WEBVTT 00:00:00.994 --> 00:00:11.837 - I will call to order this meeting of the Executive Committee of the Waste Reduction District of Monroe 00:00:11.837 --> 00:00:22.784 - County for Monday, no, Tuesday, September 1st, 2026. And we'll just do a roll call, Mr. MacLassan. I'll 00:00:22.784 --> 00:00:28.574 - keep it like this. Here. Madeira? Here. Will? Finally. 00:00:28.962 --> 00:00:38.834 - All are present with Commissioner Maduro on lock. All right. Thank you. And we have staff members, Joey 00:00:38.834 --> 00:00:48.800 - Long and John Arnold here, of course, as well as Tom Glesson. All right. So we have some meeting minutes 00:00:48.800 --> 00:00:57.438 - to review the August 4th minutes for the executive committee. Any comments or corrections? 00:00:59.362 --> 00:01:13.581 - I made a few type of directions in the Dropbox. Okay. Else we can have motion. Move to approve. With 00:01:13.581 --> 00:01:24.702 - corrections. None. Okay, do we have a second on the motion to approve? I said. 00:01:28.674 --> 00:01:40.826 - Sorry, did you did you second? So, did you second the motion? Oh, sorry. Yes, I second it. Thank you. 00:01:40.826 --> 00:01:52.382 - All right. I'll call vote, please. Madeira. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. 00:01:53.186 --> 00:02:03.545 - Any comments on the board of director meeting minutes from August 13th? We don't need to vote, but just 00:02:03.545 --> 00:02:13.206 - have some oversight of that before it goes forward. I made some type of corrections to that too. 00:02:13.206 --> 00:02:22.270 - Any comments? All good. We can move on to the host fee review. Do you have some data here? 00:02:22.562 --> 00:02:33.377 - provided by the staff. Mr. McClassen, you want to walk us through this? We had a question and a request 00:02:33.377 --> 00:02:43.879 - regarding the host fee revenues and why the amounts paid by the two entities vary and so we put some 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:52.510 - information together on page 13 of the packet and there's two primary reasons that 00:02:52.802 --> 00:02:59.224 - you know, the amounts are so different between the two entities than that. First off, it is based on 00:02:59.224 --> 00:03:05.710 - tonnage on the volume of the figure going through the facility. And the second one is, even though we 00:03:05.710 --> 00:03:12.068 - entered into a new host fee agreement when the Brumke facility opened, Republicans continued to pay 00:03:12.068 --> 00:03:17.854 - their fee monthly, which is how they had always done it in the past. But the new agreement 00:03:18.626 --> 00:03:28.340 - does say payments are due quarterly and so Brumkey pays quarterly. So what you have there is the tonnage 00:03:28.340 --> 00:03:37.592 - that was reported for the facilities and the corresponding post fee payments with a note that under 00:03:37.592 --> 00:03:45.918 - the host fee agreements that waste received from the district and the city of Bloomington 00:03:46.018 --> 00:03:54.204 - Uh, as exempt from the host fee, uh, and, uh, those, those tonnages do not reflect the subtraction, 00:03:54.204 --> 00:04:02.881 - uh, of those volumes. Did not have time to crunch those numbers, but, uh, in essence, uh, public services 00:04:02.881 --> 00:04:11.148 - receives cities. The waste collected by cities annotation, Cronkite receives, uh, the orange bag and 00:04:11.148 --> 00:04:14.750 - bulky item waste collected by the district. 00:04:24.226 --> 00:04:32.928 - So there's really no way for us to check that the amounts are accurate, so to speak, because it must 00:04:32.928 --> 00:04:41.630 - depend on them to report to us the tonnage and subtract out. Well, yes, but there's also the tonnage 00:04:41.630 --> 00:04:50.590 - comes from a quarterly tonnage report that they're required to submit to IDA that the accuracy of which 00:04:50.590 --> 00:04:53.950 - the facility reporting does attest to. 00:04:54.530 --> 00:05:01.030 - And obviously we had our tonnage. When I started putting this together, just because it hadn't been 00:05:01.030 --> 00:05:07.595 - a while since I've looked at it, I did a request from city sanitation, their tonnage figures for the 00:05:07.595 --> 00:05:14.226 - previous 12 months. And it said they would get them to me. I haven't received those yet. I don't know 00:05:14.226 --> 00:05:20.921 - when someone should receive. We will crunch the numbers a little tighter and make sure that things are 00:05:20.921 --> 00:05:23.326 - matching up with the paint received. 00:05:23.810 --> 00:05:34.050 - And do you collect data on the tonnage of the orange bags? Yeah. Yeah. The board sees that. That's in 00:05:34.050 --> 00:05:44.090 - the report Mr. Long puts in the board packet every month. And so I know you just said this, but I'm 00:05:44.090 --> 00:05:52.222 - still processing. The difference between the tonnage under Republic and Runke is 00:05:52.610 --> 00:06:01.113 - that Republic has more of the other entities? Yeah, I mean, that's the logical assumption. You know, 00:06:01.113 --> 00:06:10.375 - that's the more established facility that's been in place since the 80s. Interestingly enough, was originally 00:06:10.375 --> 00:06:18.878 - constructed and opened by Rumpke, purchased by the Republic. And then, and then yeah, Rumpke went to 00:06:18.978 --> 00:06:30.351 - Just a couple of years ago, I opened the resource recovery facility. So, you know, that's a newer facility 00:06:30.351 --> 00:06:41.406 - that's still growing and generating business. So, do you anticipate that Rocky's tonnage will increase? 00:06:48.482 --> 00:06:57.750 - I don't know that I'm in a position to say yes or no to that. Because ideally, from the district's 00:06:57.750 --> 00:07:07.392 - perspective, ideally, both facilities tend to just start to decrease because we're diverting material. 00:07:07.392 --> 00:07:17.502 - The reality is that that is not a trend that we necessarily have seen over the years. But that is the goal. 00:07:18.594 --> 00:07:27.520 - The other side of that too is that those obviously those facilities service an area much larger than 00:07:27.520 --> 00:07:36.358 - Monroe County only. The tonnages that you're seeing there, to my knowledge, for the investment that 00:07:36.358 --> 00:07:45.726 - they made in that facility, that's not sustainable. They need more volume coming through there to justify 00:07:45.954 --> 00:07:53.964 - of the investment that they've made in that facility. But the number here is only the tonnage from Monroe 00:07:53.964 --> 00:08:01.898 - County. Correct. So they probably are getting tonnage from that. Yes. But still. Yeah. The first quarter 00:08:01.898 --> 00:08:09.832 - or the third quarter of 2025, they received greater than 9,400 tons of material. That was just a portion 00:08:09.832 --> 00:08:11.646 - of Monroe County waste. 00:08:15.298 --> 00:08:24.314 - So, is it your intention, Tom, that once you get the city sanitation data, you can check the host fee 00:08:24.314 --> 00:08:33.418 - payments from your public? Yeah, yeah. And once you have a chance to do so, you can check the host fee 00:08:33.418 --> 00:08:38.014 - payments from Romkey based on our orange bag. Yeah. 00:08:38.306 --> 00:08:47.623 - Yeah, we have the data that we need. I just didn't have time to crush those numbers, putting this together. 00:08:47.623 --> 00:08:56.250 - We have the data we need to confirm the run key post fee payments, but I need the city's data to be 00:08:56.250 --> 00:09:04.446 - able to do it for Republicans. I think, yeah, without that information, to me, I'm like, okay. 00:09:05.058 --> 00:09:19.154 - I don't know what to say about us, but verify. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's great that we're paying less. 00:09:19.154 --> 00:09:31.038 - Yeah, I guess the I guess the other question I would have is how does this compare to 00:09:33.506 --> 00:09:44.208 - before Rumpke became operational? As far as the money that came into the district. We can look at that 00:09:44.208 --> 00:09:55.429 - more closely. Off the top of my head, I believe that our host fee has increased since the host fee received 00:09:55.429 --> 00:10:03.326 - has increased since that facility opened. And noting that, although we did, 00:10:04.770 --> 00:10:15.031 - budget next year, a decrease in host fee revenue based on the year-to-date data that we had to this 00:10:15.031 --> 00:10:25.702 - point. But I think in looking at the numbers here, we're looking at almost $360,000 in host fee revenue 00:10:25.702 --> 00:10:34.526 - over the past year, and I think $350,000 is what we budgeted for 2026, and so I think 00:10:34.690 --> 00:10:46.212 - I guess I'm hoping that the health care revenue that we budgeted for 2027, you know, winds up showing 00:10:46.212 --> 00:10:57.509 - to be a conservative and we'll surpass that in actual revenue to receive. But again, our mission is 00:10:57.509 --> 00:11:02.366 - to not increase those. Well, wait, this is 00:11:03.394 --> 00:11:11.391 - Yeah, the statement underneath the table says total host fee paid July 2026 through June 2026. I'm sorry, 00:11:11.391 --> 00:11:19.012 - that should be 2025. So we are trapped because that somebody 358K. Yes, I mean, it's for a different 00:11:19.012 --> 00:11:26.632 - 12 month period, but right? Yeah, we have been putting the 27 budget together and looking at year to 00:11:26.632 --> 00:11:32.894 - day revenues. We were looking short and it's possible that when I when I did that, 00:11:33.154 --> 00:11:45.826 - you know, one of them may have been behind on getting a payment. That does happen from time to time. 00:11:45.826 --> 00:11:58.749 - Budget-wise with regard to the hosting, we're in good shape. Okay, so dumb question. The tonnage isn't 00:11:58.749 --> 00:12:01.886 - showing the subtraction. 00:12:02.178 --> 00:12:10.718 - of the other entities, but the fee won't go, won't be like pulled back to those other entities, 00:12:10.718 --> 00:12:20.415 - will it? I mean. No, so basically how it works is, you know, we'll just, we use round numbers for simplicity 00:12:20.415 --> 00:12:29.311 - sake, but you know, the facility says, you know, they determined that they need to charge $50 a ton 00:12:29.311 --> 00:12:32.158 - based on their operating costs. 00:12:32.482 --> 00:12:42.209 - So what the public pays going across the scale is $52.75 a ton. The $2.75 comes back to us. When the 00:12:42.209 --> 00:12:50.973 - city goes across the scale or when our boxes go across the scale, it's either at $50 a ton 00:12:50.973 --> 00:13:01.182 - or at a pre-negotiated rate. And so, and there's no $2.75 attached to that. Okay. So it's just the money. 