WEBVTT 00:00:01.282 --> 00:00:17.936 - committee. Um, so let's, uh, roll. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I'm here. Sorry. Yeah. All our 00:00:17.936 --> 00:00:30.302 - present with two in the room and commissioner material virtual. All right. 00:00:31.106 --> 00:00:39.910 - And of course, we have Tom Glass, an executive director, and we have John Arnold, controller in the 00:00:39.910 --> 00:00:49.067 - room. And do we have any staff online? Looks like. Jacob is a CAC member. Welcome. All righty. Approval 00:00:49.067 --> 00:00:55.934 - of executive committee meeting minutes June 2nd. Any comments or corrections? 00:01:00.066 --> 00:01:09.016 - that we approve them. We've got a motion for approval. Do we have a second? I second. I just have one 00:01:09.016 --> 00:01:17.878 - question on these. Under all other items deemed appropriate, we talked about, we spent a lot of time 00:01:17.878 --> 00:01:27.092 - talking about the compactors. And I think the conclusion that we reached was that staff would get quotes 00:01:27.092 --> 00:01:29.022 - on service agreements 00:01:29.762 --> 00:01:37.358 - that would go with the purchase of new compactors so it can better weigh the costs between leasing and 00:01:37.358 --> 00:01:44.807 - buying. Should that be in the minutes? Is it important? It's just kind of, that's where we stood, so 00:01:44.807 --> 00:01:52.551 - it might be good to add that. I don't know. If that's the committee's call, we can certainly amend those 00:01:52.551 --> 00:01:59.262 - in if that's the wish of the committee. What do y'all think? I'm reading, it's right here. 00:02:00.482 --> 00:02:08.790 - And you're saying that to add more detail? Well, to add what our conclusion was. I see. I think, I mean, 00:02:08.790 --> 00:02:17.335 - that would be fine. Yeah. I mean, I think if it's something that we said and that I do remember. I listened 00:02:17.335 --> 00:02:25.327 - to it. I listened to it again. OK. I'm like, if you remember, he's better than I do. Yeah, I have no 00:02:25.327 --> 00:02:29.758 - problem adding that. So I can send you that text? Sure. 00:02:30.018 --> 00:02:37.908 - Sure, that's fine. So I propose to add at the end of that second paragraph under all other items, there 00:02:37.908 --> 00:02:45.799 - was general consensus that staff would get quotes on service agreements that would go with the purchase 00:02:45.799 --> 00:02:53.537 - of new contactors so that we can better weigh the cost between leasing and buying. So, Tom, does that 00:02:53.537 --> 00:02:55.358 - meet your recollection? 00:02:56.034 --> 00:03:08.187 - I mean, I did listen to it again, because I was like, OK, what was our conclusion? You would want to 00:03:08.187 --> 00:03:20.460 - add that as the last sentence of that term. Yeah. OK, yes. So I'd like to amend my motion. Do we have 00:03:20.460 --> 00:03:24.190 - a second? I second. All right. 00:03:24.514 --> 00:03:35.080 - Mr. Mclasen, could you please call the roll? Wilkes? Yes. Piedmont-Smith? Yes. Madera? Yes. Motion passes 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:45.148 - unanimously. Does Commissioner Madera need to be on camera to vote? Oh, yes. That is in the statute. 00:03:45.148 --> 00:03:52.126 - Commissioner Madera, can you? OK. If you could repeat your vote. Yes. 00:03:52.994 --> 00:04:04.026 - Thank you. Thank you. OK, any comments or questions about the board of director meeting minutes that 00:04:04.026 --> 00:04:15.714 - will be handed on to the full board? So I have to say that I was not there. It says I was there virtually, 00:04:15.714 --> 00:04:22.814 - but I was not. Were you at the previous one virtually? Probably. 00:04:22.978 --> 00:04:33.027 - Leftover text. You might want to double check whether Lee was there. As well. Do you remember if Lee 00:04:33.027 --> 00:04:42.976 - was there virtually? I do not, I will double check. I remember that she was. But I will confirm the 00:04:42.976 --> 00:04:52.926 - attendance before we put the meeting packet together. Awesome. Any other comments on those minutes? 00:04:58.146 --> 00:05:08.580 - Okay. Next item on the agenda is Resolution 20-26-07 to amend the district fee resolution. We keep hearing 00:05:08.580 --> 00:05:18.624 - about this. It's a long process. We first discussed this a couple of meetings ago here. The June board 00:05:18.624 --> 00:05:26.718 - meeting was subsequently canceled. So it was introduced at the July board meeting. 00:05:27.330 --> 00:05:35.260 - You can see behind the memo on page 10 of the packet is the affidavit that it was published in the H.T. 00:05:35.260 --> 00:05:42.960 - on July 29th that meets the unnoticed requirements for public hearing and but assuming no objections 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:51.271 - from the committee would have the public hearing on the agenda for the board meeting prior to the discussion 00:05:51.271 --> 00:05:53.406 - and vote on the resolution. 00:05:54.562 --> 00:06:04.038 - which I believe is exactly we did it the last time we amended the fee resolution. Yep. And the board 00:06:04.038 --> 00:06:14.076 - already talked about what the fee changes were last time. Yes. And then for the record, the public hearing 00:06:14.076 --> 00:06:22.238 - notice has been on the district's website. I think it's been announced since July 9th. 00:06:24.162 --> 00:06:33.141 - really adequately noticed and are well in compliance with the statute for public hearing notice. I think 00:06:33.141 --> 00:06:42.035 - there's one typo in the resolution itself. On the fourth whereas clause, it lists all these resolutions 00:06:42.035 --> 00:06:50.586 - that have been passed to revise the fee resolution. And one of them says resolution 200-15. I think 00:06:50.586 --> 00:06:52.382 - that should be 2000. 00:06:52.578 --> 00:07:07.645 - I think so. That title's been in there a lot. Yeah. Maybe five, six years. Eventually we'll catch these 00:07:07.645 --> 00:07:21.118 - things. We will get that. I will confirm the resolution number and get that corrected. Okay. 00:07:21.282 --> 00:07:29.751 - I think we need to vote on this. Are there any other questions? Comments? So we can move on to Resolution 00:07:29.751 --> 00:07:37.980 - 20-26-08 for a public utility easement. Another one that's been around for a little while. So did have 00:07:37.980 --> 00:07:45.969 - last week did have some email correspondence with parties involved and was advised that the utility 00:07:45.969 --> 00:07:48.446 - service provider has completed 00:07:50.178 --> 00:07:57.600 - necessary easement documents and forward them to the National Guard for review. The hope and anticipation 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:04.811 - is that we will have those finalized documents in our possession prior to the end of the week when the 00:08:04.811 --> 00:08:11.813 - meeting packet would go out. So I think the caveat is in the memo that requests that this be placed 00:08:11.813 --> 00:08:18.814 - on the agenda pending receipt of those documents and if not we'll pull it and shoot for next month. 