WEBVTT 00:00:05.314 --> 00:00:13.539 - All right, welcome back to My Spiritual Experience with your host, Brother Sadiq. Today, we have a new 00:00:13.539 --> 00:00:21.605 - guest, someone who I have known for a bit of time. She is a friend of my mom's, actually. So rest in 00:00:21.605 --> 00:00:29.910 - peace to my mom. And that is our original connection. And so she has had her own spiritual experiences. 00:00:29.910 --> 00:00:34.142 - Her name is Tammy Clemmons. I like to call her Tammy 00:00:34.370 --> 00:00:42.702 - TMI Clemmons because she is too much inspiration. And so yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, like, like I said, 00:00:42.702 --> 00:00:51.201 - I try to get a good gauge on the people who I have on this show, because like I said, we don't do the 00:00:51.201 --> 00:00:57.950 - crazies, but we do do the ones who are on the extreme edge of spiritual life. So 00:00:58.882 --> 00:01:04.946 - That is exciting to me. And today we have Tammy here. And so we're going to get into it here. Of course, 00:01:04.946 --> 00:01:10.953 - as we always do, it's freestyle. We move off the spirit and this is an interview so you can get to know 00:01:10.953 --> 00:01:16.671 - some of the community. I'm sure later we'll probably get into more. We'll probably do another one, 00:01:16.671 --> 00:01:22.620 - but it'll, you know, it'll be beyond the interview at that point. Okay. And so, yeah. So we have Tammy 00:01:22.620 --> 00:01:25.854 - here and I just wanted to say thank you for being here. 00:01:26.690 --> 00:01:32.661 - Well, I would like to say thank you for having me. I have been so excited for this. I just, this is 00:01:32.661 --> 00:01:38.811 - my favorite thing to talk about. And I just want to say hi to everyone and tell everybody that I'm not 00:01:38.811 --> 00:01:45.081 - trying to convince anyone of anything. I am simply sharing my experiences. And that is a wonderful thing 00:01:45.081 --> 00:01:51.111 - because that is the idea, right? To make spirituality and everyday, you know, common thing for us to 00:01:51.111 --> 00:01:53.022 - talk about at the water cooler. 00:01:53.346 --> 00:01:59.863 - Yeah, it is for me. If anybody knows me, they'll already know. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, that's the beauty 00:01:59.863 --> 00:02:06.566 - of it. You know, we have to have those people who are not uncomfortable talking about spiritual experiences 00:02:06.566 --> 00:02:12.772 - and sharing the reality of their life in relation to spirit. Right. These are just things that I've 00:02:12.772 --> 00:02:19.041 - went through that are like any other piece of my life. I just tend to hold these a little more dear, 00:02:19.041 --> 00:02:22.206 - some of them a little more dear to my heart. Yeah. 00:02:22.562 --> 00:02:29.005 - I find that most people have had some sort of spiritual experience in their life and what we generally 00:02:29.005 --> 00:02:35.449 - find with that is that people are, like you said, they hold it close to themselves. It's not something 00:02:35.449 --> 00:02:42.142 - they're just comfortable talking about generally speaking because they don't realize the value of speaking 00:02:42.946 --> 00:02:49.247 - and a lot of times I think people try to talk them out of their experiences so they're a little afraid 00:02:49.247 --> 00:02:55.365 - maybe to share they don't want people to look at them like they're you know crazy even though a lot 00:02:55.365 --> 00:03:01.605 - of these people have probably had experiences themselves and they've talked themselves out of it yeah 00:03:01.605 --> 00:03:08.150 - yeah I think we have experiences that are outside of what we're comfortable with and it's a like a defense 00:03:08.150 --> 00:03:09.374 - mechanism almost to 00:03:09.858 --> 00:03:17.044 - um say no that ain't that didn't really happen i'm just you know and remove it from your mind i think 00:03:17.044 --> 00:03:24.230 - a lot of people also are kind of indoctrinated and they're afraid of these experiences maybe like not 00:03:24.230 --> 00:03:31.134 - christian or whatever religion they happen to follow and there's such a wide array that i kind of 00:03:31.554 --> 00:03:38.273 - I've struggled with that at some points in my life. So I understand it. Um, but I've kind of went beyond 00:03:38.273 --> 00:03:44.672 - that now and said, you know what, my experiences are mine. Nobody's going to talk me out of it. I'm 00:03:44.672 --> 00:03:51.263 - going to share my experiences. Even if people think I'm crazy, I'm okay. I've been called worse. Well, 00:03:51.263 --> 00:03:57.918 - I definitely appreciate it. And, uh, I think that in the bigger scheme of things that, you know, people 00:03:57.918 --> 00:04:01.310 - like yourself are, uh, influencing others, you know, 00:04:01.506 --> 00:04:08.500 - unbeknownst to yourself maybe, right? Just by sharing, because people, like I said, I believe the spiritual 00:04:08.500 --> 00:04:14.975 - experience is way more common to the human experience than people like to talk about. But when it's 00:04:14.975 --> 00:04:21.710 - shared, more people feel more comfortable talking about it and bringing it out. And like I said, that's 00:04:21.710 --> 00:04:28.574 - the idea of the show, to make spirituality an everyday conversation, a part of our everyday life. Because 00:04:28.574 --> 00:04:31.358 - my idea is that our base itself is spirit. 00:04:31.458 --> 00:04:38.836 - This is our natural form that people are trying to take away from us and conform us into what they think 00:04:38.836 --> 00:04:45.932 - we should or should not be basically. Yeah, I mean we're like they say we are the soul or the spirit 00:04:45.932 --> 00:04:53.099 - having a physical experience and I think one of the thing that traps most people is that the physical 00:04:53.099 --> 00:04:59.774 - becomes more real and more expressive and the only part of themselves that they are willing to 00:05:00.098 --> 00:05:07.221 - you know, recognize as real. Yeah, I totally agree with that. Well, uh, I don't, I don't, I didn't mean 00:05:07.221 --> 00:05:14.755 - to cut you. No, you're fine. I lost my train of thought. It's fine. It's fine. That happens to me frequently. 00:05:14.755 --> 00:05:21.673 - Okay. Well, I just, you know, we're kind of just going on here. I do want to get into you. You know, 00:05:21.673 --> 00:05:26.878 - that's, that's what I meant. You know, I do want to get into the interview. 00:05:28.194 --> 00:05:36.223 - Right, so. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you. Namaste. What I'd like to do, though, is, yeah, I like to start 00:05:36.223 --> 00:05:44.173 - most of these interviews in the same spot. You know, what is your earliest memory of some spiritual 00:05:44.173 --> 00:05:52.123 - experience that you had that let you know that there was something going on outside of the everyday 00:05:52.123 --> 00:05:54.110 - story that they tell us? 00:05:54.434 --> 00:06:02.172 - So the first one I can remember was probably when I was around 10 or so. My background is I grew up 00:06:02.172 --> 00:06:09.213 - in a Christian home with the roots and the Pentecost. I wasn't Pentecost myself, but I did 00:06:09.213 --> 00:06:17.106 - go to a Pentecostal church when I was younger, mainly for the ice cream. I'm not going to lie. We all 00:06:17.106 --> 00:06:23.838 - went for the ice cream. So you said the roots and the Pentecost? The roots. The roots. 00:06:24.098 --> 00:06:30.686 - Oh, the roots end. Oh, I got you. Your pin causes the roots. Got that twang on here. Okay, I got you. 00:06:31.202 --> 00:06:36.842 - Yes, ma'am. Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. So we were on, I was with my mom and we didn't go to church all 00:06:36.842 --> 00:06:42.647 - every Sunday, but my mother would go to different ones and try them out. And we were on our way to church 00:06:42.647 --> 00:06:48.287 - this one particular Sunday. And I was just kind of gazing out the window and I just remember thinking, 00:06:48.287 --> 00:06:53.763 - why do I even have to go with here? You know, why is she making me do this? Is God even real? And I 00:06:53.763 --> 00:06:56.446 - heard very distinctively a voice say, I am real. 00:06:57.154 --> 00:07:03.524 - And I was so shocked. I like turned to my mom and was trying to tell her, I said, Oh my gosh, mom, I 00:07:03.524 --> 00:07:09.893 - just asked God, is God real? And I heard the voice and it said, I am real. And she's like, yeah. She 00:07:09.893 --> 00:07:16.011 - just kept on driving. Everybody knows God's real. What's the big idea? But I heard a voice, mom. 00:07:16.011 --> 00:07:19.038 - I'm like, you don't understand. Right. But that 00:07:19.266 --> 00:07:27.753 - experience stuck with me for well still to this day apparently um and then i just kind of um you know 00:07:27.753 --> 00:07:36.241 - lived my normal life for a number of years well let me ask you before you go on sure when you uh when 00:07:36.241 --> 00:07:41.150 - you experience the voice of god uh let me ask you what was 00:07:41.410 --> 00:07:46.947 - What was the takeaway? Like, did you change, did it change your perception about going to church or 00:07:46.947 --> 00:07:52.650 - did it make you want to go to church more? Did you want to read the Bible? Did it influence you in any 00:07:52.650 --> 00:07:58.463 - way to educate yourself in the way of the world as religion goes? Not at 10. Not at 10. I was just like, 00:07:58.463 --> 00:08:04.000 - okay, God's real then. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's great. I just was wondering. That answer 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.270 - that question. Yeah, there you go. Okay. 00:08:06.914 --> 00:08:13.106 - then I like I said I just uh for a number of years I just lived my normal life I was a kid been doing 00:08:13.106 --> 00:08:19.177 - kid things and then um after I had my first daughter I was at a friend's house and when I went home 00:08:19.177 --> 00:08:25.369 - that night I had a very bizarre dream about her grandfather. How old were you at this age? Uh I would 00:08:25.369 --> 00:08:31.501 - say early 20s probably early early to mid 20s somewhere around in there and up until this time I had 00:08:31.501 --> 00:08:32.958 - just thought dreams are 00:08:33.186 --> 00:08:39.493 - junk that has happened through our day and it's our brain processing it because that's what I have been 00:08:39.493 --> 00:08:45.619 - taught you know um so on this particular day I had a dream about my friend's grandfather at the time 00:08:45.619 --> 00:08:51.865 - I didn't know it was her grandfather but I called her and I'm like I had this very strange dream there 00:08:51.865 --> 00:08:56.414 - was this man named Charles or Charlie and she's like that's my grandfather 00:08:56.546 --> 00:09:02.662 - I was like oh okay well he told me that you may not remember him he loves you and something about the 00:09:02.662 --> 00:09:08.657 - baby and she said oh you don't know what happened to me yesterday and I said well what happened and 00:09:08.657 --> 00:09:14.893 - she said we were in a car accident and the baby's car seat had been broken and something told me before 00:09:14.893 --> 00:09:21.188 - we left to fix the car seat and he was the only one not seriously injured or not injured in the accident 00:09:21.188 --> 00:09:24.126 - they had some some bruises but the baby was fine 00:09:24.226 --> 00:09:32.032 - And so then I'm like, that was very strange. And I had two more subsequent dreams after that, that were 00:09:32.032 --> 00:09:39.537 - a little more not as clear cut, I should say, a little more abstract. But that started me thinking, 00:09:39.537 --> 00:09:47.042 - oh, wait a minute, dreams are relevant. Something in them that maybe I should investigate. And that 00:09:47.042 --> 00:09:52.446 - kind of led me off on a whole different direction with the dream state. 