I'm not sure if you guys had started or not, but the mic keeps cutting in and out. We can't really hear
anything on this end. Can you hear me now? Yeah, now I can hear you. I wasn't sure if he had started
and the mic was just really weak or or not. OK, well, I don't know. I know that the last meeting I had
in here a couple of weeks ago we did have some issues with sound on the owl so. But sound good now. OK,
Then without all the detail, I will just repeat for people that might have missed that starting on Monday,
we will make the landfill property available for woody and vegetative debris from last night's tornado.
So starting Monday from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. facility will be open for people to bring woody and vegetative
debris so they can get it out of their way. The camera is also off as well. That's part of it.
again now. There we go. I did talk about some some staffing turnover that we're having that announced
CAC member John Arnold has accepted position of controller replacing our current controller we resigned
and as a result of that we'll be resigning from the CAC
Nobody's comfortable with him being both the controller of the district and a member of the CAC. Then
it was getting into our budget. As I said, 2025 General Assembly passed a property tax reform bill that,
to put it bluntly from my perception, nobody really seems to understand the full impact of.
And since about two thirds of our annual revenue is for property taxes, it's hard to put a budget together
without knowing what the tax, what the estimate is about tax revenue in a given year. We do have our
budget workshop with DLGF on July 17th.
So at the very least, we will have good numbers to move forward with after that meeting. But unfortunately,
that does fall after the July board meeting where we generally do the first presentation of the budget
to the board, which is a first version. And it does sometimes change between that and the August meeting
and the board.
would vote to approve submitting the budget to the County Council for adoption. But we'll get it done,
we always get it done and we'll have a budget for 27, one way shape or form. Other than that, I don't,
oh, I will, I guess go ahead and announce
I hope Jacob's is aware. We are going to pilot taking hard to recycle plastics to the Hefty Renew program
at our South Walnut facility beginning in July. So for those who aren't aware, the Hefty Renew program
is a program that Hefty Company has started.
where you have to purchase bags, hefty, renewed bags, which unfortunately at this time, because the
program's not here, aren't available locally, but can be purchased online through Amazon. I believe,
I know Walmart has them through online. I believe you should be able to get them delivered to the local
store. So there are some online options to purchase the bags. And, you know, hard to recycle plastics,
straw slits, styrofoam, plastic bags, things like that are accepted to that program. What we've worked
out with the Rumpke representatives is those bags will just go in with our commingled plastics and will
be sorted out at the sorting facility by Rumpke down the road. So we're gonna start filing that in July
and we'll see where that goes. Did you know that? Yes.
That's the same one we're doing in Cincinnati? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Rumpi is currently doing the renew program
in the greater Cincinnati area. And beyond that, I'm not sure. A new pilot in Cincinnati. Yeah. And
since ultimately our plastics wind up in Cincinnati, on that side of it, it doesn't seem like logistically
a big deal to do it.
The bags are going to be compacted at our sites, and then taken to the local facility, put on a semi-truck
to sense if there's some concern about are the bags going to hold up through all the transportation
process and all of that. And obviously, Ramkey wants the bags intact when they get to that facility
so they don't contaminate the other plastics that are going to be processed there. But we're going to pilot it.
Hopefully it works and it's successful, and if so, we'll expand it to other facilities. If it doesn't,
unfortunately it doesn't. I'm not sure you can do without that. And a similar question about that, you
said hard plastics? Hard to recycle. Which is actually probably going to be mostly softer plastics.
booth again at the fair this year where we will have more announcements and more information about the
Renew program available. It will be sometime after the fair that we'll start rolling that program out.
And I got that. I don't know if we have a whole lot of the normal that's going on. Happy to answer any
questions. Any questions?
I do have one. I found the executive committee meeting very interesting around the batteries and the
challenges of the fire department bringing a burnt-up car electric battery. How do you guys deal with
that? Is there any plans for additional education with lithium ion and keeping those separate? I feel
like especially with vapes and a lot of those are lithium and
shock those I'm sure you yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
For some procedural, it had really good support, but for some procedural reasons, in a short session,
it wound up not getting out of committee because it got assigned to a second committee and there wasn't
time for that committee to hear it. So we do anticipate that. We're very similar to legislation coming
back beginning of next year and the next legislative session.
And what that legislation proposes to do is put some mandates regarding how waste lithium-ion batteries
are handled. And it, in essence, imposes what's termed extended producer responsibility on manufacturers
and distributors of the batteries, where they'll be able to put up money
how exactly that will be managed. I think it's just an ending workout, but the money we put up will
probably create what's called a batteries stewardship organization, something for that VSO, something
to that effect. And then those funds will be made available to the collectors and all the people that
have to deal with these waste batteries once the users of them need to get rid of them.
that will hopefully keep them out of the waste stream, have them packaged in such a manner that limits
the hazards they pose when they're being transported. So for that reason, anything that we do right
now is going to be viewed as a temporary, education-wise or fee-wise or anything like that is temporary
because we hope that
that legislation will go through in the next session and that will create funding that will be available
that will change the way that we manage them on our end and the cost associated with that. Very interesting.
