach to working with our customers. Pots and pans, pie companies, 00:17:28.028 --> 00:17:34.632 - sort of one of our success stories as they just opened a few weeks ago in Broad Ripple, this little 00:17:34.632 --> 00:17:41.236 - snack shop or concession stand, however you want to call it. It's on the Monon Trail. It's a really 00:17:41.236 --> 00:17:47.774 - cute little location. And they're using our products, our plates, our cups, our forks, our spoons, 00:17:47.874 --> 00:17:57.164 - So essentially all of the waste that's coming from the little restaurant they call the clubhouse is 00:17:57.164 --> 00:18:06.825 - going to our facility to be composted. Packs and figures on solid waste, which you're probably familiar 00:18:06.825 --> 00:18:16.301 - with. I like to think that about 50% of everything we throw away could be composted. And there's sort 00:18:16.301 --> 00:18:17.694 - of a photo of, 00:18:17.858 --> 00:18:23.719 - this is, to me, this is where the magic really is, is that in a 20-minute span of time, I can take a 00:18:23.719 --> 00:18:29.522 - truckload of material that looks like this, and 20 minutes later, it looks like this, almost like a 00:18:29.522 --> 00:18:35.557 - mulch-like product. It's not finished yet, but I think in the back of my mind, I'm like, gosh, I'd just 00:18:35.557 --> 00:18:38.110 - love to just take that out and put it in my 00:18:38.498 --> 00:18:45.998 - put it in the garden or put it in some flower pots and start using it. But it's got a little bit of 00:18:45.998 --> 00:18:53.648 - processing and cooking to do yet before it's ready. But it's really neat to watch that transformation 00:18:53.648 --> 00:19:01.673 - as you process it and grind it and get it into those stages. We're really, as I mentioned, we're following 00:19:01.673 --> 00:19:03.998 - sort of the New England model. 00:19:04.162 --> 00:19:12.573 - I secretly want my goal would be for urban composting to be as popular in Indiana cities as it is in 00:19:12.573 --> 00:19:21.068 - New England. I like to show this picture of the subterranean receptacles that used to be installed in 00:19:21.068 --> 00:19:29.395 - the front yards of almost every home in the Boston area. And that was just a collection point where 00:19:29.395 --> 00:19:33.726 - folks would take their food waste and their scraps. 00:19:33.858 --> 00:19:43.467 - put it into the spit which had a bucket in it. Then weekly, a truck would come around, they'd empty 00:19:43.467 --> 00:19:53.268 - out the pails, and then material was typically taken to hog farms to be fed to hogs. But I think that 00:19:53.268 --> 00:20:03.262 - because of this technique that was popular in the 1940s and 50s that stuck around to this day and while 00:20:03.522 --> 00:20:10.731 - I thought I had a picture of the totes. That must be in my PowerPoint. You know, to this day, when you 00:20:10.731 --> 00:20:18.431 - walk around in New England town, you see the trash can, you see the recycling can, and you see the composting 00:20:18.431 --> 00:20:25.710 - tote lined up next to each other. And yeah, you get a little judgy at times, and you think, oh, there's 00:20:25.710 --> 00:20:31.870 - a house that doesn't compost. I wonder why. But it is definitely the expectation versus 00:20:32.546 --> 00:20:41.875 - not the norm. So that's what I have. Happy to answer any questions or go from there. Yeah, thank you 00:20:41.875 --> 00:20:51.204 - very much, Daniel. Really appreciate that. Does anybody have any questions? Yeah, so Daniel, this is 00:20:51.204 --> 00:20:54.622 - Matthew Austin. Hey, Matt. Hey, bud. 00:20:54.754 --> 00:21:02.124 - For, let's say, there was some restaurants that would be interested in signing up. What does that process 00:21:02.124 --> 00:21:09.146 - look like? I guess, what is the price point? I saw $8,999 a month, something in. What is the process 00:21:09.146 --> 00:21:16.099 - of integrating this into their staff and their staff starting to switch over to this type of action 00:21:16.099 --> 00:21:23.678 - instead of throwing it into the trash can? What does that look like? Really pretty simple. I would encourage 00:21:24.002 --> 00:21:32.673 - the owner or the manager or whoever's essentially making those decisions to reach out to me. Typically 00:21:32.673 --> 00:21:41.091 - what we do is sort of an upfront analysis just to get a sense of what's the potential volume there. 00:21:41.091 --> 00:21:49.509 - I generally see that like for a coffee shop or a cafe, they're usually using four or five 21 gallon 00:21:49.509 --> 00:21:51.614 - totes on a weekly basis. 00:21:51.714 --> 00:21:59.938 - If you're looking at someone who's doing maybe like some breakfast service or lunch service or bakery, 00:21:59.938 --> 00:22:08.321 - then it typically goes up to like six to eight 21 gallon totes on a weekly basis. The little shop there, 00:22:08.321 --> 00:22:16.545 - the pots and pans shop, it's hard to believe this is 350 square feet, but because they're doing a zero 00:22:16.545 --> 00:22:17.822 - waste approach, 00:22:17.922 --> 00:22:26.899 - where it's like I said, it's the cups, the bowls and everything else. They are using 200 and their volume 00:22:26.899 --> 00:22:35.791 - is 260 gallons a week, which is pretty cool, I think. That comes out to about a quart of waste for every 00:22:35.791 --> 00:22:44.684 - transaction. We really aren't counting customers, but we're counting transactions and it's about a quart 00:22:44.684 --> 00:22:47.902 - for every time someone runs a ticket. 