00:09:52.706 --> 00:10:00.063 - Most people are scared of my dreams at this point, because if I say, oh, I had a dream about the years, 00:10:00.063 --> 00:10:07.350 - they're like, oh, wait a minute. Oh, no. Well, I love the fact that it was a wake up call for you. You 00:10:07.350 --> 00:10:14.566 - know what I mean? You made me look at things differently and see that there is so many gems hidden in 00:10:14.566 --> 00:10:22.206 - our dreams if we just take the time to look into it. So let me tell you about a dream. In fact, it's there. 00:10:22.370 --> 00:10:29.859 - There have been two dreams that I've had and I believe they're of the same place. Um, like I keep going 00:10:29.859 --> 00:10:37.348 - to this place, but it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a wonderful place. But anyway, let me explain. So there 00:10:37.348 --> 00:10:44.766 - is one dream where I am, uh, standing at the free line of a large forest, right? It could be like, uh, 00:10:44.766 --> 00:10:47.934 - you know, very tall trees, right? And, and, 00:10:48.418 --> 00:10:55.915 - I'm standing at the at the very edge of the tree line and across from so so between where I'm standing 00:10:55.915 --> 00:11:03.703 - and another tree line or the another part of the forest is a field that's probably as wide as two football 00:11:03.703 --> 00:11:11.055 - fields right well I'm standing at a tree line and I'm looking across this large field at another set 00:11:11.055 --> 00:11:15.422 - of trees that you know are pretty much evenly cut with this 00:11:15.554 --> 00:11:22.416 - line of grass going down the middle, right? Very large. And I'm standing there, this is where I appear 00:11:22.416 --> 00:11:29.079 - in the dream. I'm standing there and I'm looking and it's just beautiful. It's like beautiful green 00:11:29.079 --> 00:11:36.007 - grass and the trees, it's a forest and it's like almost a calm mist, you know? And suddenly the ground, 00:11:36.007 --> 00:11:42.270 - I start feeling rumbling in the ground. Okay. And it gradually increases. And I'm like, what? 00:11:42.786 --> 00:11:50.079 - is on the earth, you know, what on earth could be doing this, right? And as I'm looking, I look to the 00:11:50.079 --> 00:11:57.372 - right and I'm standing, like I said, right inside the tree line. And as I look to the right, there are 00:11:57.372 --> 00:12:04.948 - these buffalo. I mean, millions of buffalo coming, rumbling the ground, running between this giant forest. 00:12:04.948 --> 00:12:10.046 - And I'm standing at the tree line watching it in total all life. Right. 00:12:10.306 --> 00:12:18.030 - And one would be, yes. You're like, oh my god. Here comes the buffalo. Yes. So this dream, of course, 00:12:18.030 --> 00:12:26.133 - you may not automatically understand what that dream is. So it's like what they call manifest. It presents 00:12:26.133 --> 00:12:34.008 - its education later in the process of time. So I had that dream. And then there's this other dream that 00:12:34.008 --> 00:12:39.006 - I had. And I'm very confident that these both are the same place. 00:12:39.650 --> 00:12:48.907 - they feel so much like the same place. In the second dream, I couldn't actually see my physical self, 00:12:48.907 --> 00:12:58.165 - but my presence was there, right? And I was standing at the edge of a shore of the ocean that was, it 00:12:58.165 --> 00:13:07.422 - was extremely, you guys, you could say volatile, but it wasn't like scary volatile, it was just like, 00:13:07.874 --> 00:13:13.417 - It was almost like a new earth and this was the newest ocean and the waves were just huge. And it was 00:13:13.417 --> 00:13:19.013 - like, so that's what it feels like. It feels like the waves were part of this dream. Cause then it was 00:13:19.013 --> 00:13:24.556 - just like, I was in awe, you know, I was standing there in awe again of the waves and the size of the 00:13:24.556 --> 00:13:30.262 - ocean and all of it, you know, it was just the nature scene and both of these places feel like the exact 00:13:30.262 --> 00:13:34.174 - same place. And it feels like seeing the beginning of a new earth come. 00:13:35.138 --> 00:13:42.028 - funny you say that because I do remember a dream from when I was a child and it was like another planet 00:13:42.028 --> 00:13:48.652 - was above me and on that planet they were on a beach and everybody was laughing and happy and I was 00:13:48.652 --> 00:13:55.807 - like I want to be there and then which leads me to another question at one time I was having a conversation 00:13:55.807 --> 00:14:01.438 - with God and I was homesick really I just felt very homesick for a place that I have 00:14:01.602 --> 00:14:08.447 - don't remember, you know, if anybody knows, they know. And I was, you know, kind of crying out to God 00:14:08.447 --> 00:14:15.225 - and I was like, I'm homesick for some place. I don't even know. And I know it's different than here. 00:14:15.225 --> 00:14:22.003 - And this is never going to be like there. And God very distinctly said to me, why can't it be? And I 00:14:22.003 --> 00:14:28.848 - could not think of one reason why it could not. Now we are going where God is sending us. And that is 00:14:28.848 --> 00:14:30.526 - what I'm trying to bring 00:14:30.850 --> 00:14:39.125 - bring with me, I want to, my life's mission, what I've made my life's mission is to share fun, happiness, 00:14:39.125 --> 00:14:46.932 - love, joy, compassion to everyone I encounter. That is literally what I try to do every single day. 00:14:46.932 --> 00:14:54.817 - That is your job and that is beautiful. That is a beautiful and wonderful idea for life itself. What 00:14:54.817 --> 00:15:00.126 - I'd like to say about you mentioning God saying, why can it not be? 00:15:01.090 --> 00:15:08.259 - Right? Why can't it be? Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, why can't it be? Because I was having this conversation 00:15:08.259 --> 00:15:15.566 - for probably the last 48 hours, right, with different people about the different expressions of spiritual 00:15:15.566 --> 00:15:22.803 - people. Right. And our mutual friend, Aubrey, actually, right. Our mutual friend, he's been on the show. 00:15:22.803 --> 00:15:29.214 - Aubrey said that there is there are hierarchies and there are levels. And he mentioned some. 00:15:29.474 --> 00:15:37.097 - about someone putting a hurdle in your way and in your worldly perspective, they may seem like a challenge 00:15:37.097 --> 00:15:44.506 - or someone you don't like. But from a spiritual perspective, they are actually saying you can go higher 00:15:44.506 --> 00:15:51.630 - than where you are and there is a higher hurdle for you to jump and I just believe in you. What you 00:15:51.630 --> 00:15:54.622 - don't hear is that, let me help you grow. 00:15:54.754 --> 00:16:02.266 - Yes, yes, yes. And so that takes the spiritual ear and eye to catch from the scenario. But what I was 00:16:02.266 --> 00:16:10.367 - wanting to say about that is I was, and you know, I don't want this to come across as arrogant or egotistical 00:16:10.367 --> 00:16:17.732 - or ass-holish or any of that, but ultimately, I'm just being honest. Like I was talking to somebody 00:16:17.732 --> 00:16:24.286 - just last night about, I don't feel, me personally, that I am here to pressure people to 00:16:24.994 --> 00:16:32.436 - work towards getting to heaven or protecting themselves from hell. I don't feel like that's my job. 00:16:32.436 --> 00:16:40.176 - I don't feel like that's relevant in my life's purpose and task. I feel like my life's purpose and task 00:16:40.176 --> 00:16:47.842 - is to allow people to understand that heaven is within us, right? And the righteous souls who are here 00:16:47.842 --> 00:16:52.382 - are those who are the ambassadors for the kingdom of heaven. 00:16:53.026 --> 00:17:00.321 - Okay, this is what I believe, and I know it's a sound crazy, it's bold, it's, you know, whatever you 00:17:00.321 --> 00:17:07.761 - want to say, but the world will ultimately have to know this anyway. So I feel like we are ambassadors 00:17:07.761 --> 00:17:15.273 - for God's kingdom. I feel like my purpose, intention, and reason for being here is to help others reach 00:17:15.273 --> 00:17:21.918 - their full potential, right? That we should understand just the commonality that most of us 00:17:22.114 --> 00:17:27.981 - And if you look throughout history, most humanity have not reached their full potential. No, 00:17:27.981 --> 00:17:34.415 - not even close. Yeah, yeah. And so ultimately, is that not something that we think we should possibly 00:17:34.415 --> 00:17:40.913 - be working towards as a human species and a human family, right? Yes. Our full potential. And with the 00:17:40.913 --> 00:17:47.410 - heartbreak and the sadness of the reality of so many of us not reaching our full potential, can we not 00:17:47.410 --> 00:17:51.006 - work the rest of our lives to make sure our children do? 00:17:51.682 --> 00:17:58.301 - Right. And I've already began with my children, my grandchildren. They're already, you know, I'm talking 00:17:58.301 --> 00:18:04.668 - to them about things that people don't normally talk about. So when they go out into the world, they 00:18:04.668 --> 00:18:11.098 - will have these things to hold on to. Yes. Yes. And so that's, that's ultimately my vision. You know, 00:18:11.098 --> 00:18:17.150 - I feel like that's why I'm here. I feel like I'm more here to help people express their highest 00:18:17.378 --> 00:18:24.797 - version of themselves. I feel like that's why we are all here, right? That we're supposed to be expressing 00:18:24.797 --> 00:18:32.147 - this spiritual energy that is light, love, sun, God, good, whatever you want to call it, from the source. 00:18:32.147 --> 00:18:39.080 - And we're supposed to be expressing it to our highest abilities, right? And most of us, sadly, fear 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:42.686 - being who we truly are. Well, the fear is so thick. 