WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.480 - I'd like to call to order this meeting of the Executive Committee the Waste 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:10.480 - Reduction District of Monroe County and Mr. McGlasson can you please call the roll. 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:19.760 - Pete Monsmith? Here. Thomas? Here. Wilts? Here. 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:24.960 - Note that Ms. Wilts is here virtually. 00:00:29.200 --> 00:00:35.760 - Dr. Wilts can you start your video or is it not feasible? 00:00:35.760 --> 00:00:39.040 - It is started. 00:00:39.040 --> 00:00:48.560 - Just a minute. We have to. We can do that at the next 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.240 - district meeting. Certainly. Can you not hear me? 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:57.200 - We can hear you but we can't see you. You have to be visible to vote. 00:00:57.760 --> 00:01:00.240 - Right. My video is turned on. 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:06.400 - First case scenario. Is there a sticker over it? 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:11.120 - First case scenario we can do it at the next board meeting. 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.840 - Yeah. The three of us can vote at the next board meeting on the minutes. 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:20.080 - That's the only thing we have to vote on. There is. There are two of us here. 00:01:20.080 --> 00:01:21.600 - We could vote on the minutes. Yeah. 00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:30.160 - As Councilor Wills. And Councilor Wills was not in attendance for the RMI meeting. 00:01:30.160 --> 00:01:34.000 - No. This is your second set of minutes. 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.440 - Okay. All right. Let's just keep moving. 00:01:37.440 --> 00:01:45.200 - Okay. So we will look at the executive committee meeting minutes for our meeting with Rocky 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:52.400 - Mountain Institute about the landfill solar on April 29th. Their motion to approve. 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.200 - And move to approve. 00:01:55.200 --> 00:02:09.360 - Okay. So let's vote on those minutes. Councilor Wills. 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:13.360 - Oh, Councilor Wills can't vote because can't see her. 00:02:14.720 --> 00:02:16.480 - Oh, we can't second that. 00:02:16.480 --> 00:02:18.320 - Oh, okay. Well, I'll second it. 00:02:18.320 --> 00:02:18.820 - Okay. 00:02:18.820 --> 00:02:20.480 - Commissioner Thomas. 00:02:20.480 --> 00:02:20.980 - Yes. 00:02:20.980 --> 00:02:29.040 - I'll vote yes. And then we have the executive committee meeting of April 29th. 00:02:29.040 --> 00:02:32.240 - Motion to approve that one. 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:34.480 - Motion to approve. 00:02:34.480 --> 00:02:34.980 - Second. 00:02:34.980 --> 00:02:37.520 - Commissioner Thomas. 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:39.060 - Yes. 00:02:40.640 --> 00:02:45.120 - I will also vote. Let me just forward. Sorry. 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.480 - There were a couple of minor corrections. 00:02:48.480 --> 00:02:54.000 - Yes, I received those and those are incorporated in the version here for signature if they're 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:54.400 - approved. 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:57.280 - Okay. The only substantive ones was that. 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.880 - Commissioner Thomas, you were not there as far as I recall. 00:03:00.880 --> 00:03:05.600 - Yeah, I was not there and I am listed as virtual. 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:06.100 - Yeah. 00:03:06.100 --> 00:03:06.600 - Right. 00:03:06.600 --> 00:03:10.920 - But I can still vote on that because I watched the meeting after. 00:03:10.920 --> 00:03:16.920 - And then the only other substantive correction is that Mr. Whitty is the chairperson and not the 00:03:16.920 --> 00:03:18.520 - vice chairperson of the CAC. 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:20.200 - Correct. I did try to demote him. 00:03:20.200 --> 00:03:22.680 - You're not getting away with that. 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:26.840 - Okay, sorry. So now let's vote. Commissioner Thomas. 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:27.340 - Yes. 00:03:27.340 --> 00:03:28.520 - And I'll vote yes. 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:34.440 - Got the executive committee meeting minutes done. 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.560 - Any comments on the board of director meeting minutes? 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:43.640 - I had a few small corrections that I put in the drop box. 00:03:43.640 --> 00:03:47.800 - Yes, I've seen those and have made those for back. 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:55.000 - Any other questions, comments on those minutes? 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:55.500 - No. 00:03:59.480 --> 00:04:06.120 - Councilor Wilks. 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:15.960 - Okay, well then we can just move those to the floor for approval. 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:25.640 - Mr. McGlass, would you like to tell us about resolution 2025-09? 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:33.960 - Sure, as mentioned in the memo on page 11 due to a recent resignation and 00:04:33.960 --> 00:04:43.400 - one of the site operators and moving staff around to fill that regular scheduled position 00:04:43.400 --> 00:04:51.400 - and looking at our scheduling and scheduling patterns with time off and time off available 00:04:51.400 --> 00:04:58.320 - to our regular site operators, Mr. Long and Joey Long and I thought it would be in the best 00:04:58.320 --> 00:04:58.680 - interest 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:06.280 - of the district to actually hire two replacement site operators at this time just to help alleviate 00:05:06.280 --> 00:05:13.160 - some potential scheduling issues that we saw for people taking the time off that they want or need. 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:19.240 - As indicated in the memo, the replacement operators don't have any impact on the budget. 