00:22:48.066 --> 00:22:56.594 - or places in order there at their shop. So once we get a sense of that, we know how many totes they 00:22:56.594 --> 00:23:05.122 - need. I could work up a proposal, include the just, you know, like the 15% discount. And, you know, 00:23:05.122 --> 00:23:12.542 - once the proposal is accepted, then we deliver the totes to them. Happy to provide any 00:23:12.930 --> 00:23:21.415 - training or education or consultation that's needed for the staff, like you mentioned, because sometimes 00:23:21.415 --> 00:23:29.901 - change is hard. And sometimes, you know, folks need a little, a little assistance or, you know, guidance 00:23:29.901 --> 00:23:37.982 - along the way. And we're happy to provide that. I'm also working on some, in my real life, I'm not, 00:23:38.114 --> 00:23:45.989 - Composter sort of on a by passion, my real life job is, I'm an instructional instructional designer 00:23:45.989 --> 00:23:54.101 - so I do create a lot of training materials for folks I'm also working on some e learning for for staff 00:23:54.101 --> 00:23:56.542 - who want to do something more. 00:23:57.090 --> 00:24:04.442 - sophisticated, I guess you'd say, and even potentially looking for the certification that we can offer 00:24:04.442 --> 00:24:12.151 - for folks sort of like a save surf. I think that's the right name for it, or for your sanitation basically, 00:24:12.151 --> 00:24:19.718 - but instead it would be for how to handle organics and how to compost, effectively compost kitchen waste. 00:24:19.718 --> 00:24:22.430 - And then from there, it's really just 00:24:22.562 --> 00:24:29.075 - you know, taking an approach of taking care of our customers. And, you know, I just, you know, an hour 00:24:29.075 --> 00:24:35.461 - ago I had a call with actually this customer, you know, for one of their other locations was saying, 00:24:35.461 --> 00:24:41.973 - hey, it's, you know, it's holiday time where we currently have six totes at that location. She's like, 00:24:41.973 --> 00:24:48.486 - let's ramp it up to nine. So, you know, based on that on the next service round, I'll bring more totes 00:24:48.486 --> 00:24:51.774 - out to her. I would work up a, you know, a level up 00:24:51.938 --> 00:25:03.573 - proposal for and take it from there. So that's sort of what it would look like. Gotcha. Any other questions? 00:25:03.573 --> 00:25:14.460 - I guess with that, what is she paying for the six and what would she be paying for the nine? I'm just 00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:17.342 - trying to, if I'm going to 00:25:17.698 --> 00:25:24.574 - Talked to any restaurants in town that were 15 or so restaurants in a program called compost up downtown 00:25:24.574 --> 00:25:31.123 - Bloomington. Yeah, so I've got that. I've got that list. And so if I were to contact them, I guess, 00:25:31.123 --> 00:25:37.738 - what would the range be for a typical restaurant? The $90 to $150 or. Let me bring that list up as a 00:25:37.738 --> 00:25:40.030 - general. Probably I should rather. 00:25:40.546 --> 00:25:47.173 - The list is a little overwhelming to put on the screen, but I'd say generally as a general rule of thumb, 00:25:47.173 --> 00:25:53.550 - it's based on your number of totes. So if you're looking at two totes, it's generally 29, three totes 00:25:53.550 --> 00:25:59.802 - is 39, four totes is 49 a month. And then you'd have the option then to do that on a month to month 00:25:59.802 --> 00:26:06.179 - basis where it's charged your credit card or whatnot, or it can be done on an, like I said, an annual 00:26:06.179 --> 00:26:07.742 - invoice, an annual plan. 00:26:07.842 --> 00:26:16.513 - with a 15% discount on that. That's a better idea. I appreciate that. I actually have one if I may. 00:26:16.513 --> 00:26:25.271 - I'm curious, so you said you're entering into the Monroe County market. Is there a particular client 00:26:25.271 --> 00:26:32.382 - type or region that you're entering in, or is it just the whole area all at once? 00:26:32.994 --> 00:26:41.147 - whole area all at once and yeah I would say it's anyone who has organic waste and either well there's 00:26:41.147 --> 00:26:49.220 - there's different scenarios you could look out there it's either you know I have organic waste and I 00:26:49.220 --> 00:26:56.574 - want to save money because some of the haulers for for trash and waste charged by the pound 00:26:56.834 --> 00:27:05.155 - And organic waste is very heavy. It can be 8 to 10 pounds per gallon. So I think folks would find that 00:27:05.155 --> 00:27:13.315 - our rates are significantly more affordable than a typical trash hauler. So that's one scenario is I 00:27:13.315 --> 00:27:21.475 - want to save money. Another scenario might be I have organic waste and I want to be better about it. 00:27:21.475 --> 00:27:25.918 - I want to do the right thing with it. I want to reduce 00:27:26.050 --> 00:27:33.890 - methane gas emissions coming from landfills or I know I want to or just I want to reduce the amount 00:27:33.890 --> 00:27:41.416 - of stuff that's going into the landfill and I want it to turn turn back into good healthy soil. 00:27:41.416 --> 00:27:49.413 - You know, so that's another scenario. And. So you know, and or it could be I I have organic waste and 00:27:49.413 --> 00:27:54.430 - it's a problem for me. Our very first customer actually was was 00:27:54.658 --> 00:28:01.087 - a hotel chain and they have, you know, the great big breakfast buffet every morning and it's Indiana. 