00:18:43.106 --> 00:18:49.673 - throughout all of the world. It's hard to get beyond that fear. Just when you get, get ready to break 00:18:49.673 --> 00:18:56.498 - through, there's somebody, something, some situation that tries to bring you back down and getting beyond 00:18:56.498 --> 00:19:03.258 - that is very, it's not an easy challenge, but it is possible. It is possible. I agree a hundred percent. 00:19:03.258 --> 00:19:09.246 - And I think it is the only, I love your mission. I'm happy to be part of your mission. Yeah. 00:19:09.538 --> 00:19:16.117 - Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, you know, I'll, I'll even say this, you know, I'll even go further because this 00:19:16.117 --> 00:19:22.629 - show, the idea behind this show is of course, to, you know, make spirituality part of the everyday 00:19:22.629 --> 00:19:29.668 - experience, uh, you know, to make, you know, spirituality accessible to the everyday Joe, right? I learned 00:19:29.668 --> 00:19:35.326 - a very hard lesson when it comes to other people and my own spirituality. It was, uh, 00:19:35.810 --> 00:19:42.850 - learn through tears and attack it felt like I had had an idea for a program and I took it to a religious 00:19:42.850 --> 00:19:49.756 - institute because I thought maybe they could help me and instead of helping me they literally attacked 00:19:49.756 --> 00:19:56.528 - my own spirituality they came at me with like what church do you go they they literally started with 00:19:56.528 --> 00:20:00.350 - well we have a few problems with your program I said hey 00:20:01.314 --> 00:20:07.863 - Please help me. I've never done this before. This is why I came to you. And what they said to me was, 00:20:07.863 --> 00:20:14.540 - well, our first problem is you're just a new Christian. And that's pretty much where they lost me right 00:20:14.540 --> 00:20:21.090 - there. And then it was a parade of what church do you go to? What Bible studies are you into? Like da 00:20:21.090 --> 00:20:27.574 - da da da da. They had a whole line. And I said, I am literally only trying to help people. What does 00:20:27.574 --> 00:20:29.950 - this have to do with helping people? 00:20:30.754 --> 00:20:37.439 - And she, I had said something about meditation and she said, Oh, and you have to watch out about meditation 00:20:37.439 --> 00:20:43.629 - that borderlines on the satanic. And she said, I said, ma'am, meditation is in the Bible. If you're 00:20:43.629 --> 00:20:50.005 - going by the Bible, meditation is in the Bible. And she says to me, no offense, but you don't know how 00:20:50.005 --> 00:20:56.381 - they meditated. And I said, no offense, but neither do you. So after the phone call and several tears, 00:20:56.381 --> 00:20:58.238 - because I felt very attacked, 00:20:58.562 --> 00:21:06.792 - I will use my satanic meditation. The message that I received was, Tammy, you have learned a very valuable 00:21:06.792 --> 00:21:14.637 - lesson today. My relationship with you is between me and you. You do not let anybody else judge that. 00:21:14.637 --> 00:21:22.405 - However, my relationship with them is between myself and them. You are not to judge that. And I took 00:21:22.405 --> 00:21:26.174 - that. I have lived my life with that and that is 00:21:26.370 --> 00:21:34.355 - caused me to have two categories. I try my very best not to judge. I have for me and not for me. So 00:21:34.355 --> 00:21:42.499 - if somebody is doing something, I'm like, are you happy? OK, well, that's for you. But that might not 00:21:42.499 --> 00:21:50.724 - be for me. And I try to live by that. I so approve of that. It's a wonderful acceptance of the reality 00:21:50.724 --> 00:21:53.758 - of everyone's own personal path. Yes. 00:21:54.050 --> 00:22:00.516 - Yeah, because he's not in the same place. So my job, I feel my job is just to love them where they are 00:22:00.516 --> 00:22:07.358 - and try to provide encouragement, maybe some hope if they feel hopeless, you know, just to be a good person. 00:22:07.714 --> 00:22:13.391 - know what I consider a good person because there was a time in my life where I probably well I did I 00:22:13.391 --> 00:22:19.068 - looked in the mirror and I wasn't really thrilled with the person I saw standing before me and I had 00:22:19.068 --> 00:22:24.745 - to really dig deep and do some soul searching and make changes in my life so that now when I look in 00:22:24.745 --> 00:22:30.535 - the mirror I'm very happy and I'm very grateful for the life that I lead right and so that is the most 00:22:30.535 --> 00:22:32.446 - important thing because what what 00:22:32.706 --> 00:22:40.215 - Like we were, you know, this kind of, I think, sprung from the idea of people not being able to express 00:22:40.215 --> 00:22:47.508 - themselves. Exactly. Not having full expression is, I think, you know, a real detriment, not only to 00:22:47.508 --> 00:22:55.017 - society, but to the individual because it leads to things like anxiety. Yes. To things like depression. 00:22:55.017 --> 00:22:59.710 - Yes. And all of this is simply, in my opinion, you know, I'm not 00:23:00.034 --> 00:23:09.700 - clinically licensed in any psychological profiling. But in my opinion, I feel like most of our psychological 00:23:09.700 --> 00:23:18.567 - concerns in this world are spiritual concerns. I believe that as well. But looking into yourself is 00:23:18.567 --> 00:23:27.612 - not an easy task. I agree. 100% I agree. And so for those who do it, to me, it's always a thing where 00:23:27.612 --> 00:23:29.918 - I'm like hats off because 00:23:30.082 --> 00:23:37.602 - fact that a matter is most people don't have the bravery you know it is it is it is a thing of courage 00:23:37.602 --> 00:23:45.049 - and a thing of bravery and a thing of self-analyzation that you have to eventually take on if you are 00:23:45.049 --> 00:23:52.641 - actually looking to become your best self yes and it's very necessary and for the people who are afraid 00:23:52.641 --> 00:23:59.358 - to do it i would encourage you because it is so worth it it is so worth it to look at those 00:23:59.714 --> 00:24:07.334 - places of yourself that you may not be really happy with and to make those changes. Yeah. Yeah, it is. 00:24:07.334 --> 00:24:15.103 - It's no one else can do it. And there is no outside source that can change what you feel and what you're 00:24:15.103 --> 00:24:22.649 - experiencing within yourself. Exactly. And so we allow, you know, everyone's opinions, you know, mom, 00:24:22.649 --> 00:24:29.086 - dad, friends, family, lovers, whatever, whoever, we allow those opinions to, you know, 00:24:29.474 --> 00:24:36.155 - bar our expression of ourselves. We do. We try to dim our light and we should not. We should let that 00:24:36.155 --> 00:24:42.836 - shine brightly. Yeah. And I feel like that's what, like I said, I feel like that's one of my goals is 00:24:42.836 --> 00:24:50.238 - to not only do it for my own self, but to show and share that that is our reason for being here. Like, you know, 00:24:50.498 --> 00:24:56.512 - people go into the deepest thoughts about, well, why did God create life? Why are we here? What is the 00:24:56.512 --> 00:25:02.584 - purpose of life? And all of those things. And I think it's pretty obvious if you just look around, that 00:25:02.584 --> 00:25:08.422 - you reach your fullest, just like the plants. They grow and they bloom and they have fruit and they 00:25:08.422 --> 00:25:14.495 - have flowers and they process through seasons. And so this is the same for us, but ultimately it's like 00:25:14.495 --> 00:25:16.830 - most of us, the fears stops our growth. 00:25:16.962 --> 00:25:25.513 - You know what I mean? And it's sad to me, it's so heartbreaking because you see, I don't know what level 00:25:25.513 --> 00:25:33.900 - of spiritual insight you have, but I see inside of people the light of God. I can see the life in them 00:25:33.900 --> 00:25:42.125 - and it's like they are so layered with forms of protection, right? That's what it is. I think that's 00:25:42.125 --> 00:25:44.894 - what it is, you know what I mean? 00:25:45.378 --> 00:25:52.450 - Yeah, and you feel those away. It takes some work and it takes time and it takes bravery, like you said. 00:25:52.450 --> 00:25:59.455 - But I do feel like being your authentic self allows others the freedom to also be their authentic self. 00:25:59.455 --> 00:26:06.258 - Yes, that's why I say I think it's so valuable that we do it. And that's why it's always hats off to 00:26:06.258 --> 00:26:12.926 - those who I see willing to express themselves. So literally hats off, young lady. Thank you. Yeah. 00:26:13.122 --> 00:26:19.676 - I had no choice not to take all the credit. I really literally had no choice and that you know, that's 00:26:19.676 --> 00:26:26.102 - reality because like like Like I cannot Do what my spirit is calling me to do? You know what I mean? 00:26:26.102 --> 00:26:32.719 - I can't live with myself. You know what I mean? I can't look in the mirror I don't if I don't feel good 00:26:32.719 --> 00:26:35.710 - about me and who I've been and who I'm being I 00:26:36.258 --> 00:26:41.535 - It doesn't matter what the world thinks. They could think I'm great. They could think I'm everything, 00:26:41.535 --> 00:26:46.915 - you know, on the ice cream. You can go home and look at yourself and you're like, mm. Yeah. That's what 00:26:46.915 --> 00:26:52.296 - we have to live with. And that's what- I'm in a place where I live the opposite. I come home, I'm happy 00:26:52.296 --> 00:26:57.521 - with me. And if the outside world doesn't like it, that's OK. Yeah. You're not there yet. It's fine. 00:26:57.521 --> 00:27:02.850 - And that's what has to happen. That's where we all have to eventually get to because- But even if they 00:27:02.850 --> 00:27:04.350 - don't get it at that moment, 00:27:04.450 --> 00:27:12.035 - at least maybe I've planted a seed that they can cultivate and grow later. That is a part of my prayer, 00:27:12.035 --> 00:27:19.619 - right? That's a consistent part of my prayers and my meditations and all of that is that what I express 00:27:19.619 --> 00:27:26.912 - to the world is like an apple has a fragrance, it has a color, it has oranges, lemons, all of these 00:27:26.912 --> 00:27:29.246 - things, they have fragrances in 00:27:29.442 --> 00:27:36.103 - and energy and light, and you see them and you get a certain vibe. And I just hope to emanate from myself 00:27:36.103 --> 00:27:42.512 - that, right? Love. I want to emanate from myself my presence, love. I want you to get something, even 00:27:42.512 --> 00:27:48.796 - if you don't know me, if we don't have a conversation, if we just walk by each other in the grocery 00:27:48.796 --> 00:27:53.886 - store. I hope that something of good comes to you from me. You know what I mean? 00:27:54.018 --> 00:28:00.316 - Well, we are all love that is who we are and that leads me to so the very first time I ever meditated 00:28:00.316 --> 00:28:06.552 - right and I wanted to sling this does not happen to everybody. This was my experience. So I was in a 00:28:06.552 --> 00:28:12.727 - place where I wasn't happy. I wasn't sad. I just was kind of blah, you know, my life just felt kind 00:28:12.727 --> 00:28:19.148 - of lather rinse repeat if you want to put it like that and so I had read about meditation and I thought 00:28:19.148 --> 00:28:22.174 - well, let me try this and just see what happens. 