WEBVTT 00:00:00.482 --> 00:00:09.492 - I will call to order this regular meeting of the Waste Reduction District of Monroe County Citizens 00:00:09.492 --> 00:00:18.591 - Advisory Committee. This is the fourth Thursday of October, the 22nd, 2026 at 5.31 PM. Will the Vice 00:00:18.591 --> 00:00:28.862 - Chair please call roll? Yes. Matt Austin? Present. Liz Carter? Allison Sears? Present. Jacob Youngblood? Present. 00:00:29.794 --> 00:00:39.470 - Joe Sears, present. Bradley Lucas, present. All right. We have quorum. Thank you, Vice Chair. Today's 00:00:39.470 --> 00:00:49.809 - agenda was distributed on Tuesday, October 20th, 2026, as seen on the screen chair. Are there any objections 00:00:49.809 --> 00:00:56.734 - to adopting agenda as distributed and shown in the current screen chair? 00:01:04.610 --> 00:01:16.223 - Hearing none, the agenda is approved. All right, now on to meeting minutes. We have the approval of 00:01:16.223 --> 00:01:28.069 - meeting minutes from a joint meeting, July 9th, 2026. Let me get those up on the screen share. Let me 00:01:28.069 --> 00:01:32.830 - get that on the share. It's not sharing. 00:01:33.954 --> 00:02:01.022 - Now, if I cannot get up on the screen. 00:02:04.002 --> 00:02:25.963 - Are there any corrections that anybody noticed when leading through the minutes? There we go. Not a 00:02:25.963 --> 00:02:32.990 - short amount of minutes either. 00:02:35.266 --> 00:02:44.611 - So this is looking at the joint meeting and went through the budget and all of that. Okay. So I take 00:02:44.611 --> 00:02:53.863 - it there are no corrections to be made. If there are no questions, then the minutes are approved as 00:02:53.863 --> 00:03:03.670 - correct. I mean, as seen here and distributed last week. All right. Moving on, reports from the district. 00:03:03.670 --> 00:03:05.150 - Send your time. 00:03:06.722 --> 00:03:18.978 - Tuesday, the County Council formally adopted all of the budget, including our budget for next year. 00:03:18.978 --> 00:03:29.150 - It was adopted as presented. It gets us set to move into next year. I think that I 00:03:30.114 --> 00:03:38.130 - A few months ago, I mentioned, you know, we had a bunch of roll-off containers that needed repair or 00:03:38.130 --> 00:03:46.146 - replacement actually prepares it for getting approaching replacement costs. I think we'd have 10. So 00:03:46.146 --> 00:03:54.083 - we have 10 new boxes that have been purchased and delivered. Rumpke is storing us to those at their 00:03:54.083 --> 00:03:58.686 - facility and getting them into rotation at the sites. And 00:03:59.362 --> 00:04:07.943 - We have 10 or maybe 12 boxes. We're going to pull out a service at either auction off or scrap. Then 00:04:07.943 --> 00:04:16.610 - we have money budgeted next year, I think, to get eight more boxes. So hopefully that will solve some 00:04:16.610 --> 00:04:25.361 - of our issues with maintenance on boxes and residents should start to see some shiny new boxes showing 00:04:25.361 --> 00:04:27.230 - up at our facilities. 00:04:28.738 --> 00:04:37.138 - And I think other than that, things are going pretty good right now. Winding the year down and getting 00:04:37.138 --> 00:04:45.294 - ready to get all of our year end stuff in order. At the board meeting in November, we'll present to 00:04:45.294 --> 00:04:53.531 - them the proposed holiday schedule for next year for the raise in salary workings for next year. Try 00:04:53.531 --> 00:04:57.854 - to get this year wrapped up and move into next year. 00:05:00.610 --> 00:05:10.980 - Do you have any questions? Congratulations on getting through another year's budget. Any other questions, 00:05:10.980 --> 00:05:21.057 - comments? What's the increase in your salary ordinance? 3.5%. How long do those bosses typically last? 00:05:21.057 --> 00:05:29.470 - The ones that we're taking out of service are anywhere from 20 to 30 years old. Nice. 00:05:30.146 --> 00:05:37.417 - That's, that's, that's yeah. Uh, we should have done this sooner than we did, but we'll get into that. 00:05:37.417 --> 00:05:44.616 - And then they're replacing because they're rusting because. Yeah, they rust. Um, that's predominantly 00:05:44.616 --> 00:05:52.311 - what it is. And then of course, you know, depending on where the rust is, when they get loaded and unloaded, 00:05:52.311 --> 00:05:57.534 - that can create other damage and just, uh, with costs of metal and labor. 00:05:59.906 --> 00:06:13.457 - paying six plus thousand dollars to repair a box of a new place for eight. So that makes sense. 00:06:13.457 --> 00:06:28.702 - All right. Any other questions? All right. Thank you, Tom. Moving on. I do not have a report. So moving on. 00:06:32.322 --> 00:06:42.875 - We said for the last meeting was pink. Yeah, the last executive committee meeting it was pink. Nobody's 00:06:42.875 --> 00:06:53.327 - playing with the color theme on the computer. So there are no special reports from special committees, 00:06:53.327 --> 00:07:00.734 - no special orders, no unfinished business. So we are on to new business. 00:07:01.602 --> 00:07:15.253 - And we have Meredith Katz with RetroCycle joining us. And could you please give her sharing capabilities 00:07:15.253 --> 00:07:24.094 - in case she has anything to share? Meredith, she's with RetroCycle. 00:07:24.610 --> 00:07:34.132 - co-founder and CEO. She is from Indianapolis, as well as a graduate of IU. She shared this innovative 00:07:34.132 --> 00:07:43.655 - idea with Beecauser and something they're doing out in Colorado. I think it's a good idea to consider 00:07:43.655 --> 00:07:50.750 - for the future. So, Meredith? She may not have a mic. She may not have any. 00:07:51.138 --> 00:08:11.784 - Can you please give Meredith audio and video and sharing capabilities? I guess I could do that. 00:08:11.784 --> 00:08:19.742 - There you are. Hey, can you hear me? 00:08:20.930 --> 00:08:27.564 - We can hear you. Awesome. Pleasure to be here. Pleasure to meet you all. Justin, thank you for having 00:08:27.564 --> 00:08:34.068 - me. I'm excited to talk to you about what I'm working on in Colorado. And yes, proud to be a Huger, 00:08:34.068 --> 00:08:40.638 - and with Justin Bloomington, and it was great to be back. I'm going to go ahead and share screen. If 00:08:40.638 --> 00:08:47.272 - I am able, would I be able to share a presentation and get sharing capabilities? I don't know why you 00:08:47.272 --> 00:08:50.654 - can't be able to share capabilities. What was that? 00:08:50.882 --> 00:09:02.966 - I don't know why you don't have the option to get