00:28:01.087 --> 00:28:07.391 - So, you know, what two things are going to serve and one of them is going to be waffles. So they're 00:28:07.391 --> 00:28:13.820 - going to have waffle batter or it's going to be biscuits and gravy. So they've got the, you know, the 00:28:13.820 --> 00:28:20.124 - white gravy, the sticky white sausage gravy. And that's really why this this chain contacted us. In 00:28:20.124 --> 00:28:24.158 - addition to the fact that the franchise that they belong to has 00:28:24.386 --> 00:28:31.131 - incentives and they have goals around sustainability. So you know they were they were concerned about 00:28:31.131 --> 00:28:37.809 - the fact that it's like well we what handling this stuff is really difficult. You know we don't know 00:28:37.809 --> 00:28:44.488 - what to do with it and it's you know we put it in our trash bins. We get rodents, we get you know we 00:28:44.488 --> 00:28:51.166 - have all kinds of problems that way and we were really able to come in then and give them a complete 00:28:51.166 --> 00:28:52.158 - solution where 00:28:52.418 --> 00:29:02.834 - they have a cleaner, more sanitary way to handle that type of waste. And ultimately that waste is being 00:29:02.834 --> 00:29:13.050 - used in a way that also helps their sustainability goals too. Thank you. Jeremy, just a question with 00:29:13.050 --> 00:29:20.862 - IU. I just had a question talking about the weight reduction based off of the 00:29:21.474 --> 00:29:30.042 - the waterway and everything that's associated with food. I was going to say, we got a pilot that we're 00:29:30.042 --> 00:29:38.444 - doing in one of the dining halls where we're getting a food dehydrator that's for food waste. It's a 00:29:38.444 --> 00:29:47.013 - company called Gaia. Anyways, in the longer term, my goal is to figure out a way to mix this into some 00:29:47.013 --> 00:29:48.926 - kind of soil amendment 00:29:49.826 --> 00:29:55.574 - But in the short term, I don't really have time to mess with it. Once the thing is up and running, I 00:29:55.574 --> 00:30:01.265 - want that whole back-end part to kind of just like, you know, be on autopilot and we can figure out 00:30:01.265 --> 00:30:06.956 - what we're going to do on the side. And it's a, you know, it's a pretty good size, you know, dining 00:30:06.956 --> 00:30:12.704 - hall for students. And like I said, it's back of the house. Also, it's like a buffet style up front, 00:30:12.704 --> 00:30:17.598 - so you're going to get that too. Yeah, I'd just be interested in seeing if you wanted 00:30:18.082 --> 00:30:27.616 - come down and take a look at it at some point, maybe figure out if this is a good application or not. 00:30:27.616 --> 00:30:36.963 - Oh, I would certainly love to check it out. And for sure, would love to be able to haul your output 00:30:36.963 --> 00:30:46.590 - and to be able to use it as a feedstock in our process as well, too. Awesome. So I'll be in touch. OK. 00:30:50.882 --> 00:30:58.041 - questions. Yeah. Hey, Daniel, this is Tom McClasson. I'm the director down here in Monroe County. I've 00:30:58.041 --> 00:31:05.130 - talked with Jesse a little bit, so I have a basic idea of what you're getting involved in up there in 00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:12.358 - Johnson County. But I did want to ask, particularly for residential customers, is there, as far as food 00:31:12.358 --> 00:31:19.934 - typeways specifically, I mean, I'm thinking meats and stuff, are there any restrictions on what you'll take? 00:31:20.930 --> 00:31:31.870 - There are some state restrictions on that. And essentially, it amounts to the meat. And by meats, I'm 00:31:31.870 --> 00:31:42.810 - also referring to like fishes and shellfishes and seafoods and things along those lines. They have to 00:31:42.810 --> 00:31:47.422 - be cooked. So basically, it's no uncooked. 00:31:47.714 --> 00:31:55.520 - And we generally try to steer away from liquids. Yes, they're compostable. But at the end of the day, 00:31:55.520 --> 00:32:03.861 - what's going to happen to a liquid as it's being processed is it's just going to drain out of the equipment. 00:32:03.861 --> 00:32:06.846 - And it's just sort of a safety hazard. 00:32:07.874 --> 00:32:16.225 - One of the nice things about our rig for hauling is that it is water tight, I guess you'd say. So we're 00:32:16.225 --> 00:32:24.496 - not really going to be spilling anything onto the roads or the highways. But once it gets to the farm, 00:32:24.496 --> 00:32:32.606 - the liquids are kind of a pain. So we would generally recommend drain disposal or a disposal type of 00:32:32.606 --> 00:32:36.862 - scenario for that. And then looking on your website, 00:32:37.090 --> 00:32:44.764 - The event services, cafe services, makes a reference to a partnership with responsible products. And 00:32:44.764 --> 00:32:52.589 - I get all of that, but then coming back to the residential customer, if they go out to Walmart and buy 00:32:52.589 --> 00:33:00.187 - compostable flatware, is that something you take or does it have to be responsible products? It has 00:33:00.187 --> 00:33:02.846 - to be responsible products the way 00:33:03.106 --> 00:33:11.398 - The way the state structured the permits and the licenses for composting facilities is that essentially 00:33:11.398 --> 00:33:19.930 - we have a defined list of products that we will accept or can accept. And