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:25.320 - It's just an extra body to fill in when somebody's off which is going to happen whether we have 00:05:25.320 --> 00:05:32.350 - three replacement operators, four, five, or six of them. So what this resolution, all this 00:05:32.350 --> 00:05:32.920 - resolution 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:42.200 - does is increase the pool of replacement operators from five to six and I would note for the record 00:05:42.200 --> 00:05:47.880 - in interviewing replacement reviewing interviewing candidates for the replacement operator position, 00:05:48.840 --> 00:05:55.640 - we actually did have two that that we were interested in hiring and it was a difficult 00:05:55.640 --> 00:06:02.040 - decision. We had to hire somebody at that time so we do actually already have a person in mind 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:08.760 - for the position that the board approves this change. Great, sounds good to me. 00:06:08.760 --> 00:06:15.400 - Councilor Wilks, do you have any questions or comments on that one? I do not. 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:22.840 - Mr. Thomas? No? Okay so we can move that to the whole board. 00:06:22.840 --> 00:06:27.800 - Next we have a declaration of surplus property. 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:37.880 - Yeah if you recall we did the last board meeting. I'm going to check the courier auto group for the 00:06:37.880 --> 00:06:44.840 - two new green business trucks. Those are both in our possession and up and running for us now so 00:06:44.840 --> 00:06:49.800 - we have two extra trucks that are taking up space on our lot that we'd like to get rid of. 00:06:49.800 --> 00:07:02.840 - One of them still has some value to it the other one is ancient. Well yeah on the on our asset 00:07:02.840 --> 00:07:13.560 - inventory you know one does still have some value and I mean that's just a function of you know the 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:21.880 - we generally apply a 10-year expected lifespan to those vehicles and so we purchased it five years 00:07:21.880 --> 00:07:28.600 - ago and that's just a function of the depreciation given the expected life of the vehicle. 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:38.440 - It's declared surplus. We use the GovDeals auction website and you know we have the ability to set 00:07:38.440 --> 00:07:46.760 - minimums and we'll endeavor to get as much out of it as we can. Will that money 00:07:46.760 --> 00:07:57.080 - oh yeah so that'll be money that we'll just go to our reserves. It'll just be a miscellaneous 00:07:57.080 --> 00:07:57.480 - income 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:03.000 - it was not budgeted revenue for the year and there is no bearing on our appropriations. 00:08:08.200 --> 00:08:14.440 - Two just language things in the actual resolution. 00:08:14.440 --> 00:08:21.720 - So at the end of the first paragraph it says it's intended and be considered surplus property for 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:29.480 - the purpose of resale reuse or recycle. I would change that to recycling. Recycle is not down. 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:35.800 - And then the same thing under number one. 00:08:35.800 --> 00:08:51.800 - The thing I would like to see is specificity about trying to sell at an auction. What if it 00:08:51.800 --> 00:08:59.400 - doesn't sell at auction then what happens? So you know because it could be donated there might be 00:08:59.400 --> 00:09:10.680 - somebody they're good right. So I think it's important to know what's going to happen. 00:09:10.680 --> 00:09:16.600 - If it doesn't sell at that it's going to auction if it doesn't sell at auction 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:22.360 - we're going to do whatever. I just think that kind of specificity is really good to have for 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:29.240 - transparency sake. And would that be something that we put into the now there for the resolution or 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:36.200 - that be something in the memo regarding the agenda item? I think memo's fine. I think it's fine. I 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:43.000 - just think it's helpful about that. Yeah what are your plans? Yep yep you're going to try to sell 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:52.680 - out to sell at auction we're going to do this. The money's going to go when it gets sold at auction. 00:09:52.680 --> 00:09:56.200 - I can see you now. 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:04.120 - Yeah that's a good idea. 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:10.840 - Thank you Julie. Any other comments on this item? 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:17.720 - No. Now we can't hear you Kate. 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:29.640 - I don't have any comments. I logged off and logged back in to get my camera to work. So 00:10:29.640 --> 00:10:33.640 - okay let's proceed. All right. 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:44.760 - Okay well then we can move on to the next item on the agenda which is the Back to Earth Collected 00:10:44.760 --> 00:10:53.560 - Composting Programs Report. This is a kind of a follow-up to the discussion at the last month's 00:10:53.560 --> 00:11:01.800 - board meeting with the proposed service agreement for the next phase of this but it became apparent 00:11:01.800 --> 00:11:08.680 - in that discussion that not all board members had seen the interim report that was provided 00:11:08.680 --> 00:11:14.360 - last November by one sustainable joe and I mentioned at that time that he was also working 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:20.630 - on a final report given that the initial agreement term had just ended. So both of those reports 00:11:20.630 --> 00:11:20.760 - are 00:11:20.760 --> 00:11:26.200 - included in here for informational purposes and discussion of their desire to do so. 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:35.000 - Sister Wenny wants to stay with us here if there's any questions and I would note that I 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:41.480 - I do have a follow-up to this if after there's any questions or discussions regarding the 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:52.440 - um Mr. Wenny do you want to add anything or I don't have anything particular to point out 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:57.000 - just happy to answer any questions that you have about the reports that are included in the packet. 