WEBVTT 00:00:00.354 --> 00:00:09.222 - All right, so I'll call to order this meeting of the Executive Committee of the Waste Production District 00:00:09.222 --> 00:00:17.922 - Board of Directors for Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026. And Mr. McClassen, would you like to do the roll call? 00:00:17.922 --> 00:00:27.125 - Piedmont-Smith? Here. Madera? Here. Willets? Here. Do you have a quorum present in the room? And Commissioner 00:00:27.125 --> 00:00:28.798 - Madera on the line. 00:00:29.538 --> 00:00:38.754 - All right, so the first item of business is approval of executive committee meeting minutes from December 00:00:38.754 --> 00:00:47.796 - 30th. When it was just a counselor Wilson myself from the executive committee who attended that meeting 00:00:47.796 --> 00:00:57.534 - so. I mean that we approve those a second. So roll call vote on approval. That's the number counselor Wilts. I. 00:00:58.274 --> 00:01:05.285 - I will vote yes. And we don't need Commissioner Madeira's vote. And she was there anyway, so. 00:01:05.285 --> 00:01:13.265 - She's there now. Do you want to vote on those minutes? I did read them, but I cannot say yes or no because 00:01:13.265 --> 00:01:21.246 - I was not at the meeting, so abstain. Okay, fair enough. All right, okay. Motion passes to one abstention. 00:01:23.714 --> 00:01:32.676 - Next we have the board of director meeting minutes from February 12, which we just kind of review and 00:01:32.676 --> 00:01:41.725 - see if those are OK to pass on to the board and hold. Um, saw some edits. Yeah, I did some typo edits. 00:01:41.725 --> 00:01:51.390 - Are you the kind of person who can't read something without correcting typos? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's it. 00:01:51.778 --> 00:01:59.851 - Losing in a curse. Yeah. Curse on the people who are sending me things. That's good. I didn't, um, so, 00:01:59.851 --> 00:02:07.767 - um, maybe we can, Joey Long is here and Kayla, uh, Strandis are, they're both here. I just, I didn't 00:02:07.767 --> 00:02:15.605 - want to ignore you. You're here. Welcome to the meeting. Um, and maybe you're here for some of the, 00:02:15.605 --> 00:02:19.838 - uh, items coming up, like a cornbread composting. So. 00:02:20.802 --> 00:02:29.571 - Mr. McClassen, you want to go launching to that one? I can't. So the memo on page seven of the packet 00:02:29.571 --> 00:02:38.427 - introduces this agenda item and I still recall at the end of last year, Mr. Winnia advised that he was 00:02:38.427 --> 00:02:47.454 - moving out of state and had some new complexes ready to sign on. So the district via the board agreed to 00:02:47.746 --> 00:02:56.056 - take on assumed responsibility for the partner period for those two new complexes. And so Ms. 00:02:56.056 --> 00:03:04.985 - Tran and Mr. Long are here. They have done the bulk of the work associated with that. And so we kind 00:03:04.985 --> 00:03:14.974 - of wanted to initiate and we've kind of discussed this briefly. In the last year, you know, what's the district? 00:03:15.906 --> 00:03:24.871 - going to do with this program? What is the board's desire with this program? And having having gotten 00:03:24.871 --> 00:03:33.660 - into this, you know, we have found that Mr Wenio was still also providing some service to complexes 00:03:33.660 --> 00:03:42.713 - that were beyond their partner period. Predominantly repairs to bins, but also maybe some training for 00:03:42.713 --> 00:03:45.438 - some new tenants that came on. 00:03:45.602 --> 00:03:53.961 - So I kind of wanted Mr. Grant and Mr. Long to talk to you about what their experience has been in a 00:03:53.961 --> 00:04:02.320 - couple of months that we've been doing this and kind of look at down the road, what are we going to 00:04:02.320 --> 00:04:10.679 - do? Are we going to finish out the partner period for those two new complexes and then be done with 00:04:10.679 --> 00:04:14.942 - the program? Are we going to continue this program 00:04:15.234 --> 00:04:23.140 - in the same manner that one sustainable Joe was operating this program? Are we going to do something 00:04:23.140 --> 00:04:31.516 - somewhere in between? Because one of the things that we found is the complex is beyond the partner period. 00:04:31.516 --> 00:04:39.422 - Mr. Winnier was, if he was doing repairs to the compost bins, he was billing them for that. Well, we 00:04:39.422 --> 00:04:43.806 - don't have a mechanism in our fee structure to do that. 00:04:44.738 --> 00:04:52.557 - done some of that over the past couple of months just because they needed to be done and we're trying 00:04:52.557 --> 00:05:00.377 - to keep the program moving, but we kind of need the board to understand what it is that we're getting 00:05:00.377 --> 00:05:08.196 - into and have the board tell us what they want us to do with this program moving forward. So I wanted 00:05:08.196 --> 00:05:11.646 - them to come here and kind of explain to you 00:05:11.746 --> 00:05:18.689 - time commitment that's involved, the kind of expenses that we're seeing, decide if we need to change 00:05:18.689 --> 00:05:25.769 - our fee resolution to add a way to invoice those complexes when we do repairs past the partner period, 00:05:25.769 --> 00:05:32.643 - but also look at the time commitment that's involved and think down the road, particularly if we're 00:05:32.643 --> 00:05:38.142 - going to service complexes beyond the partner period, what happens when we have 00:05:38.242 --> 00:05:48.977 - 15 participating, 20 participating. Do we have the capacity and the resources to service those with 00:05:48.977 --> 00:06:00.248 - our current staff and budget? If one of you wants to take it away. Sure. So most of what I've been doing 00:06:00.248 --> 00:06:07.870 - has been continuing the contact for the two partner sites, especially. 00:06:08.290 --> 00:06:16.334 - They were still doing training for new turners coming in. Most of the training for new people coming 00:06:16.334 --> 00:06:24.697 - in is automated. That's just a when their information gets populated into the form that's on the website 00:06:24.697 --> 00:06:32.901 - for it. I have to go find their information populated into the form that we keep in the Google Doc for 00:06:32.901 --> 00:06:38.078 - them and then send the training out to them. So the rest of the- 00:06:38.242 --> 00:06:45.541 - module. Yeah, it's an online training module. I think there are a few videos with it. And then Turner's 00:06:45.541 --> 00:06:52.559 - have another training module. And then if they have questions, I believe Joe was doing an in-person 00:06:52.559 --> 00:06:59.788 - training for Turner's as well. And then any questions or concerns for the site leads and communication 00:06:59.788 --> 00:07:06.526 - with them as everything changes. And then whenever a partner exits, that same form gets filled. 00:07:06.786 --> 00:07:16.016 - I have to go and take their information out and then repopulate the info for each person in each site. 00:07:16.016 --> 00:07:25.604 - And repair work. We've had to do a decent amount of it in the last two or three months. One bin is falling 00:07:25.604 --> 00:07:34.654 - apart. One is repaired now. It was falling apart. All the rain and snow melt kind of washed out part 00:07:34.654 --> 00:07:35.998 - of the corner. 00:07:36.322 --> 00:07:44.227 - and it collapsed one of the bin sides. And to be fair, that was an incredibly full bin. So I'm not very 00:07:44.227 --> 00:07:52.133 - surprised that the extra rain hindered that. But it's been some other small repair work here and there. 00:07:52.133 --> 00:07:59.810 - A lot of it seems to be because of snow melt and the weather getting warmer and the weather exposure 00:07:59.810 --> 00:08:00.798 - to the bins. 00:08:02.306 --> 00:08:09.484 - their repair work. Part of the problem is when you use untreated wood and it gets wet and dries out, 00:08:09.484 --> 00:08:16.663 - it expands and shrinks. It was put together with like a one inch brad nail. So it pulls apart really 00:08:16.663 --> 00:08:24.126 - easy. And you use wood screws. There are some, but there's not many. And they're aluminum. And the other 00:08:24.126 --> 00:08:30.238 - problem we found is while I was out repairing one of the places, I actually, the lady 00:08:30.594 --> 00:08:36.988 - I showed how to turn it with a shovel and because there's no structure on the outside, if you imagine 00:08:36.988 --> 00:08:43.320 - three U's, so it's a U shape as they fill up and they start moving and turning the stuff, it spreads 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:49.965 - out. But then you can't get the wood to come back together. So we've adapted ways to put removable boards 00:08:49.965 --> 00:08:56.297 - on it that will hold it all as one unit. We're spending two guys about four and a half to five hours 00:08:56.297 --> 00:08:58.366 - repairing them and that's a cost 00:08:58.530 --> 00:09:05.949 - about $70 to $80 per unit. One of them is a fairly new one, what, a couple months now? I think that's 00:09:05.949 --> 00:09:13.295 - the church site. That was November. Yeah. And the other one is it's out of its commitment. I believe 00:09:13.295 --> 00:09:20.568 - Joe told him before he leave that we would repair it. Right now we're waiting on the ground because 00:09:20.568 --> 00:09:25.150 - where it was placed, it's on a slope. The ground is not level. 00:09:25.570 --> 00:09:32.425 - It's over full, so it's lifted up and it's expanded out. So we're gonna have to dig that one completely 00:09:32.425 --> 00:09:39.149 - out, replace some boards and screws, add structure to it, make it all one unit where it's tight, then 00:09:39.149 --> 00:09:46.070 - put it back together and show the people how to turn this stuff the right way. We're also having trouble 00:09:46.070 --> 00:09:52.134 - with like there's signs on top. So they have to remove the signs as they fill them up. Like 00:09:52.134 --> 00:09:55.166 - as one compartment is done, they have to move 00:09:55.458 --> 00:10:01.686 - at the church, you know. We've shown them how to move the signs that way, they know what band they're 00:10:01.686 --> 00:10:07.975 - using, because that one was also over four. We had to dig it completely out, fix it, fill it back out. 00:10:07.975 --> 00:10:14.447 - Just started. Mm-hmm. Well, that's the thing is, you know... That one's, I think, is the fastest build-up 00:10:14.447 --> 00:10:20.797 - one. Yeah, that's the one that's... New peoples. And that's at a church, and that actually has the most 00:10:20.797 --> 00:10:24.094 - participants of any of our sites. Yeah, I believe it. 00:10:24.226 --> 00:10:30.338 - And it's also they have a lot of brown, so they should break the ball, the leaves and put in there. 