if you go out and start shopping 00:33:19.930 --> 00:33:28.621 - for these things, there's millions of them. Many of them, it's very easy for a company to say that something 00:33:28.621 --> 00:33:33.086 - is compostable, although they may have never tested it. 00:33:33.250 --> 00:33:41.378 - for that. I'm not going to say anybody's being dishonest, but everybody's looking to game the system 00:33:41.378 --> 00:33:49.748 - somehow. So we essentially looked at this and said, OK, well, the easiest thing for us to do is to have 00:33:49.748 --> 00:33:58.037 - a direct partnership with the manufacturer. We can offer the direct to manufacturer pricing, which for 00:33:58.037 --> 00:34:02.302 - a restaurant accounts to about $20 savings per case. 00:34:02.498 --> 00:34:10.142 - versus buying it off of what someone might call like a wholesale site or something along those lines. 00:34:10.142 --> 00:34:17.786 - So we're generally about $20 per case under wholesale. And what I've found in just learning about all 00:34:17.786 --> 00:34:25.506 - this over the months has been that a lot of this stuff is made in the same place, in the same factory. 00:34:25.506 --> 00:34:30.302 - And then it just generally goes through multiple hands of folks 00:34:30.626 --> 00:34:37.710 - you know, adding their markup to it, um, to, to call it a different product than, you know, even though 00:34:37.710 --> 00:34:44.727 - they're all the same product. Do you provide information to the rest of the customers? I can't, I have 00:34:44.727 --> 00:34:52.015 - a family reunion and I want you to, you let the customers know that they want to use the possible flatware 00:34:52.015 --> 00:34:58.078 - at a party or something that has to be this brand in order to put it in your, your tote. 00:34:58.658 --> 00:35:07.299 - Yeah, sure. We can consult in that way or we can make it real easy and we just provide a full service 00:35:07.299 --> 00:35:16.194 - event service where essentially we show up with everything you need. The totes, the flatware, everything 00:35:16.194 --> 00:35:25.598 - that you need and then haul it away at the end of the day and it's a done deal. Okay, yeah, so I'm thinking of 00:35:25.762 --> 00:35:32.496 - family reunion, fourth of July party for you. That's just an event and you'd service it just like you 00:35:32.496 --> 00:35:39.231 - would taste the Bloomington or anything like that. Right. Correct. Yep. Okay. Great. All right. Well, 00:35:39.231 --> 00:35:45.569 - um, I think it's worth investigating more. So I will get your contact info from Matt and we'll, 00:35:45.569 --> 00:35:52.369 - we'll talk. Yeah, that sounds great. There's a, it's just a world of opportunity. So we're, we're real 00:35:52.369 --> 00:35:54.878 - excited to, uh, to be in it. Awesome. 00:35:55.170 --> 00:36:02.225 - Daniel, thank you very much for the presentation. Any other questions? Yeah, I have two for you, Daniel. 00:36:02.225 --> 00:36:09.213 - First question was, in counties where you're partnered with the Solid Waste Management District to have 00:36:09.213 --> 00:36:16.066 - totes at their regional recycling facilities, how does that work? Does a customer call in and sign up 00:36:16.066 --> 00:36:22.785 - with you and get like a ticket number and then take it to... Yeah, they would just socially sign up 00:36:22.785 --> 00:36:24.734 - through the website and then 00:36:25.154 --> 00:36:33.195 - Part of the side up process, there's a form that they'd fill out with all their info. If it's like Johnson 00:36:33.195 --> 00:36:41.087 - County, for example, Carla, I just took Carla eight totes, eight 12 gallon totes last week, last Monday. 00:36:41.087 --> 00:36:48.752 - And so the customer then will, in their email, they'll essentially say, if you reside in this county, 00:36:48.752 --> 00:36:52.510 - you can go here and you can pick up your tote and 00:36:52.866 --> 00:36:59.977 - then they would just coordinate that based on the office hours for the center. Or if they want it delivered, 00:36:59.977 --> 00:37:06.175 - we're happy to deliver it too. OK, then my second question is kind of piggybacking on what Mr. 00:37:06.175 --> 00:37:12.959 - Austin said. So let's say he goes somewhere like downtown Bloomington, which is about a one square mile 00:37:12.959 --> 00:37:19.875 - radius of heavily concentrated restaurants. Yeah. Would there be some way for the restaurant organization 00:37:19.875 --> 00:37:21.310 - to kind of partner up 00:37:21.922 --> 00:37:29.428 - to get a lower price point, since your efficiencies would be so improved being in such a dense area? 00:37:29.428 --> 00:37:37.007 - For sure. Yeah, we actually in the very early days of setting this up, we were really centered around 00:37:37.007 --> 00:37:44.885 - a co-op model. And I guess in my mind, I'm always wondering, it's like, well, what Carmel's really trying 00:37:44.885 --> 00:37:51.870 - to do this a little bit, but really not as successfully as we'd hoped, where it's essentially 00:37:52.098 --> 00:38:01.205 - Like you said, there's a real dense spot of 20, 30 restaurants in one area. And just providing a centralized 00:38:01.205 --> 00:38:10.228 - service where everybody co-ops the cost, in my mind, that's the dream. That's what I would do as a business 00:38:10.228 --> 00:38:12.734 - owner. So we're all for that. 00:38:12.834 --> 00:38:20.726 - And even to a point where if we needed to do like we offer, there's a third size I didn't really get 00:38:20.726 --> 00:38:28.540 - into in my presentation, but there's a 275 gallon size tote, you know, where, you know, it's really 00:38:28.540 --> 00:38:36.745 - for that, for that, you know, either that institutional, like an IU food hall type of type of situation, 00:38:36.745 --> 00:38:40.574 - or where you've got a dense set of food service, 00:38:41.058 --> 00:38:48.560 - institutions that are, you know, essentially just co-opping the cost. So, yeah. And I would love to 00:38:48.560 --> 00:38:56.211 - even get to a point where we're using bioreactors, but we're touching into some, you know, registrate 00:38:56.211 --> 00:39:04.013 - or some permitting type of stuff at that point. So that's a down the road type of goal. But yeah, we've 00:39:04.013 --> 00:39:07.614 - got the 275-gallon totes available immediately. 