Just working in the mines with all the vapes. I know. Just for general information for anybody, we don't
take vapes because unfortunately we can't
determine what's in the faith. And we're not dealing with illegal substances. We do not accept them
unfortunately because we don't want to have things in our possession that are illegal issues and
So yeah, vapes are still lithium ion and a whole different animal altogether, though, than just the
battery by itself. Got it. I guess I was thinking one of the negative basements. Yeah, but there are
others out there, unfortunately. So that's a whole other challenge for the industry to deal with that
compared to all the other lithium ions. Yeah. Got it. OK. Thank you. Any other questions? OK.
Moving on, chair report, not much to report. So we will move on to reports of special committees, nothing,
special orders, nothing, unfinished business and general orders. So we've got the 2077 CSE budget request.
Last year, we had $500 for other supplies, $500 for travel, $350 for other rentals. That was to be in the
farmers market and they're trying to recruit and then $1,500 for training and education which typically
goes towards the Association of Indian Assault Race Management Districts conference. You certainly aren't
restricted to that event for the use of the money. Thank you for the clarification. I don't see any
reason to change any of that outside of maybe the other rentals
I don't plan on going to the farmers market to recruit this year. Does anybody see any reason to change
the budget as it stands?
So as you can see, right here, we've got other supplies later. And then we've got 500 travel. Okay.
350 for other rentals and the turnings change to 500. So does anybody see any reason to change any of that?
I mean, obviously, I can't too far away from my old eyes to read. But obviously, there's a number of
other lines up there. And so those are the lines that the CDC has historically budgeted out of. But
if anybody has an idea for all the things to do that there might be a cost associated with, by all means,
you know, throw it out and I can help you determine what line it would be appropriate to request an
appropriation form.
Thank you for that clarification. There we go. Is there all the difference? And those are your other
revenue lines now. Okay. And you guys don't get paid, so the person actually said that they're relevant.
We don't need uniforms. These would be another potential
So if there's no changes, do I hear a motion to approve the existing budget as soon on the screen share?
Can I ask a clarification? Yeah. You talked about the other end of the line and said you don't intend
to go to the farmers market to recruit. Does anybody else?
Or do you think any new members that might come? I guess I just, are we leaving that in there or? I
guess we're leaving it in there in case somebody wants to, in case I should. Which is fine. I'm just
asking for clarification because we've got that out. Okay, so any other, any changes? I think we're
fine, that's all we have.
So do I hear a motion to approve the budget request as seen on the screen here? I have a motion to approve.
Give me a second. Okay. Okay.
since everybody's here in person, we can do a voice vote. All those in favor, say aye. All those abstaining,
say abstain. All those
I'll probably say no. The ayes have it. The budget request is approved. Yes, it's approved. Okay, back
to the agenda.
We're now down to new business with the joint meeting with the board of directors, which has to be done
twice a year. And we normally do that in July. What we do, we normally do one meeting in July so that
the board and the CAC can review the next year's proposed budget together and discuss that. So we generally
do that either
piggybacked on the July board meeting and the July CAC meeting so that that occurs before the board
actually votes on it. One of the caveat in that is the statute does also require that the CAC provide
the board with written comments regarding the proposed budget before the vote. So generally we do the
board meeting and then into the joint meeting after that
or at the CAC meeting, we do the joint meeting before, and then so that after the joint meeting, the
CAC meets, you can have your own discussion, regard without the board present, and then out of that
meeting, approve any written comments that would then be provided to me to include at the board pack
until the August board meeting. And I will say I did, I pulled the board members right now,
I have a quorum available to meet at the board meeting on July 9th, is that right? Yeah, July 9th. I
do not have a quorum confirmed to meet 16th at this time. Which is the next year's meeting. Yeah. So
then that begs the question, can we be able to have quorum at the tomorrow night meeting with the board
after the board's meeting
Mr. Harwood will no longer be a member, so we'll be down to. Yeah, and what will probably happen, but
we have the two pending requests. Right. So if the board, assuming the board approves those appointments
to the CAC, those appointments will probably be made with an effective date of July 10th, so that they
don't impact quorum.
at the, so if there's a joint meeting on the night, those discussions, we don't have any guarantees
that they'll be present or available to be present at that time, so. So you would, you would need three
for a quorum. I would ask, let me ask the legal, John technically might still be a member, but
It's still three out of five. It should be three, yeah. When should my effective date of resigning be?
It should be the 9th or the 10th. Once the board ratifies your hire, then you will... Not that you're
not officially the controller now, but then it's all...
It's the board, the controller reports directly to the board. So the controller is the board's hire.
They delegated the authority to make that hire to get somebody in place to the chair with the condition
that the candidate be brought back to the full board at the next meeting for the hire to be ratified.