00:10:30.338 --> 00:10:36.573 - They have large quantity of browns that Joe was trying to fix with them before he left, and they just 00:10:36.573 --> 00:10:42.929 - never quite got that mix fixed. And so by the time the leaves and everything froze, it was already over 00:10:42.929 --> 00:10:48.980 - full, and it couldn't compress down because everything was frozen. I don't necessarily think that, 00:10:48.980 --> 00:10:50.814 - you know, that any of this is 00:10:51.714 --> 00:10:59.352 - unreasonable or even to an extent unexpected, but these are the types that if we continue the program 00:10:59.352 --> 00:11:07.065 - as is, these are the types of things that if we're going to, particularly if we're going to do service 00:11:07.065 --> 00:11:14.553 - and maintenance beyond the partner period, this is the type of stuff that we're gonna run into. And 00:11:14.553 --> 00:11:16.350 - then what cost estimate 00:11:16.450 --> 00:11:23.218 - If we sign a new complex on, what's it going to cost us to build that three-bin system? So I technically 00:11:23.218 --> 00:11:29.664 - have built one not using brad nails and using the same wood and stuff just to see. We're roughly at 00:11:29.664 --> 00:11:36.174 - about $220 plus my time. So material is $220, maybe $225, let's say. Is that including the tools and 00:11:36.174 --> 00:11:42.942 - the weight? That is not. That is not including a shovel, a pitchfork, or a rake. Which you give to them. 00:11:43.074 --> 00:11:49.045 - Yeah. Yeah. Scale. But that's the three wooden bands built. And it would all be, so the first design 00:11:49.045 --> 00:11:54.957 - was, as anything's new, as you design something, you know, as it fills up and you work with it, you 00:11:54.957 --> 00:12:01.046 - learn the flaws. So the way I've designed this one with the same thing that Joe did was mine's all one 00:12:01.046 --> 00:12:07.312 - unit tied together. But you can remove the boards and do what you need to do, then put them back together 00:12:07.312 --> 00:12:12.574 - and it ties it all back together so it doesn't lose none of its strength as it fills up. 00:12:13.186 --> 00:12:19.307 - and somebody can still get in there and move the dirt around and shovel where you're pushing on the 00:12:19.307 --> 00:12:25.734 - sides of the front and back. And it's still going to be structurally sound. And hopefully, I don't think 00:12:25.734 --> 00:12:31.977 - we would have to repair it for a while. I don't want to say a couple of years, because you never know 00:12:31.977 --> 00:12:38.282 - if a board's going to get broke. Somebody's going to treat something. But with shovels and everything, 00:12:38.282 --> 00:12:42.750 - I would say high side, $350. Including your time? Not including my time. 00:12:45.154 --> 00:12:52.243 - And it took me about six hours to build it. And I know we are talking too about the possibility of adding 00:12:52.243 --> 00:12:59.264 - additional bins at some of the sites. The church in particular. When Joe designed was a three bin system 00:12:59.264 --> 00:13:05.952 - where you have an active bin, a bin that holds your grounds that you mix in as the food goes in and 00:13:05.952 --> 00:13:12.706 - then the empty bin when the active bin fills up, you can build that. Well, like the church filled up 00:13:12.706 --> 00:13:14.846 - the active bin in three months. 00:13:15.266 --> 00:13:20.719 - So they may need four bins, because otherwise... Are you going to be able to use all the combos that 00:13:20.719 --> 00:13:26.281 - I think you use? Well, I... They've had a lot of members that are interested. Yeah, I think they have. 00:13:26.281 --> 00:13:31.788 - They have quite a few that are going to stay on the site this year. Another parishioner wants some of 00:13:31.788 --> 00:13:34.110 - it for home garden stuff, and they have... 00:13:34.274 --> 00:13:41.737 - areas on site that they can use it. Do they have space for maybe putting the browns in something larger 00:13:41.737 --> 00:13:49.201 - and separate, like a cage? Possibly? We could build a separate bin for the browns, then they could have 00:13:49.201 --> 00:13:56.449 - three. That's what I was thinking. How fast are they filling it up? How long does it take for a full 00:13:56.449 --> 00:14:02.046 - bin to reduce to soil so we can empty it out and start using it again? We may 00:14:02.402 --> 00:14:07.826 - You know, there may be situations where we have to go, you know, to the floor bench system or construct 00:14:07.826 --> 00:14:13.302 - a separate grounds bin. Especially if I'm getting that much this time of year. It takes so long to break 00:14:13.302 --> 00:14:18.778 - down. I will say, me and another guy who was there digging them out and repairing them, there were three 00:14:18.778 --> 00:14:23.993 - or four customers wanting to know if they'd be able to use it within an hour. It was like, we hoped 00:14:23.993 --> 00:14:29.260 - to have it back, you know, because we didn't completely repair that one. We got it back structurally 00:14:29.260 --> 00:14:31.294 - sound where they could keep use of it. 00:14:31.426 --> 00:14:37.023 - And we had it done within an hour. That was at an apartment? That was at the church. The one at the 00:14:37.023 --> 00:14:42.621 - apartment, we are going to have to completely have to remove, dig out, fix, and put it back. And it 00:14:42.621 --> 00:14:48.330 - makes sense for theirs. They have a community garden on site maybe 20 feet away from the compost bin. 00:14:48.330 --> 00:14:54.095 - So they are actively using quite a bit of it. It's getting... At this particular apartment? Yes. We're 00:14:54.095 --> 00:14:56.222 - helping them. It's getting very full. 00:14:56.322 --> 00:15:02.218 - But they put the compost bins probably 100 yards away from the community yard. We're hoping they'll 00:15:02.218 --> 00:15:08.231 - let us move it to the community garden. Does it make sense if that's what they're going to use it on? 00:15:08.231 --> 00:15:14.127 - It'll be closer. And the spot it's in right now is going to age it faster. It's in a drainage area. 00:15:14.127 --> 00:15:19.905 - So the woods swollen a lot more than expected. And the one I built, we do have on hand. That way, 00:15:19.905 --> 00:15:23.678 - you know, if we need to show somebody one, we have one on hand. 00:15:25.218 --> 00:15:37.562 - at South Walnut Street. Well, I don't know if we want to be in the business of building and repairing 00:15:37.562 --> 00:15:49.664 - bins. I mean, it almost seems like it's more in our wheelhouse to provide the expertise and explain 00:15:49.664 --> 00:15:51.358 - how to do it. 00:15:52.354 --> 00:15:58.653 - than to be carpenters and ships. And we have been doing that. Kayla and us and the staff at South Hornet 00:15:58.653 --> 00:16:05.012 - has worked together and we're saving brown paper right now because some places doesn't get enough leaves. 00:16:05.012 --> 00:16:11.611 - So, you know, I know Kayla has set up boxes of brown paper for them right now. Yeah, that and our restitution 00:16:11.611 --> 00:16:17.730 - workers worked a lot with that too. Yes, we get restitution workers. It's a great job to have them do 00:16:17.730 --> 00:16:21.150 - it. Restitution workers. It's community or when somebody 00:16:21.826 --> 00:16:29.647 - orderly community. Yes, we have that. So yeah, we had a self walnut. We we did that. I accept up to 00:16:29.647 --> 00:16:37.468 - 10 or 12. At a period of time, depending on how active they are. Really? Yes, so sometimes you have 00:16:37.468 --> 00:16:45.289 - 10 or 12 people. We don't know. I mean, I have 10 or 12 that scheduled could be there, but we don't 00:16:45.289 --> 00:16:49.982 - try to get that many 10 to 12 is about what I have on hand. 00:16:50.178 --> 00:16:58.696 - Two or three at any one time. Any questions? Yeah. They send us all information, how many hours and 00:16:58.696 --> 00:17:07.384 - stuff. You don't have to know that. I didn't know it until recently. And we have some criteria on the 00:17:07.384 --> 00:17:15.646 - types of offenses that we will accept. Just because they are with the public and stuff and work. 00:17:15.874 --> 00:17:23.050 - hands-on. I do have also one volunteer from Stone Belt right now. I do actually stay and he comes in 00:17:23.050 --> 00:17:30.226 - and does an hour or two depending on how things are going. But those folks probably are going to run 00:17:30.226 --> 00:17:37.756 - this whole program for you. And you can't count on them for that later. It is helpful to have that though 00:17:37.756 --> 00:17:40.030 - because right now I'm having to 00:17:40.834 --> 00:17:49.053 - we're having to save brown paper aside and then rip it up into manageable pieces, because we don't have 00:17:49.053 --> 00:17:56.956 - anything that can rip it up. And otherwise it's coming in with sprinkles or these sheets. Yeah. But 00:17:56.956 --> 00:18:05.096 - I don't think that any of us want to see it just go away. But I don't know that what we're doing right 00:18:05.096 --> 00:18:07.230 - now is sustainable for us. 00:18:07.842 --> 00:18:15.859 - moving down the road, like I said, if we have 15 or 20 complexes, schools, churches, whatever, participating, 00:18:15.859 --> 00:18:23.293 - and they're all expecting us to do repairs on bins, they're all expecting us to do onboarding for new 00:18:23.293 --> 00:18:30.727 - tenants or new participants, I mean, when you get to that many participating complexes, we just don't 00:18:30.727 --> 00:18:37.214 - have the staff and the resources to be able to do that. So, you know, I think we need to 00:18:38.754 --> 00:18:45.049 - I don't know the magic number, but we need to put some sort of a time limit. And, you know, the department 00:18:45.049 --> 00:18:51.049 - complexes in particular, they have a maintenance crew or maintenance contractor, and there's going to 00:18:51.049 --> 00:18:56.933 - come a point where you're going to have to take this over. And we'll be there as a resource. We can 00:18:56.933 --> 00:19:03.110 - help with education and stuff. But, you know, we can't come out and, you know, take care of every little 00:19:03.110 --> 00:19:06.110 - maintenance need that you have related to expense. 