with a share capability. We are trying to. We're trying 00:09:02.966 --> 00:09:13.682 - to give you share capabilities, let's see. All right. Can you all see my screen? There we go. 00:09:13.682 --> 00:09:19.838 - We got it. Awesome, I'll jump in. Well, how do y'all? 00:09:20.002 --> 00:09:26.878 - I'm Meredith and I am the CEO of RetroCycle. We are a nonprofit that is focused on building circular 00:09:26.878 --> 00:09:33.687 - systems to replace disposable ones in the space of to-go wear. So what I'm holding here without the 00:09:33.687 --> 00:09:40.904 - lid is the Colorado Go Cup, where you can see this is a reusable to-go cup that is shared by cafes across 00:09:40.904 --> 00:09:48.189 - the state of Colorado. And our mission in five words, like I said, is to build circular systems to replace 00:09:48.189 --> 00:09:49.278 - disposable ones 00:09:49.570 --> 00:09:56.235 - little bit over five words. And our vision is a future single use is obsolete, that that's an old way 00:09:56.235 --> 00:10:02.835 - of doing things. And the new way of doing things is a borrow and return network. Now, why we started 00:10:02.835 --> 00:10:09.566 - this in the first place is we were hired by the town of Breckenridge to come and build out what is the 00:10:09.566 --> 00:10:16.166 - pilot of the Colorado CUT program. Because in Breckenridge, they have a specific single issue with a 00:10:16.166 --> 00:10:17.342 - landfill capacity 00:10:19.458 --> 00:10:29.280 - And on Main Street in Breckenridge, where there's 15,000 residents and 2 million visitors, coffee cups 00:10:29.280 --> 00:10:39.102 - make up 37% of trash, and they also make up 27% of recycling. And so then they're not able to recycle. 00:10:39.234 --> 00:10:47.299 - those bins and it's causing an issue. And so the town has tried to do different reasonable cut programs, 00:10:47.299 --> 00:10:55.594 - but ultimately they went with ours, which I'll share with why in a little bit over. So why not compostable? 00:10:55.594 --> 00:10:58.590 - Well, compostable is still single use. 00:10:58.722 --> 00:11:05.597 - It needs the right composting infrastructure, which just isn't available out here in Summit County. 00:11:05.597 --> 00:11:12.748 - And you still need a cup for every new sip, as we know. And unfortunately, most people just don't bring 00:11:12.748 --> 00:11:19.967 - their own cup. We actually collected data from this for a cafe over a year, and 2% of their transactions 00:11:19.967 --> 00:11:26.430 - of to-go cups were transactions where people brought their own cup. And so we were attempting 00:11:26.594 --> 00:11:32.978 - asks with question of how do we enable a visitor to enjoy Colorado without the single use. And more 00:11:32.978 --> 00:11:39.426 - importantly, how do we make it cool? How do we make it a moment where people actually want to engage 00:11:39.426 --> 00:11:46.194 - with it? And so thus we, with the town of Brecken Ranch and other municipalities around the state created 00:11:46.194 --> 00:11:52.770 - what's called Colorado Cup program. So one, like I said, one to go reusable cup shared by cafes across 00:11:52.770 --> 00:11:54.238 - the state that you can 00:11:54.338 --> 00:12:01.080 - borrow and return. And as you can see on that cup is a QR code. And that leads to a map where you can 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:07.821 - look up all the different cafes that you can return it to. So as I mentioned, we are a barn, a borrow 00:12:07.821 --> 00:12:14.629 - and return network. And we're not the first barn in the world. In fact, they exist all over the world. 00:12:14.629 --> 00:12:19.454 - You might be familiar with these. In Germany, where we did our research, 00:12:19.554 --> 00:12:25.847 - There is a barn that is 20,000 establishments deep across two different countries. It's not uncommon 00:12:25.847 --> 00:12:32.328 - for you to go on an airplane in Germany and see people even with these cups, taking them to a different 00:12:32.328 --> 00:12:38.870 - city with them and able to return them. They're across Ireland, they're across Australia, they're across 00:12:38.870 --> 00:12:45.538 - parts of Asia. And what we realized is really what's important to build behavior change is really building 00:12:45.538 --> 00:12:49.214 - the infrastructure to support it, AKA for Reeves to become 00:12:49.986 --> 00:12:56.230 - of least resistance. And so there are three things that we identified that allowed these systems to 00:12:56.230 --> 00:13:02.599 - scale so widely. They're tech free. There's no app to download. There's no account. It's like an old, 00:13:02.599 --> 00:13:08.531 - it's basically a modernized milk bottle system that my parents used. And so, and they all rely 00:13:08.531 --> 00:13:15.025 - on polypropylene, which is plastic number five, as we all know for the durability and the cost. They're 00:13:15.025 --> 00:13:18.334 - affordable. So most people can pay between two to $5 00:13:18.754 --> 00:13:25.330 - cup and refundable. And there's an element of public partnership as well with local single use policy. 00:13:25.330 --> 00:13:31.971 - And so when we built out the first statewide network, we take these different ingredients and make sure 00:13:31.971 --> 00:13:38.419 - they were embedded Colorado cup. So our system is tech free. All of the washing is decentralized. So 00:13:38.419 --> 00:13:44.868 - whenever I return a cup to, so the way it works is if I want to borrow Colorado cup, I go to a cafe, 00:13:44.868 --> 00:13:47.422 - I ask for my coffee and a Colorado cup. 00:13:47.746 --> 00:13:55.534 - I paid 250 deposit. When I'm done with that cup, I return it to a cafe in the network and I get my 250 00:13:55.534 --> 00:14:03.170 - back as a discount on a purchase. And then they wash that cup, restock it and the whole cycle starts 00:14:03.170 --> 00:14:06.270 - again. And so we also made our cost 250. 00:14:06.434 --> 00:14:12.667 - And we also partner with different municipalities as well on this across the state. And so some of them 00:14:12.667 --> 00:14:18.780 - provide subsidies. So some of them are providing the cups for free or the first case of cups for free 00:14:18.780 --> 00:14:25.073 - so that different businesses can try the program. So a little bit about the queue is we artwork on these 00:14:25.073 --> 00:14:28.190 - cups. We really want to tie a sense of place to it. 00:14:28.834 --> 00:14:36.509 - We found a local artist here to design the cup. And like I mentioned, there's a cafe map on every cup 00:14:36.509 --> 00:14:44.108 - and these are tested to a thousand washes. So a little bit of the experience is when you pull out of 00:14:44.108 --> 00:14:50.654 - it in English and Spanish, we have an element of surprise where you can, if you don't, 00:14:50.914 --> 00:14:56.182 - Where you want to go, you can spin the wheel and it'll tell you which cafe to return to. And then we 00:14:56.182 --> 00:15:01.660 - have also the cafe map and you'll see that these are all independent cafes as well. And so that's really 00:15:01.660 --> 00:15:06.302 - important to us is to support and unite all the independent businesses across the state. 