00:13:02.498 --> 00:13:10.851 - Yeah. He's saying no. No. It's any residential that goes, that's not part of the city. So if I took 00:13:10.851 --> 00:13:19.372 - my trash down there, I would still pay the 275. Correct. Right. A private hauling company is the city 00:13:19.372 --> 00:13:27.808 - sanitation department does not pay a host fee on the tonnage that's in their trucks that goes across 00:13:27.808 --> 00:13:30.398 - the scale. The, you know, the, 00:13:30.690 --> 00:13:40.485 - The waste that won't be hauled from our facility does not pay a host fee. When it goes across the scale, 00:13:40.485 --> 00:13:49.721 - everything else pays a host fee. I think, Kate, to clarify, the host fee is not going to decrease. 00:13:49.721 --> 00:13:55.038 - I mean, these have already been paid to us. When we take 00:13:55.202 --> 00:14:02.926 - They're not like, we're going to deduct a number corresponding to the city. No, that's kind of what 00:14:02.926 --> 00:14:10.882 - I was getting for the future and the 2 entities. They do that calculation before they send us the post 00:14:10.882 --> 00:14:18.606 - to be got it. That makes sense. That's what I was missing that part. And I believe Joey would have. 00:14:18.606 --> 00:14:24.862 - But what Republic reported as city tonnage. But we don't have the city standard. 00:14:25.250 --> 00:14:33.113 - Confirm that. I see. Okay, yeah, we do check it at the end of the year from time to time to ensure it 00:14:33.113 --> 00:14:40.821 - matches up with what's going with the state to report with the State Department. Okay. Have we done 00:14:40.821 --> 00:14:48.529 - the kind of matching up with city figures? Previously, or is this the first that were? No, it would 00:14:48.529 --> 00:14:53.694 - have it would have been done last year. We do it about every year. 00:14:55.586 --> 00:15:02.479 - And that, you know, and I'm not, I'm not going to say it doesn't come out to the penny every year, but 00:15:02.479 --> 00:15:09.372 - when you're talking about a quarter million dollars over the course of a year, we're 1020 dollars off. 00:15:09.372 --> 00:15:16.667 - We're not going to go chasing it. Okay. Well, I think this is very helpful. Jody, did you have any questions 00:15:16.667 --> 00:15:19.678 - or comments on it? No, no, I don't actually. 00:15:19.970 --> 00:15:29.755 - and this was I was taking notes. This is very helpful. It helped me understand things that I previously 00:15:29.755 --> 00:15:39.164 - had not actually before. Good. Thank you. OK, so maybe at a future at the next executive meeting we 00:15:39.164 --> 00:15:48.478 - can. Yeah, we just need to get the sanitation gets that data to us and we can create some numbers. 00:15:49.858 --> 00:16:04.005 - Sounds good. All right. Then we have the issue of the group health insurance. Yeah. On this discussion 00:16:04.005 --> 00:16:18.014 - we've been looking forward to. So we're being advised by our current insurance carrier as well as our 00:16:18.466 --> 00:16:29.948 - the JEE Benefits or Benefit Administrators that come to the next renewal on January 1, we will no longer 00:16:29.948 --> 00:16:41.320 - be able to offer coverage to employees working under 30 hours a week through our group health insurance 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.694 - plan. Jody, I apologize we're not here. 00:16:48.482 --> 00:17:00.235 - I think I can email this stuff. This is a sheet that I provide the employee that we are going to do 00:17:00.235 --> 00:17:11.988 - renewal that shows what rate changes are going to occur with the renewal. I'll give them an idea of 00:17:11.988 --> 00:17:17.630 - where they are. And then the next two pages are 00:17:18.594 --> 00:17:34.509 - showing we have two employees who, well, we have three employees total that will be losing coverage 00:17:34.509 --> 00:17:43.262 - under those terms. Two of which are Medicare eligible, 00:17:44.578 --> 00:17:53.605 - but carry insurance because their spouse is not Medicare eligible. So the other two sheets that I provided 00:17:53.605 --> 00:18:02.041 - to show what J.A. benefits put together, what those people would be paying on the marketplace. Now, 00:18:02.041 --> 00:18:09.886 - when you say we only have three employees in this category of under 30 hours, does that mean 00:18:11.074 --> 00:18:19.738 - We only have three employees who are using the health insurance benefit that are currently enrolled 00:18:19.738 --> 00:18:28.576 - in the plan. We have eight employees that fit that criteria. I don't know, but only three of them are 00:18:28.576 --> 00:18:37.413 - enrolled in the plan. So potentially another five, if we switched employees, if there was a change in 00:18:37.413 --> 00:18:38.366 - employees. 00:18:38.498 --> 00:18:50.349 - and individuals. We have up to eight people in this category. Right, yeah. You know, always, yeah, employee 00:18:50.349 --> 00:19:01.762 - turnover can always result in bringing somebody in that wants insurance, that's replacing somebody that 00:19:01.762 --> 00:19:07.358 - is not. Sorry, I interrupted you. No, you're fine. 00:19:07.906 --> 00:19:21.472 - Let me get this stuff over to Jody anyway. So the market place is always an option. It's not the cheapest 00:19:21.472 --> 00:19:34.270 - option that's out there, but it is an option. And J Benefits has other clients in similar positions 00:19:34.270 --> 00:19:36.958 - that offer a stipend 00:19:38.722 --> 00:19:45.981 - to those employees that fit in a category like this. And so that they can use that to go out on the 00:19:45.981 --> 00:19:53.313 - marketplace and find their own coverage. That would say that's something that would be new to us and 00:19:53.313 --> 00:20:00.645 - there's criteria and limits and stuff that, you know, in place and you don't, I guess in stipend may 00:20:00.645 --> 00:20:04.638 - not be the right word because you don't just give them 00:20:05.250 --> 00:20:13.586 - $1,000 a month as they go find it and they find a $500 a month plan. But you know, so you have enrolled 00:20:13.586 --> 00:20:21.761 - in their plan and then find out what the premium the monthly premium is and then make arrangements to 00:20:21.761 --> 00:20:28.734 - reimburse them for all or a portion of that, depending on what kind of limits you set. 00:20:37.442 --> 00:20:50.466 - What's another key? Is there ours? Well, yeah, and that is and I know that. I think then we enjoy and 00:20:50.466 --> 00:21:03.234 - I have discussed some potential staff reorganization that would potentially allow for some of these 00:21:03.234 --> 00:21:05.022 - employees to. 00:21:05.730 --> 00:21:13.924 - uh, increase their hours, you know, to become benefit eligible. Um, but that does, uh, that does generate 00:21:13.924 --> 00:21:21.809 - some, you know, additional issues. Um, you know, because how do you pick which employees get the job? 00:21:21.809 --> 00:21:28.766 - You know, the positions that are over 30 hours a week, because I don't know that we could 00:21:30.466 --> 00:21:37.998 - Well, we haven't gotten into enough detail of it yet, but it is something that we're discussing. Joey, 00:21:37.998 --> 00:21:45.895 - I don't know if you want to, but it's specific to South Walnut, but the potential is there to take somebody 00:21:45.895 --> 00:21:53.573 - that's working two shifts a week at a rural site, 11 hours a day, and give them a 10 hour shift at South 00:21:53.573 --> 00:22:00.446 - Walnut on a weekly basis, which would get them over 30 hours. They would have to agree to it. 00:22:00.834 --> 00:22:08.405 - But you know, those are long days, they would have to agree to it. And if they didn't agree to it, and 00:22:08.405 --> 00:22:15.830 - that's a change we wanted to make, then are we telling them they don't have a job anymore? You know, 00:22:15.830 --> 00:22:23.401 - so there's, you know, there's certainly not anything that we've talked about or worked our way through 00:22:23.401 --> 00:22:27.518 - yet. But it is something that we're, we're toying with. 00:22:27.746 --> 00:22:34.522 - Um, because, because I've been pretty seasoned in GBN. Yeah. So our GBN customers, current ones, is 00:22:34.522 --> 00:22:41.434 - one picked up more often because they're busier and we have other clients that want to come on and do 00:22:41.434 --> 00:22:48.279 - recycling. But we currently have our truck drivers working Wednesday through Saturday. I only need a 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:54.174 - side operator on Saturday. I don't need a truck driver because we don't do no pickups. 00:22:54.914 --> 00:23:02.236 - So therefore I want to move those to Tuesday through Friday where I can offer more businesses and take 00:23:02.236 --> 00:23:09.344 - advantage of my truck drivers. That would open up some shifts on Saturday that I could use a relief 00:23:09.344 --> 00:23:16.452 - operator or a site operator to fill the void. And right now I have a material handler position that 00:23:16.452 --> 00:23:23.774 - we're not feeling until we decide what we want to do. That way we take advantage of our opportunities. 00:23:25.570 --> 00:23:38.816 - The cutoff is exactly 30, so 32 would work. 30 would work. That's crazy count. Okay. Overall, is it 00:23:38.816 --> 00:23:52.062 - possible to do something where you do not offer health benefits to people under 30 hours except for 00:23:52.418 --> 00:24:00.295 - grandfathering and the three people, not the eight people, but the three people, is that like horrible? 00:24:00.295 --> 00:24:08.096 - I'm being told that's not an option. Okay. So we have to offer it to everybody. And that's, that makes 00:24:08.096 --> 00:24:16.124 - a lot more sense to me. So you offer it to everybody until you don't. Right. And 30 hours is that cutoff. 00:24:16.124 --> 00:24:21.502 - Yeah. I'm just trying to think of an attrition way to kind of make it. 00:24:22.402 --> 00:24:37.486 - work. I've asked eight ways from Sunday. What are these sheets for? These two, that is something that 00:24:37.486 --> 00:24:52.126 - Dave benefits put together for me that is that takes the two existing spouses covered by our plan. 00:24:52.578 --> 00:25:03.519 - but they're not Medicare eligible. And this is what this is comparable plans to what we offer. This 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:14.570 - is what would cost them out on the marketplace to go get their own insurance. Okay. Which the actual 00:25:14.570 --> 00:25:20.478 - employees who are eligible for Medicare, two of them, 00:25:20.738 --> 00:25:27.748 - Yeah, the actual employees whose spouses these are are Medicare eligible. This Medicare provides the 00:25:27.748 --> 00:25:34.758 - same level of health insurance benefit as. What the district currently provides? I I I would have to 00:25:34.758 --> 00:25:41.906 - ask you about this to make that comparison. I don't know that I know enough about Medicare, so there's 00:25:41.906 --> 00:25:48.222 - a lot that's complicated, especially if they're already eligible, but they didn't take it. 00:25:50.338 --> 00:25:58.215 - It seems to me, based on what you said just a few minutes ago, how we have to offer the same thing to 00:25:58.215 --> 00:26:06.093 - all eight people that are in this situation. That stuff is kind of irrelevant. Well, that she she put 00:26:06.093 --> 00:26:13.970 - that together for me so that if you know if it was determined that we had no way to continue to offer 00:26:13.970 --> 00:26:17.214 - health insurance to those employees, but. 00:26:17.698 --> 00:26:25.486 - uh, they have, they have some clients that in those situations will give money to help offset this cost. 00:26:25.486 --> 00:26:32.828 - So she wanted to show us what these employees would be looking at spending out in the marketplace. 