00:08:21.890 --> 00:08:33.207 - Sounds great. Let's get this wrapped up. So hopefully we'll have that documentation. Any comments or 00:08:33.207 --> 00:08:44.861 - questions on that item? Not for me. All right. Moving right along to resolution 202609, revise internal 00:08:44.861 --> 00:08:46.878 - control policies. 00:08:48.002 --> 00:08:55.695 - Uh, yeah, as indicated in the memo, this is, uh, came up with, um, I get a couple of board meetings 00:08:55.695 --> 00:09:03.542 - ago. Maybe it wasn't July meeting. Yeah. Cause the June meeting was canceled, but we had the, uh, the 00:09:03.542 --> 00:09:11.388 - HHW vendor claim, uh, for 88, $1,000. That was an ACH claim and our internal controls did not address 00:09:11.388 --> 00:09:16.158 - electronic payments in excess of $50,000, but do put a cap on 00:09:16.258 --> 00:09:24.139 - staff's ability to sign checks. At $50,000, staff interpreted that the same limitation would apply to 00:09:24.139 --> 00:09:32.019 - an HCH transaction. So we were asked to revise the internal controls to address that. So we did that. 00:09:32.019 --> 00:09:39.745 - And you can see the bullet points in the memo in addition to that. So in reference to, we do accept 00:09:39.745 --> 00:09:45.694 - money orders for payment, specifically from a lot of the orange bag vendors. 00:09:45.922 --> 00:09:58.054 - I did try to do some clarification on how AP claims on the approved vendor list are processed and approved 00:09:58.054 --> 00:10:09.278 - with respect to Resolution 2022-02. And then also since we were providing a mechanism for staff to 00:10:10.178 --> 00:10:17.708 - execute an ACH payment in excess of $50,000. I thought it might be appropriate to provide a mechanism 00:10:17.708 --> 00:10:25.607 - to provide staff approval to sign a check in excess of $50,000. So that is in there, and we can go through 00:10:25.607 --> 00:10:33.359 - that. Indeed, it does require written approval from the board chair or their designee, but in the event, 00:10:33.359 --> 00:10:39.486 - I know that our bond payment is coming to an end, but in the event that we do have 00:10:40.226 --> 00:10:47.339 - something that needs to get paid in excess of $50,000 and people are out of town or, you know, there's 00:10:47.339 --> 00:10:54.520 - just conflicts and getting it together and we need to get something signed and that we could do written 00:10:54.520 --> 00:11:01.495 - approval via email or something so that the control of the genre owner could sign that check and get 00:11:01.495 --> 00:11:09.022 - payment made if we need to. Did you say this was reviewed by our legal counsel? Yes. Okay. Didn't know that. 00:11:09.186 --> 00:11:16.669 - legal status of an e-mail if that was sufficient. Well I guess we didn't we did not I guess specifically 00:11:16.669 --> 00:11:23.866 - discuss that it just says written approval and what qualifies as written approval was not discussed. 00:11:23.866 --> 00:11:31.277 - I can certainly pose that direct question before we put this to the board. I think we want to make sure 00:11:31.277 --> 00:11:37.406 - that e-mail is acceptable else. Is it writing a letter. Yeah I assume that it is but. 00:11:37.794 --> 00:11:49.221 - assuming is probably not the best approach. If you bear with me a minute, I'm going to... Are you going 00:11:49.221 --> 00:12:00.429 - to email it? No, I'm going to refer to how the claims, the weekly claims not covered under resolution 00:12:00.429 --> 00:12:02.846 - 2022-02 get approved. 00:12:03.810 --> 00:12:13.135 - So it must be approved in writing by the board to pursue. And we have historically done that via email 00:12:13.135 --> 00:12:22.460 - and that's never been called into question. Yeah. Just if you could just make sure we can do that. Any 00:12:22.460 --> 00:12:28.798 - other comments or questions on the revised internal control document? 00:12:33.282 --> 00:12:45.788 - I do not, thank you. Neither. So I have a couple. Yay. Thank you for that. Some people may say boo. 00:12:45.788 --> 00:12:58.669 - No, I like it. So I was just wondering, so in that section under account accounts payable claims where 00:12:58.669 --> 00:13:02.046 - you cite resolution 20202. 00:13:02.242 --> 00:13:10.424 - Can we append that resolution to this document so that somebody wouldn't have to like go to a totally 00:13:10.424 --> 00:13:18.125 - different place to look that up? I don't see why not. I think that would be convenient. I mean, 00:13:18.125 --> 00:13:26.387 - we could just... The first reference to 2020-02 is we could just print the seed index A and attach it. 00:13:26.387 --> 00:13:30.398 - That's great. I think that that would be helpful. 00:13:32.898 --> 00:13:42.194 - And then, let's see, my other question, so if I go down, and this wasn't revised at all, this is just 00:13:42.194 --> 00:13:51.763 - an overall question I have, with the accounts payable claims process, and there are all these, you know, 00:13:51.763 --> 00:13:56.958 - 12 steps or whatever, it talks about the invoices being, 00:13:57.250 --> 00:14:03.506 - in hard copy, right? Because it says, shall be stamped with the date received and forwarded to the office 00:14:03.506 --> 00:14:09.525 - manager or controller for claim preparation. But I imagine you get invoices electronically. So do you 00:14:09.525 --> 00:14:15.486 - print those out, or how does that work? Yeah, we will print those out. And then depending on exactly 00:14:15.486 --> 00:14:21.742 - how they are received, I mean, if they're received in the text of an email, they'll be dated in timestamp 00:14:21.742 --> 00:14:25.342 - when you print that email out. If they're attached as a PDF, 00:14:25.954 --> 00:14:35.751 - we would print the PDF and then put and stamp received on it. Okay. That's a lot of paper. Yeah. Well, 00:14:35.751 --> 00:14:45.263 - is that required for auditing purposes? We have to have all of that copy. There are, I will, I will 00:14:45.263 --> 00:14:50.494 - say that the LGF is starting to make some changes that 00:14:52.226 --> 00:15:01.460 - with things being regularly uploaded into Gateway. It appears they are setting themselves up to move 00:15:01.460 --> 00:15:10.695 - away from having to have those hard copies available for an audit, which might alleviate some of the 00:15:10.695 --> 00:15:19.929 - need to print everything. Yeah, that would be great. Yeah, I'm old enough to remember the promise of 00:15:19.929 --> 00:15:21.758 - a paperless office. 00:15:21.922 --> 00:15:32.414 - I used to do tech support for a hospital chain in Oklahoma City and we had a tech guy that was adamant 00:15:32.414 --> 00:15:43.008 - that the hospitals could all go paperless. That doesn't work that way. So are we okay to pending making 00:15:43.008 --> 00:15:51.870 - sure that emails count as written communication are we okay to send this to the board. 