00:28:22.498 --> 00:28:29.302 - So I read through the meditation a few times before I put it on. I put my little music on, and then 00:28:29.302 --> 00:28:36.310 - I went into the breathing techniques and went into my meditation. And for the first time, like I said, 00:28:36.310 --> 00:28:43.250 - I knew God was real because he had told me, right? But for the first time ever, I felt it. I felt the 00:28:43.250 --> 00:28:43.998 - adoration. 00:28:44.098 --> 00:28:50.467 - Cause it's beyond love. It's like the adoration that God has for us. It's like when you have a little 00:28:50.467 --> 00:28:56.836 - new little baby and you just are, you just kiss them. They're so scrumptious. You could just eat them 00:28:56.836 --> 00:29:03.267 - up and love them. That's how God feels about us. And I came out of that meditation and I was like, Oh, 00:29:03.267 --> 00:29:09.636 - God is real, but like really real. Adored and there's nothing that we can do to make him not love us. 00:29:09.636 --> 00:29:12.446 - And not only that, but none of this is real. 00:29:12.898 --> 00:29:18.890 - None of this is real. The only thing real here is love. And I was in a state of euphoria for probably 00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:24.883 - like two months because I'm like, once somebody knows all of this is an illusion, like how can you be 00:29:24.883 --> 00:29:31.051 - sad again? Right? Cause it's not even, you can do anything. And I was so thrilled and happy and euphoric 00:29:31.051 --> 00:29:37.161 - that I just wanted to run out and share this with everybody. This isn't real. You don't have to be sad. 00:29:37.161 --> 00:29:40.510 - Like all this real is love. Look, everybody's not ready. 00:29:41.090 --> 00:29:47.800 - Yeah, yeah. Everybody's not ready for that message. But I'm really grateful that I was ready at that 00:29:47.800 --> 00:29:54.709 - moment because it really, really changed. Now that changed the trajectory of my life, that right there, 00:29:54.709 --> 00:30:01.885 - that moment. Yeah, it sounds wonderful. The only truth is love. It sounds wonderful. I mean, the experience 00:30:01.885 --> 00:30:04.542 - of, you know, the way you explain that. 00:30:05.378 --> 00:30:12.882 - that gave me a certain amount of chill bumps, and I really enjoyed it. Like, to do it, to recognize 00:30:12.882 --> 00:30:17.310 - that you are adored. Like, I've never had that experience. 00:30:17.442 --> 00:30:26.005 - And I'm jealous. I know. I want to be adored. So that's why I so look forward to that experience. Like, 00:30:26.005 --> 00:30:34.485 - wow. Yeah, I'm sure it could be extremely life-changing, but it was because I knew at that moment also 00:30:34.485 --> 00:30:42.142 - that God doesn't really judge us like we judge ourselves. Yes. God is not judging us. He is. 00:30:42.306 --> 00:30:49.274 - standing with us helping us learn in the most loving of ways even though it probably you know like I 00:30:49.274 --> 00:30:56.449 - said I was like and once you know this how can you ever be sad again but then life has this way of kind 00:30:56.449 --> 00:31:03.417 - of just roping you back in to to the muck I call it the mug um you know but that's something to hold 00:31:03.417 --> 00:31:11.006 - on to when you're into that space you can remind yourself I agree 100% that's something I've long shared with 00:31:11.458 --> 00:31:18.191 - you know, people in my community, I say, you know, when we have these experiences that are, because, 00:31:18.191 --> 00:31:25.057 - you know, spirituality is extremely personal, right? Yes, very. And so when we have these experiences, 00:31:25.057 --> 00:31:31.790 - though we share them with the world or we share them with other people, ultimately, I feel like they 00:31:31.790 --> 00:31:38.590 - are, you, they are, they are utilized as tools to always recenter us when we are caught into the muck 00:31:38.590 --> 00:31:40.990 - and chaos of this BS matrix, right? 00:31:41.122 --> 00:31:49.229 - Right. Which I do see, I have this other thing that happens to me. I don't know if it happens to everybody, 00:31:49.229 --> 00:31:56.885 - but it's very prominent with me is when I'm in an extreme amount of pain, it's like the beauty of the 00:31:56.885 --> 00:32:04.391 - world is magnified to me. I don't know if that makes sense or not, but like when my grandmother was 00:32:04.391 --> 00:32:06.718 - leaving this earth, let's say, 00:32:06.978 --> 00:32:13.945 - It's like I would just look outside of the trees, the ground. I mean, everything seems so much more 00:32:13.945 --> 00:32:21.122 - beautiful to me. And I don't know if it's the pain that causes me to focus on something more beautiful 00:32:21.122 --> 00:32:28.368 - or if it's just something that God does for me to remind me that the world's not an ugly place. There's 00:32:28.368 --> 00:32:35.544 - so much beauty in the world if we stop and just look around. I don't know the answer to that question, 00:32:35.544 --> 00:32:36.798 - but it feels like 00:32:39.010 --> 00:32:45.973 - the expansion of love. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I see more loving things. Like when she was in 00:32:45.973 --> 00:32:52.526 - the nursing home, I, I noticed like the daughter brushing her mother's hair and the grandchild, 00:32:52.526 --> 00:32:59.352 - you know, going and running up and wrapping their arms around someone. Things that you kind of keep 00:32:59.352 --> 00:33:06.247 - in your prayer for all day. Those things become very pronounced to me. I, uh, I got, I guess in some 00:33:06.247 --> 00:33:07.134 - way I could, 00:33:07.522 --> 00:33:17.233 - I could say I have those experiences. So I guess with me, it's more like, so, you know, I don't really 00:33:17.233 --> 00:33:26.849 - say, oh, I'm an empath and all that stuff, but I feel a lot, right? And so often, you know, I have to 00:33:26.849 --> 00:33:34.014 - turn off that energy, right? Because that shit can make you just fucked up. 00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:43.256 - I call it, I have my bubble method. I call it Glinda the good witch, you know, that kind of stuff. Um, 00:33:43.256 --> 00:33:52.127 - and I do breath work and make a bubble around myself and nobody can come. Your energy is not allowed 00:33:52.127 --> 00:34:00.734 - in my bubble. Listen, that's when I need a little break from my best practice is, um, uh, uh, um, 00:34:01.314 --> 00:34:08.180 - I guess you could say controlling or organizing or attempting to order that energy is going into grocery 00:34:08.180 --> 00:34:14.981 - stores, right? Walmart, right? One of these large stores with all of the people and you feel different, 00:34:14.981 --> 00:34:21.520 - you go by different people and stuff like that. So, you know, it's a, I find that experience that's 00:34:21.520 --> 00:34:28.059 - the, in some ways it's cool. In some ways it can be daunting. And so like every occasion, you know, 00:34:28.059 --> 00:34:29.694 - occasionally I'll accept 00:34:30.690 --> 00:34:38.094 - what is coming right I'll accept it all right from the whole of the world about going through some oh 00:34:38.094 --> 00:34:45.353 - are you talking about some tears pouring yeah like you feel the pain of all of it you know you know 00:34:45.353 --> 00:34:52.830 - the beauty and the source and the and the possibility of it all and you see the contrast and it's like 00:34:53.858 --> 00:35:01.413 - I know. I know. It's hard to have a heart. It's very difficult to have a heart in this world. Yes, 00:35:01.413 --> 00:35:09.044 - it is. But I will not let them stop me. No, no, no. I hear that often too. I hear that often. Never 00:35:09.044 --> 00:35:16.827 - grow weary of doing good. And I think maybe for women, it might be a little bit more, I don't want to 00:35:16.827 --> 00:35:22.398 - say easier, but I'm perfectly comfortable. If I'm in Walmart and I see a 00:35:23.010 --> 00:35:30.726 - someone just having a total meltdown. I will go, I will cry with them. I will go there and put my arm 00:35:30.726 --> 00:35:38.592 - around them. I will comfort them. I will cry with them. But you know, like for men that would probably, 00:35:38.592 --> 00:35:46.686 - that might come across as creepy or, you know. I'll say I've never done it. You see what I'm saying there. 00:35:46.818 --> 00:35:53.631 - And this, you know, it's sad, but that's a factor of social cues, too. You know what I'm saying? 00:35:53.631 --> 00:36:00.866 - I will say, I have actually prayed with people, though. Like, people have actually, you know, that was 00:36:00.866 --> 00:36:08.101 - a shocking thing to me one day. There was a neighbor of mine, and she was like, Joe Charles, could you 00:36:08.101 --> 00:36:14.142 - pray with me? And I'm like, sure, of course. And it was just me, like, what made you, 00:36:14.690 --> 00:36:21.803 - you know, assess that I was the guy that you needed to pray with you. You're like, what kind of signals 00:36:21.803 --> 00:36:28.780 - am I giving off over here? Yeah, yeah. It was, you know, I accepted it. It was cool, you know, but it 00:36:28.780 --> 00:36:36.030 - was also surprising. Like, okay, sure. That's a surprising honor. You know what I mean? But yeah. So, um, 00:36:36.866 --> 00:36:43.114 - Yeah, okay. We've just kind of gone. It's okay. I'm sure both are enjoying our little tangents. Yeah, 00:36:43.114 --> 00:36:49.424 - I think it'll be valuable for people because I think it's kind of internalizing, you know, it's giving 00:36:49.424 --> 00:36:55.917 - the internal experiences of people who have these experiences. Yes. So if you're having these experiences 00:36:55.917 --> 00:37:01.246 - and you can relate to what we're talking about, then there you go. There you go. Yeah. 00:37:01.794 --> 00:37:07.125 - I was going to say too with the meditation. So I am very much, if I don't know, I say, I don't know. 00:37:07.125 --> 00:37:12.615 - You know, I'm not going to pretend. And people would ask me previously about past lives. Do you believe 00:37:12.615 --> 00:37:17.999 - in past lives and this and that? And I would always say, I don't know. I have no idea. I have nothing 00:37:17.999 --> 00:37:23.383 - to gauge it by. It's not mentioned in the Bible because at this point, and I still do enjoy the Bible 00:37:23.383 --> 00:37:27.870 - and go by scriptures of the Bible. So I don't want to act like I'm just some kind of 00:37:29.666 --> 00:37:40.576 - I understand the point of religion, but then I had an experience through meditation where I remembered 00:37:40.576 --> 00:37:51.485 - a past life and so now you can't tell me that I've not been here before because I'm pretty sure I have 00:37:51.485 --> 00:37:52.862 - a few times. 