00:26:32.828 --> 00:26:40.245 - If we said, we'll, you know, you can look at what, you know, this whole purpose for an employee and 00:26:40.245 --> 00:26:46.846 - a spouse. And it's, it's not real cut and dry here, but so under our PPO plan, you know, 00:26:47.362 --> 00:26:57.665 - The district's paying over $2,300 a month, or well, no, the $2,300 a month is the monthly premium. 00:26:57.665 --> 00:27:08.176 - Of that, the employee's paying $465. So the district is paying about $1,900 a month for the coverage 00:27:08.176 --> 00:27:17.022 - for that employee and their spouse. That's the 80% employer portion of that premium. 00:27:17.218 --> 00:27:28.075 - What column or table? So on the employee benefit premium rates deductions under the first section, the 00:27:28.075 --> 00:27:39.037 - Anthem Balance Funding 909C, which is our current PPO plan, the 2026 renewal section under the employee 00:27:39.037 --> 00:27:45.150 - and spouse line, the monthly premiums, $2,320.10 a month. 00:27:46.978 --> 00:27:56.609 - Of that, the employee portion is 465.62. So the remainder of that's paid by the district. OK, 00:27:56.609 --> 00:28:06.854 - so you know, so then you can look at that and say, well, you know, since we budgeted based on that. 00:28:06.854 --> 00:28:14.846 - Without impacting budget, we could offer X dollars a month. To that employee. 00:28:15.234 --> 00:28:29.033 - for them to go out on the marketplace and find their own publishers. But you also have an HSA plan. 00:28:29.033 --> 00:28:44.350 - Yeah, we do have an HSA plan. And a lot of places now only offer HSA plans because of their... So that's 1862. 00:28:44.994 --> 00:28:54.762 - Yeah, and that brings up the offering the two different plans is another issue that this brings to light 00:28:54.762 --> 00:29:04.251 - because the general rule and Anthem's rule to offer two different plans, you have to have 10 enrolled 00:29:04.251 --> 00:29:12.158 - employees. And each plan? No. We currently have 12. If we lose three, we go to nine. 00:29:13.922 --> 00:29:21.564 - We only have 12 employees total that use our health insurance. Well, again, that's, you know, 00:29:21.564 --> 00:29:29.776 - like we have, and that part of that is the demographic of our employees, because we have those rural 00:29:29.776 --> 00:29:38.150 - sites and most of those, most of the people that work at those rural sites are retired or semi-retired 00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:40.670 - and they're Medicare eligible. 00:29:41.794 --> 00:29:50.173 - they've chosen to stay with Medicare and not deal with the group health insurance, which is fine. That's 00:29:50.173 --> 00:29:58.393 - their prerogative. So we can't offer any group health insurance if we have fewer than 10 participants? 00:29:58.393 --> 00:30:06.613 - No, we can't offer two different options. At which point are you forced to pick one type or the other? 00:30:06.613 --> 00:30:09.566 - The HSA? I haven't thought that far. 00:30:11.586 --> 00:30:20.390 - But, okay, but I mean, do they tell you which one you have to do? Okay. That was what I meant. Is it, 00:30:20.390 --> 00:30:29.540 - this is a choice made for you. Okay. Looking at that same spot on the HSA plan, it looks like it's about, 00:30:29.540 --> 00:30:38.430 - it's more expensive. Why would that, that's. So. Employee and spouse under the HSA is 1,718 per month. 00:30:39.042 --> 00:30:50.134 - versus 2328 per month for the PPO. But the district contributes a thousand dollars. Oh, that's not per 00:30:50.134 --> 00:31:01.010 - month. No, that's annually. Got it. Okay. So it is the cheaper. Okay, not much really, but. And then 00:31:01.010 --> 00:31:07.902 - these are equivalent to these, but not including dental vision, 00:31:08.578 --> 00:31:16.180 - Dental and vision is wholly separate from our health insurance. It's not a combined option. Are people 00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:23.929 - eligible, part-timers eligible for these too? At this point, SIHO has not said anything about the dental 00:31:23.929 --> 00:31:31.457 - and vision. Fascinating. Well, we're self-funded for dental and vision. Okay. And that's probably why 00:31:31.457 --> 00:31:36.254 - they just, SIHO just administers the plan and the claims for it. 00:31:39.234 --> 00:31:50.255 - I'm not asking for any decisions or anything today. We don't have, I mean, we need to start thinking 00:31:50.255 --> 00:32:01.385 - about it, but we don't really need, well, we're not even gonna be in a position to make any decisions 00:32:01.385 --> 00:32:08.478 - probably until November when we start to get the renewal quotes. 00:32:08.578 --> 00:32:15.038 - And we can have, you know, as we always do, would have J.A. benefits, you know, we always, obviously, 00:32:15.038 --> 00:32:21.752 - always look at the existing carrier. But then we would also say, OK, you know, give us some other options 00:32:21.752 --> 00:32:28.086 - to look at, you know, are there better policies or are there cheaper policies? But J.A. benefits is 00:32:28.086 --> 00:32:33.406 - telling me that they're seeing this across the board, this sort of being a minimum. 00:32:51.650 --> 00:33:01.234 - So a possibility would be a policy that says if you work more than X number of hours, but not more than 00:33:01.234 --> 00:33:10.541 - 30 or not more than 29. So 20 because you don't want to give a health insurance statement to someone 00:33:10.541 --> 00:33:19.848 - who's working four hours a week necessarily just saying so. So people working 29 and under. We can't 00:33:19.848 --> 00:33:20.862 - offer you. 00:33:21.186 --> 00:33:28.226 - health coverage, but we can offer to give, to pay the X amount toward whatever coverage you purchase. 00:33:28.226 --> 00:33:35.472 - But we can't give it to you. We give it to, but somehow it's administered that they pick what they want, 00:33:35.472 --> 00:33:42.443 - but we somehow help pay. Yeah, I don't know all the details of how that works. That's just something 00:33:42.443 --> 00:33:49.552 - Jay, this is a benefits has put that out as a possibility. And if there's interest in looking at that, 00:33:49.552 --> 00:33:51.070 - then we can certainly 00:33:51.170 --> 00:33:58.613 - you know, get into the details of how would that work and who is the district paying money to? I think 00:33:58.613 --> 00:34:05.190 - I would like to know more details about that. I mean, because. Reorganizing staff. I mean. 00:34:05.190 --> 00:34:12.705 - Like you said, who are you going to? How are you going to decide which employees to keep? Which I mean, 00:34:12.705 --> 00:34:18.270 - are they going to be? Are they going to feel forced to take the extra shift? 00:34:18.850 --> 00:34:28.195 - Well, that's part of the question too, because if we take, you know, if we take a staffing reorganization 00:34:28.195 --> 00:34:37.099 - to the board and the board approves that, well, that just became what the position is. If you're not 00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:46.092 - going to work those shifts, we have to find somebody who will. Which, yeah, isn't inappropriate. It's 00:34:46.092 --> 00:34:47.326 - not maybe the 00:34:47.586 --> 00:34:56.266 - It's not necessarily a position that I want to be put in or put an employee in, but. But it would be 00:34:56.266 --> 00:35:05.118 - about the positions and not about the individuals at the positions. How many hours a week do the folks 00:35:05.118 --> 00:35:14.142 - that are below 30 that get the benefits work? 23. All eight of them? So that would be. Occasionally. 23. 00:35:14.338 --> 00:35:26.840 - Occasionally 25 when we have safety trainings and stuff that they need to come in for. Again, I know 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:39.218 - this is a lot and I get it because I've been dealing with this for a few months. It's not pleasant. 00:35:39.218 --> 00:35:43.550 - Regardless of how this comes down, 00:35:43.778 --> 00:35:55.562 - You know, it's not a discussion I'm looking forward to having with employees, but it's the position 00:35:55.562 --> 00:36:07.465 - that we're in. I mean, the fact of the matter is not very many places pay part-time employees health 00:36:07.465 --> 00:36:12.414 - insurance. So it's amazing and I love it. 00:36:13.506 --> 00:36:23.159 - And then I think we should look at how we can continue. But at the same time, we have to also recognize 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:32.534 - that it might be something that we have to phase out. Well, and we can maybe think if we're thinking 00:36:32.534 --> 00:36:41.630 - long term as these employees retire or leave, we might think about a staff reorganization so that 00:36:42.178 --> 00:36:52.636 - We don't, we're not in this position for a long term. Yeah. I mean, if we, if we find, you know, a solution 00:36:52.636 --> 00:37:02.415 - with current staffing that works, but then maybe that's the long-term solution. Um, is it once, once 00:37:02.415 --> 00:37:11.614 - somebody that's in that position, the rest of your grandfather did and then, and the new hire. 00:37:11.874 --> 00:37:19.648 - is under a different set of benefit options. Yeah, we have to do that. We weren't allowed to do that. 00:37:19.648 --> 00:37:27.423 - We are allowed to do that. And if we can offer somebody 10 hours, if we can do if we can do if we can 00:37:27.423 --> 00:37:35.274 - bring it up to this, we're going to do something like, you know, if we're going to offer a stipend for 00:37:35.274 --> 00:37:40.990 - the marketplace, I I'll double check. But I don't know that I think that's 00:37:41.346 --> 00:37:49.212 - something that we could do to offset the change taking place now and not have to offer up to new employees 00:37:49.212 --> 00:37:57.079 - that didn't lose any benefit to begin with. I see. Okay. I would want to confirm that, but I think because 00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:04.798 - we're not, we didn't just, you know, that's, that's the other thing that's like you said that, you know, 00:38:05.794 --> 00:38:12.748 - go find somebody else that's offering health insurance to somebody working 23 hours a week, but they've 00:38:12.748 --> 00:38:19.567 - got it. And it sucks to have to say, you may not have it anymore. Yeah, I just don't think long-term, 00:38:19.567 --> 00:38:26.187 - it's the best way to do things to say, okay, we're going to give you $1,800 to spend on insurance. 