00:15:08.002 --> 00:15:14.436 - So here's a little bit of the program in action since the summer. So as you can see, what we have seen 00:15:14.436 --> 00:15:21.058 - is that if we can make a reuse system work in a town like Breckenridge, but there's only 15,000 residents 00:15:21.058 --> 00:15:27.368 - and 2 million visitors that are here for an average of three to four days, we can get a reuse system 00:15:27.368 --> 00:15:33.615 - work anywhere. It has to be so simple that someone who's dropping into this town for three days can 00:15:33.615 --> 00:15:36.926 - use it. And so that's exactly what we've been seeing 00:15:37.058 --> 00:15:43.526 - these two visitors from North Carolina and Kansas. And so different, these are just a few different 00:15:43.526 --> 00:15:50.446 - pictures of the cup in action. And so let's talk about, talk about how the program's doing and the results 00:15:50.446 --> 00:15:57.043 - thus far. We launched a Memorial Day weekend. We have had over 750 borrows that makes up about 10% of 00:15:57.043 --> 00:16:04.222 - reduction. So if you count those one to one, we've seen about 2% reduction in single use to go cups. Our goal, 00:16:04.482 --> 00:16:11.072 - is to get to 20%. So right now our nonprofits on a mission called Mission 220. And so we're doing different 00:16:11.072 --> 00:16:17.357 - activations and marketing to get that there. And then earn rate, we hypothesize it would be around 10% 00:16:17.357 --> 00:16:23.520 - in a mountain town like Breckenridge where people are there for a few days. Well, it's been close to 00:16:23.520 --> 00:16:29.621 - 40%. And so that has really surprised us and we see it's a strong start. So that means a little bit 00:16:29.621 --> 00:16:32.062 - over one in three cups are coming back. 00:16:32.354 --> 00:16:38.236 - We want that to be closer to two to three out of two to three cups, and that's something that we're 00:16:38.236 --> 00:16:44.118 - working on. So some of the learnings that we have found is that a wide convenient network to return 00:16:44.118 --> 00:16:50.000 - to is just important as a reusable product, which I'll talk to you about with Bloomington here in a 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:55.941 - moment in Monroe County. Adoption is strongest when people are invited to participate. So you'll see 00:16:55.941 --> 00:17:01.470 - that when you're at it and you come to Breckenridge, you'll get asked, do you want that here? 00:17:01.570 --> 00:17:07.976 - Or do you want that to go in a Colorado Cup? The verb is starting to shift here. We even have a ski 00:17:07.976 --> 00:17:14.511 - resort that is thinking about completely eliminating single use cups, where the only option for it to 00:17:14.511 --> 00:17:21.173 - go is a reusable to go cup, which is something that's pretty novel here, but not novel in certain parts 00:17:21.173 --> 00:17:27.836 - of Europe and other parts of the world. And then partnerships across resorts and independent businesses 00:17:27.836 --> 00:17:30.270 - and government is key to making reuse 00:17:31.586 --> 00:17:39.855 - The next thing I'll talk about, in addition to coffee cups really filling up our waste streams here, 00:17:39.855 --> 00:17:48.369 - is the next thing is pizza boxes. One pizzeria in Breckenridge goes through 15,000 boxes in one winter. 00:17:48.369 --> 00:17:56.802 - That's one pizzeria. So across the state, we just have this massive pizza issue, and there's a squeeze 00:17:56.802 --> 00:17:59.422 - with composting infrastructure. 00:17:59.714 --> 00:18:05.690 - It's not everywhere yet that we can really tap it at. And so we are working on a reusable pizza box 00:18:05.690 --> 00:18:12.025 - pilot and with the product that we're calling. And we're starting it off with ski schools because there's 00:18:12.025 --> 00:18:18.240 - a there and back route every single day of a hundred pizza boxes. And so we're putting these containers 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:24.275 - at resorts where scheme structures can then drop the reasonable boxes in the container. And then the 00:18:24.275 --> 00:18:28.638 - pizzeria picks up the boxes the next day and they're good to go. And so. 00:18:29.058 --> 00:18:36.499 - While we're really focused on coffee cups, we want to talk, we really want to think about what are all 00:18:36.499 --> 00:18:44.012 - areas of waste streams. And I know pizza, I mean, I ate a lot of pizza at IU during my day. So I'm sure 00:18:44.012 --> 00:18:49.502 - that it's also there too. Which brings me to why I'm here. The Indiana Cup. 00:18:51.586 --> 00:18:57.141 - The first two weeks we were now live in seven different municipalities. We just launched in Boulder 00:18:57.141 --> 00:19:02.696 - and we also are launching with CU Boulder. So it's kind of similar. We have this university town in 00:19:02.696 --> 00:19:08.473 - a city. And, uh, but we, in the first one, we were launching Frisco. There were two folks from the city 00:19:08.473 --> 00:19:14.250 - council of Bloomington who I met in line. And they said, this would be really interesting to talk about 00:19:14.250 --> 00:19:17.694 - in Bloomington. And then before you know it, you know, I was. 00:19:18.274 --> 00:19:25.321 - in Bloomington and now here we are. And earlier today I had a meeting with the head of IU Dining talking 00:19:25.321 --> 00:19:32.369 - about what could this look like on campus if we were to do a pilot in Bloomington, where on campus would 00:19:32.369 --> 00:19:39.148 - this really matter? Where would this really hit some heavy weight with waste? So we're talking about 00:19:39.148 --> 00:19:45.927 - Wells Library, we're talking about different things on campus. And so really the way that we look at 00:19:45.927 --> 00:19:47.806 - building out a reuse system 00:19:47.938 --> 00:19:55.286 - is with partnership. And so it's not just the university, it's not just the city, it's independent 00:19:55.286 --> 00:20:02.783 - businesses, it's us all working together to design a reuse system that really matches the flow. So I 00:20:02.783 --> 00:20:10.503 - think for next steps for Bloomington, the timeline that we're talking about is a little bit away. We're 00:20:10.503 --> 00:20:15.550 - talking a fall 2028 pilot. And so wanted to bring this here because 00:20:15.874 --> 00:20:23.561 - We're talking about waste reduction. I've presented a lot of waste reduction committees across Colorado. 