00:15:55.778 --> 00:16:06.531 - as well. Okay, thank you. Then we can move on to the budgets. So you had some relatively good news from 00:16:06.531 --> 00:16:17.801 - the LGF. Yeah, I think this tends to happen about every year. The first go around, I get pretty conservative 00:16:17.801 --> 00:16:25.246 - with my tax estimates and we don't get a windfall, but we generally get 00:16:26.018 --> 00:16:34.409 - wind up with a few thousand dollars more in tax revenue after the DLGF workshop. And then again, that 00:16:34.409 --> 00:16:42.964 - happened again this year. You can see a little over 10,000 of additional tax revenue estimated by DLGF. 00:16:42.964 --> 00:16:51.437 - You can also see then in the tax for the revenue, we also did increase OCC cardboard recycling revenue 00:16:51.437 --> 00:16:54.974 - by 3,000 after we got the rebate for June. 00:16:55.234 --> 00:17:07.874 - The year-to-date figure bumped up significantly when we did that. So based on what was presented in 00:17:07.874 --> 00:17:20.894 - July, we have an additional just over $13,000 in revenue. So that's good news. Conversely, I spent it. 00:17:20.894 --> 00:17:23.422 - Wow, that was fast. 00:17:23.586 --> 00:17:32.973 - So you'll see a little over a $13,000 increase in expenses from what was presented in July and I will 00:17:32.973 --> 00:17:42.635 - say that a good chunk of that actually went into training and education for you know employee continuing 00:17:42.635 --> 00:17:52.574 - ed and training and then about then travel expenses which would be related to getting employees to and from 00:17:52.738 --> 00:18:04.340 - the trainings when we identify them. But I did try to, as you go through the memo, identify where there 00:18:04.340 --> 00:18:15.719 - were differences from what was presented in July 9th. I think the other big difference was in vehicle 00:18:15.719 --> 00:18:22.078 - repair and maintenance. Talked with Van Horn Tinting and 00:18:22.786 --> 00:18:33.030 - We've, if you recall, we had $50,000 appropriated this year to get a new administrative vehicle. And 00:18:33.030 --> 00:18:43.782 - something I was gonna talk about during the other items. We'll go ahead and do it now. So hybrid vehicles 00:18:43.782 --> 00:18:52.606 - that would suit our needs are hard to come by, but we did work with Royal Toyota South 00:18:52.994 --> 00:19:02.646 - Toyota Sienna is about the only hybrid minivan that is available on the market. So we've moved forward 00:19:02.646 --> 00:19:12.204 - with getting one ordered through them. And the $5,000 is to put a wrap on that. So instead of hanging 00:19:12.204 --> 00:19:21.950 - it, we'll put a vehicle wrap on it that will have graphics on our logo, and we haven't designed it yet. 00:19:22.754 --> 00:19:30.917 - kind of talked with them more about what the vehicle and what we'd be looking to doing. And they said 00:19:30.917 --> 00:19:39.001 - that $5,000 would be sufficient to do whatever we wanted to do there. So that's that increase in the 00:19:39.001 --> 00:19:47.404 - budget. Back to the van. So you're going to see at the board meeting a claim for $1,000 to Royal Toyota. 00:19:47.404 --> 00:19:51.486 - That is the deposit on the vehicle that is coming. 00:19:51.618 --> 00:20:00.282 - They're not on the lot. They're not on the lots anywhere. They are sold before they get to the lot. 00:20:00.282 --> 00:20:09.120 - So we have one order. It's a hybrid. It's a hybrid. And probably looking at end of October, beginning 00:20:09.120 --> 00:20:17.438 - of November on delivery on that. Yeah. That seems to be a thing. I recently looked at Toyota's. 00:20:17.602 --> 00:20:25.769 - and specifically Toyota's are not. They don't have a large inventory. They are in demand. They're sold 00:20:25.769 --> 00:20:33.778 - before they get to the lot. Even things like the hybrid Camry's in the spot. They've got to wait six 00:20:33.778 --> 00:20:39.646 - weeks to get delivery. Popular cars. Yeah. That's what I drive, so. Yeah. 00:20:41.026 --> 00:20:48.539 - But anyway, I think those are the, I mean, there's some other smaller ones, but the big, the training 00:20:48.539 --> 00:20:56.125 - and education and vehicle repair and maintenance are the two big increases. And fuel, right? Fuel went 00:20:56.125 --> 00:21:03.785 - up like a thousand, and that was more of a cushion than a necessity. We already had that bumped up some 00:21:03.785 --> 00:21:10.046 - in the July, because I think we all know that gas costs a little more. It's a yo-yo. 00:21:10.274 --> 00:21:23.056 - All right. Thank you for the memo which tells us what changed. It's a lot and I appreciate it. I guess, 00:21:23.056 --> 00:21:35.593 - yeah, we don't so something left to decrease. I got to look at the math on that because we are in the 00:21:35.593 --> 00:21:38.174 - capital. We also had 00:21:38.530 --> 00:21:47.506 - $12,000 increase from July. But then that's, that's for, we already had a big bump there. We talked 00:21:47.506 --> 00:21:56.751 - about purchasing the new roll off containers. So that, to check the math on that, but everything seems 00:21:56.751 --> 00:22:05.278 - to balance. But that's. Yeah, that's $12,000. So it must have been a decrease somewhere. Yeah. 00:22:06.978 --> 00:22:14.816 - So that, but that's, that would, you know, that would be one more roll off box than we were planning 00:22:14.816 --> 00:22:22.654 - on buying, compact or buy. Okay. Well, if you can find that decrease and add it to the memo from the 00:22:22.654 --> 00:22:30.569 - board, that'd be good. Yeah. It may be multiple decreases of a thousand or 2000 that added up to that 00:22:30.569 --> 00:22:31.966 - difference. Okay. 00:22:37.794 --> 00:22:47.462 - questions or comments on the revised budget proposal. That's the operating operating. Yeah, so then 00:22:47.462 --> 00:22:57.808 - that's resolution 2026-10 and you have that resolution and all the supporting documentation in the packet. 00:22:57.808 --> 00:23:04.382 - Then 2026-11 is the debt service budget for the final payment. Yes. 00:23:07.682 --> 00:23:14.375 - against but we'll pop apple juice because we can't pop champagne in the government. But then I and I 00:23:14.375 --> 00:23:21.200 - just on page 50 in the packet is kind of the summary of the debt service budget proposal. I just I did 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:27.959 - want to confirm that that kind of makes sense to everybody. We've kind of been talking about this the 00:23:27.959 --> 00:23:32.862 - last couple of budget cycles but we're going to have to be loaning money. 00:23:32.962 --> 00:23:41.891 - because of the way the tax disbursements come versus when the payments are made. So based on that workshop 00:23:41.891 --> 00:23:50.403 - at DLGF we're looking at an $89,360 balance on December 31st after we pay back the existing temporary 00:23:50.403 --> 00:23:59.582 - loan. So that means we'll have to in January loan $47,875 to the debt service fund for that February payment. 