00:38:26.187 --> 00:38:33.274 - I mean, it's bureaucratically a pain and it's who knows what the market's going to cost. Well, J-Benefits 00:38:33.274 --> 00:38:35.614 - has other clients that do do that. 00:38:35.714 --> 00:38:44.079 - So let me get more information on that. Let me find out how many of those, if any of those clients are 00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:52.281 - public entities. And how does that logistically work? Right. How does an employer set that criteria? 00:38:52.281 --> 00:39:00.565 - And who is the money being paid to? The employee, to the carrier for whatever plan they pick? I think 00:39:00.565 --> 00:39:04.382 - we can certainly look at more details on that. 00:39:05.346 --> 00:39:18.006 - Again, this is just when you budgeted when we budgeted. Did you budget and you didn't? I don't think 00:39:18.006 --> 00:39:30.918 - budget per position, assuming the possibility of every single employee taking the Max benefit. No, the 00:39:30.918 --> 00:39:34.302 - budget budget is based on. 00:39:34.434 --> 00:39:41.049 - current enrollment. Yeah. Okay. That's what I thought. I remember plus, plus a cushion so that if somebody 00:39:41.049 --> 00:39:47.355 - gets married, somebody has a child, somebody leaves, it's not on insurance gets replaced by somebody. 00:39:47.355 --> 00:39:53.661 - So we have that, that money there to cover that without an additional appropriation. Um, yeah, but if 00:39:53.661 --> 00:40:00.214 - we went into this open enrollment period and everybody that's been a bit eligible said, I want insurance, 00:40:00.214 --> 00:40:03.614 - we're going to need an additional appropriation. Yeah. 00:40:04.962 --> 00:40:13.257 - But again, we have, I mean, again, turnover is hard to predict and what comes of that. But we know our 00:40:13.257 --> 00:40:21.632 - current employees, we know those that are Medicare eligible and want to stay on Medicare. We know those 00:40:21.632 --> 00:40:29.685 - that are on their spouse's coverage. Of course, spouses could always change jobs or have changes to 00:40:29.685 --> 00:40:30.974 - their benefits. 00:40:33.602 --> 00:40:47.472 - the likelihood that we get a substantial enrollment increase in an open enrollment period is not very 00:40:47.472 --> 00:41:01.342 - good. Okay, so it seems like we do want more information about this option to provide funding towards 00:41:02.658 --> 00:41:11.225 - external health insurance. More info on marketplace policies. And again, that's, and that's what this, 00:41:11.225 --> 00:41:19.542 - this is the, here's the situation we find this in. Let me know what questions, whatever information 00:41:19.542 --> 00:41:27.859 - you have, so I can get that together. It does seem like we should probably know if this is going to 00:41:27.859 --> 00:41:31.518 - be impacted, dental vision, other benefits. 00:41:31.650 --> 00:41:43.729 - Yeah, that's a different animal because it's a different company and are self-insured. All right. So 00:41:43.729 --> 00:41:56.046 - to the three employees who work 23 hours who use our insurance, are they also using dental and vision? 00:41:56.046 --> 00:42:00.830 - We know. I don't know. I know one does. 00:42:02.882 --> 00:42:13.445 - Maybe two for sure, because they've asked me questions. Yeah, thank you. So we need to know what. 00:42:13.445 --> 00:42:24.762 - And patch. If if this is going to be impacted and it might just be that we could still offer. Then yeah, 00:42:24.762 --> 00:42:32.414 - I know I'll I'll confirm I've never heard of that, but. We could also. 00:42:34.114 --> 00:42:43.473 - look at it as, okay, we recognize this is a change that is being, you know, put onto us. And so we will 00:42:43.473 --> 00:42:52.471 - lessen the blow. So we'll offer, you know, 1600 this year, and then next year we'll offer 1300. And 00:42:52.471 --> 00:43:01.650 - then after that, it's like a thousand, but you know, to phase it out. So. Yeah, I think that, I mean, 00:43:01.650 --> 00:43:02.910 - that would be 00:43:03.138 --> 00:43:10.047 - board's decision and that's certainly an option. And, you know, um, once we have renewal rates, it would 00:43:10.047 --> 00:43:16.692 - be easy to say, okay, the district is, you know, not putting, you know, because you're off the plan, 00:43:16.692 --> 00:43:22.680 - we're saving this much money so we can put this much money toward, you know, you going out 00:43:22.680 --> 00:43:29.391 - on the marketplace. But that's where I'm going to talk with you, benefits about ton of this work, how 00:43:29.391 --> 00:43:32.286 - the criteria set is paying who, what money, 00:43:33.122 --> 00:43:41.998 - Um, yeah, but I mean, you know, we can't, we can't sit there and say, we'll pay the 1800 we've been 00:43:41.998 --> 00:43:50.962 - paying. We have, we have to know what the budget impact of all that's going to be. I mean, it should 00:43:50.962 --> 00:44:00.104 - be a wash depending on what the increase and stuff is. That's why I didn't say 1500. Right. But right. 00:44:00.104 --> 00:44:01.790 - I mean, it's yeah. 00:44:03.170 --> 00:44:12.255 - There's a lot to consider. It is. It's not going to be a fun process. But it's not much that we have 00:44:12.255 --> 00:44:21.251 - a whole lot of control over being put in. Yeah, right. So I'm sorry, Tom, what was your reaction to 00:44:21.251 --> 00:44:26.558 - Kate's idea about phasing out? I think it's a possibility. 00:44:26.722 --> 00:44:36.523 - Something like that is obviously the board's decision, but there's certainly an option that gives those 00:44:36.523 --> 00:44:46.135 - employees that are put in this position some time to help determine what coverages are out there that 00:44:46.135 --> 00:44:52.638 - are best for them and get their finances in order to deal with that. 00:44:59.106 --> 00:45:06.746 - And that, you know, then it's. But November will be here before we know it. Yeah. And I guess the other, 00:45:06.746 --> 00:45:14.241 - I guess the other, what we have the other side of this that we haven't, you know, somebody, one of you 00:45:14.241 --> 00:45:21.591 - asked, you know, how does Medicare compare to what we currently offer? Which is, which is a question 00:45:21.591 --> 00:45:24.574 - because, you know, one of the, you know, 00:45:24.738 --> 00:45:33.134 - When Megan and J.A. put these sheets together for me, we were only looking at the spouse because we're 00:45:33.134 --> 00:45:41.694 - going to tell you, you know, you're Medicare eligible. We can't, you know, we can't offer you insurance. 00:45:41.694 --> 00:45:49.927 - You have to go on Medicare. Oh, this is just covering one person. This is covering two people. Yeah. 00:45:49.927 --> 00:45:52.862 - Pretty duperty. Only a four spouse. 00:45:53.602 --> 00:46:02.473 - So, you know, I apologize because that's something I probably should have put out there sooner. 00:46:02.473 --> 00:46:11.992 - You know, part of the whole marketplace plans is that, you know, you're offering that to the employees 00:46:11.992 --> 00:46:21.417 - or the family members that don't have other options. If you're medically eligible, you'd have another 00:46:21.417 --> 00:46:23.358 - one. Yeah. Yeah. So. 00:46:29.314 --> 00:46:37.090 - was comparing what the district pays for employee and spouse now to what was on this sheet for the sample 00:46:37.090 --> 00:46:44.498 - employee. And I'm saying, oh, well, that's about the same or could be about the same, but the sample 00:46:44.498 --> 00:46:52.201 - employee sheet is only for the spouse. Well, right. Because we're assuming the other employee themselves 00:46:52.201 --> 00:46:56.382 - will get the Medicare. Right. From a budget perspective, 00:46:56.578 --> 00:47:04.880 - If the employee goes on Medicare, then, you know, what we have budgeted for that employee's insurance 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:13.183 - purposes, you know, that makes a bigger dent on the spouse's marketplace. Say what? Well, I think the 00:47:13.183 --> 00:47:21.892 - budgeting isn't a part of it though. If the employee goes on Medicare, you know, but what we have budgeted 00:47:21.892 --> 00:47:26.206 - for that employee is the employee and spouse policy. 00:47:26.402 --> 00:47:33.166 - We're not putting anything towards that employee because they're on Medicare, right? So as far as budgeting, 00:47:33.166 --> 00:47:39.372 - right? You know what? The flip side of that is that Medicare is not wholly free, right? And they're 00:47:39.372 --> 00:47:45.640 - their costs are going to get. But a lot. Their personal because they will have Medicare, even though 00:47:45.640 --> 00:47:52.094 - you paid into it your whole life, it's still not free when you turn 65. It's not no. Sorry, I'm totally 00:47:52.094 --> 00:47:54.142 - naive on that. Yeah, and that's. 00:47:54.530 --> 00:48:03.157 - And that's what I was talking about, too, about if you've been eligible and not taking it, there are 00:48:03.157 --> 00:48:11.870 - different options open. And I don't know much about it, but it impacts what you cut. Oh, my goodness. 00:48:11.870 --> 00:48:20.925 - So many variables. Yeah. All right, good times. What's next? Jodi, any other comments or questions before 00:48:20.925 --> 00:48:21.950 - we move on? 00:48:25.858 --> 00:48:36.026 - Well, they're not saying it's time to talk about compactors. That's my Mr. Long is here. So I guess 00:48:36.026 --> 00:48:46.602 - I said last month that Joey has reached out to service providers and manufacturers and there don't seem 00:48:46.602 --> 00:48:55.550 - to be many people that want to do service agreements on a purchased piece of equipment. 