00:20:23.561 --> 00:20:30.881 - And as we start to think about expanding, I feel a lot of pride about bringing this back to my home 00:20:30.881 --> 00:20:38.202 - state, about bringing this back to my home state. And I would love to hear your questions. I'm sure 00:20:38.202 --> 00:20:43.326 - you have some about how the systems could look like in Monroe County. 00:20:47.874 --> 00:20:55.462 - Thank you very much, Meredith, for your presentation. To start, any questions? Meredith, my name is 00:20:55.462 --> 00:21:03.201 - Thomas Glass and I'm the director for the Waste Reduction District here in Monroe County. And earlier 00:21:03.201 --> 00:21:11.093 - in your presentation, you made reference to some single use policies that some cities had. Can you kind 00:21:11.093 --> 00:21:17.694 - of describe what those are? Yes, exactly. So in some, in Colorado, so in Breckenridge, 00:21:20.098 --> 00:21:27.478 - you cannot get plastic water here. And so essentially that was why we started in Breckenridge. This 00:21:27.478 --> 00:21:35.153 - is not the case in every city that we have expanded to. So for example, that's not the case in Boulder. 00:21:35.153 --> 00:21:42.533 - We started with the cities and the towns that were the most aggressive on single use plastic policy 00:21:42.533 --> 00:21:49.470 - because they were the ones that really wanted to invest in a pilot and get it off the ground. 00:21:50.082 --> 00:21:57.553 - did the landfill crunch that they're experiencing mainly in Summit County. So that applies 00:21:57.553 --> 00:22:06.010 - to some municipalities, but not all that we're working with. I've got a question. Have you reached out 00:22:06.010 --> 00:22:14.385 - to either the Chamber of Commerce or the Bloomington Economic Development Council to kind of test the 00:22:14.385 --> 00:22:18.654 - waters on how interested local businesses would be? 00:22:21.346 --> 00:22:29.615 - No, I did when I always across Bloomington and had some conversations that people thought was pretty 00:22:29.615 --> 00:22:37.801 - interesting. Um, but that's really where it started. And so there's definitely interest. Um, but in 00:22:37.801 --> 00:22:47.134 - terms of like more concrete conversations have not continued those. Really important piece to nail down our goal. 00:22:47.426 --> 00:22:55.980 - is in every town there has to be 60%, 60 to 70% saturation. Meaning like at, it's offered at over majority 00:22:55.980 --> 00:23:04.054 - of cafes. So how many in Blooming, in Monroe County, how many would that be? Including the locations 00:23:04.054 --> 00:23:12.688 - at IU, like Collins Learning Living Center, they have their own, you know, coffee shop run by the students. 00:23:12.688 --> 00:23:15.006 - You mentioned Wells Library. 00:23:15.266 --> 00:23:23.164 - How many locations would you need for that to be that 60 to 70%? So without IU, we're talking around 00:23:23.164 --> 00:23:31.297 - 10. But with IU, we're talking closer to probably 15 to 17. Dining halls would not be included in this. 00:23:31.297 --> 00:23:39.274 - I confirm that today. It would be independent cafes on campus, like the Wells Library Cafe is a great 00:23:39.274 --> 00:23:44.670 - example. So not dining halls. So we're talking probably, I think 15. 00:23:45.186 --> 00:23:52.117 - 15 to 20 is ideal for a pilot in Bloomington. Gotcha. I guess the other thing that just popped up in 00:23:52.117 --> 00:23:59.048 - my mind with you guys doing CU Boulder, is there any idea, potential to do this with Greek life with 00:23:59.048 --> 00:24:06.254 - the fact that they have, I mean, they're not coffee shops, right? But they are, they probably have their 00:24:06.254 --> 00:24:09.342 - own coffee and they probably all single use. 00:24:11.298 --> 00:24:17.255 - Yeah, that's a great idea. We haven't looked into Greek life yet. We've been focusing on independent 00:24:17.255 --> 00:24:23.154 - establishments that are pushing like 500 cups a day sometimes. But I think that's a great move. And 00:24:23.154 --> 00:24:29.229 - so that's something that maybe those establishments could purchase those cups and have them available. 00:24:29.229 --> 00:24:32.414 - I think what's really important too is the integrity. 00:24:33.506 --> 00:24:40.291 - of the cup and the deposit. And so that's something that really careful about is like we're keeping 00:24:40.291 --> 00:24:47.416 - those in commercial places right now to maintain the integrity of them. Um, because with the Greek life, 00:24:47.416 --> 00:24:54.541 - what I would be concerned about is someone's like in three cups, right? And then that's worth something. 00:24:54.541 --> 00:25:01.733 - So that that's why we really stem in commercial is to keep the integrity of the system. That makes sense. 00:25:01.733 --> 00:25:03.294 - Um, I saw, I think in, 00:25:03.682 --> 00:25:11.221 - Some of the materials I look through that you guys are going through trash cans to find cups that were 00:25:11.221 --> 00:25:18.613 - thrown away and with 36% being returned any idea of where all those other cups are going. People are 00:25:18.613 --> 00:25:25.054 - just keeping them and we're using them on their own. That hypothesis from quality data. 00:25:25.410 --> 00:25:31.372 - that that's what people are doing. So we've heard from people like, oh, I use my cup all the time. Or 00:25:31.372 --> 00:25:37.627 - I took this home as a, as something memorable from my trip in Colorado and I'm raising it. Luckily they're 00:25:37.627 --> 00:25:43.706 - recyclable and end of life wherever number five is accepted. Um, which, um, I'm curious, is number five 00:25:43.706 --> 00:25:49.961 - accepted in Monroe County? Uh, for the, for the district and the vendor that we use. Yeah. I mean, that's, 00:25:49.961 --> 00:25:54.462 - it's a rigid, rigid plastic. So that would be acceptable throughout program. 00:25:55.202 --> 00:26:06.356 - Okay, that's great to know. Yeah, it does make sense that it would be a collectible or a souvenir. I 00:26:06.356 --> 00:26:17.509 - keep mine. Any other comments, questions? Okay, well, thank you very much for your presentation. And 00:26:17.509 --> 00:26:24.798 - I think it's a great idea. I personally hate single use plastics. 