00:24:01.122 --> 00:24:09.083 - which should also leave the $750 for the administrative fee. Not sure when that will come due. They 00:24:09.083 --> 00:24:17.043 - usually do that in the fall. That's when we have two payments a year. So it wouldn't surprise me to 00:24:17.043 --> 00:24:25.481 - see it come in March, April timeframe, because we've made the last payment. And everybody will be closing 00:24:25.481 --> 00:24:30.974 - out the bond on their books. But that loan should cover all of that. 00:24:31.810 --> 00:24:40.077 - Based on calculations from DLGF, the tax disbursements in June and December, we'll balance the fund. 00:24:40.077 --> 00:24:48.917 - What is the $24,000 loan repayment account? We had to loan $24,000 to make the payment, the August payment. 00:24:48.917 --> 00:24:57.430 - For this year? Yeah, for the payment that was approved at the last board meeting. Because revenue comes 00:24:57.430 --> 00:24:58.494 - in December. 00:25:00.002 --> 00:25:07.928 - Okay, so that was the same reasons. Right. Yeah, that's what I think we were going back a couple of 00:25:07.928 --> 00:25:15.933 - budget cycles. We said that for the last three, maybe four payments, the operating fund was going to 00:25:15.933 --> 00:25:24.097 - have to loan money to the debt service fund because the tax disbursements, in essence, are in arrears. 00:25:24.097 --> 00:25:29.566 - As long as it's got enough money to make the loan, then time's fine. 00:25:30.946 --> 00:25:40.380 - Well, the payment will be made regardless of how much the tax disbursement is. And we will figure out 00:25:40.380 --> 00:25:49.630 - how to reconcile any discrepancies when all is said and done. We will not default on final payment. 00:25:56.194 --> 00:26:02.880 - And then the QCAT fund resolution 2026-12 obviously substantial decrease in the balance of that because 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:09.373 - we just appropriated money out of it for a roof. But and I did mention at the July board meeting and 00:26:09.373 --> 00:26:15.930 - it doesn't have to be right now but you know that fund balance is about a thousand and thirty dollars 00:26:15.930 --> 00:26:22.487 - by the end of the year. That's that is the current fund balance but that's what we base budget off of 00:26:22.487 --> 00:26:24.030 - by the end of the year. 00:26:24.226 --> 00:26:33.015 - it may or may not be a little more, I don't know if we'll get any interest on it with that level of 00:26:33.015 --> 00:26:42.068 - balance or not. But so I think, but I think given that the board needs to consider, do we want to make 00:26:42.068 --> 00:26:50.945 - an attempt to refund that capital fund or do we want to close that out and revert that money back to 00:26:50.945 --> 00:26:53.758 - the cash reserves? The statute, 00:26:54.178 --> 00:27:02.785 - You know, we'll see what happens with revenues, with all the changes to the tax laws and stuff. The 00:27:02.785 --> 00:27:11.564 - statute does allow for units to budget. It's maybe 3%, 5% max of the budget can be appropriated to be 00:27:11.564 --> 00:27:20.170 - transferred to a cumulative capital fund on a manual basis. What's the benefit of doing that? Well, 00:27:20.170 --> 00:27:22.494 - since it's hard to budget, 00:27:23.202 --> 00:27:30.363 - million dollars in one year if you have a project coming up and you want to build a fund so that when 00:27:30.363 --> 00:27:37.454 - you're ready to purchase land or build a building you have that cumulative capital fund that you can 00:27:37.454 --> 00:27:44.475 - do that with. But the interest earned is not more in a QCAT fund than in our operating fund, right? 00:27:44.475 --> 00:27:50.302 - Correct. Now there I would need to check there might be investment options similar 00:27:50.562 --> 00:27:58.857 - to operating cash reserves that we could do with Kim Cat Fund which might present opportunities for 00:27:58.857 --> 00:28:07.484 - a higher interest yield. But I would want to check the statutes to see what options and or limits there 00:28:07.484 --> 00:28:13.374 - are on what can be done investment-wise with cumulative capital funds. 00:28:24.514 --> 00:28:31.832 - At what point should we make that decision? I mean, if we want to replenish some of the QMCAF fund, 00:28:31.832 --> 00:28:39.297 - we could do that with the 27 budget, right? Well, we could. I'd hate to reinvent the wheel with this. 00:28:39.297 --> 00:28:46.981 - Plus, what you have... It would be cash balance that we... Well, right. I think we would have the option 00:28:46.981 --> 00:28:51.518 - at the end of the year if we have unspent appropriated funds. 00:28:52.002 --> 00:28:59.068 - that we could transfer those to the cumulative capital fund. I just went by what I was referring to 00:28:59.068 --> 00:29:06.416 - earlier is that you have the ability to actually build that into your budget as well which is something 00:29:06.416 --> 00:29:13.694 - for you know for the 20-28 budget if that's what the board wishes to do you know that we could attempt 00:29:13.694 --> 00:29:20.830 - to appropriate funds specific for a transfer to the cumulative capital fund so that we don't have to 00:29:22.114 --> 00:29:31.881 - worry about trying to have unspent appropriations at the end of the year that could be transferred. 00:29:31.881 --> 00:29:41.941 - We could just build it into the budget if the revenues are there to support such an appropriation. But 00:29:41.941 --> 00:29:51.806 - we don't have to budget it. No. So it could. So like for 26 we didn't budget any transfer obviously. 00:29:51.906 --> 00:29:59.052 - At the end of this year, if the board decides, we don't want to mess with it, let's just close the CUME-CAT 00:29:59.052 --> 00:30:05.934 - fund, can we do that at the end of this year? I believe so. Okay. So we should, in the next few months, 00:30:05.934 --> 00:30:12.551 - we should. Right, yeah, like I said, it's not a decision that has to be made at the August meeting, 00:30:12.551 --> 00:30:19.102 - you know, but it's, you know, $1,000, that's capitalized, that's not going to do anything for you. 00:30:19.682 --> 00:30:32.047 - So I think it just makes sense to either make an attempt to replenish the fund or close it down. I think 00:30:32.047 --> 00:30:44.177 - having a QMCAT fund is a good idea simply because it it just sets aside mentally money and just having 00:30:44.177 --> 00:30:47.710 - it randomly there rather than 00:30:48.354 --> 00:30:56.346 - identifying kind of a strategic purpose. And I realize the purpose is for things like a new roof and 00:30:56.346 --> 00:31:03.942 - things that come up, but we had been talking about the, for instance, the leasing versus buying 00:31:03.942 --> 00:31:12.013 - of containers. If we looked at a cycle for replacement, then we could determine how much we wanted to 00:31:12.013 --> 00:31:16.286 - keep putting into. Yeah, now there are, I don't know, 00:31:17.794 --> 00:31:24.847 - I would need to look at the statute. There are restrictions on what QCAP funds can be used for. I mean 00:31:24.847 --> 00:31:31.215 - land and buildings I know for sure. Equipment I'm not so sure. But I'm not saying you can't. 00:31:31.215 --> 00:31:38.132 - I'm just right. I'm not positive on that one. And that's something that I should I will research and 00:31:38.132 --> 00:31:45.253 - then the board's ready to have that discussion. We will present that information that you know you know 00:31:45.253 --> 00:31:47.102 - here are the allowed uses. 00:31:47.234 --> 00:31:55.204 - for Hume Cap funds and you know does it make sense to replenish it or not. I will I will also add that 00:31:55.204 --> 00:32:03.019 - the current Hume Cap fund was established under the previous director. The district had a cumulative 00:32:03.019 --> 00:32:10.912 - capital fund way back when when it first started and that got closed out. And I don't recall what all 00:32:10.912 --> 00:32:16.638 - Larry had to but there were some steps involved to reestablish that fund. 00:32:16.738 --> 00:32:33.036 - It wasn't just going to Gateway and say, okay, we're now going to have a QCAT fund and here's the balance. 