00:48:55.746 --> 00:49:03.641 - No. So when I talk to them, basically they're going to charge us some calorie rate no matter what. And 00:49:03.641 --> 00:49:11.307 - they wouldn't give it to me because it could change. And there's no long-term service agreement and 00:49:11.307 --> 00:49:19.126 - a lot of them doesn't do like routine maintenance after their three-year plan. So it's just, it would 00:49:19.126 --> 00:49:21.502 - be parts of labor at our cost. 00:49:21.890 --> 00:49:28.295 - And the three-year plan would be the warranty period on the piece of equipment. And I do have that also. 00:49:28.295 --> 00:49:34.640 - It changes quite a bit in three years. So during the three-year warranty period, we would get some free 00:49:34.640 --> 00:49:40.862 - service? We would get personal area the first year, I believe what it is. Let me find that real fast. 00:49:59.906 --> 00:50:09.061 - It was parts of labor then the second year it would drop down to so much a percentage of the park and 00:50:09.061 --> 00:50:18.127 - percentage of labor. That was just the third year was we paid all of the labor and percentage of the 00:50:18.127 --> 00:50:26.654 - park. And nobody would give me any price because nobody can say what park is going to go down. 00:50:36.578 --> 00:50:44.771 - but after three years and this is this is on a purchased yes on purchase okay and then after three years 00:50:44.771 --> 00:50:52.574 - you're just like out of luck okay after three years we would be paying them for routine maintenance 00:50:52.574 --> 00:51:00.610 - or not routine maintenance they don't offer that any scheduled thing that we would need repaired would 00:51:00.610 --> 00:51:05.214 - be at a charge plus parts and so there would be no benefit 00:51:06.018 --> 00:51:12.684 - to having some kind of service agreement, because we would pay the same hourly rate in parts. Yeah. 00:51:12.684 --> 00:51:19.349 - Now, nobody actually sent me one. Again, it's kind of like we, I looked into what we currently have 00:51:19.349 --> 00:51:26.348 - through Evander and asked them what are the costs for this. They gave me the prize. They gave me a three 00:51:26.348 --> 00:51:33.147 - year service or three year warranty on that. Nobody would give me like a lease agreement, but some do 00:51:33.147 --> 00:51:34.014 - under lease. 00:51:34.114 --> 00:51:41.505 - Offer reaching maintenance like raising this idea. Preventative maintenance, but if they got to replace 00:51:41.505 --> 00:51:48.612 - a part and it's out of warranty. Yeah. And that's for leasing as well as or that just buying nobody 00:51:48.612 --> 00:51:55.860 - that's preventing maintenance. I've got a reason I don't say nobody. There might be somebody from but 00:51:55.860 --> 00:52:03.038 - the ones I've reached out to that we've currently dealt with didn't offer that. OK, so with leasing. 00:52:03.554 --> 00:52:09.801 - What is the leasing period before you can say, hey, I need a whole new one, please. The one that we 00:52:09.801 --> 00:52:16.047 - did talk to told us they don't like to go out seven years because at seven years, that's when stuff 00:52:16.047 --> 00:52:22.419 - starts to wear out. So every six to seven years, they want to replace them. So if you buy one, if you 00:52:22.419 --> 00:52:28.478 - go on that same thing, we're looking at six to seven years before we start having major repairs. 00:52:32.034 --> 00:52:39.273 - Placing it after six or seven years means we would just enter into a new service agreement. If we lease 00:52:39.273 --> 00:52:46.790 - it, yeah, we'd have to. Well, based on what that company said, we would enter into a new leasing agreement, 00:52:46.790 --> 00:52:54.028 - a new piece of equipment. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the current lease agreement, as far as 30 years old, they 00:52:54.028 --> 00:53:01.406 - just keep resigning the same lease. Yeah, but I mean, that's a bad deal. I mean, yeah, I'm not impressed. 00:53:01.666 --> 00:53:12.776 - Yeah, we've had one contractor down last week for three or four days before we could get it worked on. 00:53:12.776 --> 00:53:23.885 - So do you think that there's any benefit in purchasing these outright? If you're looking at a lifespan 00:53:23.885 --> 00:53:26.366 - of under 10 years, no. 00:53:32.162 --> 00:53:40.385 - They still build them like they used to. I mean, how realistic is the seven years? Is that just basically 00:53:40.385 --> 00:53:48.686 - they have to cover their bases? Well, again, that was a company that leases these things. So they probably 00:53:48.686 --> 00:53:56.677 - have set seven years as their point at which their costs to maintain the equipment start to impact the 00:53:56.677 --> 00:54:00.478 - cost benefit of leasing that piece of equipment. 00:54:06.050 --> 00:54:14.737 - Yeah, I think the fact that they would want to be changing out the container after seven years says 00:54:14.737 --> 00:54:23.946 - two things. First of all, yay for us. And second of all, that's probably, like you said, they're breaking 00:54:23.946 --> 00:54:32.286 - their switch over point for how it benefits them. So they've done the math. Well, it's probably 00:54:33.250 --> 00:54:40.284 - If that's their switching point, their cost-benefit analysis for the vendor who's leasing it, that probably 00:54:40.284 --> 00:54:46.862 - matches up to what it would be for us with the pain of having one down and calling them, whatever. I 00:54:46.862 --> 00:54:53.765 - can't remember if we've talked about this before, but I think a couple of times on our current equipment, 00:54:53.765 --> 00:55:00.734 - we have run into issues where it's old enough they can't find the part. I remember you talking about that. 00:55:00.994 --> 00:55:10.323 - We had one down for, I think, like, three months while they sent the part off to be completely rebuilt 00:55:10.323 --> 00:55:19.652 - and sent back to us. I would be so upset. This is not cool, man. I mean, we're leasing it, right? It's 00:55:19.652 --> 00:55:25.630 - not ours. Are you saying we should have replaced these years ago? 00:55:26.018 --> 00:55:33.463 - We're saying no, I'm saying that the company should under the lease by having equipment looking 24 seven 00:55:33.463 --> 00:55:40.766 - all the time. That's what that's why you lease, you know, well. So it was my impression that. It's not 00:55:40.766 --> 00:55:47.927 - possible to get a service where they take care of everything under the lease payments, right? You're 00:55:47.927 --> 00:55:54.238 - always going to pay something for them to come out well, and if you're paying something, 00:55:54.562 --> 00:56:01.018 - They should have an extra one in tow as they arrive to switch out while yours is down. That's one of 00:56:01.018 --> 00:56:07.410 - the problem is that they don't make parts for these things anymore. They can't. They can't have one 00:56:07.410 --> 00:56:13.802 - on the show because you can't go get it. Well, they can bring us a new one. I mean, it's like, yes, 00:56:13.802 --> 00:56:20.194 - I understand what you're saying. The car repair place gives you a loaner for the day and it happens 00:56:20.194 --> 00:56:23.518 - to be nicer than my car. Like yay for me! You know? 00:56:23.746 --> 00:56:31.571 - Sorry. Doing a loaner on one of these is quite an undertaking. Yes, I sure it is. I just have issues 00:56:31.571 --> 00:56:39.706 - apparently. No, I get what you're saying. I don't disagree with you, but this is not as simple as saying 00:56:39.706 --> 00:56:47.996 - here's the keys, we'll call you in your car. Everything should be that easy. So under the lease agreement, 00:56:47.996 --> 00:56:51.870 - we don't get the benefits of the warranty, right? 00:56:52.354 --> 00:56:58.182 - We don't get the year one, they pay for parts of labor, year two they pay for. Well, I didn't, again, 00:56:58.182 --> 00:57:03.952 - so with, so with leasing, we have a little bit more options on what the machine can do. And I'm sure 00:57:03.952 --> 00:57:09.666 - there's, with buying there is too, but with leasing, you know, we would have to sit down and figure 00:57:09.666 --> 00:57:15.722 - out what we want the contractor to do. Cause there's so much it will do now that ours has, is not capable 00:57:15.722 --> 00:57:21.950 - of that, you know, I'm sure they will put together, you know, based on what we're getting an agreement with, 00:57:22.242 --> 00:57:29.250 - you know, what's covered and not covered under the current lease agreement. And it may also depend on, 00:57:29.250 --> 00:57:36.054 - you know, are the units that were leasing brand new or are they a year old or, you know, where did, 00:57:36.054 --> 00:57:42.721 - you know, where did the, and some of this obviously it can be discussed and negotiated, you know, 00:57:42.721 --> 00:57:49.933 - you know, when you do an RFP or whatever. And, but, you know, where, where is the leasing company getting 00:57:49.933 --> 00:57:51.294 - the equipment from? 00:57:52.322 --> 00:58:01.837 - Is it brand new? Is it was it in service for a year to place the shutdown? I think I think I think these 00:58:01.837 --> 00:58:11.171 - things are the ones where people were talking to these things are made here. OK, that's good. I didn't 00:58:11.171 --> 00:58:21.502 - make it in the Midwest. That sounds like we need to. Explore these same options. And then you're you're thinking. 00:58:21.986 --> 00:58:32.226 - of, I can't remember how many to start, because it can be lovely because it's 15, but. Well, we'll need 00:58:32.226 --> 00:58:42.270 - to issue an RFP, because I want them all under one peace agreement, even if they're not in service at 00:58:42.270 --> 00:58:51.230 - the same time. The situation that we're in now is that they were not done under a bid RFP. 00:58:51.778 --> 00:58:59.019 - We're gonna put two in here and then we're gonna put two in over here and one in over here. So we need 00:58:59.019 --> 00:59:06.049 - to go look at the current leasing agreements and those terms and find out when they expire. I think 00:59:06.049 --> 00:59:13.360 - we'd have to give six months notice to terminate one of them. And I mean, they're all kind of in annual 00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:19.758 - one year renewal period, but once we enter that period, we're subject to that either 90 or 00:59:19.758 --> 00:59:21.726 - 180 day termination notice. 