00:37:53.026 --> 00:37:58.867 - Well, this sounds like something that I'm sure my audience and myself definitely want to hear. Say hello 00:37:58.867 --> 00:38:04.431 - teaser there for us. Well, it was just, it was a meditation I did where you kind of start with your 00:38:04.431 --> 00:38:10.105 - life where you're at now. And then you go back five years, 10 years, 20 years, you know, and you just 00:38:10.105 --> 00:38:15.891 - keep going back. I'm not going to back any further because I don't want people to know how old I really 00:38:15.891 --> 00:38:16.670 - am right now. 00:38:17.154 --> 00:38:25.147 - just kidding and then you go beyond that you go back to like the womb you go and then you go you go 00:38:25.147 --> 00:38:33.300 - beyond so i tried this meditation and i literally remembered a life and it's different than a regular 00:38:33.300 --> 00:38:40.574 - memory because of the emotion there's so much emotion attached to this memory you know yes 00:38:40.706 --> 00:38:48.653 - And where I was Native American and I was living amongst a tribe and what a difference, what a huge 00:38:48.653 --> 00:38:56.679 - difference that life was compared to this life. Because in that life, what I experienced was spirits 00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:04.864 - just wander freely amongst, it's normal. It's normal. They did not think anything of it. It was a very 00:39:04.864 --> 00:39:07.486 - peaceful life that I remembered. 00:39:08.482 --> 00:39:16.840 - So free, free, free, I mean, you know, free of a body, spirit? Yeah, spirit would just move amongst 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:25.364 - the people. And they weren't like, you know, OK, if we were in our house and you saw some spirit walk 00:39:25.364 --> 00:39:33.805 - by, you would be like, I don't know about you, but I would probably have a heart attack and become a 00:39:33.805 --> 00:39:36.062 - spirit. So. Yeah, I don't. 00:39:36.898 --> 00:39:44.282 - anything. Exactly. It was normal. It was normal life in that life that it was just part of it. It wasn't 00:39:44.282 --> 00:39:51.878 - scary. It wasn't it was just so. So were they able to just communicate with the spirits like we communicate 00:39:51.878 --> 00:39:58.911 - with each other? Yes, but it's not like they weren't honed in on each other. They were just kind of 00:39:58.911 --> 00:40:05.662 - living parallel. I don't know how to explain it. That is beautiful because that is actually the 00:40:05.922 --> 00:40:12.269 - I guess you'd say the worldview of Islam, right? Islam says, and I mean, many, I mean, this is this, 00:40:12.269 --> 00:40:18.678 - I'd say that's very throughout all of the religions that I've studied that yes, this is the existence 00:40:18.678 --> 00:40:24.962 - that we actually live in now, right? I'm like, like, we just don't see it. We don't see it. I guess 00:40:24.962 --> 00:40:31.309 - that's the difference. Then you could, and it wasn't so much like I was seeing it, but I knew it and 00:40:31.309 --> 00:40:32.126 - I sensed it. 00:40:32.514 --> 00:40:41.065 - Right. Where my senses in this life are not as honed. Right. As they were at that point. So yeah, 00:40:41.065 --> 00:40:50.053 - I've had a, you know, I've had a experience of, I was actually with a waking vision where I saw myself 00:40:50.053 --> 00:40:56.510 - in a physical body that was other than this one. And so yes, I do believe 00:40:57.058 --> 00:41:03.772 - that there are, you know, we've lived in other lives or times. And the reason I say it was a different 00:41:03.772 --> 00:41:10.487 - time is because I was sitting on a corral, like where you corral animals, but it was made of wood that 00:41:10.487 --> 00:41:17.331 - was just like trees that were laced together versus, you know, to cut wood that we use that's all pretty 00:41:17.331 --> 00:41:21.438 - today. Right. And I was sitting on the corral and it was like, 00:41:21.794 --> 00:41:28.065 - probably nine kids in front of me. And I was like telling them a story and I couldn't quite tell the 00:41:28.065 --> 00:41:34.273 - words that I was saying, but it was obvious of the energy that I was telling them a story that they 00:41:34.273 --> 00:41:40.793 - thought was entertaining and funny, but it was also deep wisdom for their education. And so I recognized 00:41:40.793 --> 00:41:47.063 - that. And, and, and, and you, you know, my uncle Cleveland, right? Yeah. I was about his height, uh, 00:41:47.063 --> 00:41:48.926 - about his build. Uh, and, um, 00:41:49.698 --> 00:41:52.958 - Yeah, so I had this experience of seeing my... 00:41:53.218 --> 00:42:00.393 - And, you know, I was fully awake. And I experienced my consciousness being there and here. It was the 00:42:00.393 --> 00:42:07.849 - craziest. It is crazy. It just feels like, wait a minute. I knew that was me. Yes, I had that experience. 00:42:07.849 --> 00:42:15.095 - And so, yeah, I think, you know, I didn't even really too much care about other lives, right? I didn't 00:42:15.095 --> 00:42:23.184 - care whether that lived. Hey, what is this relevance to what I got to do today? You know what I'm saying? Exactly. 00:42:23.184 --> 00:42:30.232 - So what I, you know, I'd never, you know, put any attention to it, but when I had that vision, it's 00:42:30.232 --> 00:42:37.350 - definitely relevant to what I do now, right? Like, so my vision for this- It kind of carried forward 00:42:37.350 --> 00:42:44.751 - into- Yes, yes. Me teaching the children is the whole vision of my 24-Hour Community Center and helping- 00:42:44.751 --> 00:42:51.799 - Like, if I could put what you know into a 10-year-old, 12-year-old, and in 10 years, they grow with 00:42:51.799 --> 00:42:52.574 - that? Yes. 00:42:52.866 --> 00:42:59.055 - If we could take a generation of eight-year-olds and put everything that we know from deep spirit and 00:42:59.055 --> 00:43:05.305 - high science into these children, and we teach them from that, what we're creating is heaven on earth. 00:43:05.305 --> 00:43:11.616 - Because they're going to create impure harmony and balance with everything that's around them. And this 00:43:11.616 --> 00:43:15.742 - is the future vision than version of life that I see for our world. 00:43:15.906 --> 00:43:21.095 - That's my efforts, right? And this show is part of it. Honestly, I hope to find souls who recognize 00:43:21.095 --> 00:43:26.441 - and are willing to sacrifice for those children because it's the only future that is going to make any 00:43:26.441 --> 00:43:31.682 - sense for us. Like where we are and what we're doing, like, oh, teach the children, the children are 00:43:31.682 --> 00:43:37.079 - our future, all of that, right? But what we're going to teach, we're going to teach them to be a lawyer 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:41.438 - and a doctor and the same thing that we've been teaching and we just get to another 00:43:41.538 --> 00:43:47.522 - you know, another generation in the same cycle of BS? Or are we gonna teach them? Because this is the 00:43:47.522 --> 00:43:53.624 - thing, right? Science has proven that these children can learn five languages by the time they're eight 00:43:53.624 --> 00:43:59.550 - years old. That means they're a super sponge in those years. So we can teach them high science, high 00:43:59.550 --> 00:44:05.417 - spirituality, and they're going to soak it up. And it won't be a question of let's remove this, you 00:44:05.417 --> 00:44:07.998 - were born a center mentality that you have, 00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:14.286 - You know, you're a piece of SOB, you know, you're nothing and all that stuff. We have to remove from 00:44:14.286 --> 00:44:20.441 - ourselves as we move towards spirit through the process of living in the matrix for all of our lives 00:44:20.441 --> 00:44:26.718 - and programming and the training. We have to remove all these things to become lights like we are now. 00:44:26.718 --> 00:44:30.558 - And it's not easy. That indoctrination is very, it's not easy. 00:44:30.658 --> 00:44:39.209 - So I've got a story that kind of ties a lot of things we've talked about. And it's when I went to Bali. 00:44:39.209 --> 00:44:48.254 - I went to Bali a few years ago. And yes, very good. It was amazing. Amazing energy I hear all over the place. 00:44:48.834 --> 00:44:55.481 - energy there is scrumptious. Very good. You're exciting me. I can't wait to go to these things and have 00:44:55.481 --> 00:45:02.063 - these. It was actually, so I had gotten this call for Reiki. I don't know if you, maybe, because since 00:45:02.063 --> 00:45:08.710 - you dabbled you've heard of that. Yeah, so I went to a class for it and I thought that was the calling. 00:45:08.710 --> 00:45:14.526 - That was not. It was for me, it was kind of a weird path. It was for me to meet this lady, 00:45:15.138 --> 00:45:21.425 - I thought it was just for Reiki. It was to meet the lady who taught me that. And we kind of went down 00:45:21.425 --> 00:45:27.712 - this path and she offers this spiritual retreat to Bali. So I go to, by default, somebody couldn't go 00:45:27.712 --> 00:45:34.185 - at last minute. I got to go. So as soon as I got there, it wasn't right away, probably within the first, 00:45:34.185 --> 00:45:40.348 - by the second day, I could start hearing. I could start hearing. It was the craziest experience. We 00:45:40.348 --> 00:45:42.814 - had a friend that had just passed away. 00:45:43.234 --> 00:45:52.487 - And I also had an ex-boyfriend who had passed away, and I could literally hear them talking to me, which 00:45:52.487 --> 00:46:01.739 - I tried to dismiss because my religion didn't like that. So I tried to dismiss, this is my way of coping 00:46:01.739 --> 00:46:09.758 - with grief. I'm having these hallucinations, you know? So until the point where, you know, 00:46:09.890 --> 00:46:18.550 - the friend of mine, her name's Leah. She had passed away literally right before we left. And I heard 00:46:18.550 --> 00:46:27.210 - her telling Leah Ball, if anybody who knows her, I love you, Leah. You just made me tingle. That was 00:46:27.210 --> 00:46:35.870 - one of my very close friends as well. I love Leah. I love Leah. We love you, Leah. Yes, we love you, 00:46:35.870 --> 00:46:38.014 - Leah. Wow, that's great. 00:46:38.146 --> 00:46:44.981 - I call it the tut-tut. It was this little round outside wooden tut-tut. It had like the grass and it 00:46:44.981 --> 00:46:52.020 - was all open. You could literally see the forest all around you. So I'm sitting in here and I hear Leah 00:46:52.020 --> 00:46:58.923 - telling me to tell my other friend, you tell her I'm okay. And I say, no Leah, you tell her yourself. 00:46:58.923 --> 00:47:05.826 - It'll mean more coming from you than it will coming from me. And like I said, I dismissed it. This is 00:47:05.826 --> 00:47:07.518 - me in my grief trying to 00:47:07.778 --> 00:47:14.262 - with losing my friend. So until... Before you go on, how did you hear this? Because how did you hear 00:47:14.262 --> 00:47:20.746 - it? Did you hear it in your ear? How did you hear it? It's not like we're talking. It's like a voice 00:47:20.746 --> 00:47:27.423 - in your mind, but it's not your own. If you've not experienced this, it's kind of difficult to explain. 