00:26:25.250 --> 00:26:33.404 - So, and then Justin, we're gonna move to you to kind of explain. So Justin is the chair for DECAUSER, 00:26:33.404 --> 00:26:41.799 - Commission on Sustainability and Resilience. And they had Meredith present in September. So he contacted 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:50.193 - the INSET Waste Reduction. So sounds like a good idea. Yeah, thanks Matt. Yeah, so Justin Vassel, moving 00:26:50.193 --> 00:26:54.750 - through the Commission on Sustainability and Resilience. 00:26:54.882 --> 00:27:01.060 - And for those that aren't familiar with us, we sort of focus in on sustainability, not just the environmental 00:27:01.060 --> 00:27:06.732 - aspect of it, but multidimensional, you know, the economic and societal aspects of sustainability as 00:27:06.732 --> 00:27:12.573 - well. But in this case, this is more of the environmental side of things. And, you know, our commission 00:27:12.573 --> 00:27:18.245 - has been focused quite a bit on the past on waste reduction. And that's a large part thanks to Matt, 00:27:18.245 --> 00:27:24.254 - who was on the commission for a while until earlier this year. And so when I found out about retrocycling, 00:27:24.354 --> 00:27:29.844 - when I got introduced to Meredith, that kind of perked my ears up as a really interesting concept, something 00:27:29.844 --> 00:27:35.082 - that could actually work here in Bloomington, I think. It's a little bit of a different space than some 00:27:35.082 --> 00:27:40.472 - of the cities that are rolling out there, which are, Breckenridge is a little more touristic, for example. 00:27:40.472 --> 00:27:45.559 - She mentioned 37% or something like that of, you know, all the waste was just coffee cups. You know, 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:50.747 - that number would probably be different here in Monroe County, but we also do have a major university, 00:27:50.747 --> 00:27:52.510 - so it might not be that different. 00:27:53.122 --> 00:28:00.498 - And so right away found what started looking into how we could support a pilot eventually coming here 00:28:00.498 --> 00:28:07.873 - at Bloomington. And this year in 2026, our commission had about $6,000 left over that we were looking 00:28:07.873 --> 00:28:10.910 - for a suitable project that we could use. 00:28:11.042 --> 00:28:16.809 - Thought about this one. So he sort of got to work really quick, putting together a proposal of what 00:28:16.809 --> 00:28:22.577 - a pilot might look like. And then, you know, realized that because, you know, this retro cycle is a 00:28:22.577 --> 00:28:28.344 - Colorado nonprofit that we would need some sort of local entity here in the area to be able to sort 00:28:28.344 --> 00:28:34.342 - of support that project kind of to receive the funds to partner with the cafes, retro cycle supporting, 00:28:34.342 --> 00:28:37.918 - you know, close to that. And so we had written up a proposal. 00:28:38.146 --> 00:28:43.857 - you know, looking for some organization to kind of serve that role and thought this organization might 00:28:43.857 --> 00:28:49.624 - be interested in something like that. But, you know, we did hit a snag, and so we're not actually going 00:28:49.624 --> 00:28:55.279 - to be able to get that money into place in time for 2026. So at the moment, not here with any sort of 00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:01.101 - concrete ask, mostly just wanting to kind of socialize this idea a little bit and get it on folks' radar 00:29:01.101 --> 00:29:02.654 - and start thinking ahead if 00:29:03.138 --> 00:29:08.782 - you know, if there is interest in like a 2028 pilot, like she was mentioning, you know, we could start 00:29:08.782 --> 00:29:14.371 - thinking about other groups to engage with. And, you know, I don't know if there's any sort of policy 00:29:14.371 --> 00:29:20.015 - solutions like the ones that they have over their single use kind of policy things, but that's another 00:29:20.015 --> 00:29:25.713 - thing to think about that could help kind of pave the way for these. And, yeah, again, we don't really, 00:29:25.713 --> 00:29:30.590 - I guess, at least I'm not aware of any recent studies that would tell us something about 00:29:30.786 --> 00:29:36.700 - the volume of disposable coffee cups that are being sent to the landfill. So I don't know if that's 00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:42.673 - something that, you know, data that could be gathered at some point, but that might help kind of get 00:29:42.673 --> 00:29:49.001 - a sense for what we actually could stand to gain if there was something like that here in Monterey County. 00:29:49.001 --> 00:29:55.034 - So yeah, mostly here to just kind of put it on folks' radar and hopefully keep the conversation going 00:29:55.034 --> 00:29:56.926 - in the coming months and years. 00:29:58.178 --> 00:30:04.706 - And I think you mentioned that there were some independent cafes that were interested or had been approached 00:30:04.706 --> 00:30:10.874 - already. Yeah, I'll probably send that one to Meredith because she did meet with some individual cafes 00:30:10.874 --> 00:30:16.983 - while she was here in Bloomington about a month or two ago. So yeah, Meredith. Yeah, I stopped around 00:30:16.983 --> 00:30:23.211 - and I don't have the list right in front of me. I said the Bloomington table and talked to the manager. 00:30:23.211 --> 00:30:25.726 - That was really cool. Showed her the cut. 00:30:25.954 --> 00:30:35.222 - that this is really interesting, let me know if this comes. There's a guy in front of me, but several 00:30:35.222 --> 00:30:44.399 - ones around Parkway as well. The one that is underground, I can't remember, sorry. So I think, well, 00:30:44.399 --> 00:30:46.398 - maybe not very happy. 