So until the full board ratifies the hiring decision,
There's not a need for you to resign from the CAC. But that will happen. We assume that will happen
at the July board meeting prior to the joint team. OK, so with the quorum of the board on July 9 from
4 to 5, it's in the Nathill year room. That does County Courthouse. I am available for that.
and Jacob, is that something that you can either make in person or? It has to be in person. It does
have to be in person. Okay, thank you. Account 44, you have to be physically present. Okay. If it starts
my schedule now, I would be available. Okay. That would take place, we'd have the CAC meeting afterwards
and that would take place at the 16th meeting. So the board will meet at four o'clock on the night.
We would schedule the joint meeting for
five o'clock on the night. And then the CDC will have its regular meeting on the 16th, where you can
discuss the budget amongst yourselves without the board present and develop any comments to provide
to the board. Thank you for that clarification. So it'll be two weeks next month. Got you. So is that
something that you want? Yeah, check my schedule. I shouldn't be in the meeting.
based on the three of us, we won't make one outside of it. I will advise the board and we'll get that.
What was the time again? At five p.m. And what we'll probably do is in order to get through the board's
business because they canceled the June meeting, I will not present the budget at the board meeting
or hold that off and just present it during the joint meeting. I'm sure everybody will see it for the
first time.
together. And you expect the board meeting will go in full power. We might be down a little bit early
and want to start at that. Just asking for it. It'll go to full on. Okay. They may table some items
to the following month to end in five. Okay. They canceled the June meeting so we got to get through
the grant applications. There's a lot of stuff.
And even if for some reason they were to end at 445, we'll hold sit and wait until we'll advertise the
joint meeting to start at five. But we won't start at 445, we'll start at 5 o'clock. And then I guess
one last caveat that we will have a board forum until at least 545.
Beyond that, I don't know what'll happen. That's when they, you know, they're all available at a certain
time. And that's the first one said 545. So depending on how many show up, we may or may not use them
all at that time. Any other questions on that? Okay. We'll move on to the Association of Neon Solid
Waste Management District Retreat, October 13th and 14th. Just wanted to get an initial idea of who
was interested in attending.
So we can then, we'll have to deal with the budget once that's approved. No, we already have the budget
for this year. So we just have to approve who's going, so the response can be applied. And that was
just the... Yeah, and I don't know, the association, obviously they're planning to retrieve right now.
I don't know anything about registration fees at this point.
There's generally a lower fee for early bird registration and accommodate bird bumps up a little bit.
If everybody on the CAC wants to go, I generally would exceed the CAC's budget, but again, that's happened
in the past and the district's been able to cover it.
I know I've always enjoyed it and learned a fair amount as well. It's in Springville State Park, so
it isn't on this side of the state. I have to go to Indianapolis or something like that, so I know I'm
interested.
Um, so, um, is anybody else interested in just to kind of have an initial idea that we have any questions
about? Okay. Yeah. And for Jacob, I don't run. He generally is represented at the association. That's
run people, not as members of CACs. You may have to talk to. Yeah, it would be about having one attendance.
They plan to do. Okay.
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It doesn't appear there's any public comments. Any announcements that you'd like to make? No. When do
we typically do the adopter road and clean up? I've been driving down that road and been wondering about
it. I saw somebody out there today picking up trash, and I thought, hey, that's our job. There is. It
was usually late summer, maybe? From my recollection, there's no set schedule. The program asks for
four cleanups a year.
Not all roads need four cleanups a year, blow pockets into that as well, but. It's been a while since
the AC has done one. We do it every day. Yeah, so it's south Walnut, south of the Crow country. From
the Crow country to the Valley nursery.
Yeah, it usually takes an hour and a half, two hours. In the past, we've been fortunate enough to have
a team on each side of the road, so we usually drive down to the nursery and just cover both sides of
the road going back towards Crowder's. So I'll put that in the agenda for next month. Okay. We can look
at what we do with all the hot melts, probably not. You can try and do that during the morning anyways.
Yeah, I mean, it could be an early fall or something like that. Okay.
So we do something. We have done it annually. We typically get several bags of trash. Yeah. And I found
a waste reduction district magnet one time. And it's in the garage now. Well, I will say, I mean, you
guys are, I mean, it's better now because when they were doing the 69 construction, for some reason,
of course, the Hoosier disposal was the only transfer station in town at that, and that became
a main drag for the hauling trucks going to that transfer station with stories known under construction.
And their stuff coming off the trucks. Any other announcements, anything else that we want to bring
up? No? Okay. The next regular meeting is Thursday, July 16th. And that's here, Shatters Building North
Room 106D. And then as a reminder, we're also gonna have the joint meeting on Thursday, July 9th.
from five to six in the Halloween room in the county courthouse. And if there's no objection, this meeting
will adjourn. Seeing none, this meeting is adjourned.