00:19:06.850 --> 00:19:15.376 - I was secretly hoping that somebody would apply for a grant program and say, I can take this 00:19:15.376 --> 00:19:24.543 - over. Ironically, I was thinking if either we or say the UU church applied for like a Sophia Travis 00:19:24.543 --> 00:19:33.894 - or Jefferson, Jack Hopkins, one of those grants to then fund their participation in it. So we changed 00:19:33.894 --> 00:19:36.094 - the model a little bit. 00:19:37.122 --> 00:19:48.405 - And if we apply, it would be to pay for the materials to do this for the community, the locations that 00:19:48.405 --> 00:19:59.689 - we have. If you apply, then we would maybe have to set up sort of a fee thing for managing their post. 00:19:59.689 --> 00:20:03.742 - And that could be a model for other. 00:20:03.970 --> 00:20:12.231 - And I think, and right now, I'm not saying this has to go to the board next week and the board has to 00:20:12.231 --> 00:20:20.491 - tell us what we want to do. We're good where we are right now. The only thing that we're probably not 00:20:20.491 --> 00:20:28.590 - doing right now is actively recruiting new participants. The six or seven participants that we have 00:20:28.590 --> 00:20:33.854 - right now, it's not burdening us to take care of them right now. 00:20:34.114 --> 00:20:43.779 - Two in a partner period. Is it just six total? Pretty sure. It's six total, but I thought we had three 00:20:43.779 --> 00:20:53.351 - in a partner period. Yeah, two. It's the newer apartment that I showed you guys, and then the church. 00:20:53.351 --> 00:21:02.078 - Yeah. And we probably could do some recruitment. And if we brought a handful of new ones on, 00:21:02.370 --> 00:21:11.875 - as long as they weren't all at the same time, we could probably manage that. But I don't want to get 00:21:11.875 --> 00:21:21.663 - too far into this without having an idea of what the board's expectation is going to be moving forward. 00:21:21.663 --> 00:21:31.262 - I mean, that's a lot of labor hours and a lot of material costs that are totally replacing something. 00:21:32.290 --> 00:21:42.549 - Well, but Jeff, I mean, we, we give Joe $20,000 to do, to put all this together and set, you know, provide 00:21:42.549 --> 00:21:52.329 - the initial bins and tools and training for all the complex. It was the idea that it, those complexes 00:21:52.329 --> 00:22:00.670 - would keep going. Right. But the idea that they would be taking care of themselves and 00:22:01.634 --> 00:22:09.185 - to some degree it's happened, to some degree it's not happened. And I think, well, I guess, you know, 00:22:09.185 --> 00:22:17.105 - Joe was still servicing ones out of the partner period, but he was billing them for those services because 00:22:17.105 --> 00:22:24.656 - they were beyond the partner period, which was beyond the term of the funding that we, the city would 00:22:24.656 --> 00:22:31.614 - provide. Would there be anybody to repair things? I don't know that. Were they like expecting 00:22:32.194 --> 00:22:39.427 - I don't know. The district to do this? Or were they just like? Well, I know that I don't know, but I'm 00:22:39.427 --> 00:22:46.871 - not sure. You didn't really have that discussion with with Joe. No, the one apartment complex they expect 00:22:46.871 --> 00:22:54.104 - us to completely fix it, right? Which one? The one where the grounds and level because Joe was already 00:22:54.104 --> 00:23:01.197 - doing that. He was doing the repairs and charging them already. So they already had that set up with 00:23:01.197 --> 00:23:02.110 - him and they 00:23:02.722 --> 00:23:12.564 - they expected to pay to get that done. But we don't have a mechanism. We don't have a mechanism to build. 00:23:12.564 --> 00:23:22.128 - Yeah. By mechanism, you just mean like policy. Yeah, we don't have anything in the fee resolution that 00:23:22.128 --> 00:23:31.134 - we could use to build it through this. I mean, that's certainly possible unless it's just beyond 00:23:32.066 --> 00:23:40.869 - capacity or will? No, I mean, we could amend the fee resolution to include carbon composting, 00:23:40.869 --> 00:23:51.077 - multi-participate. How do we want to term it? You know, a fee structure to build them for services rendered. 00:23:51.077 --> 00:24:00.536 - As I said, the question is, do we want to set an expectation that five years from now we'll be doing 00:24:00.536 --> 00:24:01.566 - this work? 00:24:04.290 --> 00:24:10.740 - reason why I built one was the idea behind it is if we have it on hand, maybe somebody from the apartment 00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:17.069 - complex or someplace can come live and we go over it with them and they can have some money do the work 00:24:17.069 --> 00:24:23.276 - if they can see what needs to be done to beat things and stuff. They need to get a better idea of how 00:24:23.276 --> 00:24:29.483 - much each part costs us. And if they're willing to pay Joe or pay us to do it and they have their own 00:24:29.483 --> 00:24:32.830 - maintenance crew, we'll gladly show them how to do it. 00:24:34.082 --> 00:24:43.061 - It sounds like that would be preferable, would be to let them graduate from the program so to speak. 00:24:43.061 --> 00:24:52.039 - Wish them well. Some guidance. Yeah. The worst case scenario that we don't want is that it just sits 00:24:52.039 --> 00:25:01.107 - abandoned and disintegrates into nothing because then we've wasted however much time and money during 00:25:01.107 --> 00:25:02.974 - that period of time. 00:25:03.202 --> 00:25:10.213 - And most of the sites are very excited about it. Like, especially the church is extremely excited about 00:25:10.213 --> 00:25:17.156 - it. And then apartments present a little different challenge because of turnover. And with the church, 00:25:17.156 --> 00:25:24.099 - you're going to have people that are going to be there and doing that for a number of years, you could 00:25:24.099 --> 00:25:31.109 - imagine. Church members don't leave and go to a new church every year. Some do, but most of them don't. 00:25:31.109 --> 00:25:32.862 - The main church, I think, 00:25:33.154 --> 00:25:41.906 - That's a good, if we were able to continue the program with more new partners, I think reaching out 00:25:41.906 --> 00:25:50.833 - to some other churches is probably a good idea. I can't remember if it was Joe. Or faith communities. 00:25:50.833 --> 00:25:59.672 - It could have possibly been Matt and the Bokashi stuff that they do, but one of them had talked with 00:25:59.672 --> 00:26:02.910 - another church about doing something 00:26:03.074 --> 00:26:11.898 - at the church property. I think the First United Church would be a good place for people's worship. 00:26:11.898 --> 00:26:20.987 - So then we can certainly do that, but what are we wanting to do with this program? I don't want to get 00:26:20.987 --> 00:26:29.987 - us committed to things that the Lord's not prepared for us to follow through with. So we were already 00:26:29.987 --> 00:26:31.134 - line-iteming 00:26:31.522 --> 00:26:48.260 - $20,000 annually to make this happen, right? I think it was 25. It was 25. We did have, and the city 00:26:48.260 --> 00:26:59.198 - did. I mean, it all funneled through us. The city just, you know, 00:26:59.426 --> 00:27:08.626 - gave us their hand of the contribution and then we did all the finances with Sustainable Joe. How much 00:27:08.626 --> 00:27:17.557 - of that $25,000 was actually drawn down by Sustainable Joe? Was actually what? Drawn down, like how 00:27:17.557 --> 00:27:27.293 - much did we actually pay out based on the full amount? Yeah. Was there a limit on the number of participants 00:27:27.293 --> 00:27:28.990 - under that amount? 00:27:30.466 --> 00:27:40.728 - There was not a hard limit. There, I think, was an expectation each year to get four to five complexes 00:27:40.728 --> 00:27:50.891 - signed up. Obviously, that wasn't that because we're only at six right now. But all that you could do 00:27:50.891 --> 00:27:56.670 - is present it and you can't force somebody else to do it. 00:28:06.018 --> 00:28:17.592 - It seems to me that it's more important for the district to get more sites than to keep babysitting 00:28:17.592 --> 00:28:28.702 - the old sites. Especially if we focus on churches or other like. Yeah, I would agree. Or other, 00:28:28.702 --> 00:28:34.142 - you know, big bang for the buck kind of sites. 00:28:34.754 --> 00:28:41.933 - The way that we increase the impact of the program is to get more sites up and running. That's how we're 00:28:41.933 --> 00:28:48.769 - diverting the material. Yeah, we have limited resources, so I'd rather spend them during the end of 00:28:48.769 --> 00:28:56.085 - the week, if I've said anything. No, I'm just listening because I didn't know very much about this program 00:28:56.085 --> 00:29:02.990 - since I came in, you know, to office part way through. So yeah, I really like it. I'm just wondering 00:29:02.990 --> 00:29:03.742 - if there's 00:29:04.226 --> 00:29:13.323 - ways to grow it. Well, I think there are, and that's with one sustainable job being done, that means 00:29:13.323 --> 00:29:22.329 - that it's us having to go out and identify and recruit new participants. I wonder if we can partner 00:29:22.329 --> 00:29:31.966 - with the high school, like Hoosier Hills. You know, and I actually, I don't remember if it was about this, 00:29:32.066 --> 00:29:38.551 - I've had discussions with, and I can't think of her married name, but Katie Frue, who used to work at 00:29:38.551 --> 00:29:44.972 - Purdue Extension Services, and now is at Food for Builders, about this. And she had interest, and it 00:29:44.972 --> 00:29:51.965 - would fall, and it would fall under her program. It might fall under it, I do. Food for Builders, vocational? 00:29:51.965 --> 00:29:58.450 - Katie Frue works with FFA, so that's part of it. My son would have loved something like this, because 00:29:58.450 --> 00:30:01.438 - you get the building, and you get the farming, 00:30:02.018 --> 00:30:09.032 - you get, or agriculture, or egg science, and you could almost get the marketing in there too. So I could 00:30:09.032 --> 00:30:15.712 - certainly reach back out to her, and this may not be the right time to start something she may want 00:30:15.712 --> 00:30:22.392 - to shoot for next August, start of next school year, but. I think it would take that long to get it 00:30:22.392 --> 00:30:29.406 - prepped, but there would almost be like an entrepreneurship or a business club that could help to pitch. 