00:47:27.423 --> 00:47:34.485 - It's almost like your own thoughts, but you know it's not your thoughts. Right. So this is why I'm dismissing 00:47:34.485 --> 00:47:37.310 - it. So... You heard it in your inner being. 00:47:37.474 --> 00:47:43.880 - yes so i'm like i'm coping with grief and i'm being crazy okay so no leah i'm not going to tell her 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:50.286 - that you tell her yourself if you want her to know and i go on about my my day that evening which i 00:47:50.286 --> 00:47:56.821 - have receipts as the kids say nowadays i have receipts that evening my daughter who's still back here 00:47:56.821 --> 00:48:03.227 - in the states she asked to borrow my car so she sends me this message and she's like mom ever since 00:48:03.227 --> 00:48:06.238 - i picked up your car all i can do is hear leah 00:48:06.690 --> 00:48:13.714 - And she is telling me to let our friend know, Tiffany, to let her know that she is okay. And I said, 00:48:13.714 --> 00:48:20.738 - you know what? All right, I will now. I will tell her now. Cause apparently Leah is going to make me 00:48:20.738 --> 00:48:27.901 - tell her. That is amazing. That is amazing. That was the first Bali experience I had. And I also heard 00:48:27.901 --> 00:48:35.134 - my, my ex as well, just telling me like, I'm okay. Don't feel bad for things, you know, da da da da da. 00:48:35.362 --> 00:48:43.532 - So that was my very first thing that started happening right away. Then I'm walking around the grounds 00:48:43.532 --> 00:48:51.939 - that we're staying, a place called Blue Karma. By the way, if anybody goes there, it's a wonderful place. 00:48:51.939 --> 00:48:54.398 - I see this statue of a Buddha. 00:48:54.850 --> 00:49:00.180 - And I'm looking, I'm just taking pictures. You know, I'm just wandering around taking pictures of this 00:49:00.180 --> 00:49:05.459 - and that, because it's all new to me and I'm excited. And I'm looking, taking pictures of this statue 00:49:05.459 --> 00:49:10.634 - of Buddha. And I look at it and another friend on the retreat comes up to me and I said, is it just 00:49:10.634 --> 00:49:15.912 - me? Because I feel like Buddha is looking into my soul. Like he's staring me down, like into my soul. 00:49:15.912 --> 00:49:19.742 - She kind of looks at it and she goes, it is a little unnerving, isn't it? 00:49:19.970 --> 00:49:27.502 - I'm like, I don't know, that's so strange. And then we went back for a meditation. Every day we would 00:49:27.502 --> 00:49:35.108 - do yoga, meditation, have group things. So we went back for a meditation. And in my meditation, Buddha 00:49:35.108 --> 00:49:42.566 - comes to me and welcomes me. He's like, hello? Like, hi, I'm Buddha, welcome. I know you know me and 00:49:42.566 --> 00:49:48.030 - I know you, but welcome. Excellent story. I'm really enjoying. Go for it. 00:49:48.130 --> 00:49:55.891 - So there's a lot to it. I'll try to condense it as much as I can. So I'm like, okay, Buddha just welcomed 00:49:55.891 --> 00:50:03.360 - me. Strange. All right. Hi Buddha. Thank you. You know, but I'm still kind of in this place. Like I'm 00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:10.829 - still a Christian. You know what I mean? I still follow Christ and his teachings and I'm not sure how 00:50:10.829 --> 00:50:14.270 - this fits into the puzzle. So I pray about it. 00:50:14.626 --> 00:50:22.635 - the next day we do a meditation same time. This time I see Jesus and Buddha standing side by side and 00:50:22.635 --> 00:50:30.957 - they're literally holding hands and God is shining like this light but I know the light of God is shining 00:50:30.957 --> 00:50:39.358 - out of both of their eyes and I'm like okay Jesus just cosigned we're good Buddha. Wow you got me tingling 00:50:39.358 --> 00:50:40.222 - over here. 00:50:40.898 --> 00:50:47.368 - then we go to this place called it was the most auspicious of moons whatever they have a thing there 00:50:47.368 --> 00:50:53.966 - so it's the fifth full moon which is the most auspicious according to the bali and these people um and 00:50:53.966 --> 00:51:00.436 - there is a place called the water of god it's a water temple so we get in our um we have to wear the 00:51:00.436 --> 00:51:06.842 - sarong they have certain things you have to wear and they have these fountains there's like i don't 00:51:06.842 --> 00:51:10.814 - know i think 12 of them and you go down through each fountain 00:51:10.914 --> 00:51:16.634 - and you just kind of, you know, it's a water purification. They call it water purification. So the first 00:51:16.634 --> 00:51:22.245 - one, first little fountain I come to, I kind of sprinkle myself, okay. Second one, I get a little more 00:51:22.245 --> 00:51:26.494 - into it. By the third one, I just dunk my head over and I just start singing. 00:51:26.626 --> 00:51:32.711 - I just start singing. Thank you. I'm the only one there singing. I don't care. I'm singing. Thank you, 00:51:32.711 --> 00:51:38.618 - God. Thank you for this experience. Thank you for this life, for the messages. I'm just so grateful 00:51:38.618 --> 00:51:44.584 - at this point. At some point during my singing, my hair kind of falls forward and makes this funnel. 00:51:44.584 --> 00:51:50.492 - And as I'm singing, it literally feels like in this space, in this time, it is only God and myself. 00:51:50.492 --> 00:51:55.454 - Everything else just disappears. All while under this water. Yes. The number three. 00:51:55.650 --> 00:52:01.453 - the number three which three is very significant to me but yes um so the third one my hair falls it's 00:52:01.453 --> 00:52:07.369 - just me and god i feel god this is god's water because that's what they tell you this whoever made this 00:52:07.369 --> 00:52:13.171 - water temple came there and said this is the water of god he is here and i'm like okay so then i tell 00:52:13.171 --> 00:52:18.462 - my friend who's doing i'm like oh my gosh you got to try this put your hair forward and sing 00:52:18.658 --> 00:52:24.361 - So I'm doing this, like, through all the fountains. And one of the ladies even told me, she's like, 00:52:24.361 --> 00:52:30.291 - were you singing? I said, yes, I was. And I'm a, by nature, most people don't believe it, but I am more 00:52:30.291 --> 00:52:36.165 - of a reserved, kind of shy person. I did not care. So after that, they led us to the temple, which is- 00:52:36.165 --> 00:52:41.867 - Well, how about the singing, though? When she asked you, were you singing? How did she respond when 00:52:41.867 --> 00:52:48.254 - you said, yes, you were? I was like, yes, I was. She was like, oh, OK, I thought I heard you. Kind of like, OK. 00:52:48.450 --> 00:52:54.432 - Okay, so it was a positive or negative? Um, just, I think she was like, I'm not, she was unsure. 00:52:54.432 --> 00:53:00.908 - She was like, okay, do your thing, but I don't know about that. Yeah. Okay. And I was at the point where 00:53:00.908 --> 00:53:07.322 - I didn't care. So I was just in bliss. I'm in spirit. It's me and God. I ain't worried about what y'all 00:53:07.322 --> 00:53:13.551 - think. No, not a bit. So, uh, then they take us to the water, uh, to the temple, which, like I said, 00:53:13.551 --> 00:53:18.238 - it's kind of misleading because it's outside. It's not an indoor temple and 00:53:18.498 --> 00:53:24.937 - Typically they do not let outsiders into this space, but for whatever reason, well, we know the reason 00:53:24.937 --> 00:53:31.314 - they let us in this space. Um, the priest is doing a blessing and they take, uh, they come around and 00:53:31.314 --> 00:53:37.566 - they bless me and they take rice and they put it here, here and on your chest. Rice pieces of rice. 00:53:37.566 --> 00:53:43.881 - It's just part of their thing that they do. I'm not sure what it, I am unsure of what it stands for. 00:53:43.881 --> 00:53:48.382 - You would have to Google that, but as he comes and puts the rice on my, 00:53:48.514 --> 00:53:55.643 - on these certain points on my body, all of a sudden, like whoosh, I get a deja vu to the trillion. 00:53:55.643 --> 00:54:02.916 - I'm like, I have been here. I don't think I've been here. I'm not sure if I've not been here. I have 00:54:02.916 --> 00:54:10.478 - been here. I know it without a shadow of a doubt. I've been here. But how? Because I've never been here. 00:54:10.478 --> 00:54:12.062 - You know what I mean? 00:54:12.770 --> 00:54:19.608 - So I start immediately praying. I'm like, God, I know I've been here. This is all familiar, but I don't 00:54:19.608 --> 00:54:26.183 - know in what capacity. Please help me enlighten me with that. I don't know if it's, uh, did I spend 00:54:26.183 --> 00:54:32.889 - a past life here? Like, I don't understand. So we leave, we go about our day. I just kind of leave it 00:54:32.889 --> 00:54:39.464 - there, but I'm really in a high vibe right now. Like I'm vibing high. So the next day we go, um, we 00:54:39.464 --> 00:54:42.686 - were in our group and all of a sudden it hit me. 00:54:43.010 --> 00:54:49.856 - I was like, I dreamt this. I remember this dream. It was like 10 years prior. It was a long time ago, 00:54:49.856 --> 00:54:56.635 - but I was here in this place with these people doing yoga. Like I remembered that part of the dream. 00:54:56.635 --> 00:55:03.548 - And then when I remembered that, it started helping me remember the other parts. I was at that temple. 00:55:03.548 --> 00:55:10.662 - I was in this place. And for some reason that just really made me start feeling very emotional. I started 00:55:10.662 --> 00:55:11.870 - just kind of, um, 00:55:12.290 --> 00:55:18.448 - feeling, I don't know, I can't really describe it. I just felt very emotional. Like I wanted to cry, 00:55:18.448 --> 00:55:24.423 - but I didn't know why. So everybody had left to go to breakfast and they're like, are you coming? 00:55:24.423 --> 00:55:30.581 - I said, well, give me a minute. Cause I'm gonna, I'm just gonna sit here for a second. I didn't tell 00:55:30.581 --> 00:55:36.983 - anybody what was going on, but I wanted to process what I was feeling. Was it like an emotion of harmony 00:55:36.983 --> 00:55:40.702 - that made you feel emotional? Is it the harmony of honestly, 00:55:40.802 --> 00:55:48.645 - I couldn't even put words to what emotion it was. It was just, I just felt like crying. I don't know 00:55:48.645 --> 00:55:56.721 - why. It just struck a chord with me and I'm still uncertain. And my plan was at the edge of the tut-tut 00:55:56.721 --> 00:56:04.719 - thing, I was gonna sit there, look onto the forest and pray and talk to God and just say, what is this 00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.990 - about? That is not what happened. God had other plans. 