00:11:57.160 --> 00:12:04.040 - Thank you. Are there any questions for Mr. Wenny or comments? 00:12:04.040 --> 00:12:15.320 - Um it was curious that the I think it was site number two 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:23.000 - the the amount of materials just kept going up and down up and down. 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:31.240 - Yes yeah any idea what's happening there? Yes I mentioned briefly in the report that 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:37.240 - it's just basically the inconsistency of users entering the weight of the material weighing it 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:44.020 - and submitting it before they add it to the bio. So I noticed that trend the very the very first 00:12:44.020 --> 00:12:44.200 - dip 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:51.000 - in April of their first um I guess would be their their fourth month participating and so I spoke 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:56.520 - with the turners there who were adding the material and they mentioned that there were 00:12:56.520 --> 00:13:03.960 - no significant fluctuations in their generation and just that they weren't consistent in weighing 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:12.040 - and submitting the weight which is why I also noted that of the totals provided for the program 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:18.040 - about 10 to 20 percent I would estimate that about 10 to 20 percent more material was diverted than 00:13:18.040 --> 00:13:24.680 - what was recorded. So you can you can see particularly with site number two because 00:13:24.680 --> 00:13:30.840 - they contributed about half of the overall program totals but the the overall program totals vary 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:36.520 - with or fluctuate with the same variations that that particular site does and I did what I could 00:13:36.520 --> 00:13:44.460 - to reinforce the value of weighing the material I showed them their weight trends so they were 00:13:44.460 --> 00:13:44.840 - aware 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:51.880 - of the impact it was having and it was I guess the matter of an item that's beyond my control. 00:13:51.880 --> 00:13:59.320 - Yeah how does the so does the the family the household that brings the material 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:04.680 - are they the ones who are supposed to weigh it? Yes. And is there scale there or how does that work? 00:14:04.680 --> 00:14:10.200 - Correct there is a scale stationed at all of the compost bins and the reason that site number two 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:18.360 - is an exception is they are a co-op house so they aren't the same apartment style individual 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:24.920 - households all bringing out their same waste they as a house accumulate all of their waste together 00:14:24.920 --> 00:14:32.920 - and they only had a specific number of residents bringing the waste out so that's why they're 00:14:32.920 --> 00:14:38.920 - in I guess I'm making a comparison that in an apartment setting if one person wasn't weighing 00:14:38.920 --> 00:14:45.240 - the material they would only represent a small fraction of those at the site all together so 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:50.760 - there everyone is each household bringing out weighing the material whereas at the co-op 00:14:50.760 --> 00:14:54.440 - there was only a certain a small number of people sub to the residents who were bringing out the 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:59.960 - material for the whole household so that's why they forget exactly it has a bigger impact 00:14:59.960 --> 00:15:06.680 - exactly so their weigh-in process was a little bit different in that respect okay but otherwise 00:15:06.680 --> 00:15:12.440 - and then except the city's finished the amount so that was my follow-up okay 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:24.600 - so I think it's important to look at kind of the conclusions that Joe reached that are 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:29.960 - outlined at the end of the November report feasibility of broad spectrum implementation 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:39.400 - I mean the upshot really is that it's working it's a good program but it's not financially 00:15:39.400 --> 00:15:47.960 - yeah needs a subsidy because you're never going to make that self-supporting it's not 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:49.720 - that was never the plan nice 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:59.000 - well but then it begs the question of who's gonna keep paying for this you know and 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:05.800 - well I think the I mean when we were discussing you know the pilot and getting that started you 00:16:05.800 --> 00:16:16.120 - know the idea was that the district through its contractor once named Joe would help get this 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:23.800 - started and then the idea being that the apartment complex and its and its management maintenance 00:16:23.800 --> 00:16:29.080 - route would eventually take over the management and there doesn't seem to be 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:38.040 - I guess that the the participants at this point they don't seem to be 00:16:38.040 --> 00:16:45.080 - jumping in jumping in to take that over I guess what I would say is the the bulk of the cost is 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:52.520 - creating the site assembling I guess the cost of materials and assembling materials 00:16:52.520 --> 00:16:59.560 - the maintenance cost is lower and I think something that properties would be able to assume 00:16:59.560 --> 00:17:05.240 - over like the post-partner period I think that the from discussions I've had with the existing 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:11.160 - participants the property managers are willing to pay the estimated amount for operation going 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:18.040 - forward for their particular site because they are spending less on waste hauling out of the 00:17:18.040 --> 00:17:24.920 - facility is that right so far it's been out of an interest in providing or providing