00:32:33.036 --> 00:32:45.374 - Any questions about any of the three funds and the proposed budgets? I wanted to 00:32:45.506 --> 00:32:56.469 - add a piece of information that I got by being on the fiscal committee of the city of Bloomington Common 00:32:56.469 --> 00:33:07.431 - Council. So we have engaged Reedy Financial for many months to make sense of SEA 1 and House Bill, what? 00:33:07.431 --> 00:33:15.262 - 2110 or whatever. 1210. 1210, thank you. And so they've done some analysis 00:33:15.458 --> 00:33:28.153 - of the impacts expected from the changes to the property taxes. And I emailed you this a little while 00:33:28.153 --> 00:33:41.096 - ago. And so they estimate in 2029 when all of the changes have gone into effect, property tax levy loss 00:33:41.096 --> 00:33:44.830 - of $148,970 for the district. 00:33:45.250 --> 00:34:00.616 - For 2029? 29. How much? So almost $150,000. $149,970. And it wasn't the additional $19,000 and something. 00:34:00.616 --> 00:34:13.662 - Wasn't the total impact $168,000? Yes. Let's see. Right. It's the debt capacity that also 00:34:14.850 --> 00:34:22.679 - went down. Oh, okay. That was specific to destiny. So yeah, but and that's, yeah, I did see that and 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:30.586 - I appreciate that. Although I was a little confused at first because it started off all talking about 00:34:30.586 --> 00:34:38.492 - lit. Yeah, I know. But the spreadsheet had a lot. But 150,000 is in line with, you know, I guess what 00:34:38.492 --> 00:34:41.438 - I would have been projecting based on 00:34:41.570 --> 00:34:51.169 - the increase to the cap impact for 26, and then the additional, what it went up for 27, looking into 00:34:51.169 --> 00:35:00.863 - 28 or 29, getting into that $150,000 range, that is in line. And so, you know, the true fiscal impact 00:35:00.863 --> 00:35:10.462 - of it hinges on the growth quotient. Yeah. Yeah, there are assumptions that went into this estimate. 00:35:10.690 --> 00:35:21.018 - 4%. Right. And that's, you know, for 27, and I'm curious to see if this is addressed in the next legislative 00:35:21.018 --> 00:35:30.682 - session, because for 27, we got a 6% growth quotient, because I don't know if it was intentional, but 00:35:30.682 --> 00:35:40.062 - the growth quotient cap that expired in 26 was not extended when they did Senate Enrollment Act 1. 00:35:41.378 --> 00:35:49.847 - So, you know, are we going to continue to get, not that it will be, you know, millions and millions 00:35:49.847 --> 00:35:58.570 - of dollars, but, you know, an unlimited growth budget? Will it be a true reflection of what the actual 00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:07.292 - assessed growth is? Or are they going to implement another cap? When did they start implementing caps? 00:36:07.292 --> 00:36:08.478 - I don't know. 00:36:11.458 --> 00:36:20.750 - It's been it's been on the books since I became director 10 years ago. So. Something I've always had 00:36:20.750 --> 00:36:30.134 - to deal with as director. And this year there were no camps. And so it's purely based on the. I guess 00:36:30.134 --> 00:36:40.254 - that depends on whose index you want to look at. I think there were some indexes that were pushing 9 percent. 00:36:41.922 --> 00:36:50.023 - that I saw, but I don't know what, those necessarily weren't the state's numbers. But yeah, so that's, 00:36:50.023 --> 00:36:57.966 - you know, it was nice to get that this year, obviously, particularly with the additional cap impact, 00:36:57.966 --> 00:37:05.438 - but I'm not going to hold my breath that we're going to be in the same boat next budget cycle. 00:37:06.882 --> 00:37:15.821 - It may have just been an oversight with all the other changes happening, but oops, we forgot to extend 00:37:15.821 --> 00:37:24.674 - the cat. And so, yeah, and so, you know, all that's going to play into the, you know, the true fiscal 00:37:24.674 --> 00:37:29.534 - impact of that cat hit going up to 150, $160,000. Yeah. 00:37:32.962 --> 00:37:42.065 - least with this unit of government, we don't have to deal with all of the changes. You're right. I'm 00:37:42.065 --> 00:37:51.439 - very thankful that I think that regardless of what happens, we're in a strong enough financial position 00:37:51.439 --> 00:38:01.534 - with cash reserves that we don't have to have a knee-jerk reaction to a substantial. Obviously, we can't absorb 00:38:01.986 --> 00:38:12.213 - $150,000 annual hit forever. But we don't have to turn right around and stop the program because we 00:38:12.213 --> 00:38:22.748 - lost $150,000. We have enough money to have time to plan for how to best address this and minimize the 00:38:22.748 --> 00:38:25.918 - impact on the residents. Yeah. 00:38:30.242 --> 00:38:44.468 - Other questions or comments on the budget proposals? So many, but none that can be answered. Same here. 00:38:44.468 --> 00:38:58.284 - I may be absent for the board meeting then. Are your comments? Wise choice. 100 gallons. Existential 00:38:58.284 --> 00:39:00.062 - kind of. OK. 00:39:00.226 --> 00:39:08.355 - I have plenty of questions about the city of Bloomington budget. This one I'm feeling pretty good about. 