00:30:29.794 --> 00:30:38.420 - So you can get a group of seniors together to pick up where one sustainable job left off after they 00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:47.391 - or partner with IU is a capacity, you know, maybe. I mean, if we if we take the product on and continue 00:30:47.391 --> 00:30:54.206 - it, is there interest that you want to keep doing the work? That's a question. 00:30:54.914 --> 00:31:02.196 - I enjoy it and it's definitely needed. It's one of the biggest gaps that we have that we get asked about 00:31:02.196 --> 00:31:09.269 - constantly is some sort of composting somehow. And it's a good idea and it works better. I think part 00:31:09.269 --> 00:31:16.620 - of it was just, there were a few things that the design we needed to change to make the building material 00:31:16.620 --> 00:31:23.070 - last a little longer. And I definitely think, especially with me having to input each person 00:31:23.426 --> 00:31:32.888 - as they come into the program, moving that off to the site leads of the sites, all of that is gonna 00:31:32.888 --> 00:31:42.444 - help a lot more. Or having a different outlet for them to buy browns or something along those lines. 00:31:42.444 --> 00:31:52.190 - Well, what Joe started the program with was they were only using leaves. And a lot of the sites either 00:31:52.514 --> 00:31:59.732 - didn't rake their leaves in time, or there's no way for them to keep that many leaves in storage to 00:31:59.732 --> 00:32:07.023 - last the entire year. And some of that's education and training with the participants. Don't recycle 00:32:07.023 --> 00:32:14.313 - or throw your newspapers out. Put them in the grounds. Or the packing papers. Most of what we've got 00:32:14.313 --> 00:32:19.294 - is brown packing paper. Yeah, right. And I know one site uses straw. 00:32:19.554 --> 00:32:25.844 - though Joe didn't recommend the straw because it takes longer to break down. And I was going to tell 00:32:25.844 --> 00:32:32.133 - you, if they go to Rilken, I think because Rilken gets most straw with a lot of the first part, they 00:32:32.133 --> 00:32:38.672 - throw it away. So I was told that if you go stand it up, you could get something. You can go sweep their 00:32:38.672 --> 00:32:45.086 - straw for free. That's fine. Yeah, some sort of outlet for them to buy browns or something that we can 00:32:45.794 --> 00:32:51.493 - do for that. And I think the education and all that is definitely good. We just need to find a point 00:32:51.493 --> 00:32:56.741 - where once we set you up, get you going. Yeah. Where do we launch them off and let go? Yeah. 00:32:56.741 --> 00:33:02.496 - At some point, you know, we got to move on to the next customer. It has to go beyond residents. Yeah. 00:33:02.496 --> 00:33:08.308 - You know, you have to have an employee, I mean, you know, someone at the site who's not moving. Right. 00:33:08.308 --> 00:33:14.289 - And yeah. And, you know, like I said, apartment complexes should have a maintenance crew or a maintenance 00:33:14.289 --> 00:33:14.910 - contractor 00:33:15.010 --> 00:33:23.916 - that they can get set up to do this. Churches, and it's kind of, oh yeah, you got a parishioner that's 00:33:23.916 --> 00:33:31.006 - a weekend carpenter that can do this. I mean, most of them have an on-site staff. 00:33:31.234 --> 00:33:37.032 - I'm sure there's at least one person who can delegate it to someone there. But I don't think any of 00:33:37.032 --> 00:33:42.887 - those are insurmountable. Yeah, I don't know how many would be there. At some point, we would have a 00:33:42.887 --> 00:33:48.569 - full time position just taking care of them. So we need to get away from that. Between all of us, 00:33:48.569 --> 00:33:54.657 - that's what? I think easily we could get up to 10 to 20 units between me and Kayla working with somebody 00:33:54.657 --> 00:34:01.150 - at each location, we could handle that fairly easy. At that moment, it might be an hour a week for one of us to 00:34:01.410 --> 00:34:08.716 - to help somebody, we could do that. I think we kind of need to, if we're going to move this forward 00:34:08.716 --> 00:34:16.314 - in a similar or same fashion, we kind of really need to redefine what that partner period is. And maybe 00:34:16.314 --> 00:34:23.693 - it goes to two years, to 24 months, and then it's a hard stop. Was it two years? It's 12 months now. 00:34:23.693 --> 00:34:28.734 - Oh. So we kind of need to redefine that and say that is a hard stop. 00:34:28.866 --> 00:34:35.144 - At the end of that, and we're going to, you need to make sure, we're going to train your staff or whoever 00:34:35.144 --> 00:34:41.186 - you identify, the bin construction and the maintenance, and they can understand the design of that so 00:34:41.186 --> 00:34:47.287 - they know how to fix it. Yeah, because it possibly can't grow. Right, if we stole the bins, if you can 00:34:47.287 --> 00:34:51.966 - make them on site, I get fee structure, blah, blah, blah, but installing them. 00:34:52.226 --> 00:34:59.473 - Because they can pick it up or we can deliver. They're fairly large. I mean, you can build them and 00:34:59.473 --> 00:35:06.864 - install them, but that's not so much the problem. Again, it's how much do we have invested every week 00:35:06.864 --> 00:35:14.111 - with each unit? That's where our problem is. And when you say unit, you mean site? Yeah, each site. 00:35:14.111 --> 00:35:20.126 - So I would hit the three things. That's one unit. So. Yeah, I just wonder, I mean, 00:35:20.322 --> 00:35:29.567 - and storing them. That's going to be the other issue. Oh, yeah. And we provide a certain amount of technical 00:35:29.567 --> 00:35:38.304 - assistance. I'm just trying to not drop them. Well, no, I think that we're always there as a resource. 00:35:38.304 --> 00:35:45.598 - But we can't always be there to go repair a bin, particularly if we get up to 15, 20, 00:35:46.658 --> 00:35:55.611 - participating complex. Say after two years, you can call. But if you have a new tenant, a new resident 00:35:55.611 --> 00:36:04.478 - participant that has questions, yeah, have them call us. We can do that stuff. Why do we need to keep 00:36:04.478 --> 00:36:10.302 - track so closely of the people who are participating at each site? 00:36:11.106 --> 00:36:17.123 - I believe part of it, well, so the system he has right now, training partially, and the system he has 00:36:17.123 --> 00:36:23.022 - in place right now, they have each person has a code, and that code is a QR code that is associated 00:36:23.022 --> 00:36:29.038 - with them. That is how they are tracking the weight of the compost for each site. When they go there, 00:36:29.038 --> 00:36:35.173 - they're supposed to use the app and that QR code, scale their weights, and then they dump their compost 00:36:35.173 --> 00:36:39.774 - so that we can keep track of the weights of each site. That's how we measure. 00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:47.588 - The impact of the program. Each one has the impact. And I know we've talked about moving to some sort 00:36:47.588 --> 00:36:55.118 - of average per person. Because when we met with Joe, before he turned it all over to us, he was pretty 00:36:55.118 --> 00:37:01.406 - confident that many of the places, many of the participants had kind of quit weighing 00:37:01.666 --> 00:37:08.160 - Yeah, I would be looking at the data even so far for this year from the church's one and the little 00:37:08.160 --> 00:37:15.109 - bit they did last year. There is no way that even a quarter of their people, I think it's barely a quarter 00:37:15.109 --> 00:37:21.798 - that away because that volume is not weighed it. You don't still want me to track each person. I mean, 00:37:21.798 --> 00:37:27.838 - you could just track the site and the people tracking is is how he's he was keeping track of 00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:34.640 - their number for that weight and if they've done the training. He wasn't giving them the information 00:37:34.640 --> 00:37:41.408 - or the bin codes until they completed that training. There's a lot of things I think I would tweak about 00:37:41.408 --> 00:37:48.111 - this whole process to make it easier on you all. Yeah, yeah. Making it easier on the participants. Yes, 00:37:48.111 --> 00:37:54.750 - for sure, yes. But I do think that we, and what Kayla and I had talked about was we set up somebody to 00:37:54.850 --> 00:38:00.649 - And you tell them, okay, for the first three months, everybody needs to weigh and we're going to get 00:38:00.649 --> 00:38:06.562 - an average per person. Each dump into the bin averages two and a half pounds. And so then we just need 00:38:06.562 --> 00:38:12.361 - to know how many participants don't think how many times a week and we can estimate this is how much 00:38:12.361 --> 00:38:13.854 - weight we're doing. Yeah. 00:38:14.690 --> 00:38:19.645 - Or I mean, honestly, we could do calculations just based, we know the depth, we know the dimensions 00:38:19.645 --> 00:38:24.649 - of the bins. That's exciting. We know how much brown, roughly, that we're putting in. We could do an 00:38:24.649 --> 00:38:29.851 - estimate calculation just based on how full the bin is. And what happens in the church, the three people 00:38:29.851 --> 00:38:34.905 - weigh it, they just have to do it. Yeah, I don't think any of them are weighing it hardly at all. But 00:38:34.905 --> 00:38:40.256 - we need to have some way to estimate that difference. Yeah. And that is because we have to track everything 00:38:40.256 --> 00:38:43.774 - we do? We have to show some impact and how, and this is to justify it. 00:38:44.258 --> 00:38:53.807 - If you look at your estimates of how full the bucket is, we could. We could do the buckets that we're 00:38:53.807 --> 00:39:03.637 - providing them, compost buckets that have the QR code on them to scale. We could do a volume calculation 00:39:03.637 --> 00:39:13.374 - based on how full the bin is. Some of it is also anticipating state reporting requirements coming down. 00:39:13.634 --> 00:39:21.712 - Yeah, that's fine. You haven't promised any specific entity, specific types of data at this point, right? 