00:39:10.146 --> 00:39:20.392 - And those are picked up on a weekly basis as well. Yep. Yep. Yep. Picked up or dumped, tipped, and rinsed. 00:39:20.392 --> 00:39:30.638 - Gotcha. And that question was from Brad Lucas. Yep. What is the love of the school corporation is limited. 00:39:30.638 --> 00:39:36.766 - So definitely something we would love to be part of. It's just, 00:39:37.666 --> 00:39:47.484 - finding the right partnership that's able to handle the amount of food waste that we have. I'll definitely 00:39:47.484 --> 00:39:57.118 - reach out to you about maybe setting up a pilot school. I don't know that we'd want to tackle 24 schools 00:39:57.118 --> 00:40:06.385 - at one time. I would like to tackle 24 schools at one time. That would be great. Put an order in for 00:40:06.385 --> 00:40:07.486 - some totes. 00:40:07.586 --> 00:40:15.778 - Yeah, I want to reach out to you about maybe getting down here at some point and taking a look at what 00:40:15.778 --> 00:40:24.129 - we've got. Yeah, that'd be great. A statistic you can use in the back of your, you know, if you're doing 00:40:24.129 --> 00:40:32.082 - napkin calculations or whatever would be for every 400 students, you're going to produce 50 gallons 00:40:32.082 --> 00:40:35.582 - of organic waste a day. Thank you for that. 00:40:36.770 --> 00:40:45.274 - I think we've heard from everybody. Any other thoughts or questions? Anyone else come to the door and 00:40:45.274 --> 00:40:53.862 - ask questions? Oh, that's great. These are some of the best questions I've ever had, so appreciate it. 00:40:53.862 --> 00:41:02.367 - Yeah, yeah, I really appreciate you taking the time to present and field all of our questions. And it 00:41:02.367 --> 00:41:05.118 - sounds like if you don't already 00:41:05.282 --> 00:41:16.998 - have it, there will be contact information exchanges. That'd be great. I look forward to it. Perfect. 00:41:16.998 --> 00:41:26.302 - Thank you again. Have a good meeting. Sounds good. Very good presentation. Yeah. 00:41:28.066 --> 00:41:35.046 - Just to verify it, the website's for excellent farm stock. Yeah, yeah, it's Daniel at. I can just send 00:41:35.046 --> 00:41:42.025 - that out to them. Perfect. Yeah, I got. It's it's it's on the website. Let's say you're looking to the 00:41:42.025 --> 00:41:48.937 - website. Well, it's talking his emails on there. OK, that's good. All right, well, that that picks up 00:41:48.937 --> 00:41:55.782 - our first order of business. Fortunately, all the rest of much shorter are next is just the approval 00:41:55.782 --> 00:41:57.950 - of the meeting minutes from the 00:41:59.138 --> 00:42:08.568 - August, August 21st, regular CAC email sent out by email leave on say the 14th. Are there any corrections 00:42:08.568 --> 00:42:18.087 - to the minutes as distributed? All right, seeing none other approved. And then you go to reports, starting 00:42:18.087 --> 00:42:26.983 - with the district. If you're ready, Tom. You got it. Well, I'll go to the conference because that's 00:42:26.983 --> 00:42:29.118 - later on in the agenda. 00:42:29.250 --> 00:42:39.526 - So, uh, uh, county council adopted our budget as presented Tuesday night. So that's all, that's all 00:42:39.526 --> 00:42:49.905 - set and done. Now we transition to year end stuff. Um, but one thing I do have for the CAC is what's 00:42:49.905 --> 00:42:57.406 - in the budget. It's a $20,000 appropriation for community grant program. 00:42:57.506 --> 00:43:05.291 - So that program has to be written and adopted by a board. And I pretty much have a program drafted. 00:43:05.291 --> 00:43:13.076 - What I've been using, Boone County and Hendricks County have had these programs in place for a long 00:43:13.076 --> 00:43:20.861 - time. I know those directors well, so they sent me all their stuff. They understand. One thing that 00:43:20.861 --> 00:43:26.622 - they have in there is a role for the CAC in reviewing grant applications. 00:43:27.266 --> 00:43:36.980 - So that is in what I've drafted. I do plan to present a first draft, I guess, to the board at the November 00:43:36.980 --> 00:43:46.149 - meeting. I doubt that they will vote on it and adopt it at that meeting. I'm sure they're gonna want 00:43:46.149 --> 00:43:55.682 - it to have some input and go through revisions, but it's also $2026. So I would like to have it approved 00:43:55.682 --> 00:43:56.862 - by the board 00:43:56.994 --> 00:44:06.288 - at the December meeting at the latest so that we can turn around and advertise open grant applications 00:44:06.288 --> 00:44:15.401 - and get those in reviewed and awarded early in the year for the people have time to actually do what 00:44:15.401 --> 00:44:23.070 - they've asked for. So. So I guess. And I don't know if now it is time to think about 00:44:25.250 --> 00:44:33.176 - what role you might want or would be comfortable having in that grant process of making recommendations 00:44:33.176 --> 00:44:40.873 - to the board. I mean, obviously, when I get it finished, I can get ahead of time. I can get you guys 00:44:40.873 --> 00:44:48.722 - copies of the draft. I'm going to give it to the board. But obviously, there's criteria in there about 00:44:48.722 --> 00:44:54.590 - how to get into those proposals that align well with the district's mission. 