00:39:08.355 --> 00:39:16.483 - Yeah. And I will also throw out, and I don't know if Kate or Jodi can or want to weigh in, our operating 00:39:16.483 --> 00:39:24.380 - budget does have a 3.5% cost of living increase in it. That is based on the wage earner index that we 00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:26.238 - have historically used. 00:39:26.498 --> 00:39:34.983 - The last I got from the county council office, which was probably at least a month ago at this point, 00:39:34.983 --> 00:39:43.385 - was that the county was not looking at any cost of living increase. And I don't know where that sits 00:39:43.385 --> 00:39:50.622 - now. I know that if our COLA is significantly different than the counties, that raises 00:39:50.722 --> 00:40:00.190 - when we go before the county council for the adoption, it can sometimes raise questions with the county 00:40:00.190 --> 00:40:09.840 - representatives on our board. So it's in there. And I think it's justified. I mean, the budget in essence 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:18.398 - is balanced. I think we're at an $8 deficit. It's justified based on how we have historically 00:40:18.914 --> 00:40:29.096 - determined what that would be. But obviously, the board at the August meeting, and for that matter, 00:40:29.096 --> 00:40:39.584 - the county council at the adoption hearing do have the authority to change that. What's the historical 00:40:39.584 --> 00:40:47.934 - trend? What have you done in the past? And specifically, the reason I'm asking is 00:40:48.194 --> 00:40:57.323 - the county gave a huge COLA just a couple of years ago. Well, yeah. I think the year before that, that 00:40:57.323 --> 00:41:06.186 - was all COVID impact stuff, we gave a huge COLA. That came up during the adoption hearings and over 00:41:06.186 --> 00:41:15.138 - the two or three-year span through and coming out of COVID, the COLA is balanced out between what we 00:41:15.138 --> 00:41:17.886 - gave and what the county gave. 00:41:18.210 --> 00:41:27.070 - So it's not that they're the same every year. But, you know, they're generally, I guess, other than 00:41:27.070 --> 00:41:36.106 - the COVID period, you know, we're generally pretty close. Well, we alternate years between the dollar 00:41:36.106 --> 00:41:44.966 - amount and the percentage. Yeah, across the board percentage and then a flat dollar amount based on 00:41:44.966 --> 00:41:47.358 - medium wages. Do you know, 00:41:48.450 --> 00:41:59.734 - where the negotiation stand with. Well, it's, um, so it's not really a negotiation. It's something that, 00:41:59.734 --> 00:42:10.695 - yeah, I don't. Um, I know that the recommendation from the commissioners was for 6% and the directive 00:42:10.695 --> 00:42:16.606 - from council president was zero. It will be somewhere. 00:42:17.058 --> 00:42:25.282 - In between. In between zero and six. OK. So yeah, and that's one of the other, I do the best I can to 00:42:25.282 --> 00:42:33.346 - take our index and what information that I have from the county and try to put us there where we're 00:42:33.346 --> 00:42:41.490 - going to be on par. But we do think so much earlier than the county that it's hard to do that. And I 00:42:41.490 --> 00:42:45.118 - think other than those two years with COVID, 00:42:45.442 --> 00:42:55.795 - We've always managed to be pretty close, so. I think that we might have a better idea. Well, 00:42:55.795 --> 00:43:07.373 - I don't know. We have some work we have to do around our own budgeting. But I think the idea is to keep 00:43:07.373 --> 00:43:15.166 - all the calculations at zero and see what happens and what we can do. 00:43:16.130 --> 00:43:27.236 - Well, and obviously the bottom line for all of us is, you know, the budget can absorb what it can absorb. 00:43:27.236 --> 00:43:38.132 - You have to keep things running and those expenses have to be assured. Well, I mean, it's also a matter 00:43:38.132 --> 00:43:41.694 - of priorities, right? If you say, 00:43:43.778 --> 00:43:52.131 - priority is going to be to make sure that our employees don't, in the economic context, make less next 00:43:52.131 --> 00:44:00.241 - year than they do this year. That could be put in like the base, the minimum, and then you could go 00:44:00.241 --> 00:44:08.838 - from there and say, okay, well, this means we have to cut this or cut that. Non-personal. I'm just saying 00:44:08.838 --> 00:44:10.622 - it's a philosophical. 00:44:11.042 --> 00:44:21.204 - And I will say too, and I think that, you know, you can see when you look at the budget comparison sheets, 00:44:21.204 --> 00:44:31.176 - on the expense side in particular, that, you know, when we, you know, going back to last year, you know, 00:44:31.176 --> 00:44:40.958 - I was pushing on staff, you know, not knowing, I did not know that the impact, the circuit breaker cap 00:44:42.018 --> 00:44:48.908 - didn't get continued. I was on then. We're going to have to find ways to cut money. You know, we've 00:44:48.908 --> 00:44:55.936 - got to be doing and I think that you can see when you look at that summary sheet and what some of our 00:44:55.936 --> 00:45:03.102 - year-to-date expenses are and and you know there's there's like a hauling line came down significantly. 00:45:03.102 --> 00:45:10.750 - You know so so we already had already had staff looking at ways you know that we could reduce expenses without 00:45:11.266 --> 00:45:21.810 - compromising services and we've done some of that and that's helped us be in a position to be able to 00:45:21.810 --> 00:45:32.457 - put that COLA increase in there for the employees. Yeah. We have that same discussion more broadly for 00:45:32.457 --> 00:45:40.830 - the whole county and one thing that we bump up against is there aren't very many 00:45:41.058 --> 00:45:51.257 - things that the county does that aren't statutorily required. We just don't really have a lot of, 00:45:51.257 --> 00:46:01.039 - I mean, we have some things like, you know, we'll bond for some things that could be put off. 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:10.718 - But a lot, you know, we're trying to be very judicious about those choices and have been for 00:46:11.458 --> 00:46:20.232 - a little while, um, seeing this coming change on how we're doing things. Yeah, you're right. 00:46:20.232 --> 00:46:30.139 - You're right. And one thing that, that we've also talked about is it was several years ago, you probably 00:46:30.139 --> 00:46:39.762 - know the county did a lot of changing people from 40 hours to 35 hours work week, just to keep people 00:46:39.762 --> 00:46:40.894 - rather than 00:46:42.274 --> 00:46:53.000 - And then they did that without changing the wages. Correct. Yes. No, without changing the wages. Yeah. 00:46:53.000 --> 00:47:03.413 - So anyway, lots of variables. Yeah. Yeah. And there's certainly been, over the years, some creative 00:47:03.413 --> 00:47:10.078 - ways to deal with that and manage how it impacts the employees. 00:47:10.210 --> 00:47:18.967 - To put that out there, and I don't know if it'll become an issue at our board meeting, and I don't know 00:47:18.967 --> 00:47:27.388 - if it'll become a question or an issue with the council adoption hearings, but. What can the county 00:47:27.388 --> 00:47:36.313 - council do as far as, can they cut the budget when it comes to them for a specific reason or for specific 00:47:36.313 --> 00:47:39.934 - categories? Yeah. I don't have any inkling 00:47:40.066 --> 00:47:53.466 - that that would be a red flag. I really don't. But I'm just one person. I think 3.5 is justifiable. 00:47:53.466 --> 00:48:07.134 - Like I said, we're using the same CPIW wager or index that we've always used. And that's where it is. 00:48:07.874 --> 00:48:16.948 - It was like 3.4, so I just made it 3.5. That was easier to calculate. Oh, wow. But anyway, just to make 00:48:16.948 --> 00:48:25.760 - people aware that in case there are questions or issues that arise from that being in there based on 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:33.438 - what the county decides that it can, wants to do, or not do. Yeah, that's a good point. 