the service 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:30.760 - to the residents that's good yeah but what I guess my conclusion is that I don't expect that any 00:17:30.760 --> 00:17:31.080 - site 00:17:31.080 --> 00:17:36.840 - would be willing to pay for the entire cost including the whole upfront for giving it this 00:17:36.840 --> 00:17:44.360 - and I guess that's what I meant when I said that you know a district to its contractor would get 00:17:44.360 --> 00:17:50.520 - this started we're going to bear the brunt of the upfront cost to construct bins and educate 00:17:50.520 --> 00:17:58.120 - residents and stuff but yeah then whether it be through you know interest you know a good pr to 00:17:58.120 --> 00:18:02.600 - attract tenants that hey we have this program if this is something you're interested in you know 00:18:02.600 --> 00:18:09.640 - that yes and ultimately the the complex would take it over and manage and run the operation moving 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:22.280 - forward I'm just wondering what so we've we're planning to renew the pilot but at what point 00:18:22.280 --> 00:18:29.480 - is it no longer a pilot and it's just a program that well I mean do we then do we then offer 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:35.160 - grants to apartment complexes or somebody like once that's something that you know that we can 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:41.320 - consider we have already discussed you know in the next year's budget possibly establishing 00:18:41.320 --> 00:18:46.680 - some sort of a community grant program that could go towards something like this 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:55.240 - I think and you correct me but and the next service agreement that the board had already 00:18:55.240 --> 00:19:03.160 - looked at last month you know what's in there is some is some continued support for the existing 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:10.200 - complexes but the bulk of the focus and both the funds are to get this established an additional 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:15.160 - complex but what we weren't turning we weren't turning our backs at this point on the existing 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:24.120 - participants but we want to start steer them toward making the commitment to it and either 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:28.280 - take it over and have this as a part of your community at your complex 00:19:30.760 --> 00:19:36.120 - you know and I hope that that's what happens well I don't want to see it 00:19:36.120 --> 00:19:45.080 - just go by the wayside and get left and you know and abandoned but at what point do we say 00:19:45.080 --> 00:19:53.000 - we've done our part and it's it's up to you to make this continue that's exactly my question 00:19:54.520 --> 00:20:00.760 - so the line I've taken so far by May is I've informed the participating site managers that 00:20:00.760 --> 00:20:05.320 - the intent is for after the partner period that they will assume the cost of the program going 00:20:05.320 --> 00:20:15.080 - forward and that as Dominic mentioned the proposed contract for phase two is almost is designed 00:20:15.080 --> 00:20:22.680 - entirely for new sites with a possibility to provide funding to existing sites on an as needed 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:29.160 - basis where both the district and one sustainable joe agree that it's rented so it's much less 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:35.000 - continued support for existing sites than it is establishment of new sites with the possibility 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:41.000 - to retroactively support existing sites if deemed necessary and I guess they requested and 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:49.800 - exactly and I guess in my mind what was for the existing sites was more of a time commitment to 00:20:50.840 --> 00:20:54.600 - resident turnover hey we have a new group of people that are interested but they have no 00:20:54.600 --> 00:20:58.680 - idea what they're doing so okay we're going to devote some time to you to educate your 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:04.360 - new residents that want to do this. It seems like a weekly video could be made. It could. 00:21:04.360 --> 00:21:13.800 - Distributor has been trying to use that. It seems you know that the cost should be zero. 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:26.600 - I don't know. Are any of these four sites heavy on student population? Are they mostly 00:21:26.600 --> 00:21:34.040 - not students? I would say they are mostly really ballpark around students. 00:21:34.040 --> 00:21:42.120 - Half the sites are half within. Sorry each of the sites have a roughly half student population 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:49.480 - so the turnover is an issue. Yes yeah. Do any of the current participants 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:57.720 - I mean I guess looking specifically at the non-student residents within those complexes or 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:05.240 - you know is there something that we can do or any of them seem like they would have an interest in 00:22:06.040 --> 00:22:12.840 - learning enough to spearhead it going forward and so that you we can take a step back. I see. 00:22:12.840 --> 00:22:20.200 - And they can educate the new residents when they come in and like you produce some YouTube videos 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:26.200 - and that should be all you need. I would say for about half of the sites so two of the sites 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:34.680 - there's one one site that has very few residents and is the co-housing and I think that they are 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:39.400 - capable of doing that training going forward. I don't think they will rely very heavily on 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:45.960 - continued intervention and I think the same is also true or I hope to be true of co-op for a 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:50.280 - similar reason because it's a single household altogether. They have people generally assigned 00:22:50.280 --> 00:22:54.600 - to certain responsibilities in the house and it seems that they have the intent to be able to 00:22:54.600 --> 00:22:59.080 - transfer that knowledge