00:39:21.712 --> 00:39:29.561 - But it's also, yeah, reporting requirements, or if there becomes a grant that we can then become aware 00:39:29.561 --> 00:39:37.257 - of, maybe, you know, say, hey, this is working, but when you want it to continue, we need that data. 00:39:37.257 --> 00:39:43.582 - Yeah. But yeah, not for a person. But like I said, you know, this is not something 00:39:43.778 --> 00:39:50.129 - that we need the board to provide direction on next week. I think after this discussion, I think we 00:39:50.129 --> 00:39:56.163 - can go out and we can start reaching out and we can try to find, you know, try to recruit some 00:39:56.163 --> 00:40:02.705 - new participants from the apartments or churches or- I mean, honestly- or whatever. We have some great 00:40:02.705 --> 00:40:09.056 - businesses that I know are interested in that before. But I think, but I, we need to make the board 00:40:09.056 --> 00:40:13.502 - aware of this and what we're getting into and that we need, you know, 00:40:13.730 --> 00:40:21.288 - In the near future, we're going to need some sort of direction on where this program is going to go. 00:40:21.288 --> 00:40:28.995 - So we did budget for this for this coming year, right? Yes. So we did. How much? $12,500. The city has 00:40:28.995 --> 00:40:36.627 - $12,500 budgeted, but it's not given that up yet because we don't know what we're doing. Well, that's 00:40:36.627 --> 00:40:41.566 - a good idea. When the city give us $12,500 to manage the program, 00:40:42.882 --> 00:40:50.872 - I don't know, I'll have to talk to Sean Mia and see what, you know, explain to her where we are and 00:40:50.872 --> 00:40:59.021 - what that means for the city's portion of the funding and what they need to see, what data they have. 00:40:59.021 --> 00:41:07.251 - I'll have to reach, I can reach out to Sean and explain to her where we are, you know, at least in the 00:41:07.251 --> 00:41:10.846 - short term, how we plan to move forward and, 00:41:11.266 --> 00:41:18.673 - What does that mean for the city's agreement to help fund this? Yeah, let's continue to think about 00:41:18.673 --> 00:41:26.302 - and maybe put this on the agenda again the next executive meeting. Do we not want to put it out to the 00:41:26.302 --> 00:41:33.709 - board? Oh, I don't care. I don't care if we bring it up to the board next week or not. I don't know 00:41:33.709 --> 00:41:39.486 - if they have. Yeah, but I think we need to make them aware at some point that 00:41:39.970 --> 00:41:48.436 - what we've gotten ourselves into and stacked up like some direction on where do you want to see this 00:41:48.436 --> 00:41:57.153 - program go? Well I wonder if can we use the CAC also for studying how to make it more efficient or have 00:41:57.153 --> 00:42:05.619 - an extra committee like how are we going to move forward with because I hear two things first of all 00:42:05.619 --> 00:42:09.726 - we need to have some more clear timeline cutoffs 00:42:10.114 --> 00:42:19.113 - And this is after that date, we will give advice, but we won't do X, Y, and Z. And then on the other 00:42:19.113 --> 00:42:28.202 - hand, from what Kate said, there are things in the program itself that we should make more efficient. 00:42:28.202 --> 00:42:37.112 - So how are we going to move forward with those? Just as an executive committee or? You guys are the 00:42:37.112 --> 00:42:39.518 - ones that have been doing. 00:42:40.738 --> 00:42:47.740 - Well, I mean, and I, you know, um, you know, I mean, in the packet was chose participant agreement is 00:42:47.740 --> 00:42:54.811 - scheduled. That was basically the scope of service. You think you could go through that and, you know, 00:42:54.811 --> 00:43:01.882 - suggest some tweaks revisions that will make it easier on us, easier on the participants. We could sit 00:43:01.882 --> 00:43:09.502 - down tomorrow or the first day and go through and talk about it and see what we can do to present something or 00:43:09.698 --> 00:43:16.634 - somewhere you know what we feel comfortable with we could do and handle and what our options are because 00:43:16.634 --> 00:43:23.768 - we don't want to kill the program it's just we need that clear we just need a more hands-on way of handling 00:43:23.768 --> 00:43:30.440 - yeah especially the later participants we see that eventually it's going to get out of hand we can't 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:37.046 - do it with what we do we hope it grows to that point yeah yeah i mean it's it's not like any of the 00:43:37.046 --> 00:43:39.358 - business plan at this point but it 00:43:40.706 --> 00:43:49.254 - it does need to be articulated, you know, what you are committing now, what you are willing to commit, 00:43:49.254 --> 00:43:57.720 - but also like the budget for that because time and $25,000 on the one hand seems like an awful lot to 00:43:57.720 --> 00:44:06.185 - do composting for just seven sites, but I do six sites. Oh my God. You know, on the flip side, I also 00:44:06.185 --> 00:44:08.094 - know time is money and 00:44:08.226 --> 00:44:14.096 - You know, you all are being paid right now. I hope to talk to us. And so, you know, there's a lot to 00:44:14.096 --> 00:44:19.965 - it. Yeah, that's again why we built one on hand so we know what it's going to cost to build one. And 00:44:19.965 --> 00:44:26.068 - if we could just be there as education and get the business to take over the church or what organization 00:44:26.068 --> 00:44:31.937 - to take over for us, then they have the expense of keeping it going and we can just be there to help 00:44:31.937 --> 00:44:37.342 - them maintain it. That's why I say hands off. What we're doing now is fine, but if it grows, 00:44:37.442 --> 00:44:47.174 - and we get 10, 15, 20 participants and we're still doing this for all of them. We have other duties 00:44:47.174 --> 00:44:57.295 - that we have to take care of. Maybe when you talk to the city, they might be a little, and I don't know 00:44:57.295 --> 00:45:05.470 - what they're thinking at this point, obviously, but I would think they would wonder 00:45:05.634 --> 00:45:14.706 - about the $25,000 for seven, six sites as well. I mean, it is sort of the elephant in the room and what 00:45:14.706 --> 00:45:23.690 - can they, can we look at it as here's what it costs to do it. We're not here to like profit and here's 00:45:23.690 --> 00:45:32.587 - what it'll cost as we add two more sites or four more. And then your conversation can be a little bit 00:45:32.587 --> 00:45:34.942 - more specific around need. 00:45:35.938 --> 00:45:45.524 - Am I making you less hard? No. No harder than anybody else. I do a good job of that. Okay. So wait, 00:45:45.524 --> 00:45:55.301 - so the total spent has been 25,000? Or was it more than that? Because we did one year and then we did 00:45:55.301 --> 00:46:00.286 - another year. So we've done two years of it. Right. 00:46:02.690 --> 00:46:13.509 - I know that the first year was $25,000. The second year may have been less than that. I would need to 00:46:13.509 --> 00:46:24.115 - go look at the count, right? But I think without question, we can do it in house cheaper. It's just 00:46:24.115 --> 00:46:31.646 - a matter of graduating those participants so we don't get overwhelmed. 00:46:32.962 --> 00:46:43.082 - Wow. Yeah, I mean, if we think if this is a combined city and district, we spent $50,000 on this. I've 00:46:43.082 --> 00:46:53.105 - seen it, right? That is not the marketing that we go with. No, no, no. But speaking of marketing, and 00:46:53.105 --> 00:47:02.046 - this is not necessarily my favorite, but I assume we would also need to think about how to 00:47:02.242 --> 00:47:12.893 - sell the idea that this is worth Mr. Apartment Manager, Mrs. Apartment Manager time to do. And there 00:47:12.893 --> 00:47:23.861 - are things I think you could say about reduced cost for what's in your dumpster, but. Well, I know that 00:47:23.861 --> 00:47:31.454 - two of the current complexes are both owned slash managed by the abode. 00:47:31.906 --> 00:47:38.528 - And that's, they did their first one and it worked well. So they, and I think that's one of our, it's 00:47:38.528 --> 00:47:45.216 - going into the parking period is their second complex. And, you know, so dealing with those management 00:47:45.216 --> 00:47:51.968 - companies that have multiple conflicts. So they say, let's make, let's pilot it here. If it works, then 00:47:51.968 --> 00:47:58.526 - let's move into this one and then this one and then this one. And, and then when the other companies 00:47:58.526 --> 00:48:00.798 - see that they're competitor. Yeah. 00:48:01.538 --> 00:48:09.800 - attracting residents by offering that, then that was kind of the hope all along that it would become 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:18.225 - a recruiting tool for, you know, a pitch for tenants that, you know, hey, we do this, nobody else did. 00:48:18.225 --> 00:48:26.814 - There are lots of ways we can get past one or two, especially with like the buckets and everything else. 00:48:30.530 --> 00:48:44.274 - We can move forward where we are now. I want to say one more thing. I volunteer at New Hope Preschool. 00:48:44.274 --> 00:48:58.686 - They waste so much food. So I mean, that's a nonprofit, but you know, each kid gets their little breakfast. 00:48:58.786 --> 00:49:06.577 - and some kids eat one bite and the rest goes in the trash. Well, that's, and I bet that's not the only 00:49:06.577 --> 00:49:13.763 - principle. We modified the terms of the agreement with One Sustainable Joe to allow the church 00:49:13.763 --> 00:49:21.932 - to participate. And I think that modification was certainly not specific to churches or faith institutions. 00:49:21.932 --> 00:49:24.126 - It was more broad than that. 00:49:24.738 --> 00:49:32.169 - I was talking with Harmony School and so we tried to put the language in there that would allow for 00:49:32.169 --> 00:49:40.047 - a variety of different things to fit into that. Yeah, I was thinking of the four-year-olds to distinguish 00:49:40.047 --> 00:49:47.627 - that they're going to put their food leftovers in one place and their snotty Kleenex. Isn't that what 00:49:47.627 --> 00:49:52.606 - the volunteer is for? And that's going to be the point too because 00:49:52.802 --> 00:49:58.692 - The way this compost program is set up, we don't do dairy, or high citrus, or meats, or anything like 00:49:58.692 --> 00:50:04.524 - that. Anything cooked in meat technically shouldn't be composted in this program, in this system. It 00:50:04.524 --> 00:50:10.356 - takes like an orange. Technically you're not supposed to put citrus, because it kills the composting 00:50:10.356 --> 00:50:16.304 - bacteria. I mean, this is... Yeah, the acid kills the bacteria. This is in essence backyard composting 00:50:16.304 --> 00:50:22.078 - on a little bit bigger scale. We're not commercially composting, and we're not generating the heat, 00:50:22.690 --> 00:50:33.588 - to take care of a lot of... The bacteria from meat and dairy. Things that aren't compostable, we just 00:50:33.588 --> 00:50:44.806 - don't want to put in there. We also don't want to attract animals. Oh, I have a story for you. How about 00:50:44.806 --> 00:50:52.606 - for the board meeting agenda, we just put a Back to Earth program update 00:50:52.962 --> 00:51:01.149 - and we can face, you know, Jimmy, Kayla, and I can teleport the same things that we've told you. And 00:51:01.149 --> 00:51:09.417 - if you can put some of those things in a PowerPoint, I think the visual always helps if you have time 00:51:09.417 --> 00:51:18.334 - to do it. I have pictures from the pairs and stuff too, if we need them. Did you let us know about the spool? 