00:44:54.818 --> 00:45:01.680 - you know, criteria. I mean, we're not paying for somebody's recycling fees or disposal service. We'll 00:45:01.680 --> 00:45:08.408 - buy a toast to implement your program. We'll help you, you know, if you're putting a employee break 00:45:08.408 --> 00:45:15.338 - area outside and want to buy recycled content furniture. And those are the types of things that, that, 00:45:15.338 --> 00:45:22.268 - that, and at least that the Boone and Henderson County do and in my mind would be appropriate for, for 00:45:22.268 --> 00:45:24.286 - district funds to be used up. 00:45:25.858 --> 00:45:34.530 - So that's coming, and we're going to push to have that happen fast, because we need to give people time 00:45:34.530 --> 00:45:43.452 - to spend the money next year. That's what we have. Let's see, the board did approve. Thank you, everybody. 00:45:43.452 --> 00:45:52.040 - We had the Superfund cashed out settlement agreement that was approved. That's all been completed, and 00:45:52.040 --> 00:45:53.374 - the check sent. 00:45:54.722 --> 00:46:08.288 - don't have a certified receipt back, but as far as I'm concerned, that's all done. We did get a placement 00:46:08.288 --> 00:46:21.470 - truck for the one that was wrecked. It's just got that last week, Friday. It's a foot shorter than the 00:46:21.470 --> 00:46:24.286 - one that was wrecked. 00:46:24.450 --> 00:46:33.921 - staff said that, I mean, they went and measured their gay lords and their toads and said, it'll work. 00:46:33.921 --> 00:46:43.577 - We can still work with this. And that was, we got them a lot faster than if we'd had them build exactly 00:46:43.577 --> 00:46:53.790 - what was right from scratch. We'd still be waiting. We're starting to transition over the year and stuff. Oh, 00:46:53.922 --> 00:47:01.051 - One other thing that is on the board's agenda for November that was introduced at the F-Tower meeting 00:47:01.051 --> 00:47:08.180 - is we're proposing what looks like really substantial revisions to our fee resolution. A lot of it is 00:47:08.180 --> 00:47:15.309 - just reorganizing. In the fee resolution, if our fee is attributed to South Walnut, we can collect it 00:47:15.309 --> 00:47:23.486 - in the House of Representatives Waste Department. That's South Walnut, we don't transact money to recycling centers. 00:47:25.186 --> 00:47:34.034 - So we moved, we reorganized it a lot. The only residential fees that are going up are latex paint, at 00:47:34.034 --> 00:47:42.709 - least proposed to go up are latex paint. But we encourage people to try it out. It's not like we're 00:47:42.709 --> 00:47:51.471 - not actually listening to this and throw it out. So I'm not really concerned about those going up. I 00:47:51.471 --> 00:47:53.726 - think it's an alternative 00:47:54.050 --> 00:48:04.212 - So the majority of the changes are for commercial and small body generators, for hazmat, small businesses 00:48:04.212 --> 00:48:14.086 - that don't meet the immediate threshold to produce hazardous waste, and out-of-county residents. Those 00:48:14.086 --> 00:48:20.222 - are the pieces that are changing. Some are actually going down. 00:48:21.378 --> 00:48:33.737 - We can get our costs and it's not about making money. It's about trying to have it be a wash when those 00:48:33.737 --> 00:48:45.622 - customers come in. And we've had to add some new categories on their damage with the ion batteries. 00:48:45.622 --> 00:48:50.494 - A big deal right now. They're expensive. 00:48:50.882 --> 00:49:01.714 - We split those out cost-wise from undamaged lithium batteries. So there's things like that in there. 00:49:01.714 --> 00:49:12.654 - In my mind, nothing should be sticker shopped to anybody. Many of them were just, we don't do pennies 00:49:12.654 --> 00:49:19.518 - next door, so I'm not charging $3.08 for something. It's $3.10. 00:49:20.226 --> 00:49:30.451 - We don't do a lot of cash transactions anymore. Nobody likes pennies. What happens to that? America 00:49:30.451 --> 00:49:40.471 - Recycles Day, November 15th. As we've done in the past few years, we did have a musician planned. 