00:30:47.074 --> 00:30:53.638 - Yes, thank you. And so there was definitely some early interest in just saying like, I like this cup. 00:30:53.638 --> 00:31:00.266 - This is cool. Let me know something comes of this. I can send you the names of those. I do have a list 00:31:00.266 --> 00:31:06.765 - of those. And so the ones that were most interested, but really just the meeting of just talking new 00:31:06.765 --> 00:31:13.264 - cafes. And also it takes if visits to get the decision maker as well. So there were only a few cafes 00:31:13.264 --> 00:31:15.774 - where I really got to land on like the 00:31:15.906 --> 00:31:27.976 - manager or the owner was in. I got lucky in Bloomington Bagel that day, where the owner was in. But 00:31:27.976 --> 00:31:40.771 - it's not to... It looks like you froze there for a second. And what has been the barrier or the challenge 00:31:40.771 --> 00:31:44.030 - for Caffe's adopting this? 00:31:44.322 --> 00:31:51.656 - One that I thought was if they were only a to-go option, they didn't already have a dishwasher, that 00:31:51.656 --> 00:31:58.991 - would be one issue. But I guess what would the barrier to entry be that you see? The biggest barrier 00:31:58.991 --> 00:32:06.325 - you don't have in-house, like if they don't do mugs in-house, if they're primarily to go with a hand 00:32:06.325 --> 00:32:13.950 - washing sink, that is a barrier. If they already had this cycle of washing in-house mugs, which mugs do, 00:32:14.146 --> 00:32:21.754 - That's a strength. I will say, I think education is really important. And so we also, when we do onboard, 00:32:21.754 --> 00:32:29.363 - we talk about what the local waste audit is showing and how they are part of the solution. I think that's 00:32:29.363 --> 00:32:36.827 - really important. And so even with the financial support that a lot of these municipalities are giving, 00:32:36.827 --> 00:32:43.646 - where they buy for several cases of cups for cafes, it's still with energy and it's the chain. 00:32:43.810 --> 00:32:51.427 - And that's always tough in the beginning. And so I'm interested to see maybe six months from now, like 00:32:51.427 --> 00:32:58.896 - how that evolves. And that's something we continue to work with our cafes on, of integrating it into 00:32:58.896 --> 00:33:06.809 - our day-to-day speech with customers. And so I would say it's, yes, if they don't do any in-house training 00:33:06.809 --> 00:33:11.838 - at all, that is a hand wash sink, but there are cafes that do that. 00:33:12.034 --> 00:33:18.963 - There are cafes though that we do that have that and they're, they're game for it. Um, especially when 00:33:18.963 --> 00:33:25.758 - the cups are free and they're making on pure profit on every reusable cup, it's kind of an E-brainer 00:33:25.758 --> 00:33:32.621 - for a small business. And that's why we went with this model called a flat barn. Um, because once the 00:33:32.621 --> 00:33:39.550 - subsidy is up, they'll start paying for those cups and they pay for the cup and lid, which is a higher 00:33:41.890 --> 00:33:51.096 - cup, but they get 50 back up. And so I would say really pushing the economics. Okay, thank you. Any 00:33:51.096 --> 00:34:00.486 - other questions? Comments? Yeah, I've got quite a few. Okay. Okay. Um, so, um, just, you know, I work 00:34:00.486 --> 00:34:06.654 - for the city of Wilmington utilities department. Um, I think that, 00:34:06.786 --> 00:34:12.986 - partnering with them on something cup-based might be very wise. We have water carts that we take around 00:34:12.986 --> 00:34:19.127 - to community events, having a cup, like either taking in cups there or giving them out might be really 00:34:19.127 --> 00:34:25.208 - smart. Typically right now we give people a little paper cone, like you get a snow cone in. So if you 00:34:25.208 --> 00:34:31.170 - don't have a water bottle, that's what you got. So that would be, I think, a potential partnership. 00:34:31.170 --> 00:34:35.582 - I'm also curious, so what did you say that the acronym for this group is? 00:34:36.194 --> 00:34:42.862 - So that's the Bloomington Commission on Sustainability and Resilience. Okay. So this is the commission 00:34:42.862 --> 00:34:49.531 - staffed by the Economic and Sustainable Development Department, right? Okay. So I would think that ESD 00:34:49.531 --> 00:34:56.393 - would have the ability to start bringing forth legislation to start working on the single use item issue. 00:34:56.393 --> 00:35:03.774 - I think they would have a respective city council if they brought forth such an ordinance. So personally, I would 00:35:03.874 --> 00:35:11.656 - be kind of pushing them a little bit. I think adopting something like that countywide might be kind 00:35:11.656 --> 00:35:19.593 - of difficult. I think at least in the city, you would find some reception. Aside from that, so is the 00:35:19.593 --> 00:35:27.530 - struggle with the grant funding that like ESD can't be the department that gets such a grant or? It's 00:35:27.530 --> 00:35:28.542 - their money. 00:35:28.642 --> 00:35:34.438 - Okay. So they give it to us to decide kind of where it goes. And if you don't spend it, what happens 00:35:34.438 --> 00:35:40.292 - to it? Does it go back to the general fund? Yeah. So that's why we were, this was going to kind of be 00:35:40.292 --> 00:35:46.030 - a Hail Mary, you know, we were just trying to get, get the money obligated and it wouldn't be until 00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:51.769 - later in 2027 that things actually start moving. But sorry, you passed the ability to encumber that 00:35:51.769 --> 00:35:53.950 - money for next year or for next year. 00:35:54.242 --> 00:36:00.570 - Well, technically no, but we're pretty much right there that it needs to start going through the approval 00:36:00.570 --> 00:36:06.779 - process now. And it really comes down to the size of the pilot. There's certain minimum orders for the, 00:36:06.779 --> 00:36:12.868 - you know, the cups and things in order to make it the deposits sort of economically viable. And yeah, 00:36:12.868 --> 00:36:19.077 - just not enough lead time, unfortunately. Gotcha. I hope it would all work out. Yeah, that makes sense. 00:36:19.077 --> 00:36:20.510 - I would also caution IU 00:36:20.738 --> 00:36:27.574 - is probably, I think you sometimes need to lead and show IU that something is possible, and then they 00:36:27.574 --> 00:36:34.411 - tend to adopt it. I think they can be kind of cautious of new things. Just say that. That has been my 00:36:34.411 --> 00:36:41.783 - experience as well. Yeah. Yeah. But I think you'd have a very receptive partner, at least in city government. 00:36:41.783 --> 00:36:49.022 - And I think, I don't know how this group feels specifically, but it sounds like a really interesting pilot. 