going forward. Whereas with the two more conventional apartment style 00:22:59.080 --> 00:23:04.440 - properties I don't think that any of the residents are interested in taking it up on behalf of the 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:08.920 - apartment and I don't think the property managers are necessarily interested in their staff and 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:17.240 - maintenance or I guess staff managers filling that role. So well I don't think that it would 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:23.640 - be a zero cost for them to have like continued training or support. I don't think it will be 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:28.280 - substantial and that's what I am expecting to be close to a realm that they would be willing to 00:23:28.280 --> 00:23:32.200 - continue to fund going forward and so far from the discussions we've had and the estimates I've 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:41.560 - provided it looks like it will. Oh okay well hopefully now that would be the model as long 00:23:41.560 --> 00:23:47.560 - as you're available to do that kind of follow-up right and they're willing to pay what it costs. 00:23:47.560 --> 00:23:52.040 - Exactly and and so far that's the I guess arrangement and expectation but again like 00:23:52.040 --> 00:23:56.840 - I mentioned in the initial report in November one big question is how long the equipment will last 00:23:57.560 --> 00:24:03.560 - because that that will be a substantial cost to replace that would definitely be a barrier if it 00:24:03.560 --> 00:24:09.320 - were you know needed to be replaced on a two-year basis versus a five or six-year basis. Well and 00:24:09.320 --> 00:24:09.480 - in 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:16.630 - your updated report you already say there are some hinges and stuff that need to be built. Yeah 00:24:16.630 --> 00:24:16.680 - there 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:22.920 - are small modifications that I'm already making with the intention of this phase creating greater 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:30.920 - florescence and longevity for the equipment. I think my concern is this should be getting 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:40.780 - us closer to having a program for the whole county community at rural sites etc and I feel like 00:24:40.780 --> 00:24:41.000 - that 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:47.880 - should be the next the thing that we do next and it's not you know we're still talking about 00:24:48.760 --> 00:24:52.680 - apartment complexes in the city I just feel like 00:24:52.680 --> 00:25:01.560 - we need to we need a big program like this demonstrates that it works on a small scale 00:25:01.560 --> 00:25:08.760 - and that there's a lot of counts of waste diverted which is great right but I think it would be 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:19.480 - really good to have some planning focus maybe starting with staff coming back to board but 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:30.840 - you know what can we do to develop a significant program that would be something that would either 00:25:30.840 --> 00:25:36.360 - be a subscription base or something else for county residents across the whole county 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:45.800 - because we had something and they stopped us they ceased operations so you know what would it take 00:25:45.800 --> 00:25:55.320 - to find do can we do an RFQ and see if there's anyone you know in the vicinity who can do this 00:25:55.320 --> 00:26:03.640 - should we I don't know I just I just feel like this is like it's good to have statistical 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:10.440 - information about the value of the program you know number of residents how many pounds are diverted 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:17.320 - that's huge but I feel like grants to apartment complexes is not 00:26:17.320 --> 00:26:26.920 - the best use of our time in the future I think getting a good program going would be 00:26:28.520 --> 00:26:34.360 - a better use of our time I suppose and because we have so many people living in apartments that 00:26:34.360 --> 00:26:40.360 - inside and outside the city limits and so that is a population that you're probably not going 00:26:40.360 --> 00:26:46.030 - to get them to go to a you know a site to get rid of unless they're already bringing their 00:26:46.030 --> 00:26:46.840 - recycling 00:26:46.840 --> 00:26:51.320 - to one of our offices unless they're all right and very conscious and doing I mean you would 00:26:51.320 --> 00:26:58.600 - have to do this as part of a recycling program for residents I mean I think recycling not posting 00:26:58.600 --> 00:27:04.200 - those together for me but but for a big program we need a place that's going to take well 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:12.760 - we've had organic waste task force we've had some of these discussions if there is 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:22.360 - hobo incorporated I think we've referenced it about their board meetings they have a facility 00:27:22.360 --> 00:27:27.320 - outside of Sheffield you know the mature we've looked at we've talked with them about 00:27:27.320 --> 00:27:34.600 - what would it take to have collection in Monroe County to get into your facility 00:27:36.520 --> 00:27:46.920 - and you know we're looking at eleven twelve hundred dollars a pool 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:51.960 - probably closer to seven or eight seven or eight well then you had the disposal on top 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:57.400 - so we're up roughly a thousand maybe a little bit more 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:05.480 - to get a box set and swabbed out but it gets full from Monroe County to Shelby 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:17.570 - and learned from their facility so and so we talked with MCCSC schools participating in such a 00:28:17.570 --> 00:28:17.720 - thing 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:27.000 - is there another entity that we had identified reached out to? We talked to ANISA and IU 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:33.160 - which says you guys need to follow up on. Yeah and then the sustainability office of IU Bloomington. 