00:48:37.410 --> 00:48:48.764 - Any other comments or questions about the budget proposals? No, I think those issues are all really 00:48:48.764 --> 00:49:00.345 - good to discuss. I appreciate that. Thank you. Well, then we can move along to all other items deemed 00:49:00.345 --> 00:49:06.590 - appropriate. So who has something? Yes, Mr. McClassen. 00:49:06.722 --> 00:49:16.042 - A couple things. Any questions about the van that we're looking at purchasing? I've already put that 00:49:16.042 --> 00:49:25.362 - one out there. I have to say I'm a big fan of the idea. Fan of what? Of a hybrid. Yes, I'm a big fan 00:49:25.362 --> 00:49:36.158 - of that idea of doing the hybrid. If we're going to reduce waste, we might as well start with the vehicles we drive. 00:49:38.914 --> 00:49:49.390 - I agree that that's why we're doing it. I've never bought a car under this process before. I don't like 00:49:49.390 --> 00:49:59.865 - not going on a lot in test driving, but oh well. Which vehicle does that replace? It's really not going 00:49:59.865 --> 00:50:08.830 - to replace anything immediately. It ultimately is going to replace the butterfly mobile. 00:50:08.994 --> 00:50:16.951 - um but um uh you know it's it's the thing is it's 22 years old i know we've talked like many years about 00:50:16.951 --> 00:50:24.605 - we talked a few years ago because we had a bad run we had a bad run a few years ago with maintenance 00:50:24.605 --> 00:50:32.184 - costs just because you know i don't know if it was because it hit that 20 year mark or whatever but 00:50:32.184 --> 00:50:38.398 - a bunch of things went wrong and we fixed those and then quit having problems and 00:50:38.594 --> 00:50:45.406 - So, but it also gives us, you know, a vehicle that, you know, it won't be here in time, unfortunately. 00:50:45.406 --> 00:50:52.416 - But, you know, like we have the Association of Solid Waste District Conference coming up at the beginning 00:50:52.416 --> 00:50:59.029 - of October. We generally send four or five people to that. You know, so instead of everybody taking 00:50:59.029 --> 00:51:06.238 - their own car or taking one of the trucks that we have that has a king cab that gets 10 miles to the gallon, 00:51:06.370 --> 00:51:18.399 - or whatever it is. This gives us a more economical vehicle to take. It will also allow for outreach 00:51:18.399 --> 00:51:30.549 - opportunities that need a bigger display than that element. It's going to have more cargo space. But 00:51:30.549 --> 00:51:34.398 - I think the short answer is no. 00:51:35.330 --> 00:51:45.729 - declare a vehicle surplus property right away. We'll continue to run that thing till the wheels fall 00:51:45.729 --> 00:51:56.334 - off of it. So is the wrap for the truck or for the van going to be as pretty as the butterfly? I don't 00:51:56.334 --> 00:52:00.350 - know if it's going to be as elaborate. 00:52:00.834 --> 00:52:12.303 - but it'll be more our branding. Yeah, our logo will definitely be in there and be a color scheme that 00:52:12.303 --> 00:52:24.222 - matches the colors that are in our logo. We certainly have a website listed on there, some general ideas. 00:52:25.090 --> 00:52:32.825 - If Van Horn is who we choose to guide, that was one I knew that did it. So I called them just to say, 00:52:32.825 --> 00:52:40.560 - hey, what kind of ballpark, what kind of price do I need to budget to make this happen? But they said 00:52:40.560 --> 00:52:48.674 - that they could. And I assume other companies that do this, well, they have graphic designers. And they'll 00:52:48.674 --> 00:52:53.982 - take our ideas and throw some options at us. Cool. And then the roof. 00:52:54.370 --> 00:53:04.494 - Starts next week. Replacement of the administrative roof. And then the last thing is the September board 00:53:04.494 --> 00:53:14.328 - meeting. We have to do this every year because it conflicts with council budget work session. I think 00:53:14.328 --> 00:53:23.198 - the past two, maybe three years, we've actually just canceled it. We kind of make an effort 00:53:24.226 --> 00:53:31.757 - get business done at the August meeting so that there's nothing pressing that we have to address right 00:53:31.757 --> 00:53:39.143 - away. What happens with the utility easement or they've delayed this long if we got an extra month I 00:53:39.143 --> 00:53:46.528 - don't know. But at any rate you know we do need to think about and you know do we want to do we want 00:53:46.528 --> 00:53:53.182 - to. Is there a need to make an attempt to have a September board meeting and if so we will 00:53:53.794 --> 00:54:01.844 - At the very least have to change locations if not find another date and time. I do know that Councilor 00:54:01.844 --> 00:54:10.285 - Wilk's schedule based on council meetings and budget work sessions is going to be limited. But the district 00:54:10.285 --> 00:54:18.335 - office is always available and we would have the ability to do quite as good as tech services does but 00:54:18.335 --> 00:54:23.102 - we would have the ability to do virtual meetings from there. 00:54:28.290 --> 00:54:35.794 - this room would work for the board, right? Unless for some reason the public wants to show up. They 00:54:35.794 --> 00:54:43.298 - can still come in here. It's cozy. I mean, given how many weeks we have, it's probably. Yeah, but I 00:54:43.298 --> 00:54:50.802 - just wanted to put that out there. And it's not necessarily something that has to be decided at the 00:54:50.802 --> 00:54:57.630 - board meeting, but I think it needs to be put out there and you can communicate via email. 00:54:58.978 --> 00:55:07.816 - you know, as we approach September and decide if there's a need to meet. Yeah, I mean, it all depends 00:55:07.816 --> 00:55:16.481 - on whether we have agenda items, whether any of them are urgent. There will always be agenda items. 00:55:16.481 --> 00:55:25.493 - It's just a matter of how fast do they need to be added. All right. That was it? Does anybody else have 00:55:25.493 --> 00:55:27.486 - any items to bring up? 00:55:31.554 --> 00:55:39.157 - So I did want to follow up on that compactor rental versus lease question. Has Joey had a chance to 00:55:39.157 --> 00:55:46.837 - get any additional information? I know that he's requested it. He hasn't told me that he's requested 00:55:46.837 --> 00:55:54.592 - purchase pricing and asked about service agreement options. I don't know what information he's gotten 00:55:54.592 --> 00:55:58.622 - back from people yet. OK. Even he was out last week. 00:56:00.546 --> 00:56:10.443 - I know he was reaching out to manufacturers, potential vendors for the equipment well before that. And 00:56:10.443 --> 00:56:20.341 - we'll follow up with that. So we may want to have an executive committee meeting even if we don't have 00:56:20.341 --> 00:56:30.238 - a board meeting in September or late August. Because I think we do want to make some progress on that. 00:56:30.530 --> 00:56:40.506 - Yeah, and I just in that that brought to mind one other other item that. But. Chair Bruce Piedmont Smith 00:56:40.506 --> 00:56:50.958 - and I have had some discussions on. We're going to have to discuss the district's health insurance offerings. 