00:49:40.471 --> 00:49:48.958 - Unfortunately, he's had to cancel on us, so we are trying to do Plan B on the fly. 00:49:49.762 --> 00:50:02.768 - We will try to do something at all the recycling centers to acknowledge America Recycling Day on the 00:50:02.768 --> 00:50:15.646 - 15th. Not November 15th is America Recycling Day. Every year? Back to the 17th. It's not Labor Day. 00:50:19.266 --> 00:50:29.207 - I think that's, I guess, all I can think of. Questions? We want to ask for the other counties who have 00:50:29.207 --> 00:50:39.438 - the grant programs, the role that the CAC plays, is it to make a recommendation? To make a recommendation 00:50:39.438 --> 00:50:48.414 - to the board, because it's district funds, the board, and that's, I guess, I guess, I guess, 00:50:48.642 --> 00:50:57.662 - The board could establish the program in such a way that they delegate, you know, the award of those 00:50:57.662 --> 00:51:06.861 - funds to the CDC. The CDC would, you know, they could do it to staff. But those districts haven't done 00:51:06.861 --> 00:51:15.614 - it. They just, they want the CDC to review them and make the recommendations for grants they feel 00:51:17.922 --> 00:51:25.859 - post in line. Okay. That's a good agenda item for a subsequent meeting to discuss more completely. I 00:51:25.859 --> 00:51:33.796 - just want to have an idea of the reference one's work. So that makes sense. Thank you. All right. So 00:51:33.796 --> 00:51:42.283 - that is it for reports from the district. I do have one note for a report from the chair. As Tom mentioned, 00:51:42.283 --> 00:51:46.526 - we're nearing year end and we have one year of terms. 00:51:46.818 --> 00:51:52.897 - So I think it's probably a good time to indicate via email, I think directly to Tom, if you would like 00:51:52.897 --> 00:51:58.916 - to renew your CDC membership for next year, I'll send an email out after this meeting. So the members 00:51:58.916 --> 00:52:04.936 - who are absent can also see that. And then that could maybe be one convenient thread for everybody to 00:52:04.936 --> 00:52:11.073 - use to respond to Tom. And I just, if I could, I guess have those before Thanksgiving, because we would 00:52:11.073 --> 00:52:16.798 - try to do the appointments at the December meeting, the reappointments at the December meetings. 00:52:17.666 --> 00:52:25.744 - Yes, that would be also between now and our next meeting. I'm not mistaken. Maybe after your next meeting. 00:52:25.744 --> 00:52:33.519 - Okay. Yep. All right. So there's that on that note. I will also let you know if you don't already that 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:41.068 - I am planning on moving on Bloomington next year. So that be a member of this case. After separate. 00:52:41.068 --> 00:52:45.598 - So, yeah, we have to go back to me because I'm sorry. Yeah. 00:52:47.330 --> 00:53:02.966 - Just give you some notice. So I have to think about that because in January, you guys got an elect officer. 00:53:02.966 --> 00:53:13.246 - Yes. That's all I have for the chair report. Any questions? All right. 00:53:13.922 --> 00:53:20.962 - Technically, probably it's possible. I don't know if it's going to be possible or accessible. 00:53:20.962 --> 00:53:28.901 - On the sheet. Yeah. So, okay, that's it for reports. We don't have any special committee reports, special 00:53:28.901 --> 00:53:36.540 - orders, or unfinished business. The only new business item that we have on the agenda is just an item 00:53:36.540 --> 00:53:40.734 - for AISWMD retreat discussion that was last week. Okay. 00:53:42.338 --> 00:53:48.473 - So any thoughts in particular? I know Tom, Matt, and I, and I think John were able to attend. Yeah, 00:53:48.473 --> 00:53:55.037 - I like the Indiana Compost Council. I think it makes sense to join that with the Waste Reduction District, 00:53:55.037 --> 00:54:01.233 - and I know they're trying to raise funds for that. I don't know, Tom, that's something that we'll do 00:54:01.233 --> 00:54:07.552 - with the Board of Directors. We get to look at it and what the students are and how that fits in their 00:54:07.552 --> 00:54:10.558 - budget. I think it was 150 or 250 for nonprofits 00:54:11.042 --> 00:54:22.127 - What did that entail? It entailed being a part of it, having two of your organization's members attend 00:54:22.127 --> 00:54:32.135 - ICC things for free, being able to guide, provide guidance as to where they're moving goals, 00:54:32.135 --> 00:54:37.086 - things like that, but handling the direction. 00:54:41.154 --> 00:54:49.397 - I didn't hear about that. I found it really interesting to find out that Coca-Cola hasn't been using 00:54:49.397 --> 00:54:57.885 - recycled bottles until two years ago. It was interesting to see the process that the Republic does with 00:54:57.885 --> 00:55:05.720 - them and whatnot. So I found that interesting. And they are interested, Coca-Cola is interested 00:55:05.720 --> 00:55:10.046 - in potentially doing something in Monroe County with 00:55:11.074 --> 00:55:17.736 - some sort of sustainability stuff, maybe with IU, with tailgates. So I know IU is meeting with them 00:55:17.736 --> 00:55:24.731 - at some point in time, this month or next month. So hopefully there'll be something that they have done, 00:55:24.731 --> 00:55:31.660 - something with IU's Indianapolis campus last year. And they have done something previously with Clemson 00:55:31.660 --> 00:55:38.655 - University and that tailgate. So hopefully something can come out of that. That could consolidate, would 00:55:38.655 --> 00:55:40.254 - be trying to fund that. 00:55:40.578 --> 00:55:49.447 - So there might be more opportunities. Yeah, that's good. Thanks for that. Do you have anything in particular? 00:55:49.447 --> 00:55:57.510 - I really enjoyed the land trust. The meditation was on Tuesday and I found that really informative. 00:55:57.510 --> 00:56:05.814 - There's a lot more types of land trust out there than I was expecting. There's a lot more of them that 00:56:05.814 --> 00:56:06.782 - are active. 