00:28:33.320 --> 00:28:40.680 - So they're probably on the less likely camp that are trying to do something on their own 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:47.320 - because it wouldn't pull it out completely. So we are we are looking at an option that is 00:28:47.320 --> 00:28:52.920 - not most cost effective necessarily and that's part of the problem with doing it is 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:59.080 - there is there's nothing there's there's not a facility nearby to take that from place to 00:29:02.520 --> 00:29:07.240 - and that's ultimately whether it's private facility a public partnership 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:16.040 - but the long-term solution is to have a facility in the area that will take that material. 00:29:16.040 --> 00:29:26.200 - Yeah I'll just note that the target audience for this particular program is high density housing 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:32.680 - which happens to be in higher concentration in city limits that's yeah the difference is they're 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:38.360 - able to do it on their property whereas to get a very large inclusive program requires a processor 00:29:38.360 --> 00:29:43.560 - in a whole different structure right right I understand that yeah I definitely agree though 00:29:43.560 --> 00:29:48.280 - that I mean I just the last thing I heard at the last meeting was oh it's a high price pay okay 00:29:48.280 --> 00:29:53.960 - well what else are we going to do like we can't just I don't know we just we used to go out and 00:29:53.960 --> 00:30:00.280 - find one place that's expensive and then go well that's it it's expensive to move on I mean I just 00:30:00.280 --> 00:30:06.360 - feel like we I just ask staff to think about other ways to accomplish something like this because 00:30:06.360 --> 00:30:06.520 - it 00:30:06.520 --> 00:30:18.120 - is a huge huge impact on our place I mean it's it's huge. Well I mean we have the task force so 00:30:18.760 --> 00:30:25.960 - um I guess this is a request to ask the task force to comb through and see if there's any any other 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:38.450 - options. There might be an answer out there that's not a processor of the scale but what is it 00:30:38.450 --> 00:30:38.680 - called 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:45.320 - well is it you know that yeah that's the one outside of Shelby yeah and there's also another 00:30:45.320 --> 00:30:51.000 - business I don't think we've identified it's about the same distance that's south toward the river. 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:58.360 - Oh okay but same issue same yeah because it's a transportation issue yeah 00:30:58.360 --> 00:31:03.560 - you know which which is you know cost and urban footprint yep yep 00:31:03.560 --> 00:31:12.920 - there are options and if I think this is to me it's a it's a stomachable option 00:31:13.560 --> 00:31:19.480 - if we go into it short term with a plan to do something local in the near future. 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:26.840 - Yeah but you got to have that local plan yeah I agree do that forever yeah. I mean 00:31:26.840 --> 00:31:33.880 - Volkashi opens up some other possibilities right like you don't have to have a farm to do Volkashi. 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:41.720 - But you still have but you still have the solid product that needs to finish as has been described 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.640 - it's a it's a much shorter term but it still has to go and sit somewhere and finish composting yep 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:54.920 - and you know and again and again you get into the you know I get part of the the purpose of 00:31:54.920 --> 00:32:01.720 - looking at the multi-dwelling and we referred to update at the board meeting you know a 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:02.280 - neighborhood 00:32:02.280 --> 00:32:09.880 - centric model is is is to avoid standard the threshold that gets you on item trade-off 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:16.840 - you gotta look at registering or permitting a facility and that's 300 square feet is that 00:32:16.840 --> 00:32:23.560 - threshold okay okay did you have some feedback 00:32:23.560 --> 00:32:34.280 - um I mean I'm interested in the conversation I do think that Julie has a point about thinking about 00:32:35.560 --> 00:32:44.120 - longer term solutions and it just makes me wonder if 300 you said 300 square 00:32:44.120 --> 00:32:55.080 - 300 square feet is the compost pile by dimensions that is the items threshold that puts you under 00:32:55.080 --> 00:33:08.440 - their purview to be permitted to register it's at the county parks you were cutting out I'm sorry 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:13.560 - sorry what if we had setups at the county parks 00:33:13.560 --> 00:33:19.080 - I mean I'm just envisioning kind of a way to have 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:29.560 - places well that's that's just one of the things that was discussed at last month's meeting with 00:33:29.560 --> 00:33:35.400 - the request the garden quest has and they have partnered with will debt park to do the finish 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:40.440 - to do the finished composting of the solid byproduct from the bokashi fermentation 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:46.600 - um you know but but again they're they're still limited to that 300 square foot threshold 00:33:49.320 --> 00:33:55.160 - if I may add one of the I guess thinks apart or not right thinking about it in terms of distributed 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.400 - or centralized is how we've been doing it in the task force and then distributed model no matter 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:05.400 - what someone has to be able to maintain right right so there has to be I love it but yeah there 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:09.880 - still has to be somebody to be able to maintain it even if that's small volume so obviously a high 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:15.480 - amount of distribution makes it manageable for a small number of people but it also significantly 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.520 - limits the amount of waste we're able to take overall so centralized could collect from 00:34:20.520 --> 00:34:27.800 - institutions in a way that decentralized can't yeah what I'm understanding about the Bokashi method 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:34.920 - is there's certainly it's a less labor intensive you know once you take that the solid product 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:39.560 - fermentation and do the finished composting because it doesn't sound like it's something 00:34:39.560 --> 00:34:45.960 - that you don't have to churn consistently yeah so it's but it has to sit for a long time I think 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.760 - it was three to four months that's not for the fermentation process I thought it was like closer 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:57.080 - to two or three weeks yeah but then you have to bring you make juice off that and he's talking 00:34:57.080 --> 00:35:01.000 - about burying the solids for I think but I thought he said it was like three months and then you 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:06.760 - should be able to yeah I thought it was I thought it was even longer than that between county parks 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:11.960 - and city parks yeah there might be oh I mean I mean maybe that's you know we're 00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:19.640 - leading ourselves into another option that we should investigate yeah but yeah 00:35:19.640 --> 00:35:27.400 - well anyway if the task force can keep working on it I think that would be good I think we need 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:35.240 - multiple approaches here you know I don't I don't think we should be satisfied no yeah I mean it's 00:35:35.240 --> 00:35:43.560 - and I and until until there is a large-scale local option available it's you know multiple 00:35:43.560 --> 00:35:47.880 - approaches well you know I think the things that we're doing are the best step that we can take 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:56.600 - at this point of course that you're talking about have a representative from extension on it 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:08.600 - Purdue extension is that Monroe County extension services we do not but they are you know I can 00:36:08.600 --> 00:36:14.300 - reach out and grab them in the office so we get it certainly yeah it just seems like that might be 00:36:14.300 --> 00:36:14.360 - a 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:18.760 - worthwhile resource we can extend that invitation certainly 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:32.440 - um I have a question about a different topic if we can move on um well we have the update on the 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:42.760 - if yeah the agreement was once the city the city has agreed to the MOU uh in essence um or um they 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:50.120 - got back to me we're uh fixing some of the some typographical errors and dates that need to be 00:36:50.120 --> 00:36:57.800 - corrected on for the timing of it but they have agreed to the MOU um so I would ask if there's 00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:06.680 - interest to bring the uh service space to the service agreement back to the board next week 00:37:06.680 --> 00:37:15.320 - and then and then I had a question related that for the initial pilot agreement 00:37:16.680 --> 00:37:22.040 - I could not find a record of where the board took action on the MOU 00:37:22.040 --> 00:37:30.200 - we they have delegated that I signed I signed off on it and then once it was signed off on 00:37:30.200 --> 00:37:37.560 - we brought the service agreement to the board stating that the MOU had been executed 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:47.000 - so the president the board chair didn't sign it either I that jogged my memory I think that 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.920 - was the case I think it was a matter of timing with the city where the board said that the 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.400 - executive director could proceed with the agreement so there would have been a vote though to say 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:55.640 - that 00:37:55.640 --> 00:38:05.320 - right yeah I I'd like to go back through minutes um so we did it wrong last time yes 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:13.320 - but I but I have no problem with the board voting to allow Tom to sign I mean that's fine 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:19.720 - that's no big deal but by this I guess by the same token you know if I sign it and we bring 00:38:19.720 --> 00:38:26.600 - everything to the board at next week's meeting and the board doesn't approve the contract the 00:38:26.600 --> 00:38:36.520 - mo is null and void so are you saying that last year or two years ago you signed it before the 00:38:36.520 --> 00:38:41.960 - board approved the the resolution the resolution for the service agreement said that the mo you 00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:48.840 - had been executed and the dating of the signatures indicate that that's the legal question how it 00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:56.360 - happened but I can go back to the minutes perhaps there was a consensus or a vote taken to delegate 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:04.200 - um the mo you um it's every regardless I you know I could just tell the city that 00:39:04.200 --> 00:39:09.800 - all you know the mo you will have to go to the board for approval at the next meeting 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:19.560 - that's probably the why is that I don't know oh okay I don't know why why why would we shouldn't be 00:39:22.600 --> 00:39:30.200 - yeah I think that would be the the clearest and most transparent way to do it is to bring both 00:39:30.200 --> 00:39:33.800 - mo you and the contract agreement to the board 00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:41.480 - under separate or the same resolution to be under separate resolutions wouldn't they 00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:46.360 - oh I would say the same one yeah the same thing yeah you can just reference the mo you 00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:52.600 - yeah so that could steal that means I got to rewrite the thing I can't just update enough 00:39:52.600 --> 00:39:57.480 - no that's that's fine 