00:59:22.370 --> 00:59:32.236 - And that's something that would have to be explained and built into the RFP that we want 15 units under 00:59:32.236 --> 00:59:41.912 - one lease. And, you know, and we're going to have two installed by this date, three installed by this 00:59:41.912 --> 00:59:52.158 - date. That's fun. Yeah, that's going to be complicated. So is that something you can work on the RFP? Yeah. 00:59:53.602 --> 01:00:06.543 - And it will be ready tomorrow. Should we vote on that as an executive committee to whether or not we 01:00:06.543 --> 01:00:20.638 - want them to go ahead and prepare an RFP for leasing? We talked about this with the full board. I don't know. 01:00:21.698 --> 01:00:29.265 - I don't know, it was the containers we talked about. I don't think that there's any miscellaneous action 01:00:29.265 --> 01:00:36.544 - needed by the executive committee. I'll check with legal. I honestly don't know. I think staff could 01:00:36.544 --> 01:00:43.751 - take it upon itself to issue a request for bid or request for proposal. If the board's unhappy with 01:00:43.751 --> 01:00:51.678 - it, you just reject everything when we bring it to you. I don't know that there's necessarily any requirement 01:00:52.002 --> 01:00:59.116 - legally for the board to direct staff to issue a request for bid or request for proposal. Obviously, 01:00:59.116 --> 01:01:06.231 - doing so gives the prospective bidders the assurance that, yep, they're serious about moving forward 01:01:06.231 --> 01:01:13.415 - with this. Well, wouldn't it be helpful to at least have the executive committee give the green light 01:01:13.415 --> 01:01:19.966 - for you to go ahead? And we don't have to do that with a formal bill. We could just do that. 01:01:20.130 --> 01:01:34.426 - We can make a second census thing, yeah. If that's the committee's wish. Now you're making it formal. 01:01:34.426 --> 01:01:48.862 - That's fine. I move that we authorize and encourage our staff to create an RFP that reflects the terms 01:01:49.730 --> 01:02:02.719 - or container flash compactor compactor replacement and maintenance that meets our future needs as they 01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:15.582 - see fit. Is there a second? I'll second. As chair, I try not to make much haste. I think I'm on that. 01:02:20.386 --> 01:02:30.561 - Any more discussion before we vote? Please call the roll. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion passes unanimous. 01:02:30.561 --> 01:02:41.360 - All right. Could just give us an update at the next meeting whether you're ready with that or not ready 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:47.486 - with it or just keep us in the loop. Please and thank you. 01:02:49.250 --> 01:03:00.954 - After I was just told, have fun with that. I was trying. Alright, next we have the Indiana Materials 01:03:00.954 --> 01:03:12.774 - Management Plan update. Yeah, so. I want to put it on there, but I had. I had a phone discussion with 01:03:12.774 --> 01:03:16.830 - Pamela Guerrero, who is with item. 01:03:17.826 --> 01:03:28.337 - is kind of in charge of all this implementing the SWFRA grants, capacity grants from the EPA that Adam 01:03:28.337 --> 01:03:38.747 - has. And this program did attend a webinar on the grant application process. We do have somebody from 01:03:38.747 --> 01:03:45.278 - IM scheduled to come to the associations conference in October. 01:03:45.858 --> 01:03:54.844 - to the grant application period will have expired by then, but to talk about, you know, developing your 01:03:54.844 --> 01:04:03.572 - plan and, you know, what the state's materials management plan is kind of directing localities to do 01:04:03.572 --> 01:04:12.990 - as they develop their plan, I guess would be a way to put it. But so at any rate, things are moving forward. 01:04:13.570 --> 01:04:23.719 - A snag that I have run into, because this is an EPA federal pass-through grant, you need a UEI number, 01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:34.163 - a unique entity identifier from the federal government, and a CAGE number, C-H-E-E, both from the federal 01:04:34.163 --> 01:04:39.582 - government, which the district has under its old name. 01:04:40.034 --> 01:04:48.401 - associated with employee names who I have no idea where they are or how to get a hold of. So I have 01:04:48.401 --> 01:04:56.934 - probably spent more time than I should trying to track that down and get them to acknowledge our name 01:04:56.934 --> 01:05:05.468 - change documentation. Interestingly enough, the federal government will not accept an acknowledgement 01:05:05.468 --> 01:05:08.062 - from the IRS of a name change. 01:05:10.050 --> 01:05:17.907 - They want it from the Secretary of State. We're not required to register with the Secretary of State 01:05:17.907 --> 01:05:25.764 - because we're a government entity. So that's been a round and round process. It was mentioned at the 01:05:25.764 --> 01:05:33.699 - last board meeting, or I guess question, do we need funding assistance? We wrote our last plan update 01:05:33.699 --> 01:05:37.278 - on our own. So one thing that didn't come out 01:05:37.570 --> 01:05:45.596 - And the grant application process was a timeline where the grant applications are due September the 01:05:45.596 --> 01:05:53.702 - 14th. I didn't expect to make an award of the grant. I think December the 15th. And then was looking 01:05:53.702 --> 01:06:01.246 - at an 18 month implementation window. Wait a minute. The grants are due on the 14th and item. 01:06:01.506 --> 01:06:09.414 - We'll make awards the next day, December 5th, December. OK, maybe I'm sorry. Maybe I left December. 01:06:09.414 --> 01:06:17.481 - I was like, well, don't put a whole lot of effort and they're clearly not going to. But you know, but 01:06:17.481 --> 01:06:25.705 - given given that we're from where we are today, looking at basically a 20 month window for the district 01:06:25.705 --> 01:06:26.654 - to develop. 01:06:26.754 --> 01:06:35.826 - the board to approve and to start implementing aspects of the materials management plan, I don't know 01:06:35.826 --> 01:06:44.987 - that we need something. Or if we do, it might be for bits and pieces over here as we get into actually 01:06:44.987 --> 01:06:54.326 - developing the plan and instead of pursuing $20,000 grant that's gonna require $20,000 of matching funds 01:06:54.326 --> 01:06:56.638 - or in-kind contributions, 01:06:57.954 --> 01:07:05.714 - you know, we should, we could start working on this on our own and then, you know, oh, we need help 01:07:05.714 --> 01:07:13.475 - here. So for $5,000, we can get that done. You know. It's so frustrating that like the presentation 01:07:13.475 --> 01:07:21.546 - that item is going to give at the association conference is until October and yet the grant application 01:07:21.546 --> 01:07:26.590 - is September. So we don't really know what they want yet, right? 01:07:26.786 --> 01:07:34.426 - No, no, they do. That's me. And that's and that's there was a webinar. Even a week and a half ago now 01:07:34.426 --> 01:07:41.917 - on the grant application process, kind of that I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about. Do we 01:07:41.917 --> 01:07:49.707 - understand what's needed for the new plan? Yeah, there's yeah, there's a very good general idea because 01:07:49.707 --> 01:07:55.550 - the state has issued their materials management plan and and your local plan. 01:07:55.970 --> 01:08:03.511 - is supposed to incorporate the goals and objectives of the state plan at a local level with more detail 01:08:03.511 --> 01:08:10.980 - about what you're going to do locally to actually achieve those. The state doesn't really get into how 01:08:10.980 --> 01:08:18.376 - we're going to achieve this stuff. They left that to the local. So incorporate the goals of the state 01:08:18.376 --> 01:08:24.830 - plan and explain how we're going to achieve them. Yeah. So they're going to, in October, 01:08:25.090 --> 01:08:33.522 - And then I said that, you know, they're what they said at the webinar regarding the application process 01:08:33.522 --> 01:08:41.630 - was that it was December 14 or 15. They plan to announce awards. And then at that point, there's an 01:08:41.630 --> 01:08:45.278 - 18, they're looking at an 18 month timeline. 01:08:45.570 --> 01:08:52.963 - option and implementation exactly for ones that are using grant money or is that like is there an expectation 01:08:52.963 --> 01:08:59.886 - of a timeline here not in the grant cycle that wasn't specified but i don't know how they can give put 01:08:59.886 --> 01:09:06.675 - a different expectation on somebody just because they did or didn't receive funding yeah so probably 01:09:06.675 --> 01:09:14.270 - we're looking i mean if the deadline for implementation is june 1st 2028 but that's what it is it doesn't really 01:09:15.906 --> 01:09:24.475 - Well, it could be that the funding cycle is an 18 month. It's an 18 month grant. No, they said they 01:09:24.475 --> 01:09:33.044 - said implementation adoption and that's 18 months to adoption and implementation. That was the word 01:09:33.044 --> 01:09:41.013 - from December 15th. Yeah, they said grant award. Semper 15. And then 18 months. For adoption 01:09:41.013 --> 01:09:45.726 - and implementation. And what does implementation mean? 01:09:47.202 --> 01:09:54.513 - Well, if your plan says that, you know, by such and such a date, you know, we're gonna open a public 01:09:54.513 --> 01:10:02.402 - composting facility. So, well, you need to at least have the plan in place for what the timeline established 01:10:02.402 --> 01:10:10.002 - for here's the steps to get that facility opened and when we expect it to be open. Doesn't mean it needs 01:10:10.002 --> 01:10:16.734 - to be open at 18 months. That just means you need to start putting into place or to practice 01:10:17.346 --> 01:10:25.665 - what you outlined is gonna take to get that facility open. Am I making sense? Yeah, I mean, it seems 01:10:25.665 --> 01:10:34.477 - kind of subjective. I just- Yes, this is how it all is with them. It just drives me crazy that, so they're 01:10:34.477 --> 01:10:42.878 - giving $20,000 grants so that we can do a bunch of paperwork for them instead of giving us $20,000 to 01:10:42.878 --> 01:10:47.326 - actually reduce waste. Yeah, and there has been some, 01:10:48.578 --> 01:10:55.469 - I guess right being heartache over that, that they're, you know, the, the, the Swiffer grant funds and 01:10:55.469 --> 01:11:02.359 - what are eligible expenses under those funds. It's basically here's, here's money to hire a consultant 01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:09.116 - to do this for you. That's basically what it is. Oh yeah. You can't, you can't take this money to go 01:11:09.116 --> 01:11:15.940 - buy, you know, a compactor or, or, or a windrow turner for the compost facility. This is the Swiffer. 01:11:15.940 --> 01:11:17.278 - That's the federal. 01:11:17.986 --> 01:11:33.919 - I don't know if the Swiffer. I thought it was something to clean floors. Solid waste infrastructure. 