00:51:18.786 --> 00:51:26.631 - Like I can, or I guess it doesn't matter because that was a contract with somebody else and it can be 00:51:26.631 --> 00:51:34.321 - whatever you all want now. Getting your little kids on board. That was the contract for sustainable 00:51:34.321 --> 00:51:42.166 - Joe that kind of placed restrictions on him on what he could use our money for. We, you know, as long 00:51:42.166 --> 00:51:47.934 - as the board says, okay, we can do whatever we want. Is composting at all? 00:51:48.450 --> 00:51:56.325 - Anymore, you know? I don't know. I don't know. I don't have kids in school anymore, but that whole day 00:51:56.325 --> 00:52:04.277 - I stood there and I was like, that goes in there. See, now the other thing that we have to be conscious 00:52:04.277 --> 00:52:11.999 - of in this is the item regulations regarding composting facilities. So we've got 300 square feet. So 00:52:11.999 --> 00:52:15.134 - if you get into too big of an operation, 00:52:15.586 --> 00:52:25.206 - and your compost pile goes beyond 300 square feet, you're now suddenly subject to item regulations. 00:52:25.206 --> 00:52:35.403 - Part of the purpose of this was to keep them, I don't know. I've seen the cafeteria at North High School. 00:52:35.403 --> 00:52:44.542 - I think in weeks they could get over 300 square feet. Yeah, the program I had experiences with 00:52:44.898 --> 00:52:50.743 - We took it off site, collected it and took it. Does Katie do that at Hoosier Hills? Because she does 00:52:50.743 --> 00:52:56.762 - the FFA and they have the greenhouse and all the garbage. No, I don't think she does. A couple of years 00:52:56.762 --> 00:53:02.607 - ago when we were talking about getting something like this going, I reached out to her and said I'll 00:53:02.607 --> 00:53:08.626 - reach out to her again. Maybe she would have the ability to work with the cafeteria staff and say limit 00:53:08.626 --> 00:53:13.950 - what we're going to take so that we get the right stuff and that we're not getting too big. 00:53:14.690 --> 00:53:20.943 - and still give her students some sort of a worthwhile experience. That could be really good, because 00:53:20.943 --> 00:53:27.135 - then you're also educating the teenagers who are in that program. Take that forward. Yeah. And they 00:53:27.135 --> 00:53:33.512 - have a building construction and building class, so they could actually maybe get them to build a box. 00:53:33.512 --> 00:53:39.889 - That's exactly what I was thinking. Because I go to the building church through them to build habitat. 00:53:39.889 --> 00:53:42.366 - They're really, really good, too. Yeah. 00:53:45.826 --> 00:53:52.869 - Okay, we'll put an update on the agenda and kind of review everything that we've talked about and let 00:53:52.869 --> 00:54:00.120 - the board know that we'll probably be coming back at some point when we have a better idea of what we've 00:54:00.120 --> 00:54:07.025 - gotten ourselves into and make sure that we're all on the same page with what direction it's going. 00:54:07.025 --> 00:54:14.482 - Great, thank you for coming and letting us know about that. So next we have one applicant for the community 00:54:14.482 --> 00:54:15.518 - grant program. 00:54:15.906 --> 00:54:25.129 - that we can take a look at. Tom, you want to give an intro to this one? I can. Remember on page 19, 00:54:25.129 --> 00:54:34.722 - the CAC did discuss and review this and score with that rubric that they rescheduled reading last week. 00:54:34.722 --> 00:54:44.222 - But they didn't scramble and get a meeting in so they could do this. Do plan to have a written summary 00:54:44.322 --> 00:54:53.248 - and then with a recommendation for the board for the board package. At the meeting, they all seem to 00:54:53.248 --> 00:55:02.350 - be in agreement with recommending to award the grant to the board. And next, they'll get a summary and 00:55:02.350 --> 00:55:11.188 - that recommendation in writing. Unfortunately, beyond that, I know the person that applied for this 00:55:11.188 --> 00:55:13.662 - grant, so I cannot comment. 00:55:15.682 --> 00:55:23.451 - It was unexpected. I'll say that much. I didn't think about this as a way to reduce waste. I did not, 00:55:23.451 --> 00:55:31.296 - but I absolutely love it. I think it's amazing and kudos for someone for thinking about it. That's all 00:55:31.296 --> 00:55:38.912 - I got. I didn't do the rubric though. I did not either since we only had one. Who's buzzing, Cindy? 00:55:38.912 --> 00:55:39.902 - It's not me. 00:55:48.354 --> 00:55:58.432 - Yeah. Do we have a sense of how much they could purchase with $3,000? They included one sheet that had 00:55:58.432 --> 00:56:08.609 - some products in it. I don't know if I'm trying to get down to it. So there's pricing on the sheet that 00:56:08.609 --> 00:56:16.926 - they included. So if you think $30 a product, and they've let $3,000, so 100 things, 00:56:17.794 --> 00:56:28.196 - Yeah, they said that between 100 and 200 people would be in packets. Because these are the cups, and 00:56:28.196 --> 00:56:39.009 - I don't know what the end of our stock could cost. For the board packet, I will look there. They weren't 00:56:39.009 --> 00:56:47.454 - active, but they did. I got page 23 of the packet. There are two different links. 00:56:47.874 --> 00:57:01.593 - products. I will put those into a web browser and rent off to the board what it looks like. Yeah, it 00:57:01.593 --> 00:57:16.670 - looks like the underwear could be between 10 and 20. Well, yeah, I mean, if you were able to get 100 people to 00:57:17.154 --> 00:57:26.712 - stop using disposable feminine hygiene products. Or even I'm not. Yeah. That's a lot that can be visible. 00:57:26.712 --> 00:57:35.908 - Especially if they were using pens. Especially for schools and stuff like that. Like, even janitorial 00:57:35.908 --> 00:57:38.974 - costs. Like, such an impact. Yep. 00:57:46.818 --> 00:57:55.263 - What is the, can you remind us time of the process? The whole board receives the input from the CAC 00:57:55.263 --> 00:58:03.792 - and then votes on it. Well, yeah, we set the application deadline and then time that so that the CAC 00:58:03.792 --> 00:58:12.406 - would have a chance to review the applications prior to the board meeting and provide recommendations 00:58:12.406 --> 00:58:14.686 - to the board of the award. 00:58:15.042 --> 00:58:22.147 - to any grant applications that were received. So we're aiming to do that. So we're aiming to do that 00:58:22.147 --> 00:58:29.251 - next week at the board meeting so that the CAC said they would have had the written summary of their 00:58:29.251 --> 00:58:36.567 - review and discussion and their recommendation to include in the meeting packet. Are there four or five 00:58:36.567 --> 00:58:44.094 - people on CAC then? And the irony of four men reviewing, yes. I was just about to say this was the female. 00:58:44.290 --> 00:58:59.995 - A format and then there's three on these and we have one on the executive. I did not think it was going 00:58:59.995 --> 00:59:11.774 - to be on their agenda anyway. That's awesome. So any concerns about this? No. 00:59:14.530 --> 00:59:21.896 - had some kind of report back, right? At the end of the grant period, they're supposed to report back 00:59:21.896 --> 00:59:29.263 - on the input. Yes, yes. That'll be interesting. Before we move on, then I will also, one other thing 00:59:29.263 --> 00:59:36.848 - that CAC did discuss, because we appropriated $20,000 for this grant program for this year, and we only 00:59:36.848 --> 00:59:42.974 - received one application that's asking for $3,000, the CAC also is going to suggest 00:59:43.234 --> 00:59:51.011 - then we reopen an application window to see if we can get some additional applications for other projects 00:59:51.011 --> 00:59:58.640 - that might be able to be completed in this year so that we can still utilize some more of that. So that 00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:06.050 - would be another question put out to the board next week if they want to set up another grant window 01:00:06.050 --> 01:00:09.278 - till the end of May or something like that. 01:00:12.194 --> 01:00:24.406 - see if we can get any other interest. All right, any other comments or questions on that? Then we have 01:00:24.406 --> 01:00:37.093 - a review of internal control policies following the accounting entry correction we had to make in January. 