00:56:09.666 --> 00:56:20.188 - And as a director, the attorney from the coordinating group, who was basically the association's lobbyist 00:56:20.188 --> 00:56:30.214 - arm, spoke on Wednesday afternoon and talked about some of the legislative changes that occurred and 00:56:30.214 --> 00:56:37.758 - the impacts that those are going to have. Things I wasn't aware of at ATRL. 00:56:38.690 --> 00:56:46.065 - subject to them until sometime in 26 or 27. But once I got asked what happened this year, I guess I 00:56:46.065 --> 00:56:53.515 - didn't read far enough into the film to see, oh, there's another requirement a year later. So that's 00:56:53.515 --> 00:57:00.964 - not what I was doing. That was important. But I enjoyed it, but I needed to hear it. I'll add that I 00:57:00.964 --> 00:57:05.758 - also thought it was informative. And I would say I did enjoy it. 00:57:07.234 --> 00:57:15.914 - but I also don't have to deal with the consequences of it as directly. And I was saying, I didn't understand 00:57:15.914 --> 00:57:24.275 - all of it. Well, thank you for attending as well and for hearing our summary for those who already knew. 00:57:24.275 --> 00:57:32.477 - I always get a lot of value out of it. I really enjoyed it a good bit. I thought all the sessions were 00:57:32.477 --> 00:57:35.742 - really good to share, man, if not a bit. 00:57:37.250 --> 00:57:45.800 - if somebody directed it, if somebody like me, but I think that all the sessions, somebody got something. 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:54.268 - That's it. Yeah. All right. So that's it for our one item of new business. I do have one more item that 00:57:54.268 --> 00:58:02.492 - I want to note that just came to mind when talking about the board meeting and end of year stuff. We 00:58:02.492 --> 00:58:05.342 - should have a second joint meeting 00:58:05.602 --> 00:58:12.809 - We talked about, we have done one around the budget. We're gonna do one around the end of the year. 00:58:12.809 --> 00:58:20.160 - Yeah. Good try. Okay. So I will say, you know, in recent years, we've actually been pretty good about 00:58:20.160 --> 00:58:27.656 - that, but that's not always been the case. And that is certainly not the case for every district. Sure. 00:58:27.656 --> 00:58:34.142 - But again, we can't put it out there. I know we're running short on time, but I will also 00:58:34.274 --> 00:58:41.658 - Uh, I guess I got that cause should, could or should have said to him, I just report that with one of 00:58:41.658 --> 00:58:49.115 - the things we talked about the later year or joint meeting being what your plan, which would be up for 00:58:49.115 --> 00:58:56.645 - update this year. However, item is working on a new statewide materials management plan, which is going 00:58:56.645 --> 00:59:01.278 - to replace the state's current solid waste management plan. So, 00:59:02.178 --> 00:59:09.170 - I'm not sure that it makes sense for us to put the time and effort into updating our plan. If a year 00:59:09.170 --> 00:59:16.163 - from now, it's going to be moved because of what the state, new directions the state's trying to go. 00:59:16.163 --> 00:59:23.086 - So, doesn't necessarily excuse us from having a required joint meeting, but that was the topic that 00:59:23.086 --> 00:59:30.494 - as I recall that was discussed for that joint meeting. I'm not sure that's the best use of time right now. 00:59:33.506 --> 00:59:42.020 - Yeah, I saw that email on Tuesday, I think, and that contains that article that changed. I personally 00:59:42.020 --> 00:59:50.533 - didn't have a chance to read it yet, but unfortunately all of our time is already well spent on other 00:59:50.533 --> 00:59:58.963 - things, but I thought that may be a good item for our next meeting agenda. The state is nowhere near 00:59:58.963 --> 01:00:00.382 - adopting a plan. 01:00:05.026 --> 01:00:11.499 - Any thoughts on timing for, if we were to do a joint meeting, is just the usual target, our CAC or board 01:00:11.499 --> 01:00:17.850 - meetings to do sort of back to back. Is that generally where it comes from? I'd say the December board 01:00:17.850 --> 01:00:24.200 - meeting, I mean, the CAC meeting starts to butt up against Christmas break. I don't know the plans for 01:00:24.200 --> 01:00:30.365 - that. Right, okay. Okay. Monday's more sensitive in December, is what you're saying, because. Well, 01:00:30.365 --> 01:00:33.694 - at this point, yeah, I think it's been hard to. Okay. 01:00:34.594 --> 01:00:42.854 - It is a first step to see with the board. It's a lot easier to get the board to commit to something 01:00:42.854 --> 01:00:51.115 - face to face email about that. Okay, that's all I had on that. Any other thoughts or any items that 01:00:51.115 --> 01:00:59.458 - weren't previously mentioned? Alright, well, that brings us to public comment. I don't see anyone in 01:00:59.458 --> 01:01:00.862 - the room or see. 01:01:03.010 --> 01:01:09.997 - Nope. Okay. It's nobody else on the meeting either. Okay. So no members of the public present. So just 01:01:09.997 --> 01:01:17.458 - make a reminder that our next scheduled regular meeting would be November 20th, 530. That's not Thanksgiving, 01:01:17.458 --> 01:01:24.377 - right? Uh, no, I think it's the week before. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah. We should have checked that during 01:01:24.377 --> 01:01:31.838 - our meeting. Beginning of the year review of calendar. So, okay. Thank you. So, yes, that is when our meeting 01:01:31.938 --> 01:01:38.590 - The schedule. And it will be in this room. If there are no objections, we will mature.