01:11:33.919 --> 01:11:45.278 - Solid waste infrastructure for recycling. That's what SWIFR stands for. 01:11:45.378 --> 01:11:51.487 - And that's something that later opportunities to apply for money. Well, there will. This is 01:11:51.487 --> 01:11:58.593 - an EPA pass-through grant that is doing federal funds available. This has, you know, this to my knowledge, 01:11:58.593 --> 01:12:05.233 - this isn't going to have any impact or change anything with regard to the annual waste tire grants, 01:12:05.233 --> 01:12:10.878 - recycling market development grants and stuff that IDEM is already doing every year. 01:12:11.234 --> 01:12:18.861 - You know, but so if you had this plan in place, you know, with a stated goal and the process to achieve 01:12:18.861 --> 01:12:26.561 - that goal that requires purchasing equipment or something, then you go pursue one of those annual grants 01:12:26.561 --> 01:12:34.114 - that they do every year and say, hey, we want help doing this. It has to be in the plan. It has to be. 01:12:34.114 --> 01:12:39.614 - Yeah, because private entities are eligible for some of those grants, too. 01:12:39.714 --> 01:12:46.891 - But having the MMP in place with, here's our goal, here's our process, we need to buy this. And it's 01:12:46.891 --> 01:12:54.139 - a one-for-one match? Is that what you were talking about? Oh, right, yeah. The recycling market, that 01:12:54.139 --> 01:13:01.672 - I have to look at. Oh, the SWIFT program? Yeah, I have to look. I don't know that it was exactly, because 01:13:01.672 --> 01:13:05.438 - I think it can be cash or in kind or in combination. 01:13:06.498 --> 01:13:15.307 - Does it have to be, you said 20,000, does it have to? That's the maximum. Maximum. So we could do a 01:13:15.307 --> 01:13:24.556 - 10,000. We could. Or a 5,000. And just pull in someone to facilitate or. And that's the other, you know, 01:13:24.556 --> 01:13:34.334 - the other thing in all of this is, you know, there's 72 solid waste districts. How many counties, 72 counties? 01:13:34.498 --> 01:13:48.556 - 92. How many municipalities? A lot. Every one of them is eligible for this grant. If they give out $20,000 01:13:48.556 --> 01:13:56.702 - grants, they have enough money for 18. And we have two weeks. 01:13:57.794 --> 01:14:05.871 - Yeah, I just don't think it's worth. We had like five weeks from when all this was announced, but I 01:14:05.871 --> 01:14:14.190 - got stuck in this loop trying to figure out this UI and cage. So my my my thought is that we don't put 01:14:14.190 --> 01:14:22.509 - effort into this grant right now. It seems as though. If we've done this before and our budget is such 01:14:22.509 --> 01:14:27.678 - that if we needed something, we can probably find alternatives. 01:14:28.162 --> 01:14:35.070 - I agree that I don't I. But I would, of course, I'm tired of banging my head against the wall with the 01:14:35.070 --> 01:14:41.844 - federal government. Unfortunately, I would encourage you to continue. I know we need that effort. It 01:14:41.844 --> 01:14:48.751 - is something that those numbers in place for future purposes that would make sense to get figured out, 01:14:48.751 --> 01:14:55.659 - but not under time. Right? Yeah, I agree with Kate. I don't think it's worse trying to scramble to get 01:14:55.659 --> 01:14:57.470 - this grant application in. 01:14:58.882 --> 01:15:07.678 - Yeah, I agree. I think that's it's it's too much of a time crunch and too much to. Too much to do in 01:15:07.678 --> 01:15:16.649 - a short period of time to ensure it's done right and they're giving us adequate time to develop a plan 01:15:16.649 --> 01:15:24.574 - and get things supplemented and we we've done before. I can delegate to Joey again, is it? 01:15:24.834 --> 01:15:36.324 - Is it substantially, are there substantially different requirements from the plan that you've done before? 01:15:36.324 --> 01:15:47.384 - Yes and no. It's written from a different perspective. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, because 01:15:47.384 --> 01:15:54.686 - the Materials Management Plan really places a focus and an emphasis 01:15:54.818 --> 01:16:06.806 - on dealing with organics and waste diversion and reuse. I like the MMP better than I like the solid 01:16:06.806 --> 01:16:19.154 - waste management plan the state had that we've had before with regard to trying to pursue our mission. 01:16:19.154 --> 01:16:23.230 - So in that sense, it's different. 01:16:24.450 --> 01:16:33.103 - You know, as far as outlining what you're going to do to help the state achieve this 50% recycling goal, 01:16:33.103 --> 01:16:41.509 - you know, to divert organics from the waste stream. That's the same. Okay. Jodi, are you in agreement 01:16:41.509 --> 01:16:50.244 - that it's not worth pursuing the grant? Sorry. Yes, I was blowing my nose and I had a bit of a nosebleed. 01:16:50.244 --> 01:16:52.222 - Yes, I agree with that. 01:16:52.802 --> 01:17:02.803 - Yeah, I think it takes a lot of resources and it's a short turnaround. All right. Unfortunately, I would 01:17:02.803 --> 01:17:12.994 - have liked to. I mean, I love the idea. I always love the idea of more money. Yeah. I think the consultant 01:17:12.994 --> 01:17:21.566 - lobby, they have had something to do with. Well, I have also spoken with the company that 01:17:22.594 --> 01:17:33.347 - develop the state's plan. Wanting to know, we wanted help with our plan. Yeah, I'm sure they're reaching 01:17:33.347 --> 01:17:44.509 - out to everybody. Funny how they're thinking. All righty. So next we have all other items deemed appropriate 01:17:44.509 --> 01:17:52.190 - for Executive Committee deliberation. Is there anything else? Don did have 01:17:52.322 --> 01:18:04.060 - An idea for presenting claims. To the board, it would be a little more similar to go through for the 01:18:04.060 --> 01:18:16.264 - board to go through and in essence would be one document that would list all of the claims. In the board 01:18:16.264 --> 01:18:19.518 - packet, which would reduce. 01:18:19.746 --> 01:18:33.408 - the amount of pages that that is in the packet. Jody, I'm sorry. I don't know if you can. I can photograph 01:18:33.408 --> 01:18:46.942 - it. That's good. John put this together as an example, and I think he and I talked and both realized that 01:18:47.810 --> 01:18:55.853 - It might not have all the information that you would want in here, but this is a simple spreadsheet. 01:18:55.853 --> 01:19:03.976 - We can add rows and columns. It's a starting point. Yeah. If it's something that you think would work 01:19:03.976 --> 01:19:12.019 - for the board, then let us know what additional information for a claim. Do you want the description 01:19:12.019 --> 01:19:16.478 - that you see? Yeah. Do you want to see invoice numbers? 01:19:16.578 --> 01:19:24.978 - Do you know, do you want us? It's just, you know, what type of additional information would you want 01:19:24.978 --> 01:19:33.294 - in there? If this is something we want to see if the board wants to use. I think it would be really 01:19:33.294 --> 01:19:40.862 - helpful to indicate which ones were approved. Resolution and board by under resolution 22. 01:19:41.154 --> 01:19:48.400 - Whatever it is, that could be done. I figured I'll just list everything in the starting point and we 01:19:48.400 --> 01:19:55.790 - can talk about it and make it better. Yeah, because that way, like since I approved the weekly emails, 01:19:55.790 --> 01:20:03.109 - I can just. Focus on the ones that I have not looked at yet. Or, you know, and maybe we. Color coding 01:20:03.109 --> 01:20:09.566 - color coding or or we could we could break it into two. Here's the board approved claims. 01:20:09.730 --> 01:20:16.198 - Here's the resolution of route times. That would be very easy to do. That would probably be the best, 01:20:16.198 --> 01:20:22.920 - yeah. And you like this nonsense. And maybe, I mean, if there's a category that's already in place rather 01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:29.514 - than an explanation, I don't know which is easier. Because I don't need to know exactly what you bought 01:20:29.514 --> 01:20:36.490 - at Kleindorfers, but you know. Yeah, I mean, the category that we would have would be the name or description 01:20:36.490 --> 01:20:37.758 - of the budget line. 01:20:38.338 --> 01:20:49.769 - that it was paid too much. But in some cases, there's going to be other professional services or other 01:20:49.769 --> 01:21:01.088 - supplies. You know, gas, water, and electric are pretty cut and dry. But some of the other things get 01:21:01.088 --> 01:21:06.526 - a little broad and general in their description. 01:21:06.658 --> 01:21:15.594 - If you like the concept, we can see when we process the claims, it can be done at that time. And this 01:21:15.594 --> 01:21:24.618 - was done really quickly to get something so you can kind of look at it in the concept. But if you like 01:21:24.618 --> 01:21:32.766 - the concept, then the spreadsheet could be done as we go along with each claim like we know. 01:21:33.634 --> 01:21:40.208 - Certain things are in certain categories that that's when we that's what I was doing. It wouldn't take 01:21:40.208 --> 01:21:47.228 - all that much additional time to make this up as we go along and then it would be in the different categories 01:21:47.228 --> 01:21:53.866 - that you would like. So. So I remember what I was going to say. So I think we should add a column. With 01:21:53.866 --> 01:21:58.078 - either invoice number or a docket number or something so that if. 01:21:58.210 --> 01:22:06.579 - A board member says, I want to know more about this sound management LLC on eight seven. Then you would 01:22:06.579 --> 01:22:15.190 - have a number to look up that item and I'll squeeze as many things as I can. Now we can do it in landscape 01:22:15.190 --> 01:22:23.640 - rather than in portrait is that way there would be more. There's more things we could get in the column. 01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:27.422 - Do you need an invoice number to look this up? 01:22:27.522 --> 01:22:38.874 - look up if someone wanted to? Is that like the single point of differentiation? I think the system makes 01:22:38.874 --> 01:22:50.226 - us put an invoice number in, because that's how it helps to track. It won't let you pay the same invoice 01:22:50.226 --> 01:22:54.334 - number twice. It's not built in safe. 01:22:54.658 --> 01:23:02.965 - John and I have talked, and I think if he becomes more settled in and more familiar with everything, 01:23:02.965 --> 01:23:11.683 - I don't think that we have so many claims in a given month that if you ask me what it is, somebody should 01:23:11.683 --> 01:23:20.894 - be able to tell you. We don't need to go look it up. We don't have thousands of claims a month. $1.74 at wonky? 