01:00:37.093 --> 01:00:41.598 - Yeah, it was I asked about, you know, 01:00:42.050 --> 01:00:53.571 - our internal controls and there was anything in there that might have lead or could be tweaked to prevent 01:00:53.571 --> 01:01:04.874 - the entry errors that resulted in those adjustments needing to be made. And Ms. Owens is with us online 01:01:04.874 --> 01:01:10.526 - here. And we've reviewed that. We also talked about 01:01:10.722 --> 01:01:19.225 - policies and procedures that the consultants that we use help us reconcile and figure out what those 01:01:19.225 --> 01:01:27.811 - adjusting amounts would be. The consensus really was that no, that there's not. It was the way things 01:01:27.811 --> 01:01:36.567 - were input and managed by the previous accounting software and the current accounting software. Theresa 01:01:36.567 --> 01:01:39.934 - can probably explain better than I can, 01:01:40.258 --> 01:01:49.491 - handles this all different and this should not happen in the new software. Theresa, do you have anything 01:01:49.491 --> 01:01:58.549 - to add? No, I just, I mean, I've been monitoring it monthly ever since we got the adjustments. So far, 01:01:58.549 --> 01:02:07.343 - I know it's early in the year. The bank is always balancing. It's just the balance between the fund 01:02:07.343 --> 01:02:08.574 - and the bank. 01:02:08.674 --> 01:02:19.716 - And that's, if anything, it's the payroll claims stuff that would be off, which is adjustable once the 01:02:19.716 --> 01:02:30.758 - items are paid. And then there was consensus that the bulk, if not all, of that adjustment was related 01:02:30.758 --> 01:02:37.726 - to payroll liabilities in a way the previous accounting software 01:02:38.306 --> 01:02:50.561 - either the way that that handled it or the way that they were entered into and handled by staff. Both 01:02:50.561 --> 01:03:02.576 - of which have been correct. Yes. May I jump in? Yes. First of all, I read the whole report that you 01:03:02.576 --> 01:03:07.742 - have here on your internal controls. And I 01:03:08.482 --> 01:03:15.498 - I really appreciate you sharing this with us, you going through the review. And I have to say that I 01:03:15.498 --> 01:03:22.652 - was pleasantly surprised that in such a timely manner, you responded to the request to do this. I just 01:03:22.652 --> 01:03:29.321 - really appreciate it because it wasn't really, it doesn't always happen when you just say, hey, 01:03:29.321 --> 01:03:36.267 - you know what, it would be really good if you like checked into this so that we were sure. And so I 01:03:36.267 --> 01:03:37.726 - really appreciate it 01:03:38.114 --> 01:03:45.643 - I mean, I know it's stuff you already had and you already are doing, but putting it together, pulling 01:03:45.643 --> 01:03:53.024 - together, checking and presenting, I really appreciate it. If I don't do it when I'm thinking about 01:03:53.024 --> 01:04:00.552 - it, you would have been asking six months from now, what happened to this? That's what I'm doing. So, 01:04:00.552 --> 01:04:06.014 - you know, it's notable. Yeah, I think it can make us all rest easier that 01:04:06.210 --> 01:04:14.332 - The problem won't occur again. Yeah, thank you, Twisa, too. Yeah, you're welcome. All right, any other 01:04:14.332 --> 01:04:22.295 - questions or comments about your two internal controls? Do you want, I think it could be just a part 01:04:22.295 --> 01:04:30.417 - of a department report or something, but do you want anything reported to the board about the internal 01:04:30.417 --> 01:04:36.094 - controls? Because I believe the question was raised at a board meeting. 01:04:36.802 --> 01:04:46.908 - I can just put in my department report that staff and executive committee reviewed and determined that 01:04:46.908 --> 01:04:56.720 - internal controls are adequate. That was not the problem. Yeah, it makes sense to make that part of 01:04:56.720 --> 01:05:04.766 - your report. Right. Any other items deemed appropriate for discussion today? Yes. 01:05:05.698 --> 01:05:13.312 - I do, but I will gladly wait, defer if anybody else has anything. Go ahead, Tom. Okay, we've got a few 01:05:13.312 --> 01:05:20.927 - things. I will give you the good news first, and I can't remember off the top of my head. I don't know 01:05:20.927 --> 01:05:28.763 - if Teresa does or not, but apparently, once upon a time, the district participated in some Indiana public 01:05:28.763 --> 01:05:31.646 - risk management thing or whatever, and 01:05:31.746 --> 01:05:43.694 - The state is shutting that down, and they're sending us $92,000. What? Say what? So we paid into something, 01:05:43.694 --> 01:05:54.757 - and they're? We have the email correspondence confirming that we are the correct entity, because it 01:05:54.757 --> 01:06:00.510 - obviously came to Monroe County Solid Waste. Right. 01:06:00.802 --> 01:06:09.562 - Teresa, do you remember what department we were communicating with on that at the state? No, I don't 01:06:09.562 --> 01:06:18.410 - have it right in front of me. No. We have the email correspondence confirming that we are the correct 01:06:18.410 --> 01:06:27.951 - entity. So we filled out their requested paperwork. They are processing our, I guess, refund or reimbursement 01:06:27.951 --> 01:06:30.206 - after they're terming it. 01:06:30.882 --> 01:06:51.489 - And it's for participating in a risk. It was an Indiana public risk management. I can't remember. I 01:06:51.489 --> 01:07:00.350 - like to manage those kinds of risks. Yeah. 01:07:02.530 --> 01:07:13.972 - It's fascinating. That's awesome. Well, yeah, we were pleasantly surprised. I was like I said, that's 01:07:13.972 --> 01:07:25.413 - I made sure that I did. Last thing I wanted to do was get this money and have to turn around and give 01:07:25.413 --> 01:07:31.134 - it to somebody else. Are you sure we're right? Um, 01:07:33.058 --> 01:07:45.310 - That's the right one. Was a member of the Indiana Political Subdivision Risk Management Commission? 01:07:45.310 --> 01:07:58.174 - Yeah, that's it, yeah. Managed by the Indiana Department of Insurance. Yeah, and the letter was from the 01:07:59.586 --> 01:08:08.915 - Deputy General Counselor from the Indiana Department of Insurance, and that is who confirmed that, yes, 01:08:08.915 --> 01:08:17.975 - you are the correct identity. Go ahead. The city and the county governments aren't getting anything. 01:08:17.975 --> 01:08:24.702 - Well, that's your good news. That is good news. And then, just a heads up. 01:08:24.802 --> 01:08:33.040 - getting everything together to send to William Ellis and welcoming him to the board. When I sent him 01:08:33.040 --> 01:08:41.686 - the bylaws, I realized they've not been updated since we changed our name, since electronic participation 01:08:41.686 --> 01:08:50.086 - in meetings was allowed. So next month, we'll have some revised bylaws to consider. Sorry. Next month, 01:08:50.086 --> 01:08:54.654 - like April or? March. It is March. Next month is April. 01:08:54.978 --> 01:09:05.962 - At your next meeting, you will have revised bylaws to consider taking to the full board to three. How 01:09:05.962 --> 01:09:17.054 - about that? So our board bylaws. Set aside some reading time, is what you're saying. It's wide margins 01:09:17.054 --> 01:09:22.654 - and generously spaced, 10 pages. It's not too much. 01:09:23.682 --> 01:09:31.432 - Uh, and then the last thing I had, uh, and one of the other, the other reason that, uh, Kayla is here, 01:09:31.432 --> 01:09:39.182 - um, you know, there have been, been some questions, concerns, you know, expressed about the district's 01:09:39.182 --> 01:09:45.502 - website and meeting the new accessibility, uh, standards. So, um, and, uh, Kayla's, 01:09:46.082 --> 01:09:55.212 - done the bulk of the work going through our website page by page and running an accessibility scan tool 01:09:55.212 --> 01:10:03.991 - on those and making the necessary adjustments. I did have a meeting with our web host and developer 01:10:03.991 --> 01:10:12.945 - that developed our current website and they said we're on the right track with what Kayla's doing and 01:10:12.945 --> 01:10:14.174 - they're still 01:10:14.690 --> 01:10:23.674 - to help in any way that they can, but they're pretty confident that the platform that it's built on, 01:10:23.674 --> 01:10:33.102 - there shouldn't be any issues getting things updated. The big heavy lift is gonna be the meeting minutes, 01:10:33.102 --> 01:10:41.374 - document packets and all of that. But the web developer said that our platform that we're on 01:10:42.466 --> 01:10:53.159 - has a feature for blog posts. And his recommendation was that as we move forward and have those documents 01:10:53.159 --> 01:11:03.347 - that are necessary to meet the new requirements, that since the bulk of those are originally drafted 01:11:03.347 --> 01:11:11.518 - in Word, we just use PDF for combining everything into packets and stuff that we 01:11:11.906 --> 01:11:22.016 - just take those original documents in the Word and copy and paste those into the blog post, and it should 01:11:22.016 --> 01:11:32.411 - be searchable and meet any accessibility requirements at that point. As long as the Word document originally 01:11:32.411 --> 01:11:41.758 - was accessible. Right. Yeah, and I wonder about tables. Yeah, I mean, there's still some caveats. 01:11:42.018 --> 01:11:51.746 - This way you have a lot of reports. In the meeting packet, when you do the claims, those are PDF files 01:11:51.746 --> 01:12:01.190 - produced out of the accounting software that we scan and put them on. So there are still some kinks 01:12:01.190 --> 01:12:05.534 - to work out. But Matt, the website developer, 01:12:06.722 --> 01:12:15.626 - confident that we'd be able to figure these things out. He's done them for other clients and things 01:12:15.626 --> 01:12:24.887 - will be okay. What is the platform? Squarespace. That's Squarespace. Yeah. Yeah. So our website is also 01:12:24.887 --> 01:12:28.894 - hosted by Squarespace. It is now. It is now. 01:12:34.530 --> 01:12:43.792 - Is it Lambert Consulting that's still helping us with? Lambert Consulting is the host. And Matt Aldridge, 01:12:43.792 --> 01:12:52.705 - and I forget, he has a company name, but it's him. He's the one that built the website, developed the 01:12:52.705 --> 01:13:01.618 - website. And he works for Lambert? Our partners with him. I guess when I say web host, that means the 01:13:01.618 --> 01:13:04.414 - website is on Lambert's server. 01:13:05.346 --> 01:13:18.301 - That's who we pay to have space on their server to house a website. And that is the one that built the 01:13:18.301 --> 01:13:31.004 - website. So do you think that we'll meet the deadline in April for the new existing? Yes, sir. Well, 01:13:31.004 --> 01:13:34.526 - in researching all of this, 01:13:34.722 --> 01:13:42.109 - You know, looking at ADA websites and what do we gotta do? What are we gonna do talking with Andrew 01:13:42.109 --> 01:13:49.792 - and Matt yesterday? I stumbled across a fact sheet on the ADA website that had two different compliance 01:13:49.792 --> 01:13:57.401 - dates listed. One of which was for special district governments and that compliance date is April 26th 01:13:57.401 --> 01:14:03.902 - of 2027. Wow, that's a big difference, isn't it? Our attorney is out of town this week. 01:14:05.122 --> 01:14:13.244 - So the question is, how does the ADA define a special district government? And do we fit that definition? 