00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:55.508 - Is it possible to still use the grant money to start the study of like what people in Bloomington? Cause 00:36:55.508 --> 00:37:01.706 - like we talked earlier about looking at what folks are throwing away in Breckenridge and you know, like 00:37:01.706 --> 00:37:07.844 - how many people actually bring it to go cup to a coffee shop, at least sitting at Inkwell. I feel like 00:37:07.844 --> 00:37:13.804 - quite a few people bring, but maybe it is only 2%. Yeah. You know, so is it possible to use that to 00:37:13.804 --> 00:37:18.750 - start the study? It's kind of like, is the study to justify or does it have to be. 00:37:18.850 --> 00:37:23.941 - sort of waste on it. Yeah, well, I hate it because I know how city government works, so I mean that 00:37:23.941 --> 00:37:29.134 - 6000 is going to go to reversion lines in the general ledger and then some department. Any department 00:37:29.134 --> 00:37:33.817 - can make a claim on it for anything that they think they want, so it is too bad to see that 00:37:33.817 --> 00:37:38.959 - money appropriated enough spent and it makes it harder for them to ask for that money in the future. 00:37:38.959 --> 00:37:44.050 - Yeah, it may be a possibility, so that's definitely something that they happy to work with folks on 00:37:44.050 --> 00:37:48.734 - to see if that's something that we can use those funds for and I can chat with ESD as well. 00:37:49.410 --> 00:37:55.901 - see what's possible on that front. Okay. Yeah, I just would hate to see you lose it. And then that may 00:37:55.901 --> 00:38:02.329 - use this justification not to give up similar funding next budget cycle. Right. Exactly. Awesome. Any 00:38:02.329 --> 00:38:09.135 - other comments, questions? Thank you, Liz. Yeah, thank you. Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Meredith, 00:38:09.135 --> 00:38:15.437 - for your time. We would love to see you. I personally would love to see a pilot here in 2020 around 00:38:15.437 --> 00:38:18.462 - that, because once again, I hate same business. 00:38:18.754 --> 00:38:30.900 - All right. Anything else, Justin? That's it for me. Thanks so much for your time. All right. Thank you 00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:37.150 - guys. All right. And last on the agenda. Transition. 00:38:37.378 --> 00:38:44.135 - Oh, can I give you my card so you can shoot me an email? Yes. I'm already in touch with Jolie and Sean 00:38:44.135 --> 00:38:51.023 - all the time. Perfect. I actually just gave them grant money to give out because I didn't want to manage 00:38:51.023 --> 00:38:57.911 - a grant anymore. Nice. All right. Yeah. Shoot me an email. OK, Chuck. OK. Great. Thanks so much. Thanks, 00:38:57.911 --> 00:39:04.668 - everybody. Oh, do you have one, too? Yes. Yours isn't an accused little piece. That's too many things. 00:39:04.668 --> 00:39:06.046 - Thank you. Good job. 00:39:07.810 --> 00:39:16.330 - All right, last on the agenda is a review of the Association of Neosolvus Manor District's conference 00:39:16.330 --> 00:39:24.850 - that we were just at. I'll start out. I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed Grumke's demonstration about the 00:39:24.850 --> 00:39:33.287 - current state of recycling. I always appreciate that. And then I know that the batteries was always, 00:39:33.287 --> 00:39:34.206 - excuse me, 00:39:34.498 --> 00:39:43.931 - We're at the top of mind right now with battery fires and whatnot, and especially all the vapes. And 00:39:43.931 --> 00:39:53.644 - there's just, what do people do with it? Do they get recycled? Not really. You don't want to throw them 00:39:53.644 --> 00:40:02.890 - in the trash. And then with some EPRs, the responsibility of the manufacturer all the way through. 00:40:02.890 --> 00:40:04.478 - It is EPR? Okay. 00:40:04.706 --> 00:40:11.211 - Yeah. Tom, Liz? Oh my goodness. Yeah, it's fine. So the field trip the day before, I think Tom and I 00:40:11.211 --> 00:40:17.651 - were the only, a bunch of his staff came. But is it high left work? High left work. Yeah, high left 00:40:17.651 --> 00:40:24.092 - work material, and that was really cool. They mostly just took us to the top of a very scary tower. 00:40:24.092 --> 00:40:30.661 - So, but it was interesting. I would have loved to hear more about their environmental compliance, but 00:40:30.661 --> 00:40:34.654 - I feel like I was the only person who was interested in that. 00:40:35.330 --> 00:40:42.015 - And then I was only able to attend the first day. The second day I was putting on an event for item. 00:40:42.015 --> 00:40:48.700 - But I found the education roundtable to be really good. I took some ideas that I'm probably going to 00:40:48.700 --> 00:40:55.451 - steal from my program. But that was cool. They were all really, really great. The snack was bad. What 00:40:55.451 --> 00:41:02.202 - was the snack? It was just chips and a giant bat of ranch. Like the bowl of chips wasn't the biggest. 00:41:02.202 --> 00:41:04.254 - I think it was homemade chips. 00:41:04.994 --> 00:41:14.862 - And I ate a lot. But then also the tour of the Lawrence County recycling, their recycling facility. 00:41:14.862 --> 00:41:25.421 - It was interesting. They have a lot of stormwater compliance problems. Oh, gotcha. That's Lawrence County. 00:41:25.421 --> 00:41:34.302 - I might have to tell Lawrence County, I'm so sorry. Don't tell items. I won't tell items. 00:41:35.810 --> 00:41:41.942 - So anyway, yeah, it was interesting to see the drive through recycling center that they have there, 00:41:41.942 --> 00:41:48.442 - but I was a little, it kind of bummed me out because it was so car centric. I realized that Lord's County 00:41:48.442 --> 00:41:54.328 - probably is very car centric, but, and made me miss when we had the recycling behind city hall. 00:41:54.328 --> 00:42:00.644 - That was, that's where the trades district garages now, where people that don't have a car could still 00:42:00.644 --> 00:42:04.446 - potentially recycle, but the locations are kind of far flung. 00:42:06.626 --> 00:42:15.691 - Thank you. Those are my takes. And I met some really cool people. Yeah, I thought it was a good conference. 00:42:15.691 --> 00:42:24.336 - So overall, I will say there will be matter recycling slash EBR legislation. A bill will be introduced 00:42:24.336 --> 00:42:32.729 - for the upcoming session beginning of the year. I'm involved in a group that's working on helping a 00:42:32.729 --> 00:42:36.254 - representative to draft that legislation. 00:42:37.154 --> 00:42:46.711 - It will not include base bands, but over embedded batteries. Those are a whole different animal. Will 00:42:46.711 --> 00:42:56.736 - it include scooters? It will include the bags. If you can remove the battery from the scooter, the e-bike, 00:42:56.736 --> 00:43:05.918 - it will be included. At this point, everybody's agreeing. What ultimately gets passed, who knows? 