01:23:21.442 --> 01:23:28.313 - That's for illegal dumping. And I don't quite understand this, but they've told me, the staff have told 01:23:28.313 --> 01:23:35.119 - me that when there's a legal dumping, somebody has to go pick it up. And then Romkey, I don't mean the 01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:41.924 - staff has to go pick it up, Romkey has to go pick it up. And then they charge us for that. That's what 01:23:41.924 --> 01:23:45.822 - our compliance department does. And then Romkey, you know, 01:23:45.954 --> 01:23:54.673 - Again, $50 a ton is their rate, and we take 100 pounds against the scale. They prorate it all the way 01:23:54.673 --> 01:24:03.306 - down to 100 pounds. That's awesome. I love it. I know that... Don't try again. I know that a lot can 01:24:03.306 --> 01:24:11.854 - be a bit difficult to interpret and read, so that's why I thought of something like this, because I 01:24:11.854 --> 01:24:15.102 - use this type of approach in my other 01:24:15.458 --> 01:24:22.980 - So I know being able to see information at a glance and interpret it in a way that is very double and 01:24:22.980 --> 01:24:30.575 - you can't really do that without too many things you have to look through. The other part of that too, 01:24:30.575 --> 01:24:38.023 - even if we needed an invoice number, we're not going to be able to look that up for you at the board 01:24:38.023 --> 01:24:44.734 - meeting because I can't remotely access the accounting software. Okay. Pack right rentals. 01:24:45.026 --> 01:24:53.489 - This is what you like to see and that's for. Well, and I'll write it down and we'll get this going for 01:24:53.489 --> 01:25:01.706 - you. Okay. And what's number? Well, actually, Tom has dissuaded us from. Yeah, I guess when I asked 01:25:01.706 --> 01:25:06.718 - you about what should be on here, don't think about it from. 01:25:07.074 --> 01:25:15.504 - Staff, what's going to help the board? It's the questions like this. Like, what are you spending? It's 01:25:15.504 --> 01:25:23.853 - curious. I don't know if I need to know this, but for one thing, what does that date mean? We need to 01:25:23.853 --> 01:25:31.710 - put headings on there. Yeah. Does that mean the date was paid? But that's one thing. And we do, 01:25:31.710 --> 01:25:35.966 - you know, and what you're used to seeing and we can 01:25:36.194 --> 01:25:43.415 - We need to add on here, you know, are those brief notes or descriptions about, you know, here I'll help 01:25:43.415 --> 01:25:50.497 - you out, curing environmental and smoke detectors. You said $700 on smoke detectors? Yeah, that's for 01:25:50.497 --> 01:25:57.857 - about $600 of them. So you like all the cons that are there? I think we bought six containers. We average 01:25:57.857 --> 01:26:03.550 - $100 per container. And that's the container and the recycling fees and shipping. 01:26:04.130 --> 01:26:12.152 - for all six. So we can we can add those and those are on those little types of descriptions are on the 01:26:12.152 --> 01:26:20.329 - current dockets. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Great. I think adding a description of exactly what it was description 01:26:20.329 --> 01:26:26.014 - of what it is. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not limited liability. I don't know. 01:26:28.002 --> 01:26:34.042 - The work syntax limited liability. So that's for sharks container. That's kind of get rid of our bar. 01:26:34.042 --> 01:26:40.023 - Sure. And just showing some leverage. We're just into a squeeze package about we've sent talks. See, 01:26:40.023 --> 01:26:46.123 - this is going to be such a great learning experience. I love it because I would ask about every single 01:26:46.123 --> 01:26:47.070 - one except that 01:26:47.650 --> 01:26:55.749 - I try not to be myself. Most most if not all of this stuff is already there. It's just it's just this 01:26:55.749 --> 01:27:04.086 - is much easier to go through and ask questions than all the individual docket sheets that are, you know, 01:27:04.086 --> 01:27:12.106 - they have much smaller print. And well, and that's another thing. So the German American line that's 01:27:12.106 --> 01:27:15.838 - going to have any credit card payments, right? 01:27:16.034 --> 01:27:23.944 - How much is that one for? $108.06. Yeah, that's the credit card fees that German-American charges for 01:27:23.944 --> 01:27:31.777 - us having credit cards. Yeah, that's the processing fees. The processing fees. For how, for a month? 01:27:31.777 --> 01:27:39.765 - For a month, yes. Why? We pay $198 a month for using a credit card? See, that's why at our Home Office 01:27:39.765 --> 01:27:44.030 - Association we don't offer credit cards, because I was 01:27:44.226 --> 01:27:51.587 - I know there's going to be all these feet and I said, no, we'll just say credit card. That was all we 01:27:51.587 --> 01:27:58.804 - don't take credit cards. I'll look at that. Yeah, check that out. The business has no choice really 01:27:58.804 --> 01:28:06.238 - but to take credit cards. That seems like a lot. Well, I thought they wouldn't have to, but then there 01:28:06.238 --> 01:28:13.022 - wouldn't get as much business either. And then if we're going to move to this, then you know, 01:28:13.314 --> 01:28:21.683 - The question that John said, that he can do this every time. We can do this weekly, right? Yeah, we 01:28:21.683 --> 01:28:30.304 - can do it every time. We place the docket sheets that you're currently seeing, if that's what you want 01:28:30.304 --> 01:28:38.841 - to do. Is this in an Excel spreadsheet? No, but does this require you to retype everything? Well, let 01:28:38.841 --> 01:28:42.942 - me put it this way. That is what I did for this, 01:28:43.490 --> 01:28:50.654 - August, and to do another one for September, we would have to retype all these every month, because 01:28:50.654 --> 01:28:57.819 - the spreadsheet isn't going to be just a generic one that we use and re-change as we go through it. 01:28:57.819 --> 01:29:05.413 - But maybe we could do it that way, but I think it would be easier to just do it every month as a separate 01:29:05.413 --> 01:29:13.150 - spreadsheet, and then we would save it. Well, you could do sheets with an Excel. I can also show John, too. 01:29:13.282 --> 01:29:21.070 - you can take the bundles that you're used to seeing and you can export those into a spreadsheet and 01:29:21.070 --> 01:29:29.170 - then you can just start copying and pasting and deleting headings that are in there that you don't need 01:29:29.170 --> 01:29:37.504 - because it will be multiple headings that confused you. I tried to understand. So yeah, I'm just concerned 01:29:37.504 --> 01:29:42.878 - of human error and you know with the numbers. So if there's a way to 01:29:43.426 --> 01:29:52.150 - import from or export from there's ways to. Yeah, I know, John. And we can also nature that we can also 01:29:52.150 --> 01:30:00.790 - set the spreadsheets to automatic, you know, to automatically some whatever's put in and then you just 01:30:00.790 --> 01:30:04.062 - match. Does this match well okay then. 01:30:04.386 --> 01:30:11.285 - So you don't have to help anybody. I don't claim to be an expert at Microsoft Excel. I know the basic 01:30:11.285 --> 01:30:18.184 - Excel when I did that on Excel and I added it up on Excel and put it in the cell, but I don't plan to 01:30:18.184 --> 01:30:25.287 - be in the advanced level, so some of that stuff I just don't know how to do. I don't think we need pivot 01:30:25.287 --> 01:30:29.886 - tables. No, John, we can. We can talk about, you know, all of this, 01:30:30.434 --> 01:30:36.367 - What sounds complicated now is once you set the spreadsheet up once, you're done. Then you just delete 01:30:36.367 --> 01:30:42.128 - the data and put the new data in. Oh, okay. Well, I would save it for months to come. You make your 01:30:42.128 --> 01:30:47.946 - copy and then you delete everything out and then put it on the newspaper. But I'm delighted that you 01:30:47.946 --> 01:30:53.879 - even considered letting me do that because I felt that you could, just like right now, you didn't know 01:30:53.879 --> 01:30:56.702 - before the German-American charges, almost $200. 01:30:57.154 --> 01:31:04.123 - The credit card, and now you can read it on your hands. I understand things. I appreciate it. Something 01:31:04.123 --> 01:31:11.026 - else you're in American Charges for that you'll see on the record is a $40 processing fee, and I'm not 01:31:11.026 --> 01:31:17.861 - really sure what that is. It's a treasury management fee. Never really understood exactly what it is, 01:31:17.861 --> 01:31:24.563 - because the previous bank didn't do it, but the previous bank wasn't giving us thousands of dollars 01:31:24.563 --> 01:31:26.238 - in interest every month. 01:31:26.818 --> 01:31:34.723 - So it's 40 bucks to gain 10,000. That's fine with me. OK, yeah. Alright, I would like to wrap up this 01:31:34.723 --> 01:31:42.784 - meeting as we all have other things to get to you. But thank you John and we will go forward with this. 01:31:42.784 --> 01:31:51.154 - Yeah, thank you. We'll play with it and get the extra information set up and we'll try to just put together 01:31:51.154 --> 01:31:55.262 - a template that you can just put the information in. 01:31:55.458 --> 01:32:04.097 - I mean, I don't claim to be an expert on that, so I don't have to. So we'll get all that. Any other 01:32:04.097 --> 01:32:12.908 - items from directors or board meeting? I don't have any. So I don't think we need to have a September 01:32:12.908 --> 01:32:21.720 - board meeting or regular meeting time conflicts with county budget hearings. Is there anything urgent 01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:23.102 - coming up, Tom? 01:32:24.194 --> 01:32:31.175 - No, I mean, I mean, there's nothing on this agenda other than the board minutes that would be forwarded 01:32:31.175 --> 01:32:38.156 - to the board. In a normal circumstance, I will. As you all know that today. I got the documents we need 01:32:38.156 --> 01:32:45.070 - for that utilities resolution. Oh, by the way, they can wait a little bit. We sure waited. Yeah. Yeah. 01:32:45.070 --> 01:32:52.252 - And I told I go ahead and told them, thanks. And the board, I will have this on the agenda for the October 01:32:52.252 --> 01:32:53.662 - board meeting. Cool. 01:32:53.890 --> 01:33:05.010 - All right, so maybe we should take an official action to cancel. I move that we cancel the September 01:33:05.010 --> 01:33:16.350 - board meeting. Second. All right, Jodi, if you could come off camera to vote. One moment. Oh, that was 01:33:16.350 --> 01:33:22.846 - a little bleeding. Sorry. Sorry. You're fine. There we go. 01:33:23.010 --> 01:33:33.170 - All right, can you call the roll please, Tom? Yes. Yes. Well, yep. Motion passes unanimously. Okay, 01:33:33.170 --> 01:33:43.736 - thank you. Cancelation notice. It'll probably be Thursday, but I'm out of the office tomorrow. So we'll 01:33:43.736 --> 01:33:51.966 - get a cancellation notice. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. I don't think. 01:33:53.538 --> 01:33:56.702 - You say, that's my thing. We are jerk.