00:56:09.410 --> 00:56:16.967 - What happened was the lady who yet led the yoga, she said, Hey, are you okay? And I told her what I 00:56:16.967 --> 00:56:20.670 - just told you. But now I'm now I'm start crying. 00:56:20.994 --> 00:56:26.422 - I'm like, for some reason, this is just making me very emotional and I don't understand it. 00:56:26.422 --> 00:56:32.439 - And she said, do you mind if I put you in a yoga pose? I said, yes. Yeah, by all means. So she put me 00:56:32.439 --> 00:56:38.516 - in a pose called the open heart. And it's basically like you're laying on your back with your arms out 00:56:38.516 --> 00:56:44.533 - to your sides. And there's like a thing under you. It opens your heart space, supposedly. So when she 00:56:44.533 --> 00:56:48.958 - started doing that, then I started going, oh, no, this is making it worse. 00:56:49.090 --> 00:56:57.326 - Like I'm getting more emotional and they just start like crying and I don't even know why at this point. 00:56:57.326 --> 00:57:05.326 - Say she's getting it out. She's pushing it on through. Yeah, she's getting it out. So she said, wait, 00:57:05.326 --> 00:57:13.327 - wait, wait. It's okay. It's okay. She's like, let me shake up the energy. So she goes down to my leg. 00:57:13.327 --> 00:57:18.974 - This is just funny to me. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. 00:57:19.522 --> 00:57:36.943 - Wait, wait, wait, let me let me break up the energy you need your energy broken up She starts kind of 00:57:36.943 --> 00:57:42.238 - like shaking them around a bit 00:57:48.578 --> 00:57:57.223 - when you think it can't get more intense, right? So she starts saying, what is this? Oh my gosh, 00:57:57.223 --> 00:58:06.135 - what is this? What is this coming in? Something is coming in. And I go, I don't know. And about the 00:58:06.135 --> 00:58:15.671 - time I yelled that. I'm sorry. This isn't supposed to be funny like this. It's all right. This is tickling 00:58:15.671 --> 00:58:16.830 - me to death. 00:58:19.330 --> 00:58:26.599 - so uh so is it just you and her are there other people there was one other lady that i was unaware of 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:34.010 - but she told me later that she experienced the whole thing and um so when she's she says i said i don't 00:58:34.010 --> 00:58:41.279 - know and as soon as i yell i don't know i feel a force i don't even know what it was and it's entered 00:58:41.279 --> 00:58:47.550 - from like the bottom and it traveled up my body and it came out my mouth and i was like 00:58:48.386 --> 00:58:54.452 - just made this like cry. Wow. And my whole body started trembling. It was like, I don't want to say 00:58:54.452 --> 00:59:00.943 - electrocution because like that would hurt. But it was like a power surge, just like a shock to my senses. 00:59:00.943 --> 00:59:07.070 - And I'm like, my whole body's vibrating. And I sit up and I'm like, I don't know what just happened. 00:59:07.070 --> 00:59:13.318 - Please somebody explain to me what just happened because I have no idea what just happened. Right. And 00:59:13.318 --> 00:59:18.110 - so I get myself calm down because I'm just falling hysterically at this point. 00:59:18.434 --> 00:59:25.482 - don't even know why. So, um, she's, she's sitting there and I get myself calmed down and I'm like, I 00:59:25.482 --> 00:59:32.600 - don't know. I'm looking at her. I'm like, for explanation, like, I don't know what just happened. Can 00:59:32.600 --> 00:59:39.647 - you please help me figure out what just happened? And she's looking into my eyes and all of a sudden 00:59:39.647 --> 00:59:46.974 - she goes, Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm feeling everything you're feeling. I'm feeling it all. And now we're 00:59:46.974 --> 00:59:47.742 - both like, 00:59:51.202 --> 00:59:59.007 - confused. Yes, this is wonderful. That's the beauty of spirit. We're all confused. What is happening? 00:59:59.007 --> 01:00:06.736 - And I felt very otherworldly for like the whole rest of the day like I was here, but it wasn't quite 01:00:06.736 --> 01:00:15.230 - here. Now the lady that was in there that I was telling you I was unaware of because I obviously have a lot of 01:00:15.362 --> 01:00:21.541 - crap going on at the moment. She came up to me at breakfast because I finally gathered myself and went 01:00:21.541 --> 01:00:27.539 - to join everybody else. And oh, first the yoga leader, her name was Lily. She was like, do you want 01:00:27.539 --> 01:00:32.158 - me to leave? This is a very personal experience. And I said, absolutely not. 01:00:32.290 --> 01:00:38.727 - If you weren't here, I would think I just went crazy and have lost my mind. But now that I have a witness, 01:00:38.727 --> 01:00:44.803 - it's making me feel like this was a real experience. So the other lady who was there, she came up to 01:00:44.803 --> 01:00:50.879 - me at breakfast and she goes, I was in there for that whole thing. She said, I just want you to know 01:00:50.879 --> 01:00:53.406 - that when that happened, the whole energy 01:00:53.698 --> 01:01:00.192 - of this place shifted of the the building that we were in she's like I felt it as well just like maybe 01:01:00.192 --> 01:01:06.496 - not as intensely as Lily and I were but she was like the whole energy just shifted and then we went 01:01:06.496 --> 01:01:12.927 - back after breakfast and everybody was coming back and I hadn't told anybody really what had happened 01:01:12.927 --> 01:01:19.357 - and they're all coming back they're like it feels different in here like this it feels so strange you 01:01:19.357 --> 01:01:23.518 - think you feel strange yeah yeah sounds really really exciting so 01:01:23.746 --> 01:01:33.719 - I mean, it sounds to me like you were obviously initiated and transformed into something more than you 01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:43.983 - were before you came. I mean, I would love to be like, I came out a whole new different person. It wasn't 01:01:43.983 --> 01:01:53.278 - really like that. Life kind of just went back to normal. I did have a test. I feel like a test. 01:01:53.378 --> 01:01:59.468 - So as we're leaving Bali we get on the plane flying to Doha and I have this very intense dream. I was 01:01:59.468 --> 01:02:05.617 - so discombobulated after this dream and I was flying in a plane with my grandfather who was passed and 01:02:05.617 --> 01:02:11.767 - he was looking very worried at me. The plane was like shaking and I looked at him and I said I started 01:02:11.767 --> 01:02:14.334 - to get a little scared and then I was like 01:02:14.722 --> 01:02:21.166 - What am I afraid for? I'm not going to die till I'm 83. So there's no reason to be afraid. So the plane, 01:02:21.166 --> 01:02:27.364 - um, then I, I'm flying and I saw angels and I was like, Oh, angels are real. And then the plane took 01:02:27.364 --> 01:02:33.501 - a turn and there was Jesus and he had children. He was all surrounded by children. And he looked at 01:02:33.501 --> 01:02:39.700 - me specifically as I flew by and said, feed my children. And then I heard freedom and I woke up. Now 01:02:39.700 --> 01:02:43.198 - I was so discombobulated. Let me tell you what happened. 01:02:43.810 --> 01:02:51.253 - This led to a whole other journey. I left my passport and my ID on the plane. So as soon as I walk off 01:02:51.253 --> 01:02:58.480 - the plane in Doha, I'm like, oh no, I left it on the plane and I run back to get it. They won't let 01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:05.996 - me on there. They said they found it, go to gate A and you can pick it up. I'm like, okay. Only to find 01:03:05.996 --> 01:03:13.150 - out that from that point forward, I never saw it again. So now I'm stuck in Doha by myself, no ID. 01:03:13.346 --> 01:03:22.116 - no money, no nothing. Remember faith. My phone, except for my phone. I'm getting a little unnerved. 01:03:22.116 --> 01:03:31.500 - Let's put it like that. I'm trying to remain calm. I'm putting my practices. I was on a spiritual journey. 01:03:31.500 --> 01:03:35.710 - I'm trying to put my practices into place. Yes. 01:03:36.642 --> 01:03:43.712 - A military came and escorted me to an undisclosed location in the middle of Doha. That was a little 01:03:43.712 --> 01:03:51.136 - unnerving to find copies that I had to put in my luggage. So now they're contacting the embassy. I tried 01:03:51.136 --> 01:03:58.206 - to check into a hotel, but I have no ID and I have no money. So that kind of makes that impossible. 01:03:58.338 --> 01:04:04.822 - I can't make this stuff up, receipts for all of this. As I'm sitting there waiting to see if I can get 01:04:04.822 --> 01:04:11.431 - a hotel room, all of the fire alarms in the building start going off. And they're telling us to evacuate 01:04:11.431 --> 01:04:17.789 - the building. What a trip. And I said, I'm going to have to sit here and let it burn because I can't 01:04:17.789 --> 01:04:24.210 - leave this airport. If I leave, they'll never let me back in. I have no idea. I ain't got no proof of 01:04:24.210 --> 01:04:27.294 - who I am. What are you talking about? Leave. OK. 01:04:28.546 --> 01:04:34.374 - So we got through that, they figured out what the problem was. At this point, I'm starting to get a 01:04:34.374 --> 01:04:40.434 - little upset with things, you know, I'm like, are they even going to let me go home? Like, I don't even 01:04:40.434 --> 01:04:46.320 - know at this point. So I had went to the desk. And there was, as I'm as I'm thinking these thoughts, 01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:52.206 - there's a sign behind me. And it's like this one of those signs where the words are all going across 01:04:52.206 --> 01:04:53.022 - it like that. 01:04:53.474 --> 01:04:59.878 - And it was basically the gist of it was like, I don't plant, uh, no tree grows without my permission. 01:04:59.878 --> 01:05:06.156 - No flower is placed without me placing it there type of deal. And I'm like, okay, okay. So this guy 01:05:06.156 --> 01:05:12.560 - comes from nowhere. He sees me. This is the only time I started to like get really upset and I really 01:05:12.560 --> 01:05:18.838 - wanted to cry. I was starting to get kind of scared. Um, this guy comes out of nowhere and he says, 01:05:18.838 --> 01:05:20.094 - no, no, no, no, no. 01:05:20.514 --> 01:05:26.617 - everything happens for a reason. There is a reason for all of this. What do you need? I will help you. 01:05:26.617 --> 01:05:32.779 - Do you need food? I will send you to a place to get food. Do you need a shower? Do you need a bed? What 01:05:32.779 --> 01:05:38.704 - do you need? I will help you. And he helped me get, he pointed me in the direction to get all of my 01:05:38.704 --> 01:05:44.807 - basic needs met while I was there. Cause I was there for 28 hours in the airport. So I go back to find 01:05:44.807 --> 01:05:46.110 - the guy to thank him. 01:05:46.658 --> 01:05:53.699 - because he was a light of hope in the darkness, only to find he could not be found. I could not find 01:05:53.699 --> 01:06:00.670 - him anywhere to thank him. I love these kinds of stories. So the short of it, I ended up eventually 01:06:00.670 --> 01:06:07.989 - getting on the plane and coming home. But that was kind of like my adventure and my spiritual experience 01:06:07.989 --> 01:06:11.614 - that honestly is still affecting my life right now. 01:06:12.162 --> 01:06:21.192 - because I don't forget these things and the realness of it all, it just kind of changed the trajectory 01:06:21.192 --> 01:06:30.309 - of where I'm going, literally. It sounds so, so when I mentioned the, like after all of the experiences 01:06:30.309 --> 01:06:38.900 - in Bali and I said, well, it sounds like you were activated or whatever, right? I don't, I don't, 01:06:38.900 --> 01:06:40.478 - I mean, you know, 01:06:40.706 --> 01:06:47.342 - I imagine any person of any spiritual, you know, value or thought would say that's probably what happened. 