00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:04.040 - so yeah so the question is given that the city has agreed to the mo you 00:40:04.040 --> 00:40:13.480 - is the committee agreeable to that resolution and the service agreement theme on the 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.920 - agenda for the board meeting yes 00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:25.720 - David's shaking yes nodding yes shaking yeah that's what I meant to say 00:40:25.720 --> 00:40:31.400 - consensus to bring that to the board at the next one that's what I 00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:47.000 - okay all I have on that issue thank you Julie you had another topic what is the transition date for 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:53.320 - rumpy service one day two days ago for yesterday yeah so 00:40:53.320 --> 00:41:04.120 - is there any information available at the rural sites or I don't see it on the website about 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:09.480 - the new expanded I need to I need to give a joey joey was trying to clarify some things 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:18.680 - with with runky on the coated cartons we know and we understand but I think that there was also 00:41:18.680 --> 00:41:27.720 - potentially plastic or paper and or paper changes but we're soon to get that clarification 00:41:27.720 --> 00:41:33.880 - we'll get information posted and we will get sign it new signage order to indicate the changes 00:41:34.200 --> 00:41:35.720 - okay 00:41:35.720 --> 00:41:39.720 - social media 00:41:39.720 --> 00:41:45.720 - where do the 00:41:48.440 --> 00:42:06.680 - experts go are they going paper they don't I mean I think it's a big deal and they just started 00:42:06.680 --> 00:42:18.440 - applauding about it but I think you know it's a substantial amount of material yeah 00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:27.640 - but now the little plastic spouts and that's them out and keep them so I'm ready to get rid of them 00:42:27.640 --> 00:42:32.840 - that we now potentially get revenue yeah oh yeah what about the little plastic spouts 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:39.880 - I cut them out do those need to be cut out mr going yes to put the plastic spouts on the coated 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:48.360 - cartons on the milk cartons yeah you should take those off same thing with the uh folded 00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:55.800 - tech you know this what about the plastic piece that's kind of built into the carton 00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:01.480 - you can leave that in that that's not enough contaminant okay 00:43:02.520 --> 00:43:08.200 - cut mine out well that's the message we need to get across yeah I would say cutting them out is 00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:14.600 - the best practice yeah cut them out when I can but I got a basket full of ready to go 00:43:14.600 --> 00:43:20.520 - now that's a big deal it's a huge deal really 00:43:20.520 --> 00:43:26.680 - but I think yeah anything you could do that's flashing on the website and 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:38.120 - be helpful you can do that yeah my social media person is in peru right now 00:43:38.120 --> 00:43:43.800 - oh I'm sure I'm sure I will do my best to make it happen 00:43:49.320 --> 00:44:00.200 - is that kayla or elisa elisa okay but kayla can I'm not confident kayla can develop use canva and 00:44:00.200 --> 00:44:04.760 - develop something that we can post and put some text with 00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:10.600 - but we do on the website too it's it's one of the strongest social media 00:44:10.600 --> 00:44:13.720 - and a lot of folks that do look at the website but what can I bring 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:20.840 - what can't I bring the recycle we strap people to the website 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:30.120 - okay any other um topics that um any members wanted to bring up I may 00:44:30.120 --> 00:44:39.800 - I'm either going to be virtual for the morning or not able to attend so yeah why I 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:47.560 - Julie can you chair the July board meeting because I will not be able to attend yeah 00:44:47.560 --> 00:44:56.280 - well that uh and we have budget stuff in July the budget first presentation for the budget but no 00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:03.560 - action right okay but discussion and do we need to talk so we're gonna are we gonna talk about the 00:45:03.560 --> 00:45:10.840 - budget I think second meeting again in July and I would anticipate I would provide you a preview 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:18.680 - of the presentation the other uh I think it's the other thing I need to ask to have on the agenda 00:45:18.680 --> 00:45:26.440 - for the June board meeting is the joint joint meeting with the CAC in July to review the budget 00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:31.160 - which historically has been either piggyback on the board meeting or the CAC meeting 00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:36.760 - board meeting tends to be the easier one to do because the board members are already available 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:42.280 - there I would keep that if you can so but do you do I would do that if you can confirm that 00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:48.280 - the board with the board okay all right make sure we have a forum okay got it 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:54.040 - anything else for the good of the order 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:06.920 - nope okay well I don't have anything else so I think we can adjourn 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:40.420 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:46:40.420 --> 00:46:43.920 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:47.420 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:46:48.260 --> 00:46:51.760 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.260 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:58.760 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.260 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:05.760 - ("Pomp and Circumstance") 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.260 - ("Pomp and Circumstance")