00:43:06.114 --> 00:43:12.754 - What the bill introduced last year didn't include that everybody's agreeable to be included this year's 00:43:12.754 --> 00:43:19.203 - damage to defective batteries, and that's a big one, particularly for solid waste this year, because 00:43:19.203 --> 00:43:25.907 - those are a huge cost. Those are expensive to deal with. It will not include recalled batteries, because 00:43:25.907 --> 00:43:32.547 - there's a whole different infrastructure already in place to deal with those. There's a big educational 00:43:32.547 --> 00:43:34.718 - component needed for that, making 00:43:34.818 --> 00:43:41.447 - people that have batteries aware of the recall process and how to contact the manufacturing at that 00:43:41.447 --> 00:43:48.209 - dealt with. One of the things that's come up is whether or not this ever happens, who knows, but this 00:43:48.209 --> 00:43:55.170 - would be a nationwide deal. But it'd be nice to have like a central clearinghouse for that where there's 00:43:55.170 --> 00:43:56.894 - just a general web border 00:43:57.122 --> 00:44:03.763 - what portal you can go to, and whether or not you have a generic battery, a Duracell battery, an energized 00:44:03.763 --> 00:44:10.156 - battery, if you recall on this battery, what do I do? Instead of trying to deal with the manufacturer, 00:44:10.156 --> 00:44:16.734 - whoever they've contracted to deal with, to type a central clearing out so that you can plug your battery 00:44:16.734 --> 00:44:23.189 - model into the oil pop-up, here's what to do, here's where you lose the contact to get your kit to send 00:44:23.189 --> 00:44:23.934 - it back in. 00:44:25.474 --> 00:44:32.644 - But that's beyond the scope of the legislation. But anyway, that's kind of beyond the cup. But yeah, 00:44:32.644 --> 00:44:39.956 - I thought it was a good conference this year. I thought we had a lot of good topics, at least from the 00:44:39.956 --> 00:44:47.623 - perspective of the solid waste district. Good for solid waste districts. The last session of the conference 00:44:47.623 --> 00:44:51.102 - on Wednesday afternoon was from the associations 00:44:52.482 --> 00:44:59.546 - primary legal lobbyist or lawyer who does the bulk of the lobbying for us. It was really good. He had 00:44:59.546 --> 00:45:06.541 - a lot of good information for solid waste districts about going and testifying at the state house of 00:45:06.541 --> 00:45:13.536 - staff. Figure out who your representatives are. Here are the ways to reach out to them. Here are the 00:45:13.536 --> 00:45:19.838 - key phrases and things to use to catch their attention when you want to talk to them about 00:45:19.970 --> 00:45:26.519 - in a bill or something that's going on. I thought that was really good information for the encryption 00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:33.132 - line districts out there. They don't necessarily have the relationships that they need or should have. 00:45:33.132 --> 00:45:39.617 - Their senators and representatives. Thank you, Tom. I just wanted something new. Embedded batteries. 00:45:39.617 --> 00:45:46.038 - So there would have to be a whole separate legislation just for embedded batteries to address that? 00:45:46.038 --> 00:45:48.478 - It wouldn't have to, but the way that 00:45:49.154 --> 00:45:56.475 - My understanding of the way the system is all set up that the people that are dealing with the recycling 00:45:56.475 --> 00:46:03.448 - now are prepared, their process doesn't deal with extracting the matter, they just want the matter. 00:46:03.448 --> 00:46:10.421 - And it's different to extract it, depending on what the thing is, I'm sure. We just really never... 00:46:10.421 --> 00:46:16.766 - I wonder if the nonprofit up in Indianapolis that does a lot of the electronics recycling, 00:46:16.930 --> 00:46:24.730 - Could take that off. Sounds like there's a mark for that. I keep wanting to say retro cycle. 00:46:24.730 --> 00:46:33.285 - That's not it. Okay. Well, thank you very much. Recycle Force. Recycle Force. Yeah. Recycle Force can 00:46:33.285 --> 00:46:41.757 - get into that. Yeah. Challenges with batteries as technology continues to increase. All right. Thank 00:46:41.757 --> 00:46:43.518 - you for that review. 00:46:43.682 --> 00:46:50.224 - So now to public comment, each member of the public will have four minutes to speak. Please indicate 00:46:50.224 --> 00:46:56.960 - your desire to comment by using the raise hand function in Teams or by typing into the chat, and you'll 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:03.437 - be called on in the order of your request received. I see no public. Well, we do have one member of 00:47:03.437 --> 00:47:10.302 - the public. We got a laugh, all right. I do not see anybody on, nobody's raising their hand. Teams, okay. 00:47:10.498 --> 00:47:16.808 - So moving on, our next regular meeting is Thursday, November 19th, 2026. Here, showers building room 00:47:16.808 --> 00:47:23.306 - 106D. And then please let me know if when I send the agenda out, if you will be able to make it or not. 00:47:23.306 --> 00:47:29.616 - And next we will adjourn. If there's no objection, this meeting. I have to object, sorry. I can have 00:47:29.616 --> 00:47:35.989 - one question after your next meeting. I mean, obviously the makeup of this group can always change at 00:47:35.989 --> 00:47:39.550 - any time, but we need to start thinking about scheduling 00:47:39.938 --> 00:47:48.036 - meetings for next year and getting rings reserved. So is the third Thursday at 530 what the group wants 00:47:48.036 --> 00:47:55.901 - to continue with? If I will access reading still adequate for your purposes and yes, I will send the 00:47:55.901 --> 00:48:03.765 - request and it's really sure that that's the case. Dude, are you asking for a vote on that right now 00:48:03.765 --> 00:48:08.126 - or just a net on it? Not in a consensus. You know, yes. 00:48:08.674 --> 00:48:15.561 - Definitely prefer this location. Yeah, or this location. That's why I'm asking you to set your schedule 00:48:15.561 --> 00:48:22.249 - or do an informal. I'm just I'm going to get the requested and to get the meeting to be sure. So I'm 00:48:22.249 --> 00:48:29.334 - following Thursday at 530. If it changes, it changes. OK. So no objections to that. Alright, so if there's 00:48:29.334 --> 00:48:36.221 - no objection, this meeting will adjourn no more. Alright, sitting down this meeting is adjourned. Thank 00:48:36.221 --> 00:48:37.214 - you everybody.