01:06:47.342 --> 01:06:53.607 - But if you're saying you haven't really figured that out yet, I would just say that's probably still 01:06:53.607 --> 01:06:59.995 - like manifesting itself. I think, I believe so. Yeah. It's not just like, okay, you've experienced now 01:06:59.995 --> 01:07:06.259 - you're done. It's like, okay, and you've started. Now you're going to grow. Yes. Yes. That's exactly 01:07:06.259 --> 01:07:08.926 - the idea that I got from that because, uh, 01:07:09.250 --> 01:07:17.411 - I don't think, you know, the average persons have that level of experience when they go on vacation, 01:07:17.411 --> 01:07:25.896 - you know? It was a spiritual retreat. Well, yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. But yeah, that was that sounds 01:07:25.896 --> 01:07:32.926 - extremely wonderful. I'll say that. It was. Yeah, I love every second of it except for 01:07:33.218 --> 01:07:41.301 - you know, the Doha. I mean, I maybe could have lived without, but it's a great story now. Yeah. 01:07:41.301 --> 01:07:49.973 - And it's, it's validation of an acceptance of powers outside of you. You know what I mean? My takeaway 01:07:49.973 --> 01:07:57.214 - from that experience was no matter what situation you're in, you are, you have people 01:07:57.538 --> 01:08:04.420 - help you there help will be sent like you're not on your own even though i felt i mean how much more 01:08:04.420 --> 01:08:11.302 - alone could you feel in a foreign country with no id by yourself yes you know but still even in that 01:08:11.302 --> 01:08:18.320 - extreme situation i was not alone yeah and at the point where you were about to cry probably every man 01:08:18.320 --> 01:08:23.294 - that you know would probably have been at the same like i'm about to cry 01:08:24.642 --> 01:08:33.089 - in the military, when like soldiers come and say, come with us. And you're going through tunnels and 01:08:33.089 --> 01:08:41.451 - you're like, where am I going? They will not answer you. It's like, huh, okay. Oh no, not the human 01:08:41.451 --> 01:08:49.898 - trafficking story. It's like, oh, I'm about to be a sex slave. We got a million dollar prize. We got 01:08:49.898 --> 01:08:52.574 - a blonde American. Sorry world. 01:08:53.058 --> 01:08:59.973 - The times we live in, I'm just... Yeah, but anyway, wonderful story, wonderful story. And I know I've 01:08:59.973 --> 01:09:07.023 - kept you for a while and I don't want to keep you. I know you said you had your grandchildren, I think. 01:09:07.023 --> 01:09:14.005 - Oh, yeah. I, you know, I found other places for them to go today, so we're good. Oh, okay. Okay, fine. 01:09:14.005 --> 01:09:21.598 - That's wonderful. But... Well, is there anything else you wanted to share? Is there more? No, I think that's... 01:09:21.890 --> 01:09:28.769 - I mean, that's the gist of it. I mean, there's lots of other things, but I won't bore you guys with 01:09:28.769 --> 01:09:35.855 - that. Or maybe we'll do that on a later day of prophetic dreams and people who are about the past. And 01:09:35.855 --> 01:09:42.804 - they come and tell me. I am glad that you mentioned that. This will be one of our last thoughts. And 01:09:42.804 --> 01:09:49.958 - we'll be wrapping it up here soon. But I do remember you mentioning a dream about my mom. Is that true? 01:09:49.958 --> 01:09:51.678 - Yes, my dad had a dream. 01:09:51.938 --> 01:09:58.157 - just faintly remembered and i'm like oh yeah i did have a dream about your mom and and i feel like she 01:09:58.157 --> 01:10:04.497 - just kind of wanted to let you know like she's all right because you were in the dream and maybe i don't 01:10:04.497 --> 01:10:11.079 - know if the time i reached out to you if maybe you were struggling with it a little bit but she specifically 01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:17.539 - wanted you to know that she is okay and there was something else um she said there was uh i can't remember 01:10:17.539 --> 01:10:19.230 - offhand i'm trying to think 01:10:19.714 --> 01:10:26.675 - She was in my living room and she was telling you not to be disappointed about something. There was 01:10:26.675 --> 01:10:30.782 - something she did not want you to feel disappointed about. 01:10:31.138 --> 01:10:36.883 - Okay. And that, that fits more in this time than it did when you told me originally, because I didn't 01:10:36.883 --> 01:10:42.910 - quite understand then I did. And I almost didn't reach out to you because I'm like, okay, this is somebody 01:10:42.910 --> 01:10:48.711 - I don't really talk to on a regular basis. Look like message and be like, Hey, by the way, how did you 01:10:48.711 --> 01:10:54.344 - know about your mom? She wants you to know, don't be disappointed. Everything's okay. Right. Right. 01:10:54.344 --> 01:10:58.174 - Yeah. I, uh, I think I understand what all that means now. And, uh, 01:10:58.434 --> 01:11:07.652 - I thank you for happening to be that medium. You know what I mean? Oh, my pleasure. I have let the spirits 01:11:07.652 --> 01:11:16.439 - know. Please only come to me in my dream state. I'm not prepared for the wake state. I'm not prepared 01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:25.226 - for that. Yeah, that's important. I mean, like I said, I often pray for all of my, like I pray for my 01:11:25.226 --> 01:11:28.414 - spiritual insights to be heightened. 01:11:28.802 --> 01:11:35.792 - Right? And so I was talking to Aubrey about this because this is something real quick I'll share. And 01:11:35.792 --> 01:11:42.851 - I feel like it's starting to happen. Right? Like the consistency of attention towards it and my prayer 01:11:42.851 --> 01:11:49.772 - towards it. And it's almost like how you can feel somebody walk behind you. Right? You can feel that 01:11:49.772 --> 01:11:56.831 - presence. Yes. So we don't really know what we can call that presence that we feel. You know, we ain't 01:11:56.831 --> 01:11:58.270 - got no words. Right. 01:11:58.370 --> 01:12:06.532 - we can, you know, you can feel that you can feel when someone stares at you, right? Yes. But the presence 01:12:06.532 --> 01:12:14.772 - of someone walking behind you. So, so it's like that presence is being extended out further. And I imagine 01:12:14.772 --> 01:12:22.857 - that so, so it's almost like the feeling of whatever that presence is that lets you feel someone walking 01:12:22.857 --> 01:12:26.014 - behind you is extending further. And so, 01:12:26.178 --> 01:12:32.215 - just say maybe it's nine or 10 or 12 inches out from me. It feels like it's kind of dense there and 01:12:32.215 --> 01:12:38.373 - it dissipates as it gets a little further out. But I feel like the more I focus on it, give attention 01:12:38.373 --> 01:12:44.711 - to it and pray on it, that the energy that is close to me will extend out into this area that is further 01:12:44.711 --> 01:12:50.929 - as well. Like I, like I feel, you know what I'm saying? It's kind of hard to explain, but yeah. It is. 01:12:50.929 --> 01:12:54.974 - It is if we have an excuse. It's almost like I, like I can almost, 01:12:55.682 --> 01:13:02.422 - feel a few weeks ahead of me. Like I can almost, you know what I'm saying? Like getting the energy of, 01:13:02.422 --> 01:13:08.965 - oh yeah, something's about, you know, something's coming, something's about to, you know, yeah, so. 01:13:08.965 --> 01:13:15.574 - Honestly, I feel like all of us have that. It's just if you pay attention to it or acknowledge it or 01:13:15.574 --> 01:13:18.846 - not, or not dismiss it as, you know, oh, I'm just 01:13:19.138 --> 01:13:25.354 - be in this or be in that or whatever. Um, cause there have been times in my life where I could feel 01:13:25.354 --> 01:13:31.819 - things coming. I wouldn't know what it was and it wouldn't, it, and mine comes like, I can't sleep when 01:13:31.819 --> 01:13:38.283 - I get to the point where I'm like, I'm tossing and turning. I can't sleep, but there's really no reason 01:13:38.283 --> 01:13:44.748 - for me not to be able to sleep. Something's about to happen. Right. Right. Well, yeah. Uh, like I said, 01:13:44.748 --> 01:13:46.302 - this has been great. Um, 01:13:46.498 --> 01:13:52.754 - I don't want to shade any other of my guests, but you have been my best guests. I think this is the 01:13:52.754 --> 01:13:59.323 - best show that I've done. I'm really excited. Yeah, real talk. This is exciting. You gave me chill bumps 01:13:59.323 --> 01:14:05.704 - over and over. I mean, I can't beat that as a host. And I think, yeah, I'd love to have you again. We 01:14:05.704 --> 01:14:12.211 - can talk, like you said, more about your prophetic dreams and other spiritual experiences that you had. 01:14:12.211 --> 01:14:15.902 - And I think this is going to do wonders for our community. 01:14:16.066 --> 01:14:23.008 - I'm so thrilled to be a part of it. I really am and thank you so much for having me on. I've really 01:14:23.008 --> 01:14:29.950 - enjoyed it. Yeah, I did too. I think the people will and I definitely appreciate it and we'll do it 01:14:29.950 --> 01:14:36.962 - again soon, hopefully. To the people, I'm glad you are all here. I think this was one of my best and 01:14:36.962 --> 01:14:42.654 - I'm quite excited about it. I'm quite, you know, feeling kind of proud of myself. 01:14:43.042 --> 01:14:49.531 - Anyway, I like to say all roads lead to spirit. Thank you. Yes, all roads lead to spirit. And so that's 01:14:49.531 --> 01:14:55.896 - my little tagline. And one day I may even go ahead and copyright that. But that's where we headed to. 01:14:55.896 --> 01:15:02.136 - And I'm glad you all were here. And we're going to end our session here. Is there anything else you 01:15:02.136 --> 01:15:08.500 - want to share with the people before you get out of here? I just want to tell everybody thank you for 01:15:08.500 --> 01:15:11.870 - joining us. And I hope you had as much fun as we did. 01:15:12.290 --> 01:15:19.110 - Yeah, thank you. Thank you again, Tammy, and we'll see you guys in the future. All right, thank you. 01:15:19.110 --> 01:15:20.798 - All right, bye-bye. Bye.