01:14:13.244 --> 01:14:20.217 - Fascinating question. No. I don't have to answer it. But regardless, you're working on it. 01:14:20.217 --> 01:14:28.340 - Are you documenting that you're working on it? Is there any way for somebody if you were? Because there's 01:14:28.340 --> 01:14:35.006 - no accessibility police. So the only problem is if there's somebody who does an audit, 01:14:35.202 --> 01:14:42.478 - as part of like Monroe County or local government finance or something like that or you get sued because 01:14:42.478 --> 01:14:49.547 - somebody's tried to access information and couldn't and usually it's a complaint process and show all 01:14:49.547 --> 01:14:56.615 - you have to do is show that you're working and you are actually doing it. I mean we do have copies of 01:14:56.615 --> 01:15:04.030 - the old pages of the website. Yeah well so we there is some email correspondence between Kayla and I about 01:15:04.514 --> 01:15:12.378 - know, where do we stand on this? How are we managing this? What are we doing? Because some things we 01:15:12.378 --> 01:15:19.464 - just had, we had to basically redesign the page. So we have some email correspondence. And 01:15:19.464 --> 01:15:23.902 - then in Squarespace, you have the currently active page, 01:15:24.002 --> 01:15:31.388 - that may or may not meet the accessibility requirements. And then you have unpublished pages where she's 01:15:31.388 --> 01:15:38.492 - working on redesigning that page to meet the accessibility requirements. And only one of my pages is 01:15:38.492 --> 01:15:45.737 - live. Only one of them is accessible. That's why I think we can easily show that we are working toward 01:15:45.737 --> 01:15:51.646 - meeting these requirements. Awesome. Well, thank you, Caleb, for checking that out. 01:15:51.810 --> 01:16:01.770 - It would have been slightly faster, but we've hit hiccups with the composting and then everything else. 01:16:01.770 --> 01:16:11.826 - And I will say the- Thank you. But Bron, I think you- I do. I am now the catch-all. That's right. County 01:16:11.826 --> 01:16:20.062 - IT referred me to a tool in Google Chrome that does an accessibility scan and rating. 01:16:20.450 --> 01:16:29.867 - The majority of our pages are upper 80s to a little bit 90s on that score. So we're not far. Right now 01:16:29.867 --> 01:16:39.468 - we're not far away from that. I know you sent me the version of the minutes and I said that's the bigger 01:16:39.468 --> 01:16:46.782 - lift is dealing with those scanned PDF documents. But the web pages themselves, 01:16:48.162 --> 01:16:55.576 - are pretty strong, as we said, but we're still doing what we can to increase the scores. Do we have 01:16:55.576 --> 01:17:03.286 - any statement on our website that if any of the linked documents are, if anybody has problems accessing 01:17:03.286 --> 01:17:10.848 - linked documents, please call us or something? You know what, I think that there actually is, because 01:17:10.848 --> 01:17:17.150 - I was looking at that today, and it's maybe not the most obvious thing in the world. 01:17:17.378 --> 01:17:29.728 - But it is there. So, let's see. It says, I can't be reached. WasteReductionDistrict.org, right? No, .com. 01:17:29.728 --> 01:17:42.078 - Oh! So, if you go on the top menu bar under Get Involved, there's a link for meetings and public records. 01:17:45.026 --> 01:17:53.853 - And then at the bottom of that page, the asterisk note for the link under Access Archives. At the end 01:17:53.853 --> 01:18:02.854 - of that, it says, if you are unable to locate a particular record, please contact our office to request 01:18:02.854 --> 01:18:11.681 - the copy. That may not be exactly what you're looking for, but that's what we can. We can change that 01:18:11.681 --> 01:18:13.758 - in a matter of minutes. 01:18:13.890 --> 01:18:22.184 - Yeah, maybe add something about we are currently working on inferring accessibility of our documents. 01:18:22.184 --> 01:18:30.397 - If you are unable to access something, please contact us. Because this is more about timing. We will 01:18:30.397 --> 01:18:38.936 - upload them when they're ready. Yeah, I just read you the last sentence of a larger statement. But yeah, 01:18:38.936 --> 01:18:40.318 - we can certainly 01:18:40.770 --> 01:18:49.065 - add another statement on there about. I would put it on the front page. We can do that. Or down in the, 01:18:49.065 --> 01:18:57.598 - a lot of places do it right here. Your signature, though. And then it's, you know, put whoever to contact, 01:18:57.598 --> 01:19:05.574 - we contact them. You can look at other websites, they're all. Which one of your cell numbers do you 01:19:05.574 --> 01:19:08.126 - want us to look at? 5555. Yeah. 01:19:11.074 --> 01:19:19.708 - Go away. I think the website is, it looks really nice. I've always been impressed with this website. 01:19:19.708 --> 01:19:28.684 - I don't use any assistive technology, so I don't know about that, but it looks great. Well, I know we've 01:19:28.684 --> 01:19:37.317 - had some colors that we've changed and probably some more that need to be changed. In other words, I 01:19:37.317 --> 01:19:39.198 - think the bigger one, 01:19:39.650 --> 01:19:46.953 - The graphics or picture links don't have the description to them so that if a visually impaired whoever's 01:19:46.953 --> 01:19:54.118 - their mouse over it, it doesn't tell you what it is. None of our kids currently have alt tags for them. 01:19:54.118 --> 01:20:01.008 - None of your what? Our images currently on the active website have alt tags except for the one page 01:20:01.008 --> 01:20:08.035 - that I added today. Which one was that? The printable under resources. So the printable you showed me 01:20:08.035 --> 01:20:08.862 - that? Yeah. 01:20:10.306 --> 01:20:18.526 - Yeah, that's the only one that's active at the moment that I've changed. And that one got a 96 on the 01:20:18.526 --> 01:20:27.068 - accessibility score. Do you have an accessibility information section at all, like about not the website, 01:20:27.068 --> 01:20:35.369 - not electronic, but accessibility of your sites and services? Yeah. No. No, we can. I think that would 01:20:35.369 --> 01:20:38.270 - be great to put on your to-do list. 01:20:40.514 --> 01:20:47.577 - I'm going to get kicked out of this place. This catch-off. That's a good point. What if you are somebody 01:20:47.577 --> 01:20:54.303 - with a disability and some folks can drive? And to be fair, we do get calls. Can they get help with 01:20:54.303 --> 01:21:01.568 - putting their stuff in the bins? You're right. I mean, the rural sites are all gravel lots. That's probably 01:21:01.568 --> 01:21:06.142 - an important thing to know for somebody with a physical disability. 01:21:08.674 --> 01:21:17.088 - Yeah, cause I can add it to the site page and I can see that adding it to our Google listing, but that's, 01:21:17.088 --> 01:21:25.422 - that'll be fun. Yeah. Again, I would say check out some other websites to see how it's boarded and stuff 01:21:25.422 --> 01:21:33.677 - because there's some pretty boilerplate language. Um, but yeah, description of what to expect is always 01:21:33.677 --> 01:21:35.582 - lovely and depreciated. 01:21:40.834 --> 01:21:50.089 - can't predict when there's 15 inches of snow in the room yeah and they don't shovel the sidewalk ever 01:21:50.089 --> 01:22:00.070 - that's not me no although you'll be pleased to note that it is rising up the ranks of city council priorities 01:22:00.070 --> 01:22:09.416 - for next funding cycle we do the sidewalk for our site yeah and that's because city ordinance requires 01:22:09.416 --> 01:22:10.686 - us to do that 01:22:11.810 --> 01:22:20.944 - And luckily, the bus now will drop them off pretty much at South Walnut. Very good. Anything else for 01:22:20.944 --> 01:22:30.257 - the good of the community? Yeah. One other thing, Tom, about the board member's signature for the bank. 01:22:30.257 --> 01:22:39.480 - Oh, yeah. So, yes, because we generally have always had the three board officers as signatories on the 01:22:39.480 --> 01:22:40.734 - bank account. 01:22:41.794 --> 01:22:53.509 - and we have a new officer. So I guess now, so to get Jody added to the bank means we all have to do 01:22:53.509 --> 01:23:05.223 - signature cards again. So which is fine. We've done that every time and we can certainly do that or 01:23:05.223 --> 01:23:10.846 - we can take Julie off without doing everybody's 01:23:11.042 --> 01:23:20.321 - Can we do that, Teresa? To get Julie off, do we have to all do it anyway? Maybe we do still have to. 01:23:20.321 --> 01:23:30.152 - I can't remember what we did when I had the... I guess when Teresa were talking about it, we were thinking 01:23:30.152 --> 01:23:31.806 - that we could get 01:23:31.938 --> 01:23:38.746 - Remove Julie without redoing all the signature cards and then did was the executive committee comfortable 01:23:38.746 --> 01:23:45.232 - with two out of three or do you want to go ahead and redo all the signature cards and after you have 01:23:45.232 --> 01:23:49.278 - it. Does that involve going to a bank? No, in the past they've 01:23:49.506 --> 01:23:57.189 - given me all the signature cards and let me track everybody down to get signatures. Yeah, I recall it 01:23:57.189 --> 01:24:04.797 - was fairly painless for us, but it was just right. And it's fine. And actually, why don't we just do 01:24:04.797 --> 01:24:12.556 - it? Because if I tell the bank tomorrow, I could probably have all the cards at the board meeting next 01:24:12.556 --> 01:24:19.486 - Thursday for signatures. Yeah, let's continue the practice of having all three officers on. 01:24:21.282 --> 01:24:30.872 - Because we're going to have a check, one of you will have to sign next week. Shall we order the orange 01:24:30.872 --> 01:24:40.182 - bags? The big ones. It's a big one. All right. We will take care of that. Thank you, Tom, for doing 01:24:40.182 --> 01:24:49.679 - the life work. Well, if everybody comes to the meeting and I have them, it's easy. All right. And our 01:24:49.679 --> 01:24:51.262 - new member, I've 01:24:51.458 --> 01:25:00.759 - Assume can come to our board meeting. He I emailed them, you know, send him, you know, copies of bylaws, 01:25:00.759 --> 01:25:09.706 - internal controls and I mean by some of what our meeting schedule was, and he did not indicate there 01:25:09.706 --> 01:25:18.653 - was any conflict there. I assume they talked about that. What do you think? All right, well, I think 01:25:18.653 --> 01:25:21.310 - that's it. So we can adjourn. 01:25:22.274 --> 01:25:24.286 - Thank you all. Thank you.