00:56:50.958 --> 00:56:58.654 - I checked with legal counsel. There was a new. There was a new executive session 00:57:00.642 --> 00:57:08.831 - That was allowed for, but it was a, I forget the exact wording was you could have an executive session 00:57:08.831 --> 00:57:17.019 - regarding special exceptions to health insurance. The term that the issue that we have or attorney did 00:57:17.019 --> 00:57:25.208 - not believe that the special exception definition or lack thereof that there is so. Special exception. 00:57:25.208 --> 00:57:29.342 - I told him that he couldn't find it. Good question. 00:57:30.082 --> 00:57:41.505 - There's lots of special exceptions for zoning. Yeah. So. Well, I guess it's not talking about any particular 00:57:41.505 --> 00:57:51.985 - personnel, right? No, it's not specific. It's not specific to any one individual. It has to do with 00:57:51.985 --> 00:57:57.854 - eligibility for coverage. And a change that we're being 00:57:58.562 --> 00:58:10.673 - based with the insurance carriers. It's going to impact coverages that we can offer. I see. And that 00:58:10.673 --> 00:58:22.904 - is going to have to be done outside of the executive session, unfortunately. Yeah. At what point will 00:58:22.904 --> 00:58:26.142 - we have the information on 00:58:27.394 --> 00:58:40.629 - how and whether we can still offer coverage to employees that work less than 30 hours. You have it already. 00:58:40.629 --> 00:58:52.638 - So maybe that's another topic for the next executive committee meeting. All right. Anything else? 00:58:56.930 --> 00:59:07.243 - Um, actually, I just wanted to ask real quickly about the, um, the new program that, um, is collecting 00:59:07.243 --> 00:59:17.656 - hard to recycle. Oh, excuse me, hefty renew. Uh-huh. Yeah. Um, have you had much use of that? Uh, some. 00:59:17.656 --> 00:59:25.566 - Um, and we didn't necessarily expect, you know, a mad rush of people with, um, 00:59:25.730 --> 00:59:33.745 - You know, unfortunately, the bags aren't available locally. You've got to order them, get them delivered. 00:59:33.745 --> 00:59:42.062 - But we've had a few people that were holding on to things, hoping they'd find something other than disposable 00:59:42.062 --> 00:59:49.623 - to do. We've had, I think, a pretty good response to the social media postings that we put up about 00:59:49.623 --> 00:59:54.462 - it. You know, people excited about it. Where do I get the bags? 00:59:55.074 --> 01:00:06.088 - So I think it's been received well and people, the word is getting out. What we don't have at this point 01:00:06.088 --> 01:00:16.787 - is feedback from Rumpke on, in fact, I don't even know if they pulled a load that would have the bags 01:00:16.787 --> 01:00:23.710 - in it yet or not. So I'm wondering about the bags because we have 01:00:23.874 --> 01:00:36.886 - purchase them online. Is it even legal to have the district purchase them and then resell them? 01:00:36.886 --> 01:00:50.983 - I don't know. I would ask the attorney and then that would also be something we'd have to work out with 01:00:50.983 --> 01:00:53.694 - Brump or with Hefty 01:00:54.050 --> 01:01:02.066 - or whoever is producing the bag. Amazon sells the bag. Who's Amazon supplier? Because that's who we 01:01:02.066 --> 01:01:10.083 - would have to be working with. We can't buy from Amazon and you sell them. We have to be a retailer 01:01:10.083 --> 01:01:18.179 - of them. I don't know if we can be a retailer. That would be a legal question. Let me just make sure 01:01:18.179 --> 01:01:23.550 - I understand how this works. People have to buy these bags online. 01:01:24.514 --> 01:01:32.560 - and they get them at home and then they fill them up and they bring them to the district. And then Romkey 01:01:32.560 --> 01:01:40.378 - picks them up. Well, Romkey has us putting them in the bins with all our rigid plastics. And then when 01:01:40.378 --> 01:01:47.968 - all the plastics get to Cincinnati, they pull the renew bags out because they run the renew program 01:01:47.968 --> 01:01:49.790 - in the Cincinnati area. 01:01:50.946 --> 01:01:59.843 - I was wondering why everybody had to have their own bag, but it's because it goes in with the other 01:01:59.843 --> 01:02:08.739 - plastics. Yeah, and that bag is to keep them separate. The purpose for piloting it at just one site 01:02:08.739 --> 01:02:17.814 - is, are the bags going to survive intact? That's the real question. Because they don't do it this way 01:02:17.814 --> 01:02:19.326 - at other places? 01:02:20.034 --> 01:02:27.513 - Why is that? Well, they do, but they're transported from the residence to the sorting facility. They're 01:02:27.513 --> 01:02:34.991 - not transported from our collection facility to a transfer station, put into another truck, transported 01:02:34.991 --> 01:02:42.470 - to Cincinnati, and dumped again. Handled more. Yeah. I've got to get myself some new bags. Because when 01:02:42.470 --> 01:02:48.798 - I was in Germany, I was just amazed. They recycle everything, every piece of packaging. 01:02:48.994 --> 01:02:57.540 - You just put it in with the recycling, with the plastic. Well, and I noticed that Wild Birds Unlimited 01:02:57.540 --> 01:03:05.838 - here in town has a collection of bird seed bags. And I talked to Vintlinger a little bit about this 01:03:05.838 --> 01:03:14.384 - program, and he was kind of interested in more information. He would be happy to be a retailer selling 01:03:14.384 --> 01:03:18.782 - those bags, but for their own use currently, he will 01:03:19.362 --> 01:03:36.628 - because he right now drives them to Cincinnati. Okay, yes. Okay, I think we're almost done. We're just 01:03:36.628 --> 01:03:43.166 - talking about the Hefty Renew program. 01:03:53.410 --> 01:04:03.169 - I think we're about done. Yeah, I think we're about done. I think we're done. We're good. Thanks, Joey. 01:04:03.169 --> 01:04:12.927 - Thank you. Bye-bye. Good night. Good night. I was just watching you answer the phone. I was like, well, 01:04:12.927 --> 01:04:17.150 - who's calling her? Right. Must be important. 01:04:17.314 --> 01:04:24.152 - Anyway, just, you know. Right. And it's good to know that. And I appreciate that. But I think, you know, 01:04:24.152 --> 01:04:30.143 - since we're piloting it right now, I don't want, there's no reason for anybody to make any, 01:04:30.143 --> 01:04:36.785 - take any steps, make any effort to be a retailer until we know that this is something that's going to 01:04:36.785 --> 01:04:43.297 - continue. Sounds reasonable. All right. If there's nothing else, I think we can adjourn. Thank you. 01:04:43.297 --> 01:04:44.990 - Let's do that. Thank you.